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honest fulcrum
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its just less of the damage will be recieved

chrome cosmos
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god apple, blast resistance

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or diging 1 blocks down near the crystal

upbeat birch
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PagMan

honest fulcrum
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yes but how do u reduce the power of the explosion itself? i know how to reduce damage taken from it

upbeat birch
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mod the game to make it do less damage

untold copper
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day #85 of trying to get abs: did a 35 min cardio workout but gave it my all so i feel very tired lol. at one point i reached 190 BPM so yeah this was nice.

chrome cosmos
honest fulcrum
upbeat birch
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you can do any entity that's not a projectile

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endcrystal:
  sources: 
    - ENDER_CRYSTAL
  causes:
    - ENTITY_EXPLOSION
  formula: $X * 0.75
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or something

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then in the handlers section add endcrystal

magic river
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Huh, if Windows 11 is supposed to release October 5th that means what I'm running on my desktop right now is probably the final version

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Or just a couple bug fixes away from final

cunning raft
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iirc they said they wouldn't even push future bug fixes to incompatible cpus

quasi valley
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wtf

magic river
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They didn't say that, they said it was a possibility

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They've said similar things about Windows 10 and anyone with a Haswell or older CPU on the latest Windows 10 is using an "incompatible CPU"

native wolf
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they said Windows Update won't be available at all on incompatible hardware

ashen cliff
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Daily reminder that I still need that touch right click and copy to actually start working on Windows 11.

magic river
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No, they didn't say that

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They never definitively said anything other than Windows 11 won't be offered to Windows 10 users but that you can still install it manually for "testing"

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They also said you weren't entitled to future updates on incompatible hardware but they've said that about Windows 10 too

minor badge
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reminder that windows 8.1 is still supported by microsoft

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theyre not gonna drop older hardware lol

vestal temple
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Where's minidigger??!!! bring me minidigger :(

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#Minidigger

solid sapphire
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ah yes theres a casual snake longer than my height preventing me from parking my car in my own housewell parents

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anyone need free pet snakes

olive marlin
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I think your car is stronger than a snake?

solid sapphire
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wait i have a drawing

ashen cliff
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I demand a photo. kekwhyper

solid sapphire
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if - = snake and 0 = car, then

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k 1 sec

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ok nvm that shows WAAAY too much of my parents home

ashen cliff
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Just crop it.

solid sapphire
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and i have revealed like my entire address on discord by mistake so no. its too easy to identify even with just the interlocking.

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time to open pain

willow robin
solid sapphire
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alr how willing are you to come to kerela?

willow robin
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Idek where that is 🥺

upbeat falconBOT
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerala

listen)) is a state on the Malabar Coast of India. ... It was formed on 1 November 1956, following the passage of the States Reorganisation Act, by combining ...

willow robin
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But willing lol

solid sapphire
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there

willow robin
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Ohhhhhh damn 😳 that's far. But yes.

solid sapphire
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alr

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can you arrive in the next 4 hours before the snake decides to go into the neighbors land?

willow robin
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🥺💀 bruh I wish lol

solid sapphire
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oof

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have a barrell full of worms tho

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my compost expiriment flopped af

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it is now a worm breeding ground

willow robin
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Lol worms can be cool

solid sapphire
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these are like maggots

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i threw up bout 6 times cause of that

worn ember
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snek

remote schooner
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I love tuinity

worn ember
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no

worn crest
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I love paper

untold copper
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I love paper

worn crest
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We have a similarity 🫂

pallid raptor
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Got my proxy network setup with some help

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Works pretty nicely

waxen panther
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@worn ember owned.

worn ember
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Look at this abuse

cunning raft
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reply

worn ember
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Discord moment

left swift
quasi valley
worn ember
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📿

left swift
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😳

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In general chat ded? Ur naughty

quasi valley
left swift
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You're a mojang bug

quasi valley
left swift
mossy vessel
left swift
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Maybe his toilet is hooked up to when they flush it closes mc

solid sapphire
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LOL

left swift
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Rce toilets

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New gen

magic river
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They send me this email one day before all that stuff is going to show up at my door

solid sapphire
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Emacs is an awesome OS. All it needs is a good text editor
-PugzAreCute,2021

magic river
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That joke is older than I am

solid sapphire
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+1

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its more than double my age

magic tartan
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Tuinity have something special?

solid sapphire
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patches

magic tartan
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Oh

solid sapphire
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merged witk papermc niw

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i feel drunk for some reason

lavish compass
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how much performance impact does anti-xray.use-permission have? I'm running LuckPerms backed by a PostgreSQL cluster (~1ms)

solid sapphire
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not much?

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if its paper antixray

lavish compass
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targeting ~100 players

magic river
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People still use the original Permissions API plugin?

turbid oar
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yo so tunity be merging with you guys?

magic river
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It's done

solid sapphire
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RIP Tunity 20XX-2021

magic river
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Latest Paper build should have all the stuff, all the other repos moved to the paper org, leaf has commit access

solid sapphire
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232 iirc is the merge build

turbid oar
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PikaDance Cool. I am also switching to waterfall instead of bungeecord tonight with my team

ashen cliff
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leaf has commit access
kekwhyper

waxen panther
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move to velocity

turbid oar
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0/

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Is it the same thing as waterfall what is the difference?

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I dont really understand that jar file btw because I never used it before

peak ginkgo
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It's completely different

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But if you're using mainstream public plugins there should be Velocity versions available

turbid oar
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lol guys search velocity on google without anything else after that

charred sleet
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can github actions run jars or just build them really

turbid oar
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If I had them on bungeecord

peak ginkgo
charred sleet
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wait so i can just run normal console commands on them?

peak ginkgo
turbid oar
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yikes

peak ginkgo
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if i wanted my action to run a script that emailed me it.. could

vivid ivy
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I still don't know what the actual advantages of using velocity over waterfall are but i'm using it shrug_animated

untold meadow
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faster, better api

peak ginkgo
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everything

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improves your life

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adds 5 years to your life expectancy

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built in security ala bungeeguard

turbid oar
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I sure will talk to my team about it. It be weeks before we might do it since we have a lot of mysql databases on it. But thanks for the information DeJay

peak ginkgo
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components blobheart

solid sapphire
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ok time to join on fone

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Okey on fone

grim verge
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Whats this merging with tunity thing? is there a link to more info besides the snippet in announcements @ me if you reply thanks

peak ginkgo
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I don't know what else you expect to be told about it

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Tuinity is now Paper

remote schooner
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I love tuinity!

grim verge
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what is tuinity

grim verge
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bruh

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besides the snippet in announcements

turbid oar
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LOL

peak ginkgo
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Not knowing what Tuinity is is a different story

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It (was) a fork of Paper that modified some stuff like uh

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  • Highly optimised collisions
  • Optimised entity lookups by bounding box (Mojang made regressions in 1.17, this brings it back to 1.16)
  • Starlight https://github.com/PaperMC/Starlight
  • Rewritten dataconverter system https://github.com/PaperMC/DataConverter
  • Random block ticking optimisation (wrongly dropped from Paper 1.17)
  • Chunk ticking optimisations
  • Anything else I've forgotten in the 60 or so patches
ancient bolt
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tuinity was a place for furries to hang out at

lament patio
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Where's the tuinity goes zoom graph

grim verge
grim verge
remote schooner
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Tuinity was my favorite

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I am so glad they merged

turbid oar
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cool

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...

wispy blade
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finished assembling bed

turbid oar
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small bed sheesh

ashen cliff
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Needs more BLAHAJ!

twin lagoon
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@waxen panther koriLove

plucky sparrow
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i don't think that bed can even fit your brain

wispy blade
plucky sparrow
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no i'm not

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that's what i mean

wispy blade
plucky sparrow
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the bed is just way too small

turbid oar
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Michael! pepeclap

wispy blade
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need to relocate monkegame now 😔

warm anchor
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@twin lagoon AYAYARie

twin lagoon
tribal flicker
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We got a plugin that saves a bunch of stuff on the DB, just does huge queries in general so we were thinking of having it run on the proxy instead. People navigate through servers extremely frequently and we thought that this was causing the DB to get overloaded.
By having it run on the proxy, a query would just be made when they join the network and when they leave rather than every time they change servers.
Anyone got any thoughts on this? Haven't seen this done before

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michael say yes orno

warm anchor
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Michale is on ayaya mode today

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Pls come back in a bit EmaBkr

tribal flicker
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valorangry I need yes or no answer immediately valorangry

warm anchor
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An out of contract call of Michale will be $80 an hour with a minimum of 5 hour billed, my sir.

tribal flicker
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I guess I can wait valorsad

waxen panther
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xoxooxox

warm anchor
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You can get brocco to answer that question instead, he gets paid with exposures

tribal flicker
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what is your input on this broci

left swift
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Brocc says add interface

waxen panther
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I mean really depends on what you’re doing

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If it can be done on the proxy, and makes sense to. Go ahead

red timber
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consider using some caching mechanism as well

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redis is quite fast, memcached is considerable as well (but rarely deployed on minecraft-related systems)

ashen cliff
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Just make sure to not configure memcached at all.

warm anchor
daring gulch
magic river
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Docker Desktop costs money now

mossy vessel
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*for the few people in here that are actually affected by it 👀

left swift
quick pasture
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right

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what minecraft server has 250 employees or more than 10M$ annual revenue 👀

magic river
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You'll be over the revenue number well before you hit 250 employees

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Unless you're in Eastern Europe or something maybe

red timber
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you cannot create community orgs anymore, they redirect you to paid plans instantly

magic river
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It's more of a "well great, now I have to try to get my boss to jump through the hoops to pay for this thing"

red timber
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so to get a free org for public repos, you have to do following:

  1. create an account with desired username
  2. convert it to an org
magic river
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And we don't even want any of their shit, we have our own CI and image repo

red timber
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also you are limited to one access token per account

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and that access token is also limited to read & write & delete permissions

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if you want to limit it, you have to start paying

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which is ??????????????????????????????????

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ok, i understand that orgs fuzz

magic river
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We'd be paying for just the Docker Desktop which is mostly just a thing that configures VM shared folders for you

red timber
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but limiting authentication like this is beyond annoying

toxic bone
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saying "owo" in papermc general chat (challenge)

red timber
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no

limber knotBOT
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owo?

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isn't it uwu?

toxic bone
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owo

magic river
limber knotBOT
red timber
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shouldn't be that hard to extend it for windows as well

left swift
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Joe knows

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Hes releasing the 1.18 date during the afghanistan address tonight

toxic bone
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9/10/21

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Mark your calendar

tropic flame
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still waiting for beta 1.8 paper 😔

magic river
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Why would you go with beta 1.8? That was the version that killed PVP 😛

limber knotBOT
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alpha or gtfo

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who needs hunger?!?

magic river
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PVP in Minecraft is and has always been a joke but before beta 1.8 at least you could get fully geared up in like 15 minutes so losing to bullshit didn't hurt so much

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After that enchanting meant you had to spend like 12 hours to get ideal gear and anything less than ideal was almost guaranteed to lose

left swift
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Just be better at the game

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Game is way too easy now

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You can be full gear and endgame in 3 hours

magic river
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Full gear would be all netherite with prot 4 unbreaking 3 on all the armor and sharpness 5, fire aspect 2, unbreaking 3 on the sword

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Oh, and a bow with power 5, punch 2, infinity

left swift
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Only takes iron armor and ender pearls to kill dragon and loot end cities full of diamond enchanted gear

coarse lily
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With villagers now you can get to full netherite in like 30min.

left swift
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Netherite is power creep useless

magic river
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Not talking about the PVE parts, talking about fighting other people 😛

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PVE also got way easier with beta 1.8 though, yeah

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Enchants and potions meant you only died if you made a mistake and after an hour you'd have to make a lot of mistakes

tropic flame
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the last version before hunger

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i sometimes go back and play it

magic river
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beta 1.8 was the start of the decline of our survival server

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We spent the next few updates trying to nerf and buff various things, limit what enchants you could get, etc

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Problem was people wanted to play with all those new features so that hurt too

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Those features made the server suck but they wanted them anyway, that's how people are 😄

pallid raptor
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My prisons spawn isn’t doing too bad currently

south matrix
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photos of screens are my favorite

pallid raptor
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I’m on an Xbox

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I can’t do much

ancient bolt
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sometimes I forget that there are sometimes people who come through here who play minecraft and want to talk about it

coarse lily
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I want to talk about people who play Minecraft and don't want to talk about it.

left swift
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U wanna talk about 80% of the ppl here?

ancient bolt
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I wish discord supported polls

coarse lily
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People use reactions for polls.

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Kinda hacky but it sorta works.

void void
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aren't reactions limited to 5k?

quasi valley
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Hey ocelot, want to join my 1.7.10 0 player smp

coarse lily
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Yes.

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Anything for you Kenny.

worn ember
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wtf is this uprightism

inner comet
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will there ever be a day that minecraft will spread its cpu load across threads?!?!?

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*more threads i know its not fully single threaded

worn ember
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uses all thread for world gen for me

warm anchor
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Yes it does now ded

mossy vessel
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ded shuddup

inner comet
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yh world gen is multi threaded but past that, the main thread is still so heavy

warm anchor
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If you pregen all 3 worlds it will use all 3 extra threads

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For world generation

formal turret
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just add new thread()

south matrix
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so make another aspect of it async see how easy it is!

warm anchor
inner comet
formal turret
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nothing, just an overdone joke

inner comet
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ohh

worn ember
warm anchor
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Wrong reply PepeLa

left swift
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Can we pregen ded on main

tropic flame
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those multithreaded paper forks really came up one day and then just died

ashen cliff
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At least that worked without too many issues. kekwhyper

tropic flame
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there's probably some obscure fork of Torch out there

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that's kept updated

ashen cliff
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I will refuse to comment, but me asking Yive to put the source up, was not for archival purposes. kekwhyper

tropic flame
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beautiful

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i appreciate these kinds of forks

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for the history of a community it's interesting

ashen cliff
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Now, I just need someone to give us the cursed 1.5.2 async fork.

tropic flame
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that also existed at some point?

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lord

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1.5.2

ashen cliff
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Hell itself.

hollow crow
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Hi!

Someone knows if comparators changed regarding how much signal strength they get from written & signed books?

In my old server I used to have this dispenser dropper with 9 written books (and signed) in it. When it had all 9, a comparator would throw out a full 15 long signal strength, which I would use to activate the door when it had it; anything less, the door wouldn't open, making it impossible for people to leave without putting the book back.

Now even if it's full or just has 1 of the written books, it only gives me a signal of 1, making this entire contraption broken.

Anyone know anything about this/how to fix it?

Thanks!

summer kayak
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It goes by percentage.

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If I have 15 pages and I flip 1 page it will give 1 Redstone signal

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If I have 30 pages I have to flip 4 pages to get a Redstone signal of 2

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I'm pretty sure that's how it works

hollow crow
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But you are talking about a lectern, right?

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I was pulling the signal out of a dropper

warm anchor
hollow crow
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I just saw this, and it might work.. not sure though, because I'd need to run 9 command blocks for the 9 books, correct?

hollow crow
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So, in vanilla it does the same. 9 signed books inside a dropper = 1 signal strength

pallid raptor
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Hmm so I’m building my prisons server and I’m not sure if I should have an player economy so players can own little plots and buy/sell stuff

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If you watched SSundee a few years ago you’d understand when he used to do a prisons series

hollow crow
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So it isn't just a random written book, but one specifically

warm anchor
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Title should be “redstone single behavior inconstancy” or something like that and write in as much details as possible for dev to check

turbid oar
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that be fun

magic river
hollow crow
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Yeah, exactly

pallid raptor
magic river
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Vanilla behavior changed or Paper used to be wrong and isn't now

warm anchor
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Oh I read it wrong dedrie

pallid raptor
warm anchor
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Discard it then! PepeLa

hollow crow
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I used to run this server on 1.6.4 so its pretty old and been a while since I made this, so yeah, things regarding written books and comparators changed in the meanwhile

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But I guess there isn't anything to be done regarding the method I used to use right? Can't really make the signal go further from the dropper to the spot where it activates.. :/

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So when I run this command:

/execute if block 417 165 788 minecraft:dropper{Items:[{id:"minecraft:written_book"}]}

Can I make it so it it recognizes the written book with the title, say, "Sun", and not any other title?

void void
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pretty sure you would do that with smth like Items:[{id:"minecraft:written_book",tag:{title:"Sun"}}]

hollow crow
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Nice!! It's exactly that! I was checking another thread about how to specify that but the command was slightly different. And although it showed ok in the command block (no red text), it didn't work.

Now it does, got a new way to fix my issue.

Thanks greatly to everyone!

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Hmmm just a question.. how would I reset the command block running the /execute command?

olive marlin
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What you mean by reset?

hollow crow
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Right now I step on a pressure plate to activate a command block with that command

(/execute if block 417 165 788 minecraft:dropper{Items:[{id:"minecraft:written_book",tag:{title:"Warning"}}]})

But after that the comparator stays on. I'd like it to turn off after being run once

magic river
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I just realized Escape from Tarkov is just a clone of the DayZ servers that had NPC trader shops

tropic flame
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damn, DayZ

olive marlin
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Make and gate with pressure plate and comparator? The comparator just tells you whether last run command was a success.
Make and gate to make sure you only read it when someone is on the pressure plate (might need to delay this with repeater).

hollow crow
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Hmmm I think I understand, let me try it out

chrome sentinel
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Oh, I just read your name lmao.

magic river
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Necroreply too

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That was a message from 3 weeks ago

hollow crow
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So, I'm guessing something like this?

Dropper has the book;
The CB is testing for it in it;
AND Gate to pull down the piston to open the path

Now I just need to do this with 1 dropper, 9 command blocks and 10 paths for the AND Gate 😅

magic river
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Oh, and I always thought Fortnite was meant to be a clone of Sanctum or Minecraft but a shooter but it seems like it might also be based on DayZ mods

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Probably mostly Sanctum but the base building in DayZ mods seemed to work a lot like Fortnite's building tool

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So it started as a clone of DayZ building servers and turned in to a clone of DayZ BR servers (aka PUBG) 😄

foggy veldt
magic river
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1.4.7 is way too new

foggy veldt
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It was the version of Minecraft I started playing on :( I remember for months I would use red stone torches to light my base because I didn’t know regular torches were a thing

magic river
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I'm totally alpha

swift root
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Same vibes using redstone torches for light as using 1.4 for performance

magic river
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Back when the game was hard 😛

plucky sparrow
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Um is it just me or YouTube is dying

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Like it takes ten damn years to los any video

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My internet is fine too

turbid oar
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I don't think its dying

plucky sparrow
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Why is mine struggling so hard to play any video ☹️

magic river
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youtube problems are pretty much always going to be geographically isolated or even limited to just your ISP

plucky sparrow
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Oh come on

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It’s

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So damn bad

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I’ll just watch twitch instead

turbid oar
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fuck I hate when it rains at the wrong time

potent fossil
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Rain is good for the planet

plucky sparrow
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I love rain

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Except when I’m outside

plain thunder
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now im interested how much mc 1.17 will take up with paper

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my vps is ready on 2 cored ryzens with eh.. 4gb ram

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well 2.5gb technically

floral mesa
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@plain thunder 2.5GB of ram? thats a rather odd amount, unless its what you have that is free

plain thunder
floral mesa
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I think 2GB should be fine for a handful of players, but I wouldnt push my luck on that

plain thunder
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hmm

floral mesa
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what else are you running on that system?

plain thunder
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4 discord bots, a factorio server and some websites :p

floral mesa
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let me guess, they are either java or nodejs

plain thunder
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nodejs

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but they're limited in their max memory usage so thats fine

floral mesa
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yeah, if you plan on doing a public server, I would suggest upwards of a minimum of 8GB, I run networks where 20GB is the norm per server

plain thunder
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well.. i ran mc fine on 4gb before

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and public as in > 4 players at once? server never reaches that

floral mesa
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if your under 10-20 players, 2-4gb is fine

plain thunder
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yep

floral mesa
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I got servers with well over 20-40 players per instance

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depending on the network

plain thunder
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yeah im not getting such a massive server lol

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idk where i'd be supposed to go for to get such high playercount

floral mesa
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dedicated servers

plain thunder
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no i meant where to go for having players

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lmao

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not where to host

floral mesa
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ah, voting sites, forums ,etc. I dont deal with that aspect, I just do the backend operations of management

plain thunder
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hmm..

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oh no

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i'm required to login thru microsoft now

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migration 😦

turbid oar
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xD

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Do you guys know how to fix the water issue. Because sometimes water doesn't flow....

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and yeah ik random question

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maybe not supported

golden gust
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Ah, yes

turbid oar
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but its on my survival server that is 1.17.1

golden gust
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the water issue

turbid oar
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Is there a way to fix it

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I dont have these because players complain about them clearlagg/stoplag/

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I just have general every day plugins

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and my server is running 20gb I have a network so I got more then 20gb 😄

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my survival server is running 20gb I meant to say

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and we also optmizie.....

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wait...

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maybe thats why?

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Be right back gotta grab something to eat

solid sapphire
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mornim

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got bout 253 pings cause my inet went

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..... yeah

plain thunder
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uhm i guess it doesn't work?

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latest 1.17 paper on 2.5gb ram

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mc_1  | [01:48:24 ERROR]: --- DO NOT REPORT THIS TO PAPER - THIS IS NOT A BUG OR A CRASH ---
mc_1  | [01:48:25 ERROR]: ------------------------------
mc_1  | [01:48:27 ERROR]: ------------------------------
mc_1  | [01:48:29 ERROR]: The server has stopped responding! This is (probably) not a Paper bug.
mc_1  | [01:48:30 ERROR]: If you see a plugin in the Server thread dump below, then please report it to that author
mc_1  | [01:48:31 ERROR]:        *Especially* if it looks like HTTP or MySQL operations are occurring
mc_1  | [01:48:33 ERROR]: If you see a world save or edit, then it means you did far more than your server can handle at once
mc_1  | [01:48:34 ERROR]:        If this is the case, consider increasing timeout-time in spigot.yml but note that this will replace the crash with LARGE lag spikes
mc_1  | [01:48:34 ERROR]: If you are unsure or still think this is a Paper bug, please report this to https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues
mc_1  | [01:48:36 ERROR]: Be sure to include ALL relevant console errors and Minecraft crash reports
mc_1  | [01:48:36 ERROR]: Paper version: git-Paper-235 (MC: 1.17.1)
mc_1  | [01:48:36 ERROR]: ------------------------------
mc_1  | [01:48:36 ERROR]: Server thread dump (Look for plugins here before reporting to Paper!):
mc_1  | [01:48:37 ERROR]: ------------------------------```
#

😦

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mc_1 | 2021-09-01T01:57:02.054Z WARN mc-server-runner sub-process failed {"exitCode": -1} mc_1 | 2021-09-01T01:57:02.063Z INFO mc-server-runner Done minecraft_mc_1 exited with code 255 this randomly exited D:

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idk whats going on tbh..

novel horizon
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damn

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electronicboy saying that java uses ram out of heap like a thousand times

silver nexus
#

my 6 year old HP laptop runs better than the brand new school laptops lmao

golden gust
#

Not surprising, most schools go for cheapest bidder

floral mesa
#

yeah, most of them are bidding more so for chromebooks than buying laptops that will outlast a few generations

#

my high school bought T series thinkpads before they went cheap with ipads and chromebooks

#

and they didnt always buy them at the same time, generally they separated their deployments every few years, so you end up with a few different laptop types.

#

so there were T40, T60, T520s and the like

hot crater
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hello?

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I,m new

formal turret
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hi new, i'm thonk

hot crater
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hello

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I,m looking for friends for my SMp

tropic flame
#

you'll find a few here and there but they're all mostly server owners and developers

#

so uh, good luck

hot crater
#

thanks I guess

blissful wing
#

sorry wrong chat

tropic flame
blissful wing
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hi guys

hot crater
#

hi

tropic flame
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oh hello

#

is that bio true?

#

oh wait

#

NVM you got a role, i guess it's legit then

golden gust
#

Yes, agentk is the one and only walmart greeter

silver nexus
#

they are actual dell laptops with windows enterprise

golden gust
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(We found him first, so, that means that by law, he's ours)

solid sapphire
#

:worry:

golden gust
#

licks him just to seal the deal

solid sapphire
#

WE why tho ?

silver nexus
#

...

solid sapphire
#

*WIndows enterprice

#

mpt we

solid sapphire
floral mesa
#

they most likely fit them with cheap i3s

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schools dont need great specs

solid sapphire
#

yepp

floral mesa
#

and are you comparing that to a gaming laptop with built in nvidia graphics?

golden gust
#

I mean, it's all about how many machines can they got for as little as they got/wanna part with

floral mesa
#

yeah

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it also depends on the class

#

some classes require better laptops

#

of course, many schools dont have that strict requirement

solid sapphire
floral mesa
#

since they need to budget for many laptops

#

@solid sapphire ?

solid sapphire
#

i said this to the some clss need better laptops

#

WTF vakoe this was a promise from 2020

chrome cosmos
#

my school got 30,000 inr laptops very low indian money
custom laptop cover with school logo for 2000
and a custom ubuntu distroo

solid sapphire
#

custom?

chrome cosmos
#

custom laptop cover

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with school logo

solid sapphire
#

prob s just a customised copy of ubuntuthat they imaged

marble lark
solid sapphire
#

but 30K inr is not low, its a lot still

chrome cosmos
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the modified by delting terminal

chrome cosmos
solid sapphire
#

probs you dont have root access

solid sapphire
chrome cosmos
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just a terminal alternative

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root acces

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amd removed app store

solid sapphire
#

XTerm?

chrome cosmos
#

not sure

solid sapphire
#

Gnome terminal?

chrome cosmos
solid sapphire
#

konsole

chrome cosmos
#

i don't remember

solid sapphire
#

its part of kde

chrome cosmos
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ubuntu they gave cd

solid sapphire
#

im 78% sure its konsole, its a proper terminal.

chrome cosmos
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ohh and btw modified bios password too

solid sapphire
#

yeah normal

chrome cosmos
#

had to flash the hard disk myself before installing windows 10

solid sapphire
#

eh

chrome cosmos
#

i flashed so ubuntu got removed
and it reads from pendrive

silver nexus
#

the school had no BIOS password but they give the laptop already connected to their internet, and if you mess with it at all you cant connect to the internet anymore

#

you also get in big trouble for messing with it

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my friend learned that the hard way

solid sapphire
#

i think i reflashed my bios on the shool laptop before

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and installed intellij

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speaking of that time to renew my license

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ok so now what do i do

chrome cosmos
#

and you know what else they raided all the laptops from the students vault and installled a cracked version of win 10 kekw

silver nexus
#

lmao the school never gave us product licences either

viscid wedge
solid sapphire
#

aah fire in the paper room

chrome cosmos
solid sapphire
#

joke

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But ohno papermc is burning get the fire extingusher!

chrome cosmos
#

i absoluty dont get the joke

marble lark
unkempt drift
#

Unfortunately something far worse usually happens, or at least happened last time

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Still have nightmares

true canyon
true canyon
unkempt drift
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Oh no

true canyon
solid sapphire
marble lark
#

did Paper completely break last April fools

magic river
solid sapphire
#

last april fools i set my stale-bot to 1 day

unkempt drift
#

well, the Paper discord broke completely. was unusable

solid sapphire
#

and nuked the repo

unkempt drift
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the issue has been fixed btw, the large-ish one

true canyon
solid sapphire
#

:worry:

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how did it break

unkempt drift
#

well mbaxter and Amaranth are attempting to break it again right now

solid sapphire
#

how?

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explain or 🔫 jkjk

unkempt drift
#

by encouraging a takeover by a hostile force

true canyon
#

Hostile? You misunderstand paperchan's intentions

marble lark
novel horizon
#

no setup fee on some Hetzner servers

solid sapphire
magic river
#

On that glorious day Paper-chan was in the server icon, server header, emotes, and website

solid sapphire
#

:HAHAYES:

static badge
peak ginkgo
solid sapphire
marble lark
#

y'all know if an AST is better for JIT Compilers vs bytecode?

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can't find anything else to back it up though

vernal moth
#

clearly depends on the impl

#

I doubt anything from that ancient paper still applies, c2 has come a long way and the future is graal

marble lark
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Ah ok

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the future is Graal
Didn't they axe Graal from Java 16 and later though?

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(Was pretty upset about that and still am tbh)

vernal moth
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the interface is still there and you can use it via maven modules?

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but thats not the real graal anyways

marble lark
#

oh

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rip didn't know that

vernal moth
#

graalvm is a separate runtime

next frost
magic river
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graalvm is a separate runtime? I don't think that's true

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It might be a separate download but I'm fairly sure that's still just the JVM and it's using the JVMCI to take over JIT tasks

solid sapphire
magic river
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I suppose the native image stuff has to be a separate runtime though, not actually sure how that works

vernal moth
#

well, am not an expert either

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but I know that running JS on openjdk hotspot via graal/truffle has way worse performance than running the same code on graalvm ce

magic river
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I assumed the native image stuff was basically just running the JIT inside the normal JVM and dumping the machine code instead of executing it

marble lark
magic river
marble lark
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I vaguely remember a doc saying that a native-image application is not managed code

vernal moth
#

interesting, so they only replace the highest tier

magic river
#

I'd guess the version you get from graalvm ce is just newer or they're setting the right JVM flags to make things not suck

marble lark
vernal moth
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this exist tho

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but I guess then you don't even need javac anymore?

magic river
#

That's Java implemented in Java

vernal moth
#

ah no its still bytecode

marble lark
#

I even AOT Compiled the entire Graal Compiler and Minecraft still ran at 11FPS lmao

magic river
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They're trying to go metacircular by some day using native-image to spit out a JVM from that Java on Truffle implementation, I think

marble lark
#

Never said it was accurate

vernal moth
#

java on truffle replaces the full compiler stack then, right? bytecode in and the graal JIT does everything

magic river
#

Nothing on their website makes me think native-image isn't just loading all references in your bytecode recursively then using the graal JIT to turn them in to machine code and saving that

#

Although I don't think they do things like JS engines do where native calls are machine code snippets they paste in, pretty sure they do normal FFI calls into C code

marble lark
#

I thought JIT code needed the VM to run though cause they're essentially just compiled methods

magic river
#

So native calls would have to be reimplemented it, that's the true runtime

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The JIT spits out amd64 CPU instructions, any references it makes to things in the JVM (not the JDK, that would get converted along with your app) would need to be reimplemented

marble lark
#

Ah ok

marble lark
magic river
#

JS engines are a bunch of assembly code snippets for each JS token or code fragment and they just paste them together as they go 😛

#

That's the baseline JIT anyway, optimizations are more complicated

magic river
ancient bolt
#

What a pretty button

novel horizon
#

True

quasi valley
#

whoever at GH placed that button has webdesign as their passion

novel horizon
#

Definitely

#

Could you imagine that it could be better?

solid sapphire
#

its been like this for 2 years now

minor badge
#

have you remembered to fill in tax forms and whatnot?

novel horizon
#

taxes

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🤮

quasi valley
#

the IRS wants to know your location

novel horizon
waxen panther
#

I was approved in a couple days modcheck

quasi valley
#

same pepela

solid sapphire
#

just gonna add a paypal link

vernal moth
marble lark
#

should be on the Paper repo if I'm not mistaken

marble lark
# magic river Nothing on their website makes me think native-image isn't just loading all refe...

btw I found the answer to that on Graal's readme:

Native Image is a technology to ahead-of-time compile Java code to a standalone executable, called a native image. This executable includes the application classes, classes from its dependencies, runtime library classes, and statically linked native code from JDK. It does not run on the Java VM, but includes necessary components like memory management, thread scheduling, and so on from a different runtime system, called "Substrate VM". Substrate VM is the name for the runtime components (like the deoptimizer, garbage collector, thread scheduling etc.). The resulting program has faster startup time and lower runtime memory overhead compared to a JVM.

The Native Image builder or native-image is a utility that processes all classes of an application and their dependencies, including those from the JDK. It statically analyzes these data to determine which classes and methods are reachable during the application execution. Then it ahead-of-time compiles that reachable code and data to a native executable for a specific operating system and architecture. This entire process is called building an image (or the image build time) to clearly distinguish it from the compilation of Java source code to bytecode.

magic river
#

That doesn't really answer it

#

But after thinking about it more I'm like 95% sure they're just using manually running their JIT and saving the result instead of running it

marble lark
#

fair enough

magic river
#

Especially since they kept compatibility with JNI things

#

That means their runtime pretends to be the JVM which means the output of the JIT should work with it

marble lark
#

i guess that makes sense but I have no idea whether a full on new compiler to native code is less work than making a whole system just to use the existing JIT so I can't say for sure

marble lark
magic river
#

A full new JVM bytecode to native code compiler with optimizations would be a ton of work

#

In theory a JIT should be trying to compile quickly so won't be able to do as many optimizations but since it's a replacement for the c2 JIT it has more time to spare

#

And they could still write all the fancier optimizations and just not turn them on when it's run in JIT mode

#

In fact I know that's a part of what the paid version of graal is, more optimizations are enabled

vernal moth
#

uwu whats this

marble lark
native wolf
#

But can't JIT optimize better than AOT as the JVM can see hotspots and even deoptimize and then reoptimize code again if necessary

marble lark
#

in theory its supposed to be better at optimizing than a static compiler but the time it takes to do so (And then deoptimize if a new condition pops up before being recompiled) sorta offsets the advantage it has

marble lark
magic river
#

Link Time Optimization and Profile Guided Optimization have pretty much wiped out any potential performance advantage a JIT would have

marble lark
#

that's a good point

native wolf
#

That's interesting

marble lark
#

i did think a JIT still had the edge over profile guided optimization though since every time a program runs the state it's in differs

#

not entirely sure what LTO does, just that it's a new option in the newer compilers of today

waxen panther
marble lark
magic river
#

The only thing left would be being able to pick the most efficient SSE or AVX version at JIT time when doing autovectorization but I don't think the JVM even does that kind of optimization and it's possible to make a C compiler build multiple versions of a vector function and have a fairly cheap load time check/patch for which one to use

marble lark
magic river
#

I don't think any compilers do multiple versions of autovectorization like that but things like ffmpeg manually code all the various SSE and AVX versions of things and then do the load time check for which one to use

marble lark
marble lark
magic river
#

autovectorization is when a compiler takes normal code and rewrites it to use SIMD instructions

#

SSE, AVX, NEON, etc

#

So if you have a loop for (int i = 0; i < 4; i++) arr[i] += 10; it would convert that into loading the array into a SIMD register, doing the addition on all 4 indices at once, then storing the SIMD register back in to the array

#

The load and store aren't cheap so sometimes it can make things slower although it'll usually take that in to account when deciding if autovectorization should happen

marble lark
#

I guess this means the dream I had like 4 years ago of Java being able to compete with languages that are traditionally statically compiled is ded rip

magic river
#

And a lot of things can confuse it or accidentally break the ability to do autovectorization

marble lark
magic river
#

SIMD is Single Instruction, Multiple Data so yeah

marble lark
#

ah ok

magic river
#

Instead of doing add 10 four times it does it to 4 things all at the same time

marble lark
#

that's like some next level sh*t jesus

#

and I thought working with a microcontroller was already annoying

magic river
#

Intel CPUs have been doing that since 1997 with MMX

#

Although it wasn't until SSE2 in 2000 or really when AMD64 more or less guaranteed SSE2 would exist in 2003 that usage made sense outside of some special cases

ancient bolt
#

Modern compilers are often and to produce more efficient vectorized code than if you were to try to do that optimization yourself

#

Kind of wild

magic river
#

The new hotness these days is actual vector instructions instead of the fixed width stuff we've had so far

ancient bolt
#

But then you look at how bloated and impossible x86 is up understand and no wonder computers can do it better

magic river
#

So instead of having SSE2 for 64-bit, AVX for 128-bit, AVX2 for 256-bit, and AVX512 for 512-bit you just have one instruction set that can work with dynamically sized things between a minimum and maximum size

#

ARM64 has this but it's a real PITA to use, in some ways messier than working with x86 instructions

ancient bolt
#

That sounds harder to optimize from a hardware perspective

magic river
#

RISC-V has a really nice version

#

Eh, it basically just makes the hardware do the loop for you and handle the tail padding and masking when you don't have an even multiple of its internal vector engine

marble lark
magic river
#

It means code written for something that doesn't even have a vector engine could scale up to running on something with a 1024-bit one without a recompile though

#

So long as they both implemented the vector extension

ancient bolt
#

Well when it comes to optimization locality is really important, and making sure groups of variables don't get split between 2 pages is something compilers can do way easier than humans

magic river
#

I think the reasoning is the vast majority of the time it's not any slower because the CPU is just doing the same work your hand-written SSE2 would have done but the advantage is your code automatically scales to new wider implementations

ancient bolt
#

But also reordering is huge too, esp considering the optimal ordering of instructions may not be the same from one platform to another, again compilers are way more suited to the task

magic river
#

All useful video encoders and decoders are written in assembly

ancient bolt
#

If they aren't implemented directly in hardware as it is lol

magic river
#

The parsing and logic for figuring out what to do is in C or Rust or whatever but the actual grunt work of doing it is in assembly and has several versions for each SIMD version

magic river
#

A lot of the libvpx ones are actually C but if you look at them they're just calling SIMD intrinsics which is more or less a way for you to insert SIMD assembly into C code

#

It just leaves the compiler to figure out register allocation for you

#

So yeah, all the heavy lifting is either assembly or using C as an assembly generator, basically

ancient bolt
#

What is C other than an assembly generator

magic river
#

Eh, C was kind of a high level assembly when it first started but at least since ANSI C that hasn't really been true

#

Features don't map 1:1 to assembly and optimizations make what assembly a given bit of C emits quite surprising sometimes

#

But when you're using SIMD intrinsics it's pretty much 1:1

#

C is handing function calling conventions and register allocation, most of those C files don't do anything but call intrinsics

void void
#

Paper has GH sponsors now 👀

#

nice

foggy veldt
#

just migrated my minecraft account :D maybe in 8 years somebody will try to hack my microsoft account to get my migration cape

mental meadow
#

god thing you have 2FA now 😄

vernal moth
#

I love it when apis work

void void
#

github?

novel horizon
#

Huh, nice

vernal moth
#

yeah

#

the open collective api works just fine

magic river
#

It didn't work though?

mental meadow
#

I hope the people that sponsor me now don't stop and move to paper lol

novel horizon
#

Was just interesting, but I get it

void void
#

I have no clue how graphql works

#

but could that be limiting it to the first 0 results?

#

hello i want to have the paper 1.8.8 source code link

vernal moth
#

yeah I was dum

#

just realized

mental meadow
void void
vernal moth
#

uff and githubs graphql api doesn't support anno access

#

wtf

mental meadow
#

Anno Access sounds like a Anno 1800 DLC Ubisoft would release

void void
golden gust
#

Yes

#

Read the readme

#

or, just download it from the downloads legacy page

magic river
#

TIL the PS4 version of Minecraft was stuck on the old 4J Studios version for 2 years after everyone else moved to Bedrock

void void
golden gust
#

Don't ping

#

yes.

void void
magic river
#

wtf is anno access?

#

Oh, anon

tribal flicker
#

It is actually impossible to make rank names textured without looking like you copied origin realms

#

basically trade marked

limber knotBOT
#

I mean, just make them different lol

untold copper
#

btw mini hi hru

vernal moth
#

POC kinda works

#

ignore the colors and the background

gusty lance
vernal moth
#

yes!

void void
#

oh hey, it's me

#

:P

#

Does it cache the sponsors list or does it just fetch the list every X minutes?

vernal moth
#

it literally executes two graphql requests in your browser 😄

void void
#

ooh

#

so the github thing doesn't need authentication?

vernal moth
#

it does

#

but I used an token without any scopes, for a dummy account

#

soooo hopefully its fine?

void void
#

Apparently GH's graphql v4 api has a rate limit of 5k "points" per hour

waxen panther
#

JT moment

void void
mental meadow
#

the background still needs to be better

#

smh

vernal moth
#

lol

#

did you do the last one in AI?

mental meadow
#

I don't remember let me checck

#

Ah Chew made it

#

But I can try

#

just need to tell / give me the icons

vernal moth
#

idk what to use

twin lagoon
#

needs more font awesome

swift sentinel
#

If I use an Apex server how many gigs of ram should I choose to run these mods like mob heads, land claims and cross platform?

gusty lance
#

depends on how many players you have

left swift
#

600

#

Gb

void void
#

JOIN THE DUCK ARMY, TOGETHER, WE WILL RAID DISCORD!!!!!!!

left swift
#

@duck Sadge

full rune
#

ducc

austere ivy
#

no raiding discord please, but I do appreciate duck pics

#

here is my contribution of my duck

left swift
#

What's duck gonna do now that tuinity is gone PepeHands poor furry duck Sadge

vernal moth
#

write github actions they said

#

test them locally with act they said

golden gust
#

kek

vernal moth
#

I guess we gonna test on github then!

#

1.8

#

lmfao

warm anchor
austere ivy
left swift
#

Then delete it

golden gust
#

it tried to download a dependency from somewhere and when tryna grab the metadata it got a web page

heady spear
#

@minor badge getting my second dos imorgon, then I’ll tour Sverje and let everyone meet me 😎

#

Actually never been this excited over an injection before lol

twin lagoon
left swift
#

The next injection is gonna feel even better 😵‍💫

magic river
#

TIL there was originally a deal with Lego and Mojang to make a Brickcraft game

heady spear
twin lagoon
#

henlo

#

have you fixed the bug you were trying to fix

magic river
#

The project was cancelled in late 2011 or early 2012 and Lego considered buying Mojang in order to complete it when notch made that tweet but then Microsoft stepped in with a $2 billion offer and Lego wasn't sure Minecraft was worth that much

heady spear
#

Yes, at 2:30am

twin lagoon
austere ivy
#

epic late night coding moments

plucky sparrow
magic river
#

I'm sure Microsoft consider it one of the best purchases they ever made

golden gust
#

don't ping

#

update the repo, beyond that, glhf

left swift
#

What a world we would live in if Lego owned minecraft instead

#

World peace

#

No more world hunger

#

No more wars

#

Everyone's rich

plucky sparrow
#

a Steve has fallen into the river

left swift
#

My parents love me

#

Such a dream

magic river
#

Minecraft was nominated for the 2013 Kids' Choice Awards for Favorite App, but lost to Temple Run. It was nominated for the 2014 Kids' Choice Awards for Favorite Video Game, but lost to Just Dance 2014.

#

This just confirms kids are dumb 😛

left swift
#

Nah awards are rigged

wide chasm
#

Well, if this is mobile app specifically, MC PE in 2013 wasn't as much on par as BE now is with JE, so it wasn't the greatest. But those other two neither, so...

peak dirge
simple karma
#

Bruh some shit server flexes with paper anti x-ray (pretending to be custom made xDD)

warm anchor
#

do yourself a favor and dont use tiktok, that place is addictive and not good for health dedrie

left swift
#

Imagine getting addicted to tiktok

simple karma
solid sapphire
simple karma
#

Algorithm knows what I like but this tiktok was a false positive

golden gust
#

meanwhile all my fave people get yeeted from the platform

magic river
#

Social media is bad for your health

simple karma
#

India is huge

solid sapphire
warm anchor
simple karma
#

Says on social media

#

xD

left swift
#

XDDD

safe mason
#

im so confused over this oracle cloud free tier thingy, my trial expired and my instance got terminated, i backed up the boot volume just in case but its still alive so ig i dont need the backup. when i try and make a new instance using the existing boot volume it just tells me "You cannot create a VM.Standard.A1.Flex because you have reached your limit. Upgrade to a paid account."

simple karma
#

Oh btw

solid sapphire
simple karma
#

Someone replied with tiktok that bypassed paper anti xray

#

However I think they just got the seed somehow

magic river
#

Eh, I spend too much time on this chat but it's not some algorithm driving me to stay by either giving me mind numbing comfort posts or rage inducing stupidity to look at

left swift
#

They could also just gave themselves the permission to bypass the xray

safe mason
#

anyone up for some head scratching with oracle again? i know that you guys love those questions :3

simple karma
#
  • who tf uses x-ray when you can use lapis mimkmg for example
warm anchor
#

yeah being on certain Discord channel is your personal choice unlike in tiktok

#

fully agree with amaranth

warm anchor
solid sapphire
safe mason
#

amaranth you can always look at my stupidity sometimes, ig that can keep you here even longer :3

warm anchor
#

is your existing one killed?

safe mason
#

yep

warm anchor
#

double check

safe mason
#

one sec

warm anchor
#

When you are creating it, check if the node you are in is full.

safe mason
warm anchor
#

usually it is lablled it as AD1~3 (certain region only has 1)

safe mason
#

when selecting other domains

warm anchor
#

this window

safe mason
warm anchor
safe mason
#

i love oracle

#

does this help somehow

warm anchor
#

you didnt allocate over 200G did you? that's odd then

safe mason
#

nope

warm anchor
#

and it wont let you make in UK-AD1?

safe mason
#

nope

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i mean i used this to play with some vanilla with friends and we made quite a lot of buildings so i wouldnt want that to go to waste, if there is a way to make a completely new instance and somehow just transfer files from the old boot volume that would be amazing, but one can only dream with oracle

warm anchor
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you can probably nog their support, I know someone did that PepeLa

safe mason
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yeah i think that's the best idea

warm anchor
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but I dont get why it wouldnt let you or that error message is wrong

safe mason
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perhaps it doesnt allow me to make a different shape because of limitations

warm anchor
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when I remake mine, I didnt have issue, it tells me AD-2 is full so I switch to AD1 and worked

safe mason
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did you just use the boot volume to make a new instance out of it?

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i'll just contact support :3

warm anchor
safe mason
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thank you eternity i will rate your assistance 5 stars, keep up the good work, your pr work is amazing

warm anchor
chrome cosmos
chrome cosmos
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tiiktok is banned on india btw

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so i cant veiw

magic river
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Not if you use the latest Paper and configure it correctly, seeds should be basically impossible

vernal moth
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seedcracking is way harder on paper as we can set seeds for individual features

golden gust
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you're probs too young for that to mean anything to you anyways

warm anchor
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@ leaf next patch when

safe mason
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I- I found the solution.

untold copper
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wut

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ticktock is banned in India

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since when

warm anchor
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snoopa did you live under a rock?

ashen cliff
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Yes.

untold copper
chrome cosmos
untold copper
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New Genshin Version bro!

ashen cliff
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Bro.

safe mason
ashen cliff
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🛌

untold copper
untold copper
chrome cosmos
untold copper
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im only playing for jean the story at this point in time lmao

ashen cliff
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You are already way passed that point.

untold copper
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what point

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👀

ashen cliff
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Where you get to see Jean ever again. kekwhyper

untold copper
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no

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jean is eternal.

ashen cliff
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BS. Even Klee will outlive Jean.

untold copper
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nou

ashen cliff
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Bro. It's a fact.

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Live with it.

untold copper
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ur fat

ashen cliff
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That wasn't very nice.

untold copper
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ur not nice

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jean

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is

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eternal

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:(

chrome cosmos
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DOOM ETERNAL

ashen cliff
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How I sleep knowing Jean will die before Klee: 🛌

untold copper
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die

ashen cliff
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Working on that.

untold copper
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work harder.

ashen cliff
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How is your daily workout going?

untold copper
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im dying

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everything hurts

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i pushed myself too hard yesterday lmao

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so no workout today

ashen cliff
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Bro. You only start working out after the pain starts.

untold copper
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i pushed myself more than usual smh

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its day 86

left swift
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Are you using protein too

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Shakes bars

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Whey protein

untold copper
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no

left swift
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You should be

untold copper
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not really

left swift
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Are you eating extra protein otherwise

untold copper
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not really

left swift
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Ok man

warm anchor
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yes snoopa -.-

left swift
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You know what protein is right

untold copper
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yes

left swift
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What I'm talking about isnt like preworkout shit

untold copper
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yes

warm anchor
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snoopa what make you think you can just gain muscle without eating stuff that you know... muscle is made out from

left swift
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Whatever floats ur boat

ashen cliff
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||Snoopa just wakes up, snaps a chickens neck and continues from there. Standard stuff. ||

grave lotus
untold copper
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ez

vernal moth
left swift
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Hey mini

grave lotus
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

warm anchor
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so that's an user error

grave lotus
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true

vernal moth
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its snapshot time

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I think ill actually take a look at this one for once

ashen cliff
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So people don't need to search for it.

warm anchor
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They did revert the mob spawning change right

vernal moth
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uuhm

mossy vessel
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Mfw, the floating rectangle-looking alike dirt on the right is in fact very out of place

vernal moth
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there are plenty of flying blocks

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wtf

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literally unplayable

warm anchor
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Just a little happy mistake Mini

left swift
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That's what my mom said

ashen cliff
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Thank you OTG for this epic meme.

vernal moth
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man, if the world wouldn#t load so slow, I might actually enjoy the landscape

ashen cliff
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Working as expected.

void void
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That's a feature

vernal moth
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cant wait to see the actual snapshot

void void
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for the slow suspense of course

vernal moth
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and all the code changes

warm anchor
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True “vanilla” experience mini

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Chunk loading PepeLa

worn ember
worn ember
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throw some async in there

austere ivy
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race condition loadtimes

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as much as I don't wanna simp for 7 year old minecraft versions, I had to load up 1.12 to access a world and dang, not only was the bootup time 10x faster, but same with the world loading

worn ember
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Welcome to feature creep