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adepted?
true, since my grandma had 10 child
Adopted
u know what, I will have to do my laundries now
Good luck

I am backkkk
Hi backkkk I'm Larry
Hello
larry 
for some reason, I kinda wanna say "Hi Larry, I am your father"

I mean, I don't judge
But you are 14
Isn't that a bit early?
16 I can understand
i dont think larry's interested in that young a daddy
But idk about 14
lmao
💀
You're right, but I could go for a Mari that's just about your age 😳
Anyone have advice for hiring proficient plugin devs?
I don't think is the appropriate place to ask such a question
take a look at their portfolios and if you have dev friends, have them rate the quality of past work your prospective hire has done
it's fine here, don't feel a need to moderate when there are mods around 😄
Thing is I already have a team, we're looking to scale.
It seems hard to find others because its such a niche thing, you know
get all the devs on your team to rate the quality of prospective new hires portfolios
I'm trying to find new hires
You can usually go to places like helpchat's paid-requests channel, MCM, etc, and you'll get a lot of potential folks just be selective
I still couldn't figure out what my nickname meant...
Your existing dev may also have valuable connections for new hires espically in highly specialized and smol community like MC
you could also take a look at devs of popular open source plugins (devs that have publicly made it known they're open for paid commission, otherwise it's annoying)
CodedRed does commission based work, but past that, idk
out of interest, how big's the current team
and what are you looking to pay new hires? all of that matters because if you're willing to pay more you can go to places where higher quality devs might be interested. then again, if you're paying peanuts you'll get at best a few low-qual devs
Apparently I am the only one whose making those Minecraft server for fun....
i don't need specific numbers, but if it's more than minimum wage CAD (in my opinion) you would be able to start looking for rather excellent (for this community) part-time or full-time devs
nah. if anyone pays in exposure gtfo haha
jokes on you Larry only does it for free.
I had be paying @warm anchor 1 yuan to change his name to EterNity - CEO of mascots
at this point, anything more would be a scam
You can expose me to large amounts of money in my bank account.
Alternatively, my first hour can be paid as a year Dota Plus subscription, second hour a year of Nintendo Switch Online, third hour a year of Disney Plus...
when Z left, he took the paychecks with him (/s)
I'd like a year subscription to an unlimited credit card that I don't have to pay please
Lol
do you have the pay to lag battlepass?
It's around $10-$12 USD per hour with increase in future, with part/full time.
So $12-$15 CAD.
We have three devs, with around 30 volunteers.
minimum wage here is 15ish, so you're paying for relatively green devs tbh, but even competent green devs are the top of the food chain in this community
so yeah you've got a decent offer for most people who want a part-timer and aren't professional java devs
Relatively green? Very green. That's half or less a "cheap" dev rate.
for actual devs sure haha
But yeah, if you're looking to pick up some students just learning the language themselves it'll probably work out fine.
I'm going with like 'average minecraft plugin dev' as a definition of dev
Pay to lose you mean
I'll put "I made Bookit plogens" in my resume
It's great! There's basically one lootbox between 100 and 200!
Kneny dev of spoogt plugin
apparently it makes you lag like crazy too xD
The intro video always lags me
If you could find a solid dev I'd happily give you a hundred dollars or so if you're interested. It's finding them which is the hardest part since theres very few avenues to reach out.
Especially due to how niche it is.
the main menu uses more gpu than the actual matches
There used fo have no FPS limit when Dota reborn was made
Do you have any open repos so I can see what sort of code quality your team's at? it's hard to know what y'all classify as 'solid dev'
gud code ofc
It's all private, unfortunately, I'll pm you requirements.
Solid code like one ded have
yes
Solid
like a rock
sooo i was implementing a feature and to properly test it i had to make 4 bug reports cuz the stuff i needed to test it didnt work as it should 
(not my code tho)
one of them was a webpage ddosing itself
it kept spamming requests to the api for some reason
holy fucking shit
What would be causing the lag only for BP owners?
how do you have 400 players but ask a question like that? 😔
cuz its factions
As if I'm nearly high enough a level to unlock anything useful! This BP is disappointing!
Zzzcat why are you prefer suffering
yeah i didnt even bother buying it
I made a mistake! 😢
spectre arcana was like what? 150euro to unlock it?
I think cheaper than that but not much cheaper
yea, advertising for a host that doesn't even offer what tyhey say they have?
A little under 140USD, which is under 120 euro.
Also first public voted arcana to be locked inside BP
Won’t be last
So instead of asking players to spend $40 on an arcana now they are asking for $150 with minimum features
Yup! Screw us all.
And most of them are pay to grind feature for stuff normal players don’t care about imo
The new event game mode is also an IMBALANCE mess with little to no joys
People are only doing it because it gives levels
Aghs lab from last event were better
With real skill involved
Useful for memes sometimes
etern you speak japanese right
cause there's this video of a dude in japan interviewing people and he went to some dude and the dude replied in japanese and the interviewer goes "that was not nice at all" before moving on to someone else and everyone in the comments is like "wtf did he say" but no natives or learners are in there and im so fucking curious and the author won't translate it
and i wanna know.
why?
wat?
this! why would you have a single server with 64GB of ram allocated to it???
You missed the entire fucking point
Look at the question
and then look at their signature
Could you do 400+ on a single 1.17 instance? Yes.
Would it be cheap? No.
ghost ping?
Is it worse it: No
Depends. You do run into client issues at that point tho.
some moron early thought it would be fun to try to ping people
400? On spigot?
More like 4 
more like 0.4
sry for the ping....
is there a way to permanently turn off this thing
Discord devs prefer stickers
My summer host radar is going off
Welcome to Hell.
well the question wasn't necessarily from me, it was from someone else, and I just asked spigot for them
I mean someone still asked that question...
yeah..
one would hope that a hosting provider would know the basics there
something
unless that's a dedi and splitting the work across a few instances, then 64G is literally a waste of resources
cat knows exactly how much bytes every player needs at any given time at any given situation
Cat work with me 🤣
Jk Jk
well I knew at a certain point that MC Java servers wouldn't be able to handle that much, but I didn't know how much specifically, so yeah
java can support heaps up to 16TB
(wrong wording my bad)
Why does Starbucks give you a damn paper straw
Just, if you knew anything, you'd know that you're gonna bottleneck the CPU looooooong before you even need 1/2 of that ram
Because paper is better for the environment
yeah but in the startbucks drink it rips
So, what you do is, get some paper, spray it with a chemical needed to make the straw waterproof, which makes it unable to be recycled, and so you end up saving the enviro... oh... fuck.
of all the solutions to the straw problem (which don't get me started on that), the paper straw is just awful
we use reusable straws at home
reminds me of how all of the companies switched their cables to the "green" alternatives
this just in: plastic straws account for such a small percentage of carbon emissions, waste, climate change, and environmental destruction that it just rounds to 0
but turtls
Now, basically, you have a split of companies using the older materials or fabrics which actually last
OR
I do like the other straws they used to have 0/
every bit helps ig 
there are significantly larger fish to fry that we could focus on addressing first which would actually make a real difference
You have companies like apple, etc, who's cables literally disintegrate, and so now everybody is consistently buying new cables...
B...b...but... THE CLIMATE!
damn
It's dumb alarmism + pandering
life is life
apple loves using the climate stuff for a punchline
money = life basically
instead of addressing the real issues, we waste time throwing our arms up in the air about fucking straws
do as little as possible while convincing people you're making a big difference
meanwhile they disintegrate all their products and make it e-waste instead of allowing refurbishing
there are problem people whose entire job is to figure out how to do that
Making people buy replacements has always been apple’s goal, regardless of the climate
yea, but people buy into all the shit because "ohhh, look, the cables are green!"
ofc, but it sells better than saying "i like to rip you off"
My grandma is pissed off that things break so easily nowadays unlike before
my grandma broke
Now you pollute more and throw more shit out replacing the cable multiple times over the period of its lifetime that it's a complete and total joke
same here your not alone. thats why I am creating a company to help my family out 😛
with money issues
fun fact: light bulbs were so efficient they put a max life expectancy on them to still make profit
so the basically made them burn out after x hours
bruh lol
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yea
Aikar's Timings Viewer - View Timings v2 reports from Paper and Sponge
that video made me lose faith in humanity tbh
ive lost it long ago
122T??????
Adding Chew to the based department, for adding those timings as the placeholder. 
heya :)

didnt meant to join vc 
this
what the phoenix616 bot?
Gpt-3
a
it's clearly Gpt-616 smh
and this is somebody pretending they have more than 2 brain cells ^
brave of you to assume cat has the ability to assume
spitting straight facts
def one of my favorites, unforgettable
Single use plastics in general are harmful, this is probably the wrong one to start with though
Understandable.
Anyone know how to change a twitch subscription from monthly to every 6 months?
https://www.twitch.tv/subscriptions
click cog -> continue sub -> renew every -> 6 months
but gotta pay right then
So I have to tell it not to renew first?
No, you can do it now but the payment happens now for the next 6 months
The cog gives me "Change Sub Tier", "Change Payment Method", and "Don't Renew Sub"
Sorry I'm an idiot, not the cog lol.
Lower left purple button "Continue Sub"
I only have that button on the one I use my prime sub on
first thing that came into my mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RRyniZG0Jo
Looks like I have to wait for it to actually expire too
It'll change to "Continue Sub" when you're like 3 days away from it expiring
Kinda annoying
Oh nevermind, I just can't go back to every 1 month
When I change to 6 months the error about having to wait goes away
Oh noice
twitch expert is here
no no continue typing @cunning raft
tell us how you do your 10 year xqc sub
@waxen panther
i am NOT pro jroy
you changed it .
proof?
give me moderator and i will show you the logs
only 16TB ram? wow, limitation much. switching to c++
Ok, I think all my subs are switched over to 6 months with the 15% discount, had to cancel one 6 month one and redo it to get that too
I won't know for sure until November though because they don't show up as subscriptions on my payments screen with their per-month price until they charge the first time
And they don't charge the first time until the current sub expires
How many people are you subbed to? :p
7
switching to asm
I just have my one sneaky Prime sub hehe
but even for that channel I just watch stream highlights on YouTube
6 of them I actually pay for, the other is the prime sub
booo
I watch between 0 and 12 hours of twitch every day, probably average like 2 hours
Between 0 and 12 quite the range 
Depends on who is streaming and what, if it's some modded Minecraft or Terraria or something grindy like that it makes for good background noise while I'm working
Unless I felt like jamming to some Tool or something that day
Yeah that’s nice, as long as the streamers don’t randomly start screaming
So some day I'll have a stream on in the background all day but probably actually watch like an hour of it and then after I'm done working if someone is streaming something interesting I'll just stay on Twitch until bed
that's why Ethoslab is my preferred "just put something on so I don't feel lonely"
never screams and bonus soothing voice
Other days they're doing something distracting or no one is streaming so I don't watch anything
Jroy for example exclusively watches xqc
@waxen panther how many hours of rust amoung us you watch per day?
this is false
leaf is the xqc simp

zero
i watch no among us andys
i am anti- among us andys
they banned by boy spoon
ok.
PLEASE go back to watching xqcOVERWATCH .
sorry don't know who that is
btw is Tunity good?
sure
do not listen to jroy he is bias
hi bros
hi bro!
I am serious, is this fork stable?
https://github.com/Tuinity/Tuinity
Yes
Always was. 
I just come to say that I have paper 1.17.1 installed on my server and it works perfectly
nice
everybody try this(don't), it is way more stable(not) and way faster(well, this part would be true) than paper(admins don't kill me):
https://github.com/Akarin-project/Akarin
ok
What is happening
Akarin is garbo
yes, I know, I am joking
good one
It's tuinity plus a couple minor looking patches on top
Unless they did a really terrible job on those patches it probably runs fine but I don't see why you'd bother with it
I dare you to use it for your server
lol, I haven't had a server since before I worked on CraftBukkit
You surely won't lose all your saves because of a power outage
what could go wrong
And all your config surely won't get corrupted for no reason
And you surely will get support for it
lol
Isn't that for saving the UUID GameProfile cache?
Yea, what could go wrong except for your server getting corrupted entirely... lmao
anything that uses JsonList
What uses it?
uhhhHHH
ops, whitelist, cache
yeah that shit
I'd say for most servers the worst that'll do is wipe your profile cache
But yeah, that's probably a silly patch
oh, usercache no longer uses that
So it's only used for things that don't really matter
it's another one of those marketing first, patches later forks
So the patch is useless and if it ever isn't useless it's dangerous
btw, apart from that, it uses fairly a lot of dangerous patches, my advice: DON'T USE IT
lol, so, vanilla no longer uses "JsonList", but, still uses its Logger
I haven't run a server since 2011
why thought?
I do it for fun...
Explained this to you the other day. Most of us here have been playing MC since it came out in 2009. We've already been there, done that, and got over it. It's been 12 years. A lot of us now just do code for it, or are here for the community
Try and understand it lol.
I don't even code for the game
Also because I don't have any friend in the real world *ouch
I code for the community, but I can't remember the last time I had a plugin project open
Most likely dyescape in 2018 but even there I did more internals
Me neither. When i say "for it" I mean all community related projects
hangar included
Yeah, hangar, paperweight and minimessage is where most of my time I'd spend
but 1.17 release is pretty fun.. right?
MiniMessage viewer turned out amazing
wen?
Fun to check out. Not to play for very long.
release is always a PITA
I'll iterate on design over my vacation cat and then once am back am gonna implement that
Like, you end up with everybody tryna jump on it because "wooo, release is fun"
horror is that past the initial patches, everybody disappears more or less
true
but the problem is... I don't have any friend in the real world, maybe a few, but I can count them using my fingers.....
Minecraft is all I can do
tried other games, but this is the only one I am actually good at...
ouch, this hurts
I wonder when someone will make a ReallyMiniMessage 😛
Unless MiniMessage is already optimized for jar size
Zero deps!
Well, adventure
But that's packaged with paper
It's like 5k loc or something
It got bigger when we refactored stuff, but it's much more extendable and maintainable
.
What exactly is the purpose of your dots
It's called mini message cos it was made with german blood, sweat and tears... all of these products having an abnormally high alcohol content...
pretty sure that they meant ReallyMiniMessage as in extra german blood, sweat and tears (and beer)
it has swifty fan blood now too
best jdk to download for minecraft?
latest
all Germans have mini pp
ty
untrue
czhangdev, your random messages are bordering on spam - please try to stay on topic instead of frequently sending unrelated messages
guess you are not that boring
can't tell anyone that doesn't know it themselves ;)
@ivory jay I just noticed that I could ping my self....
a
Because you allocated that much.
It's not enough?
besides, unused ram is wasted ram
It's enough.
And why when I put 1.8 is like 1/5 and 1.17 5/5
you tell java it can use 5GB, it'll use 5GB
Memory usage in the JVM does not work like you think it does.
But only happens on 1.17
And doesn't matter if is on 5gb?
The JVM will take that entire 5GB and manage it itself. The OS will report 5GB in use but that may not be the exact truth.
But in other versions it dont take the 5gb
Why?
Are you using aikar's flags, etc?
I dont have any flag
kek
No it dont
Ok, first of all, 1.8 is ridiculously old. It was not known for its amazing memory usage. It is normal for the OS to report the entire RAM allocation to be "in use".
if you want it to use less, assign less. if it doesn't crash there is no problem
The JVM manages the RAM.
But how, is a host
Now I have 1.12 paper and I have 1.x gb of ram
if its a host, why on earth do you care how much it uses?????
your host should be more than capable of managing the backend stuff of your server
Because I dont want that the server rip
as long as you don't oom it's ok 😄
What's the oldest version you can run on JDK 16?
I dont know
If you start running newer versions they have to switch the JDK version, and that will change the RAM usage.
1.17 can't run on that.
I am looking for a place to maybe ask for a minecraft skin... any recommendation?
Yeah, so expect RAM usage to change. A lot has changed in the JVM. The RAM usage you see is going to depend on the GC of the JDK in use.
You can run most of the older versions by using that startup flag that disables the version check. I don't remember it tho
@potent fossil
Ok.
Ok!
let's go, passed the 2.5TB Bandwidth TCPShield limit in less than 2 days of release 
That's a good problem to have, just upgraded, the second tier is unlimited which is sick but does cost 4x as much
holy fuck, i'm gonna have to take that emoji, thank you
lmao
bot humans*
They are lmao
2 days later
I actually just got it though now finally so that's sick
50 Gbps.
At least they weren't full, I would've cried. They always run out in Ashburn istg
any way to stop openjdk from taking a bunch of cpu?
Make your server do less
im just on vanilla singleplayer
Get Fabric+Sodium+Lithium+Starlight/Phosphor if they're available, otherwise turn down your render distance or get a better computer 😛
using iris + sodium, well its not taking a ton of cpu (20%) but making the fan run like a rocket
was working like a breeze before installing jdk (and fabric/sodium ofc)
If you're going through the launcher it's not even using the openjdk you installed
vanillas launcher doesn't use the systems openjdk install unless you made it ^
Minecraft launcher has its own java install
gonna try again with regular launcher one sec.. 😂
still a process in regular launch that normal?
mistake in wording, was using Iris + Sodium launch
The vanilla launcher still uses openjdk, it just has its own copy
ohh i see
any fun unix commands besides cowsay? xD
sl is a good one
I remember I had another one but I dont remember it
wow, the plugin i made in about an hour already has >1 download on spigot 
xD
I always forget you can give arguments to yes
something loves papermc
yes I love paperMC
I'm not the creator of the Simpsons, This is Episode 7 of season 7, Homer gains weight to be able to work from home, i picked out a few scenes i found hilarious
this one is a classic linux joke
unzip; strip; touch; finger; grep; mount; fsck; more; yes; fsck; fsck; fsck; umount; sleep
yeah literally classic linux joke
i can only imagine people using linux making these types of jokes
classic Idriz
Thanks
love u
Same
WTF
I want to say that one predates Linux
Nevermind hate you, you're being a JERK
wtf, rude
WTF i literally said Same
🤣
Ok i might die now
rip

baremetal cloud is not their normal dedicated server line up
crying right now bro
Sounds like a personal problem
dont pull other people in your weird kinks smh
Ah yea true, just saw it says 24 hours guarantee on the email but still, was 2 and I'm a karen
did you order on sunday
you think this is a weird kink?
you haven't even seen my browsing history
Lets keep it that way 
man i opened my window for 2 minutes and its already fly metropolis in here
I got one of those fly zapper things last year
such a nice investment but I really gotta find a bit of a better bait
(and maybe a better way to hang it...)
cant really hang those in my room tho lol
I did lmfao
I get them in my room sometimes and its dark so they go to the monitor
so I put one on the UPS for a bit and I hear 1-2 pops a night
I like those electric tennis rackets a lot
Yeah I might get one of those
yeah got one at work cause we have bay doors and its the south
Yea, I just place it on a surface somewhere, not ideal but it's like, eer
they're like <€5
Hmm I could make a yo mama joke here
But I'll be nice and say thanks instead
opens laptop
My laptop: so anyway, update time
yep
just disable updates 
€5's still more than yo mama's worth 
I was gonna be nice and say $5 and hour
Man I'm too nice for this world
i thought about that one
then i was like nah that's not unique enough
and ew, spending time with something ded's touched
.wat
Ello, so I know this isn’t a paper related question but, does discordsrv take a lot of resources?
@cunning raft
Is he the creator of discordsrv?
yes
Ah
no
Was on a Saturday
ask in discordsrv's discord server
What is there discord?
brocc will defend u if they get angry
no i wont
he says that but he will
i like to keep 200 metres away from discordsrv at all times
he so modest 
❗ 🔥 sErVer RoOM on FIre
the very first thing anyone says when joining the support server lol
I used the 2nd build of 1.17 paper to keep my players on their toes. sometimes it crashes maybe sometimes no
they love restarting map every 3 hours
i can tell
brocc u changed bro
sorry sir too busy working now 😎


i am anti jroy
i remember when brocc used to be very ep*c
Your nick clearly states otherwise brocc.
jroy believers changed it
fire 
god forbid it was a useful error
wdym it says its on fire what else would u need
a fire extinguisher 
Your check will be in the mail
ñ
The spammer from yesterday was banned btw 
Did Spigot just die? Or Its only me?
it's not Christmas yet why you trna making me happy?
early adopter here 
Anyone knows a good way of getting all the minecraft assets rendered? Thank you, feel free to ping me
Could you elaborate on what you mean?
What's the intended use case here
I want to display them on an app, to list items and such, but the textures on the defualt RP are just the faces of the blocks, so I want to grab somewhere the assets but applied to the model
Basically that ^
That probably would do it, thank you a lot
No worries
The housing market is crazy right now, empty lots are selling for as much as nice homes were 12 months ago
At this rate the only way I'm getting property is if someone leaves it to me in their will
It's ok you can always marry someone who already owns a house 😉

btw apparently Amazon tossed their arbitration clause because there have been 75,000 arbitration demands from Echo users and under their own terms Amazon eats the costs for that
In court either each side pays their own or loser pays so if you're getting a lot of legal action it's cheaper to do it in court
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Interesting
Looks like Nintendo is shutting down the ability to buy stuff on the Japanese 3DS and Wii U eshops next year
And they already did in 2019 for Europe?
Remember when sony tried to do that
but nintendo probably gives 0 shits
The Wii eshop and all online services are gone so yeah, Nintendo gives 0 shits 😛
iirc you could actually still buy brand new games for the Wii after all that shut down even (Just Dance came out every year still)
The only reason Just Dance isn't still putting out yearly Wii releases is Nintendo stopped printing discs
pretty sure the last new 3/4 new Wii games are Just Dance, nothing else
I still seem to be able to add credit to the 3DS store in Europe
Either it was only for the UK or they backed off of it
Nah it was Europe too https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/1165974649248894976
As of September, there will be changes to payment methods using credit cards on #3DS and #WiiU #eShop.
Find out more here: https://t.co/EHH5hEMcAn
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I only buy physical anyways, so I don't really open it
you can stil charge it, just not directly with your credit card
Oh, you can add them to the Nintendo Network (what?) and use them on the 3DS eshop still
You can't use the credit card directly, just use it to add funds (basically a gift card) to your account
Which I guess is how the Switch works too? I don't really do online purchases for consoles
the Switch works on a proper Nintendo account
what 3DS and Wii have is really strange
No, I mean the gift card thing
I know it charges your card directly but I thought it made you add credit in $5 increments
It would just do so automatically for you if your account didn't have enough funds
I only used the Nintendo shop directly once, I can't remember how that went
For the 3DS you have to manually add funds to their top-level account system first
I've only done two things with the Switch store iirc: Sonic Mania and a gift card for a streamer to buy Pokemon
might be wrong, but other than adding credit, you can directly pay for whatever you want to pay with the exact price
They're in NI but originally from the US and that's where their bank and such is but Nintendo was throwing a fit about buying stuff from outside their region or something
But that's a whole different thing
Just ordering a physical game online is easier than using Nintendo's store
Yes
and also cheaper 😛
Especially when Amazon gives me a discount for preorders
Yeah, really no point in buying digital
especially when Nintendo doesn't do sales on their own games, or lower prices even after years
Also don't have to worry about storage that way
Instead I have a thing full of carts I can lose 😛
And a box full of boxes in the basement
lol
I'm never willing to do that with discs though, those have the stay in their original box
I think it's from using carts as a kid, we always either just left those out or put them in custom cases
And the boxes back then were impractical cardboard stuff you either just tossed out, lost, or got ruined
Fun thing about the 3DS store is that when signing in, the keyboard doesn't have all special characters, so you can end up with a password set via your pc that can't be entered on your 3DS. Was fun resetting that again back when I bought my 3DS.
Well, the cases for many games where oftne kinda chunky compared to the actual storage medium
Like, the DS carts, gba cards, PSP discs, etc
pfft, old school game boxes were the size of a dictionary
god those were horrible

extra physical items like game maps or similar were cool tho, I miss those kind of trinkets
Like, think most portables of that era had some random carry cases you could buy to store your games in that wasn't like carrying several dozen game cases around
ofc, that often meant that the original boxes often got thrown around and shit or lost
these still exist
I have one of those for my switch, it's where my games are 😛
yeah right, for 100€+ over the base game
it's called "founders editions" and they cost $300
yeah lol
iirc I have more games than it has slots now so they just get tossed in there wherever
I still keep them in their boxes, easier to store for me
I've been meaning to get a proper bookshelf so I can put all the boxes up and make them easy to access
Then just toss the ones I'm likely to want to play in the case when I take my switch somewhere
The big reason for that type of stuff was so that you could take your games with you without juggling several boxes or having to decide which ones you wanted to take with you, generally always forgetting s good one
Or just throw out all the old PS2 games and DVDs my uncle has on his TV stand and use those shelves 😄
Hasn't been a PS2 in this house for like 8 years
Sell them for 1.5M dollars /s
Kinda miss having a ps but emulations these days are really on par
Hell, we haven't had anything that can play DVDs for like 4 years and my uncle decided to start pretending he didn't know how anything more complicated than a transistor radio worked a few years before that so he never used it
He brings me the universal remote to turn the TV on for him because having to turn on a TV, cable box, and sound bar is too complicated
Tell me something more beautiful than the moment when the dvd logo bounces in the corner
Cable box is only still there because he pretends smart TVs are futuristic alien technology so won't figure out how to use streaming services
I printed https://xkcd.com/627/ and stuck it on the fridge
nice 
Alt text reminded me, he almost figured out how to print something the other day
But I don't really fault him there, printers are demonspawn
should translate this to dutch and hand it to my little sister 
printers are a scam, at least we're slowly getting to the point where I don't have to unnecessarily print, sign, and re-scan a bunch of sheets of paper
Oh god
My grandfather had s printer which he always plugged out when he was done with it
same
I forgot to unplug it once and so he did it and told me, basically, it runs a clean basically every day
Nothing like a printer which basically pisses out ink daily
my grandpa does the exact same lol
Youtube TV was the solution to getting my grandma to finally stop wasting money on cable
I got my mom YouTube Premium because I couldn't bear her constantly having to watch ads on her phone 
Should have just installed YouTube vanced
piracy bad!!!
oh ok then
They wish it was illegal so they could ban it cx
depends
there's better hosts out there, ovh is really only good if you take a dedicated server
and I'm still paying 50€ for 32gb ram and a i7 4470 or like that 😅
That's like 32€ at Hetzner. 
hetzner gang
Hetzner has for 40€ 64gb with an Ryzen 7 
I don't even think they have 32gb. I experienced yesterday that my host don't offer 32gb ram server anymore because it's not worth but I still have my
My Hetzner machine is still 64GB, but they only offer a 128GB version of it now.
hm, so someone made a pr that creates a merge conflict on master, how can i "pull" that pr and see the conflicts?
have you tried GOOGLING it DED?
IDRIZ!
🚶♂️
FORCE!
FACT!
BRO!
Is having 2 machines 64gb ram each 8 core
Better
Or 1 machine 8 core 16gb ram
you're not mentioning what cpu it is
core count means shit if you don't know what you're using
removes tests
force pushes with experimental commit
doesn't elaborate
fucking leaves
Ryzen 7
what ryzen 7
you're like saying "what car? volkswagen"
thank you
get the normal game-2
game-2-le is outdated they've got 5800x's now
Same price ?
no idea
considering you said shockbyte just get the game-1 and get over it
since i highly doubt you'd need a game-2
CPU > Ram.
you'd likely be fine with 1 machine and 64gb ram
Player number is expected to be high and we need more ram according to amount of server
1-3 proxies
1-2 lobby
2 survival server (60-100 player limit)
2 bedwars
2 arcade/minigames
your bedwars & minigames servers will be dead on day 1 because no one wants to play that so that's also fine
1 proxy is fine aslong as it's velocity
The owner (i am dev of that server not a owner)
Expects 1k+ player
a server that gets 1k+ players does not come in papermc asking for advice
80 players take it or leave it
bruh
it is what it is
1 machine is still fine
We have more players
my guy you're literally not getting nor fitting 1k players on the servers you've mentioned
*We would have
Total1k not per server
yes
have you ever seen a succesful server with 1k players that has both survival & minigames as gamemode
exactly no one has
I did. 
krusic KGBCraft doesn't count
Mfw waiting at the vaccination site in the company for 15min after my second shot is the first rest I got today
Lasted like 1 week.
Why are vacations so stressful?
although you're not wrong either cracked servers would probably be able to pull that shit off
I don't even have the car ready yet, it's still at the service center in repair 😂 😂
You know it bro.
Shotbow. 
dead
minez 
Also that based person that copied the whole map.
Tg network has 1k players
3 gamemodes
ok but that's cracked & indian
Indian server gets less players
I never played minez i don't think, but I know it from the dev logs on Reddit 😂
In Comparison to America
I think I'm still stuck in a place I shouldn't be in, no idea if they do resets.
All my coworkers (most I don't actually know) be staring at me cause am sitting here with my flip flops and big head phones just vibing
While they coming from office and going to go back to office after this
MineZ was awesome in the early days, when people were still friendly instead of killing you on-sight lol
I had one run where we had a group of like 20 people just roaming the world, that was fun
uwu
ur a smelly boi
go work
I wanna get gucci slides because my Polish friend had them while she was visiting and she looked cool
no
too bad !
it's prolly the 5G microship they implanted in me
"ship"
great c now i can't even spläll
one would think that chip comes with auto correct 👀
I am not asking would it reach 1k
I am asking would it handle 1k
@twin lagoon wanna go play on the gucci x roblox thingy with me? x

Wow the bezos launch is so cringe
They use mph and ft for speed and altitude
That alone shows they are no real engineers, smh
oof
One of this sticker
Kaas
Hallo?
Hi
what is the best way to extract the minecraft version from a server .jar?
i just want to see what others have come up with
and a way that works with a range of minecraft versions and server implementations
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/new-world-generation-java-available-testing experimental snapshot 2 has arrived.
i imagine reading the console for the line [17:06:57] [Server thread/INFO]: Starting minecraft server version <version> would be pretty universal
i don't imagine a custom server would ever remove that log entry
I think paper provides the server version in the MANIFEST.MF
that being said, the server will run as usual if it is missing - though stuff like /version will be bork
the hackiest way would be to hook into the process and yoink the version from the output
another way would be to create a plugin that gets that info and puts it somewhere
well i'm not going to just support paper with a tool i'm working on, it's a testing tool so it needs to be able to start servers, and it would be nice to know the minecraft version of the server
does the tool interact with the server itself?
@worn ember yea with Java just listen to the output stream of the process
it just starts a server process
err... input stream
he said hes not tho
yeah i'm not just supporting paper
it'll be a rather universal kinda thing, allowing you to quickly test development of servers/plugins
well you could just pack a jar with it and make it generate a plugin folder and copy it over
but then the server would have to run first beore you know its version
is the version a hardcoded string? or is dependant on fork?
tbh i think reading the process' output stream would be the easiest
.flags
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
it's an almost guarantee all the servers will have [17:06:57] [Server thread/INFO]: Starting minecraft server version 1.13.2 in the output, you think?
thats also how i did it for my custom server launcher
so i don't need to hook anything
and obfuscation wouldn't matter
unless there's a resource file that is present in vanilla that i could read
version.json
lol
I had 6 bottles of this really tasty orange soda, comes in glass bottles and uses real sugar. I drank 3 of them and told my uncle he could have one, went to grab one today and they're all gone 😦
your teeth thank him
@tulip inlet is that a file in the server .jar? seems like that would be client related
iirc Paperclip also has the Paper commit hash in it
I bet 1.8 doesn't have version.json 😛
If it does I bet 1.0 doesn't, how far back do you want to support?
oh my god is that the mbaxter?
@tulip inlet oh neat, i'd have to see how far back that goes, if it's not just a new file in 1.17
good question @magic river , when I initially thought of this project it would mainly support bukkit servers, but I guess your question is a good one to think about
support as far back as is convenient for you
aha my IRC client was not up to present, sorry for the necro ping mbaxter

id say 'thats wha you get for using irc" but it happens often in discord too xD
perhaps 1.7 since that was the last real bukkit release
I think this is a fairly common thing to happen
lol
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I see you're at least making good use of your free nitro month, amaranth
@mortal zinc, that begs the question: do you want to support people still using 1.7?
it just starts server processes though, so it's not like i can't support all the way back to 1.0, depends on the version extraction method, how far that can go back to in a reasonable way
could try one way, if it fails, switch over to legacy method or something
1.8 doesnt have version.json
i myself don't understand why anyone is using 1.7/1.8 still
does 1.9+ @tulip inlet ?
agentk 
michale 
yo
knenwald 
version.json is embedded within client.jar in .minecraft/versions/<version> or server.jar since 18w47b. It offers some basic information about the version's attributes.
well thereh you go
and i looked at what version that snapshot is for: 1.14
whomst i tag to get notable rank on disc?
@cosmic raft
speedrun
hi agent
yo
also holy shit @azure trout didn't know you still maintained dynmap after all these years
my face when that's where my searches led me when wanting a webmap for a modded runthrough
other decent option is bluemap I think
bluemap epic
now we need a communism redmap
bought you a coffee
oof i cant manage to break bedrock in my server even with all of the needed options turned on
Pl3xMap!
English: 💯
yes lol
.bedrock
Having problems with TNT Duping, Bedrock Breaking or Sand Duping Vanilla Exploits? See: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3854 for information.
nice english DED
its contagious


i turned it on
not sure if you're talking to me but its working in vallina but maybe im just very unlucky
paper bedrock wen

try it on spigot
it shouldnt work on spigot
and anyway my server is now paper so it doesnt matter
its for reproducability
they did but you can disable the patch
amm i dont have any spigot server to test it on
ig you can make a bug report for it if you're sure its not on your end and maybe someone will bother
but usually for exploits people tend to reee at you
yeah it is also an unsupported setting so like paper shouldn't help you with it
well if its broken, it should still be fixed lol
else not much point in having it at all
it is true
Is there a seed cracking protection feature in paper?
kinda
huh
Best you can do is randomize different feature seeds, but the list is sadly not complete.
Also use different seed for each world :)
i managed to break the bedrock, i dont know why but allowing the headless piston bug made it not work
There is a PR open to let you change the seed for every feature
whats a feature? like different foliage seeds and such?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
There is a list in https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/6121
specifically here https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/6121#issuecomment-876026629
thanqq
does paper skip ticks or is that just spigot?
spigot
kk I have heard before paper skips ticks
.xray
i always read his name as Stoner69






