general

[uncut steppe]

whats starlight?

[solid sapphire]

?

[red timber]

Ctrl-F in this chat at this point

[uncut steppe]

#starlight-github

hmm

i see

[solid sapphire]

look at the readme?

[red timber]

reading

we don't do that here

[solid sapphire]

i said look

never read

[red timber]

looking

we don't do that here either

[uncut steppe]

shouldnt it be in its own category or sth

[red timber]

no because it's related to paper directly now

[uncut steppe]

when i saw theres a new github channel under paper category, i was like "oh so they started a new fork of paper to take place of it?"

its a mod for Fabric?

a client mod

[red timber]

not only

[uncut steppe]

how is that related to paper

[golden gust]

it's a replacement to the lighting engine

[vernal moth]

It's maintained by one of papers maintainers, and it will be included in paper soon

[golden gust]

in the merge with tuinity, leaf wanted to bring it over

the system is also implemented in tuinity, and will be merged into paper

[uncut steppe]

nice

[topaz mortar]

The only question is if we can expect it to be merged with mc 1.20

[vernal moth]

You could help test it

[tribal flicker]

where would we be without model engine

[red timber]

?

[twin lagoon]

[red timber]

michael pog

you're awake

[twin lagoon]

mikro

[topaz mortar]

I could just use it in production. Need to throw some thoughts together.

[red timber]

starlight works very well

just plugins which want to create fake light sources shit themselves

e.g varlight

(and no, mojang's light blocks are not sufficient)

[golden gust]

I got mojang to add a light block anyways

fix ur ways

WEAK!

[red timber]

no u

[golden gust]

I did ask for a custom lighting layer, or, at least give us a block as a compromise

[red timber]

i need to light up arbitrary blocks still

[tribal flicker]

model engine is just cool plugin cool models

[wispy blade]

let's go

[red timber]

mm ight

[wispy blade]

oh shit hand reveal

[red timber]

ski mask and gloves wen

[tribal flicker]

Yo what is going on here

[wispy blade]

custom models

without using modelengine, like a pleb

[tribal flicker]

Hey I use models without model engine too

Like furniture n stuff, no need for ME for that

just java items wearing on armor stands yes

good luck making actually cool looking bosses without model engine lel, doesn't look like ya wanted to make that though

[ripe oracle]

does exist 1.17 authme?

[nova plume]

bruh

[tribal flicker]

[ashen cliff]

AuthMe.

[ripe oracle]

?

[tribal flicker]

It doesn't exist, no but you won't get any answers for running a cracked server here lmao

[golden gust]

doesn't not exist

[ashen cliff]

Just read their Spigot page.

[nova plume]

is it just me or am i the only person who themes intellij

[golden gust]

darcula is good enough

the inclination to fuck around with different themes and such is just, er... am rather do stuff

[nova plume]

purple best colour

also scuffed kotlin

[cosmic raft]

interesting; what discord library?

[nova plume]

jda

[cosmic raft]

figures

[twin lagoon]

it sure is possible without modelengine

[wispy blade]

did you look at the font bro

[nova plume]

With jda-chewtils

[nova plume]

yea I did

[tribal flicker]

Of course it is, just remake model engine without model engine

[twin lagoon]

correct

[tribal flicker]

reinventing the wheel 😔

[vernal moth]

If you never reinvent, you can never improve

And like, if it's not open source, it doesn't exist for me

[tribal flicker]

For sure. ModelEngine is a liiittlee buggy so I'd assume that is another reason OR remade it

I've actually seen multiple people trying to remake it recently

[vernal moth]

I would never ever even consider using a plugin that I don't have full access to the source code for

And considering I wrote something like model engine like 4 years ago, I can say it's not that hard

[twin lagoon]

the main reason we have our own is to not rely on premium closed source plugins

we've only got like 2 - 3 public plugins

if the most important plugins in your server are closed-source & premium, you're fucked

[vernal moth]

https://gyazo.com/a28cfd775e2fda9e051da8c07a3c4c85

It's super easy

[tribal flicker]

I'm actually surprised you do have any public plugins. I assume like. Essentials or simple stuff like that that just work already

[twin lagoon]

worldedit & worldguard are the only ones

lmao

[tribal flicker]

was gonna be my second guess lol

[vernal moth]

https://gyazo.com/2af5cb46629868abb381e3846e38aea3

[tribal flicker]

wait what

How early could you do this o.o

[vernal moth]

That's just armor stands and items

[twin lagoon]

those aren't resource packs that are used

[vernal moth]

No resource pack

[tribal flicker]

aaah yea, I see

[vernal moth]

Resource packs are for noobs

[tribal flicker]

think it was in like 1.12 or 1.13 you could use custom model data

[twin lagoon]

even then you could probably do resource pack stuff early

[tribal flicker]

resourcepacks are the future 😻

[twin lagoon]

it just never took off because of the loading system

[vernal moth]

They were the future 5 years ago, lmfao

[tribal flicker]

the hell are u meant to do without a resource pack on a server

go play factions or something or what

[twin lagoon]

they've definitely taken off the last year or so

[vernal moth]

But they aren't the future

They were the future in the past

Now they are just the present

[twin lagoon]

the new future is shaders

[vernal moth]

I guess

[twin lagoon]

there's some fucking dope things you can do with them

[vernal moth]

I still need to learn that

[twin lagoon]

like insane stuff, someone made a minimap in vanilla mc with just shaders

[vernal moth]

Do they support compute? Lol

And yeah, I know, shaders can to literally anything

Cause you get access to the world and to every pixel on the screen

[upbeat falcon]

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[twin lagoon]

my main worry about them is GPU compatibility / performance

[red timber]

mmh

[twin lagoon]

https://github.com/bradleyq/shader-toolkit @red timber

[tribal flicker]

I've seen people do cool glowy bits with parts of models thats as cool as I saw it get

[red timber]

i was actually searching for this vrchat thing

[twin lagoon]

vrchat linux in shaders?

[red timber]

one madlad made linux run on top of compute shaders

[twin lagoon]

yes

[void void]

https://blog.pimaker.at/texts/rvc1/

[topaz mortar]

Advantage here you can use mojang mappings during run-time. Wouldn't be possible with public Plugins using nms. Hopefully that will be a common thing after hangar release.

[twin lagoon]

and that

[topaz mortar]

I'm happy that there is a worldedit-adapters fork, that supports Mojang mappings. 😄

[tribal flicker]

I haven't seen anyone do cool stuff with custom fonts yet

I feel like there is a lot of potential I just don't know what yet

[vernal moth]

Plenty people do fun stuff with negative offsets

[tribal flicker]

I've seen people do replacements for the HP bar with it and just bars in general on top of your hotbar

I want to see if you can use a tab overlay with it

I've tried it but it always looks ugly

[topaz mortar]

Iconified lore for item stats.

So simple stuff.

[tribal flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720644608459276320/875233345880084491/unknown.png I gave up really quickly on this

Because I didn't think there was a way to cover the gray overlay

[topaz mortar]

Something like HUD is fun stuff.

[tribal flicker]

I know you can cover the scoreboard I've done that

like the numbers and the gray area

[ashen cliff]

I'm pretty sure you can change the gray to transparent.

And remove the texture for the ping.

Or what is your goal exactly?

[tribal flicker]

u can definitely remove the ping

To be honest, I'm not quite sure, I was just seeing what I can do to make tab stick out and look cool

[ashen cliff]

I mean, it can be replaced with numbers... so probably?
Or just make it transparent.

Also remove the skulls after that.

[tribal flicker]

In the beginning i just wanted a transparent box and the outline of it was a custom font

that would look cool

I did that with scoreboard ages ago but it blocked a bit too much of the screen so i got rid of it

[ashen cliff]

Just play movies on the tablist.

Should be fine.

[tribal flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795355264835649546/825860378218987600/unknown.png

I had this ugly thing

[ashen cliff]

Uf.

[tribal flicker]

but the idea is i mean look, no numbers

and no gray scale

[ashen cliff]

I'd disable that instant.

[tribal flicker]

so I was thinking maybeeee u can do that in tab with some magic

Oh yea I have something a bit less in your face

[low niche]

game panel design i made a few weeks ago

and after a few weeks of work:

any thoughts/feedback?

[ashen cliff]

Now show us how responsive it is.

[low niche]

oh its a quite responsive design

lemme show you on phone

[twin lagoon]

sidebar is way too big

[twin lagoon]

logo should be fucked off

[plucky sparrow]

Why make it smaller

I like the size

[nova plume]

4.2 out of 4?

[solid sapphire]

yes

[twin lagoon]

maybe add some icons to the power buttons

[viral lion]

4.20gb

[twin lagoon]

and probably want to throw all colours used into https://whocanuse.com/

[low niche]

SWAP

[nova plume]

oohh

makes sense

[low niche]

phone design is pretty good too

[plucky sparrow]

I wish you kept the rounded corners tho

[void void]

what's the bulldozer in the bottom right corner of the console for?

[worn ember]

nah looks better without

[plucky sparrow]

maybe clean console

[low niche]

people I showed the design to didnt like it

[low niche]

clear the console

[plucky sparrow]

i actually liked how everything was rounded :(

[worn ember]

well u suk

[low niche]

color palettes were a pain due to tailwindcss

[void void]

is there some sort of tooltip when hovering over that? so people don't have to guess what a button is by clicking on it

[low niche]

yep there is

[vernal moth]

Looking nice

[low niche]

on hover it’ll show “Clear Console”

[vernal moth]

You bored and wanna help design a frontend that will be used by hundred of thousands of users? 😂

I heard hangar could use some help ^^

[worn ember]

lolol mini always recruiting css soldiers

[low niche]

kinda brokey but it works

[low niche]

If you mean me, I’m currently outside, and wont be home for a few hours 😅

[void void]

Hangar lang files are on crowdin right?

[olive marlin]

Mini meant you in general - there's no one who would do design on the hangar at all.

[worn ember]

They value their sanity

[limber knot]

mfw I fixed the gamma of my monitor and now everything looks off :S

[ashen cliff]

MFW I can't tell the TV to give me normal yellows without the fake HDR mode being enabled:

[red timber]

[pallid raptor]

We already knew

:/

They got the Ceist and desist letter from YouTube like a week ago

Baitclick?

What?

What’s baitclick?

[red timber]

ion see anyone laughin

[pallid raptor]

Don’t argue 🤦‍♂️

[red timber]

okay old man

[pallid raptor]

I’m 14

Look at my about me

[red timber]

look @ this dude

[pallid raptor]

Bro stop both of you

@red timber @spring elk

[ashen cliff]

Bruh.

[pallid raptor]

🙄

[red timber]

this guy has some issues lmao

[pallid raptor]

I mean you did sort of start it

[red timber]

how

[pallid raptor]

This

I’m not agreeing with you, Your continuing

Your no better

[red timber]

i mean this guy called me a ret idk

i didn't

[pallid raptor]

Doesn’t matter

Your both as bad as each other

[red timber]

kek alright, if that makes you happy

[native wolf]

Where are the mods at?

[left swift]

If mini wants a frontend just make it work like spigot, look like spigot, perform like spigot, but not be spigot

[ashen cliff]

🛌

[pallid raptor]

Yes

[native wolf]

See, Mini could do that, but would end up rewriting it a few times before even releasing it

[left swift]

[pallid raptor]

Where would minecraft be without world edit 😂

[ashen cliff]

CoreEdit.

[pallid raptor]

No.

[minor badge]

?ban @spring elk No actual grown ups are ableist... 👋

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned DekuReborn#0001 (No actual grown ups are ableist... 👋) [2 total infractions] -- Proximyst#6900.

[left swift]

FastAsyncCoreEdit

[tribal flicker]

FastAsync

[pallid raptor]

Lmao

[tribal flicker]

damn beat me to it

[pallid raptor]

Coming together well

[red timber]

console?

[pallid raptor]

Java on console

[red timber]

huh?

[pallid raptor]

Magic

[red timber]

top left position overlay says otherwise

[pallid raptor]

What does the cords have to do with it?

[heady spear]

wtf is up with this place today

y'all extra dumb

[pallid raptor]

Exactly

[heady spear]

who tf r u

[pallid raptor]

A person who is smart

[golden gust]

https://tenor.com/bqHnw.gif

[pallid raptor]

Wow okay 😭😭

[red timber]

java edition does not have this at all, but bedrock edition does out of the box

[twin lagoon]

@heady spear ew

[worn ember]

BADROCK amirite

[heady spear]

michael go work

[pallid raptor]

Stop trying to sound smart smh

[twin lagoon]

i am

[heady spear]

no

[red timber]

trying?

[heady spear]

mikro doesn't need to try

they know there's no use in trying

[pallid raptor]

He isn’t smart at all in that case

[red timber]

correct

but i happen to know few things here and there

[pallid raptor]

You realise your agreeing with us calling you dumb right?

[red timber]

correct

[heady spear]

i know that you shouldn't put your dick in fire

[red timber]

also true

[pallid raptor]

Or in acid

[void void]

You shouldn't?

oh fuck

[pallid raptor]

Bad for fun time

[pallid raptor]

NOOOOOO

[heady spear]

I am very smart

[pallid raptor]

Time to get the scissors

Too far gone

[red timber]

city is as smart as a brick is

[heady spear]

by java on console, do you mean a java edition server? lol

[pallid raptor]

He isn’t smart enough to figure that out LOL

[red timber]

well that makes more sense

[heady spear]

apparently mikro is dumber than a brick then

cool

[pallid raptor]

Lmao

Always has been

[solid sapphire]

geysermc~?

[pallid raptor]

Mhm

He didn’t know

[red timber]

fun fact i once managed to contribute to geysermc

[solid sapphire]

😎

[pallid raptor]

Doubt

[solid sapphire]

i want to

but my pc cant run the project w/o ding

*deying

*dieing

[red timber]

https://github.com/GeyserMC/Geyser/commits?author=mikroskeem

[solid sapphire]

idk the spelling

[pallid raptor]

Wonder if he edited the read me

[red timber]

added one space to the end yep

[heady spear]

haproxy sexy

[solid sapphire]

guys i found a cursed commit

[pallid raptor]

How come it isn’t linked to your account 👀

[void void]

or like the hacktoberfest contributions: "GeyserMC - an amazing project"

[pallid raptor]

Lol

[solid sapphire]

am i allowed to send a ghub link?

[left swift]

City smells

[red timber]

i didn't even bother dealing with hacktoberfest, getting a free shirt i'd never wear is pointless

[solid sapphire]

yef

https://github.com/PugsMods/WoneWay/commit/fe58a091498eb5d891e351dba0273fd8e6d4d283 great work github!

[heady spear]

I wear it to sleep, or while getting plowed by old Russian men.

[void void]

that is oddly specific

[pallid raptor]

Odly specific

And he beat me to it

[heady spear]

don't ping me with typos

[red timber]

yeah city is correct grammar zone

[void void]

how old are the old russian men?

[pallid raptor]

Okay.

[solid sapphire]

@citemonstret

there

[pallid raptor]

88

[golden gust]

old enough to pass on stories about their fathers times in the war but young enough to rival a drilldo in hammer

[left swift]

Are u an fortnite esports org carpal

[pallid raptor]

No.

That’s a new one too

[left swift]

Bro

Heres a life tip

[golden gust]

hehe, tip

[pallid raptor]

I don’t play fortnite

[left swift]

Dont ping reply to a message directly above yours

[golden gust]

city doesn't want the tip though

He wants the full deal

[pallid raptor]

No

[left swift]

Blocked kid

[quasi valley]

No.

[pallid raptor]

Okay

[left swift]

U 2

[quasi valley]

[left swift]

Fake kenny

[pallid raptor]

😂😂😂😂

Someone’s mad

[golden gust]

Remember the days of being able to chat without having to use the reply function?

[red timber]

ye

[golden gust]

pepper ridge farm remembers

[mental meadow]

what

[pallid raptor]

No I don’t.

[red timber]

remember irc?

[golden gust]

Aurora

[void void]

Back in my day, we used our brains to figure out who we're talking to

[golden gust]

Imma show you my drilldo

[plucky sparrow]

remember when it was just "Quote"

[golden gust]

it has hammer mode

[pallid raptor]

Not anymore.

[void void]

i am scared and intrigued at the same time

[mental meadow]

does it also have drill mode

[left swift]

Ping troll ban

[pallid raptor]

Bet

[twin lagoon]

@mental meadow

[mental meadow]

❤️

[pallid raptor]

It has reverse and normal mode

[mental meadow]

!warn @pallid raptor Stop replying and pinging with every message

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Warned Carpal#1211 (Stop replying and pinging with every message) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.

[pallid raptor]

Bro it’s not a ping every time

[mental meadow]

often enough

[pallid raptor]

Aight

[mental meadow]

it's just annoying

[pallid raptor]

Mk

[heady spear]

@mental meadow hello <33

[mental meadow]

hewwo

[heady spear]

wyd?

[plucky sparrow]

i thought your pfp was from club penguin

[mental meadow]

you didnt answer my dm city :C

[pallid raptor]

It is

[magic river]

pfp

[left swift]

Yo amaranth where is ur summer hat pfp

[pallid raptor]

I got kicked for idleing from my own server

[heady spear]

oh fuck, I was gonna reply after working D:

[golden gust]

dw aurora

he just forgot about you

[left swift]

Typical city

[plucky sparrow]

wat

[waxen panther]

@heady spear get to work 😠

[pallid raptor]

I haven’t got mail on my server :(

[magic river]

You know I probably don't want that image

[left swift]

Why not

[heady spear]

it's a fucking bank holiday you tweaker

[waxen panther]

not in sweden

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[heady spear]

plus I worked all weekend

and I've maxed out my 170h this month

so :DD

[left swift]

Brocc did you finish with those commits

[waxen panther]

wha

what commits

[heady spear]

brocc never finishes

[left swift]

Omg you forgot already

[waxen panther]

WTF

[left swift]

You're past deadline!!!

[untold meadow]

use ur day off to fix interfaces

[heady spear]

I've spent this entire weekend fixing brocc's bugs 😠

[waxen panther]

😠

[heady spear]

and this dude has the audacity to tell me to work

[waxen panther]

yes

xoxoxo

[heady spear]

i am calling ur boss

[plucky sparrow]

brocc is the boss

[waxen panther]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[left swift]

Brocc boss sounds hot

[waxen panther]

yes i am now boss of city

[heady spear]

pls take care of my asana boards

[foggy veldt]

I just realized the taco channel is gone

[left swift]

Submissive and breedable

[heady spear]

interfaces is perfect wdym

[foggy veldt]

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[waxen panther]

true perfect

[heady spear]

don't u dare criticize our baby

[untold meadow]

truly perfect apart from the bits that dont work and let players lose items

[heady spear]

that part is also perfect

[waxen panther]

i think kezz should fix it

personally

[left swift]

Can you make the interface like Facebook

Thanks

[heady spear]

brocc i think u should inhale a thousand farts

with love, city.

[left swift]

Too far

[waxen panther]

i'd rather not.
thank you, broccolai.

[heady spear]

wtf

thank this fist 😠

[golden gust]

City

I just want you to know that deep down

I really fucking detest you

[heady spear]

I love you too ❤️

[golden gust]

❤️

[void void]

that's not a bug, it's a surprise feature

adds a luck element to the game

[untold meadow]

yes it's a trash can disposal system

built-in

[plucky sparrow]

City slander? 🔥

[untold meadow]

city slander very justified

[left swift]

Item sink to keep economy in check

[untold meadow]

the code i was working on friday no longer works bc of his dumb "bug fixes"

[heady spear]

I'll re-add the bugs just for u

[topaz mortar]

CityBugStreet

[twin lagoon]

@untold meadow

[untold meadow]

@twin lagoon

[magic river]

I feel like I haven't posted this in a while

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/826997823786319933/Paper-chan_Optimized.png

[plucky sparrow]

omg @wispy blade I discovered what your name stands for!!!!

[wispy blade]

yooooooooo

[plucky sparrow]

Why did you not tell us????

[quasi valley]

I feel like I haven't posted this in a while

[tribal flicker]

😳

[austere ivy]

Thank you for your contribution, it has been recorded

[golden gust]

Ironically something which has idea in its name translates into something devoid of them

[magic river]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hulu-blackish-l0MYP6WAFfaR7Q1jO

[wispy blade]

my github says otherwise

[worn ember]

shut

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

[warm anchor]

Good morning amaranth

[wind geyser]

[magic river]

Morning

[plucky sparrow]

Good afternoon

[wispy blade]

ok rtp dev

[worn ember]

ok miss i copy paste lines intead of using loops

[plucky sparrow]

dam

Imagine using ‘else’

[void void]

time to make a loopless clear chat plugin

3k lines of chat clearing goodness

[red timber]

why use loops when you can use like

recursion

[ashen cliff]

loopless
Just use go to?

[red timber]

no goto in java

[plucky sparrow]

😔

[ashen cliff]

GraalVM time.

[red timber]

tru

or just write bytecode manually

and abuse jvm goto how much you want

[worn ember]

i'll abuse you

[plucky sparrow]

Please

[magic river]

hrm, just realized Windows 11 doesn't show the clock and such on extra monitors

[vernal moth]

I hope they bring back a bunch of controls for the task bar

It's clearly not done yet

[magic river]

I can't tell if my eyes adjusted to the broken font subpixel hinting or if messing with things in the nvidia control panel fixed it

[warm anchor]

Y’all willingly to be tester for windows

[vernal moth]

It's fine if you actually wanna test stuff?

It's a choice

[tropic flame]

Windows 11 doesn't let you set the taskbar to small size anymore

it's always in chonky mode

[vernal moth]

And I haven't ran windows 12 outside of the an VM

I'll wait for beta

[magic river]

I think all the context menus are drawn by a webview now

[tropic flame]

ah yes, the new context menu which has a "More" button which spawns the old context menu?

[vernal moth]

Which clearly shows it's not done yet

Idk why you ridicule an unfinished product

[magic river]

Nah, I bet the "more" thing stays

Or they just remove the ability to add things to those menus

[tropic flame]

yeah

that's the thing

[plucky sparrow]

No like the issue is that you can’t drag and drop to other apps through the new taskbar

[tropic flame]

it's not unreasonable to think microsoft will let that stay

[plucky sparrow]

Like who in the fucking world decided to not add that

[vernal moth]

Well, we will see

[plucky sparrow]

I’ll personally stab them to death

[tropic flame]

seeing how Windows 10 already has 10 different design languages spanning since 3.1 to 10 itself

[plucky sparrow]

I’m crying in small screen

[warm anchor]

But thats NOT the proper way!

[magic river]

There is still at least one app in Windows 11 that looks like a 3.1 app

I forget what it was though

[plucky sparrow]

what

How else am I supposed to do it then

[void void]

isn't there some random credential screen still left over from 95

in some obscure application

[magic river]

Yeah, there is some 95 hiding in there somewhere still

[tropic flame]

some control panel related app

[vernal moth]

That's the thing: is it really worth spending development time on that?

Cost benefit wise, that's a big L

[magic river]

XP was mostly wiped out by Vista and 7 stuff but 10 didn't update all of those things and 11 doesn't update everything from 10

[tropic flame]

if they're introducing yet a new appearance to the system, shouldn't they make it consistent?

[plucky sparrow]

They should redesign the task manager

It doesn’t look good with the new design

[tropic flame]

mspaint still has the Ribbon interface from Windows 7

but hey, Paint3D i guess

[plucky sparrow]

Right clicking on an empty space in the task bar won’t show the task manager option anymore

You have to right click the damn windows icon

[plucky sparrow]

They like to create a new design for each menu

[tropic flame]

the 95 is in the sound settings LMAO

[magic river]

I can't turn on memory integrity because of some huawei driver I'm not using but can't figure out how to remove and the fake keyboard g-hub uses for the programmable keys on my headset and mouse

[tropic flame]

yeah

[plucky sparrow]

No they redesigned the store, the notification menu & the settings panel

The new store looks really good

[tropic flame]

oh did they?

[plucky sparrow]

Shame it’s still as crappy as it has always been

[magic river]

iirc memory integrity is one of the features Microsoft said is why they cut off older processors that would technically work

[plucky sparrow]

Yes they did

The new settings panel is way better

[tropic flame]

i mean i know they redesigned the settings panel but the Control Panel is still there

[plucky sparrow]

They’ll eventually get rid of it

[tropic flame]

eventually

it's still there in windows 11 though

[plucky sparrow]

Yeah

[magic river]

They'll never get rid of it

[plucky sparrow]

I honestly thought they would’ve killed the control panel earlier

[magic river]

It's just something most people won't ever need to use

Especially with the improvements to the Settings in 11

[tropic flame]

i bet they don't remove it not because of backwards compatibility but because they fired all their old developers and the new ones they've got don't know shit about the codebase

[plucky sparrow]

They are getting rid of it

[tropic flame]

so if they try to remove it they'll break shit

like please, what were the kernel improvements between 7 and 10?

[magic river]

Their old stuff is really hairy code which has existed so long and has so many users basically every behavior of it is a part of the ABI at this point

[tropic flame]

besides fast shutdown, which is essentially telling your PC to hibernate instead of shutting down (wow great deal)

[magic river]

That's why they make whole new things instead of trying to update the old ones

[plucky sparrow]

Like look

[magic river]

Look at Windows Terminal, they spent like 3 years trying to make the old school console work better but got to a point where they were breaking things too badly

[plucky sparrow]

And many of the control panel options will just redirect you to the settings panel

[magic river]

So instead they hooked a pipe up to it and bypass it entirely now

Oh they also open sourced it if you think you can do better 😛

[plucky sparrow]

I must say that the new settings app looks awesome

[wispy blade]

man

why must playerinteract event fire twice 😔

[plucky sparrow]

😔

[olive marlin]

Wait till you have it fire 3 times

[wispy blade]

well yeah

thing is

i need to store 2 different clicked blocks temporarily

[ashen cliff]

Wait till you have it fire 8 times because you died on a slab.

[summer rivet]

can someone help me joining my server without timeout?

[warm anchor]

I don’t think anyone can join fast enough

[summer rivet]

wdym?

[limber knot]

it's not easily possible to implement a reliable interact event with how the game works right now :S

currently it might fire any times from 0 to 3 iirc

[potent fossil]

wtf 👀 https://github.com/papermc/paper and press .

TIL, looks like old news tho so y'all prob already know

[void void]

That's cool

afaik you can also swap github.com for github.dev

[mossy vessel]

I saw the tweet some time ago when they dropped that shit

[potent fossil]

that's all it does

github{.com -> .dev}, same repo path

will be web editor

[worn ember]

very cool

[red timber]

HOT

[left swift]

😳

[untold copper]

day #84 of trying to get abs: did a 50 minute full body strength and conditioning workout because why not

[worn ember]

but does it blend

[left swift]

Can we blend ded

[worn ember]

My balls of steel cannot be blended

[limber knot]

can? certainly. Would you however?

[ashen cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHdnh-56TUM

[void void]

Hai!

is there a place i can report bug?

[minor badge]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues

[quasi valley]

It enables synchronous chunk writes

[magic river]

It gets rid of the chunk save queue

It's a dumb thing, don't do it

[quasi valley]

No, then it would be called "disable/enable-chunk-writes"

[magic river]

No, it would block the main thread to save them immediately

[shy oriole]

why multiverse-core doesn't work in paper 1.8.9?

yes

[void void]

1. There is no paper 1.8.9 (or any server software for 1.8.9)
2. 1.8 is not supported here

[shy oriole]

what?

[silver nexus]

That’s the first thing I read

[shy oriole]

i have a 1.8.9 paper server @void void

[void void]

I highly doubt that

the client was updated to 1.8.9, but afaik the server wasn't (and stayed at 1.8.8)

[shy oriole]

it's in a free host

idk

[worn crest]

noah is right, no 1.8.9 server version

[worn ember]

You're welcome

.9 was only a client version

[void void]

how can i get a older version of 1.12.2 paper

[wispy blade]

use the downloads api

[void void]

where is that

[marble lark]

that's... not very reliable

[wispy blade]

well it's interaction packets

[void void]

what paper version patched the rollback dupe?

[marble lark]

how are there this many dupes in the base game

I've genuinely lost count by this point

[void void]

let me count

hmm

182 public dupes

817 private ones

[tribal flicker]

What ya'll use host your resourcepack on

I keep getting rate limited on dropbox and upgrading apparently doesn't increase the limit

[wispy blade]

recommend smth like s-ul.eu

[void void]

or smth like https://mc-packs.net/

[tribal flicker]

I bet they got some rate limit of 0

I can definitely try it, easier than two accounts every day

on shitbox

[wispy blade]

iirc dropbox doesn't like getting proxied

[tribal flicker]

Proxied?

[wispy blade]

i mean you're technically routing the download through your server to someone's minecraft client

[ashen cliff]

The client downloads the pack directly.

[tribal flicker]

hm the upload button on mc-packs does not work lmao

i lied

[potent fossil]

sir, you literally host a webserver for ptero

host it yourself

smh my head

[tribal flicker]

i have absolutely no idea what i am doing

[potent fossil]

i know

[tribal flicker]

I messed up the other resourcepack by not making it a direct link

xd

[solid sapphire]

gn papre mc

[potent fossil]

bye

[wispy blade]

bye

[twin lagoon]

@potent fossil

[wispy blade]

hi simple

[potent fossil]

henlo michal and nimio

[tribal flicker]

the bandwidth 😫

[potent fossil]

cloudflare 😀

it'll cache it and reduce load on the dedi

[twin lagoon]

google cloud storage + cloudflare + cloudflare page rule for max caching

$0.02/mo

[potent fossil]

michal boss mode insert happy clap bc nitro expired

[twin lagoon]

get fucked

[potent fossil]

i know

in other news i just got an update, my grandma is doing better from her stroke yesterday. so that was a big relief to hear

not sure what the after release procedures will be though

[wispy blade]

hope she makes a good recovery

[potent fossil]

Thanks for the good wishes guys, so far so good

Didn't mean to derail the convo here, y'all are just some of the only people I can tell :p

[vernal moth]

It's fine :)

I like to think that we are a big friendly family in here

[wispy blade]

man, i love it when the garbage collector kills the objects i wanna access

[potent fossil]

hold refs to them then

[vernal moth]

It's like friends, if you don't wanna loose them, just hold them very tight 😂

But not too tight, else they might start leaking

[wispy blade]

yeah well they're constantly referenced due to them being in a 2d array that i'm comparing against

[potent fossil]

if that's the case they wouldn't be getting GC'd

so something is wrong

[wispy blade]

probably

but i'm getting an NPE that there isn't en entity in the block i'm getting xd

[potent fossil]

so what exactly is in your 2D array

[wispy blade]

81 Tiles

which have a block and an entity

[potent fossil]

hmm not sure if you hold ref to a tile if it will keep the actual block and entity ref'd...i would like to think so, but, you never know with MC (unless you do, which I don't)

[wispy blade]

specifically, a block and a piece, which contains an entity

[wide chasm]

Just to get the obvious out the way, you're using a direct reference, right, not a weak reference or phantom reference?

[wispy blade]

i have no clue tbh

[wide chasm]

Then it's probably a strong reference

[wispy blade]

wait it was a mistake on my end

[worn ember]

are you the mistake?

[plucky sparrow]

always has been

[wispy blade]

now this is cool

[wide chasm]

Is that... eh... what's it called again... shogi?

[wispy blade]

yes

[wide chasm]

Nice

[unborn jay]

AsyncWorldEdit or FAWE?

[mossy vessel]

I'm following this for quite some days now 👀

[wispy blade]

following what 👀

[mossy vessel]

Tho I had to look up what shogi is lol

[wispy blade]

oh, you mean my project?

[void void]

Looks cool

[wispy blade]

it's the only shogi plugin in the world atm

i still have no idea on how to make the board persistent at all

[wide chasm]

If you have to pick between those two, FAWE

[worn crest]

activeer windoows 🤔

[marble lark]

funnee

[marble lark]

it usually refers to 1 of 2 things

one is some sort of chess

the other is shogicp, Pocketmine's original creator

[wispy blade]

microsoft won't let me 😔

[muted barn]

#869651180698099732 very nice addition.

[cunning raft]

@waxen panther ^^

[muted barn]

?

[waxen panther]

Very nice addition (jroy to the moderation team)

[muted barn]

Oh yes, that too

[ashen cliff]

Daily reminder that AuthMe has support: https://posili.me/i/2021-08-30_21-43-57.png

[supple briar]

hello, If I allow login up to version 1.15.2 with viabackwards, will I run into undesired problems?
like netherit
because netherit was added in version 1.16, how would a player who entered with 1.15.2 see it?

[void void]

pretty sure viabackwards replaces unknown blocks and items with something that looks like it

[peak ginkgo]

I checked, it displays as obsidian.

[supple briar]

ow

So you're saying it won't be a problem?

[peak ginkgo]

It'll be weird lookin', but it'll work.

[magic river]

People on 1.15 won't get any netherite or upgraded tools/armor

I bet it just downgrades the tools and armor to diamond

[ashen cliff]

It shows them as diamond, yeah.

[peak ginkgo]

spot on lol

"minecraft:netherite_chestplate": {
      "id": "minecraft:diamond_chestplate",
      "name": "1.16 Netherite Chestplate"
},

[magic river]

Does it just show them as diamond or do they actually change to diamond when they get them?

[peak ginkgo]

The server knows its netherite, the file I'm in is just what it shows as to the client

[magic river]

Hmm, does it use attributes to tweak mining speed and damage and such so the netherite tools actually make sense or does it just let the client and server desync on those?

[supple briar]

the healthiest decision would be to only allow 1.17?

[ashen cliff]

AFAIK we don't.

[magic river]

Like if I had a netherite pickaxe and gave it to you, you'd see it as diamond but if you gave it back it would be netherite for me still?

[peak ginkgo]

Yes if you can, that's the best solution for everyone

[peak ginkgo]

Yeah, you'd see it as netherite in my hand and everything

[magic river]

But then if you tried to mine with it things would get weird

[peak ginkgo]

I have no clue how it handles mining

iirc diamond and netherite have the same mining speed anyway?

[magic river]

I'm assuming if you mine the "obsidian" block it actually gives you obsidian though, right?

[peak ginkgo]

It'll drop like an obsidian, look like an obsidian, but if you asked a plugin it's Netherite.

[ashen cliff]

It's just remapped for you in packets aka. server mechanics don't care.

[magic river]

Oh, so they get weird stacking there then

And weirdness with recipes

[supple briar]

what about 1.16.4/5?
Wouldn't it be less of a problem to use 1.17 and allow up to 1.16.4/5?

because players say "not everyone's computer is powerful enough to open 1.17"

[peak ginkgo]

I don't believe that completely

Performance mods are actually BETTER for 1.17

[magic river]

Unless they don't support GL 3

But that would mean they have an Intel iGPU from like 2013

[supple briar]

i trust DeJay,
I will only allow 1.17.x entries. I hope users don't experience performance issues

we don't live in europe, tech gadgets are pretty expensive here :<

anyway, if you know any plugins that boost FPS, can you recommend them?

[wispy blade]

plugins boosting fps

[plucky sparrow]

i mean they can

just make it remove the world around you

free fps

[wispy blade]

TRUE

hi dap ❤️

[plucky sparrow]

hi noami 🧡

[olive marlin]

Plugins - unlikely. Mods for your players - definitely! https://gist.github.com/LambdAurora/1f6a4a99af374ce500f250c6b42e8754

[void void]

can paper servers go 24/7?

[wispy blade]

yeah

if using the correct garbage collection flags

.flags

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[vernal moth]

Go to the website and scrrrooooool down

Or use the API

Or just delete your message

That's fine too

[worthy zealot]

i send paper-help

[nova plume]

lmao

[wispy blade]

in today's episode of naomi code: this beauty

[ashen cliff]

Very nice.

[wispy blade]

Krusic approved. Day can't get better.

2 lines below you got this

[rocky scroll]

I want to send a pic of my kitty

[wispy blade]

@cosmic raft could you review this person's kitty?

[magic river]

[rocky scroll]

[coarse lily]

There's a channel for that apparently#adorable-pets

[wispy blade]

yeah but not everybody has access

[minor badge]

Only the most pristine kitties

[coarse lily]

Oh yeah I can't type in there.

[fossil patio]

is my kitten not pristine :(

[coarse lily]

Probably for the best.

Roles are for quitters!

[minor badge]

gotta send Kash a DM, paul

he is the kitty jury

[fossil patio]

time for void to be judged then

[rocky scroll]

Can I send him my kitty?

[fossil patio]

also, my name is michael (check the name tag)

[cedar spade]

MichaelBGD

[minor badge]

interesting choice of username

[wispy blade]

java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "xyz.mrsherobrine.ShogiCraft.shogi.Piece.getEntity()" because the return value of "xyz.mrsherobrine.ShogiCraft.shogi.Tile.getPiece()" is null ah yes, NullPointerExceptions, my favourite kind of Exceptions

[minor badge]

psst
@DefaultQualifier(NonNull.class) + @Nullable

[wispy blade]

thing is, it can't be null

[void void]

Yet it is

[wispy blade]

yeah, idk why

[minor badge]

then whats this

[void void]

Magic

[magic river]

If you used the annotation your IDE would tell you where you did it wrong

[wispy blade]

annotations are for losers /s

[rocky scroll]

I cant send him my kitty 😦

[wispy blade]

F

[void void]

DMs disabled?

[rocky scroll]

yep, friendship too lol

[wispy blade]

let's see, if i edit my null check maybe it'll work

cuz it was actually a dumb null check

[wispy blade]

what i meant is that if a tile has a piece, it has to have an entity but i misunderstood the error (as always)

[royal kernel]

Its so fun when your whole world corrupts

[wispy blade]

actually kinda happened to me earlier

[royal kernel]

Did you have a backup of it?

[wispy blade]

no, it wasn't that bad

got some ghost armor stands the server literally couldn't see, but they were present in the chunk

mcaselector helped :)

[royal kernel]

lol My whole world for some reason just reset itself

It conveniently happened RIGHT after I took a backup

[wispy blade]

tomorrow i can go and implement capturing pieces, and then check legal moves (pain)

probably gotta finish all the textures etc too D:

[peak ginkgo]

just summon an end crystal i thought

i'll answer in #paper-dev

[short yarrow]

anyone familiar with javascript? i'm clearing printing an object and it shows the value of a property as not null, but when i print out that property it's null. anyone know what's up?

[heady spear]

@twin lagoon ur a stink

[restive thicket]

:O

[novel horizon]

All galaxies explode

I think you just can't, why would you

[olive marlin]

You can. You loose all the recipes and crap though.

[royal kernel]

Has anyone here used BSD

for minecraft servers

[novel horizon]

I just did it and it said that it failed disabling the datapack.

tfw no paper stickers

i gotta join eternity server probably 👀

[royal kernel]

The island is pretty nice

[warm anchor]

I have stickers ready but it falls through and I am scared to bring it up coz the dev teams are busy

[novel horizon]

Yeah those devs just doing dev stuff

[solid sapphire]

https://www.jetbrains.com/careers/ 👀

ah yes

"jetBrainer"

i now will refer to all jetbrains employees as jetbrainers

[cunning raft]

when do you ever refer to jetbrain employees

[solid sapphire]

angry pings when intellij breaks

i mean when i have a question

@TotalyLegitJBEmployee when will idea 69.96.420 release?

shitty isp momenbt

[novel horizon]

wth

[magic river]

This is why everything should use TLS

[solid sapphire]

where was the document i had to sign to never be born?

[magic river]

Also DoH

[solid sapphire]

never figured how to do it

[serene bolt]

your ISP hijacks sites to display advertisements? wtf

[solid sapphire]

yeah

crappy af

[novel horizon]

like wtf tho

[solid sapphire]

the worst part is im fckign paying them

[magic river]

Use Firefox and you should have DoH by default

[solid sapphire]

cant

[magic river]

Dunno how to do it at an OS level and I don't think Chrome supports it?

[solid sapphire]

google has infecte dme

[novel horizon]

hmm just 129/mo instead of 549/mo

[solid sapphire]

it did in windows tho

[serene bolt]

chrome supports it if your system / network dns resolver supports it, but you can specify it manually in chrome

[magic river]

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/https-everywhere/gcbommkclmclpchllfjekcdonpmejbdp?hl=en

[solid sapphire]

still i have a tv which i can watch cricket(not that i watch it)

[serene bolt]

chrome://settings/security, scroll down to the bottom and enable secure dns, then pick a provider (cloudflare, etc)

[serene bolt]

I don't see it on yours :O

is it some... region based feature

that's kinda weird

[solid sapphire]

no im 99% sure i had it on windows

[serene bolt]

what about chrome://flags and enabling the "Secure DNS" flag

[solid sapphire]

not in unavailable too

[serene bolt]

I have no idea :\

you could install a DoH client on your system I guess so everything isn't being tampered by your ISP

[solid sapphire]

yeah

[magic river]

lol, just played a video of a pissed off cat and my cat came flying out of the kitchen looking for it

He's prowling around the room trying to find it

[ashen cliff]

Play an autotuned cat to it.

[solid sapphire]

yk what f*ck it im gonnna live on mobile data for a while

ohno ill loose my p-aradise of no phone calls then

and ill have to upgrade my data plan of 200mb

[worn crest]

Whus I have 750mb but upgrade to 5gb

[copper torrent]

Hey guys I have a question for you if you know the answer i'd really appreciate it.

My server pulls the docker container image for about 4 minutes. When it finally pulls it after 4 minutes, the server starts like normal. But what is causing the container image to be so slow?

It's a rise-2 from OVH. I have 18G allocated to the docker container, and only 14 on the actual minecraft server (4g heap)

[novel horizon]

You really don't need to put that msg in completely different discords when you already asked in ptero lol

We don't know why, check logs, 18G of RAM is quite a lot, unless you have tons of players, it's useless pretty much

[solid sapphire]

i tried to make my pug a sticker

wonder if i stil l can climb coconut trees

hahah i still can

now time to cuta few leaves to make a greenscreen which is actually gren

[woven oar]

pog

[wispy blade]

knockback is client side iirc

[solid sapphire]

gets banned for suggesting "ha%#^"

ah yes uidai and 112 is in my google contacts for some reason

hello 112 im out of coffee can you bu ysome for me?

for all of you, 112 is like 911

but india edition

[wispy blade]

or NL edition

[solid sapphire]

or that

[worn ember]

112 is emergency number here. It's only active during storms and code red stuff

[solid sapphire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/112_(emergency_telephone_number)

here its like 911

[ashen cliff]

We redirect 911 to 112 anyway.

[golden gust]

Is there a number for code browns?

[wispy blade]

i think you can dial 112 to in any EU country and it'll redirect to that country's emergency services

[worn ember]

69

[worn ember]

Yes this. Idk why the news always mentions "the number 112 is active" during a storm or something cuz it should always be active lol

[wispy blade]

lmfao

yea

[worn ember]

Dum dum news people

[golden gust]

In the UK, 999, 112, and 911, are all redirected to the same place here

911 was added because of american media \o/

[solid sapphire]

code brown?

what?

[golden gust]

eeerrr...

google it

I dare you

[wispy blade]

shitstorm

[ashen cliff]

AFAIK here, adding anything after 112/113/911 so like 112412350239, would still go to 112.
Since you know, panic and all that.

[solid sapphire]

.google code brown

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://store.steampowered.com/app/930640/Code_Brown/

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[solid sapphire]

wait

[ashen cliff]

Gotem.

[golden gust]

Not in here...

It basically means having shit yourself

[solid sapphire]

k

[golden gust]

10am, and I've already been up for 12 hours, and I feel like d e a t h

[mental meadow]

Mh, maybe because you have been up for 12 hours?

[golden gust]

I mean, I felt bad before that

Leaning over causes my eye to hurt

Well, bending over, more fun to say it like that

Guys, I have a drinking problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl4plPGRG8o

[wispy blade]

not worse than kacper

[solid sapphire]

everyone has a drinking problem

except the drink is water

remember these times?

[plucky sparrow]

no

[solid sapphire]

whne 69% will last you days?

[vernal moth]

With how much screen on time?

[plucky sparrow]

^^

[vernal moth]

This is still decent

[plucky sparrow]

Maybe he has this phone

[solid sapphire]

nope

i have an XT1033

and it looks like my sim wont work in it lol

as there seems to be no 3g coverage here

[nova plume]

i have an iphone 6s that lasts 2 hrs from 100% charge with constant use

[solid sapphire]

ded batt ig

[vernal moth]

My tablet is a whole different story

Less screen on time, so more time since last charge

[vernal moth]

Cat doesn't use his phone ^^

[solid sapphire]

guessed that

[nova plume]

haha

[solid sapphire]

lol

onho

ping

[plucky sparrow]

Why is your ppi so low

[golden gust]

That was an image I yoinked from somewhere, idk where

[plucky sparrow]

Oh ok

I need a new iPad 😔

The battery barely lasts three hours anymore

[nova plume]

my new ipad is coming today actually

[plucky sparrow]

I’m depressed

shush

[solid sapphire]

kool

[nova plume]

lol

[solid sapphire]

i will reach that peak if i ever figure out how to make calls from my pc.

[golden gust]

VOIP

Google offers it if you're in a compatible country

[solid sapphire]

nah