general

[novel horizon]

Bro?

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

[novel horizon]

Bro.

[radiant oriole]

Bro!

[ashen cliff]

BRO!

[novel horizon]

My krusic bro 😦

He doesn't like me

[ashen cliff]

BS. I hate everyone equally.

[novel horizon]

That's bs, you don't hate everyone equally.

There's someone you hate more or like. ❤️

[wispy blade]

he likes touhou.

[novel horizon]

Nice

[ashen cliff]

I hate Touhou bro.

[novel horizon]

Nice

[ashen cliff]

Just ignore the 50GB of Touhou songs on my phone.

[novel horizon]

Not nice

[wispy blade]

bro.

Touhou songs BANG

[worn ember]

[ashen cliff]

Fact!

[novel horizon]

[ashen cliff]

Just bike riding while listening to songs about Touhou genocide and not understanding a single word.

[little frost]

bro

[ashen cliff]

Bro!

[little frost]

nagareteku~

[novel horizon]

Bros.

[ashen cliff]

Forever.

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

Good morning michale

[twin lagoon]

[warm anchor]

[novel horizon]

Right now I'm talking to the dev of that plugin/addon for bluemap, which does this now 👀

[warm anchor]

That’s for the player residence?

Btw bluemap epic

[novel horizon]

Yep

It has spikes because it loads up all residence markers every 10 mins by default

and well.. There's 1640 residences 👀

so that's why lol

[warm anchor]

It’s probably only done on startup? To map them?

[novel horizon]

It is actually the interval in config, default is 10 mins

Every 10 mins it pulls the info to update those markers

[ashen cliff]

[solid sapphire]

Wow theres a wikipedia page on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia

[little frost]

unbiased

[austere ivy]

certainly not!

[warm anchor]

not too bad actually but probably setting it higher

[novel horizon]

Yeah, I did set it higher, they said there's gonna be some improvement later

[royal mantle]

can someone help me install vanilla tweaks?

it isnt working when i extract the zip files into world/datapacks

Ping with answer please

[warm anchor]

What feature you looking for from the pack? If possible you should use a plugin replacement

[tribal flicker]

https://youtu.be/ywofSChDPSk This is the third time I'm asking but hey, everytime I come back with more info. Alright so. My problem is that on my server, enemies shoot projectiles at you in the form of dropped items, now these dropped items just tend to lag about making them hard to dodge, they are client sided so the hitbox doesn't change despite them teleporting up and down on your screen.

I just found this clip and realized well, this was hosted locally and was also done when the server did not go over 50 mspt at all for the whole time. Meaning well, I can rule out connection latency and general server lag, which leads me to 2 things

Either it's gotta be paper trying to optimize stuff by maybe not refreshing item locations quick enough or something (idk what im talking about)
Or could just be minecraft in general, I mean, I tested this sort of in single player with XP Orbs and I notice that XP Orbs are a little laggy on single player too so it could just be minecraft, I know these are different things but it seems similar to me.

Now I'm wondering if this could be fixed via a mod or, some custom server jar. I get most of you are just as confused as I am but hey worth a try maybe someone might read this and know this time

thanks for reading lemme know what you think, is it possible to reduce or should I just deal with it and shut the fuck up.

[drifting path]

do you guys know how to enable ZGC on intellij, ping me if you answer pls

[golden gust]

edit the flags for IJ?

The toolbox lets you tweak the flags

[twin lagoon]

@heady spear fucking idiot

[waxen panther]

@heady spear fucking idiot

[wispy blade]

@wispy blade fucking idiot

[oblique plume]

anyone know a good grave plugin for 1.17?

[frank otter]

Plugin no but iirc vanilla tweaks has a data pack for it

[golden gust]

there are several dozen grave plugins

[frank otter]

I'm just wondering, if you wanted to make some sort of glorified online database frontend like a message board or whatever, does it make more sense to fill the Web page on the server side (like Jinja and flask does) or use something like Vue or jquery and have the Web page query an api from the client browser and populate itself

[golden gust]

thats a design aspect

[frank otter]

oh dear there's no standard?

[golden gust]

both of them are gonna do the exact same queries more or less, more client side stuff can offer a better "flow" as it lets you have more say over stuff and how data is pulled in, etc

No

It's all down to the tech involved

more stuff is heading towards client sided these days

But, it's not strictly a requirement depending on what you're tryna actually do

each has their own merits and shortfalls

[frank otter]

What would you personally do

[golden gust]

Depends, really

if I was aiming for pretty and dynamic, client side is generally preferred

if you're aiming for minimal resources and such, server side

[limber knot]

if you want to waste energy and be incompatible with old browsers/screen readers for blind people then do it client-side

runs

[vernal moth]

If your screen reader breaks on a SPA, it's the screen readers fault, lol

[waxen panther]

😂 asterisk runs asterisk 😂

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther come back !

[waxen panther]

am getting biscuits

[limber knot]

I highly doubt you need a screen reader in a spa it's going to get wet

[vernal moth]

There are 3 major architectures, CSR (client side rendering), SSR (server side rendering) and SSG (server side generation or static site generation)

[limber knot]

imo you'll allways want to use the method that can be easily cached and at the same time as dynamic as necessary for your application

[vernal moth]

I would always prefer SSG, but it's not always possible if you got highly dynamic content. After that I would use SSR, like hangar, cause of the client performance and SEO benefits. CSR I use for highly dynamic proper WebApps, where SEO isn't an issue, or when I don't wanna host a server and SSG doesn't work

[limber knot]

if you don't have dynamic content then you'll want to generate static sites on the server

[vernal moth]

You want to generate static sites on the CI

Which is what SSG is

Thats the nicest way

[limber knot]

a ci which is on a server, yes

[vernal moth]

Just produce a bunch of html, js and css files and throw it into a cdn

No my CI is serverless in the cloud, amh

Smh*

If you talk about server, ppl always think dynamic, terminology is important

[solar dawn]

hello guys , quick question

sorry to come in like that

[vernal moth]

Fun fact: I am proof reading a bachelor thesis about csr vs ssr vs ssg right now 😂

[solar dawn]

Does paper allow projectiles acceleration by tnt for example ?

[limber knot]

does vanilla allow that?

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, I'm defo a heavy SSR/SSG person but I can't ignore the fact that the others exist and are used by people these days

[solar dawn]

yes vanilla allow that

[solar dawn]

mr bot

[limber knot]

then there is your answer: Paper should allow it, if not open an issue

[golden gust]

afaik there is/was an issue open for it

[solar dawn]

oh so it gonna get fixed soon

i hope

[vernal moth]

Just ping cat till he reviews it

[magic river]

That's a different thing

But doesn't that require a plugin to have cancelled the event?

Huh, maybe explosions have changed since 1.7 then 😛

[golden gust]

Basically, it's one of the many areas which haven't been maintailed all too well and has cumulated in a sea of horrors

mojang twiddled with behavior over the years which sorta like, lead to ^

[solar dawn]

i quickly investigated as purpur that relay on paper has the same issue

it seems to be a line of code that set projectile damage to false

but idk that's what i found

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5429

found this

[golden gust]

CB hasn't really been updated well to follow the logical changes to that code over the years

[twin lagoon]

[golden gust]

the original recommended fix was not a real fix but a hackaround

[magic river]

CB wasn't updated well to follow such changes back in the day either 😛

Just apparently better than it is now

[solid sapphire]

Any idea of what the best priced vps? im looking to move from aws

[golden gust]

Back in the glory days, 'eh

vps

Just, don't

use a shared host or look at a cheap dedi from hetzner

Sure, you'll save money vs AWS but you're in the same hardware boat

[heady spear]

@waxen panther uwu 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️

[solid sapphire]

Thanks.

[olive marlin]

Does anyone know a super dumb and simple http git server impl? I need to test something locally and can't seem to find anything.

[waxen panther]

where are u!!!!

[heady spear]

I am gonna go to the store

I need food

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTq6nwO4oJU

[heady spear]

I needed to press a consent button before I could open that

Is cat trying to sleep with me?

[golden gust]

u wish

[heady spear]

I really do

[golden gust]

But, if you really wanna, I mean... er...

I'm not a chav though

[heady spear]

I can keep my eyes shut

[warped yacht]

how to open ticket>

[brave radish]

if you mean a Paper one, ask in #paper-help or report here if it's a bug:

.issues

[limber knot]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues

[viscid wedge]

is that a thing that's happening

[magic river]

Of course it is, that's what happens when you advertise a way to get in direct contact with the people who know things

[vernal moth]

ban hammer go brrrrrrr

[worn ember]

people actually do that?

[wide chasm]

Yes

[worn ember]

lmfao

[wide chasm]

It's like DMing the top person in the members list for help, but now you can grab everyone's attention at once with a convenient button

[worn ember]

amazing

[brave radish]

well, tbf, it does say server crash

any reasonable person would know what that really means but this isn't a reasonable server

[worn ember]

it literally says "report an exploit"

[brave radish]

if the question is "why my server no Hypixel" then yeah I'm out of defense

[worn ember]

since when can you put buttons on embeds?

[brave radish]

it's quite funny how many times in the Minecraft Community Support server we ask for launcher logs and the person follows the guide to get them and then says "thanks that fixed it" and leaves

[worn ember]

getting logs fixed crash

nice

[golden gust]

more people are umb, don't read or think and all of a sudden they look at the file and are like "oh!"

[brave radish]

the really odd ones are when they do the same thing with a HiJackThis report

[untold copper]

day #57 of trying to get abs (yesterday): no exercise cos was very occupied with something else
day #58 of trying to get abs (today): did 45 minute lower body (INCLUDING ABS) strength and conditioning

toned abs in a month bois

i can feel it

[quasi valley]

day #🇽🇩 part 10 of trying to get abs: Schau, was du für 'n fauler Stoooner bist. Zwei Volksdrogen reichen, wir wollen keine Dritte. Politik macht Stress, darauf eeerstmal 'ne Kippe. 'Ne Haxe zum Mittag und 'n Herr'ngedeck. Fünf Kaffee dazu, damiiit der Dreck schmeckt.
day #🇽🇩 part 11 of trying to get abs: We're sorry skeletons, you're so misunderstood. You only want to. socialize, but I don't think we should. Cuz spooky, scary skeletons. Shout startling, shrilly screams. They'll sneak from their sarcophagus. And just won't leave you be.

[left swift]

Kneny

[wispy blade]

Day uwu of trying to get abs: @quasi valley uwu

[fossil patio]

it's easy to get a 6 pack, just do 2 of the 3 things:

• be skinny
• don't drink liquids
• workout your abs
  you don't even have to go to the gym

[void void]

Why does Paper use 700mb more ram than Purpur

This is using the latest 1.17.1 build of both

tested with 1.5GB of ram

Paper uses 1.47GB

Purpur uses 800mb-900mb

[golden gust]

memory utilisation is a complex topic and it's not like the JVM doesn't have its own overheads

any talks on such a topic would generally just be people pissing into the wind

[twin lagoon]

@untold meadow

[untold meadow]

NO U

[vernal moth]

TIL theres a max amount of issues you can link to a PR on github: 10

[austere ivy]

Wow, lame. Unusable, basically.

[vernal moth]

it just means I should prolly merge that PR 😄

[merry talon]

wontfix

[worn ember]

This better be for hangar

[little frost]

it's the new minimessage parser

[left swift]

What's hangar

[merry talon]

a dum dbo clone

[worn ember]

something that will never see the light of day

[left swift]

That thing that's copying sponge?

:kappa:

[golden gust]

Well, even sponge is happy we're doing that ;P

[warm anchor]

Like your browser history?

[left swift]

Haha funny good one yellow

[warm anchor]

Hi mana

[left swift]

[golden gust]

God, I gotta get a new dead friend

[warm anchor]

[golden gust]

like, one friend who you trust with your machines password with only one rule:

Delete my shit when I'm gone.

[left swift]

[potent fossil]

Holy shit

So to recap yesterday, my discrete structures prof (who is ALSO my lin alg prof 😭 ) sends out an email that he is changing the time for the discrete structures class from morning to late afternoon, which conflicts with my physics class. Keep in mind the semester starts in literally 2 weeks

So I respond to him saying it's not gonna work then I emailed my counselor to figure out a class that could replace it until next semester

I have no fucking idea what happened after that, besides that the chair of the engineering dept emailed me to ask me to send him the email from the professor, so I did. Chair replied telling me not to drop the class.

I'm like ok whatever.

[warm anchor]

Someone is getting the boot

[potent fossil]

Wake up today and I have two emails, both from the prof. One is to the whole class rescinding the time change noting one student went to the chair to complain (he's talking about me wtf! lmao all i did was go to my counselor and respond to the chair's email, never reached out to him directly.)

And the 2nd email is from the prof direct to me saying that I don't need to worry because I (as in, me) talked to Dom (the chair) and that his schedule won't change because I can't make it

Like, that petty

I'm...what?

So I just sent him back an absolute brown-nose email saying I didn't reach out to anybody except for my counselor

I swear to god college is like playing daycare and the profs are the kids sometimes

I have this man for two classes this semester One right after another

[left swift]

Sometimes simple

U just cant be nice

[warm anchor]

Go to your school dean now or whoever in charge of quality and discipline.

They will be interested in knowing that

[vestal jasper]

Complain to the chair that the Prof is acting like a child. Really send the message home who's paying who here

[potent fossil]

But he's my only option for lin alg and discrete structures and he has tenure

So, like, he can ruin my GPA lol

[vestal jasper]

True

[potent fossil]

I'm transferring out of this college in 2 semesters (including this next one) hopefully

[warm anchor]

Simple getting fucked both in life and in school

[potent fossil]

I guess so, damn

I really had no other choice but to eat his ass

And he knows it too

[left swift]

Sounds like the start of a porno

The next part is when he asks you to stay after class for extra credit

[potent fossil]

I also don't know if it's my ADHD causing me to misread the tone or not

I do have a problem with that

[warm anchor]

Send us the message?

[left swift]

Wait adhd can do that

[warm anchor]

Black out your name

[potent fossil]

ADHD can cause severe social skill disruption, understanding tone being one

so, yes, kinda

[left swift]

I should really go talk to someone

[warm anchor]

For him to directly send you a private message about it

[potent fossil]

I have a major problem in misinterpreting peoples tone and then I react and they're like "wait that's not what I meant"

[warm anchor]

That’s not anything about your adhd

But your prof being an ass

[potent fossil]

I guess lol

[vestal jasper]

Your prof is 100% an ass

[golden gust]

simps asshole is gonna be as large as a oil barrel at this rate

[left swift]

Also kinda weirdchamp the dean or whatever told the prof your name

[golden gust]

But, yea, profs a douche

[warm anchor]

If he is the ONLY one for a class that’s required

[wide chasm]

Is it uncommon there for classes to overlap? Here it's very common to have classes overlapping and no one is going to change schedules for that.

[warm anchor]

They are often time assholes

[potent fossil]

Ok, this is the email he sent to everybody:

There were 18 responses to my survey so far (out of 26 students) and there are 4 students who are unwilling/unable to change (2 of which emailed me to explain and were going to try and make it work, but there was least one who went to the chair to complain).   

There will be no time change.  See you all MW 11-1220pm.

Thanks everyone, sorry for the confusion.

I'm the one who "went to the chair to complain"

[vestal jasper]

Your prof shouldn't have called anyone out like that

[warm anchor]

Coz they know students have no choice

[vestal jasper]

That's just disrespectful

[golden gust]

Like, clearly he's not suppose to be changing the time and was just expecting to get away with it as such

[potent fossil]

Here's the one he sent to me:

I talked to Dom (I’m guessing you did too), you don’t have to worry there will be no time change since you can’t make it

[warm anchor]

This message I can taste the salt

From your prof

[golden gust]

Like, as a grad, we where more than happy to let a class swing an hour either way especially if it lined up with our schedule and didn't fuck us over

[left swift]

Ya he being a baby

[potent fossil]

No, they do sometimes. What I do in that case is email my counselor so that I can update my classes. I had no problem doing that and that's what I did.

But my counselor went and talked to the dean on my behalf w/o me asking, who went to the chair, and then the chair I guess probably reprimanded the prof. But I asked for none of that.

[left swift]

The chair should've never told the prof ur name either

[golden gust]

I think that there was one lecture we agreed to start an hour early permanently as we'd get to leave earlier and not have to sit around as much

[left swift]

If it was a real complaint

[warm anchor]

That’s why I said the dean should be involved

[golden gust]

Simp said he spoke to his counciller and not the chair

[warm anchor]

That’s totally not the proper way to handle this

[golden gust]

maybe somebody else flagged it to them or simps counciller reffered it?

[left swift]

The counselor told the chair tho and the chair said to the prof

[potent fossil]

Yea I never went to the chair. The chair did reach out to me to forward him the email I got from the prof tho. But he initiated that contact, not me

[warm anchor]

I guess his advisor told the chair and the chair came down on his prof

Is what I got

[golden gust]

yea, probs

[ancient bolt]

prof said "I’m guessing you did too" so it could just be the prof was able to guess

[golden gust]

Yea

[wide chasm]

Maybe the prof thought you made a big deal about it, because it went through so many people? But in any case, that was the counsellor's fault, not yours.

[vestal jasper]

If simple said ANYTHING regarding the time before going to anyone yeah ez guess

[warm anchor]

Yeah he’s being salty

[golden gust]

I mean, prof has no confirmation on that, chair probs got a few complaints or something and forwarded it or just forwarded the single complaint as expected given that it goes against guidelines

[ancient bolt]

esp if the prof is an asshat and categorizes students based on who they consider to be "trouble makers" just because they stick up for themselves

[potent fossil]

I replied back to him basically saying "Hey, all I did was respond to your email and go talk to my counselor. Anything else that happened was out of my control and I truly apologize if I caused you any inconvenience."

So hope that's enough

[golden gust]

as I said, most places have strict set times but unis and such are often willing to just not care if it's agreed upon by the students and impacts nobody

[warm anchor]

Why are you apologizing lol

That’s feeding his ego dude

[ancient bolt]

had a boss like that a couple years ago. My friend was on his "good guy" list until the boss asked him to take on more work without a pay raise. He said fuck off, either give me a raise or find someone else, and all of a sudden my friend, who was amazing at his job, was on the shit list

[potent fossil]

Cause again, he is my only prof for discrete structures and lin alg which I need to graduate and he has tenure

Kinda need to eat his ass

There are no other profs teaching those classes

Just him

[warm anchor]

But you ratted yourself out there

[golden gust]

I mean, maybe going straight to the counciller was a bit of a OTT thing rather than just tryna deal with it between the prof directly

but, eer

[warm anchor]

He prob didn’t know but guess as others said lol

[golden gust]

But, I mean, profs a douche for just rescheduling without speaking to people in the first place

[potent fossil]

Well, I guess

[ancient bolt]

going to the councilor is the correct course of action

[wide chasm]

Well, if changing classes has to be handled via the counsellor, I don't see how that would be OTT

[warm anchor]

Now he’s got your ass marked

[potent fossil]

Well, for doing the right thing?

[golden gust]

I mean, I'm considering real world vs the books

[warm anchor]

Yes

[potent fossil]

Like, am I going to be retaliated against? lol

[warm anchor]

People are petty like that

[ancient bolt]

going to the prof would have had his ass marked and would have not changed anything anyways

might as well get it done by going through the proper channels

[wide chasm]

Also, only 26 students, wow

[golden gust]

Yea, if your prof does something dumb, yea, by the books, go speak to higher up, but, ideally stuff like this is dealt with by speaking directly to the prof and seeing if he can just not, but, he also fucked up by just rescheduling and not speaking to the students

[warm anchor]

I mean you did the right thing but you should not reply with an apology then he know it’s you simple

[potent fossil]

Well, a bit too late for that I guess

[warm anchor]

Get your dean involved so they “know” this happened in case he wants to fuck you in the future @potent fossil

[wide chasm]

People love others apologizing though, so even if it's not directly your fault, it can help improve the other's mood

[golden gust]

So i mean, by the books, prof fucked up, by typical company "off the books" crap, prof fucked p but maybe coulda been dealt with without flagging the profs ass, but, I mean, this is all convoluted to all fuck anyways

humans are fuuuun

[potent fossil]

So now I go to the dean? lmao

Jfc

Y'all 😭

[wide chasm]

I wouldn't do anything for now

[warm anchor]

True but in his case the prof already targeted him in a personalized email

[left swift]

I would atleast tell the counselor so it's on record lol

[wide chasm]

Wait until your prof/counsellor responds and then act on that

[warm anchor]

Yeah make it on the record

[golden gust]

Basically, it's the nature of having stuff on record vs tryin to avoid having a pin in your ass

[magic river]

So wait, you went to your counselor to get your physics class changed so you wouldn't have a conflict and this led to the prof getting yelled at to not change his schedule?

[ancient bolt]

When I was in uni/college, professors absolutely couldn't change the time of a class, that is extremely inappropriate. If it's a small class and everyone agrees after the semester starts or something that could work, but not something like this

[warm anchor]

So if he’s trying to pull any petty move on you later you have something to go back into

[potent fossil]

I mean I guess he did give 2 weeks notice in an email and asked for responses, so, he didn't just do it. But I absolutely couldn't accomodate it so I went to my counsellor. Everything else snowballed off of that

[ancient bolt]

I agree not doing anything right now is the best course of action

[golden gust]

I mean, a big aspect of it is tryna not shove a pin on simps ass even if his prof is an collosial douche who fucked up and broke the rules

[warm anchor]

2 week is not enough

[golden gust]

I mean, imho, asking is fine

[wide chasm]

For me, no professor would change any timing, since that would affect ~400 students, so changing classes would be the only thing to do. If that requires going to the counsellor, then that is perfectly appropriate.

[warm anchor]

Most class is picked way before that

[ancient bolt]

The prof is mad cause he clearly did something he wasn't supposed to do

[potent fossil]

Yea I signed up for the class like 8-10 weeks ago and had this schedule planned

[golden gust]

if you relied, I can't do that, and he then rescheduled, yea, I woulda gone and called it up

[ancient bolt]

your councilor would not have escalated this if this was normal behavior or something the professor had the power to do

[golden gust]

if he just asked, I wouldn't of minded if I could do it and it idn't screw me over

[ancient bolt]

they escalated it for a reason, it's not on you for that and not on you to apologize, you did nothing wrong

[warm anchor]

He fucked up and got called out for it so he’s salty pretty much but simple. Have it on record will protect you later if he’s gonna shit on you

[golden gust]

as said, I've had profs move lectures an hour or so forward and we where all happy so we could leave campus an hour early

[ancient bolt]

i disagree with cat, going to your councilor is perfectly fine

[golden gust]

But, yea, by the books, you did fuck all wrong from what I can see/get

[wide chasm]

You did nothing wrong, wait and see what happens is my advice

[magic river]

Especially if you were just trying to shuffle your schedule around to make his change work and not complaining about him

If you were complaining about him you should have probably talked to him about it first

[potent fossil]

Well, alright. Too bad I can't rescind the apology, that's already sent out. I did that immediately when I read that, cause I was kinda freaking out and wanted to deescalate. So, if there is damage it's already been done. I hope I just survive these last 2 semesters now. Got 2 classes with this guy now.

[golden gust]

I mean, a prof saying, "would you prefer if we move this forward" is fine, imho, especially if it works better for everybody, but, if it starts stepping on toes, you say no and he does it anyways, yea, that's a personal issue and defo should be flagged

[potent fossil]

Yes, all I wanted to do was replace discrete structures with another class because I couldn't do his time.

[wide chasm]

Imo if anything I think apologizing would only improve the situation

Even if it's not your fault

[ancient bolt]

in that case you're even less at "fault". you just asked your councilor to find a replacement - they are the ones that saw it as problematic and escalated

[potent fossil]

The only other thing I can see he might take issue with is that I went to the counselor -- then the counselor escalated and the chair reached out to me eventually to forward him the email I received from the prof. So I forwarded it to him. That's all.

So, does that hurt me? lol

[warm anchor]

No you did what was asked

Keep those email exchange with you

[potent fossil]

The only other thing I've ever talked to the chair for was the scholarship I'm also in running for. Never complained to him about anybody

[ancient bolt]

i don't think so, except that professors are immature children, so you'll have to wait and see

[golden gust]

Imean, as I said, ideally stuff like this is dealt with personally rather than escalation, imho; if you said no you can't do it early and he then went against you, if you go and ask for a transfer and it gets escalated, that's on the prof

[wide chasm]

Well, your prof may have gotten the impression that you went to the counsellor to complain about them and not to change classes. If he replies to your e-mail and there's a need to follow up, you could emphasize that again.

[golden gust]

ofc, I say this on the basis of not always being a "by the books" person and have experienced the pros of a prof moving a lecture time in order to aid us

but, I mean 🤷‍♂️

[ancient bolt]

academia is extremely toxic and lots of professors really relish the power they have over students, and if that's the kind of professor this guy is there is nothing you can do to ever be right by him anyways

[potent fossil]

Alright well, if he replies I'll prob come back here and y'all can help me reply cause I need to deescalate the fuck out of this to normal levels

[golden gust]

ofc, having this shit on record is always a good idea

[potent fossil]

My friend did tell me "this guy is very intense" so

I guess he's right

[ancient bolt]

so if he's a good dude, you're fine. If he's not, it's not worth even trying

[golden gust]

^^

[warm anchor]

Intense doesn’t mean he has to be an asshole though

[golden gust]

yea, most profs I've had are generally chill so long as you don't fuck em off

[potent fossil]

Well, honestly, if he has a personal problem with me I don't give a fuck. I just don't want him to fuck up my GPA

[warm anchor]

A prof can be all serious and strict but it doesn’t mean they gotta act like fucking children

[golden gust]

We didn't really have any collocial douches, however, tbqh

[wide chasm]

Here the classes are so large, the prof doesn't know anybody so they also can't piss on you specifically 🙂

[golden gust]

Yea

[ancient bolt]

keep a paper trail for this class of your assignments and scores. If he's out to get you, and you have the paper trail to back it up, you can defend yourself

[potent fossil]

I'm trying to avoid him retaliating in that way (my grades). In any other way I will take it

I can take assholes

[ancient bolt]

otherwise it's your word vs his and yours will always lose

[golden gust]

horror with tenure is that profs can act like huge fucking babies and get away with it

[true canyon]

I asked a professor a few polite clarifying questions once and got called ignorant and they threatened to lower past assessment grades because I clearly didn't pay attention.

But that was only that one jerk.

[warm anchor]

Print everything out and forward to your personal email account simple

[ancient bolt]

yeah it's insane how some professors behave

[warm anchor]

If you are using school email

[potent fossil]

Every email already forwards to my personal email and a copy is saved in the school inbox

[ancient bolt]

fancy

you should be okay then

[wide chasm]

Well, can you view the grading on your exams as well as a rubric? Cause then it'd be hard for him to retaliate via your grade, since there's not much room for improvisation especially in smth like linear algebra.

[potent fossil]

Alright well I'll just file all this shit away into a folder

[ancient bolt]

math classes can still fudge on grades a lot if the professor has a grudge

[potent fossil]

^

[warm anchor]

If it’s a project style report

You can duck with it a lot

[potent fossil]

There are no projects, it's all going to be math work

[golden gust]

I mean, you're often measures on results and how you got there

[wide chasm]

A project style report for math? Would be the first time I ever saw that.

[potent fossil]

He could take issue with how I solve an integral for example

"Not how I'd do it, minus 5 points"

[golden gust]

profs can easily knock marks for "how you got there" for pedantic shit

[ancient bolt]

basically every advanced math course i was ever in provides partial credit for work done on a problem, since the problems are so complex and have so many parts to them, making the whole problem binary would be really shitty

[warm anchor]

Math theories and stuff like that but I guess for algebra it’s fine

[wide chasm]

Well, that's why you also need the rubric

[ancient bolt]

so all a professor would have to do is be much less willing to provide simple his partial credit compared to other students

[wide chasm]

Ideally the rubric states exactly which parts you will and won't get points for

[warm anchor]

And it’s gonna be impossible to proof that

[ancient bolt]

but also he could just take it out on the whole class if he's that kind of professor lol

[potent fossil]

I really don't think there is a rubric for a math class, and the only way I could get that is by getting him to give it to me

[golden gust]

I mean, yea, rubrics minimise that but fudging is easy

[warm anchor]

Lmao

[potent fossil]

Which I doubt he would

[wide chasm]

Oh, here the rubrics are just public

[potent fossil]

Yea, no

Have never had that here

For a humanities class, sure

For math/engineering? no

[wide chasm]

Most of my classes have had rubrics of some kind

[ancient bolt]

In all of the math classes I had I would receive the exam back to review the questions I missed, idk

depends on how they run their class

[wide chasm]

Also ensures the TA's grading is consistent

[potent fossil]

I do usually get my marked up test back yeah

[ancient bolt]

a class of 26 might not even have a TA tbh

[potent fossil]

We won't have a TA

[ancient bolt]

that's a really small class

[wide chasm]

Yeah, that's true, all my classes have multiple hundreds of students, so I'm not really sure how classes this small work

[potent fossil]

There are 26 students in the entire college taking this class, so it's just going to be him vs us

[ancient bolt]

the school i went to had classes about that size for every class I took

[potent fossil]

It's a very small community college, most of the students are freshman/sophomores taking lower level math/science/humanities to transfer out

Not a lot of people stay to take the higher classes

[wide chasm]

Ah I see

[ancient bolt]

was actually really cool cause most of my professors were really nice and worked a lot with us 1 on 1

[potent fossil]

Typically it is very nice, this is the first time I've had a prof act like this

[ancient bolt]

it helps asking questions etc when you're in a smaller class imo

[potent fossil]

So kinda shook

[wide chasm]

Last class I was TA for was so large, that even the TA's were separated into a hierarchy, cause otherwise it'd be too large to manage

[potent fossil]

Lol

[ancient bolt]

that sounds like hell

[wide chasm]

It was fine, you didn't really notice it

[left swift]

All in one room?

[ancient bolt]

i mean from the student's perspective

[potent fossil]

Alright well what I'm gonna do is make an email folder "MathProfessorDrama" and put all of the correspondence I've personally had and received about it in there

[wide chasm]

Everything is still online here

[ancient bolt]

for a class that large if you fall behind it can be hard to impossible to catch back up

[wide chasm]

A student only has a single TA

[warm anchor]

Dotn name it drama lol

[potent fossil]

personal email acct tho, but prob right i guess

[wide chasm]

So, from their perspective they only have to interact with one TA or the professor for more serious stuff

[potent fossil]

"MathProfessorTimeChange"

[warm anchor]

“Records between me and my fucking manchild math professor” @potent fossil the better name

[potent fossil]

lol

[warm anchor]

[ancient bolt]

I never had to go to a TA for any of my classes cause at my school the classes were so small. I hate the idea of having to go through a TA

[potent fossil]

Alright I have the full paper trail stored in a folder now from start to end

[ancient bolt]

like, a professor is paid to teach and hopefully has experience doing so

a TA is literally just a kid

[potent fossil]

Gonna export to disk as well

[ancient bolt]

who took the class before

[silver nexus]

one of the teachers in my school has tenure and makes sexist remarks to all the females in my school, stuff like "Shut up woman", women not getting to vote during class polls, etc. we've reported him to the school multiple times and even if they believed us (he turns into a perfect angel whenever the administration walks into the room) they cant do anything about it.

[potent fossil]

I swear to god I am not gonna get my ass whipped for this

[ancient bolt]

you'll be fine, hopefully it's all for nothing and the professor is chill with the whole thing

[wide chasm]

Well, yes, the expectation is that the TA knows what they're doing since they got high grades on the course.

[ancient bolt]

getting high grades is so meaningless though

[wide chasm]

But every class here functions via TAs, considering they are all into the hundreds of size, just a professor can't manage that alone

[ancient bolt]

being able to teach and tutor requires a completely different skillset, and getting high grades does not imply understanding of the course material

[potent fossil]

I need to maintain decent grades to maintain eligibility for my scholarship which is essentially the only way I'll be able to attend the uni I'm transferring to

So, while I get what you're saying, they do

[wide chasm]

Teachers here also don't need any kind of teaching experience, though

[ancient bolt]

Sure, but unless you're getting a super green professor (I did once, it was hell) then they've been doing it for a while and have a lot of practice doing it

[wide chasm]

True, although that can also be the case for TAs. I've had TAs who literally TA'd for every class, so they definitely had experience doing it. Of course different material for each class, but the teaching experience can be carried over to some extent.

But I get your point, that's less likely to be the case than with a professor

[potent fossil]

Oh sorry thought you were talking to me DenWav

[ancient bolt]

i just can't imagine it tbh. I'm sure it's fine and most people don't mind it. I just had a much more personal student to professor ratios at my school and really enjoyed it, so I kind of react negatively to the thought of bigger classes

[wide chasm]

(You can pick your own TA, though, so pick TAs that you have seen before 😉 )

[potent fossil]

Alright anyway thanks for the discussion peeps. I'll just save the paper trail and cover my ass as best as possible

[warm anchor]

Follow up with simple being fucked story pls

[potent fossil]

If I get a reply I will

[wide chasm]

Opposite for me, no small classes and no professor interaction

[ancient bolt]

I was friends with several of my professors and went over to a few of their houses for dinners, cookouts, parties etc. One professor invited some students for a board game night that was super fun, he has an amazing board game collection and has a giant custom made board for a game he and some of his friends are creating

[true canyon]

Tenure isn't invincibility.

[ancient bolt]

he completed the board and invited some students to play it after I graduated, so I didn't get to play on it unfortunately. But it looked amazing and I really wanted to play on it

My physics professor loved memes too, that was a great class

[wide chasm]

Actually I remember hearing that other studies do have TAs with experience - they'll be doing a study for education in their field and then during that study they can practice as a TA. But in CS, basically nobody does this and if they do, then they don't bother doing TA work as they can generally do something better, so they use this system.

[ancient bolt]

did a presentation on quantum computers for my modern physics class, asked if I could make the whole thing out of star wars puns and memes and he said he'd take off points if I didn't

(was a joke, but still, super fun professor to work with)

[golden gust]

It's not invincibility but it often makes getting rid of a prof overly expensive and sometimes even cost prohibitive for smaller colleges, etc

[potent fossil]

He's been there for like 30 years or smth, idk

[fierce dune]

does anyone know if people create cannon jars for faction servers that isn't 1.8? Like 1.12, or 1.17+?

[potent fossil]

lol

cannon jars are typically snake oil

[twin lagoon]

they're not really snake oil on versions above 1.8

because the mechanics have changed since 1.7 & 1.8

[potent fossil]

Oh michale smort?

[twin lagoon]

but there's also no one publicly selling them

think bestle was the only one producing jars on 1.16 with reverted mechanics

[magic river]

I thought newer versions could still do cannons, just not with the same design

[potent fossil]

Alright, well, I guess I retract my statement then. But the question was "how do I create one", and I don't know how to answer that so I'll back off

[vestal jasper]

Wtf has blockgame become

[twin lagoon]

they're weird and complicated

no one really tends to bother answering questions on what has exactly changed etc

[void void]

The prices they charge are the stupidest part

[twin lagoon]

ehhhhhhh

yeah the mcmarket jar stuff is stupid

[potent fossil]

@vernal moth havent used directus for a bit, does its backend have a thingy where you can make a table directly from it or does the table schema need to already be there?

strapi is making my life so suck right now

need to move

[vernal moth]

you can create your schema via SQL or via the api or via the admin app UI

[potent fossil]

k thanks dad

strapi won't even fucking run on arm for whatever reason

[vernal moth]

strapi can edit schema in UI too iirc, but you gotta restart 😂

[potent fossil]

yea you do

or run in dev mode

but i cant even start it on the oracle vm

it refuses

been fucking with it for quite a while now

[vernal moth]

never tried with directus, but its a dum node app soooo

I actually paid for a feature in directus now, my company supports sustainable open source, wooo

it serves a few thousand requests per minute right now I think

[potent fossil]

\o/

I just need it for my personal site, very basic stuff

Strapi was my first headless cms and I just never took it down, but now since it fails to start I'm not even going to bother anymore trying to fix it

[vernal moth]

if strapi produced a nice schema in the db, you might be able to just point directus at that db and everything will work automagically

[potent fossil]

i dont even know what the schema looks like (deeply, have had a glance at the tables but not structure), but it's not clean at all

at least directus just reads your own schema

i'll see if i can show you but i know i have a "single entry" datatype for my resume and it made like 3 tables for that

no idea why

[austere ivy]

12 minutes on applyPatches and counting 😎

will I be able to pr tonight? only time will tell

nope

my discord just crashed

[vale sail]

https://buyvm.net/kvm-dedicated-server-slices

hello would anyone be willing to help me for pay or not with setting one of these up for ddos protection?

and.... is this a good idea? Setting this up for ddos protection?

[austere ivy]

it has completed!

21 minutes, 44 seconds, applyPatches is done

[void void]

jesus

21 minutes

is that with or without cache?

It takes 8 minutes on mine 👀

For the first time

[magic river]

We timed this once

A whole bunch of us, on Windows, WSL2, crossing the WSL2 boundary, HDD, SSD, Linux, etc

iirc Windows on HDD was about 20 minutes

[peak ginkgo]

Windows lol

@minor badge hiii do you think the ban plugin on your gh is usable in prod

someone on our team doesn't like libertybans which makes life hard

[left swift]

[golden gust]

I proxmox VM took an hour but it was with like, 4G of ram so far from ideal

There is plans to get some caching thing deployed at some point to help, no idea to what effect it will help

[peak ginkgo]

I mean I can probably finish it if i knew what was wrong im not gonna lie I managed to completely skip that

[void void]

Whats wrong with libertybans?

[waxen panther]

[left swift]

Brocc

More like

Crocc

🐊

[peak ginkgo]

i actually haven't compiled paper since i installed pop

[void void]

i5@2.5ghz 😵‍💫

[austere ivy]

very cool!

give me your computer

[peak ginkgo]

This is this machines first time doing any gradle anything

I just installed Java yesterday

[vestal jasper]

Neofetch supports almost 150 different operating systems. From Linux to Windows, all the way to more obscure operating systems like Minix, AIX and Haiku.
Yet they don't support CP/M smh my head

[peak ginkgo]

So I'm doing a time ./gradlew applyPatches

[austere ivy]

I'd do a second test to see how it does with cache, but I don't really want to be here for another 20 minutes while my computer is essentially bricked :^)

[peak ginkgo]

build failed i forgot to setup git

awesome

Bombed .gradle and recloning the repo

[austere ivy]

Bombed as in it finished it or your new computer exploded?

[magic river]

btw, I went and dug it up, this is how bad applyPatches can be on Windows:
7th gen i5, Windows 10, 5400rpm HDD
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/856364536239095808/unknown.png

[peak ginkgo]

@austere bane made u join this discord to answer this question

[austere bane]

God damn it

[magic river]

Stupid discord

[left swift]

[twin lagoon]

worst thing is that it needs to be done like 3 times before it caches properly

on nested forks atleast, might not be the case on paper

[magic river]

On SSD it was either 3x faster or 6x faster

Then on Linux it was either 3x faster or 6x faster on top of the Windows numbers

I forget which was which

[olive marlin]

Use TCPShield for free?

[peak ginkgo]

I get similar speeds on an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X w/ the same if not faster hdd

Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm

Linux first time doing anything Gradle/Java related

No caches, just now downloaded every dep

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, it all boils down to "where is the bottleneck"

for some, it's hardware, for some, its OS

[peak ginkgo]

And it's git apply on Windows

[golden gust]

There was apparently one guy who's buildtools install took a few hours

[peak ginkgo]

He should update Git4Win lol

[golden gust]

I mean, this was years ago

[austere ivy]

That's a big yikes lol

[golden gust]

gits defo gone a long way to speed itself up

[austere ivy]

I'm still looking for a way to solder a new CPU onto my macbook, so if anyone's got any suggestions...

[golden gust]

I mean, god forbid if spigot got to as many patches as we do

[waxen panther]

windows 😆

[golden gust]

solder a new CPU

eeerrrr....

I mean, rossman has videos on that shit, but, it requires the correct type of gear

[void void]

wouldn't recommend 😅

[golden gust]

if you have to ask, good luck

[austere ivy]

idk the correct terminology

[golden gust]

You need a reflow station

[austere ivy]

I've seen rossmann do it and it looks hecka complicated

[golden gust]

and then you're gonna want all the correct tooling for it and the stencils to help with the paste, etc

Beause it is

[magic river]

Why are you running Windows on a Macbook?

[golden gust]

BGA is a fucking ballache

[austere ivy]

I'm not, I'm on macOS

[magic river]

And it took 30 minutes?

[austere ivy]

22-ish, but yeah

[magic river]

Is your macbook from 2008?

[peak ginkgo]

i feel like we need a spreadsheet

[void void]

h o w

[austere ivy]

#general message

[magic river]

iirc I tested on a 2015 MBP too

[austere ivy]

2012, but close enough :P

[vale sail]

doesn't support geyser

unless you pay 25$ a month

[magic river]

Looks like I never tested it or never posted the results

[golden gust]

I mean, it's either pay them or pay somebody else

[peak ginkgo]

Thats life

[golden gust]

easy option is often just to roll a OVH VPS or two

None of these stuff is free, "free" plans are at cost to the provider

[void void]

Totally scientific research here: I'm getting 59s when cached and 1m 57s when cloning the repo and running applyPatches for the first time

PaperMC compilation times spreadsheet when™️

[peak ginkgo]

i'd be totally interested

Processor, OS, Output of time ./gradlew applyPatches

Maybe Git Version too

git 2.32.0.2 on windows has experimental fast patches I just haven't been able to see a difference

[austere ivy]

the future is now old man https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m-KO6x-ctQdwOwrpItBbH203zvT6NFxWPj42a4yam68/edit?usp=sharing

feel free to add your own

[peak ginkgo]

this is perfect

google sheets fu

[austere ivy]

oooh cool

[peak ginkgo]

Should I do a dropdown for oses

I'd probably just write

Windows
MacOS
Linux

[austere ivy]

hm sure I guess

is there a way to make it non-restricted to certain options though?

[peak ginkgo]

Yeah it was an optional thing I enforced for true/false

[waxen panther]

I will add mine when i reboot into windows

into linux**

[austere ivy]

ooh ok that works

[void void]

Uncached = cloning the repo, cding into it and typing ./gradlew applyPatches right?

Just so I'm 100% sure I'm not fucking up these super precise benchmarks

[peak ginkgo]

Ye, or running ./gradlew clean before applyPatches

[austere ivy]

yeah I'd think so, unless things are cached in ~/.gradle?

[waxen panther]

just doing gradle clean is not accurate

[twin lagoon]

these benchmarks are useless because you're also not keeping in download speeds in mind

[peak ginkgo]

okay so dont do gradle clean

[twin lagoon]

it takes time to git clone the like 5 repos

[peak ginkgo]

hmmmmmm

outlier

[void void]

Time to set up an official benchmark proxy server that throttles all connections to 10kbit/s

so even the people with dial up have a fair chance

[red timber]

you know what's nice

leaf moment

[twin lagoon]

@static badge furry

[worn ember]

mikropp

[red timber]

completely worth it

[peak ginkgo]

@austere ivy so Cached is checkboxes now

and once i remember how charts work i can do that

[austere ivy]

much better

dejay you are now chief sheets guru of the Official Paper applyPatches Time Spreadsheet (™)

we need a discord server just so you can have a fancy role with that title ;p

@static badge furry?

[left swift]

[cobalt surge]

wow... wtf @golden gust i seen that you sent.......

[golden gust]

it's beautiful, yea?

[cobalt surge]

billy cant stop laughing now.....

we didnt expect that

[waxen panther]

average tiktok user

[cobalt surge]

he goes.... oh gawd cat sent in dm... wanna watch too

[golden gust]

😄

[twin lagoon]

solid video

[potent fossil]

was pretty gud

[warm anchor]

What video

[potent fossil]

yes cat send to etern

[warm anchor]

Quality

[twin lagoon]

weebs

[warm anchor]

[twin lagoon]

[thorny totem]

[potent panther]

i migrated account

on minecraft

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-angry-stressed-anime-gif-12346823

[twin lagoon]

kashike epic

[waxen panther]

@twin lagoon best michael

goodnight!

[twin lagoon]

[golden gust]

Heeey, O'Conell!

Looks to me like we got all the horses!

[vestal jasper]

.lombok

[waxen panther]

.lombok

[limber knot]

[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on

[waxen panther]

kek

[limber knot]

[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on

[golden gust]

ur upbringing was shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTWB5OlyjI

[void void]

ive built a fully functional creeper farm (ive built it on other servers) exactly the same in my server and I wanted to ask is there a setting I can change in my server to fix mob spawn rates or something like that. Thank you 🙂

[warm anchor]

Show us a timings in #paper-help chance is your touched something and don’t know how to alter farm accordingly

[void void]

sorry im noob what is timing

[potent fossil]

/timings on and then play for about 20 minutes along with the current lag or whatever issue you are experiencing

Then go /timings paste and put the link in #paper-help

[warm anchor]

I checked his stuff everything is default so chance is he built the farm wrong. He still hasn’t come back to me for which fame he followed lol

[gleaming warren]

Hi

[unkempt drift]

'sup

[limpid comet]

Ello

[gleaming warren]

How is everyone?

[warm anchor]

bluely

[spice crane]

i made alot of modifications to paper

:))))

thats 1 thing i like about open src projects

[limpid comet]

hi eternity

[warm anchor]

I hope your day is great

[limpid comet]

you too cutie

i've been working on startmc.sh today

nothing interesting to push yet tho sadge

[warm anchor]

you see my last ping in syscraft about resisting the RAM input to number olny right?

one dude put in 10 G instead of 10G and it bork

[limpid comet]

oh god

of course

[warm anchor]

[void void]

how do i enable this? when i set it to true it just re-appears as itself

[warm anchor]

scroll down

and set the on you want to true (?)

[minor badge]

not at all

[vestal jasper]

@dusk drift icu

that was fast

[void void]

i did it just came back as the same thing

[warm anchor]

wdym?

did you hit save?

[void void]

yes

[warm anchor]

how are you hosting it?

[void void]

aternos

[warm anchor]

yeah you are SOL

or actually go ask them.

idk if thats the one they locked also

[void void]

ah ok

[dusk drift]

?

[vestal jasper]

Liking my stuff

Like minutes after its bumped

[dusk drift]

wtf did I like lmao

[vestal jasper]

Sysout

[dusk drift]

ohhhh

Yea, I like random plugins that I think are useful

[serene bolt]

choco is a contributor on sysout

[vestal jasper]

Yep lol

I should put him up there

And I wanna make more useful stuff I just never get ideas

[serene bolt]

it's kinda funny because sometimes I'll make a single PR to a project, and then people rush to add me to their contributors list on their spigot resource page for the purpose of flex

[vestal jasper]

Lmao

[static badge]

I think there's a spelling error in packetlimiter's readme pure

[formal turret]

better to not have any ideas than to have ideas and then don't bother finishing them when you're almost done

[vestal jasper]

I haven't thought about flexing til now

[novel horizon]

but hey it sounds awesome, right? when you are known and people acknowledge you like that ^^

I would do that too, tbh

[limpid comet]

@wispy blade i merged your shit on startmc.sh but i didn't test it, current branch is now in maintenance mode while i get v2 ready

[viscid wedge]

merging untested changes

[warm anchor]

So pure is basically a mascot???

[unreal quarry]

well then. i clicked over just in time to see that lovely artwork for a full second

[limpid comet]

the rewrite is done very soon anyways

its based

[unreal quarry]

based on what?

[limpid comet]

svelte

[minor badge]

blue is the human form of the stackoverflow survey results

[viscid wedge]

lol

[limpid comet]

what does that mean

[warm anchor]

Wtf

[limpid comet]

svelte is perfect in every way, shape and form and i will NOT have otherwise!

oh wow

she's right, svelte is 70% most loved framework kekw

[novel horizon]

ok cordon bleu 👀 lol

[novel horizon]

yes you are

[warm anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/who-tf-asked-nasas-radar-dish-who-asked-nobody-asked-gif-17675657

[novel horizon]

idk what's "banning all black people" like how do you know who is black on your mc server

[warm anchor]

<@&748618676189528155> really bad troll^

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?ban @low imp troll

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned hecker#6683 (troll) [1 total infraction] -- Proximyst#6900.

[novel horizon]

[warm anchor]

Proxi epic?

[novel horizon]

you mean Mariell :p

[warm anchor]

Now my message looks like I am saying shadow is bad troll

[novel horizon]

maybe i am a bad troll

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@warm anchor I enjoy how nobody noticed that I did the mod of the month in your server before the month began because I forgot july has 31 days

[warm anchor]

[novel horizon]

🤟

this is love you gesture? what

[unreal quarry]

🤘

[novel horizon]

[warm anchor]

@limpid comet once you done with stuff I will screen cap it for my guide so people can see and click it

[limpid comet]

Ok hottie

ignore "the scirpts to use" i know

but, hot?

[novel horizon]

pog

krusic has flags too? 😮

[limpid comet]

yes, for ZGC

[novel horizon]

oh ^^

looks nice

inb4 someone asks what to choose

"should i choose linux or windows" "what are you using" "linux" "well then choose linux"

[vestal jasper]

@warm anchor your bot STINKS

[novel horizon]

ew

[vestal jasper]

I literally linked to a message in ur announcements

[novel horizon]

imagine that

bad bot 😠

[warm anchor]

[novel horizon]

is craftingstore good to use? thinking about trying it 🤷‍♂️

[warm anchor]

Fixed! @vestal jasper you get the epic role

[novel horizon]

[vestal jasper]

bet

[novel horizon]

I'm gonna try craftingstore 👀

and use cmi with clearlagg 😠

also with ccleaner

and other cleaning programs

gamebooster and such

[serene bolt]

please no

[novel horizon]

you forced my hand

well not you specifically

🤔

nah I'm not gonna do that

CMI costs money so

[viscid wedge]

What the fuck even is CMI

Like I know what it is

But why use it

[novel horizon]

it's everything

🪄

[warm anchor]

@novel horizon you forgot to install all the “epic” plugins

[novel horizon]

oh right

i removed ultimatetimber some time ago btw

because they bad 😠

also you know what's funny

that plugin did this..

Well I think at least, lol

[warm anchor]

Sounds about right

[novel horizon]

nothing else messes with durability

one player was like.. hey.. is it supposed to be like that?

[warm anchor]

Do you need a better tree taller

[novel horizon]

why you have one?

I found a lot of them, but this one was the only one that was okay to use, not some dumb fancy animations etc., just tree disappear, done

[warm anchor]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/treeassist.67436/ @novel horizon

I am your neighborhood plugin dealer sir

[novel horizon]

pop4959 there 👀

[warm anchor]

Yes

[novel horizon]

wtf no 1.17 shown 😠 bad

[warm anchor]

I only recommend good shit 😉

Still works

[novel horizon]

I removed it, but idk if I should bring it back

I wanna remove Jobs later

[warm anchor]

Cutting tree is nice and make world less ugly

[novel horizon]

don't force me

I'll click join now 😠

[warm anchor]

It was the only reason I used

For bluemap

[novel horizon]

hang out with songoda staff irl

[warm anchor]

Wtf

[novel horizon]

they'll host my mc server with 14GB of RAM at songodahost

oh my god

i totally forgot this lol

[warm anchor]

I’d rather eat md_5’s ass

[novel horizon]

wouldn't anyone?

❤️

[viscid wedge]

@warm anchor post plugin folder

[novel horizon]

what do you mean soup

are you crazy

you need to hide plugins

otherwise they can get into your server

some people actually told me i'm dumb because I don't hide plugins

[warm anchor]

I actually don’t have much. I own a small SMP that’s about it coz my community hop games a lot

[novel horizon]

"wtf you are supposed to do that they'll hack you"

||[08:12:10 INFO]: Plugins (41): AntiWorldFly, ArmorStandTools, AuthMe, AutoMessager, BlueMap, ChestCommands, ChestShop, ChestShopNotifier, Citizens, CMILib, CoreProtect, EntityDetection, Essentials, EssentialsChat, EssentialsDiscord, EssentialsSpawn, HeadsPlus, HolographicDisplays, Jobs, LiteBans, LuckPerms, MCGBluemapEssentials, MineableSpawners, MobLimit, Multiverse-Core, Multiverse-Inventories, OpenInv, PlaceholderAPI, Plan, PowerlessLamps*, ProtocolLib, Residence, Shopkeepers, SkinsRestorer, SuperVanish, TabList, Vault, Votifier, VotingPlugin, WorldEdit, WorldGuard||

[unreal quarry]

AuthMe

[novel horizon]

👀

[unreal quarry]

jfc

[novel horizon]

yep it is me

offline mode

[warm anchor]

No AntiVPN and AntiBot

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pepega mode

[novel horizon]

authme has okay antibot 👀

[warm anchor]

Leaf

Go sleep

Wtf!

[viscid wedge]

this guy got some cringe plugins

But I'll respect it

[warm anchor]

Shadow is trolling you guys

[novel horizon]

wtf if I was trolling then I'd have cmi with clearlagg

and viaversion

and plugman and chatcontrol

[warm anchor]

Where’s chatcontorl

Slime fun + mysticmob

[novel horizon]

oh that too, true

i forgot

forgive me

my master

[viscid wedge]

How is the EssentialsX Discord add-on?

[novel horizon]

I'm okay with the plugins I use, I would switch few, but also others are kinda forced a bit

Great

[warm anchor]

Great. I use it

Also I made this cursed thing if you wanna see my simple plugin list. @viscid wedge https://eternity.community/index.php/paper-optimization/#Quality-of-Life

Omg Thsts so cute on embed

[novel horizon]

tabtps nad minimotd 👀

wait

let me download mobstacker plugin

and datapacks

[warm anchor]

True. Download all datapack with functions

[novel horizon]

while downloading the jars of paid plugin from unknown sources

:OOOO

https://auri.gay/top-secret

[warm anchor]

[fringe mural]

hey

how come my friend cant join, i can and itsportfoward and we are both on the same version

[novel horizon]

we don't know

[warm anchor]

Your friend isn’t in your house isn’t him

[fringe mural]

no

[warm anchor]

You will need to open port and port forward

[fringe mural]

i did dat

thats the thing..

[novel horizon]

he said it's portforward 😠

can he connect to you at all, kyuu?

[fringe mural]

no not at all

[warm anchor]

While your server is running

https://canyouseeme.org/

[fringe mural]

yessy

[warm anchor]

Enter your info there

[fringe mural]

i am in it

[novel horizon]

and he is connecting to the IP right?

did he specify port or not? it should work even without, but just asking

[merry crystal]

มีใครเป็นคนไทย

[fringe mural]

he did not port, and yes he is joining

well

let me try another ip

[novel horizon]

what does it say for him or for you in the console?

[merry crystal]

มีใครเป็นคนไทย

[novel horizon]

english pls no thai

[fringe mural]

this is what he is gettin

[novel horizon]

seems like he can't connect at all, lol

[warm anchor]

ค

[novel horizon]

maybe it's on his side?

can he ping you or so?

[fringe mural]

he was able to join my other servers, under the same ip

but with papermc he cant join

wdym ping

[novel horizon]

😠 should i use one or what

if it worked before and now it doesn't.. it's hard to guess what can cause that

[unreal quarry]

when in doubt, blame solar flares

[warm anchor]

What’s the port got bind your server to

You mentioned “other” server are they running in same PC

[novel horizon]

papers fault 😠

[viscid wedge]

Looked through this, it's pretty nice

[novel horizon]

Eternity now i'm in doubts if I should use one really

but prob not

[warm anchor]

if you don’t get bot issue you don’t

Usually it’s the bigger public server that got targeted

[warm anchor]

I put my love into it

[novel horizon]

I got, but authme got it

yeah very lovely guide ❤️

[warm anchor]

@ krusic for premium authme support

[novel horizon]

I'm getting songoda+ subscription you forced me to do that

and for only $50 a month they'll also host my server

win win right

https://serverjars.com this is

autoupdater

must download right now

https://github.com/ServerJars/updater

damn they got over 200 patron on patreon? :/

[viscid wedge]

Thanks I hate it

this website should have been aborted. what was their web designer thinking?

jesus.

[novel horizon]

it's not that bad

[warm anchor]

For $50 I can get 10 McNugget meals

[novel horizon]

how many nuggets is that

[warm anchor]

100