general

[peak dirge]

of course Tuinity improved the performance

[worn ember]

Ok so we got the patches we wanted now e can ban leaf

[golden gust]

already made that joke

[wispy blade]

let's ban ded at the same time then

[golden gust]

2 slow ä

[worn ember]

Smh brits

[marble lark]

Ban everyone

[marble lark]

From what I learned last time saying that when cat is around is a death sentence

[golden gust]

We've already been talking about how to fix spigots getEntities() bs :L

[void geyser]

Because sometime they claim this faster, that faster. But it doesn't actually does. But guess im wrong

[marble lark]

What's that about?

[worn ember]

Nah. Every Brit hates being bri ish

[golden gust]

Spigot made getEntities() basically process chunk loads and wait for the entities to load if they've not loaded yet

Which creates much BS because now you're processing chunk loads in an area which was never really great for processing chunk loads

[worn ember]

Sounds like a good thing?

[marble lark]

Sounds like they rewrote a method from Mojang

I'm pretty sure I've seen getEntities in Mojang code before

(Way before Paperweight was ever in use)

[worn ember]

Well duh

[golden gust]

and now if you have plugins which always calls getEntities on a chunk load, it's gonna stack overflow, but, basically, especially on paper where chunk loads are fast, even faster now that tooonity is there, that's gonna blow up

Theres already an issue on the paper tracker cos of that shit

[marble lark]

Tooonity

Lmao

[worn ember]

Don't worry cat. 1.18 chunk loading will fix that

[golden gust]

leafs name for a project is as cancerous as the man himself

[marble lark]

I sense sarcasm

Or are you for real cause I'd be really happy

[worn ember]

The joke is that chunk loading is slow af on 18

[marble lark]

Fuck

[quasi valley]

1.18 doesn’t even exist yet

[marble lark]

The hell did they do now

[quasi valley]

Not even snapshots

It’s literally just world gen

[worn ember]

Ur world gen

[marble lark]

Was talkin about the experimental snapshots

[void void]

Its intentional, duh

[marble lark]

Or whatever they're called

[void void]

Builds suspense

[worn ember]

Ur a fat chunk kneny

[wispy blade]

that isnt our kneny

[quasi valley]

Ur a bunch of ghasts

[marble lark]

Lmao

[worn ember]

[marble lark]

Oh god the recursion

I didn't actually realize what that meant until I reread it

[wispy blade]

i've only gotten a single stackoverflowerror so far B)

[marble lark]

How would getEntities even work if they depend on chunk loads though

I'm assuming this is a part of the API that's meant to be called anywhere

Not just when a chunk loads

[worn ember]

Then ur doing it wrong

They never come alone

[wispy blade]

i was doing it wrong

[marble lark]

Stackoverflows are not too bad

Wait till your interpreter segfaults

[worn ember]

Who needs the heap when you got infinite stack

[marble lark]

Aye

Was sort of a poke at people who want to maximize performance at everything

Precompile the entire server lmao

[olive marlin]

I loved when I was writing C++ for Uni and the compiler crashed with "Internal compiler error - please report to...". It was my ticket to being allowed to show my projects on personal laptop instead of Uni pc.

[golden gust]

no

[worn ember]

Expecting cat to do work cx

[golden gust]

I feel like shit and have food on the way at some point

[worn ember]

Towards you i hope

And not out of you

[golden gust]

I mean, am hoping the latter too

[olive marlin]

Cat has food on the way out of him, on the way to your rug.

[worn ember]

Nooo

Not the precious rug

[ionic island]

its all up to rng

pray to rng gods

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-09-02_14-35-50.png

Something... isn't right here.

[worn ember]

If up is negative does that mean it's down?

[ionic island]

😦

[ashen cliff]

I have no idea, but I'm scared.

[worn ember]

Unless it's an overflow which in that case is even more impressive

[ashen cliff]

3 days of uptime... Probably a bit flip somewhere.

[gusty lance]

Yeah, then it would be more than 2,1 tbits

[twin lagoon]

that's uh, not ubuntu server

[golden gust]

bits

[ashen cliff]

Don't worry, the number number is going down.

[gusty lance]

gud

[void void]

Down or up?

[ashen cliff]

Or up depending on how you look at it.

Value is getting closer to zero.

[golden gust]

the directions of the arrows matter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl12dXYcUTo

[twin lagoon]

no that's the logo of ubuntu mate

a community spin-off of ubuntu

you can install quite a lot of things on ubuntu server

[golden gust]

mate is a desktop environment

ubuntu mate is a distro based on ubuntu which ships with the mate desktop environment

[twin lagoon]

it's not the desktop environment for ubuntu server though

it doesn't stand for ubuntu server either

[ashen cliff]

Daily reminder to use Debian.

[limber knot]

say no to debian

[twin lagoon]

debian superiority

make sure to use debian mate though, it's the desktop software for debian server

[mental meadow]

I use Arch btw

[golden gust]

btw

I use arch

reminds me, I've not booted arch on my laptop in a while

[marble lark]

was this back in the days before gcc

iirc pcc was kind of the C reference implementation before gcc took over

[ivory bronze]

I use Manjaro

But Arch is nice

[golden gust]

Uni's often do a bad job of keeping stuff updated and shit

for like, half of the year, android studio wouldn't even run on our unis machines as they didn't install it fully, and basically, to install it, it needed to dump files to a folder we didn't have access to

[olive marlin]

Nah, it was gcc internal error iirc. Was like 5 years ago?

[marble lark]

oh

[marble lark]

god android

I failed a project for android development cause the proposal was overambitious

[ashen cliff]

Don't remember asking.

DON'T REMEMBER ASKING.

[marble lark]

anyone here know a little about paperweight cause I can't seem to find the tasks clonePaperRepo and getPaperUpstreamData anywhere for some reason

$ ./gradlew applyPatches --info
Settings evaluated using settings file 'D:\WitherCraftSources\Mojang Mappings\paUsing local directory build cache for the root build (location = C:\Users\Josep\Projects loaded. Root project using build file 'D:\WitherCraftSources\Mojang Mappings\paperweight-examples\build.gradle.kts'.
Included projects: [root project 'ForkTest', project ':ForkTest-API', project ':ForkTest-Server']

> Configure project :

> Configure project :ForkTest-Server

> Task :clonePaperRepo
:clonePaperRepo (Thread[Execution worker for ':' Thread 6,5,main]) completed. Took 17.96 secs.
:getPaperUpstreamData (Thread[Execution worker for ':' Thread 6,5,main]) started.

> Task :getPaperUpstreamData

was just messing around but this caught my attention

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-09-02_15-07-46.png

[wispy blade]

@ashen cliff bro! rate my pixelart!

飛

[ashen cliff]

Very good bro!

Now fix the lines.

[wispy blade]

that's just blockbench wireframe bro!

[ashen cliff]

Fix it.

[wispy blade]

too lazy to fix blockbench.

[twin lagoon]

https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-epyc-journey-continues-to-milan-in-cloudflares-11th-generation-edge-server/

[ashen cliff]

AyyMD.

Didn't even go for semi-custom chips.

Despite not using most of the PCIe.

[twin lagoon]

they probably wouldn't make a blog if it's custom chips

[ashen cliff]

Maybe not in the blog post.

But why pay for something you don't use?

Also PCIe express raisers... why?

You already designed a motherboard... that you don't use.

Interesting to see tho, that they planned for 8 PCIe slimeline connectors, but only used 2.

I see possibly 120 routed PCIe lanes, I assume the other 8 are for the integrated Ethernet.

Anyway. 🛌

[golden gust]

custom chips require custom pricing

It's often much cheaper to just take off the existing line rather than tryna get your own

[peak dirge]

Actually, I think they would. But I don't think the case is there for custom chips for them. It's a lot harder to scale with custom hardware versus off-the-shelf components. Just about the only transition they're considering is to an Arm-based architecture and I don't see Cloudflare hiring people to spend what could be hundreds of millions of dollars designing custom chips.

[golden gust]

CF is generally good at blogging stuff just cos it gets them clicks and stuff

[peak dirge]

Oh, wait:

And so, having left the SRE team last year, I joined the recently formed hardware engineering team, a team that simply didn’t exist in 2014.
They do have a hardware engineering team now. I guess that doesn't preclude them making custom chips, but still.

[golden gust]

But, I mean, as said, it's costly, they'd need to make some significant savings vs off the shelf parts in order for it to be cost effective

getting chips made is not cheap, but, they do have the advantage in terms of their order sizes, etc, makes it easier to offload cost per chip when you're ordering thousands of them

[peak dirge]

Well, I would say that the custom parts would have to have some big advantage to them, likely in the performance-per-watt department

[golden gust]

Well, yea, power savings would be big if they went with arm likely to the level that it would save them some dosh

for custom AMD chips, best they could do is probs get a binning agreement or something, if there are dead PCI lanes, we don't need them, so we'll still take them, but, ofc, that creates its own set of complexities depending on how those are actually exposed, not all too familiar there

imagine having to make custom mobos just to be able to take advantage of different PCI lanes missing

[ashen cliff]

Probably don't have to. EPYC is quite flexible with those.

[golden gust]

more about how it reflects in pinout

[ashen cliff]

They already have 8 slimline connectors, so that's 64 possible lanes to use and from the looks of it, they just need two.

Should be fine.

Tho, you could see AMD giving special chips, like PCIe area 1 is dead to Tencent, PCIe area 2 is dead to CF or someone else.

[minor badge]

?warn @royal heron "gay" is not a negative word; let's not use it like one.

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Warned legitbox#0001 ("gay" is not a negative word; let's not use it like one.) [1 total infraction] -- Proximyst#6900.

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge pog ?

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

BEST mari

[marble lark]

oh god I just realized

your profile pic

my eyes

they hurt

[peak dirge]

I mean, I easily expect Cloudflare to adopt a, say, 96-core Arm server in the coming years.

[warm anchor]

?

[marble lark]

they're just memeing i think

[peak dirge]

Especially if said server delivered x86-equivalent performance in a much lower power package.

I think for that we'll have to wait for the Siryn microarchitecture that Ampere plans to release in 2022(?)

[ashen cliff]

INB4 they make their own RISC-V chips.

[peak dirge]

Then there's the Hacker News comment:

This is "cheap commodity hardware"? Does this guy know what that term means or is it just fashionable thanks to Google c. 1998?

For the price of any single component in this "cheap commodity" build, one can rent on the order of 10 actually-cheap-commodity servers for a year, bandwidth and electricity included.

Also - they're paying thousands of dollars per box and they're worried about 6 W power consumption? Something must be wrong with the economics at those DCs... or they're being ripped off for carbon-offset credits or something.

[marble lark]

makes me wonder when manufacturers are gonna integrate neuromorphic chips into CPUs for the smart user assistants

lmao

[ashen cliff]

AVX512 all over again.

[marble lark]

and then all our computers just fucking skynet into sentience

lmao

to be honest its odd that so few have bothered with hardware neural networks

those definitely use less power than software if made properly

[ashen cliff]

Not how it works, it's just an ASIC. One trick pony that sits there, to be used once per year, while always in standby sipping power.

[marble lark]

you make a good point there

[twin lagoon]

KRUSIC!

BRO!

[ashen cliff]

BRO!

Where is IDRIZ BRO?

[twin lagoon]

[wispy blade]

Idriz please come back :(

[ashen cliff]

They changed the ARGETA recipe and now I need to find a new one.

[worn ember]

the butter?

[wispy blade]

MAN

not even all the logic has been implemented and it's already 20kB

[worn ember]

optimize it

[wispy blade]

literally all it does atm

[worn ember]

thats pretty cool

[short yarrow]

😮 nice1

[worn ember]

rtp is 6MB

[wispy blade]

yes but are you shading in stuff?

[ashen cliff]

Bro. Just include full libs.

[quick pasture]

shade in paper-api while ur at it

[ashen cliff]

The whole jar.

[worn ember]

only like 540 libs bro

[quick pasture]

All of paperweight’s generated stuff

[worn ember]

my plugin is made to run on embedded systems

so i just shaded the whole OS

[quick pasture]

very nice

[lavish compass]

Is there a way to retrieve if the version is receiving updates using paper api?

[worn ember]

wat

[mossy vessel]

Ye

Can always do sth simple like checking if the version or change set message summary differs from what you have

[short yarrow]

what's a change set message summary o.o?

[lavish compass]

Like, does the API not return something like this?

[mossy vessel]

bad wording; api takes a change ednpoint you can return the commit, summary or message from

No, the API does not return screenshots.

[lavish compass]

Not screenshots, I meant actively developed version

I'm using this in a CI, comparing changes with locally cached ones wouldnt be efficient

[mossy vessel]

no, this is purely visual, afaik there's something like project response you can get the appropriate project from

[worn ember]

it returns json and based on those you address the right endpoints to get what you want

.api

[limber knot]

https://minidigger.github.io/paper-api-diff/changes.html

[worn ember]

smh not that one

[lavish compass]

I'm looking at the OpenAPI spec, doesn't seem to return anything else than this

[mossy vessel]

whatcha else would you want

If the version doesn't match what you want, toss it

There's no response that exactly returns one project string and one version that matches what you are looking for, gonna apply some simple filter

[lavish compass]

No that's not what I meant or want, my goal is to automatically build "actively developed" paper versions as docker images, instead of building every versions in existence

[twin lagoon]

@lavish compass

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon

[worn ember]

the only "active" one is the latest or the version before latest if its new

you can check the last builds every so often

but other than that theres no way of knowing

[lavish compass]

yeah that's what I wanted to know, thanks

[worn ember]

i think the versions arent in the api endpoint if they arent actively developed for

[lavish compass]

22-32 minutes CI to build all Paper, Airplane, and Purpur images

[lavish compass]

they are

[worn ember]

so if 1.18 comes out it wont be on the endpoint until there is a build i think

[lavish compass]

Well, 1.8 is still in the endpoint and it's legacy

so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worn ember]

well yeah, i mean the future releases

so you can just get the last version and the last build of those and you'll always be on the "last developed version"

[mossy vessel]

You can use the API for all versions, just take a piss on what is not 1.17.1

[fallen wren]

What is a good dedicated hosting for us/canada that isn't too expensive? Currently using so you start GAME 2, https://www.soyoustart.com/us/game-servers/ but keep running out of hard drive space.

[twin lagoon]

you're not getting much better than soyoustart at that price range

[lavish compass]

SYS uses old hardware right?

[twin lagoon]

it's old OVH hardware yes

[fallen wren]

I need more storage

What is the next best

[twin lagoon]

OVH lol

[lavish compass]

GAME-2 at SBG2

pain™️

[worn ember]

lol @ that android studio logo

[lavish compass]

the new IJ ultimate logo looks very weird

[worn ember]

i like it

[lavish compass]

it looks like someone applied intense contrast filter to it

[worn ember]

just some gloom

[lavish compass]

I feel like IJ is getting more buggy by each update

[untold copper]

day #86of trying to get abs (yesterday): no exercise cos i was very tired and in pain lmao
day #87 of trying to get abs (today): did 50 minutes of upper body strength and conditioning and threw in my own set of crunches cos it didn't include working abs so yeah... oh also my arms are dying bcuz i did too many push ups and planks

[worn ember]

it is for sure

[vernal moth]

Free beer at the office? Suddenly the office is packed 😂

[mossy vessel]

noice

[limpid comet]

Go ahead and ping me whenever you want, I don't really care

The code for input listening is kinda scuffed so I'm not surprised there's some glitch with it

[worn ember]

as it should be

[untold copper]

frickin- germans

[void void]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qrUb7a821c

[limber knot]

so, uh, will the usernames stay the same when moving to a microsoft account or will that use the Microsoft gamertag in Minecraft too?

[void void]

You keep your "old" name

[limber knot]

they should really put that onto the migration page tbh lol this is pretty worrying: https://i.moep.tv/gn1aYHrH.png

[void void]

yeah the page is a bit misleading

[olive marlin]

@limpid comet hi

[limpid comet]

Hi prof

How's your vacation

[olive marlin]

It starts next Monday.

[limpid comet]

Oh, close enough

[olive marlin]

I've been sick for 2 days and got worried I won't go, but it's getting better.

[limpid comet]

Oh no

I hope you get better prof

[olive marlin]

Thanks.

[wispy blade]

hi bleul

[limpid comet]

Hi

[limber knot]

god, why tf doesn't even the Minecraft Launcher support the discriminator in Xbox Live tags properly?!? they added support for that years AFTER that became a thing -.-

[worn ember]

Cuz that would be too ez

[merry talon]

discrimination is bad

[foggy veldt]

Lol yea the first thing I tried to do after migrating my account was change my gamer tag cause it looks ugly in the launcher, then I saw it was $9.99 and decided I am fine with seeing myoldusername1234 everytime I launch mc

[solid sapphire]

Uhh

Guys I made a bitmoji and it's worriyi g

Just look

[foggy veldt]

bitworm

[solid sapphire]

But that's a very accurate model of Mai hair lol

Luckily it doesn't work with my gboard yet

what the fuc i just want to fucin access gothub

[void void]

are they injecting stuff into your http requests?

[magic river]

Why are you still making HTTP requests?

1. HTTPS Everywhere extension
2. Firefox

[solid sapphire]

https everywhere is enabled

[brave radish]

or just latest Firefox

[solid sapphire]

firefox but i have too much sh*t stored in chrome

[wispy blade]

can migrate that 🧠

[solid sapphire]

like my password to 192.168.1.1

[solid sapphire]

i dont have one.

[void void]

firefox has a built in migrator thing

[green edge]

I'm facing the current situation, and are looking into suggestions on how I can deal with this.

- PayPal has limited my company paypal account for allegedly not respecting their Acceptable Use Policy
- Discussing and escalating to PayPal Senior Department hasn't lead to a resolution. This coupled with the fact that they now even disabled my capacity to refund users shows their bad will to solve this for me

Currently, I have a premium resource i sell on Spigot. The source-code for it is already public and i give a free license for personal use. What do you believe about switching the process so the plugin is free of charge and provided in a precompiled form, but for commercial use they need to purchase a premium version via stripe.

Sorry if i'm deviating a bit from the current HTTP security topic.

[magic river]

I think 3 people will pay

[solid sapphire]

Saved Passwords: (macOS and Windows only) Your usernames and passwords that Chrome remembered. yeah nope

[mossy vessel]

This is not the appropriate place for such legal advice

[waxen panther]

just make your plugin really hard to use and then sell premium support

✅

[void void]

broccolai best business strategy planner

[waxen panther]

it works well enough for nmf

[twin lagoon]

[mossy vessel]

So said my lawyer too :p

[waxen panther]

@z750

[left swift]

@waxen panther

[void void]

In all seriousness, I don't think many people will end up paying for being allowed to commercially use your plugin

Most will just ignore that requirement, even if they legally would have to

[twin lagoon]

yeah no one will voluntarily pay for your plugin

[warm anchor]

Paypal can suck my ball. Change my mind

[mossy vessel]

Yes brocc, I like getting legal advice from discord.

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor more catgirl rie when

[waxen panther]

it is the best place to

everyone is an expert

[mossy vessel]

Z's truly the best

[magic river]

https://github.com/toramanlis/chrome2firefox

[solid sapphire]

AHH

[waxen panther]

AHHHH

[void void]

no excuses now

[mossy vessel]

Do people actually store their password in their browser?

[nova plume]

yea i do

[void void]

apparently

[gusty lance]

Yes

[solid sapphire]

yes

[mossy vessel]

I use 3 different browsers, syncing that must be ass

[solid sapphire]

only to 192.168.1.1 tho

[marble lark]

yeah\

[nova plume]

i only use edge

[marble lark]

convenience kills lmao

[nova plume]

true

[mossy vessel]

smh my head

[void void]

Do you guys not have different devices that you also need that password on?

like phones

[wispy blade]

use same browser on phone

[void void]

or another machine

[twin lagoon]

yes

[magic river]

bitwarden ftw

[twin lagoon]

use google's password manager in chrome

or use bitwarden

[mossy vessel]

Yeah, I use bitwarden

[waxen panther]

waiting for apple passwords on chrome 😔

2028

[mossy vessel]

Work is all Apple so Safari rules, at home I use Vivaldi and everywhere else chrome

[magic river]

I wonder if installing bitwarden on Chrome would store all the passwords

Because switching to using bitwarden to store your passwords is probably a good idea regardless of what browser you're using

[solid sapphire]

now do i trust this?

no.

i dont.

[untold copper]

isn't there an in built option thingy to do exactly this

[mossy vessel]

Bitwarden allows you to import passwords

From chrome or so e.g

[magic river]

The built in option apparently doesn't work on Linux

[warm anchor]

That's fall/halloween banner

[marble lark]

nice typing sounds lmao

[untold copper]

I see

[warm anchor]

Snoopa why are you using FF in 2021

[magic river]

It only imports bookmarks and cookies, not logins

[untold copper]

Cos i like the design

[lament patio]

u wot

Why not

[warm anchor]

it was a good project now it sucks

[untold copper]

firefox hab pretty design

[nova plume]

edge ftw

[void void]

I like the devtools in FF dev edition

[marble lark]

browser is browser

[untold copper]

pin this.

[lament patio]

Same
Except Firefox with themes is much prettier

[warm anchor]

browser is browser until you use a website that breaks on certain browser

[foggy veldt]

Is the first one like who wants to be a millionaire

[nova plume]

thats like saying minecraft is the same as doom eternal, after all theyre both games

[untold copper]

yeeee

firefox with themes is chad

askldfgahslfdjkghlkjg

epic.

[wide chasm]

As long as I don't have to use Edge, I'm good

[untold copper]

lma-

[lament patio]

And multi-account containers

[foggy veldt]

Edge is great

[nova plume]

yes it is

[untold copper]

yeah i dont use those but they're cool

[solid sapphire]

nope

[foggy veldt]

A lot of people still think of classic edge when they hear edge but the new chromium rewrite is like google chrome minus google

[untold copper]

new edge is ok-ish

[waxen panther]

so chromium ?

[nova plume]

its chromium with some good additions, like vertical tabs

[magic river]

Edge is a better Chrome than Chrome

[waxen panther]

BLOAT

😎

[magic river]

If you have to use Chrome you should use Edge

[foggy veldt]

No, google chrome minus google plus Microsoft

[wide chasm]

New Edge, old Edge, whatever, but the fact that MS forcefully installed it on my device, then showed an uncloseable window to set it up on Windows startup and forcefully pinned it on the taskbar, not only on Windows 10, but also on Windows 7 (even though it wouldn't receive any kind of updates anymore) is enough reason not to use it.

[void void]

sounds complicated, i'll just stick to firefox

[marble lark]

uhh

hi Mrs Herobrine?

lmao

[magic river]

When Edge first launched I liked it too but they just didn't move fast enough, they were behind the others on compatibility and were moving slower

[foggy veldt]

I mean... doesn’t apple do this with safari, and lots of Linux distros do this with firefox

[wide chasm]

Don't use those, so can't say, but it's fucking idiotic

[lament patio]

Linux distros don't make it hard to remove things you don't want

[waxen panther]

none of them do shit like this though :P

showed an uncloseable window to set it up on Windows startup

[warm anchor]

yeah the wording is designed in a way the common folks would think it is an essential feature of the OS

[gusty lance]

Safari is pre-installed on Apple devices but they don’t have any annoying pop ups and you can change your Browser easily in the settings app

[waxen panther]

have you seen the windows 11 ui for changing default browser / other defaults?

its so stupid

[warm anchor]

done on purpose clearly

[foggy veldt]

Oh I haven’t tried windows 11 yet

[wide chasm]

I get that you have a browser pre-installed on your pc and that it's pinned to your taskbar, all fine. But that uncloseable setup is stupid - especially since I was already using my Windows 10 device perfectly fine before. Not to mention that it was forced onto my Windows 7 device that already had IE installed as the default.

[foggy veldt]

I call it Microsoft ultrabook os

[waxen panther]

they make you change every extensions default application now

fucking

[void void]

fun fact: if another application were to do this, it would probably be classified as malware/pup

[waxen panther]

onedrives default installation behaves like most malware

[warm anchor]

razer synapse has enters the chat

[wide chasm]

There was an article I read where the writer's... wife or someone else, actually thought the pc had malware.

[void void]

understandable

[foggy veldt]

Yea the uncloseable setup is sketch, guess I just never noticed it because I have never not wanted to use edge

[wide chasm]

Yeah, if you were already using Edge before, it wouldn't be that much different, but if you were not - or you were still on Windows 7/8, congrats you now got Edge.

[plucky sparrow]

this is ugly

[marble lark]

rip

[warm anchor]

heeeeey snoopa may be ugly but he's still young! many thing can change!

[plucky sparrow]

oh I meant firefox but i can agree with you on that too

[untold copper]

ur ugly

[warm anchor]

[plucky sparrow]

no u

[twin lagoon]

[untold copper]

no u

[void void]

I have everything on the homepage disabled except for the search bar lol

[plucky sparrow]

no u

[plucky sparrow]

i have those recommendation thingies on but i've never used them

it looks better with them

[untold copper]

no u

[untold copper]

so did i but then i decided to keep it

[plucky sparrow]

@wispy blade u stink

[wispy blade]

@plucky sparrow u stink

[tropic flame]

they really made a "Show more options" option because Refresh and Paste are still missing

[wispy blade]

does it matter? it isn't finished yet

[tropic flame]

let's see if it's something to stay or not

it's not 100% unreasonable that MS will keep it like that lol

[void void]

the binblows 11 experience

scheduled release date was in three days right?

[tropic flame]

tomfoolery side, i kinda prefer the old context menu design more, the new one looks too big

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-09-02_20-13-19.png

It got worse.

[tropic flame]

so, does the download speed add to the upload one since it's negative?

[gusty lance]

But they already have a release date

October 5

[void void]

I thought it was september 5th

[worn crest]

wait what superb is also a german word

that this word exists is a wonder but thats blowing my mind

[void void]

my bad, looks like it's octoober

[golden gust]

octoober boober

[plucky sparrow]

Why does October exist

I forget about October 99% of the times

[ancient bolt]

I can't wait for october

should be when the new macbook and pixel 6 comes out

[golden gust]

october?

[ancient bolt]

yeah?

[golden gust]

it exists for halloween

[ancient bolt]

wtf is hallow's eve

[plucky sparrow]

Won’t the MacBooks be announced in September?

[golden gust]

and pumpkin spice latté

[ancient bolt]

idk. if so then even better

[plucky sparrow]

Halloween is poo

[ancient bolt]

låttë

[golden gust]

PUMPKIN SPICE BRO

[plucky sparrow]

Never tried it out

[ancient bolt]

i want to try starbuck's new apple crisp latte

[plucky sparrow]

Sounds like Starbucks

[ancient bolt]

might try it today

[golden gust]

I actually do not remember the last time I went to starbucks

[plucky sparrow]

I do

I’ve only went once and never again

[ancient bolt]

ive gone so many times

[olive marlin]

Can't wait for spam of "Typo fix" PRs for Hacktoberfest?

[ancient bolt]

i prefer local shops

but starbucks is convenient

[golden gust]

some of their specials sound interesting but am not really a huge fan of "fancy" coffee

Think most lush I generally gona to is like caffe nero or whatever

[void void]

or the prs adding "an amazing project" to the readme

[ancient bolt]

I really can't wait for the hate and shitposts paper will get when we ban typo-PRs for the month of october

[plucky sparrow]

Actually I think October is good

November is worse

[golden gust]

twas always fun

[ancient bolt]

because we're "trying to get ourselves tshirts" or whatever the fuck it is people invent as a reason

[plucky sparrow]

The only good thing in November is Black Friday

[olive marlin]

Just PR to your own repo, don't spam legit projects.

[ancient bolt]

I have never once participated in hacktoberfest

[olive marlin]

I'm not sure what will be the rule changes this year.

[ancient bolt]

and likely never will

I just don't understand the appeal

[olive marlin]

Since they tried to combat it after last year backlash.

The shirt is nice. And I had PRs to do anyway.

I wouldn't go contribute just to get the shirt, but I'd accept free shirt for my contributions.

[void void]

^

pretty sure they're working on preventing spam this year

so we don't get these types of prs https://github.com/NemProject/nem-website/pull/59/files

[worn ember]

epic gamer moment

[formal turret]

lmao

[void void]

https://github.com/NemProject/nem-website/pulls

this repo has a lot of those prs

[magic nebula]

lmao

[formal turret]

all october 1st too

[ancient bolt]

I think allowing repo owners to tag PRs with a hacktoberfest tag, and the PR only counts with that tag, would be a good solution

people would be able to spam their own repos all they want

[formal turret]

oh no evermind some one day before too

[ancient bolt]

but there would be no incentive to spam a public repo

[void void]

i think after october the 4th they went into opt-in only

but all the spam already happened

[ancient bolt]

like I don't want it to be either turn it on or off for the whole repo, would like those who open good PRs on paper to get credit for them

[worn ember]

i find the whole hacktober thing a bit cringe tbh

[ancient bolt]

so it would have to be a pre-PR thing

[formal turret]

same

[limber knot]

hacktober is indeed cringe

[olive marlin]

Yeah, they did it so that you either opt it for whole repo and can exclude PRs, or approve individual PRs.

[golden gust]

I mean, it's a nice lil thing to encourage people to contrib

[ancient bolt]

i like the idea of excluding PRs

[worn ember]

i'm pospone my pr till october so i can get a tshirt

[golden gust]

he says while wearing a hacktoberfest tshirt

[ancient bolt]

that way we only have to bother with it on the shitty PRs

[golden gust]

But, I mean, it just encourages a lot of people to go stupid with it

[ancient bolt]

meanwhile our PR backlog is insane

[void void]

I think you can exclude them by adding the "spam" tag

[worn ember]

If you submit your pr in june it might get reviewed in october

[olive marlin]

Yeah. You could mark it with "invalid" label or whatever and then it's excluded.

[ancient bolt]

i suddenly have motivation to work on paperweight again

[olive marlin]

Or might have been spam, yeah.

[ancient bolt]

but I have to work on work stuff

cause like, I gotta get paid

I always get motivated to work on paper stuff when I should be working on work stuff instead

[worn ember]

just live off of exposure bro

[ancient bolt]

I live off of radiation exposure

[worn ember]

java does indeed cause cancer

[olive marlin]

I was sick for 2 days, and today is the best work day in weeks, and I did 11hours so far.

[worn ember]

[golden gust]

aids? aids.

[worn ember]

i give up after like 3 hours

[native wolf]

NemProject blocked them lmaoo

[ancient bolt]

I'm really unhappy with the current state of paperweight, esp in terms of fork support

I feel like it's really bad right now

[worn ember]

i see people going bonkers in paper-dev over it every day lol

[olive marlin]

Hoping that after vacation I'll have more motivation to do other stuff. And wanna tackle cleaning up Paper issues.

[native wolf]

I agree tbh, it's also slow as hell

[ancient bolt]

how so?

[ancient bolt]

that will never change

[worn ember]

people not knowing how to use it

[golden gust]

I mean, some of it is the typical moronity over forks

[ancient bolt]

well, until we hard-fork

[worn ember]

and how to get it working i suppose

idk any of the stuff so i cant give you details

[ancient bolt]

well that's not what I'm referring to

[golden gust]

I good chunk of the issues people see daily can be fixed with a documentation run

[ancient bolt]

like, even when used correctly it doesn't fully support all features for forks and is more fragile

[golden gust]

but, I mean, theres always gonna be dumb

[worn ember]

ah like that

[formal turret]

ya i've had to add things to the build.gradle a few ttimes to make it work again

[native wolf]

A good amount of people didn't know how to use the old script based system too

[worn ember]

just make me do the test run, if i can get it to work, everyone can get it to work

[golden gust]

DED

You'd be surprised

Theres always gonna be "the latest yatopia" people around

[worn ember]

i'm kinda glad i wrote the readme for hangar cuz i keep having to go through it again xD

[wide chasm]

Just because you are in the bottom 10% Dark, doesn't mean there aren't others in there /s

[formal turret]

😦

[worn ember]

well hey, at least it'd deal with the other 90%

[ancient bolt]

I mean I will not apologize for taking a break, but I do wish it was better

all of the areas where it's not great are workarounds caused by limitations in gradle's model though

[worn ember]

well yeah ofc, if you were getting paid for it might be different but ur not so people really cant give you shit for it

[ancient bolt]

so there's not a ton of great solutions there

[golden gust]

I was thinking

[ancient bolt]

people give shit for it all the time though

[golden gust]

it being based around gradle is one of the nice things but also one of the worse things

[worn ember]

yeah but they got no leg to stand on, people are stupid

[ancient bolt]

there is no other way it could be done reasonably

there are like 2 other options

[golden gust]

Yea, that's part of the horrors

[ancient bolt]

either build PaperTools from scratch like spigot

[golden gust]

more .sh files? more .sh files.

runs

[ancient bolt]

or build a giant maven plugin which has to reimplement 90% of gradle's features in order to reach parity

[golden gust]

I mean, theres always gonna be huge ass caveats

[ancient bolt]

Gradle is great and the shit we can do with it is fucking amazing

[golden gust]

I mean, I doubt that theres nothing that we're having issues with gradle specifically in which maven will really deal with all that better

[ancient bolt]

so I will not complain about that, nor will entertain the idea that gradle is a bad choice or anything like that (anyone who hates gradle can fuck off)

[golden gust]

only real "not gradle" solution I'd generally see is magical fucking scripts, which, fuck that for a game of soldiers

[ancient bolt]

Challenges are challenges though, and paperweight is a real challenge

paperweight can be significantly improved though

[worn ember]

i think gradle is great but simple minds like me stick to what they know

[ancient bolt]

I wasn't expecting it to be released for another 5 to infinity years

[formal turret]

i mean if you don't do anything complex with gradle it's just as simple as maven imo

[ancient bolt]

simpler

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, it's push out was rushed and am pretty proud of what was done in the short amount of time to get it actually doing as much as it did

[ancient bolt]

by a large margin

[golden gust]

Feel free to claim headpats from me if we ever meet IRL and you want them

[worn ember]

its whatever for me, mcdev does it all for me anyway

[ancient bolt]

don't you ever touch me with your shit-covered paws

[golden gust]

😄

[ancient bolt]

anyways I don't want headpats I want millions of dollars

is that too much to ask?

[wide chasm]

checks wallet
Yes, actually, it is

[golden gust]

If I haad a million doollars...

[twin lagoon]

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8zdNe_l3M8

Tell me a better band name?

[wispy blade]

Giraffes? Giraffes!

[ancient bolt]

not one of them is a lady

let alone bare or naked

false advertising

[golden gust]

I mean, based on the first point, I feel that the 2nd point is a plus

(Those peeps did the big bang theory theme tune)

[plucky sparrow]

No bare naked boys either? 😔

[golden gust]

probs a choir band

[urban depot]

why is minecraft still alive

please can someone explain

because why

[worn ember]

why are you

[urban depot]

hmhmmm what's life

[twin lagoon]

people still enjoy it™️

[urban depot]

yeah but how many people

[twin lagoon]

millions

[worn ember]

more than 5

[urban depot]

where are the stats going

[wispy blade]

bstats.org

[twin lagoon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRrssIjJSi-U2RMY3JdU-LJUYrWKOW9JMXUNeM-WzNe8_SXpkIQstw5QwKQbaeLY-RPvwcwUuGhLYnz/pubhtml

and that's excluding bedrock

[urban depot]

😮 ok

[void void]

is the item_sold_minecraft api stats endpoint still public?

[wide chasm]

Last total sales reported at 238 million

Now I realise just how small Java Edition is

[foggy veldt]

I was watching Minecraft dungeons gameplay the other day, it actually looks kind of fun

[worn ember]

meh

doesnt look very replayable

[marble lark]

it's not cause it's small tbh it's just cause Java Edition is insanely easy to pirate

[foggy veldt]

Not replayable but a good hack and slash game to play with friends

I don’t want to spend money on it tho

[marble lark]

I guess that's to be expected when your game is written in a language compiled to bytecode

[worn ember]

thats hardly the reason

[dusk drift]

???

Everygame is "easy" to pirate

[worn ember]

mc has tonnes of cracked servers tho

most other games dont allow that

[golden gust]

offline mode is literally built into the client

[wide chasm]

I feel like there is only a small amount of people that pirate the game compared to the 43 million paid sales

[worn ember]

you'd have to go out of your way to make a cracked server for any other game

but yeah i dont think thats the biggest reason of "low" sales

[wide chasm]

Even if a million people pirated Java Edition, that's not that much compared to the sales

[marble lark]

it takes quite a lot of effort to pirate a game actually, while it can eventually be done the difficulty in doing so will differ based on the base engine the game is built on

[foggy veldt]

Is the 238 million sales for the year?

[wide chasm]

No total

[foggy veldt]

Wow

[golden gust]

easy is relative

[worn ember]

cat is ez

[golden gust]

Many people treat cracking games as basically a CTF

[foggy veldt]

I was expecting in the billions, Minecraft is one of those fallback games where you always end up playing when nothing else comes out

[worn ember]

most people play bedrock tho

[marble lark]

i think there might be way more, we'll never know what the actual answer is

[worn ember]

those numbers are just java

[coarse lily]

Are you, like, mansplaining how to pirate games?

[marble lark]

how do you mansplain how to pirate games

[worn ember]

i dont pirate the game, i just download the pirated game

[marble lark]

also yeah

[worn ember]

also

[wide chasm]

More than 50 percent of kids age 9-11 play Minecraft in North America and Europe
wtf

[worn ember]

fukin nurds

[marble lark]

i guess that also would make sense since you can't bring a PC everywhere you go

[plucky sparrow]

You can bring a laptop tho

[worn ember]

i think its ironic that out of all games mc has its own "cross platform" edition

while being built ontop of java

which is supposed to be that abstraction layer

[marble lark]

well yeah you can bring a laptop but its more convenient on a mobile device I guess

[void void]

funny thing is, afaik you can with some trickery even get java to run as an ios app these days

[plucky sparrow]

I’d never play minecraft on phone tho

[void void]

and android apps are java

[merry talon]

@potent fossil doc referred me to a specialist with a 3-6 month wait list

[foggy veldt]

If it wasn’t for Minecraft I don’t think I would’ve ever learned programming tbh

[coarse lily]

I like how this is worded because it makes it sounds like more than half the kids on earth only play Minecraft in North America and Europe, rather than "more than half of the kids in America and Europe play Minecraft"

[plucky sparrow]

It’s so so uncomfortable

[marble lark]

wasn't Bedrock (Or rather Pocket Edition back then) originally meant to be written in Java too until Mojang ran into a snag with Java on iOS

[marble lark]

same

[worn ember]

i have no clue

[marble lark]

I remember jeb mentioning that once

[coarse lily]

Yes. The snag was "You can't throw a Java app on iOS so they didn't try."

[void void]

sounds logical for a team of java devs

[wide chasm]

Yeah, "Mom, I'm gonna play Minecraft, can you bring me to the airport, heading to the US" /s

[worn ember]

i dont follow the mc scene

[marble lark]

"Oh no we can't find a good way to run Java on iOS"
"Eh whatever doesn't have to be in Java then"

[left swift]

McMinecraft meal

[coarse lily]

Then why are you here?!

[wispy blade]

to get help with his rtp

[left swift]

That's what I was gonna say

[plucky sparrow]

I was also gonna day that

[wispy blade]

i don't even remember why i'm here

[foggy veldt]

In middle school I wanted to change the name of one of those hacked clients to be my name to show off to my friends so I watched a video about using a decompiler and class editor, then my friends caught on so I wanted to make my own hacked client and I started learning Java 6 and that’s where my story began

[marble lark]

although eventually the decision to go for C++ was probably also motivated by performance

[left swift]

And thata where it ended

Shoo kenny

[marble lark]

does Java perform decently well on iOS?

[left swift]

Does java perform decently well is the real question

Maybe even does java perform

[marble lark]

pretty well in most cases yeah

[foggy veldt]

Yes

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/3L7VJl76i9U lmao wtf

[void void]

Only java game I know of that I've played on IOS is Mindustry (https://github.com/Anuken/Mindustry/), it seems to use RoboVM and runs pretty well

[foggy veldt]

Jvm go zoom

Jvm startup and resources tho

[left swift]

Thanks ded

[marble lark]

not to the level of C/C++ though sadly

[plucky sparrow]

Not as good as swift either I’m guessing

[wispy blade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJC3JsvhM9o

faster than C# apparently

[worn ember]

the benchmarks ive seen favor C#

[void void]

news flash: java is faster than off brand microsoft java

[marble lark]

Java has a templating interpreter while C# is entirely JIT so I guess that sorta kinda makes sense?

[wide chasm]

There's generally no need to worry about Java performance assuming you write sort of sane code. Lower-level languages can be faster, but in most cases the additional performance is rather small.

[abstract peak]

anyone know how to move a save location for steam?

[wispy blade]

google knows

[abstract peak]

I installed steam on my external and it still saves on c

I tried google.

that's why im here

[void void]

libraries or smth in settings

[worn ember]

^^

[abstract peak]

I also tried installing the game on my external but it still saves on c

[quasi valley]

Google "steam move save location" and click on the first result

[marble lark]

iirc Java some time ago was actually catching up to C and C++ as C2 was aggressively patched over and over

[abstract peak]

yeah I've done that

[coarse lily]

Yes, Java performs very well for certain things.

[abstract peak]

several times

[quasi valley]

You didn't try hard enough then :p

[wide chasm]

Java's JIT is extremely competent

[quasi valley]

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4BD4-4528-6B2E-8327#:~:text=Go to your Steam Library,Move install folder..."

[plucky sparrow]

is there no more .google or whatever it was?

[void void]

there is

[marble lark]

but then gcc came up with profile guided optimization and link time optimization and let Java behind again

[foggy veldt]

Doesn’t discord have it built into the context menu

[abstract peak]

this doesn't work

[void void]

explain "doesn't work"

[abstract peak]

regardless of where it's installed at, it still saves to c

[left swift]

Kenny is now in charge of all Google requests

[abstract peak]

i tried both steam and the game itself being installed on my external

[coarse lily]

It's not that simple. You're picking single random aspects of languages and declaring one "better" or "faster" on that sole datapoint.

[abstract peak]

still saves on c

[quasi valley]

I will redirect all your requests to @waxen panther 's dms

[coarse lily]

That's like saying "London is better than Paris because London has more cars with red wheels"

[void void]

you have to select the new location on install afaik

then it should remember

[coarse lily]

There's a lot of nuance in why a language is fast or slow for particular tasks over another.

[quasi valley]

idk what to tell you, but you probably didn't actually follow that article's steps

[abstract peak]

yeah tried that too

it can't be moved because it's already installed on my external

[marble lark]

I know that isn't the full story but from what I know developers for the compilers haven't been idle either

[abstract peak]

but doesn't save there

[marble lark]

though I guess I could've worded it better

[golden gust]

It boils down to where the games care to save data

if the game is gonna save its data elsewhere, good luck, I guess

[abstract peak]

this gets even more coomplicated because I did it before

[golden gust]

afaik that's generally more a game specific thing rather than a steam thing

[abstract peak]

I switched out my internal drive

[golden gust]

maybe some registry settings or something somewhere for it

[abstract peak]

and I managed to make it work before but it's refusing now

[golden gust]

I don't even recall steam having a central save location

[marble lark]

I guess you could say that, but one thing in general that did change is the advantage JIT systems used to have over static compilers

[golden gust]

The thing is that java has some pros in that it's there at runtime

[foggy veldt]

Run ccleaner

[golden gust]

Like, it's able to do things like yeet out null checks if your code is pretty rarely passed null

[foggy veldt]

Ccleaner is pog and ccleaner slander will not be tolerated

[quasi valley]

ccleaner is nice to at least find dead registry locations

[golden gust]

it can aggressively optimise and "oh shit" out if something breaks that optimisation

many things that a JIT can do which you can't do AOT

[void void]

pretty sure games are supposed to save to some central location that steam knows about

[marble lark]

JIT used to have the edge given the massive amount of runtime information it has access to, but from what I know newer compilers have developed techniques that have given them pretty much the same advantages JIT has (Unless I remember it wrongly?)

[void void]

so it can clean up at uninstall and allow you to access the folder

might not all be in the same place though :(

[golden gust]

there are many things which you can't really do AOT

[left swift]

Let's run a third topic here

[golden gust]

e.g. code flow analaysis at runtime will always give you more info than flow analysis at compile time

[marble lark]

@magic river did I get it right I'm a little confused now

[marble lark]

true that

[golden gust]

modern compilers have gotten pretty fucking smart, tbqh

I mean, a lot of the time, you're not really programming for performance, you're programming for flow and readability

[quasi valley]

can we get the same but for you

[golden gust]

I'd imagine that micro-optimised C will perform just as well as micro'd java in a lot of cases

But, the jvm is pretty smart too, so, boils down to what you're doing

[marble lark]

I thought that was actually one of the reasons performance for JIT sometimes drops a little for a while tbh

[golden gust]

It is

[marble lark]

since it then has to spend time deoptimizing it and then running it in interpreted mode

[golden gust]

aggressive over-optimisation can be a performance issues

[marble lark]

iirc for Java it actually decompiles it back to bytecode

[marble lark]

ah

[abstract peak]

it's installed here "E:\SteamLibrary" but saves here "C:\Users\Ergenta\Zomboid"

[golden gust]

that's down to the game

[marble lark]

games don't really bother where you want data to be saved i think

[golden gust]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/0/1630789172630807911/

[void void]

if it really bothers you, you could try simlinking, although i'm not sure how good symlinks work on windows

[golden gust]

first google result, or ^

[quasi valley]

Now you're just pretending you knew something all along based on an article someone else sent you yesterday

[marble lark]

its actually a pretty common habit for engines to dump saves in there or in AppData

[marble lark]

not really I learnt that pretty recently while staring at Minecraft log files

the things I do to get the game to run at a decent fps

[abstract peak]

thanks elly

[worn ember]

windows has symlinks

[golden gust]

yes

[void void]

I know

[marble lark]

alternatively you could drag it out to the desktop view if accessibility is the only concern

[golden gust]

Not everything plays all too well work them iirc

[worn ember]

it was a question

[coarse lily]

I think the trick is that when you learn something very recently you shouldn't talk about it like you're an authority on the subject.

[void void]

Not sure how well they behave across drives though

[void void]

It shouldn't be on the desktop view though, windows uses a seperate desktop folder

[worn ember]

seeing as i cant even properly navigate between drives without first selecting it i have low hopes

[marble lark]

I mean sorry if it came across that way but it is kinda obvious that I only know some parts of it so i thought it didn't matter

[marble lark]

oh

[coarse lily]

It's good to learn things for sure. I think if you go back and re-read what you've been posting you're coming off less like a person still newish and learning and more of a person who is new but pretending they know a ton. Maybe that's just in the presentation of it all. Just some unsolicited feedback.

[marble lark]

yeah I am pretty curious but I guess it's the way i (Unintentionally) talk sometimes

sigh

sorry

[worn ember]

maybe dont read upside down

[marble lark]

?

[coarse lily]

I think he's making a joke about my avatar.

[brave radish]

oh.. I guess I'm too used to 's avatar to notice

[marble lark]

ah ok

[golden gust]

ocelot being upside down all the time really explains a lot

[warm anchor]

Ocelot is balding so he puts his avatar upside down so the gravity hits his bald spot

[wispy blade]

[marble lark]

man's gonna be faster than Usain Bolt in like a year with all this running after the roasts

[coarse lily]

Hey don't steal Z's material!

[tropic flame]

guys

public class NightSky {
    private boolean airplanes = true;
    private boolean shootingStars = true;

    public NightSky() {
        if (airplanes == shootingStars) {
            var wish = new Wish();
            wish.use(When.RIGHT_NOW);
            wish.use(When.RIGHT_NOW);
            wish.use(When.RIGHT_NOW);
        }
    }
}

this is funny i think

[marble lark]

why use all 3 wishes at once :C

[golden gust]

!ban @tropic flame no

[upbeat falcon]

Finding shooting stars and Star Fragments in Animal Crossing: New ...

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[marble lark]

what the

oh

[tropic flame]

i mean, the song repeats that line two more times

[tropic flame]

LMAO

[waxen panther]

!ban @tropic flame

😠

where are my mod perms

[tropic flame]

HAHAHAHAHA

beautiful

[waxen panther]

@ electroniccat[no-ping]

[marble lark]

cat really likes doing that and it always makes me clench my ass every time

[golden gust]

fasten your seatbelts

[tropic flame]

one day there'll be an incident

and cat won't regret it

[golden gust]

clench your buttox

IT'S Goin' tO bE a BumPy rIiideee

[mossy knoll]

Anyone know of any minigame plugins that can regenerate arenas and have alot of customization

[marble lark]

literally all that has to happen is for him to mistakenly put a ? instead of the !

[golden gust]

?ban

?ban @marble lark and I said, biiiiitch

[marble lark]

bro don't do me like that :C

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LGEiIL1__s

[waxen panther]

[deep juniper]

I haven't come in here for so long that I can't see who pinged me. 🤔

[marble lark]

!ban zzzCat abusing mod powers >:C

[waxen panther]

😳

paper-chan

[void void]

Oh hey

It's the one and only paper chan

[deep juniper]

Hello, broccolai! 😳

[deep juniper]

Hi, Noah! It is indeed me. 😄

[marble lark]

lmao

[deep juniper]

How have things been in here? I see Tuinity is being merged. I'm sure that means good things!

[marble lark]

Paper's performance skyrocketed from what i hear

[worn ember]

@warm anchor look at this man, how am i supposed to win like this

[marble lark]

but at the same time some new bugs resulted

[deep juniper]

Well, bugs are inevitable to be found. I believe in the skill of our contributors, though. 😊 I'm sure they're able to do something special for everyone!

[marble lark]

i think some of them were upstream's fault and not Tuinity's though (Don't quote me I'm just repeating what people said above)

[waxen panther]

wat

[deep juniper]

Are you putting the blame on Paper? 👀

[worn ember]

im putting the blame on brocc

[marble lark]

Paper's upstream**

[worn ember]

bad mod coordinator

[marble lark]

ie Spigot

[wispy blade]

brocc only coordinates the mods

not the paper devs

[worn ember]

all i hear are excuses

[warm anchor]

oh

[wispy blade]

all i hear is a belgian

[warm anchor]

hi paper chan ❤️

[worn ember]

kaaskop

[warm anchor]

[deep juniper]

Heeey, I don't think brocc is ill-intentioned. 😦

[waxen panther]

wtf wtf wtf

[silver nexus]

Kid running around the halls in his boxers… gotta love high school

[waxen panther]

i have not broken anything 😠

[worn ember]

except my will to live /s

[quick pasture]

hey

[marble lark]

vegtebal overlord

[deep juniper]

Hello, EterNity!! Long time no see

[wispy blade]

you've broken ded's heart brocc

[waxen panther]

vegtebal overlord

ded is dumb

and i do NOT care.

[worn ember]

wtf toxic

[wispy blade]

yeah fair enough

[waxen panther]

i do not associate with d*ta players

[marble lark]

i like how this is just a consensus everyone here agreed on

[worn ember]

dont talk to eternity then

[wispy blade]

what kind of players do you associate with

[marble lark]

Minecraft

[worn ember]

weebs

[waxen panther]

chad masters+ apex players

[marble lark]

obviously

[void void]

the ones who don't play d*ta

Who is paper-chan confess

[wispy blade]

ded is belgian, ofc he's dumb

[waxen panther]

ded is a dot.net dev

[worn ember]

can we ban this racist

[marble lark]

!ban @worn ember

[wispy blade]

not racist if it's true

[twin lagoon]

[mossy vessel]

The channel you are in brocc doesn't really fit

[twin lagoon]

catgirl paperchan wen

[worn ember]

better than a minecraft dev

[mossy vessel]

Should be called Gemüsefach or sth along these lines

[marble lark]

hey both are pretty cool lol

[waxen panther]

no

[deep juniper]

😹

[marble lark]

I know its a joke don't flame me pleas

;-;

[wispy blade]

says the rtp dev

[marble lark]

public class EntityCatgirl extends EntityPaperChan implements ICat

[waxen panther]

WTF

NO C# NAMING SCHEMES HERE

😷 👎

[deep juniper]

Hungarian notation for that interface? Oh lord. 😱

[wispy blade]

has to be public class CatgirlPaperChan extends PaperChan obviously 🙄

[marble lark]

I thought that was a Java convention too I'm dumb lmao

[void void]

😠

[worn ember]

public Weeb Weeb {get; private set;}

[waxen panther]

delete

[deep juniper]

You should probably take a look at this! https://developer.okta.com/blog/2019/06/25/iinterface-considered-harmful

[static badge]

why is someone roleplaying as paper-chan in paper general

[marble lark]

spigot names ftw

[static badge]

who are you

[marble lark]

runs

[waxen panther]

who are you "SpottedLeaf"

[worn ember]

this is mc roleplay server bro

[marble lark]

thanks!

[deep juniper]

Why would I be someone else instead of myself? You don't make sense. 😛

[void void]

you re aurora arent you

[marble lark]

"He could be you, he could be me, he could even be-"

[void void]

I ask myself exactly that every time I open this discord

[marble lark]

"-right behind you"

[waxen panther]

reddit avatar

[twin lagoon]

[marble lark]

busted

[deep juniper]

And you are Paper-chan! And you are also Paper-chan! And you are Paper-chan too! https://tenor.com/view/oprah-you-and-you-all-of-you-gif-13458404

[void void]

send me something better and I'll use it

[wispy blade]

public class DarkEyeDragon {

  private boolean belgian;

  public DarkEyeDragon() {
    this.belgian = true;
  }

  public boolean isDumb() {
    return belgian;
  }
}``` 
happy?

[waxen panther]

[marble lark]

I cry no one got the meet the spy reference

[warm anchor]

hello can you tell us more about the origin of your name? My friend told me Tuninty kernel developer is into furry stuff but I refuse to believe it until I google search "spottedleaf fursona." To avoid being misinformed, can you tell me if your name is related to furry or not? thank you my sir @static badge

[void void]

abstract art

[twin lagoon]

how does paper-chan's IDE / setup look like

[warm anchor]

[twin lagoon]

show us the rice

we got em

get fucked

[waxen panther]

what what what what

i didn't look fast enough

[twin lagoon]

shitty 1024x768 screen, windows 7, gmt timezone

[warm anchor]

[twin lagoon]

this is absolutely no one notable

[warm anchor]

I didnt see

[void void]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555469074080202765/883096979465465906/unknown.png for those too lazy to look up irc logs

[marble lark]

const person = {
    firstName: "DarkEye",
    lastName: "Dragon",
    belgian: true,
    isDumb: function() {
      return this.belgian;
    }
};

[waxen panther]

#general message

shitty screen resolution ?

= old laptop

[twin lagoon]

it's not vista

[waxen panther]

wft dwthfs

[wispy blade]

js 🤢

[marble lark]

lmao

i wonder what languages trigger the most people