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blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:22 PM

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holy shit that's really impressive

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Whenever you see a cloud system, you know it's from germany

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:22 PM

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nice work

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 5:22 PM

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well no there's viaversion, viabackwards & viarewind

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worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 5:23 PM

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1.7-1.17 :p

quasi valley Jul 25, 2021, 5:23 PM

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the plan is to bump the required Java version at some point and use so many of the features people can't just compile with Java 8 again kappapride

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:23 PM

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ours is a hogepoge of garbage that just happens to work because we sacrifice virgins to it frequently

quasi valley Jul 25, 2021, 5:23 PM

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lmao

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:23 PM

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fortunately in minecraft we have ample supply

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Well, once you get 1 to 2 and 2 to 3, you also get n to n+1

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I wonder if new versions could be data driven in via

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:24 PM

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that would necessitate more code-as-data than we currently have

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e.g. functionality would need to be in data, too

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Like, extracting the current protocol definition is already possible

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:24 PM

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not just packet structures

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 5:24 PM

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quasi valley the plan is to bump the required Java version at some point and use so many of t...

That is a very cursed attempt, waiting for someone to revert it all back lmao

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:24 PM

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I never looked at via to be able to know how much is actually manually handled

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:24 PM

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I imagine it's a lot of pipelining

quasi valley Jul 25, 2021, 5:24 PM

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mossy vessel That is a very cursed attempt, waiting for someone to revert it all back lmao

well, removing 1.8 code means literally just reverting the revert for some random guy with the new Via fork™️ omegaroll

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:25 PM

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but still a human has to understand what the intent is behind "we received packet updateinventorysomething"

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to build that pipeline

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you could automate some of the menial stuff

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"data type changed from int to long"

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etc

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but I don't think you'd ever get to a point where it "just works" automagically

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unless it's a patch with a bugfix with barely any protocol changes

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 5:26 PM

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quasi valley well, removing 1.8 code means literally just reverting the revert for some rando...

you do that over time. Some enhanced switches here and there stretching the progress for months so it's a fun ride to revert that PepeLaugh

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:27 PM

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what java version is base MC up to nowadays?

modern steppe Jul 25, 2021, 5:27 PM

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can someone decode this kinda strange file, literally repeats word or something

📎 chipher.txt

upbeat falconBOT Jul 25, 2021, 5:27 PM

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modern steppe can someone decode this kinda strange file, literally repeats word or something

Pastebin

chipher.txt

https://paste.gg/0b155b67991e46c196b656efe47bebdf

quasi valley Jul 25, 2021, 5:27 PM

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16, just recently bumped by le Mojang

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:28 PM

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it's a base64'd ascii art @modern steppe

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you actually asking for help or just trolling

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https://www.base64decode.org/

Base64 Decode

Base64 Decode and Encode - Online

Decode from Base64 format or encode into it with various advanced options. Our site has an easy to use online tool to convert your data.

modern steppe Jul 25, 2021, 5:28 PM

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blissful wing you actually asking for help or just trolling

troll

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:28 PM

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kk

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Average PaperMC Discord member.

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:29 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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doesn't cost me anything

modern steppe Jul 25, 2021, 5:29 PM

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vale rune Average PaperMC Discord member.

yes

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 5:29 PM

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vale rune Average PaperMC Discord member.

BRO!

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 5:29 PM

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BRO!

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:29 PM

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BRO!

modern steppe Jul 25, 2021, 5:29 PM

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BRO!

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 5:29 PM

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AgentK is Albanian too now

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Fact!

modern steppe Jul 25, 2021, 5:30 PM

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agree

minor badge Jul 25, 2021, 5:30 PM

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michale peepoLove

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 5:30 PM

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happeepoheart

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:30 PM

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You just met the Balkan paper user group

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Hereby charged with stealing Serbian* territory daily.

Actually Albanian.

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Actually, is Croatia Balkan?

minor badge Jul 25, 2021, 5:30 PM

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yes

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Western Balkan countries – Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Since am actually in Croatia right now, have I entered the forbidden land?

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 5:30 PM

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BRO!

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:30 PM

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there

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changed my nick to fit in

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:32 PM

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You now promoting LGBTQ propaganda and thus can't enter Hungary anymore

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:32 PM

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good didn't want to anyway

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Same 😂

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:32 PM

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actually that's a lie

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anywhere that lets me travel i want to go

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gotta get all my travels in before the Gamma variant locks down the whole planet again

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:33 PM

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I drove thru like 3 countries to reach Croatia

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We all vaccinated so it was easy

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:33 PM

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https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/10/21-1427_article

Emerging Infectious Diseases journal

Breakthrough Infections of SARS-CoV-2 Gamma Variant in Fully Vaccin...

Breakthrough Infections of SARS-CoV-2 Gamma Variant

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Now drive through two countries, one of them being the one you're already in, to reach Croatia.

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If you haven't a problem with non-existent highways.

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🇧🇦

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Why do so many people drive to croatia

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Because an ocean doesn't divide us from it.

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:34 PM

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ill be honest i don't even know where croatia is

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is it in the EU?

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Cause we got a miss "i am scared of planes" on the team

worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 5:34 PM

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mossy vessel Why do so many people _drive_ to croatia

netherlands ❤️

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:34 PM

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East of italy

wide chasm Jul 25, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Yes, EU

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:34 PM

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ok so they drive because then can

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lol

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just like i drive to chicago because i can

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:34 PM

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We drive because we must, 1200km

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Based country, grabbed the entire coastline.

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:34 PM

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yeah about the distance from virginia to chicago

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Bruh.

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Croatia is a fun country, stole all the coast from bosnia

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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but is it nice coast

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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vernal moth Cause we got a miss "i am scared of planes" on the team

welp, actually not as bad as I assumed https://i.imgur.com/5xnapHO.png

Imgur

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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or rocky coast

wide chasm Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Rocky

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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I thought it'd be like a 2d drive

wide chasm Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Don't think I've seen sand beaches in Croatia

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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We got a madlad bus driver who drove all the way here

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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lol

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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THAT is even more cursed

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:35 PM

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(no bus, just car, but he's still the bus driver)

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:36 PM

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course

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Well, we took small breaks and stuff but yeah

worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 5:36 PM

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wide chasm Don't think I've seen sand beaches in Croatia

therefore i prefer the netherlands thinksmart & the food & the speech

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:36 PM

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not as long of a drive, but as mad of a trip

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:36 PM

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We also all didn't sleep the day prior and drove thru the night to avoid traffic

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:36 PM

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rented a 16-seater van to get everyone from LAX to anaheim

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and a big SUV for all the luggage

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top memes

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almost died like twice

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i was the driver

wide chasm Jul 25, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Sand beaches are nicer, but the Croatian sea is much better than in the Netherlands imo

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Oh don't get me started on the car situation, we planned to take my parents focus, cause it's a big car, but my sister drove to baveria and came back with broken servo pump, and the service center fixed it, but it leaked, and they didn't manage to fix the leak in 5 days

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 5:37 PM

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I haven't been to Croatia more than 2 times or so, but a looot of people I know go there each year/holliday

worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 5:38 PM

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wide chasm Sand beaches are nicer, but the Croatian sea is much better than in the Netherla...

yeah blue beaches and the netherlands dont fit

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:38 PM

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So we had to ask one of our grandparents to steal their car, I had to drive using a hybrid car now 🤮

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But hybrids aren't as bad as I thought

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 5:38 PM

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As long as they drive panda_shrug

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Croatia is a beautiful country so I wouldn't mind going here each year, could get boring after a while tho

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 5:39 PM

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And don't lose a tire

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Well, hybrid means carrying a massive battery with you, it's really not efficient

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:39 PM

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depends

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how the drivetrain works

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some hybrids are electric drivetrain with an efficient small generator

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Yeah, it charges downhill, it's really nice to drive thru cities here now

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:40 PM

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some hybrids use a combined combo drivetrain

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Nah this is a German BMW so it's dum

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:40 PM

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ah yeah if it charges then it's a big battery

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:40 PM

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It's a plug in hybrid technically

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:40 PM

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yup

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:40 PM

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But only 30km range on electric

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:40 PM

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got a friend who has a non-plug in hybrid

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just makes it more efficient

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:40 PM

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And we can't charge here, we only charge via recuperation

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:40 PM

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gets like 60mpg city driving

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sadge

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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But since we on a hill so it still works

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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i can't live without my model3's torque

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so much fun

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Heh why am I not surprised you got a Tesla

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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and actually makes driving a bit safer

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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I wish I could drive an EV

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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being able to get up to speed or dart across traffic

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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I actually have the money now

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But it sadly makes no sense since A) I want a really small car and B) I am in a flat with no on site parking, so no charging at home

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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my advice on EVs, do not buy them for the savings, you can get a really nice car for lower than an EV costs

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but if you want them because you want them, go for it

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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My dad brought a second gen Nissan leaf when it got out, that's really nice

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And he has solar panels so it's literally free energy

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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nice

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yeah I'm considering doing solar at my house

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got some quotes pending

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but I need to see what the actual solar coverage is at my latitude

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Plus gov paid extra for the car since he has solar, and the charger was fully free too

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Meanwhile in belgium: you gotta pay to put your energy back on the grid

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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oof

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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We sell energy for half the price than we pay

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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I'm also hoping that solar density keeps the current trajectory

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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So not good but not bad

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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and we get 500W residential panels in a year or two

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they're already up to 400W

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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But my dad has the EV and a battery too, so we use all our energy and never sell

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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powerwall-esc?

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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yeah thats the best scenario

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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My dad has 7kw peak

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Yeah kinda but cheaper and stuff

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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see I just don't want to be stuck in a scenario where I buy $20k of solar panels

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and then in 2 years they come out with 30% more powerful panels for the same price

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:45 PM

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https://www.sma.de/en/products/battery-inverters/sunny-boy-storage-37-50-60.html

SUNNY BOY STORAGE 3.7 / 5.0 / 6.0

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This one I think

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:45 PM

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like right now if everything works the way it's supposed to, ROI is like 20 years for most residential installations

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:45 PM

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20k? That's expensive

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:45 PM

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I want to get that down to 5 years

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:45 PM

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we wanted to put a windmill in our backyard but we werent allowed cuz it obscures the view (we have one neighbor in a 500m radius) meanwhile there are 3 full size windmills not even a km from my door kekwhyper

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Don't panels cost like 200 euro each?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:45 PM

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depends the density

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I'd want 400W panels

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because I have a tall house with not much roof compared to some

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Panel prices went down crazy here, especially since Germany is actually producing them again

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:46 PM

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but I also use a metric shit ton of power

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I think I used 3.2megawatt hours last month

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:46 PM

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You got a homelab?

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:46 PM

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we have a building which is perfect but the roof is in too bad of a condition to put panels on it

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:46 PM

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As in, basement server rack

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Or why is it that bad?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:47 PM

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yes

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among other things

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yeah I used 3250kwh last month

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lol

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combination of:

server rack in the basement

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model 3 charging

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:47 PM

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dude casually using 3MW/month

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:48 PM

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I keep the aircon set to 19.4C

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big house

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:48 PM

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A coworker brought a battery pack for his solar and now uses it just for his servers, replaced his usv, runs servers just on solar now

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Oh aircon

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:48 PM

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yes

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that's the bulk of it

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:48 PM

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thats cool

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:48 PM

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lol

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Well, with that kinda power bill, you can use all energy you produce so it should be a no-brainer

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In Germany all big supermarket chains suddenly put solar on all their stores

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:49 PM

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well gotta pay for it still

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:49 PM

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yeah but like I said, panels are expensive here

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esp the high density ones

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I also think I can only install on the back part of my roof

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e.g. the part not visible from the street

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because of HOA rules 😦

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Not because they wanna be seen as green or smth, but because somebody did the math and they had a ROI of just a few years, lol

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:49 PM

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probably get benefits from the state for doing so

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:49 PM

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some yeah

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:49 PM

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They also offer free charging for EVs at most places to get rid of excess energy, it's so nice

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:49 PM

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like I said I'm getting some quotes from diff companies

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if it makes sense I'll go for it

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but only if the ROI is <8 years

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:50 PM

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how long do panels last anyway?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:50 PM

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I think they're rated for the lifetime fo the roof

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so 25y

wide chasm Jul 25, 2021, 5:50 PM

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We couldn't install panels on front either, but the installers said we could, so we were asked to remove them. Sued the government, somehow won, so now we have them on front and back :)

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:50 PM

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but they also decay in an inverse logarithmic curve

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:50 PM

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15+ years at least, yeah

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:50 PM

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nice @wide chasm

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:51 PM

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when in doubt just sue them

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and if that doesnt work, just appeal and sue them again

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:51 PM

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#murica

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:51 PM

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its a EU thing too

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:51 PM

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If I had a house and it would made kinda sense, even with a kinda big ROI, I would still do it if I had the extra money, because it's the right thing to do

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:51 PM

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here in belgium you can appeal 2x i think

wide chasm Jul 25, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Literally everyone seems to be suing the government here nowadays for some reason

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:52 PM

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oh I will 100% have solar in the time I own this house @vernal moth

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:52 PM

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And even if I lose a few percent of my money, at least am part of the solution and not the problem

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:52 PM

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for a variety of reasons

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it's more of

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"if a brand new macbook pro is about to be announced, don't buy the current gen"

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lol

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:52 PM

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Oh yeah you wanna do it right

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:52 PM

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and panels have been improving drastically recently

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:52 PM

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now you're part of the chemical polution /s

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:53 PM

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https://us.sunpower.com/solar-panels-technology/a-series-solar-panels these are one of the ones I'm looking at getting a quote from

SunPower - United States

A-Series Solar Panels

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:54 PM

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worn ember *now you're part of the chemical polution* /s

Well, for that we got solutions, for co2 pollution we don't

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:54 PM

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21.4% efficient

ionic island Jul 25, 2021, 5:54 PM

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PaperMC logo is so similar with Telegram logo, i just noticed this

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:55 PM

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Because it's source from some icon set, lol

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:55 PM

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0.293W/mm2

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:55 PM

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vernal moth Well, for that we got solutions, for co2 pollution we don't

technically we do they're just not very good

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theres co scrubbers and other types

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:55 PM

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A solution that doesn't work at scale economically isn't a solution ^^

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:56 PM

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20 years ago solar wasnt a solution either 😉

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Man, can't I be 10 years older?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:56 PM

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so what, 3 watts per square cm?

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:56 PM

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I wanna buy a house too

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I wanna buy an apartment first but that's impossible

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And house for me alone doesn't make any sense 😂

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:56 PM

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don't worry, bigcorp will buy out all houses in the city you want to live

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and rent them to you

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🙃

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:57 PM

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ground prices are so high here sad

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Oh no houses in my city already

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:57 PM

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you should see it here in america

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:57 PM

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300eur/m²

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:57 PM

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I would need to move to suburbs, which is fine, cause I wouldn't commute every day anyways

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:57 PM

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so many investment companies buying up as much real estate as they possibly can

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Right now am living 5min by bike from office

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:57 PM

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they are buying entire neighborhoods in the suburbs

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:58 PM

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stonks

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:58 PM

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We got a bit of regulation against shit like that

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:58 PM

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the new model is "houses, but like apartments"

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all maintenance covered

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lawncare

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etc

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:58 PM

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yeah we got those popping up here too

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Yeah don't think you can pull that off here

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:58 PM

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city governments are somewhat onboard with it

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they'd rather be negotiating with a single corporate entity

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:58 PM

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spacious appartments like 3/4 stories high

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Many cities only allow you to buy for your own usage

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:58 PM

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than 10k random humans

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oh that's fundamentally un-american

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sounds great, i love it

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:59 PM

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American suburbs are strange anyways

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:59 PM

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if we only needed for our own usage we wouldn't have invaded iraq

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Like the home owner association shit

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 5:59 PM

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its not like murica is short on ground

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 5:59 PM

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yeah HOA is really weird

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it's a real legal entity that I own a single share of

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a regulated legal entity, in fact

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there's an entire statute in the state law about what an HOA can and can't do

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:00 PM

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We got that small scale for apartment buildings

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:00 PM

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are those the guys that complain if you paint your fence the wrong color?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:00 PM

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oh yeah it makes a lot of sense if you physically share a wall with someone

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:00 PM

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just paint your own side

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:00 PM

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because you kinda need an arbiter

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Yeah also for roof, basement, outer walls etc

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But for neighborhoods it's stupid

broken rampart Jul 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Did someone mention hypixel or something

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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fundamentally the HOA boils down to "I don't really care what you do, but I want to be able to sell my house for the highest possible value whenever I feel like it, so don't do anything weird"

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yes originally @broken rampart

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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lol

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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hello there

broken rampart Jul 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Makes sense, hello

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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how's life

broken rampart Jul 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Chillin

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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cool

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Like, I sometimes see posts on social media where ppl complain your car looks to shitty to be parked in this neighborhood

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:02 PM

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our neighborhood has rules about exterior parking yeah

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"must be street-legal"

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:02 PM

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I would embrace that and buy a creepy van and paint it funny

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:02 PM

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"must not be a commercial vehicle"

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so no vehicles with ads or commercial markings

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:02 PM

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Man, I would be such a terrible neighborhood

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:02 PM

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or vehicles that exist for commercial use, like trucks

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pickups are fine

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:02 PM

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When I think something is wrong I treat rules as guidelines and see how far I can push, lol

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:02 PM

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Man, I would be such a terrible neighborhood

MiniDigger 2021

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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lmao yeah you're the guy the HOA hates

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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Gboard strikes again DED

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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my strategy so far has been "impress them, be polite, be efficient, and then take over the board next time someone steps down"

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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I just like discussing shit

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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ez

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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blissful wing my strategy so far has been "impress them, be polite, be efficient, and then tak...

pepegenius

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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But that is so much work

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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true

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that's why I delegated most of it to my partner

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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Like once you are on the board you gotta deal with that whole circlejerk

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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I like it, the slow take over

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:03 PM

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:3

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:04 PM

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politics in a nutshell

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:04 PM

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vernal moth Like once you are on the board you gotta deal with that whole circlejerk

github.com/papermc irl

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:04 PM

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it's funny everyone in my culdesac does tech stuff

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we're thinking of getting a 10G fiber and making our own ISP

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:04 PM

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inb4 no gaming on the porch after 10pm

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Well, thats nice, common interests and stuff

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:05 PM

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"no downloading on the network after 9pm"

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:05 PM

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xD

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:05 PM

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MitM it and then report your neighbors when they bad bois

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:05 PM

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I doubt I'd be able to

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guy across the street works for fireeye

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Culdesac ISP sounds like hella fun tho

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:06 PM

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That's honestly a fair responsibility homebrewing an ISP

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You're your own Abuse team

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:06 PM

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until something breaks

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Like, if you got network guys, thats such a fun side project

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Networking is hell. kekwhyper

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:06 PM

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I'd probably put up culdesac-wide guest wifi

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:3

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:06 PM

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"Welcome to XSt-Guest"

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:07 PM

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"AgentK we told you 3 times already to not stick the fork in the ethernet port!!"

lone cave Jul 25, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Dear paper mc community are there any working dupes on 1.17 paper mc I’m asking since I have an smp and don’t want any of my friends duping?

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:07 PM

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A coworker of mine is into "Freifunk", idk if that's a thing elsewhere, but it's basically an initiative to provide free wifi country wide

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:07 PM

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lone cave Dear paper mc community are there any working dupes on 1.17 paper mc I’m asking ...

If you mean 1.17.1, you're good to go if you just stay on the latest version

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Everybody with a router is encouraged to provide a guest wifi with certain settings and they got a giant map and connect everything

wide chasm Jul 25, 2021, 6:07 PM

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lone cave Dear paper mc community are there any working dupes on 1.17 paper mc I’m asking ...

No, no dupes exist that we are aware of

charred sleet Jul 25, 2021, 6:07 PM

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vernal moth A coworker of mine is into "Freifunk", idk if that's a thing elsewhere, but it's...

that would be cool but probably terrible security and speed

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:07 PM

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we already have that in america on a corporate scale

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Xfinity!

lone cave Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Does that work on 1.17?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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everyone who has xfinity is passively broadcasting xfinityguest

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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1.17 is unsupported, update

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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yup

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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vernal moth A coworker of mine is into "Freifunk", idk if that's a thing elsewhere, but it's...

ah yes, Telenet provides "free internet" for all the subscribers by having all routers have a hotspot with 50kb/s up and down

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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1.17 got multiple exploits that are fixed in 1.17.1

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Same goes for if you have an Amazon device, you're broadcasting your internet to Amazon Sidewalk.

lone cave Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Ok cool

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Yeah, ISP wide there are opt in/opt out models for that kinda stuff

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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they're all shit tho

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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That's where they get you

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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in america at least

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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There's no opting out of xfinity guest

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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But Freifunk is community driven

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:08 PM

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yup

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you have to just bring your own router

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if you use theirs, it broadcasts it

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no opt-out

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:09 PM

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Their router sucks for a bunch of reasons

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:09 PM

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That wouldn't be legal most likely here

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:09 PM

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and that's on TOP of xfinity MITM'ing everything upstream anyway

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:09 PM

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The 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz channels are two different networks

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The router doesn't have the setting to put them in the same lan

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:09 PM

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rip

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i've got ubiquiti gear everywhere

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5 APs across the house

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seamless roaming

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😍

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:09 PM

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When it works. kekwhyper

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:10 PM

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I actually have to have different ssids st home for 2.4 vs 5 cause my Soundbar can't deal with sharing the SSID, cause it doesn't support 5ghz

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:10 PM

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if it isn't working just spend more money

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ez

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:10 PM

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peak ginkgo The router doesn't have the setting to put them in the same lan

AP Isolation^^, it should be disabled but Xfinity forces it

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:10 PM

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I got a ubiquity AP too

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:10 PM

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that's ubiquiti's advice

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Totally overkill for my flat

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:10 PM

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tbh same

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Ubiquiti nerfed old hardware to hell.

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:10 PM

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lemme find a pic

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:10 PM

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But, I got it set to Japan outdoor Mode, so I got wifi at the ice cafe on the other side of the street 😂

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And at the tram station

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:11 PM

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ignore my cable management

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:12 PM

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Uh fancy

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:12 PM

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gonna pull LC fiber in bulk to the attic

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and I'll tie it all down then

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:13 PM

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what is that white trashcan in the back?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:13 PM

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PDU at the top, rackmount cloud key, 2 patch panels, UXG-Pro, 24-port switch, main 10G aggregation switch, 48-port PoE switch, raspberry pi cluster, CCTV hub, big boi AMD server box, big boi UPS

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fios provided gateway

worn ember Jul 25, 2021, 6:13 PM

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lmao

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:13 PM

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had an outage the other day, thought it was my gear so swapped back to stock, still happened, reported outage

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:13 PM

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Oh that's a server

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:14 PM

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yup

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Was wondering where the server is, thought it was just networking, lol

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:14 PM

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128G RAM, AMD desktop processor

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don't remember which one

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:14 PM

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What do you use the rpi cluster for?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:14 PM

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3950x processor I think

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rpi is a mix of things

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but you can see it in there

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all the small white patch cables next to each other

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Yeah I see the rpis

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:15 PM

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they're all PoE powered

worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 6:15 PM

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blissful wing

selfhosting or only for building it together?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:15 PM

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just for fun

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:15 PM

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That's a homelab

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:15 PM

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my production rig wouldn't fit in my basement

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60x 40U racks

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Just for hytale? You already run that much stuff?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:16 PM

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my house isn't zoned to pull 15k amps

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nah that's hypixel MC

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Was about to say, lol

worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 6:16 PM

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thats a lot 😄

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Sounds like you need some unlocked EPYC 64 core chips.

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:16 PM

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^ halve the amount of racks with EPYC

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PepeLa

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Bro! n/4!

worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 6:17 PM

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server cpu + mc
nah 😄

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:17 PM

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I don't think hypixel runs exclusively on gaming chips, don't think that makes much sense

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:17 PM

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EPYC isn't a gaming chip

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Then again, I haven't run any servers in like 6 years

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Replying to Galaxis

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:19 PM

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hypixel MC runs almost exclusively on E3-127X

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:19 PM

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So old trash.

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:19 PM

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however we just purchased $1m of AMD big boi machines

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which are getting racked in the next month or so

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Figured

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Those better be classified semi custom.

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:20 PM

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so we shall see

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hm?

worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 6:20 PM

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ashen cliff So old trash.

i thought my i7 4470 was old vreecoLaugh

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:20 PM

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AyyMD offers custom EPYC chips. So, stuff like less PCIe, better memory clocks, better power efficiency, ...

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:21 PM

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oh you mean that

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can't talk about that ;3

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but we're also running them in blade configuration

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think we got https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/microcloud/

MicroCloud | Supermicro

Integrate compute, storage, networking and virtualization resources with Supermicro's MicroCloud servers without sacrificing performance.

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:21 PM

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https://tenor.com/2qJf.gif

Tenor

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Instantly assumed Supermicro. kekwhyper

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:21 PM

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they're the only real choice nowadays

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unless you LIKE getting shafted by dell or HP

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when they discontinue an old line

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:22 PM

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And CPU locking. kekwhyper

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:22 PM

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or have enough money to "force" them to keep it alive

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:22 PM

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mm yes really love those dell shit web uis

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still requiring IE 6 and ActiveX to manage things

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:23 PM

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ah actually we use SBE-820J-822

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so SuperBlade

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it's our first real foray into colo'ing instead of renting

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our 1800 or so E3's are all rented

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at great pricing sure, but still renting

merry talon Jul 25, 2021, 6:24 PM

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hypickle server auction when

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Just flood eBay. Again.

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:25 PM

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👀

merry talon Jul 25, 2021, 6:25 PM

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since I'll never get my hands on a wow one 😔

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:26 PM

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well I mean right now we're running E3s that we started renting 6 years ago

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we literally run them till they physically die

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swap the failed part

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and put them back in

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:26 PM

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minecraft server hosts

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:26 PM

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yup

merry talon Jul 25, 2021, 6:26 PM

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pepela

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:26 PM

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cheap, efficient, and it works

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we lose 1 host per day roughly

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so based on those numbers, probably in 6 years @merry talon

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lol

merry talon Jul 25, 2021, 6:27 PM

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lol

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plenty of time to give each one a special name

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:28 PM

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I hate codenaming servers I never remember which word is which

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:28 PM

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we just name them miniX

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where X is the number

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:30 PM

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We don't even name stuff anymore, just Location-MAC.

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:30 PM

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https://u.dejay.dev/🐋🐳🌬.png

this means something

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:30 PM

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yup

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instance T on mini761

little frost Jul 25, 2021, 6:30 PM

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then are mega servers on different hardware, or just less instancing?

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:31 PM

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so i actually died immediately after taking that screenshot

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no comment.

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:31 PM

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identical boxes, but separate pool

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with only 5 instances per host

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rather than 22

little frost Jul 25, 2021, 6:31 PM

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understandable

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:31 PM

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also proportionally more RAM

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same 32GB for the host, but higher per-instance allocation

worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 6:33 PM

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22 instances so 1gig for a mini instance?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:33 PM

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roughly yeah

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I think 1.1?

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and then we save ~500mb for the host OS

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:33 PM

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That's a lot left for the OS.

worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 6:34 PM

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22 * 1,1 = 24,2 or like that 😄 much for debian

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:34 PM

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Infrastructure is really hard I just ping Michael

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:35 PM

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Infrastructure is easy, unless you go and complicate it for no good reason.

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:37 PM

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it's not just the OS

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sorry bad ping

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Sir, we don't need triple redundant networking.
kekwhyper

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:37 PM

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what if my minecraft server goes offline >:(

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Bro.

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Kubernetes.

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:37 PM

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sshd, some logging daemons, salt minion

broken rampart Jul 25, 2021, 6:37 PM

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triple redundant networking is easy, the real dealbreaker is when they don't have triple redundant roofs

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:37 PM

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and if we're syncing maps or something that needs a few hundred mb of ram

whole prawn Jul 25, 2021, 6:37 PM

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blissful wing sorry bad ping

you can also reply like this 😉

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:37 PM

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You could fit that into 21 MB. kekwhyper

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:38 PM

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broken rampart triple redundant networking is easy, the real dealbreaker is when they don't hav...

Not just upstream, the whole thing.

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:38 PM

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paul #625768024057577473 message

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:38 PM

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triple redundant roofs are easy, the real dealbreaker is when your DC burns down because they can't replace a power cord

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:38 PM

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They wanted everything, sockets, APs, switches, ...

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:38 PM

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blissful wing and if we're syncing maps or something that needs a few hundred mb of ram

huh, buffering everything into ram and then copying from ram to disk?

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Yes

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:38 PM

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just a git pull

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:38 PM

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i see

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:38 PM

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but the minis are happy as is, giving them each 20MB more RAM won't change much

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:39 PM

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I've always been a fan of just pasting a schematic then sending players after thats done

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schematics just suck to update

charred sleet Jul 25, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Wait does riot own hypickle

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:40 PM

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i just implemented a service which tells a server to generate a world to me

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all parameters are cached, if there's a match, previous world tarball will be sent

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:40 PM

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charred sleet Wait does riot own hypickle

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:40 PM

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lmao

whole prawn Jul 25, 2021, 6:40 PM

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charred sleet Wait does riot own hypickle

only the hypixel studios part as far as i know

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:40 PM

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PepeLa

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:41 PM

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@charred sleet https://www.riotgames.com/en/news/riot-games-acquires-hypixel-studios

Riot Games

Riot Games Acquires Hypixel Studios, Developer of Upcoming Block Ga...

Hypixel Studios to operate as an independent studio while leveraging Riot expertise to develop Hytale.

whole prawn Jul 25, 2021, 6:41 PM

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though we have a person here that can tell how it is really

charred sleet Jul 25, 2021, 6:41 PM

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blissful wing <@!392347881648029696> https://www.riotgames.com/en/news/riot-games-acquires-hyp...

Huh cool

summer barn Jul 25, 2021, 6:41 PM

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@void void basically regenerate a world and make a backup of the existing one?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:41 PM

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yeah they only own "Hypixel Studios", which is making Hytale

charred sleet Jul 25, 2021, 6:41 PM

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Riiiiight

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:41 PM

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summer barn <@456226577798135808> basically regenerate a world and make a backup of the exis...

not sure what you mean

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:41 PM

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"Hypixel Inc" which runs the MC server, is totally separate

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although we're all friends

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:41 PM

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The studio and minecraft server are two different entities if it wasn't clear

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Hypixel 🤝 Also Hypixel

charred sleet Jul 25, 2021, 6:41 PM

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That seems, weird

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Wasn't hypixel friends with riot before all this too?

charred sleet Jul 25, 2021, 6:42 PM

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But makes sense

summer barn Jul 25, 2021, 6:42 PM

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just implemented a service which tells a server to generate a world to me
[1:40 PM]
all parameters are cached, if there's a match, previous world tarball will be sent

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Noxi is ex rito iirc

summer barn Jul 25, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Or backup restore service

charred sleet Jul 25, 2021, 6:42 PM

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vernal moth Wasn't hypixel friends with riot before all this too?

I mean riot are pretty cool people

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:42 PM

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part of the purpose of our original investment round was to unburden the MC server, remember we operated two companies with just the profits from the MC server

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:42 PM

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summer barn just implemented a service which tells a server to generate a world to me [1:40 ...

There is no "regenerate"

This is: Pregenerate.
I request world1, then world2. Two worlds are made
I go rerequest world1 and instead of generating world1 i've already got it on my disk

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:42 PM

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which wasn't sustainable with how MC was trending downwards in the end of 2018

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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I love spending all day waiting for CI pipelines to finish. Come work at Noxcrew, it's great if you like waiting :))

summer barn Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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ah

charred sleet Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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blissful wing which wasn't sustainable with how MC was trending downwards in the end of 2018

Keyword being “wasn’t” lmao

summer barn Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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was confused by wording

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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heady spear I love spending all day waiting for CI pipelines to finish. Come work at Noxcrew...

Looks like you wanna optimize them a bit

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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switching to gradle made this worse fwiw

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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summer barn just implemented a service which tells a server to generate a world to me [1:40 ...

I queue a world generation task with specific instruction (seed, generator, schematics, how many chunks to pregenerate)
if world with given instructions was previously generated, serve it (I store world tarballs in minio bucket)
otherwise generate it, upload to minio and serve

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Yes @twin lagoon

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Make them FASTER

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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don't look at me

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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stupid monorepo

summer barn Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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ah

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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look at who's decision it was to make it a monorepo

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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So slow zzzzz

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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heady spear switching to gradle made this worse fwiw

Gradle remote build caches!

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz do local testing

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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it sure wasn't my decision 😠

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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very useful for skyblock worlds

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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I do local testing zzzzz

worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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blissful wing which wasn't sustainable with how MC was trending downwards in the end of 2018

but minecraft get a lot people back from the other video games due skyblock :p

summer barn Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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how about minigame maps that need to be reset?

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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I should use my absolute power as the team lead to split this repo into 95 different ones

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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By the time pipeline is finished I have to revise again rolling_eyes

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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just make 15 merge requests whenever you create a new feature

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Rebase **

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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the problem with gradle's build cache is that it resets itself when you git clone

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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heady spear switching to gradle made this worse fwiw

switch back to maven, if you're on github actions implement caching of your .gradle

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Wait city is a team lead

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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summer barn how about minigame maps that need to be reset?

could be implemented in a lot easier way, don't need a service like this

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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All hope is lost at noxcrew

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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sure is

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Sez u mr delayscape dev

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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it's a sweat shop now, just look at broc

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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heartbromccer

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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he aged 15 years in a week and no longer looks like a toddler

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Am not working for dyescape brocc ^^

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I don't have time for that

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Am just an advisor

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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True I haven’t shaved in weeks

summer barn Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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imagine dynamic MC server deployment. if a new minigame map is require. copy paste and start up a new instance of whatever jar

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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And ic

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Am the MCCi Lead Dev 😎

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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that already exists

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Is that why it’s actually getting a release

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troll

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Stuff we already do. kekwhyper

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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summer barn imagine dynamic MC server deployment. if a new minigame map is require. copy pas...

that's how it's reasonable to do anyway, i'm pretty sure most of the minigame servers do this; so don't have to imagine it, really

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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@waxen panther trueeee

summer barn Jul 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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ah.

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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summer barn imagine dynamic MC server deployment. if a new minigame map is require. copy pas...

literally did this with folders for a while beforei learned how to use Docker

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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can u teach michael how to use docker

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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i actually have that servers entire hard disk backed up

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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who was it earlier that was asking about k8s

summer barn Jul 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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I dont have a big enough server that i need dynamic deployment. I can jusr tun it all on 1 server with 20 ppl

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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@twin lagoon

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:47 PM

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void void that's how it's reasonable to do anyway, i'm pretty sure most of the minigame se...

you can, of course, overcomplicate everything and put a lot time & effort into using e.g ZFS

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:47 PM

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hello

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kubernetes epic

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:47 PM

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michael just pretends to understand kube, I'm pretty sure

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:47 PM

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want to know how hypixel MC manages its fleet of 20k+ MC instances?

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:47 PM

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but we're too dumb to call his bluff

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:47 PM

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screen

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:3

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:47 PM

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PepeLa

summer barn Jul 25, 2021, 6:47 PM

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its not a major focus for mine. just a side activity

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:47 PM

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blissful wing `screen`

As you should.

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Legit, why overcomplicate stuff?

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:47 PM

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🚮

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:48 PM

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everything for Hytale is kubernetes-native because we want realtime automated scalability in various on-prem and off-prem clouds

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but Hypixel MC has no need for that

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so they just use python scripts that start up screen, unzip some stuff, and get to work

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:48 PM

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@waxen panther Mr. Hipickle is telling us that Michael and Jackson have been scamming us all along

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:48 PM

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peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Mineplex did/does the same thing but tmux

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so gg

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:49 PM

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ashen cliff Legit, why overcomplicate stuff?

because it's boring otherwise, don't you know?

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:49 PM

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I like my stuff to just work.

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Like, always.

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:49 PM

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i recently migrated my server box to do this thing: https://elis.nu/blog/2020/05/nixos-tmpfs-as-root/

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:49 PM

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I don't want Docker to 💩 every time, I change my networking configuration.

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:50 PM

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don't change networking

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:50 PM

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now it works a lot better 😎

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:50 PM

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problem solved

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:50 PM

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I mean our setup is pretty poggers, it'll be interesting to see how it holds up during release mcc_coin

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:50 PM

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just found the minecraft server i ran in folders

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:50 PM

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heady spear <@!264203519806930944> Mr. Hipickle is telling us that Michael and Jackson have ...

WTF

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explain @twin lagoon

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:51 PM

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https://u.dejay.dev/👽🗡😪.png

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:51 PM

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explain or make build faster ignoremusiccry

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:51 PM

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if we just remove compileKotlin from the gradle task

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builds fast as fuck

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:52 PM

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very true

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:52 PM

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ight

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back to java

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:52 PM

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the better question is

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kotlin 1.5 when

waxen panther Jul 25, 2021, 6:52 PM

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oh well 😁

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:52 PM

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michael if you go replace all our fucking nms references with mojmap

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then we'll 1.5 immediately

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:52 PM

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how and where

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:52 PM

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learn forge

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:52 PM

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already lost interest

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:52 PM

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hire me, i'll be done by next wednesday

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maybe.

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:53 PM

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If not, read that again.

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:53 PM

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I just got a DM it bettter be a job offer

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unrelated dm

void void Jul 25, 2021, 6:53 PM

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steam scam

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i bet

heady spear Jul 25, 2021, 6:54 PM

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I'm sure one of our 10 devs can figure it out at some point

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maybe I'll start bribing them with donuts

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:57 PM

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don't get me wrong if you're the size that you need dynamic scaling k8s and docker are great*

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but practically nobody in the MC industry needs dynamic scaling

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you spend more in development time than it costs to just have the servers up 24/7 with static configs

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:57 PM

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kekwhyper [redacted] has a fully working setup with it. Even rents more servers when needed.

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:58 PM

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i'd say that's debatable

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because it really isn't that much work to get kubernetes + minecraft going with dynamic scaling

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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depends how your MC cluster management works

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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If you know kube

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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and who you're getting servers from

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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if you know kube yes

worn crest Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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i have my cloud that starts single mc instances and stops it after a round, thats fine for me 😄

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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blissful wing and who you're getting servers from

that too but i'm excluding node autoscaling

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Knowing kube is a rather high barrier to entry

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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stuff like https://agones.dev/ makes scaling pretty easy

Agones

Agones is a library for hosting, running and scaling dedicated game servers on Kubernetes.

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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To be fair, we don't use containers on that project, just scripts.

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Do ppl use agones for mc?

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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twin lagoon stuff like https://agones.dev/ makes scaling pretty easy

How do you always have a kube related thing for the conversation

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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yes

wispy blade Jul 25, 2021, 7:00 PM

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it's michael

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:00 PM

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peak ginkgo How do you always have a kube related thing for the conversation

cuz i run agones in production

peak ginkgo Jul 25, 2021, 7:00 PM

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https://u.dejay.dev/🗽📥😿.png

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:00 PM

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agones more like agony

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tbh k8s would be great to use if it still wasn't stuck on cgroups v1 ffs

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:01 PM

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depends on how you deploy it reeeeeeeee

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on the other hand i can't care less about cgroups

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mostly because i don't know the diff between v1 & v2 KEKW

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:02 PM

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yeah you need to take a look at it by yourself if you want to know

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:02 PM

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it also depends your workload

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are you running untrusted code on your hosts?

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if not, most of the security stuff for multi-tenant doesn't matter

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like running a multi-tenant kubernetes installation with untrusted clients is 100x more difficult

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than "i want k8s to manage my software for me"

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also depends if you're operating your own kube cluster

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or deploying into someone else's

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for Hytale I plan to operate our own HA kubernetes cluster on our bare metal hosts

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so there's a lot of glue to get a HA cluster running smoothly when you have no magical cloud LoadBalancer service

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:03 PM

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yes

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:03 PM

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and no persistent volume support

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:03 PM

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weeeell

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there's longhorn for that

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or k3s' local path provisioner

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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I use neither

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:3

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I choose pain.

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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no persistent volumes at all or just hostpath?

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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.g zfs-localpv

limber knotBOT Jul 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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(DiscordBot) https://github.com/openebs/zfs-localpv

GitHub

GitHub - openebs/zfs-localpv: CSI Driver for dynamic provisioning o...

CSI Driver for dynamic provisioning of Persistent Local Volumes for Kubernetes using ZFS. - GitHub - openebs/zfs-localpv: CSI Driver for dynamic provisioning of Persistent Local Volumes for Kuberne...

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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that's what i used last time

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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the only thing that needs persistent storage anywhere is our databases

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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oh huh that's a pretty interesting one

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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so we host-pin the DBs to particular nodes

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and hostPath them

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:05 PM

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oh yeah no same story here

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:05 PM

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I prefer to know where the fuck my DB files are

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:05 PM

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i just plan on using local path provisioner so i can just use PVCs

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PepeLa

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:05 PM

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oh yeah that's what I'm doing as of like two months ago

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it's quite easy actually

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thought it'd be more challenging

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:06 PM

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the load balancer stuff can still be done if you have the luxury of BGP

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then again nothing prevents you from host-pinning to certain nodes & using hostport though

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:07 PM

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I don't even host-pin

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I just hostNetwork: true

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and dynamically update DNS to point to whatever matches the selector

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:07 PM

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hostnetwork & hostport are the same for me

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:07 PM

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they shouldn't be

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they're very different

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:07 PM

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in k8s by default yes

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i don't use kube-proxy though

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:08 PM

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hostPort opens a port on all hosts and uses clever (but totally un-scalable) iptables forwarding

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ah

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I do

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:08 PM

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so hostport goes over the eBPF datapath

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rtx_boi

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:08 PM

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with a calico overlay

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:08 PM

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i used calico at first but had major issues running minecraft for some reason

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:08 PM

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yeah but you're still consuming additional network resources

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aren't you?

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:08 PM

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don't think so?

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:08 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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oh

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eBPF

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:08 PM

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yes

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:08 PM

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I read that as eBGP

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lol

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:09 PM

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to be fair i have no clue what the fuck eBPF does but it does what it should be doing

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cilium is epic

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:09 PM

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calico is pretty wild at scale

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BGP'ing within your own network

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virtual routing appliances

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nutty

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:09 PM

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calico is pretty nice yea

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:09 PM

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and it gets even better when you've got modern physical network appliances

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:10 PM

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even outside k8s

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:10 PM

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switches and such

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because it can just.....work

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tag the traffic with the right VLAN and the physical switch knows how to get the data to where it should go

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:10 PM

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i wrote my own game server orchestrator based on containerd, since i went with CNI for networking then calico was pretty easy to introduce

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also weavenet is pog

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:10 PM

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for some odd reason calico just wasn't the way to go for me

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:10 PM

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https://github.com/weaveworks/weave

GitHub

GitHub - weaveworks/weave: Simple, resilient multi-host containers ...

Simple, resilient multi-host containers networking and more. - GitHub - weaveworks/weave: Simple, resilient multi-host containers networking and more.

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:10 PM

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like random timeouts, noticable ingame lag

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:10 PM

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I tried weaveworks for a bit

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but I don't like the whole "OSS but pay us for advanced features" thing

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my goal for hytale deploy was $0/mo in licensing fees

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exclusively paying hardware and ops fees (power, bw, etc)

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:11 PM

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i just pay using my time :(

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and write/glue most of the shit i need by myself

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:12 PM

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you guys know about CNCF landscape right?

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https://landscape.cncf.io/

CNCF Cloud Native Interactive Landscape

Filter and sort by GitHub stars, funding, commits, contributors, hq location, and tweets. Updated: 2021-07-25 05:30:06Z

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:12 PM

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yep

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:12 PM

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really fucking useful if you haven't heard of it

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afk for a bit

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:12 PM

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should look into swapping out my CI

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Concourse is nice but i'd love to use something better

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been looking at Drone CI, but not sure how good it is

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:14 PM

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proxi uses it

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:14 PM

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@minor badge try selling me drone ci

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:15 PM

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feel like concourse is too complicated

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:15 PM

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it's ok, but it doesn't have much batteries included

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it's like glorified cron

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as in it does not provide a way to store build artifacts anywhere etc

minor badge Jul 25, 2021, 7:15 PM

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drone is ass

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:15 PM

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and you can't do scripting in flexible way

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also i'd like to swap out Harbor with something simpler

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probably have to write one by myself...

minor badge Jul 25, 2021, 7:17 PM

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yeah i wanna do that too

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Harbor as in https://goharbor.io/

Harbor

Our mission is to be the trusted cloud native repository for Kubernetes

minor badge Jul 25, 2021, 7:17 PM

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but i dont have anything to warrant it as i have GH Actions now

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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how's harbor

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was going to use it at some point

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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it's ok

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but i don't need 75% of the features it provides

twin lagoon Jul 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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fair

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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i simply need OCI image hosting

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with ACL

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and harbor is pain to maintain if you need to make changes to its docker-compose.yml

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e.g i want it to use data volumes instead of bind mounts

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Jenkins. kekwhyper

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:26 PM

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no thanks

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Sounds like a you problem then.

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:26 PM

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yes

willow robin Jul 25, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Anyone heard of pingnode as a host?

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And if so, comments? kekw

rocky crypt Jul 25, 2021, 7:36 PM

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What is the best warp plugin?

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:36 PM

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@willow robin Have not heard but from a cursory look let me tell you why to reconsider:

registered domain less than a year ago
not a registered business anywhere (that I can see)
site looks like a modified template
terms of service is written ambiguously (clearly did not contract a lawyer to write or review)
return policy in footer does not actually exist (lends to modified template idea) and redirects to TOS
privacy policy also does not exist (big fucking yikes)
$1.25/gb smells heavily like overselling
no info about geographical location of servers
logo is so stretched out that it looks blurry on a large monitor

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 7:37 PM

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You could have just said: Summer host. kekwhyper

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Was registered in december 2020 so i guess not quite? but idk

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not any better than one tho

wispy blade Jul 25, 2021, 7:38 PM

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winter host /s

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Lol, here's another one. Click login -> client area. You get a fucking 404 Not Found.

willow robin Jul 25, 2021, 7:39 PM

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potent fossil <@!192994921383329792> Have not heard but from a cursory look let me tell you w...

Oh I know, owner was trying to get me to leave Apex for that. I'm not interested, just didn't know if anyone had used that host or not. I'm interested in the horror stories. 😂

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:39 PM

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I'd hope there aren't many

willow robin Jul 25, 2021, 7:40 PM

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Me too lmao

worthy geode Jul 25, 2021, 7:40 PM

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But they are 5 times faster!!11

formal turret Jul 25, 2021, 7:40 PM

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sold

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:41 PM

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I think I'm being stupid, but what function can give me a graph like this, for the range [0,1]?

wispy blade Jul 25, 2021, 7:41 PM

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parabola?

worthy geode Jul 25, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Top of the Range Specifications to keep your servers running smoothly
All our servers are equipped with great specifications!
Unmatched Performance for such a great price.
Amazing Specifications, that's the way we do it.

They might offer amazing specs, not sure. They should mention that more often

wispy blade Jul 25, 2021, 7:42 PM

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wispy blade parabola?

at least some kind of quadratic function

charred sleet Jul 25, 2021, 7:42 PM

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worthy geode - Top of the Range Specifications to keep your servers running smoothly - All ou...

Lmao

worthy geode Jul 25, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Also: "Europe - This location is optimal for European countries."
No shit

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:42 PM

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it looks like sqrt(x) but it clearly has some extra stuff in there as well

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:42 PM

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i return

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:42 PM

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welcome back

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:42 PM

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bedridden with vertigo and a fever

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😦

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Sadge

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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indeed

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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At least you can still roast Mikro.

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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was gonna go biking today too 😦

willow robin Jul 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Lol bruh he won't leave me alone, blocked.

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Is Cloudflare a good domain registrar

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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yes

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Like they have the best prices I’ve seen

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Depends™️. kekwhyper

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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they're also Cloudflare

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Better not have torrents on your site.

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 7:43 PM

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so they're pretty good at most of the things they do

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Namecheap is my go-to

lament patio Jul 25, 2021, 7:44 PM

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haughty bear I think I'm being stupid, but what function can give me a graph like this, for t...

The general shape of that seems to be sqrt(1-(x-1)²)

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:44 PM

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sqrt... that's performance intensive

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Yeah I’ve been using namecheap for a long time but Cloudflare seems very interesting

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:44 PM

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It looks like sqrt(x) but it seems to have some slight curve in there as well

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so it has something more in it

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Namecheap has more variety though

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:44 PM

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lament patio The general shape of that seems to be sqrt(1-(x-1)²)

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 7:44 PM

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I wish CF would support more TLDs

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:44 PM

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I suppose it's a parabola, however I need to make it more "steep" which I'm not sure how:

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:45 PM

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vernal moth I wish CF would support more TLDs

I mean it’s the most common ones

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:45 PM

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(arrow shows the curve being "pushed")

vernal moth Jul 25, 2021, 7:45 PM

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They only support half of my domains

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:45 PM

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CF still doesn't do .eu right?

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:45 PM

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red line is more similar to what I need

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:45 PM

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what are you trying to do?

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Nowhere as close to the variety of namecheap but it seems good enough

lament patio Jul 25, 2021, 7:45 PM

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void void

Yup, that looked kinda close to the drawing

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:46 PM

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yep

worthy geode Jul 25, 2021, 7:46 PM

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willow robin Lol bruh he won't leave me alone, blocked.

They also don't even do NA hosting, lmao. Store just has EU servers

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:47 PM

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potent fossil what are you trying to do?

smooth this animation out

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:47 PM

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looks like micro's is much closer

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:47 PM

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let me try it

void void Jul 25, 2021, 7:47 PM

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simple can't spell :c

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:47 PM

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sorry still working on my coffee

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mikro*

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:48 PM

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messing with minecraft FOV is painful

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:49 PM

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I love using cloudflare tbh

south matrix Jul 25, 2021, 7:49 PM

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i did some wacky stuff with workers yesterday

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Especially when I’m hosting something at home so i don’t leak my ip

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:49 PM

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for domains i almost always initially register on google, then transfer to CF (assuming they both support whatever TLD it is, which majority of the time it does)

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:49 PM

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it's better, but I don't like the sqrt call, and it's still a bit weird

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:50 PM

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I’ve also wanted to try out Google domains

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:51 PM

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So, what, you don't want it to slow down after it does the initial fast zoom?

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:51 PM

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that initial fast zoom is unavoidable, but afterwards you can see how it speeds up, then slows down

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:51 PM

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well, that's kinda the result of using a concave up function right? it's gonna initially go fast then slow down as it levels out

lament patio Jul 25, 2021, 7:52 PM

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haughty bear (arrow shows the curve being "pushed")

Bleh, there's 2 - 2/(x^a + 1) that's vaguely close when you vary a

willow robin Jul 25, 2021, 7:52 PM

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worthy geode They also don't even do NA hosting, lmao. Store just has EU servers

Even better, shows he's obviously not doing any research at all lmfao

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Why is birch wood so ugly

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:52 PM

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birch is bae

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fuck u

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:52 PM

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LOL

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:52 PM

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for reference, a similar server does it like

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:53 PM

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potent fossil birch is bae

I knew you liked birch

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I had a feeling

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That’s why I said it, just so I could confirm it

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:53 PM

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good

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:53 PM

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We’ve found a birch lover ew

formal turret Jul 25, 2021, 7:53 PM

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the reference just looks linear to me

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:53 PM

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Spruce is the only good wood

formal turret Jul 25, 2021, 7:53 PM

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after the fast zoom

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:54 PM

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haughty bear smooth this animation out

this video is linear

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:54 PM

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plucky sparrow Spruce is the only good wood

Oak too, I used to hate oak but the new oak textures are hot

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:54 PM

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the issue is, it's fov stuff: linearly changing the value won't give you a linear change in zoom

formal turret Jul 25, 2021, 7:54 PM

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oh

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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oh man this is too much math for me right now, brain is not yet working. ima go do laundry instead

mint pike Jul 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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haughty bear it's better, but I don't like the sqrt call, and it's still a bit weird

What IDE is that?

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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maybe mikro big brain can help :P

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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intellij

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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What are some good IJ themes

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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material theme, and set a custom background

mint pike Jul 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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How you make it transparent? Looks waaay different then mine 😅

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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one sec

mint pike Jul 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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ah custom Bg

plucky sparrow Jul 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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I’ve been using Monokai but I’m getting tired of it

meager tusk Jul 25, 2021, 7:56 PM

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I like your profile picture bro!

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Boris johnson gaming!

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:56 PM

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jeremy clarkson albania

meager tusk Jul 25, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Fact!

haughty bear Jul 25, 2021, 7:56 PM

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this is the background I use, from russia 2028 concept art (project related to escape from tarkov)

meager tusk Jul 25, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Jeremy Clarkson is with Tupac and John Cena drinking Turkish tea in Albanian house! @vale rune @ashen cliff

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Fact!

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Fact!

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Albanian house in Kosovo!

south matrix Jul 25, 2021, 8:06 PM

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some people...

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 8:06 PM

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AuthMe daily.

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@vale rune BRO!

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Did you see that I finally got my 10km WiFi abomination back from the ... people. kekwhyper

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Daily AuthMe support!

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I am actually qualified to be an AuthMe Discord mod.

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Albanian.
Knows every question's answer, ignores all.

wispy blade Jul 25, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Fact!

blissful wing Jul 25, 2021, 8:28 PM

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oh christ

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AuthMe is still around?

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that's a fucking name I haven't heard in a decade

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Always.

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Permanent.

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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PaperMC will perish, AuthMe won't.

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Authme still has biggest share right?

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Compare to like nLogin or whatever that other one is PepeLa

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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It better.

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Bruh.

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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nLogin is just stolen AuthMe code. kekwhyper

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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PepeLa

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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kekwhyper

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 8:30 PM

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People even stole out MySQL connector and that thing it the worst thing ever created.

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 8:30 PM

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The folks need to protect their non existing accounts with 4 digit, per-server passwords!

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:30 PM

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It’s more of for server protection than anything PepeLa

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Folks like @ashen cliff don't need to use passwords with AuthMe bro.

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Fact!

vale rune Jul 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Log sessions, 24/7 online.

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Does AuthMe support Yubico? Oh... wrong userbase

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Already do.

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Awesome!

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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hi pheonix616 / pheonix chan what irc client you recommend and bouncers? ZNC? riepeek

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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ashen cliff Already do.

Wow best support

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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znc masterrace

wispy blade Jul 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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just use https://webchat.esper.net smh

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Keep suggestion coming

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I can host bouncer on my dedi right? @potent fossil

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Of course

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Also is there mobile client

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For iOS

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Just follow the znc installation steps

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ZNC isn't a client, you can use any client you want

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You just connect to ZNC instead of an IRC server directly, and it keeps you always online

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Sorry mixed in the question I want bouncer and client suggestion

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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You let ZNC connect to the actual IRC servers for you

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Oh

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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riepeek

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Yeah I dunno about a good iOS client. I personally use HexChat on windows, but that's just bc I don't use IRC all that much and it's quick and easy

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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I see I will look around

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Weechat is a nice CLI-based client too, lots of people like it, just not using it rn

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Still dunno for iOS

wispy blade Jul 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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quassel on windoo is also p nice 👀

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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How about if I want to host my own server @potent fossil

void void Jul 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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mossy vessel Does AuthMe support Yubico? Oh... wrong userbase

thanks for the idea lmao

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Your own IRC server?

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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I can

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EmaBkr

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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That's a whole other deal

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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I just need a dedi no?

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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void void thanks for the idea lmao

Mfw buying some hardware authenticator over the actual game lmao

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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You need a few servers for that to be a decent idea, just running 1 node isn't very robust

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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I got 3 nodes riepeek

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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Well then yea, you could

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I guess

void void Jul 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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yubis cost a lot

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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thrice the amount the game does

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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Just some pet project I wanna do really

void void Jul 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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yep

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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Yea not resource intensive, but you want > 1 ircd running that's all

void void Jul 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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holy shit wtf

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i know that hashicorp's vault can use yubi HSM

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but... why the fuck do they cost that much ffs

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let's rob enterprises huh?

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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Enterprise.

mossy vessel Jul 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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You'd vac such a key before someone steals it

void void Jul 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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"vac" in this context?

potent fossil Jul 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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vacate maybe

void void Jul 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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kek

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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For 15 euro you can get those wool sock that last forever

void void Jul 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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for 15 eur i get yelled at by my grandma for offering money and get 6 pairs

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 8:41 PM

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For 15€ you could just buy socks and sandals.

void void Jul 25, 2021, 8:41 PM

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also known as the alternative birth control

ashen cliff Jul 25, 2021, 8:42 PM

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Independently verified by you?

warm anchor Jul 25, 2021, 8:42 PM

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You put socks in place of condom??