have you tried googling it first
#general
wispy blade
void void
yes
its a driver problem
but when i dont have the nvidia driver
its not crashing at all
ancient bolt
take a backup first for safety and good practice
ancient bolt
correct
void void
Den i have a Process crashed with exit code -1073740791 code
i used DDU tool
to delete my driver
so i had no NVidia driver
and my minecraft runned super good
now i downloaded the driver and i get the error (Process crashed with exit code -1073740791)
olive marlin
Read #announcements - there's DFU spam that's safe-ish to ignore.
lean kiln
DFU 
magic nebula
I would just like to insist that my name color is cool, ok have a great weekend
ancient bolt
it's not tiffany
wispy blade
don't you just hate it when you forgot your had your event registration commented out?
ancient bolt
remote debug, stop at a breakpoint, call your event registration manually
void void
Can anyone help me with that problem maybe?
ancient bolt
ezpz
wispy blade
friendly reminder this is not minecraft client support, but this might help: https://minecrafthopper.net/help/exit-code/code-1073741819/
chunks are auto-upgraded, so it's fine
not sure how the conversion process works
olive marlin
Don't.
It was noticeable when going through the flattening.
Now it's not worth doing, since it's a long downtime.
Apparently wasn't in #announcements but temporary #❗-1-17 update channel: <#❗-1-17 message>
magic river
HVCI is apparently why Microsoft is cutting off relatively new CPUs that are otherwise more than fast enough to run Windows 11
Although my CPU has the MBEC feature this needs to run well
That page even says Kaby Lake works with it on Windows 10
little frost
just so they can be more predatory and have control over what is running on the computer you supposedly own?
vernal moth
Wat
golden gust
I mean, microsoft is seemingly tryna hammer hard on security given that their OS is pretty much known for, well, not
ancient bolt
modern windows is so much more secure than the memes make it seem
memes haven't caught up since the xp and vista days
best way to make modern windows insecure is install third party security tools tbh
magic river
People think the lack of Kaby Lake might be a driver thing since drivers have to be modified to work in an HVCI environment
marble lark
modern windows is so much more secure than the memes make it seem
from what I remember it earned that reputation for not having the same security model than Linux systems have
which is odd but eh
magic river
The NT permission model is certainly more complicated but also way more powerful
And for sandboxing and verification and other things that are more behind the scenes Windows is either equal to or superior to Linux on most of it
marble lark
really? I found Windows to be way easier to navigate than Linux almost all the time
only downside is no bash on Windows
which is easily solved by installing git anyway
magic river
Linux is users, groups, and 4 octets (only 3 of which you usually do anything with)
Windows is RBAC
marble lark
ah'
to be honest the only reason I use VMs is to compile OS specific code anyway
otherwise Windows is usually enough for me
magic river
The Windows model is actually kind of like Bukkit permissions 😛
Users, groups, and permission nodes
marble lark
I often used OP Levels in Bukkit instead of the actual permission system so I can't say xd
yeah leave it to me to not use the proper API
magic river
Right, you can get more fine grained than a single user or single group on a file via ACLs
golden gust
Role based makes sense, i guess
That's one area where linux kinda lacks but it's part of the whole ecosystem BS
plucky sparrow
Windows is way easier to navigate than macOS and many Linux distros
magic river
But it's still just read/write/execute access, RBAC is meant to be higher level than that
marble lark
Windows is way easier to navigate than macOS and many Linux distros
^^^^^
golden gust
Like, rm does a rm and if you have perms to modify the directory you can delete the file
marble lark
100% the filesystem on windows is way less confusing
plucky sparrow
Also Windows multitasking and window management is the best
golden gust
the filesystem on linux makes sense if you bother doing some reading up on what it represents
you mean windowing features they literally ripped off macOS and linux DEs?
magic river
RBAC would actually have a separate delete permission instead of the execute on a directory meaning you can delete its children
Windows window management is nothing special
marble lark
makes sense yeah but much harder to learn
plucky sparrow
you mean windowing features they literally ripped off macOS and linux DEs?
which features did they rip off macOS?
marble lark
not entirely sure what you mean by window management
golden gust
the split screen view thing
marble lark
all 3 are mostly the same in my experience
golden gust
multiple desktops has also been a normal feature outside of literally every other OS out there
marble lark
neither is better than the other
magic river
Aero Snap
golden gust
linux had had multiple virtual desktops early as all shit
plucky sparrow
I refer to easily dragging windows to the right and it becoming split screen, the maximise button actually maximising the window and not entering full screen etc
golden gust
I mean, the full screen is weird but hardly an issue
plucky sparrow
Overall imo working on Windows is definitely smoother than on macOS
it is an issue
golden gust
hold the maximise button and you can select the side
magic river
Maximize being changed to full screen is an annoying thing in macOS, yeah
marble lark
I mean, the full screen is weird but hardly an issue
never said it was
magic river
But their maximize was never really maximize before that either, it was "full size or maximize, whichever is smaller"
golden gust
Theres multiple parties in this convo...
plucky sparrow
You can't run macOS without installing a 3rd party window manager
golden gust
you never said it was but the dap basically did
I tried using a 3rd party window manager and they where all kinda shit, ngl
But, I mean, I work on a 27" screen so maximising anything is generally stupid for me, tbqh
magic river
I don't usually want things side-by-side anyway
golden gust
bsd fork
plucky sparrow
i maximise everything because i have a 21inch screen
golden gust
unix is more set of principles than anything else
marble lark
ah
golden gust
Like, bsd and linux aren't really decendents of *nix bar in spirit as such
marble lark
this part always confuses me lmao
magic river
BSD is a direct descendant of Unix
marble lark
iirc Darwin is the actual OS and then Apple put a rendering layer on top of it and you get macOS
marble lark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
oh
golden gust
darwin is the kernel
marble lark
yeah sorta what I meant
magic river
XNU is kernel, Darwin is the BSD distro using that kernel
macOS is Darwin plus the UI layer and all their closed source frameworks
golden gust
mfw
marble lark
ah ok
golden gust
today is not my day
marble lark
we all have those days
plucky sparrow
you actually can run darwin on your pc
golden gust
I wish apple would fix their fucking thing
has fun issues with there not being all that many device nodes
magic river
lol, in NeXTSTEP you actually wrote drivers in Obj-C
marble lark
oh right Obj-C
magic river
When Apple took over they updated the Mach port, added FreeBSD code, and replaced the Obj-C API with C++
marble lark
iirc with mac you have to write basically everything in Objective-C if you want access to native stuff
magic river
Swift these days
marble lark
oop
golden gust
apple finally figured that people fucking hate Obj-C
magic river
iirc some of the stuff is actually Swift only and you can access all the Obj-C stuff more or less natively with Swift
marble lark
reminds me of a few days ago when someone joked about an OS where the only language that works is javascript
magic river
Swift is a shinier language on top of the Obj-C runtime, more or less
golden gust
Yea, pretty sure they mainlined swift and Obc-J is basically going the way of the dodo
magic river
Kind of like Kotlin for the JVM
marble lark
Obc-J
marble lark
xd
golden gust
hai, am mini
magic river
Oh jeez, the Linux kernel binary is called vmlinux because BSD got its start as a full OS by writing a new kernel for the Unix port to VAX that took advantage of the virtual memory support so was called Virtual Memory Unix and the binary was vmunix
Fucking 1979
vernal moth
Isn't the biggest security threat basically cause by either: programs not protecting their install directory (hello discord token scanners...) Or just basically ransomware?
Programs on windows don't wanna require admin perms for installing, so it's all a mess
That's something I would like to see msft clean up (without uwp please)
Like, know that in an installation context, you give perms to this one folder, and then never again or something
golden gust
The issue generally is sandboxing and finding the balance between not killing legacy apps and not exposing too much of the env
and, well, everything results in trust of the installer of software
magic river
Amusingly the final BSD release dropped the vmunix naming but that was after Linux took over since it was after the lawsuit
iirc you can using something like sandboxie to isolate applications from each other without needing any changes and without much performance loss
ancient bolt
Oh jeez, the Linux kernel binary is called `vmlinux` because BSD got its start a...
oh damn that's super cool
love history like that
I've always wondered why it was called that
magic river
It basically just hijacks the Win32 API and makes it look like you can write to random places but actually redirects them to per-sandbox locations
It also isolates registry use and such, means you can clean up uninstalled stuff completely by just deleting the sandbox
ancient bolt
number 1 thing I hate about windows is the damn registry
golden gust
Yea, I recall using something like sandboxie years ago
magic river
It's nice having everything use the same system for storing configuration
golden gust
issue is often that you gotta go out of your way to use it
ancient bolt
hidden place where all kinds of shit can be stored incomprehensibly and basically impossible to clean up safely
golden gust
\o/
ancient bolt
I wish program had to declare a namespace and all registry items went under that namespace
wispy blade
nice self promo xd
ancient bolt
want to uninstall a program, just nuke that namespace
magic river
Does Paper even work like that? 😛
magic river
For PDCs and such, I mean
golden gust
Well, it uses the plugin name as part of the key
ancient bolt
PDC?
golden gust
Or, well, tries to push for people to do that
magic river
I tried to make sure Sponge worked like that but without being willing to go in and write the code all I could do is try to persuade people, I lost since the messy way was easier
golden gust
ofc, there are cases and valid reasons for accessing another plugins data
(Or, well, valid reasons because plugin devs suck at writing API for their stuff...)
ancient bolt
it's fine to allow plugins to access other namespaces
it's not about access control
it's about organization
magic river
You should have to have a dependency on a plugin and some kind of token derived from their Plugin instance to access their stuff
ancient bolt
though allow plugins to define access controls is a good policy
magic river
And then your own Plugin instance is how you access your own stuff
ancient bolt
You should have to have a dependency on a plugin and some kind of token derived ...
yeah that's a good model
magic river
Even if behind the scenes you're just doing pluginname:foo for the storage
ancient bolt
hard fork paper API design discussion lol
magic river
This is an API Paper added, you don't need a hard fork to change it 😛
ancient bolt
well if we're gonna break API anyways...
magic river
You could add a callback plugins can define for when their token is used to access stuff to let them inspect the plugin trying to do it and the key being accessed and allow or deny it
Default would be to allow everything
golden gust
PDC was added by upstream
vernal moth
We only expanded PDC to other places
golden gust
We had it on our radar but was an aikar project but got pushed off because aikar deadeded
marble lark
This is an API Paper added, you don't need a hard fork to change it 😛
it is?
magic river
It's probably fine to just always allow everything but access control was mentioned
marble lark
We had it on our radar but was an aikar project but got pushed off because aikar...
rip Aikar
ancient bolt
a simpler model would be to allow plugins to define the data as public or private
allowing third party plugins to register value change listeners to public properties too would be cool
quasi valley
probably#paper-help then
hidden lance
Ok
Well basically it's just not working all I did was change it to new_world-settings cause I made new world and it needs to be name world I'm sure of
And nothing is working still, tho it was before
hidden lance
Ik I'm going to
ancient bolt
I'm much more interested in a summary of the current MCU storyline from the beginning up to this point
quasi valley
so, basically <starts 5 hour rant over MCU timeline>
true canyon
and that's how I met your mother
magic river
ancient bolt
patiently waits for 5 hour MCU timeline rant
quasi valley
Interesting, but definitely welcome news lol
magic river
Right now they only enforce the requirements via the ISO but in the future they'll just block Windows Update from going from 10 to 11 but let you use an ISO to install it manually
quasi valley
Still no updated release of the health check app yet 
but I guess it makes sense to not give people the wrong impression over what will actually work and what won't, through the usual update process at least
magic river
There is a link to an updated health check app in there
quasi valley
For WIP members only, yes
quasi valley
I'll probably just update my Surface Book to Windows 11 at the end of the year and see what breaks, then wait a small few months before upgrading my pc 
ancient bolt
im probably just gonna update whenever my windows 10 install prompts me to
magic river
I'm tempted to put my desktop in the insiders program now
golden gust
I have a VM which is running in insiders
random remote'd into the thing and it did whole whole "welcome to 11" crap
ancient bolt
what's a tpm
golden gust
"yes", but bypassable
potent fossil
trusted platform module
new mobos just have em already
but i'd have to get one and plug it in
ancient bolt
oh okay
potent fossil
bypassable you say
golden gust
Well, the CPU or chipset has something equiv to it iirc
Or, well, basically has it built in
magic river
Apparently I don't have SMM protection enabled or available
I'll have to bust out the old monitor and check for that again in UEFI
true canyon
Some motherboards don't ship with TPM enabled, which is dum
potent fossil
yea but that's as simple as flippin a switch, mine's just old and doesn't have one 
quasi valley
and basically all the way through every step I had already made peace of mind with possibly just bricking it 
golden gust
did you install the OS originally yourself?
I mean, afaik, UEFI is basically standard these days
potent fossil
meh I'm not too worried about it. if anything I should be buying new components all around one of these days, but i'm not in a hurry
golden gust
Only dum people and 3rd rate OEMs go for legacy
quasi valley
I don't remember I bought the pc pre-built around 2015, not sure about the OS
golden gust
oh, 2015 was still a weird sorta time iirc
quasi valley
lol
golden gust
hey, simple
quasi valley
ur old
potent fossil
we're all old
quasi valley
hey hey, don't deflect now 
potent fossil
me and cat were talking shit on irc like 7 or 8 years ago and now we're here in paper doing the same
👴
golden gust
it wasn't that long ago was it...
potent fossil
yes lmao
quasi valley
cat has reached the mental age of a grandpa anyways
golden gust
er.. I joined uni in 2015, which is when I started getting involved in moderation shit
but, I joined earlier than that, ofc, so, like...
well
fuck
quasi valley
yes
golden gust
He used to have that ping on IRC
quasi valley
say it 3x and close your eyes for 10 seconds
golden gust
part of why we call it hypickle 😄
quasi valley
inhales deeply hypixel hypixel hypixel
wispy blade
in separate messages knen
worn crest
wouldnt they switch their old servers to new ones this month 
i dont feel a difference
potent fossil
yeah i was like 13-14, but not in paper. started in bukkit, then went to spigot, then went to paper
was...erm...yea
merry talon
ye
left swift
lol i was around here when i was 12
Last week?
merry talon
no last week I was 12 and a half
magic river
I blame Bukkit for why I have no patience for children anymore
ancient bolt
lol i was around here when i was 12
yeah we know
coarse lily
no last week I was 12 and a half
Doesn't Discord sometimes ban you for saying you're under 13?
formal turret
if people report you yea lol
golden gust
we've had the community longer than discord existed
coarse lily
cat do you remember being 13?
coarse lily
Oof
potent fossil
I used to smoke a lot of weed and don't remember a good portion of my teen years
Vague memories
Kinda rip
Side effect not often talked about ^^
magic river
13 was when I ended up in the ICU for head trauma after car surfing
potent fossil
Smh Amaranth
magic river
Before that I was interested in computers but spent most of my time doing other things, after that I had to spend the summer indoors and started spending every waking minute on a computer and as much as possible online
turbid oar
magic river
Like, I knew BASIC before that but afterward is when I learned HTML, CSS, and PHP and started making things that weren't little toys
turbid oar
html and css is awesome 
native wolf
html and css are painful tho
magic river
CSS was cutting edge back then
turbid oar
html and css are painful tho
not really
magic river
13 was 2000 😛
turbid oar
@potent fossil 
potent fossil
yes?
magic river
twin lagoon
@warm anchor 
potent fossil
I remember the first program I ever made was in C and it was a (text) fight between two randomly generated monsters (picked from an array) and then random damage occurring each hit till one died with 1 tick per second or so
magic river
Is that from Animatrix or something?
potent fossil
was kinda fun but the code was disgusting
potent panther
https://tenor.com/view/league-of-legends-scrims-loplo-gif-22756631
#gifs-and-memes
toxic bone
No
native wolf
I remember the first program I ever made was in C and it was a (text) fight betw...
That's seems like a cool thing to make when you are just starting
My programs weren't that fun
potent fossil
It was pretty fun
I went in with that goal tho, i really wanted to make that for some reason
native wolf
I made stupid things like calculator and stuff before
potent fossil
but i was like 10
magic river
My first C program was an IRC bot, I think
potent fossil
all of it was stuffed into one file with functions everywhere and the naming was all ass
native wolf
oof
magic river
Same with my first Python program, at least after stuff I did along with a book to learn it
potent fossil
python is killing me rn, trying to make a little framework for myself for physics class
me no having fun
potent panther
my first programming language is redstone
magic river
The book taught how to make a poker game or something
native wolf
I learned programming because of ComputerCraft lol
I messed with it and made some shit
Then got interested in Python and Java and moved on from CC
hidden lance
Does anyone know the name of the plugin that can inspect players inventories and ender chest?
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by sulu - About 14,900,000 results (0.43 seconds)
coarse lily
I think there are like 2-3 popular ones people use.
worthy geode
OpenInv can also open offline inventories, Essentials can not afaik
unreal pike
saw purpur...airplane...has anyone tried them?
tropic flame
saw purpur...airplane...has anyone tried them?
can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shooting stars?
I could really use a wish right now
wish right now
wish right nooooow
unreal pike
lol
tropic flame
jk but uh, i think Purpur is from a member of this discord server?? so it's probably cool
from what I know about Airplane though it's known for pulling patches from other sources without testing them a la the defunct Yatopia
unreal pike
hmm ok
cosmic raft
wish right nooooow
<insert 10 minutes of rapping>
unreal pike
I always stuck with paper but it seems alot of ppl switching to purpur
ill try it on localhost
coarse lily
from what I know about Airplane though it's known for pulling patches from other...
This is not a fair interpretation of Airplane.
tropic flame
<insert 10 minutes of rapping>
B.o.B. had everything to stay relevant but he just did not put out any more hits since then + started preaching for the whole flat earth thing
coarse lily
Paul, the author of Airplane, writes his own patches from what I've seen. Yatopia took Airplane and Purpur patches.
tropic flame
oh
coarse lily
Purpur is Paper work with a lot more config options.
coarse lily
Airplane also has a paid tier for support and stuff.
tropic flame
@unreal pike I guess Airplane's cool too then
unreal kernel
does anyone know how to change the difficulty for one map and have it different on another
tropic flame
what was the other software that'd do the same thing as Yatopia though? i swear to God there were two of them
coarse lily
There's like 12.
Yatopia wasn't great. Lots of hacky stuff, unsafe patches, stuff slapped together without testing, etc.
There's a bunch of similar projects run by ex-Yatopia folks or random other people. Not sure if anyone really uses them.
I'm not sure what Purpur's testing methodology is but it's gotta be 3403408340489x more stable than Yatopia was.
Especially with Tuinity being merged into Paper I'd say most folks should just use Paper.
If there's stuff in Purpur you really want, then it's worth a look.
If you look at Airplane and it has or does something you really want, then go for it.
But if you aren't really sure why you'd use anything other than Paper then you should use Paper.
Doubly so once Tuinity is finished merging because Tuinity++
@static badge I bequeath you my firstborn child.
magic river
Purpur is something you'd use if you want the behavior changes it has
cosmic raft
hai amaranth
coarse lily
Purpur is something you'd use if you want the behavior changes it has
Yeah if bits in it are stuff you want.
magic river
cosmic raft
.amaranth
limber knotBOT
magic river
coarse lily
Haha
magic river
Fuck nightwish, shit band that stole my name 😛
tropic flame
they make epic music tho
ancient bolt
the hotter my computer runs the colder it gets in my room
honestly pretty great system tbh
warm anchor
time to do a HVAC run to your closet like Linus and cool PC on it 
toxic bone
Linus Tech Tip
pallid raptor
Hey has anyone ran an paper server before? Or an server with plugins in general? Just want to ask a few questions
As I’m sorta new to this
viscid wedge
Hey has anyone ran an paper server before? Or an server with plugins in general?...
Nope, not once
golden gust
.dontask
limber knotBOT
viscid wedge
Sass aside, what do you need to know
ancient bolt
not a lot of paper server experience here
pallid raptor
Aight I’ll just say my question...
magic river
How can you run a server on paper? At least use a calculator
magic river
You're not wrong
viscid wedge
We just shitpost about running servers
viscid wedge
Nobody actually does it
pallid raptor
So I’m going to get a 32GB ram server with about 6TB of Storage (Dedicated server) and im gonna run a factions, Skywars, Skyblock etc using multiworld... Would it hurt my performance or?
lament patio
Run multiple servers
tropic flame
it'd be better to buy smaller servers one for each gamemode and link them all with Waterfall
magic river
Multiple paper instances instead of multiple worlds and then waterfall to connect them together
golden gust
^^
lament patio
You could do that in the same machine if it has enough cores
golden gust
scale horizontally, not vertically
pallid raptor
You could do that in the same machine if it has enough cores
It’ll have one....
lament patio
Uhhhhh what
magic river
1 CPU core but 32GB RAM and 6TB HDD?
tropic flame
one core?
golden gust
the tick loop ticks all of the worlds
viscid wedge
The most cursed hosting provider
pallid raptor
Hetzner is where I’m buying the servers :/
lament patio
I think you're confusing something
tropic flame
The most cursed hosting provider
the myth about minecraft only using one thread has spread too far
warm anchor
Hetzner what? the CPU model? -.-
tropic flame
yeah they're probably an OVH reseller or something
we know that
what we need to know is the CPU model
is it an AMD Athlon?
an Intel Xeon?
pallid raptor
Oh I can get an i7 or higher but I can only really get an i7 as I only have £25
golden gust
Start small
toxic bone
Hey has anyone ran an paper server before? Or an server with plugins in general?...
Never in my life.
tropic flame
Xeon what? .-.
i don't know, ask them, I'm just giving examples
golden gust
if your budget is £25 you probs don't have the cash to throw into a network
warm anchor
Use bloomhost or Dedicated MC if you only have $25 budget.
pallid raptor
if your budget is £25 you probs don't have the cash to throw into a network
I don’t that’s what I’m saying
golden gust
one server doing all that crap together is just asking for performance issues
warm anchor
Bloomhost supports the ability to host mutiple server in 1 plan so look for them first
pallid raptor
So 32GB ram isn’t enough?
golden gust
amount of ram is irrelevant here
warm anchor
RAM isnt gonig to be your bottleneck
pallid raptor
Oh
warm anchor
Get a good plan from bloomhost and spend that $25
golden gust
if your budget is $25 you're probably looking at the stupidly old i7s they have
pallid raptor
Aight
warm anchor
Make sure your server dont die within 6 month first
then think about scaling later
99.99% of server fails in first year
golden gust
you need more than one server instance, and doing way too much at once is just a disaster
warm anchor
no point buying a dedi if you are just going to shut it down later
pallid raptor
Make sure your server dont die within 6 month first
I’m not trying to.. trying to get big and become something and not become The Hive
Sorry for ping forgot to turn off
warm anchor
ok so how many people in your Discord now
golden gust
I'll take shit literally everybody says for $2000
pallid raptor
Non I’ve been trying to advertise
viscid wedge
Sorry for ping forgot to turn off
There's really only one person here who cares about that sort of thing
warm anchor
so you have a total of 0 player
pallid raptor
There's really only one person here who cares about that sort of thing
Oh ok
pallid raptor
so you have a total of 0 player
Yes... 🥺
warm anchor
you are already thinking abotu running a hub?
so a hub of 0 player?
._.
scale it later, get player first.
pallid raptor
I’ve been trying to advertise
warm anchor
1 game mode at a time
pallid raptor
Yeah but one would be a little boring no?
pallid raptor
What about a skyblock, Murder mystery and TTT?
magic river
I used to play MC 12 hours a day on a vanilla server
warm anchor
Those are all pretty popular game mode
golden gust
You're already picking the shittest game modes to start tryna scale up with
magic river
For like a year
warm anchor
what are you plan to do that 's different than other 98450 server out there?
golden gust
These game modes require a surge on day 1 to survive more or less
warm anchor
yeah
a surge of players and lost 90% on 2nd week then that's your real player count
people dont get this when they try to start running server and they want 5 game modes
magic river
PVP modes need a huge ad spend at the start because without players you won't get players, it's a catch-22
pallid raptor
So what game modes should I do?
unkempt drift
I mean... that's up to you
tropic flame
preferably something that does not depend on an existing playerbase to exist, e.g. pvp
lament patio
You probably want to think this through a loooot more before starting
pallid raptor
So skyblock then... that’s all I can think off
magic river
Is prison still a thing?
tropic flame
yes
native wolf
So, discord.py just died
pallid raptor
Yes and that
tropic flame
you can make creative plots
pallid raptor
There’s a prisons 2.0 that’s developed and still is continued
Yeah that could work
On a flat world
viscid wedge
I used to play MC 12 hours a day on a vanilla server
viscid wedge
So, discord.py just died
discord.js time
lament patio
Gotta be careful with creative servers, though
tropic flame
On a flat world
uh, yes, just make sure you use a plugin to handle it - in this case, PlotSquared
lament patio
Cursed gamemode
formal turret
I used to play MC 12 hours a day on a vanilla server
same, good times
tropic flame
So, discord.py just died
tropic flame
discord.js time
more like JDA time 
formal turret
played on that server for 3 years
pallid raptor
uh, yes, just make sure you use a plugin to handle it - in this case, PlotSquare...
Noted: Use PlotSquared
pallid raptor
So gamemodes I could use: Skyblock, Creative plots, Prisons, Survival...
That’s what I’ve got so far that I could use
lament patio
Yap - https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1
Yay, less things written in Python
But nah, on a serious note, I'm sorry for the author
tropic flame
But nah, on a serious note, I'm sorry for the author
same
tropic flame
That’s what I’ve got so far that I could use
it can help if by any case you can get any friends from your timezone to play regularly
i assume you're targeting players from your country
otherwise idk, just any friends that could play regularly and help boost that player count
pallid raptor
No I’m trying to target people from anywhere
Why just target one region of players when you can target more
tropic flame
in that case just any friends really
pallid raptor
Yeah well I don’t really have any 🥺 ||That play mc anyway||
coarse lily
If you don't plan to have a lot of staff at first, I might avoid creative initially.
Just my two cents.
But it also sounds like you're building a server that's pretty much what everyone else bolts together.
Unless you gave some unique aspects or game modes it's going to be hard to lure players there vs anywhere else.
pallid raptor
I mean I’m going small then gonna add more gamemodes
I want a factions but there’s no point of pvp when I’m so small
Plus this looks pretty good same for the 12GB Ram
viscid wedge
Creative requires either strong restrictions or knowledge of plugin development
Ideally, both
pallid raptor
I mean I got told to use or recommended to use Plots Squared
And since I can use command blocks on paper I’ll probably clear everyone’s inventory of tnt or any explosives etc
tropic flame
Creative requires either strong restrictions or knowledge of plugin development
basically restrict lava, explosions and mob spawns
lament patio
The important part is not really choosing the plots plugin, it's really to deal with the millions of exploits with the gamemode
lament patio
There's a lot more than that
pallid raptor
Yeah you’ve got a point but I have no idea what plugins too use, what exploits there are for said plugins etc
lament patio
Ideally you'd have to heavily restrict NBT
pallid raptor
NBT? I’m new af to Java
I’m legit a bedrock player connecting to Java via Geyser soo
I know more bedrock than Java
And it’s 3:14am
magic river
Oh goody an offline mode server too
tropic flame
are you sure you want to open a java server then?
pallid raptor
Yes
Bedrock sucks so much
Worst API, So restricted, Only 7 servers to play apart from trash realms
Which are copy paste of each other
Java on the other hand
Is way better in many ways
tropic flame
7 servers is only on consoles though
pallid raptor
Mhm
tropic flame
in Windows 10 Edition and mobile ones you can join whatever
pallid raptor
That’s what I mean I don’t understand why Xbox can’t connect to externals without having to edit their DNS settings
tropic flame
but yeah i understand
tropic flame
what is this server going to be for though, bedrock players or java players?
pallid raptor
Java
No way am I gonna have bedrock, they won’t be able to connect as long as I don’t say the port :)
tropic flame
lmfao sure let me just scan all your ports, I'll come back later
pallid raptor
Plus mobile players basically have intentional reach than controller and keyboard and mouse
coarse lily
No way am I gonna have bedrock, they won’t be able to connect as long as I don’t...
If you have geyser running and someone finds out they can probably find the port. Just FYI.
If either they know you're using a bedrock client or they see that someone else is.
pallid raptor
If you have geyser running and someone finds out they can probably find the port...
Eeeh I’ll just ban the IPs connecting through geyser
coarse lily
Or you could not use Geyser and just switch to the Java client.
void forum
Doesn’t geyser display a * in front of a bedrock user?
pallid raptor
I can’t afford an computer with 5k worth of parts
tropic flame
yes
pallid raptor
Doesn’t geyser display a * in front of a bedrock user?
That’s flood gate config
tropic flame
I can’t afford an computer with 5k worth of parts
you don't need that much for minecraft
pallid raptor
You can change that
coarse lily
You can run Minecraft on pretty shit computers.
tropic flame
don't you have a computer at this very right moment?
pallid raptor
you don't need that much for minecraft
I’m over exadurating
coarse lily
Lots of folks use old laptops, etc.
tropic flame
you'll just need a computer with OpenGL 3 (3.1? 3.2? i don't remember) to run the latest version
pallid raptor
don't you have a computer at this very right moment?
No lmao it died during summers hot as fuqqq heat wave
tropic flame
which admittedly I don't have but that's because my graphics is integrated and it came out in 2003
tropic flame
No lmao it died during summers hot as fuqqq heat wave
h u h
so it literally overheat?
damn
tropic flame
i don't know how the hell countries have been so hot and the most I've experienced was 36° in one day
this year
past years have been harsh in portugal
this year was mild
pallid raptor
Yeah in the UK it was hotttt
tropic flame
much to my pleasure, mind you, i hate hot temperatures
I've experienced a +40° summer day already
pallid raptor
Me too I only like the heat if it’s cold but if it’s not too hot
tropic flame
i don't want it ever again
pallid raptor
I might buy some bloom hosting soon
pallid raptor
I mean this is better than
That
That was on my dads phone
A few days ago
Yes I’m stuck with an SE and 5s while he has an IPhone 11
And 3 laptops
:/
pallid raptor
Yeah
pallid raptor
I mean tbh it looks like bloom is worth more
pallid raptor
you said you're 14 right?
Yes and trying to learn my CCNAs
tropic flame
and he doesn't let you use any of his laptops? lmfao
pallid raptor
He knows I’m try to setup a minecraft server
tropic flame
that's quite some capitalism over there
pallid raptor
He’s just a prick 99% if the time and a bit mental in a way 😂
Can’t blame him of COVID
The part where I’m stuck with an SE and 5s and no laptops while he has 3 I mean I’m not sure what to say
Anyway
Let’s stop talking about my dads stuff tho I brought it up and basically asked for it
Bloom is looking better
Than Hetzner servers
viscid wedge
pallid raptor
That’s £11.62
tropic flame
the most efficient being body
tropic flame
well hey, actually
vestal jasper
I'd like to imagine they made a solid block of snow and chiseled that out of solid blocks michelangelo style
tropic flame
if you got money to pay for your server, why not buy a laptop?
vestal jasper
a masterpiece, really
tropic flame
I'd argue it's more important for you at this right moment
pallid raptor
if you got money to pay for your server, why not buy a laptop?
Laptops are not £17 are they?
vestal jasper
they can be
pallid raptor
I mean my phone is doing quite well
tropic flame
17£ per month at the end of the year is how much?
pallid raptor
they can be
One for scrap parts yes 😂
tropic flame
pallid raptor
It’s $24 a month
warm anchor
It’s $24 a month
say if you spend $408 and your server dies in 3 month. you spend $408 for 3 month
pallid raptor
Yeah and I £20 a week every time I go to school
warm anchor
if you rent a server for $20 a month you will only lost $60
pallid raptor
So at the end of the year I get £390
pallid raptor
Nah
warm anchor
lol
pallid raptor
If this server thing goes well I won’t even need to go school
viscid wedge
well that's a hell of a lot of hope
tropic flame
yes and you're also 14
viscid wedge
pallid raptor
Bruh there’s no shitty high school here 😂
tropic flame
you should be ending high school at 18 which just so happens to be the age of majority
warm anchor
If this server thing goes well I won’t even need to go school
let's not get too hyped for this mmmkay
tropic flame
oh so at 14 you just go to work at a factory?
viscid wedge
Go get your secondary education chump
pallid raptor
I leave school at 16 @tropic flame
pallid raptor
🤦♂️
tropic flame
I leave school at 16 <@294565307974942720>
well, let me put this in more general terms: finish your secondary education at least
warm anchor
Yes, sure there are people who dosnt need secondary education to live and are doing fairly well
pallid raptor
I’m still doing my CCNA’s and my dads mate has I think government contracts because his company is Government contracted so I can get 60k+ a year contracts when I’m 16
warm anchor
but you here showing me that you need this secondary education or at least you aint realistic about your goal
pallid raptor
Yeah well I’m learning my CCNAs and I’m in love with IT and tech and shit so I’m gonna do that most likely when I’m older
warm anchor
you are 14 now and you are taking a promise that's not on paper and 2 years away?
pallid raptor
If this whole server thing doesn’t work as I want to do what I love not just minecraft
warm anchor
do you know how much can change in 2 years?
pallid raptor
What’s your point?
viscid wedge
you are 14 now and you are taking a promise that's not on paper and 2 years away...
Chill man it's a kid
warm anchor
My point is you should come back to reality first
pallid raptor
Man it’s 3:37 I don’t want to
warm anchor
coz your physical body is here, in reality,
tropic flame
https://giphy.com/gifs/animated-trippy-computers-10hzAv962PpuP6
the timing was perfect
thanks
tropic flame
that's the whole point of it
warm anchor
pallid raptor
Perfect
warm anchor
Fucking Amaranth
tropic flame
Anyway what’s your actual point your trying to say?
if your server does not work then at least you have a plan B
is this CCNAs thing the equivalent to secondary education at your place?
if so then aim for it
pallid raptor
Yes do you know what a CCNA is?
It’s a certificate
For IT
And shit
I want to do it as I want to do cyber security
tropic flame
warm anchor
Chill man it's a kid
I am all for kids with ambition and I know a few that did well in the end but a slap of reality never hurts
tropic flame
i figure it's this, right?
pallid raptor
And have a side thing like minecraft
tropic flame
okay
magic river
I was trying to reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawnmower_Man_2:_Beyond_Cyberspace
pallid raptor
It proves some shit basically to do shit
tropic flame
if this is your plan B and if it's the equivalent to secondary education then go for it
warm anchor
I was trying to reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawnmower_Man_2:_Beyond_...
that reference is older than them
tropic flame
and make your server meanwhile
pallid raptor
Like a key to open a door but the door is the job and the key is the CCNA’s
tropic flame
don't follow that way
our point here was about what you said in this message
pallid raptor
if this is your plan B and if it's the equivalent to secondary education then go...
I’m going to do it as a main job I just want a minecraft thing in the side
tropic flame
don't ditch school for a server
tropic flame
indeed
warm anchor
man you gonna be si rich now
tropic flame
his father has a friend with governmental contracts so he's probably indeed rich
tropic flame
cool
pallid raptor
He owns the contracts as he owns the company sooo I shouldn’t need to do much to get it
tropic flame
pay me a trip to the Bahamas once you can then 😎
remember me I'm your best friend
wink wink
pallid raptor
Lmao and die of starvation
You have better chances climbing up a wall of mud than that
magic river
...do you two know each other?
pallid raptor
No
pallid raptor
Not at all apart from we just spoke and are in this server
pallid raptor
I'm just apparently very good at conversations with online strangers
Nah I’m just chilling trying to figure out that dudes point and listening to Uk Drill on my phone
tropic flame
eternity's point?
tropic flame
it's the same as mine
pallid raptor
So aggressive 🥺
tropic flame
don't ditch school for a minecraft server
pallid raptor
Yeah I was joking
tropic flame
then yeah that's pretty much it
pallid raptor
Oh ok
Felt like something different idk
I can’t be bothered to think about it now and just want to listen to Central Cee
pallid raptor
Who? 😂
tropic flame
idk you said you listen to uk drill
pallid raptor
Mhm
tropic flame
...do you two know each other?
for real though no we don't, apart from right now and in this server
pallid raptor
Yeah Active gang, M. huncho, Dutchavelle (Who’s a nonce), AJ Tracey, Tion Wayn, SR, SL, Dezzie, Freddo, Aitch and a lot more
tropic flame
Yeah Active gang, M. huncho, Dutchavelle (Who’s a nonce), AJ Tracey, Tion Wayn, ...
nice, you know AJ Tracey
tropic flame
https://youtu.be/2Yh753AJgKs
you might like this song then
tropic flame
sure then
turbid oar
whatup people 
pallid raptor
Yeah I would code but my laptops dead sadly
turbid oar
oh damn charge it?
pallid raptor
I do have an Java IDE app installed so that’s good ig
No I don’t mean dead battery
turbid oar
I leave my laptop on charge
turbid oar
ouch
turbid oar
I would flip if my pc turns out to be dead next morning lol
pallid raptor
Yeah it died mid session
turbid oar
I have like 20 projects of code on it I do not want to lose
pallid raptor
Best advice back them up
turbid oar
yes I have a thumb drive
tropic flame
huh, i see
pallid raptor
It does Python, C, Java, Node etc
turbid oar
This youtube channel is dope I watch it on my free time now. My friend showed me it lol https://www.youtube.com/c/smartereveryday
tropic flame
lmao the description makes it sound like it's an iOS-exclusive when it actually exists for android LMFAO
pallid raptor
Lmao
tropic flame
nice though
pallid raptor
Yeah it is
Isn’t hard to use, Aternos’s site could use some recoding for mobile and their staff team could use a bit of discipline
turbid oar
yuck
turbid oar
Aternos sucks. Are you talking about the server hosting?
pallid raptor
Got muted by some 15 year old who’s always triggered because he didn’t want to even see me in chat
turbid oar
lol
tropic flame
are you telling me kids use aternos for more than just hosting for their friends?
i mean I'm not surprised
just disappointed
pallid raptor
Yup
turbid oar
at this point get a damn dedi 
pallid raptor
They have fucking paper mc on there and give you 2.5GB of ram but you can’t even load Fucking fresh chunks
tropic flame
i used to be one of those kids except i actually knew what things meant 😂
tropic flame
They have fucking paper mc on there and give you 2.5GB of ram but you can’t even...
that doesn't sound like an aternos limitation
turbid oar
I started off with servers hmmm 2 years ago at some place but forgot 0/
pallid raptor
They’re hardware is shit
They’re staff team is always triggered lmao
And you get barely any addons
tropic flame
no wonder, it's kids who use the platform
turbid oar
They’re staff team is always triggered lmao
have you seen there server network people advertise on there so much lmfao
pallid raptor
have you seen there server network people advertise on there so much lmfao
Yup lol
pallid raptor
no wonder, it's kids who use the platform
Yeah no one in their right mind would use it
tropic flame
And you get barely any addons
plugins? you can use anything that's in SpigotMC and BukkitDev
nothing outside of those two though
pallid raptor
tropic flame
their major downside imho is they don't let you install SpongeForge because it's not available in CurseForge
pallid raptor
I Said to do CTRL + R to refresh his client because he was having an issue with his client
tropic flame
next time tell him alt f4 should do the trick
pallid raptor
first off why you in the hosting thing?
What hosting thing?
tropic flame
it literally does, he just has to open the client again 
pallid raptor
Because I like to fuck with that child
turbid oar
LOL
pallid raptor
He started arguing with me over this
Apparently he won both?
And brought it up before he muted me
tropic flame
pallid raptor
He hates me and I can tell already 😂😂😂
pallid raptor
kids be like
https://c.tenor.com/1vkHSi54s3wAAAAM/dbz-my-opinion-vs-your-opinion...
“15” year olds who are mods and have sonic in their pfp yes
chrome quest
How do you know if hardware a provider offers for a minecraft server is good?
tropic flame
“15” year olds who are mods and have sonic in their pfp yes
hey is this an insult towards me
pallid raptor
hey is this an insult towards me
No that one kid who muted me for a day
tropic flame
oh okay then
warm anchor
pallid raptor
tropic flame
... that's sonic?
pallid raptor
Mhm
tropic flame
that swamp green is disgusting
just comes to show how 2D sonic is better than 3D sonic smh
pallid raptor
He’s a sonic fan boy I bet if o say it’s a terrible game series he will ban me
No offence
tropic flame
just tell him the first three games + Sonic Mania are better than anything else that came after Sonic Adventure
pallid raptor
Will that get him pissed?
tropic flame
watch him getting red like a tomato
maybe
judging by his picture he likes 3D Sonic
pallid raptor
Hehe I’m gonna just say it in off topic and not direct it at anyone
Make it look so not like bait
Brb
Hehehe
tropic flame
have fun
pallid raptor
I love fucking with “15” year olds who have mod power who always scream and cry
tropic flame
hmm
pallid raptor
He says he’s 15 but the way he acts makes me think he’s younger
coarse lily
How do you know if hardware a provider offers for a minecraft server is good?
Most providers will tell you the machines they're using. So check the CPUs against other known good CPUs and see.
There's no way to tell if it's way oversold or not other than reviews/experience/etc, though, so sticking to well known good providers is ideal.
coarse lily
He says he’s 15 but the way he acts makes me think he’s younger
Aren't you 14?
pallid raptor
Yes
I got muted for a day because I told a mod to refresh discord because they were having a bug
coarse lily
You're arguing with him, too. And bringing it here for some reason. Seems like you're both acting kinda immature.
pallid raptor
Nah not really arguing with him just trying to get him to see what he’s saying is pretty stupid
coarse lily
That's what arguing is.
magic river
Oof, so Western Digital and Crucial swap TLC flash for QLC without changing model numbers and Samsung swaps the controller to one that gets half the write speed
For the 970 EVO Plus
coarse lily
There's been a lot of that shit happening lately. :/
warm anchor
gotta find ways to save moeny 
magic river
Samsung's controller fabs have been shut down in February
Well, they might not still be down but they were from February to at least May
The fabs are in Texas and in February hell Texas froze over
unreal pike
entity-activation-range
does this option disable mob AI past the value?
Like do they not move
magic river
Disables mob ticking, yeah
unreal pike
thanks
magic river
lol, Windows progress bars are still such a joke
Windows Update for 11 just went from 8% downloaded to 100% while I was poking through Process Explorer to try to see what it was actually doing
magic river
First thoughts on Windows 11: meh
left swift
Windows 11 on an imac
magic river
Umm...
warm anchor
magic river
I have a Windows Security app running though, I'm looking at it
warm anchor
Tfw just a poly to get you to visit Microsoft store
magic river
I think they forgot to wire it up to respond to its own URLs
serene bolt
I'll give windows 11 a shot in a few years when they actually polish everything that's new and changed :P
untold copper
magic river
Uh oh, the built in teams doesn't work with my work account and the Teams I already had installed seems to be broken
Huh, I guess you just can't have both open at once
silver nexus
I'm debating moving to Linux. Only thing holding me back is Microsoft Flight Simulator.
pallid raptor
Move to the first version of Linux
golden gust
I mean, if you game and wanna continue to game, you're generally best just dual booting
warm anchor
Or just have two PC!
solid sapphire
gimme a stupid mod idea. im bored.
untold copper
gimme a stupid mod idea. im bored.
would you PLEASE make a fabric mod that let me fly in singleplayer without cheats for 1.16.5 lmao
I literally can't find a half decent one
solid sapphire
sorry i only do forge :pain:
solid sapphire
sorry not enough time t owatch yt
wispy blade
wtf spottedleaf plays osu
untold copper
Or not
untold copper
What's osu?
You don't want to know
solid sapphire
snoopa you tried patchwork?
solid sapphire
use a forge mod with patchwork?
untold copper
eh
