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warm anchor
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this is also why 99.999% of adopted Chinese are all girl here in US

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coz girls are abandoned or donated

hexed dragon
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adepted?

ivory jay
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true, since my grandma had 10 child

vernal moth
ivory jay
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u know what, I will have to do my laundries now

left swift
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Good luck

warm anchor
ivory jay
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I am backkkk

swift root
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Hi backkkk I'm Larry

hexed dragon
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Hello

twin lagoon
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larry tacoPlead

ivory jay
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for some reason, I kinda wanna say "Hi Larry, I am your father"

hexed dragon
vernal moth
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I mean, I don't judge

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But you are 14

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Isn't that a bit early?

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16 I can understand

minor badge
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i dont think larry's interested in that young a daddy

vernal moth
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But idk about 14

ivory jay
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lmao

willow robin
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💀

ivory jay
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冒泡qwq

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.

swift root
void void
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Anyone have advice for hiring proficient plugin devs?

ivory jay
swift root
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take a look at their portfolios and if you have dev friends, have them rate the quality of past work your prospective hire has done

swift root
void void
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Thing is I already have a team, we're looking to scale.

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It seems hard to find others because its such a niche thing, you know

swift root
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get all the devs on your team to rate the quality of prospective new hires portfolios

void void
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I'm trying to find new hires

swift root
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You can usually go to places like helpchat's paid-requests channel, MCM, etc, and you'll get a lot of potential folks just be selective

ivory jay
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I still couldn't figure out what my nickname meant...

warm anchor
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Your existing dev may also have valuable connections for new hires espically in highly specialized and smol community like MC

swift root
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you could also take a look at devs of popular open source plugins (devs that have publicly made it known they're open for paid commission, otherwise it's annoying)

willow robin
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CodedRed does commission based work, but past that, idk

swift root
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and what are you looking to pay new hires? all of that matters because if you're willing to pay more you can go to places where higher quality devs might be interested. then again, if you're paying peanuts you'll get at best a few low-qual devs

ivory jay
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Apparently I am the only one whose making those Minecraft server for fun....

swift root
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i don't need specific numbers, but if it's more than minimum wage CAD (in my opinion) you would be able to start looking for rather excellent (for this community) part-time or full-time devs

warm anchor
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How about paid in exposure Larry

swift root
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nah. if anyone pays in exposure gtfo haha

brave radish
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Larry does commission work wen

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I'd pay for porting Syscraft to a Paper plugin 🤔

warm anchor
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jokes on you Larry only does it for free.

ivory jay
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I had be paying @warm anchor 1 yuan to change his name to EterNity - CEO of mascots

swift root
true canyon
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Alternatively, my first hour can be paid as a year Dota Plus subscription, second hour a year of Nintendo Switch Online, third hour a year of Disney Plus...

swift root
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holy crap that's a genius payment method

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absolutely incredible

true canyon
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That's why they pay me the big bucks

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... glances at bank account ...

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nevermind.

minor badge
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when Z left, he took the paychecks with him (/s)

ancient bolt
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I'd like a year subscription to an unlimited credit card that I don't have to pay please

warm anchor
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They do have that DenWav

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You just gotta pay in the next year run

ancient bolt
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You don't understand

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I said I don't have to pay

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as in, at all, ever

warm anchor
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Lol

worn ember
true canyon
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YOU'D KNOW IF WE WERE FRIENDS Cry

void void
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So $12-$15 CAD.

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We have three devs, with around 30 volunteers.

swift root
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minimum wage here is 15ish, so you're paying for relatively green devs tbh, but even competent green devs are the top of the food chain in this community

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so yeah you've got a decent offer for most people who want a part-timer and aren't professional java devs

true canyon
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Relatively green? Very green. That's half or less a "cheap" dev rate.

swift root
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for actual devs sure haha

true canyon
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But yeah, if you're looking to pick up some students just learning the language themselves it'll probably work out fine.

swift root
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I'm going with like 'average minecraft plugin dev' as a definition of dev

warm anchor
quasi valley
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I'll put "I made Bookit plogens" in my resume

true canyon
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It's great! There's basically one lootbox between 100 and 200!

warm anchor
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Kneny dev of spoogt plugin

worn ember
warm anchor
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The intro video always lags me

void void
# swift root for actual devs sure haha

If you could find a solid dev I'd happily give you a hundred dollars or so if you're interested. It's finding them which is the hardest part since theres very few avenues to reach out.

warm anchor
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Regardless of its old i7

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Or AMD r9

void void
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Especially due to how niche it is.

worn ember
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the main menu uses more gpu than the actual matches

warm anchor
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There used fo have no FPS limit when Dota reborn was made

swift root
worn ember
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gud code ofc

void void
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It's all private, unfortunately, I'll pm you requirements.

warm anchor
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Solid code like one ded have

worn ember
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yes

warm anchor
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Solid

worn ember
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like a rock

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sooo i was implementing a feature and to properly test it i had to make 4 bug reports cuz the stuff i needed to test it didnt work as it should kekwhyper

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(not my code tho)

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one of them was a webpage ddosing itself kekwhyper it kept spamming requests to the api for some reason

golden gust
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holy fucking shit

true canyon
worn ember
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maybe the effects and stuff?

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those usually drop your framerate

formal turret
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how do you have 400 players but ask a question like that? 😔

worn ember
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cuz its factions

golden gust
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better yet

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See their sig.

true canyon
warm anchor
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Zzzcat why are you prefer suffering

worn ember
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yeah i didnt even bother buying it

true canyon
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I made a mistake! 😢

worn ember
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spectre arcana was like what? 150euro to unlock it?

true canyon
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I think cheaper than that but not much cheaper

warm anchor
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Yes

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Valve is greedy

formal turret
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yea, advertising for a host that doesn't even offer what tyhey say they have?

warm anchor
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Thsts just a wanna be cool kid

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Cant even corp anime pfp properly

true canyon
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A little under 140USD, which is under 120 euro.

warm anchor
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Also first public voted arcana to be locked inside BP

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Won’t be last

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So instead of asking players to spend $40 on an arcana now they are asking for $150 with minimum features

true canyon
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Yup! Screw us all.

warm anchor
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And most of them are pay to grind feature for stuff normal players don’t care about imo

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The new event game mode is also an IMBALANCE mess with little to no joys

true canyon
warm anchor
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People are only doing it because it gives levels

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Aghs lab from last event were better

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With real skill involved

true canyon
warm anchor
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Yeah

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Thought I’d avoid r/dota2 sub

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It’s like spigot forum to Dota PepeLa

true canyon
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Useful for memes sometimes

warm anchor
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True

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Nowaday I just play one game here and there

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Nothing too serious

potent fossil
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etern you speak japanese right

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cause there's this video of a dude in japan interviewing people and he went to some dude and the dude replied in japanese and the interviewer goes "that was not nice at all" before moving on to someone else and everyone in the comments is like "wtf did he say" but no natives or learners are in there and im so fucking curious and the author won't translate it

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and i wanna know.

golden gust
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wat?

ivory jay
ashen cliff
golden gust
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You missed the entire fucking point

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Look at the question

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and then look at their signature

ashen cliff
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Could you do 400+ on a single 1.17 instance? Yes.
Would it be cheap? No.

scenic orchid
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ghost ping?

ivory jay
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Is it worse it: No

ashen cliff
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Depends. You do run into client issues at that point tho.

golden gust
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some moron early thought it would be fun to try to ping people

scenic orchid
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that's annoying

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okay

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no worries 🙂

ivory jay
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sry for the ping....

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is there a way to permanently turn off this thing

wispy blade
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but you can hold shift while clicking reply

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OR

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click

worn ember
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Discord devs prefer stickers

ivory jay
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thanks

waxen panther
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My summer host radar is going off

ashen cliff
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Welcome to Hell.

low niche
formal turret
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I mean someone still asked that question...

low niche
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yeah..

golden gust
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one would hope that a hosting provider would know the basics there

golden gust
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unless that's a dedi and splitting the work across a few instances, then 64G is literally a waste of resources

worn ember
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cat knows exactly how much bytes every player needs at any given time at any given situation

golden gust
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how much memory does a player need?

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1

turbid oar
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Cat work with me 🤣
Jk Jk

low niche
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well I knew at a certain point that MC Java servers wouldn't be able to handle that much, but I didn't know how much specifically, so yeah

golden gust
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it's not java that's the issue.

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Java can address like 2TB+ last I knew

ancient bolt
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java can support heaps up to 16TB

low niche
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(wrong wording my bad)

turbid oar
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Why does Starbucks give you a damn paper straw

golden gust
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Just, if you knew anything, you'd know that you're gonna bottleneck the CPU looooooong before you even need 1/2 of that ram

waxen panther
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""""5800X"""" for $2.25 an hour!

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@twin lagoon move us to this

golden gust
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Because paper is better for the environment

turbid oar
golden gust
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So, what you do is, get some paper, spray it with a chemical needed to make the straw waterproof, which makes it unable to be recycled, and so you end up saving the enviro... oh... fuck.

ancient bolt
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of all the solutions to the straw problem (which don't get me started on that), the paper straw is just awful

worn ember
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we use reusable straws at home

golden gust
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reminds me of how all of the companies switched their cables to the "green" alternatives

ancient bolt
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this just in: plastic straws account for such a small percentage of carbon emissions, waste, climate change, and environmental destruction that it just rounds to 0

formal turret
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but turtls

golden gust
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Now, basically, you have a split of companies using the older materials or fabrics which actually last

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OR

turbid oar
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I do like the other straws they used to have 0/

worn ember
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every bit helps ig kekwhyper

ancient bolt
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there are significantly larger fish to fry that we could focus on addressing first which would actually make a real difference

golden gust
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You have companies like apple, etc, who's cables literally disintegrate, and so now everybody is consistently buying new cables...

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B...b...but... THE CLIMATE!

turbid oar
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damn

golden gust
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It's dumb alarmism + pandering

turbid oar
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life is life

worn ember
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apple loves using the climate stuff for a punchline

turbid oar
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money = life basically

golden gust
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instead of addressing the real issues, we waste time throwing our arms up in the air about fucking straws

ancient bolt
worn ember
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meanwhile they disintegrate all their products and make it e-waste instead of allowing refurbishing

ancient bolt
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there are problem people whose entire job is to figure out how to do that

muted portal
golden gust
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yea, but people buy into all the shit because "ohhh, look, the cables are green!"

worn ember
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ofc, but it sells better than saying "i like to rip you off"

turbid oar
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My grandma is pissed off that things break so easily nowadays unlike before

worn ember
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my grandma broke

golden gust
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Now you pollute more and throw more shit out replacing the cable multiple times over the period of its lifetime that it's a complete and total joke

turbid oar
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with money issues

worn ember
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fun fact: light bulbs were so efficient they put a max life expectancy on them to still make profit

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so the basically made them burn out after x hours

golden gust
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worn ember
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golden gust
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yea

ashen cliff
merry talon
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that video made me lose faith in humanity tbh

worn ember
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ive lost it long ago

ashen cliff
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Adding Chew to the based department, for adding those timings as the placeholder. kekwhyper

mental dragon
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heya :)

full rune
mental dragon
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didnt meant to join vc kEk

void void
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what the phoenix616 bot?

limber knotBOT
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Gpt-3

plucky sparrow
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a

limber knotBOT
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it's clearly Gpt-616 smh

void void
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it's a bot pretending to be a human as you can see

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now do beep booo

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boop

golden gust
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and this is somebody pretending they have more than 2 brain cells ^

void void
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hah

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brave of you to assume i even have one working

wispy blade
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brave of you to assume cat has the ability to assume

void void
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spitting straight facts

mighty storm
magic river
ashen cliff
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Understandable.

magic river
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Anyone know how to change a twitch subscription from monthly to every 6 months?

potent fossil
magic river
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So I have to tell it not to renew first?

potent fossil
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No, you can do it now but the payment happens now for the next 6 months

magic river
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The cog gives me "Change Sub Tier", "Change Payment Method", and "Don't Renew Sub"

potent fossil
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Sorry I'm an idiot, not the cog lol.

Lower left purple button "Continue Sub"

magic river
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I only have that button on the one I use my prime sub on

potent fossil
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Oh, amazing.

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Yeah try setting it to not renew first.

magic river
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Looks like I have to wait for it to actually expire too

potent fossil
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It'll change to "Continue Sub" when you're like 3 days away from it expiring

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Kinda annoying

magic river
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Oh nevermind, I just can't go back to every 1 month

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When I change to 6 months the error about having to wait goes away

potent fossil
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Oh noice

waxen panther
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twitch expert is here

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no no continue typing @cunning raft

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tell us how you do your 10 year xqc sub

cunning raft
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@waxen panther

waxen panther
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i am NOT pro jroy

cunning raft
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your nickname is misleading then

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im sorry we will have to ban you for that

waxen panther
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you changed it .

cunning raft
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proof?

waxen panther
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give me moderator and i will show you the logs

austere ivy
magic river
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Ok, I think all my subs are switched over to 6 months with the 15% discount, had to cancel one 6 month one and redo it to get that too

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I won't know for sure until November though because they don't show up as subscriptions on my payments screen with their per-month price until they charge the first time

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And they don't charge the first time until the current sub expires

quasi valley
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How many people are you subbed to? :p

magic river
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7

modern steppe
quasi valley
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I just have my one sneaky Prime sub hehe

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but even for that channel I just watch stream highlights on YouTube

magic river
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6 of them I actually pay for, the other is the prime sub

magic river
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I watch between 0 and 12 hours of twitch every day, probably average like 2 hours

quasi valley
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Between 0 and 12 quite the range pepela

magic river
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Depends on who is streaming and what, if it's some modded Minecraft or Terraria or something grindy like that it makes for good background noise while I'm working

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Unless I felt like jamming to some Tool or something that day

quasi valley
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Yeah that’s nice, as long as the streamers don’t randomly start screaming

magic river
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So some day I'll have a stream on in the background all day but probably actually watch like an hour of it and then after I'm done working if someone is streaming something interesting I'll just stay on Twitch until bed

austere ivy
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never screams and bonus soothing voice

magic river
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Other days they're doing something distracting or no one is streaming so I don't watch anything

quasi valley
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Jroy for example exclusively watches xqc

cunning raft
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@waxen panther how many hours of rust amoung us you watch per day?

cunning raft
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leaf is the xqc simp

quasi valley
waxen panther
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i watch no among us andys

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i am anti- among us andys

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they banned by boy spoon

cunning raft
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ok.

waxen panther
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PLEASE go back to watching xqcOVERWATCH .

cunning raft
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sorry don't know who that is

ivory jay
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btw is Tunity good?

cunning raft
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sure

waxen panther
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do not listen to jroy he is bias

thorny epoch
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hi bros

waxen panther
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hi bro!

ivory jay
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I am serious, is this fork stable?

https://github.com/Tuinity/Tuinity
waxen panther
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Yes

ashen cliff
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Always was. kekwhyper

thorny epoch
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I just come to say that I have paper 1.17.1 installed on my server and it works perfectly

formal turret
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nice

ivory jay
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everybody try this(don't), it is way more stable(not) and way faster(well, this part would be true) than paper(admins don't kill me):

https://github.com/Akarin-project/Akarin
potent fossil
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ok

vernal moth
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What is happening

cunning raft
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Akarin is garbo

ivory jay
cunning raft
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good one

magic river
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It's tuinity plus a couple minor looking patches on top

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Unless they did a really terrible job on those patches it probably runs fine but I don't see why you'd bother with it

ivory jay
magic river
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lol, I haven't had a server since before I worked on CraftBukkit

ivory jay
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You surely won't lose all your saves because of a power outage

cunning raft
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what could go wrong

ivory jay
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And all your config surely won't get corrupted for no reason

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And you surely will get support for it

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lol

magic river
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Isn't that for saving the UUID GameProfile cache?

ivory jay
cunning raft
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anything that uses JsonList

magic river
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What uses it?

cunning raft
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uhhhHHH

golden gust
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ops, whitelist, cache

cunning raft
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yeah that shit

magic river
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Oh, right, ops and whitelist

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Who uses those? 😛

ivory jay
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I would say literally everything

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everything vanilla

magic river
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I'd say for most servers the worst that'll do is wipe your profile cache

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But yeah, that's probably a silly patch

golden gust
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oh, usercache no longer uses that

magic river
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So it's only used for things that don't really matter

cunning raft
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it's another one of those marketing first, patches later forks

magic river
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So the patch is useless and if it ever isn't useless it's dangerous

ivory jay
cunning raft
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okay yes we know

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thank you

golden gust
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lol, so, vanilla no longer uses "JsonList", but, still uses its Logger

magic river
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I haven't run a server since 2011

ivory jay
vernal moth
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Why would you wanna run a server

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Lmao

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Sounds like endless pain

ivory jay
potent fossil
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Explained this to you the other day. Most of us here have been playing MC since it came out in 2009. We've already been there, done that, and got over it. It's been 12 years. A lot of us now just do code for it, or are here for the community

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Try and understand it lol.

vernal moth
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I don't even code for the game

ivory jay
vernal moth
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I code for the community, but I can't remember the last time I had a plugin project open

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Most likely dyescape in 2018 but even there I did more internals

potent fossil
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Me neither. When i say "for it" I mean all community related projects

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hangar included

vernal moth
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Yeah, hangar, paperweight and minimessage is where most of my time I'd spend

ivory jay
vernal moth
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MiniMessage viewer turned out amazing

golden gust
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wen?

potent fossil
golden gust
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release is always a PITA

vernal moth
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I'll iterate on design over my vacation cat and then once am back am gonna implement that

golden gust
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Like, you end up with everybody tryna jump on it because "wooo, release is fun"

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horror is that past the initial patches, everybody disappears more or less

ivory jay
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true

ivory jay
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but the problem is... I don't have any friend in the real world, maybe a few, but I can count them using my fingers.....

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Minecraft is all I can do

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tried other games, but this is the only one I am actually good at...

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ouch, this hurts

magic river
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I wonder when someone will make a ReallyMiniMessage 😛

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Unless MiniMessage is already optimized for jar size

vernal moth
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Zero deps!

waxen panther
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its pretty small now

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😳

vernal moth
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Well, adventure

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But that's packaged with paper

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It's like 5k loc or something

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It got bigger when we refactored stuff, but it's much more extendable and maintainable

ivory jay
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.

potent fossil
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What exactly is the purpose of your dots

golden gust
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It's called mini message cos it was made with german blood, sweat and tears... all of these products having an abnormally high alcohol content...

austere ivy
waxen panther
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it has swifty fan blood now too

fast aspen
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best jdk to download for minecraft?

potent fossil
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latest

worn ember
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all Germans have mini pp

fast aspen
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ty

austere ivy
ivory jay
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︻┳═一

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piu~piu~

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you are dead!

swift root
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czhangdev, your random messages are bordering on spam - please try to stay on topic instead of frequently sending unrelated messages

ivory jay
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aww man

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you are boring

swift root
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absolutely

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also, apparently, dead

ivory jay
swift root
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can't tell anyone that doesn't know it themselves ;)

ivory jay
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@ivory jay I just noticed that I could ping my self....

swift root
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indeed you can

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the only thing you cannot ping is a webhook

plucky sparrow
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a

sage herald
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Why when I put paper 1.17.1 my ram goes 📈📈📈

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5gb/5gb

ashen cliff
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Because you allocated that much.

sage herald
wispy blade
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besides, unused ram is wasted ram

ashen cliff
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It's enough.

sage herald
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And why when I put 1.8 is like 1/5 and 1.17 5/5

wispy blade
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you tell java it can use 5GB, it'll use 5GB

potent fossil
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Memory usage in the JVM does not work like you think it does.

sage herald
sage herald
potent fossil
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The JVM will take that entire 5GB and manage it itself. The OS will report 5GB in use but that may not be the exact truth.

sage herald
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Why?

potent fossil
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Are you using aikar's flags, etc?

sage herald
waxen panther
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kek

sage herald
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Its like

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Put paper

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Open the server

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And ram is full

waxen panther
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and?

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does it crash?

sage herald
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No it dont

potent fossil
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Ok, first of all, 1.8 is ridiculously old. It was not known for its amazing memory usage. It is normal for the OS to report the entire RAM allocation to be "in use".

waxen panther
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if you want it to use less, assign less. if it doesn't crash there is no problem

potent fossil
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The JVM manages the RAM.

sage herald
waxen panther
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if its a host, why on earth do you care how much it uses?????

wispy blade
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your host should be more than capable of managing the backend stuff of your server

sage herald
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Because I dont want that the server rip

formal turret
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as long as you don't oom it's ok 😄

potent fossil
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What's the oldest version you can run on JDK 16?

sage herald
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I dont know

potent fossil
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If you start running newer versions they have to switch the JDK version, and that will change the RAM usage.

sage herald
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I can select

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I have java 11

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The latest and java without numbers

potent fossil
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1.17 can't run on that.

ivory jay
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I am looking for a place to maybe ask for a minecraft skin... any recommendation?

sage herald
#

Wait

#

Ill send a capture

potent fossil
#

Yeah, so expect RAM usage to change. A lot has changed in the JVM. The RAM usage you see is going to depend on the GC of the JDK in use.

worthy geode
#

You can run most of the older versions by using that startup flag that disables the version check. I don't remember it tho

potent fossil
#

In any case, you shouldn't be worried about this.

#

It's a non-issue.

sage herald
#

@potent fossil

potent fossil
#

Ok.

tribal flicker
#

let's go, passed the 2.5TB Bandwidth TCPShield limit in less than 2 days of release valorcry

#

That's a good problem to have, just upgraded, the second tier is unlimited which is sick but does cost 4x as much

potent fossil
#

that means u gotta charge your players idiots 5x as much

tribal flicker
#

holy fuck, i'm gonna have to take that emoji, thank you

potent fossil
#

lmao

tribal flicker
#

bot humans*

potent fossil
#

They are lmao

tribal flicker
#

2 days later devastation I actually just got it though now finally so that's sick

ashen cliff
#

50 Gbps. kekwhyper

tribal flicker
#

At least they weren't full, I would've cried. They always run out in Ashburn istg

fast aspen
#

any way to stop openjdk from taking a bunch of cpu?

magic river
#

Make your server do less

fast aspen
#

im just on vanilla singleplayer

magic river
#

Get Fabric+Sodium+Lithium+Starlight/Phosphor if they're available, otherwise turn down your render distance or get a better computer 😛

fast aspen
#

using iris + sodium, well its not taking a ton of cpu (20%) but making the fan run like a rocket

#

was working like a breeze before installing jdk (and fabric/sodium ofc)

magic river
#

If you're going through the launcher it's not even using the openjdk you installed

golden gust
#

vanillas launcher doesn't use the systems openjdk install unless you made it ^

magic river
#

Minecraft launcher has its own java install

fast aspen
#

gonna try again with regular launcher one sec.. 😂

#

still a process in regular launch that normal?

fast aspen
magic river
#

The vanilla launcher still uses openjdk, it just has its own copy

fast aspen
#

ohh i see

thorny totem
#

any fun unix commands besides cowsay? xD

magic river
#

sl is a good one

thorny totem
#

I remember I had another one but I dont remember it

potent fossil
thorny totem
#

loool

#

thanks guys ahah

potent fossil
#

lol #12

fork bomb

#

"funny commands of linux"

wispy blade
#

wow, the plugin i made in about an hour already has >1 download on spigot kekw

thorny totem
#

xD

magic river
#

I always forget you can give arguments to yes

thorny totem
#

oof

wispy blade
#

something loves papermc

thorny totem
#

yes I love paperMC

golden gust
potent fossil
#

this one is a classic linux joke

unzip; strip; touch; finger; grep; mount; fsck; more; yes; fsck; fsck; fsck; umount; sleep

meager tusk
#

yeah literally classic linux joke

#

i can only imagine people using linux making these types of jokes

potent fossil
#

classic Idriz

meager tusk
#

Thanks

potent fossil
#

love u

meager tusk
#

Same

potent fossil
#

WTF

magic river
#

I want to say that one predates Linux

potent fossil
#

Nevermind hate you, you're being a JERK

wispy blade
#

wtf, rude

meager tusk
#

WTF i literally said Same

thorny totem
#

🤣

meager tusk
#

Ok i might die now

thorny totem
#

rip

meager tusk
#

Bye

#

👻

thorny totem
twin lagoon
wispy blade
golden gust
#

Sounds like a personal problem

wispy blade
#

shut up cat

#

or i'll shit on your magic keyboard

worn ember
#

dont pull other people in your weird kinks smh

tribal flicker
twin lagoon
#

did you order on sunday

wispy blade
#

you haven't even seen my browsing history

worn ember
#

Lets keep it that way zoop

#

man i opened my window for 2 minutes and its already fly metropolis in here

wispy blade
#

lol

#

at least it's not mosquitos

golden gust
#

I got one of those fly zapper things last year

#

such a nice investment but I really gotta find a bit of a better bait

#

(and maybe a better way to hang it...)

worn ember
#

cant really hang those in my room tho lol

proud lance
#

I did lmfao

#

I get them in my room sometimes and its dark so they go to the monitor

#

so I put one on the UPS for a bit and I hear 1-2 pops a night

worn ember
#

I already whacked 8 in the past 10 minutes

#

Mass murder

proud lance
#

I like those electric tennis rackets a lot

worn ember
#

Yeah I might get one of those

proud lance
#

yeah got one at work cause we have bay doors and its the south

golden gust
#

Yea, I just place it on a surface somewhere, not ideal but it's like, eer

wispy blade
worn ember
#

Hmm I could make a yo mama joke here

#

But I'll be nice and say thanks instead

#

opens laptop
My laptop: so anyway, update time

wispy blade
#

yep

limber knotBOT
#

just disable updates thinksmart

wispy blade
worn ember
#

Man I'm too nice for this world

wispy blade
#

i thought about that one

#

then i was like nah that's not unique enough

#

and ew, spending time with something ded's touched

worn ember
#

Wtf

#

Rood

wispy blade
#

.wat

limber knotBOT
void void
#

Ello, so I know this isn’t a paper related question but, does discordsrv take a lot of resources?

waxen panther
#

@cunning raft

void void
#

Is he the creator of discordsrv?

left swift
#

yes

void void
#

Ah

lime oak
#

no

tribal flicker
lime oak
void void
#

What is there discord?

lime oak
#

that's an alternative to discordsrv, yes

waxen panther
#

just dont ask for support there

#

they are very angry people 😳

lime oak
#

only scarsz

#

i would know since i do support there 😉

left swift
#

brocc will defend u if they get angry

waxen panther
#

no i wont

left swift
#

he says that but he will

waxen panther
#

i like to keep 200 metres away from discordsrv at all times

left swift
#

he so modest FeelsWowMan

waxen panther
#

❗ 🔥 sErVer RoOM on FIre

lime oak
#

the very first thing anyone says when joining the support server lol

left swift
#

I used the 2nd build of 1.17 paper to keep my players on their toes. sometimes it crashes maybe sometimes no

#

they love restarting map every 3 hours

#

i can tell

#

brocc u changed bro

waxen panther
#

sorry sir too busy working now 😎

left swift
olive marlin
#

Work changes people sadge

#

Used to be so helpful, now is a pro-jr*y dum dum.

waxen panther
#

i am anti jroy

left swift
#

i remember when brocc used to be very ep*c

olive marlin
#

Your nick clearly states otherwise brocc.

waxen panther
#

jroy believers changed it

left swift
#

any jroyers in the chat?

tribal flicker
waxen panther
#

god forbid it was a useful error

left swift
#

wdym it says its on fire what else would u need

tribal flicker
#

a fire extinguisher pepeclown

merry talon
#

they're undoing forced arbitration?

cunning raft
agile yarrow
#

ñ

peak ginkgo
#

The spammer from yesterday was banned btw Okayge

queen swift
#

Did Spigot just die? Or Its only me?

cunning raft
#

hopefully

#

but uhh no, the website appears to be up

warm anchor
queen swift
#

Come on cloudfare let me in bruh

warm anchor
#

early adopter here fubukisunglasses

viscid wedge
#

Just did some impromptu electrician work

rocky scroll
#

Anyone knows a good way of getting all the minecraft assets rendered? Thank you, feel free to ping me

viscid wedge
#

What's the intended use case here

rocky scroll
#

I want to display them on an app, to list items and such, but the textures on the defualt RP are just the faces of the blocks, so I want to grab somewhere the assets but applied to the model

rocky scroll
rocky scroll
viscid wedge
#

No worries

undone crest
#

Good day

#

How do we change the respawn radius when a player do /suicide

magic river
#

The housing market is crazy right now, empty lots are selling for as much as nice homes were 12 months ago

viscid wedge
#

At this rate the only way I'm getting property is if someone leaves it to me in their will

warm anchor
#

It's ok you can always marry someone who already owns a house 😉

shell vine
magic river
#

btw apparently Amazon tossed their arbitration clause because there have been 75,000 arbitration demands from Echo users and under their own terms Amazon eats the costs for that

#

In court either each side pays their own or loser pays so if you're getting a lot of legal action it's cheaper to do it in court

merry talon
#

I knew it was some bs

cosmic raft
merry talon
#

64 views PES_Think

cosmic raft
warm anchor
#

Road to 69 clicks

potent fossil
#

Interesting

magic river
#

Looks like Nintendo is shutting down the ability to buy stuff on the Japanese 3DS and Wii U eshops next year

#

And they already did in 2019 for Europe?

merry talon
#

Remember when sony tried to do that

magic river
merry talon
#

but nintendo probably gives 0 shits

magic river
#

The Wii eshop and all online services are gone so yeah, Nintendo gives 0 shits 😛

#

iirc you could actually still buy brand new games for the Wii after all that shut down even (Just Dance came out every year still)

#

The only reason Just Dance isn't still putting out yearly Wii releases is Nintendo stopped printing discs

quasi valley
#

pretty sure the last new 3/4 new Wii games are Just Dance, nothing else

wide chasm
#

I still seem to be able to add credit to the 3DS store in Europe

magic river
#

Either it was only for the UK or they backed off of it

wide chasm
#

I only buy physical anyways, so I don't really open it

quasi valley
#

you can stil charge it, just not directly with your credit card

magic river
#

Oh, you can add them to the Nintendo Network (what?) and use them on the 3DS eshop still

#

You can't use the credit card directly, just use it to add funds (basically a gift card) to your account

quasi valley
#

I just hope they won't shutdown the shop and networkd id as well lol

#

yeah

magic river
#

Which I guess is how the Switch works too? I don't really do online purchases for consoles

quasi valley
#

the Switch works on a proper Nintendo account

#

what 3DS and Wii have is really strange

magic river
#

No, I mean the gift card thing

quasi valley
#

oh, no that has proper payment methods

#

... iirc

magic river
#

I know it charges your card directly but I thought it made you add credit in $5 increments

#

It would just do so automatically for you if your account didn't have enough funds

quasi valley
#

I only used the Nintendo shop directly once, I can't remember how that went

magic river
#

For the 3DS you have to manually add funds to their top-level account system first

#

I've only done two things with the Switch store iirc: Sonic Mania and a gift card for a streamer to buy Pokemon

quasi valley
#

might be wrong, but other than adding credit, you can directly pay for whatever you want to pay with the exact price

magic river
#

They're in NI but originally from the US and that's where their bank and such is but Nintendo was throwing a fit about buying stuff from outside their region or something

#

But that's a whole different thing

wide chasm
#

Just ordering a physical game online is easier than using Nintendo's store

magic river
#

Yes

quasi valley
#

and also cheaper 😛

magic river
#

Especially when Amazon gives me a discount for preorders

wide chasm
#

Yeah, really no point in buying digital

quasi valley
#

especially when Nintendo doesn't do sales on their own games, or lower prices even after years

wide chasm
#

Also don't have to worry about storage that way

magic river
#

Instead I have a thing full of carts I can lose 😛

#

And a box full of boxes in the basement

quasi valley
#

lol

magic river
#

I'm never willing to do that with discs though, those have the stay in their original box

#

I think it's from using carts as a kid, we always either just left those out or put them in custom cases

#

And the boxes back then were impractical cardboard stuff you either just tossed out, lost, or got ruined

wide chasm
#

Fun thing about the 3DS store is that when signing in, the keyboard doesn't have all special characters, so you can end up with a password set via your pc that can't be entered on your 3DS. Was fun resetting that again back when I bought my 3DS.

golden gust
#

Well, the cases for many games where oftne kinda chunky compared to the actual storage medium

#

Like, the DS carts, gba cards, PSP discs, etc

magic river
#

pfft, old school game boxes were the size of a dictionary

quasi valley
#

god those were horrible

#

extra physical items like game maps or similar were cool tho, I miss those kind of trinkets

golden gust
#

Like, think most portables of that era had some random carry cases you could buy to store your games in that wasn't like carrying several dozen game cases around

#

ofc, that often meant that the original boxes often got thrown around and shit or lost

magic river
#

I have one of those for my switch, it's where my games are 😛

quasi valley
cosmic raft
#

it's called "founders editions" and they cost $300

quasi valley
#

yeah lol

magic river
#

iirc I have more games than it has slots now so they just get tossed in there wherever

wide chasm
#

I still keep them in their boxes, easier to store for me

magic river
#

I've been meaning to get a proper bookshelf so I can put all the boxes up and make them easy to access

#

Then just toss the ones I'm likely to want to play in the case when I take my switch somewhere

golden gust
#

The big reason for that type of stuff was so that you could take your games with you without juggling several boxes or having to decide which ones you wanted to take with you, generally always forgetting s good one

magic river
#

Or just throw out all the old PS2 games and DVDs my uncle has on his TV stand and use those shelves 😄

#

Hasn't been a PS2 in this house for like 8 years

wide chasm
#

Sell them for 1.5M dollars /s

golden gust
#

Kinda miss having a ps but emulations these days are really on par

magic river
#

Hell, we haven't had anything that can play DVDs for like 4 years and my uncle decided to start pretending he didn't know how anything more complicated than a transistor radio worked a few years before that so he never used it

#

He brings me the universal remote to turn the TV on for him because having to turn on a TV, cable box, and sound bar is too complicated

golden gust
#

Tell me something more beautiful than the moment when the dvd logo bounces in the corner

magic river
#

Cable box is only still there because he pretends smart TVs are futuristic alien technology so won't figure out how to use streaming services

quasi valley
#

nice pepela

magic river
#

Alt text reminded me, he almost figured out how to print something the other day

#

But I don't really fault him there, printers are demonspawn

wispy blade
#

should translate this to dutch and hand it to my little sister kekw

quasi valley
#

printers are a scam, at least we're slowly getting to the point where I don't have to unnecessarily print, sign, and re-scan a bunch of sheets of paper

magic river
golden gust
#

Oh god

#

My grandfather had s printer which he always plugged out when he was done with it

golden gust
#

I forgot to unplug it once and so he did it and told me, basically, it runs a clean basically every day

#

Nothing like a printer which basically pisses out ink daily

wispy blade
#

my grandpa does the exact same lol

serene bolt
quasi valley
#

I got my mom YouTube Premium because I couldn't bear her constantly having to watch ads on her phone pepela

vernal moth
#

Should have just installed YouTube vanced

void void
#

piracy bad!!!

vernal moth
#

YouTube vanced isn't piracy?

#

Its not circumventing Copyright protections

void void
#

oh ok then

worn ember
#

They wish it was illegal so they could ban it cx

void void
#

Ovh is cheaper than shockbyte

#

?

twin lagoon
#

depends

#

there's better hosts out there, ovh is really only good if you take a dedicated server

worn crest
#

and I'm still paying 50€ for 32gb ram and a i7 4470 or like that 😅

ashen cliff
#

That's like 32€ at Hetzner. kekwhyper

worn ember
#

hetzner gang

worn crest
#

I don't even think they have 32gb. I experienced yesterday that my host don't offer 32gb ram server anymore because it's not worth but I still have my

ashen cliff
#

My Hetzner machine is still 64GB, but they only offer a 128GB version of it now.

worn ember
#

hm, so someone made a pr that creates a merge conflict on master, how can i "pull" that pr and see the conflicts?

meager tusk
#

have you tried GOOGLING it DED?

twin lagoon
#

IDRIZ!

meager tusk
#

🚶‍♂️

ashen cliff
#

FORCE!

meager tusk
#

FACT!

twin lagoon
#

BRO!

void void
twin lagoon
#

you're not mentioning what cpu it is

#

core count means shit if you don't know what you're using

meager tusk
#

removes tests
force pushes with experimental commit
doesn't elaborate
fucking leaves

void void
#

Ryzen 7

twin lagoon
#

what ryzen 7

void void
twin lagoon
#

you're like saying "what car? volkswagen"

#

thank you

#

get the normal game-2

#

game-2-le is outdated they've got 5800x's now

void void
twin lagoon
#

no idea

#

considering you said shockbyte just get the game-1 and get over it

#

since i highly doubt you'd need a game-2

void void
# void void

Having this plan 128gb 1 machine better
Or 2 machines
64 ram same plan

twin lagoon
#

what do you need 128gb for

#

more ram =/= better

ashen cliff
#

CPU > Ram.

twin lagoon
#

you'd likely be fine with 1 machine and 64gb ram

void void
twin lagoon
#

how many servers

#

how many players

void void
#

1-3 proxies
1-2 lobby
2 survival server (60-100 player limit)
2 bedwars
2 arcade/minigames

twin lagoon
#

you're fine with 64gb ram

#

you don't need 3 proxies either

void void
#

1 proxy enough

#

?

twin lagoon
#

your bedwars & minigames servers will be dead on day 1 because no one wants to play that so that's also fine

#

1 proxy is fine aslong as it's velocity

void void
#

The owner (i am dev of that server not a owner)
Expects 1k+ player

twin lagoon
#

a server that gets 1k+ players does not come in papermc asking for advice

#

80 players take it or leave it

void void
#

bruh

twin lagoon
#

it is what it is

void void
#

It is going to release , its not released yet

#

If 2 machines then?

twin lagoon
#

1 machine is still fine

void void
#

We have more players

twin lagoon
#

my guy you're literally not getting nor fitting 1k players on the servers you've mentioned

void void
#

*We would have

twin lagoon
#

yes

#

have you ever seen a succesful server with 1k players that has both survival & minigames as gamemode

#

exactly no one has

ashen cliff
#

I did. kekwhyper

twin lagoon
#

krusic KGBCraft doesn't count

vernal moth
#

Mfw waiting at the vaccination site in the company for 15min after my second shot is the first rest I got today

ashen cliff
#

Lasted like 1 week.

vernal moth
#

Why are vacations so stressful?

twin lagoon
#

although you're not wrong either cracked servers would probably be able to pull that shit off

vernal moth
#

I don't even have the car ready yet, it's still at the service center in repair 😂 😂

twin lagoon
#

jartex is a perfect example of that aswell

#

every gamemode in existence is there

ashen cliff
#

Shotbow. kekwhyper

twin lagoon
#

dead

ashen cliff
#

AF.

#

MineZ was good, before it got overflown with hackers and tryhards.

twin lagoon
#

minez PepeHands

ashen cliff
#

Also that based person that copied the whole map.

void void
#

Tg network has 1k players
3 gamemodes

twin lagoon
#

ok but that's cracked & indian

void void
#

Indian server gets less players

vernal moth
#

I never played minez i don't think, but I know it from the dev logs on Reddit 😂

twin lagoon
#

"gets less players"

#

has 1k on with shit content

void void
#

In Comparison to America

ashen cliff
#

I think I'm still stuck in a place I shouldn't be in, no idea if they do resets.

vernal moth
#

All my coworkers (most I don't actually know) be staring at me cause am sitting here with my flip flops and big head phones just vibing

#

While they coming from office and going to go back to office after this

limber knotBOT
#

MineZ was awesome in the early days, when people were still friendly instead of killing you on-sight lol

#

I had one run where we had a group of like 20 people just roaming the world, that was fun

heady spear
#

@minor badge uwu @mental meadow awa @twin lagoon 💩

#

ok daily chores r done

twin lagoon
#

uwu

heady spear
#

ur a smelly boi

twin lagoon
#

go work

heady spear
#

I wanna get gucci slides because my Polish friend had them while she was visiting and she looked cool

twin lagoon
#

no

heady spear
#

I wanna work but I feel like SHIT

#

stupid vaccine

twin lagoon
#

too bad !

heady spear
#

it's prolly the 5G microship they implanted in me

#

"ship"

#

great c now i can't even spläll

limber knotBOT
#

one would think that chip comes with auto correct 👀

void void
heady spear
#

@twin lagoon wanna go play on the gucci x roblox thingy with me? x

twin lagoon
vernal moth
#

Wow the bezos launch is so cringe

#

They use mph and ft for speed and altitude

#

That alone shows they are no real engineers, smh

limber knotBOT
#

oof

void void
warm anchor
worn ember
#

Kaas

thick flower
#

Hallo?

willow robin
#

Hi

mortal zinc
#

what is the best way to extract the minecraft version from a server .jar?

#

i just want to see what others have come up with

#

and a way that works with a range of minecraft versions and server implementations

hexed dragon
limber knotBOT
#

oh god no

#

what are zey doing

mortal zinc
#

i imagine reading the console for the line [17:06:57] [Server thread/INFO]: Starting minecraft server version <version> would be pretty universal

#

i don't imagine a custom server would ever remove that log entry

limber knotBOT
#

I think paper provides the server version in the MANIFEST.MF

#

that being said, the server will run as usual if it is missing - though stuff like /version will be bork

worn ember
#

the hackiest way would be to hook into the process and yoink the version from the output

#

another way would be to create a plugin that gets that info and puts it somewhere

mortal zinc
#

well i'm not going to just support paper with a tool i'm working on, it's a testing tool so it needs to be able to start servers, and it would be nice to know the minecraft version of the server

worn ember
#

does the tool interact with the server itself?

mortal zinc
#

@worn ember yea with Java just listen to the output stream of the process

#

it just starts a server process

#

err... input stream

worn ember
#

he said hes not tho

mortal zinc
#

yeah i'm not just supporting paper

#

it'll be a rather universal kinda thing, allowing you to quickly test development of servers/plugins

worn ember
#

well you could just pack a jar with it and make it generate a plugin folder and copy it over

#

but then the server would have to run first beore you know its version

#

is the version a hardcoded string? or is dependant on fork?

mortal zinc
#

tbh i think reading the process' output stream would be the easiest

queen tusk
#

.flags

limber knotBOT
mortal zinc
#

it's an almost guarantee all the servers will have [17:06:57] [Server thread/INFO]: Starting minecraft server version 1.13.2 in the output, you think?

worn ember
#

thats also how i did it for my custom server launcher

mortal zinc
#

so i don't need to hook anything

#

and obfuscation wouldn't matter

#

unless there's a resource file that is present in vanilla that i could read

tulip inlet
#

version.json

worn ember
#

lol

magic river
#

I had 6 bottles of this really tasty orange soda, comes in glass bottles and uses real sugar. I drank 3 of them and told my uncle he could have one, went to grab one today and they're all gone 😦

worn ember
#

your teeth thank him

mortal zinc
#

@tulip inlet is that a file in the server .jar? seems like that would be client related

tulip inlet
#

it is

#

but ive only looked at 1.17, idk if it always existed

brave radish
#

iirc Paperclip also has the Paper commit hash in it

magic river
#

I bet 1.8 doesn't have version.json 😛

#

If it does I bet 1.0 doesn't, how far back do you want to support?

limber knotBOT
#

oh my god is that the mbaxter?

mortal zinc
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@tulip inlet oh neat, i'd have to see how far back that goes, if it's not just a new file in 1.17

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good question @magic river , when I initially thought of this project it would mainly support bukkit servers, but I guess your question is a good one to think about

worn ember
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support as far back as is convenient for you

blissful wing
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aha my IRC client was not up to present, sorry for the necro ping mbaxter

magic river
worn ember
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id say 'thats wha you get for using irc" but it happens often in discord too xD

mortal zinc
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perhaps 1.7 since that was the last real bukkit release

limber knotBOT
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I think this is a fairly common thing to happen

mortal zinc
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lol

blissful wing
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

quasi valley
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I see you're at least making good use of your free nitro month, amaranth

limber knotBOT
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I like that it grabs my avatar for the bot though

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most bridges do

brave radish
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@mortal zinc, that begs the question: do you want to support people still using 1.7?

mortal zinc
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it just starts server processes though, so it's not like i can't support all the way back to 1.0, depends on the version extraction method, how far that can go back to in a reasonable way

worn ember
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could try one way, if it fails, switch over to legacy method or something

tulip inlet
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1.8 doesnt have version.json

mortal zinc
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i myself don't understand why anyone is using 1.7/1.8 still

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does 1.9+ @tulip inlet ?

tulip inlet
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no clue, not going to download all jars and look at them

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but its probably quite new

twin lagoon
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agentk PogPause

quasi valley
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michale kappapride

blissful wing
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yo

twin lagoon
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knenwald PogPause

mortal zinc
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version.json is embedded within client.jar in .minecraft/versions/<version> or server.jar since 18w47b. It offers some basic information about the version's attributes.

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well thereh you go

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and i looked at what version that snapshot is for: 1.14

blissful wing
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whomst i tag to get notable rank on disc?

twin lagoon
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@cosmic raft

blissful wing
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mb @vernal moth ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

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❤️

twin lagoon
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speedrun

cosmic raft
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hi agent

blissful wing
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yo

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also holy shit @azure trout didn't know you still maintained dynmap after all these years

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my face when that's where my searches led me when wanting a webmap for a modded runthrough

cosmic raft
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other decent option is bluemap I think

twin lagoon
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bluemap epic

worn ember
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now we need a communism redmap

blissful wing
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bought you a coffee

rocky scaffold
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oof i cant manage to break bedrock in my server even with all of the needed options turned on

queen tusk
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Pl3xMap!

rocky scaffold
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i dont i cant

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lmao

worn ember
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English: 💯

rocky scaffold
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yes lol

queen tusk
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.bedrock

limber knotBOT
worn ember
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does it working spigot/vanilla?

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oh god

wispy blade
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nice english DED

worn ember
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its contagious

wispy blade
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screenshotting that

worn ember
formal turret
rocky scaffold
worn ember
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paper bedrock wen

worn ember
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try it on spigot

rocky scaffold
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it shouldnt work on spigot

worn ember
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do they patch it?

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thought that was a paper thing

rocky scaffold
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and anyway my server is now paper so it doesnt matter

worn ember
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its for reproducability

rocky scaffold
rocky scaffold
worn ember
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ig you can make a bug report for it if you're sure its not on your end and maybe someone will bother

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but usually for exploits people tend to reee at you

rocky scaffold
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yeah it is also an unsupported setting so like paper shouldn't help you with it

worn ember
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well if its broken, it should still be fixed lol

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else not much point in having it at all

rocky scaffold
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it is true

void void
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Is there a seed cracking protection feature in paper?

wispy blade
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kinda

void void
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huh

olive marlin
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Also use different seed for each world :)

rocky scaffold
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i managed to break the bedrock, i dont know why but allowing the headless piston bug made it not work

magic river
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There is a PR open to let you change the seed for every feature

worn ember
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whats a feature? like different foliage seeds and such?

magic river
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

wispy blade
worn ember
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thanqq

icy arrow
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does paper skip ticks or is that just spigot?

twin lagoon
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spigot

icy arrow
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kk I have heard before paper skips ticks

vernal moth
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Paper actively disables that bullshit

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Wooo

brave prism
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.xray

limber knotBOT
worn ember
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i always read his name as Stoner69