Hi pay!
#general
ornate dirge
tidal apex
want some big money?
broken heron
görlitzer park hehe
warm anchor
Oh no
ornate dirge
no i dont want a kill everyone video from bigmoney006 thanks
broken heron
~~görlitzer park hehe~~
wtf i just typed it into my browser to see what comes up:
görlitzer park berlin - yeah thats allright, thats a good thing to search
görlitzer park [good stuff] - why do people search that on the internet
mighty storm
I'm everywhere 👀
left swift
Send me all ur crypto I know a chunk dupe glitch and can double all ur bitcoin and ethereum
worn ember
broken heron
man why must paypal hate me i just wanna use my emotes
worn ember
just dont be broke
broken heron
i mean i dont wanna say im not but paypal just sometimes doesnt pay for something
this month it didnt pay for nitro
last month it didnt pay for disney+
but it pays for anything coming after
warm anchor
Send me all ur crypto I know a chunk dupe glitch and can double all ur bitcoin a...
Jokes on you housemaster paid leaf fo fix 1.12 bugs!
broken heron
if i dont have balance it just pulls out of my bankcard lul
i never have balance and it always pulls out of my bank account but for some stuff it doesnt pay, if i buy something afterwards it works but not that one thing
sometimes im lucky and it pays for everything
worn ember
go bully their support ig
broken heron
oh and when im really lucky it disconnects my bank account
worn ember
im still salty paypal stole 60euro from me when i had my old account
they locked it and just held the money
merry talon
they've always been awful
worn ember
You got zero protection
like ur mum last night
broken heron
like ur mum last night
well did you
worn ember
whomst
warm anchor
Could’ve send me that 60 euro
broken heron
did YOU have protection last night
worn ember
i got it from unboxing and selling an unusual in tf2 
warm anchor
Wtf tf2 still alive??0
worn ember
bruh this was in like 2014
broken heron
Wtf tf2 still alive??0
kinda
worn ember
game is trash now
warm anchor
It’s just keys now
worn ember
well maybe not trash, but its meh
worn ember
eco is so inflated its like 20 refined metal to buy anything lul
warm anchor
4 battle pass a year!
worn ember
not sure
worn ember
no clue what the fuck that mode even is
left swift
D 
T A
worn ember
warm anchor
It’s like normal game mode but with only 4 towers
And you can suck up stones to gain more power
That’s it
warm anchor
Oh shit
quasi valley
you could also play that new Pokemon cashgrab 
waxen panther
come carry me 😎
warm anchor
I suck for sure. You carry me 
worn ember
just spam spells they dont cost mana anyway
in the few games i've played league i've never ran out mana lul
warm anchor
True
waxen panther
depends the character you play lol
waxen panther
sounds boring
worn ember
waxen panther
warm anchor
Remember the old day before attribute change
worn ember
before talent tree 
worn ember
lul
wispy blade
@waxen panther you still havemt rated my rice Sadge
modern steppe
wait for many players complaining that their bases got griefed because of bug in one of the patches lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elqAh3GWRpA
twin lagoon
ok
void void
wait for many players complaining that their bases got griefed because of bug in...
Patiently waiting for the first angry message about it 🙏
waxen panther
nothing makes me care less than seeing the phrase "2b2t"
twin lagoon
waxen panther
@twin lagoon x
twin lagoon
formal turret
the server that is always in turmoil according to him
modern steppe
broken heron
did anyone make any plugins like idk... something that adds more dimensions maybe with custom mobs and items idk
magic river
No because depending on what you mean by custom mobs and items that requires client mods
warm anchor
You just spelled forge wrong
broken heron
did anyone make any forge like idk... something that adds more dimensions maybe with custom mobs and items idk
wispy blade
magic river
Tons of them, I recommend All The Mods 6 to start with, give you a chance to sample a ton of mods at once
broken heron
ok whatever nah i mean something simple, stuff like bloodmoon has custom mobs that are pretty simple, no new blocks or something but things like weapons with effects or enchants or something
warm anchor
Resource pack then
magic river
You can get surprisingly custom with a vanilla client, especially if you're willing to force a resource pack on them
wispy blade
Tons of them, I recommend All The Mods 6 to start with, give you a chance to sam...
pfft, at least FTB
broken heron
Resource pack then
doesnt need to, i mean it doesnt even have to have custom items or smth
magic river
But iirc I learned the other day hypixel does a lot of their stuff by making you spectate an armor stand set to have no physics on it so they can have 100% control over all your movements
warm anchor
Resource pack is the better approach
magic river
That's going to be a massive undertaking to reproduce and is going to be needed for some of the effects and such
blissful wing
👀
vernal moth
Do you have pings enabled on discord too for the hot word? ^^
vernal moth
Heh
blissful wing
because bridge
magic river
I do that too
vernal moth
I remember when we changed the IRC censor to the word
blissful wing
lmao
magic river
Even if someone replies without ping or just says my name trying to avoid pinging me IRC will still do so
It's just less in your face about it
warm anchor
Hi Amaranth this is an irc ping
vernal moth
But then the kotlin ppl took over and swarmed the channel whenever somebody mentioned kotlin, so we had to change the censor to kotlin
vernal moth
I wonder what happened to redrield
magic river
Kotlin is what you should be using unless you're willing to use bleeding edge Java (and maybe even then)
vernal moth
This was years ago when even google didn't adopt kotlin yet
magic river
Although since I started doing web stuff whenever I look at kotlin I see the size of the stdlib jar and think 'oof, that's a heavy dependency'
vernal moth
I did a kotlin/js project recently, a web viewer for a java lib, so I converted the java code to kotlin, and I was surprised that the resulting bundle is rather small
Not a single line of js
magic river
1.5MB of JS and CSS though
vernal moth
Did it get bigger?
Last I checked it was a few mb js gzipped
I didn't write the UI so idk about the css
Thats all magic by kezz
magic river
It's 2.32 MB for the whole page if you use the gzipped size but the parsers don't get to read it like that and parsing time is a major factor if you start tossing around these amounts of code
You have 1.14 MB of all.min.js and 232.54 KB of MiniMessageViewer.js
static badge
are you talking about performance in the web
twin lagoon
@restive thicket 
vernal moth
That's just lazy to not only include the shit we want
twin lagoon
geyser ansi code fix wen
magic river
So MiniMessageViewer.js is just mojangson to HTML and is completely self contained?
magic river
That seems a bit large for what it's doing still but considering what it took to put it on the web it is smaller than I expected
Like, if I rewrote that in JS with an eye for size I bet I could do it in like 20 KB or less
restive thicket
i can reproduce it on c658913
Redned was checking the console, not the logs.
twin lagoon
@magic ice dum
magic ice
pls
magic river
Oh, right, not even mojangson first
twin lagoon
magic river
Do you convert to mojangson then convert to HTML?
Well, I suppose internally there wouldn't be any reason to use their weird format, just normal JSON or even just Component objects
arctic cargo
i have a question
is possible to use multiple dedicated servers with Mosix for Hosting Minecraft or this will be a problem
twin lagoon
mosix?
peak ginkgo
Did you mean Nocix
arctic cargo
twin lagoon
but why
magic river
Just use TempleOS
Ah, so MOSIX is a layer on top of Linux that tries to hide NFS and RPC calls and make everything look like it's running on a single machine
Seems like a bad idea
And it probably doesn't have an OpenJDK 16 port 😛
void void
arctic cargo
Seems like a bad idea
Whet i really need to Know is this really bad idea 
magic river
You're using a non-standard stack, don't know enough about it to say why you think you should/shouldn't, and apparently don't have anyone higher up the chain to ask for input
So yeah, bad idea
Stick to what everyone else uses until you know something else works better for you
If you want to play with non-standard tech on a proof of concept or something that's one thing but trying to do anything serious without knowing what you're doing...
void void
if you feel that you need to ask here about it, then you don't know enough to pull it off
sure, some madlad might actually try using it but even then it'd need a quite bit of time to research
also >proprietary, you'll probably have hard time fixing any bugs you'll encounter with it
static badge
i hear windows is a great option
void void
correct
windows server is the best os
you know, free things they don't really offer support
"read the fucking manual" bruh
magic river
Microsoft only helps you if you give them more money 😛
magic river
You could give that money to Red Hat or Canonical instead and they'll help you too
magic river
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please don't give it to any weebs though 
magic river
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mfw leaf emotes
brave radish
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what is this
magic river
It looks like someone mauling a cat
brave radish
I went to the petpat generator and set the squish high
magic river
Seeing that hand movement in larger size it's kind of weird...
brave radish
well I don't have Nitro to use it as an emoji 😔
magic river
No, I mean it doesn't look like a patting motion with the hand, it looks like a rubbing motion with the thumb
void void
please don't give it to any weebs though <:wixWeeb:726655627610423336>
nor furries
static badge
are you trying to say something to me mikro penis
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brave radish
gg you just responded to that name
void void
yes
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he's proud
worn ember
ok coomer
void void
no u
brave radish
No, I mean it doesn't look like a patting motion with the hand, it looks like a ...
sorry to burst your bubble, but that's how all of them look big enough
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emote sucks
warm anchor
emote sucks
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void void
have to agree with the furry
brave radish
leaf what is your opinion on stickers
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don't really care tbh
magic ice
@twin lagoon fixed
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except that now I have no choice but to look at enlarged weeb trash emotes
worn ember
smh Rider gets stuck on refactoring if your app is still running
void void
rekt
brave radish
I only used Rider once and it crashed like 3 times during the tutorial
worn ember
lmao
i get errors spewing left and right every time i boot it up
its faster to copy your code and just paste it in a new class with the proper name instead of refactoring
brave radish
I should look at c# again but eh
worn ember
its a cluster fuck most of the time tbh
brave radish
I can just be a GraalVM fanboy if I want something to not need a Java runtime
frank otter
Is it screen tearing or just input lagging
vernal moth
Just Linux things
void void
Is it screen tearing or just input lagging
second i guess
void void
i mean, those "linux things" are hella annoying and makes me thinking about going back to windows
then do it
Pretty sure that those lags isnt okay
wispy blade
make sure you're not on the nouveau drivers 👀
void void
tearing is common but with correct configuration they're gone
i personally just stopped caring as linux environment had other benefits
ashen cliff
WayLand.
void void
Fuck my life
left swift
Michael
void void
manjaro 😭
wispy blade
never had an issue with manjaro
twin lagoon
manjaro controversy 
void void
switch to nixos today
plucky sparrow
Switch to PureDarwin 😏
plucky sparrow
Isn’t openbsd mainly used for security?
plucky sparrow
Why use openbsd over freebsd
plucky sparrow
I was planning on installing it on my Raspberry Pi ☹️
ashen cliff
Daily ClearLinux reminder.
void void
swupd bundles are cringe
need only ncurses? yup let's install sysadmin-basic
including htop and other shit
vernal moth
Wasn't bsd the one with laughable bad performance for mc?
I remember seeing timings reports by tux
ashen cliff
swupd bundle-add htop
void void
yea because they don't do something like vdso
as linux does
openbsd started doing it actually
void void
swupd bundle-add htop
<:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
yes but now ncurses
ashen cliff
Is *BSD even the best at anything? Used to be the best for IO and Network IO. But now Linux is way ahead.
ashen cliff
yes but now ncurses
swupd bundle-add devpkg-ncurses
brave radish
Daily ClearLinux reminder. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
😫
plucky sparrow
Wasn't bsd the one with laughable bad performance for mc?
Some time ago i was looking at benchmarks about Java on FreeBSD and Linux and it ran better on Linux ☹️
Ruined my plans of trying out FreeBSD on my server
But I think freebsd outperforms Linux on some stuff
tropic flame
sorry guys, I'd rather boot straight into a BASIC shell 😎
void void
Scary smart words 😭
ashen cliff
Mikro clapped as always.
magic river
afaik the only place FreeBSD ever had a perf advantage over Linux was networking and more specifically packet filtering
I think those advantages got wiped out a few years ago
ashen cliff
Not really. Less than the thing you said.
void void
does that provide infocmp now?
k, lemme ssh into my x86_64 box and see it for myself
ah yes
twin lagoon
"bloat"
void void
literally useless stuff for containers
ashen cliff
containers
void void
hmm yes i'll definitely need aspell in my container
twin lagoon
then run flatcar linux or something
ashen cliff
Bro.
void void
as host i use nixos anyway
magic river
Why the fuck do you need a UI library in your container?
vernal moth
We just use rhels docker image
ashen cliff
I would unfriend you for that.
twin lagoon
alpine bro
void void
do it fucker
ashen cliff
Can't.
void void
noob
magic river
No, really, you're complaining ncurses is bringing in other things that are useful for humans
ncurses is for humans
magic river
Isn't there a flag you can pass to the server to force colors on?
I know you can force them off, seems like it should exist
void void
no that won't do - tab completion and line editing is completely broken
ashen cliff
Installing all that bloat for just 1 utility?
void void
when jline is unable to figure out current terminfo parameters
magic river
Although why are you worried about tab complete, line editing, and colors in a container?
magic river
So this isn't a headless setup
So things that make it more useful for humans are wanted
void void
this part is now debatable
magic river
In this particular instance you may not want aspell but I don't blame them for compiling it in
You asked for software for to make life easier for humans
void void
well, i personally didn't
that's why i also complain
https://gist.github.com/mikroskeem/a3bfd2c7bb9c4795fc892f71772abb75 - this is what happens with Paper for example
magic river
You could add a build stage where you install the package, copy out infocmp and any files or dependencies it definitely needs, then delete the rest
void void
well actually i made this: https://github.com/mikroskeem/clr-bundles
magic river
It has to be a multistage build though, if you just do a rm operation it'll still be in the container bundle
void void
i'm aware of all those tricks, luckily
twin lagoon
why the fuck would you run clear linux in a container though
void void
it's just weird that i have to jump through hoops for that simple thing
static badge
should've just stuck to windows tbh
twin lagoon
ah yes the 0.01% performance boost
void void
yep
peak ginkgo
profile picture checks out
void void
actually inspired by this: https://august.nagro.us/optimized-openjdk.html
so worth a shot
ashen cliff
ah yes the 0.01% performance boost
twin lagoon
isn't 90% of that just their kernel distribution
ashen cliff
Nyah.
void void
profile picture checks out
🤔
peak dirge
afaik the only place FreeBSD ever had a perf advantage over Linux was networking...
Yeah, Linux networking performance has had lots of attention paid to it since it became the de facto kernel for the hyperscalers. But even then, they still employ userspace bypasses and other things. it's still a nightmare. Ironically, in terms of async I/O, the Windows kernel won big with I/O completion ports, and now Linux is shifting to a completion-based I/O model with io_uring.
You will, of course, not be surprised that io_uring originates from a Linux kernel developer working for one of those hyperscalers: Facebook
The nail in the coffin for epoll was arguably Spectre/Meltdown. Given that the hyperscalers have deployed a lot of Intel CPUs, this meant more time doing syscalls...
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we just need to get rid of context switches 
peak dirge
kernel-mode Minecraft servers?!?!?!?!
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void void
move everything to ring 0 yep
bonus points if you manage to re-use the networking stack from ring -1, in other words Intel ME
peak dirge
sadge
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what is intel ME
void void
he doesn't know
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sounds like a shitty version of Windows ME
void void
you're not wrong
peak dirge
It's worse than that
if you want to go back even further, there is System Management Mode, which was introduced back in the 1990s and is as bit as dangerous as Intel ME
thorny totem
Well some of my players and even myself got a Connection Reset, telling me they were lagging. Is it because of the known vuln about systemd? (I haven't rebooted the machine yet, packages updated however.)
Or OVH is having problems randomly
void void
don't modern gpu firmwares still require SMM?
void void
Well some of my players and even myself got a `Connection Reset`, telling me the...
the what
what vuln?
ashen cliff
Let's explore ring -3 again.
peak dirge
don't modern gpu firmwares still require SMM?
Wikipedia has some good explanations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Mode
thorny totem
what vuln?
this https://9to5linux.com/canonical-pushes-new-ubuntu-kernel-updates-to-all-supported-releases but not sure if its due to that or OVH network's having random connection resets
void void
that's not related to networking at all
peak dirge
This is one thing that's nice about Apple's CPUs. You are actually running on the bare-metal ARM CPU cores.
thorny totem
ahh okie
void void
so it's just OVH being crap again, nothing new
twin lagoon
do you actually use OVH or a SoYouStart server @thorny totem
thorny totem
No, bare metal GAME-1 server
void void
OVH seems to constantly have problems with their networking, especially on bare metals
void void
ranging from intel ethernet chip dying or ethernet cable being broken
i've experienced both
thorny totem
Same, from the last dedicated server I had no problems with networking idk
I'll file up a ticket with them if it happens again
ashen cliff
Network cards dying at OVH? Can't be happening bro.
Legit, every server I ever had with them, only lasted 2 years before having to get the motherboard replaced.
void void
no damn idea what they're doing with their dedis there
ashen cliff
Blame Asus.
Imagine water cooling CPUs and forgetting about all the other parts.
The network chip is usually very close to the VRM.
void void
ugh
peak dirge
Legit, every server I ever had with them, only lasted 2 years before having to g...
I've had a server that had to get its motherboard replaced after just 2 months - the thing kept rebooting every few days
ornate dirge
Legit, every server I ever had with them, only lasted 2 years before having to g...
I have vps for webs
peak dirge
that was in 2014 though
peak dirge
and it took several days for us to convince OVH support that there was a clearly a motherboard issue
ashen cliff
On VPS systems, you only have to worry about noisy neighbors.
ornate dirge
On VPS systems, you only have to worry about noisy neighbors.
And fireproof backups
ornate dirge
Backuppc locally
ashen cliff
Also based Google moment: https://posili.me/i/2021-07-24_23-09-46.png
thorny totem
Blame Asus.
the mb I have is an ASRock Rack lol
ashen cliff
What model?
ashen cliff
Ah yes, the cursed board.
thorny totem
guess its known with ASRock boards maybe, my friend which has the same CPU should be on that MB aswell. Oof.
ashen cliff
Never hard issues with ASRock boards myself.
willow robin
:( why are they cursed?
ashen cliff
Just look at it. They legit pulled an EVGA and rotated the socket.
potent fossil
paper discord threads when
wispy blade
true
potent fossil
wispy blade
Just look at it. They legit pulled an EVGA and rotated the socket.
gotaa keep them traces short bro!
plucky sparrow
paper discord threads when
Has discord released threads already?
potent fossil
Limited release
waxen panther
asking if discord fixed something on android
plucky sparrow
It’s ok Samsung devices suck
ashen cliff
Q: Has Discord fixed the slow connection issue on Android?
A: Nope.
wispy blade
Bro! Can you rate my rice?
ashen cliff
Yes.
wispy blade
it's in #share-your-pc if you scroll up a tiny bit
wispy blade
But Youmu+Yuyuko!
ashen cliff
Touhou can't distract me from the specs bro.
wispy blade
It's a craptop for a reason bro.
It can do Trackmania Nations Forever at lowest settings at 60fps.
on windows.
worn ember
that explains the 5px video
worn ember
no one does
potent fossil
random question but how is y'all's posture
mine is shit
im trying to sit properly and it HURTS
surreal zinc
Does anyone know how to make a vote server?
magic mesa
crap, now and then I remember to sit up straight tho
potent fossil
I had really bad knots in my shoulders and I had someone get them out for me but holy shit, they pulled my shoulders back how they shoot me and i felt like my soul left my body
should be*, but shoot me as well
void void
never had issues with posture really, i also set up a timer to take rests (sometimes) so i'll eventually sit properly again
if i ever forget myself sitting in some silly position
potent fossil
I have like hunchback posture lol
vestal jasper
simple 🥺
potent fossil
Josh 🥺
void void
damn
wispy blade
my chair's so uncomf that i slouch almost all the time
vestal jasper
just sit on simple
wispy blade
that would be rude
potent fossil
(talking about this http://www.osgpc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/iStock_000043681778_Medium.jpg, not the crazy fully bent over posture)
void void
though sometimes i can't get this one crack done between my shoulders
so i must ask somebody to step on me (gf or so) lol
wispy blade
i can be a gf
vestal jasper
simple ur lucky u have a partner or else I'd double down
potent fossil
yes naomi, step and stomp on mikro
void void
uye stomp on me bbygirl
potent fossil
simple ur lucky u have a partner or else I'd double down
unfortunately she is 7,133 miles away 
but yes
wispy blade
i will stomp on him with all of my 51 kg
potent fossil
tf does double down mean in that context tho
vestal jasper
I got more wax this morning 
vestal jasper
I didn't think about that
that's gonna suck if I go to the doc and that's what she gives
hexed dragon
Bots now have about me. You can edit it by going into an application on discord developer and editing the application description.
void void
noice
potent fossil
ok?
twin lagoon
that's pretty neat actually
void void
thanks
potent fossil
I thought they already did that? 
I set mine to this weird message months ago and it has always shown up when I click the bot
yea has been like this since at least january when i made the bot https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Live-Roller-4d.png
hexed dragon
That cannot happen unless you had some limited access which they sometimes do.
potent fossil
I dunno. It's been like that for a long time.
hexed dragon
It wasn't for me
wispy blade
mine would be "ooh ooh ah ah monke eat ba a nba"
hexed dragon
They announced it 15/07/2021 so very strange you have seen it before.
potent fossil
Unless I am entirely misremembering, I definitely had it before the 15th
Or it showed up elsewhere
Oh, yea, maybe it showed up when I right click->profile.
hexed dragon
Oh well, they are now public for everyone.
potent fossil
I don't know.
golden gust
My about me is the truth and you know it.
potent fossil
I don't have a waifu
golden gust
Okay, well, then, ur shit
potent fossil
That's a universal constant
ashen cliff
Okay, well, then, ur shit
So, Cat = 💩.
wispy blade
nono
potent fossil
So, Cat = 💩.
😳
ashen cliff
We should.
void void
hot
waxen panther
wtf
wispy blade
Cat + catfood -> 💩 on my rug
golden gust
be like that movie with the cup
warm anchor
Yes I will pay for you two to have a night at the best restaurant in UK so McDonald’s
void void
what movie cat
void void
oic
ashen cliff
Yes!
wispy blade
compression
willow robin
Wowzers
void void
pagchomp
golden gust
Just give it time
region files aren't zero'd so that compression ration eventially disappears
(chunk defragmenter wen?!)
ashen cliff
Zstd patch merge when?
void void
never
golden gust
We're still tryna get mojang to speak to us about it...
I kinda wanna avoid the "keeping patches for eternity" just for some random change
Think for 1.18 imma remove the paper oversized chunk patch
warm anchor
Keeping patch for me? 
left swift
poggers
brave radish
How many versions of the client do y'all have locally? For some reason I have 108
worn ember
69
worn ember
idk how to check
brave radish
Err I think it's .minecraft/versions on Windows (the ones of those that have a jar file, at least)
potent fossil
21
unkempt drift
Download my free software, https://www2.epic-downloads.com/mc-version-counter.exe
100% virus free
worn ember
its more actually
idk why i have like 50 snapshots
isnt it ww2 usually?
instead of www2
unkempt drift
Oh maybe 😛
golden gust
98 here
brave radish
Download my free software, https://www2.epic-downloads.com/mc-version-counter.ex...
someone just tell me what it is :(
brave radish
uh
is this just FF being weird? cuz curl -v just said could not resolve but when I clicked MM's link I got a split second of the "This site could be impersonating blah blah blah" screen and then a could not connect
brave radish
oh maybe FF is just flagging it preemptively because of the URL :pepela:
worn ember
ye
scenic dew
magic river
Strings in the protocol are length prefixed, not null terminated
static badge
null terminating is the best tho
merry talon
im gonna terminate ur mom
rare osprey
I'm everywhere 👀
u dev here
daring laurel
is there a way to force move the client's hotbar slot through server -> client packets?
oh there is nvm
nimble depot
pl0x r8 my app
User interface:100
worn ember
User interface:100
well hey, its looking a bit better already
potent fossil
No thanks
merry talon
that's gonna be a no from me dawg
golden gust
I mean, am rolled in the experimental tree, but, that VM has no TPM, and I literally just practically right now moved away from legacy bios
tropic flame
the TPM requirement is only enforced by the installer, as far as I know
so it's probably not really caring about it when it's through Windows Update
(even in the installer you can just bring up a command prompt and deploy the image manually lol)
golden gust
!ban @final crystal scam
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned klovik#8706 (scam) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.
austere ivy
where do I get this amazing emoji
unkempt drift
Eternity’s discord
austere ivy
@ eternity can I please join your discord 
o it's a public discord nvm I'm joining anyway
my emoji now
austere ridge
left swift
No where
plain laurel
I suggest #announcements
daring laurel
What does it mean If I'm getting kicked for DecoderException : Error decoding packet class KeepAlive @ net.md_5.bungee.protocol.MinecraftDecoder:85
potent fossil
It means you're trying to connect with something that your proxy does not support such as a too new or too old version or something.
Proxy can't decode the data it's being sent.
shell vine
prob shouldnt be having g1 old after only 2 hours and 2 players
are u generating the world or something
daring laurel
what does itemDamage mean in mojang item
because for some reason, heads only work if their itemDamage is 3?
vernal moth
You on some old version?
In ancient times we used durability (item damage) to distinguish between variants of the same block
Nowadays, after 1.13, the flattening took place and everything is its own block now as it should be
So really, get off your dinosaur
wispy blade
a
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morning naomi
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understandable
wispy blade
wbu
vernal moth
🌅
Going to Krk today to molest some poor fishers in some cool looking small villages
wispy blade
lol
nimble depot
well hey, its looking a bit better already <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
It remains me of the Java tools I used to buy from shady forums
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@ cat you did it agaiiiin, you added an exploit 
mossy trellis
sad spigot noises
golden gust
exploit already existed
just the patch made it easier, alternative would of been to start booting people but we saw why that was a bad idea when we tried it recently
vernal moth
I don't think it means what you think it means
It means exactly what I was trying to say actually 😂
potent fossil
you're going to sexually assault them? bc that's the common english meaning lol
(outmoded definition would be to annoy)
vernal moth
I know what molest means ^^
potent fossil
oh ok, so you're just being intentionally edgy. gotcha
vernal moth
In my defense, it was very early
golden gust
He forgot the golden rule
untold copper
in the last 6 hours
golden gust
Don't stop drinking
potent fossil
Mainline the alcohol
vernal moth
It's not even Monday, lol
worn ember
I'll drink to that. Cheers
vernal moth
It's waaaayyy to hot to drink
golden gust
You know what you need?
a cup of tea
and then, what you do is get some box of cider and lounge out in the sun
worn ember
You know cat. I want to kiss you... With the front of my truck. Going 90km/h
golden gust
don't threaten me with a good time
worn ember
:))
vernal moth
a cup of tea
I actually drink one every morning
And am not drinking now cause we wandering thru some old city in the burning sun right now, I would just collapse
heady spear
Ohhhh Croatia, how is it? @vernal moth
I kinda wanna take my sister on a vacation because she deserves it after being a nurse in high-dependency wards throughout this bloody pandemic, but idk where
Croatia is cheapppppp tho
unkempt drift
The islands are always my favorite place
wispy blade
can't go wrong with the dubrovnik/split area
vernal moth
We up north, cause we went by car
It's really nice, didn't expect it to be so green and the sea is amazing
The money is fucking with me tho, I feel like playing monopoly handing out 100 notes everywhere
So I basically have no idea how much am actually spending
wispy blade
last time i checked the exchange rate was 1 eur to 7 kn
vernal moth
7.5 or smth, ye
tender swift
Always when you go to a atm and you need a bigger wallet cause it doesnt fit
mossy vessel
exchanging money be like; much relatable when I was in Prague last time
vernal moth
The worst was just on bali
red halo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elqAh3GWRpA
lol
vernal moth
My minimum on my card is 50 euro, and sometimes that was close to or over the max of the ATM
red halo
exploit already existed
it fixed a more serious exploit and 99.9% of servers don't care about this lol
there is much worse exploits in vanilla minecraft
vernal moth
So the ATM would spew out this giant bundle of money and the locals would look funny at me
mossy vessel
Don't they accept euro too?
tender swift
And probbly alot of those massive bills that dont have "big" value to them
golden gust
I can only imagine the horrors of tryna get money in some other country
Like, I have a mastercard and they have pretty decent rates so am told
vernal moth
Oh yeah Bali could shove off 2 zeros and it would still be fine
I don't pay any fee for getting money cat
golden gust
But, like, unless you want the headaches of pissing around ATMs and such, you probs wanna go trade at one of the exchanges
vernal moth
My bank gives me it all back
golden gust
but then you get fucked by them
vernal moth
No never trade, that's always worse
mossy vessel
pft exchange rates; don't you have a box with a bunch of notes in different currencies under your bed
vernal moth
ATMs have two modi, you can take money using the exchange rate of the ATM, which sucks, or you just use the rate of your bank, which is the current rate
So when using ATM you just gotta make sure to not convert
tender swift
And never change at a airport kek easy place to get robbed with some extra airport fees
golden gust
oh god, that just reminded me of back to the future where he had the briefcase of cash lol
I mean, yea, ofc, card rates are better
Just a case of making sure that the ATMs don't get an 8" on you
vernal moth
But yeah, only issues I ever have with getting money is when your minimum is close to the maximum of the ATM
Or the ATM is like half empty
vernal moth
Egypt was hell cause the hotel ATM was always mostly empty
golden gust
Over here we have a £50 note but getting it is like having a bad day
red halo
just the patch made it easier, alternative would of been to start booting people...
the latest patch is fine but still could cause some rare desync but mostly is fine but it prob should be check if the requested chunk is in the current PlayerConnection EntityTracker chunk map because sending block updates at all in unloaded chunks can actually cause issues on the client by placing blocks in the shared unloaded chunks or whatever but i actually doubt even that would be a problem except for when bad plugins or lag is going on
tender swift
We always did go to the local bank instad of a random atm on a street to avoid atm limits
vernal moth
I can take less but then I pay fee, that's the trade of with my card, i pay no fees anywhere, world wide, but I gotta take 50 euro+
golden gust
Yea, I said elsewhere that it probs wants to actually check if you're the person who loaded the chunk
red halo
ye
golden gust
I got no idea if the server makes that easy to check and wasn't something I cared to dig into
vernal moth
In Germany if I would take 50 euro it would give me 20, 10, 10, 5, 5 on most ATMs
red halo
i was gonna submit the fix myself but someone already did the crappy range check + kick and i had no motivation to make the pr anymore
but that is the fix we ran on our servers
tender swift
Here 20,10,10,10 but we also have a option to pull out a 50
If its available in the machine
vernal moth
Oh yeah most ATMs here allow you to interactively select notes
golden gust
When the patch was originally done it was a pretty quick "I wanna go to bed fix" from what I recall, the exploit there was known by me at the time but it was already doable, just it does make it easier, but, yea \o/
vernal moth
In Croatia I just get 100 and 200 notes 😂
spice ether
In Germany if I would take 50 euro it would give me 20, 10, 10, 5, 5 on most ATM...
Wut you can get 5€ from atm thats awesome would be great if Netherlands did that too
vernal moth
I don't really care about cash tho
red halo
When the patch was originally done it was a pretty quick "I wanna go to bed fix"...
well it was not really possible before as it would just crash the server but you could download the entire world by using a ton of data for no reason but that is about it
vernal moth
I pay almost everything with my phone
golden gust
We have a few ATMs in the UK which let you get out £5, but, generally nobody cares about it
tender swift
And get bills that you need to fold twice to fit in the wallet kek
golden gust
was doable, just had to do it slower and based on response time rather than just yes/no
vernal moth
Nah the bills are smaller than euros
tender swift
I dont remember which ones where super huge and werent
red halo
was doable, just had to do it slower and based on response time rather than just...
that would work in 1.16+ but i don't think it would work as much in 1.12 unless it took more then 50ms to process
or lagged the server
vernal moth
You couldn't tear them apart too
red halo
1.12 only processes packets every 25-50ms on average
tender swift
You couldn't tear them apart too
Say that too the australian saw a video when someone just ripped one up those are also from "plastic" i think oh wait it was canadian i think
worn ember
Barry Alan? You got the flash on your money?
golden gust
Alan Turing
worn ember
Oh that guy. Lame
golden gust
wtf
red halo
was doable, just had to do it slower and based on response time rather than just...
anyways if timing attacks are valid there is a lot more then need to be fixed.... then but the worse part about that patch till you fixed/improved it with the obvious quick fix would have been crashing the server and really was not usable for anything else except for downloading and making chunks entity processing etc on demand everything else would be very hard to use without lagging the server trying to use it
golden gust
!ban @worn ember literal shit tier human gtfo
vernal moth
All Brits confirmed gay now that they got a gay man on their notes
wispy blade
didn't need a gay man on their notes to confirm that though
worn ember
Their teeth far apart enough to fit a dik through amirite
worn ember
So you have experience?
golden gust
what's up doc?
worn ember
hm im trying to figure out how to best let my users log in via steam in browser and somehow get the data back to log them in on my application
ig i'd have to send it from a local server to their login page that then redirects back to it with the login data
but im not sure thats how that works
limpid comet
are you talking about "login with steam"
isnt that just oauth
oh
i see the issue
vernal moth
Need a web server in your app
Unless you mean Android App, there you can have redirect url as a deep link into the app
worn ember
nah desktop app
golden gust
yea, iirc the final step is often done by the client, so you'd just post the token or whatever it gives you to a local web server thingy
worn ember
thanks i'll look into that
golden gust
(by telling it where to send the token thing)
vernal moth
And with web server I just mean some endpoint that listens to http
vernal moth
Intellij has a redirect scheme registered
So they redirect to myscheme://auth/callback eg
worn ember
oh
vernal moth
At least am pretty sure they use a scheme
worn ember
i just remember wondering how their debug thing worked with the chrome extention
and i think it just sent data to a local webserver
which intellij listened for
vernal moth
They also have their "open in Intellij" thing which uses a scheme
worn ember
yeah that too
plucky sparrow
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Just so you all know
golden gust
FSF can go DIAF but that's a different matter
I can't think of the FSF without thinking toe gunk
wispy blade
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in...
Except, I use Alpine, a distro free of the GNU corelibs, shell utils and vital system components.
plucky sparrow
Except, I use Alpine, a distro free of the GNU corelibs, shell utils and vital s...
you're weird
wispy blade
get womansplained on
vernal moth
Whenever I see fsf I see rms
nova plume
does dependabot only work with maven or is it gradle too?
vernal moth
And seeing rms is never good
worn ember
im reading the steam docs and i'm already utterly lost
why am i so bad at reading docs
vernal moth
It's just oauth?
vernal moth
You used oauth before?
vernal moth
That's not what you want most likely, lol
twin lagoon
anyone know something like nextdns? want a dns service where i can map / rewrite dns responses in a web ui
plucky sparrow
thanq
worn ember
huh, this requires me to already have the client id
where the hell am i supposed to pull that one from lul
mossy vessel
Why is it so cheap?
Oic... something went wrong during assembling the parts. The steering wheel is on the wrong side.
vernal moth
where the hell am i supposed to pull that one from lul
You register your app and get a client id and a secret
"During your initial setup you will need to contact Valve with the following information:
What permissions you need the user to obtain. The required permissions are listed below with each API call.
The token lifetime.
The redirect URI to send the user back to after completing authentication/authorization.
In return, Valve will assign a Client ID for your implementation."
That seems dum
Why don't they have an interface for that, lmao
analog oak
how does one delete a chunk through console
vernal moth
Oh we are still on the wrong website
@worn ember https://steamcommunity.com/dev
That's what you wanna do
The openid connect stuff
vernal moth
Openid is nice
worn ember
vernal moth
And if you don't wanna do it manually, there are a million libs
worn ember
yup looking into those now
vernal moth
Those you just give a redirect URI, the openid endpoint and your API key
worn ember
i looked at those endpoints but non really let you get your own friend id
idealy i'd just let users log in, grab their friend id and do my requests to the opendota api
i could just let them put it in, but thats less user friendly
vernal moth
Iirc auth0 has a decent one
worn ember
but you cant login through steams site using oauth
and i have no way to get the client id
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auth0 is nice
vernal moth
You can
Wait what do you actually want to do?
You want to have ppl sign into your app using steam, so you can get their user id, eight?
worn ember
yeah but through the steam login page
so i dont have to deal with any of that auth crap
vernal moth
For that you use openid connect, and only need an API key
Yeah you can't touch steam passwords, that's a TOS violation
Api key you can get on steam community/dev/apikey
worn ember
hm
its a desktop app tho
domain name: localhost kappa
no wonder no one makes desktop apps anymore
vernal moth
I can't see the form but maybe they just want some info about you?
Or did they ask for the actual return or redirect uri?
untold copper
day #49 of trying to get abs: 45 minute of intense workout, first part was upper body focused (chest, arms, triceps) and the second half was core (PURELY) core workout. I've done like 5 different types of crunches today lol.
heady spear
I am actually having fun implementing GUIs in Minecraft 🥴 Interfaces is saving me from going insane
@waxen panther 😍
smh turns out it wasn't even minimessage, it's icu 😠
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@heady spear stinky
twin lagoon
@heady spear stinky
arctic basalt
whats that website called to make like a 2d image of your skin in simple pixelart?
arctic basalt
well. thats when Ive started, wanna go back with my delorian and pickup jimmy to get that skin pic you know? but still anyone knows how to get that?
in like nowerdays
supple hazel
What's everyone's opinion on Corn?
austere ivy
What's everyone's opinion on Corn?
@waxen panther might have some opinions on this
foggy elbow
I asked a dev if his plugin worked on paper he told me
I don't work with forks. My plugins are developed for Spigot. It is just a bonus that they work for most forks anyway.
ahahaha I hate this kind of devs :c
austere ivy
I asked a dev if his plugin worked on paper he told me
> I don't work with forks...
I don’t work with forks
they. they do know that spigot is a fork… right?
foggy elbow
They do.. but spigot is not 'considered' as a fork x)
but yeah you can be right on this point 
Paper manage armorstand differently than spigot (for plugin that displays moving armorstands) ?
austere ivy
well
when I was like 10, I wanted to have an mcforums profile pic of my mc skin like all the cool kids had. how did I do this? f5 twice, move your camera into a wall so it goes close to your player, and take a screenshot
I always wondered how everyone else got it so that there was no distortion :’)
nimble depot
https://steamcommunity.com/dev/apikey
I gave the URL a cold, hard look, I still don't trust it
vernal moth
If in doubt, check the SSL cert
untold copper
What's everyone's opinion on Corn?
Corn is the best
true canyon
.ru 🤔
worn ember
if they used such short tokens on steam they wouldve ran out like 10x by now xD
daring laurel
You on some old version?
you mean the main pvp version of hypixel? 😛
quasi valley
ah yes, the hypixel argument
daring laurel
Hypixel, lunar, a lot of lunar servers +++
quasi valley
and about 10x more 1.16/1.17 servers
blissful wing
hm?
twin lagoon
agent what's your thoughts on 1.8
blissful wing
we talking about 1.8 vs newer?
blissful wing
1.9-1.12ish were shit
twin lagoon
yes
blissful wing
1.13-current I've heard is better
quasi valley
and the fanciest of people using Hypixel to argue for 1.8 > latest
twin lagoon
yes
cunning raft
blissful wing
lmao
i lurk everywhere because it's really funny to see some skid say something like "about to ddos hypixel hehehe"
quasi valley
just for the memes I imagine
blissful wing
and then nothing happens
daring laurel
i lurk everywhere because it's really funny to see some skid say something like ...
I just didn't say that...
quasi valley
he didn't say you did either
daring laurel
and the fanciest of people using Hypixel to argue for 1.8 > latest
I'm not arguing, I'm making something so I had a question about 1.8
vernal moth
Unless you are hypixel, you don't get to model your choices after hypixel
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twin lagoon
mari pog ?
daring laurel
oh you work at hypixel...
blissful wing
founded it, yeah
vernal moth
Thats like saying postgres doesn't scale for google, thus I can't use postgres for my 50k mru website
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hello, michale
twin lagoon
worn crest
my argument is 1.8 if he can update his software and care of his server alone or latest 😛 but nothing in between
vernal moth
Agent doesn't work for hypixel, he's an imposter
blissful wing
a secret agent
vernal moth
He works for this fake game now
daring laurel
never coming out ;p
mossy vessel
helo pls send papor 1.8 for my 5 player server administered by som shitty cloud solution
blissful wing
actually i'm on sabbatical 😛
vernal moth
Right, he doesn't work at all 😂
blissful wing
^
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@blissful wing helo! I am from Planet Minecraft and need OP to review your server :-)
vernal moth
Enjoying your time so far?
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smart move!
vernal moth
Any cool side projects?
blissful wing
mostly just making new friends and unpacking
just bought a house
bought a bike, too, so been getting back into that
vernal moth
Uuh, fancy
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now that's a big move!
blissful wing
it's great, I'm in Ashburn VA
my ping is 4ms to all games
because i live within 5 miles of 60% of the east coast's data centers
ashen cliff
just bought a house
One like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/or1j43/just_bought_my_first_home_thank_you_wallstreetbets/
worn crest
helo pls send papor 1.8 for my 5 player server administered by som shitty cloud ...
- free server from somewhere
blissful wing
how did you get a picture of me @ashen cliff
twin lagoon
helo pls send papor 1.8 for my 5 player server administered by som shitty cloud ...
germany is the sole reason those shit cloud solutions exist
i blame you nmf
quasi valley
I blame nmf too
ashen cliff
how did you get a picture of me <@!219443401974611970>
Magic.
twin lagoon
kenny ur part of the problem too with viaversion
mossy vessel
smh my head?
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@quasi valley i am once more asking for viaversion to drop 1.8
mossy vessel
But you are right, all of those very dumb cloud solutions are made by german fuckers
blissful wing
wait what's viaversion's spread nowadays
like are you able to support 1.8 on 1.16 and vice versa?
twin lagoon
yes
mossy vessel
unfortunately