general

[void void]

will it kill all the AXOLOTLS

[rich cove]

it will only disable the future spawning of any of them. if you want to kill the existing ones that stil remain, use /kill @e[type=axolotl]

[void void]

SOLD

[rich cove]

yes doge

[void void]

what did you just call me

[swift root]

????

[brave radish]

not important

[warm anchor]

Larry not important? this chikcen

[brave radish]

no not Larry

[swift root]

Then why ;-;

[potent fossil]

Hi Larry 🥺

[swift root]

Hi simple!

[potent fossil]

I read your letter to me daily

[rich cove]

wut

[brave radish]

debating if I should link it

[potent fossil]

Still on my wall, ofc.

[warm anchor]

simple get a frame

[potent fossil]

Donate one to me

[warm anchor]

ok ok ok you go pick one up of your liking and I will paypal you the cost (up to $50)

😉

[ocean delta]

Hi, Someone please help me fix my issues in my server. I am a beginner at this so please don't mind my questions.

Actually the problem in my server is that: i have 2 maps in my server. One is the main lobby where every body will spawn on server join. And my second map is a bed wars lobby. For my main lobby everything works fine but for my bed wars lobby i am having some issues. The issues are: when ever i fall out of the world or if i die in my bed wars lobby, i get spawn in my main lobby, which i don't want. I want to spawn it to my bed wars lobby. How do i do it?

I searched in the web for this issue but did not found any solutions. Someone please help me fix this issue.
Thankyou

[swift root]

Amazon's got rather nice 8x10 frames for so much less than that lmao

[swift root]

The solution is typically to run a different server for bedwars, and not keep them in two worlds on the same server

[ocean delta]

Thank you, how do i run different server for bed wars. Do i need to host differently and connect 2 hosting for it?

[warm anchor]

depend on your host

some allows you to haave mutiple server on it (bloomhost)

[brave radish]

You can run them on the same server if you don't have many players

[swift root]

^ usually to connect them you'll run a bungeecord or (better) velocity proxy

[warm anchor]

not for mini-game that's gonna be one hell of an inventory managment lol

[ocean delta]

i will only have 5 players

[warm anchor]

oh then no issue

[brave radish]

Yeah you don't really need two servers for that lol

When you count the proxy that would be a 3:5 server to player ratio

As for your problem, the solution would depend on what plugins you have loading the worlds

[warm anchor]

MV most likely

[brave radish]

By default, in vanilla, if you die in any dimension, you respawn in the overworld

[ocean delta]

my plugins

[formal knoll]

I remember a plugin called X-Ray which would let me X-ray but server side with protocollib

I can't find it for some reason now

[brave radish]

I mean, with bedwars, the players should respawn at their beds? So that seems like an issue with your bedwars plugin

[ocean delta]

no, like i dont have bedwars maps, plugin, having issues with my second lobby

[brave radish]

oh ok

tbh I don't remember how this works, but try using /setworldspawn in the lobby you want them to respawn in

[formal knoll]

anyone know the plugin?

[void void]

is this the gta support server?

[unkempt drift]

???

[void void]

i will take that as a yes

[unkempt drift]

I think @waxen panther’s dms are the GTA support server

[waxen panther]

NO

g*a is terrible

[ripe sphinx]

[void void]

@waxen panther can we do gunrunning trades in bunkers together?

[waxen panther]

you know jere?

[unkempt drift]

Wh* *r* *** t*pi*g l*ke *his

[void void]

friend of candice?

[unkempt drift]

Ok THAT didn’t work

[waxen panther]

idk who candice is

jere is a rjb kid i used to know

[void void]

@unkempt drift gotta type with

\*test\*

[ocean delta]

i set the world spawn of bedwars lobby, but whenever i die in my bedwars lobby, i get spawn in my main lobby

[void void]

what were they called

backslashes

[unkempt drift]

Wh* *r* *** t*pi*g l*ke *his

I knew that, I just forgot about it.

[brave radish]

ah you have a plugin called WorldSpawn apparently? That might be what's messing with world spawns 😛
It also appears to say in the chat it's sending to BedWards but idk

I was referring to the vanilla command /setworldspawn

[ocean delta]

so, any good plugin for spawn and respawn?

[warm anchor]

You will have to ask Kashike

he been playing GTA every night for a week now

(totally not stalking)

[unkempt drift]

Getting that RP fix

[ocean delta]

thanks

[ocean delta]

anyone who can help me

[true canyon]

Friendly advice: A listing of folders for plugins does not necessarily contain all plugins you have. Not all plugins create such a folder, and there could be plugins you removed but left the folder behind. 🙂

[brave radish]

hello mbax
do you have any more puns?

also Ramashwer you can just use vanilla's command

[ocean delta]

thanks

[ocean delta]

/setworldspawn this?

[brave radish]

yeah

but that plugin might replace that command with its own

I mean vanilla's

[true canyon]

Fresh out.

[ocean delta]

ok, i dissabled that plugin and will try your command, thanks, just a min, i will try

[brave radish]

Please say that by "disabled" you mean moved out of the plugins folder?

[ocean delta]

yes, removed the plugin folder and also jar file

[brave radish]

ok good

Things like PlugMan that claim to "disable" plugins break things a lot especially when re-enabling them

[ocean delta]

Thank, But did not worked, i removed the plugin folder and the jar file. and having same issues

[brave radish]

setworldspawn doesn't make them spawn in the right one?

[ocean delta]

like it works for the main lobby, but not for bedwars lobby

when i die in main lobby

i get spawn in the point

[brave radish]

did you run the command in the bedwars lobby?

[ocean delta]

yes, i did

[brave radish]

oh well idk then I thought that worked

[ocean delta]

Thanks, i think you did not got my issue properly, the issue is: when i die in my main lobby, i get spawn at the spawn point of my main lobby, but when i die in my bedwars lobby, i also get spawn in my main lobby, which i dont want, i want to get it spawn in my spawn point of my bedwars lobby

[brave radish]

no I got the issue

[rich cove]

Question

[brave radish]

I just apparently told you a fix that didn't work lol

[rich cove]

what is the reccommended minimum RAM that a basic Paper server should use?

or the average

(latest 1.17.1)

[brave radish]

minimum, assuming you're still on one player like you said earlier, I would say 2 without heavy plugins

[rich cove]

2 as in

MB or GB

[brave radish]

GB lol

2 MB would be scary

[rich cove]

not if minecraft was made in the 90's 🤣

but it isn't

[brave radish]

Minecraft allocates 2 MB in a second a lot of times

[golden gust]

We've seen it go muuuuch worse

[rich cove]

Also, do you help everyone for fun? You don't seem to have a role lol

everyone else has that blue role

[brave radish]

🤷‍♂️

[brave radish]

blue is the really cool people

tempted to throw an except cat in there or smth but I guess not

[rich cove]

well, that does make sense

[unkempt drift]

Nah, blue role is the worst.

[rich cove]

cat can't be a cool person if it's over 80 degrees F outside

[unkempt drift]

Whatever color I have. That’s the best one

Aqua?

[brave radish]

I think that's a green

let's ask the internet

[rich cove]

cyan

if you've played minecraft it's easy to tell that's cyan 😳

[unkempt drift]

Red are the “secret police” of the server.

[rich cove]

cyan dye!!1

[ocean delta]

anyone who can really help me

[brave radish]

16,79,78 RGB

[rich cove]

that's too dev for me

[brave radish]

throw it in #paper-help if you don't want it to be covered 😉

[ocean delta]

okie

[rich cove]

besides that, based on my name i only see the Red in RGB

that's 16 0 0

also why do zombies look red

[waxen panther]

broccoli role 😎

[rich cove]

you guys don't amount to nothin if there's not a big chungus role

sus

[brave radish]

<@&781015724310659089> would work for celery too

and celery is better

[warm anchor]

wow

can I be green too does green role give you internal channel @waxen panther

[waxen panther]

no

[golden gust]

no

[warm anchor]

it will be #nutrition-science but for vegan

[brave radish]

yes vegetbal has admin perms

[warm anchor]

[waxen panther]

it should give me admin tbh

[golden gust]

it's bad enough he's in here

[warm anchor]

LOL

[brave radish]

broc hides it but I know it's true

[waxen panther]

u love me

[rich cove]

nah

[warm anchor]

I am convinced the more zzzcat shit on you, the more he likes you

[rich cove]

where's the carnivore mods

🙄 smh

[brave radish]

nah only for some people

[ocean delta]

how do i remove all /setworldspawn ?

[warm anchor]

set them to the seed's spawn?

[rich cove]

what if you don't remember the seed's spawn 😳

[warm anchor]

ugh it's in the file...

[rich cove]

it is?

😱 omg???

[warm anchor]

should be

[rich cove]

ok but where doe

this is undiscovered territor i

for mi

[brave radish]

or just gen a new world with it if it isn't

[warm anchor]

big brain

[brave radish]

prob level.dat if it's there at all

[rich cove]

oh

[warm anchor]

it should be zombie

[rich cove]

yeah isn't level.dat filled with strange characters

i think

[brave radish]

I know that's where the world spawn is, just dunno if the original is

[rich cove]

similar to a zip file's encode

[brave radish]

well yeah cuz it's not actually text lol

[warm anchor]

you can look up the seed

and just set the world spawn to that location

[brave radish]

brb setting spawnpoint to my seed cuz CEO of Oracle PR told me to

[rich cove]

/effect give ZombieChickenMan888 nausea 100 3

[warm anchor]

that wont work

coz chicken is on latest client so he can turn the effect to just showing an off green

[rich cove]

😢

[warm anchor]

CHECKMATE 1.8 user!

[rich cove]

shut up 1.17 user 😤 !!11

/effect give EterNity wither 99 255

[viscid wedge]

1.8 moment

just update 4head

[rich cove]

also /effect give doesn't work in 1.8 since the "give" wasn't added yet 🤯

[rich cove]

no update, only downdate 😎 no phone pretend 1990 !

[viscid wedge]

good

public internet access was a mistake

[rich cove]

yes it was i go back to monke

[warm anchor]

how do you go back to monke if already one

[untold copper]

oh

burnT

[rich cove]

but monkeys arent burnt that is just raceist stereotype 😤 !
monkey is having fur!

we have only the thin hair

[viscid wedge]

bruh why is my monkey webm labelled as explicit media

fucking discord

[rich cove]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-moment-moment-monke-moment-monkey-monki-gif-18818008

[viscid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-hmm-thinking-observing-gif-10240947

[brave radish]

and I already did

[rich cove]

you might be able to do that...

but...

you cannot escape this!!!

[brave radish]

/tp @s ~ ~5 ~

[rich cove]

i did not op you stop buying hacks 😢

[viscid wedge]

press escape key

Click disconnect

problem solved

[rich cove]

that only solves the problem temporarily
once you go back on

you are still trapped

[warm anchor]

who say we logging back in?

[viscid wedge]

fuck em

[brave radish]

it's 1.8. I don't need op to teleport.

[viscid wedge]

we out here running the tuinity jar

[viscid wedge]

TRUE

this is a certified movement check moment

[brave radish]

oh wow it's 12:30 ok 5 4 3 2 1 ded

[rich cove]

it's 1.8 i don't need op to teleport

[viscid wedge]

Fische

disconnection

[void void]

i do not enjoy it when my parents are arguing, it is not very "poggers" as the cool kids call it nowadays

[rich cove]

cringe

you escaped noo

[viscid wedge]

I legit know nothing about Minecraft gameplay past fucking uhhhhh 1.10

I only log in to administrate

[void void]

hey, soup

[viscid wedge]

what up

[void void]

can we linux together

[viscid wedge]

sure

[void void]

hot

[rich cove]

ok then you obviously know bone blocks since that was the last addition ever until 1.11

[viscid wedge]

what distro you runnin bb

[void void]

dual booting windows with.. well

debian

[rich cove]

besides polar bears

[viscid wedge]

Respectable

[void void]

you?

[viscid wedge]

A combination of RHEL, Alpine, Fedora, and Slackware

Across several machines

[void void]

havent tried or heard about RHEL, alpine and fedora are nice, heard slackware is alright, that being said

HOT

[viscid wedge]

You haven't heard of Red Hat Enterprise Linux?

[void void]

ohh, im stupid

[viscid wedge]

Slackware is godawful, but it's so unbelievably slim it fits the bill for microservices

It's like if LFS was binary

[void void]

oh

wait that actually seems odd

sounds*

[viscid wedge]

The package manager has no dependency resolution by design

[arctic sedge]

Hi, this new dupe is patched in paper 1.17.1?

[waxen panther]

yes

[void void]

soup, /g/ told me to install gentoo
is that actually good advice?

[viscid wedge]

Well, it depends. Gentoo's niche is a very specific group of people who want absolute customization. If you don't know why you'd need it, you don't need it.

[void void]

but the funny people on g told me to install it

[viscid wedge]

It's probably the only distribution where certain very strange configurations such as statically linking everything against libressl or raw alsa and zero pulse/pipewire are possible, but the drawback to that is that binaries literally don't exist for 90% of the packages

[void void]

bee r b

[viscid wedge]

You shouldn't really take /g/'s advice on most things, half of the users don't know what they're talking about, a quarter are underage, and then the remaining group may be competent but will probably just troll you for not meeting their standards

[warm anchor]

a quarter are underage and the other half are just manchild

[viscid wedge]

the other 3/4

but yeah lmao

Also holy hell you share a lot of servers with me

[rich cove]

what is /g/

like gpack? gsit?

[viscid wedge]

It's a board on 4chan. Nothing good happens there, stay away.

[rich cove]

oh, ok

Also how can you teleport without op on 1.8?

[rich cove]

reference

[warm anchor]

I am in every MC server 😉

[rich cove]

ok so did you join papermc's server?

[warm anchor]

[rich cove]

Well, did you?

[viscid wedge]

And several Hololive ones

That I steal emotes from

[warm anchor]

[rich cove]

Who is using Java 1.8 with PAPER?

not the mc version the java version 😳

[vernal moth]

Old servers

[rich cove]

hmmm

Pssst.... what's with that sudden drop between 10/12 and 10/18 2020?

[vernal moth]

Bstats had an issue

[rich cove]

sus

[cedar zenith]

[formal knoll]

I used to like a month ago, it makes sense since some plugins rely on removed stuff on java 11

mine got an update, so I'm fine

[rich cove]

btw what would happen if someone combined paper and fabric? 😂

[formal knoll]

yeah that's exactly what I want

cardboard is a thing but it sucks

[rich cove]

would it be chaos, or would it be chill? hmm

LOL CARDBOARD

I GET IT PAPER BUT WITH EXTRA LAYERS OF FABRIC

haha funny! stronger paper!

anyways time to update my plugins brb

[vernal moth]

Everybody who attempted that has created a unmaintainable mess

Bukkit is undamentally incompatible with mods

[wispy blade]

morning

[minor badge]

helloo

[waxen panther]

@minor badge MORNING

[wispy blade]

hey bromc

[nocturne agate]

heyo

[rich cove]

why are you always screaming @void void

pls stahp

o.o

[void void]

good things can come out of it though
almost forgot 2 brush teeth once at like 4am and saw a threat about toothbrushes and that reminded me before going to sleep

[rich cove]

i haven't brushed in months AHHH

[void void]

several existential crises

[rich cove]

very sad

[void void]

Hello can anyone help me my setspawn command isnt working it spawn's to a random area

[wispy blade]

i think you're looking for /spawnpoint or /setworldspawn

[void void]

yes

it doesnt work

[limber knot]

Follow the guide for how to update to Java 16 here: https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[wispy blade]

"doesn't work" tells me nothing

[full musk]

Can i merge my paper server with another paper server?

[waxen panther]

wat

[vestal jasper]

brocc can we 🥺 merge our paper servers

[waxen panther]

😳

[full musk]

Can i merge it or not?

[lean kiln]

wat

[full musk]

Can i merge my paper server with another paper server?

@lean kiln

[wispy blade]

you mean smush them both together?

or connect to both from the same ip?

[full musk]

This

[wispy blade]

use a proxy

[rich cove]

who are you

[wispy blade]

someone ran the command then deleted their message

[full musk]

A bot xd

[rich cove]

suspciious...

[wispy blade]

you can check the IRC logs

[rich cove]

yes to merge 2 paper servers together to connect to the other from one of them

[wispy blade]

https://korobi.vq.lc/network/esper/channel/paper/logs/tail/30/

[rich cove]

You must get something like BungeeCord, Waterfall, Travertine, or

Velocity

[full musk]

No i mean to merge only the ram

[queen tusk]

🤨

[rich cove]

idk, cut the ram size in half for both? XD

[queen tusk]

Just… delete/turn off the other server and allocate the ram to the other one?

[rich cove]

Or if you want both for both worlds

[full musk]

No but i use an hosting

[queen tusk]

Then you should ask them

Each host’s policy is different

[full musk]

Thats illegal

[rich cove]

wat

[queen tusk]

… what?

[wispy blade]

if you use a host and you want multiple servers: get more servers from your host

it's really that simple

[queen tusk]

I think he has 2 and wants to fuse them

[rich cove]

if your host says feedback is illegal then the host provider you are using is worrying

[full musk]

I use an free host

Aternos

[queen tusk]

Nothing you can do then

[potent fossil]

for those of you using online checking accts (US) what bank you usin? ever since simple (the bank, not me) closed im not sure what i wanna use

[queen tusk]

They limit ram for a reason, they’re not going to fuse servers for you

[rich cove]

if you want to merge both worlds you can get Multiverse-Core

and copy the other server's world into the one you want to merge

[queen tusk]

That has nothing to do with ram

[ocean delta]

what are this called, where i can click and go to game and also shows stats in up in its head?

[wispy blade]

usually citizens and placeholder api

[ocean delta]

citizens plugin ask for buying it, but provide its source code, now how do i convert it to jar?

[twin lagoon]

buy it

or compile it yourself, asking for help here is a dickmove

it takes minimal effort to find out how to compile it

[unkempt drift]

Wait, doesn’t citizens provide a free jar anyways?

[untold copper]

it does

[twin lagoon]

actually yeah pretty sure it provides it on their CI

[unkempt drift]

But in general, asking how to get someone’s paid resource for free is a bad move.

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

[neat oyster]

i found a big brain idea BED instead of tnt a player will spam psiton other will click bed BOOOM
to break bedrock
i need to know will this work
or am i dumb
as bed is cheaper

will this wok

*work

[vernal moth]

somebody know how I can remove these spacings here?

https://i.imgur.com/P9GVmJA.png

every | is a span

https://i.imgur.com/V704XX6.png

[ashen cliff]

Very efficient.

[twin lagoon]

BRO!

[half pewter]

whatcha tryna do

[minor badge]

remove whitespace between the spans

[twin lagoon]

mari pog?

[half pewter]

try padding:0?

[minor badge]

that won't work, it's a margin added due to the split of spans

[half pewter]

then margin-left:0 etc?

[minor badge]

<span>a</span><span>B</span> is rendered differently from <span>a</> <span>B</>

needs to be a negative margin but that varies on font size and font itself lol

[half pewter]

lol

[minor badge]

so removing whitespace is the correct solution here, regardless of how ugly it is

[void void]

TIL

[half pewter]

TIL?

[void void]

tldr fuck web dev lol

[half pewter]

lol

[void void]

i lose braincells every time

[minor badge]

spans are fucking ugly and stupid but that's all html really

[half pewter]

you must use span?

theres font and other thingys too and u can use display n stuff

[minor badge]

it's ironically also the only correct tag afaik

divs aren't meant to be inlined, and paragraphs aren't at all meant to do this either

[half pewter]

and <font>?

[void void]

not html5 iirc

[half pewter]

also theoretically you can put anything cuz its just telling the browser which default thing to use (almost)

tagname
.classname
#idname

[potent fossil]

span is the correct element for inline items; the fact that whitespace has to be removed for proper display is tho

[minor badge]

<font> was indeed removed in html5

and it's about being idiomatic; spans are meant for this

[half pewter]

exists for me so maybe chrome just doing backwards compat for me

ok

[minor badge]

oh yeah browsers definitely support it, it's just not in the spec so you can't complain if it gets nuked

[half pewter]

brr

[vernal moth]

open for a better solution? 😄

and sorry guys, didn't read anything

https://i.imgur.com/74stzkM.png

ended up ripping a font

since minecraft isn't actually monospace

[half pewter]

lol

[ashen cliff]

JS bro!

[half pewter]

chillax

[vernal moth]

how would JS allow me to color individual chars?

[half pewter]

you can do each char in js

but ye

[vernal moth]

how?

[half pewter]

for loop a split('')

[vernal moth]

I still need a html element tho?

[half pewter]

a string

[vernal moth]

you can only apply styling to a html element

[half pewter]

ah ye

[vernal moth]

https://streamable.com/bcw3va

[half pewter]

else you can do absolute then use top: left: with exact pixels

pog

[vernal moth]

and this isn't even written in javascript

[half pewter]

some fonts can be js/css so 😎

aha

[vernal moth]

not a single line of javascript

[half pewter]

css is powerful i heard tho 😎

[vernal moth]

who needs javascript when you can shit out 5700 lines of kotlin 😄

https://i.imgur.com/VTuqpyi.png

[half pewter]

lol

big brain

[vernal moth]

guess am doing hovers next

[half pewter]

lol

[vernal moth]

honestly kotlin/js is so cool

even got hot reload

I save a class and my browser reloads the generated js

[half pewter]

ah yes

[void void]

anybody knows what this block is called? i block and am having trouble finding it

[vernal moth]

block

shows scoreboard

oh you mean the dum pillar thing?

[void void]

yes

[vernal moth]

its quartz

[void void]

thanks i got a hint

[vernal moth]

fuck I remember why I skipped hover

https://i.imgur.com/tfSdzzC.png

[half pewter]

not js :((

[vernal moth]

that is kotlin

which is worse

[half pewter]

yes

make in js

ez pz

[vernal moth]

if you gonna rewrite my java code into js, sure

https://i.imgur.com/UvLrsMo.png

I used kotlin because java -> kotlin is easy

and kotlin -> js is free

[half pewter]

ok so whatcha tryna do

sum hover thing

[vernal moth]

am creating a web viewer for minimessage

[half pewter]

oh ur plugin

[vernal moth]

its not a plugin

[ancient bolt]

Coulda just used GWT ya know

It's terrible and disgusting but if all you wanna do is run some Java code in the browser... It'll do that

[vernal moth]

I am burned on GWT

and this is just a research project on kotlin/js

[green turret]

If I wanted to have events for both before something happens (perhaps making it cancellable) and after it has happened, what kind of naming convention should I use (oooh, subjective)? Microsoft seem to advise against using "Pre" and "Post" prefixes in .NET and instead opt for present and past tense, so e.g. PluginReloadingEvent and PluginReloadedEvent rather that PluginPreReloadEvent and PluginPostReloadEvent. Thoughts?

[vernal moth]

really in love with kotlin btw

https://i.imgur.com/f3iKxP3.png

[half pewter]

lol

[ancient bolt]

I mean, it's true

Deref the variable once problem solved

[green turret]

If you have evil threads.

[ancient bolt]

hoverEvent?.let { event -> ...

[green turret]

That's how it begins. The chaining...

[half pewter]

js easier cause it fixes most of that stuff but yee

[vernal moth]

ah thanks

JS doesnt fix anything here

JS ignores the problem by not having types 😂

[half pewter]

Yeee

[void void]

having types at first place is the issue!!

[half pewter]

well

better performance

[void void]

are you reading hoverEvent from some object?

if it's not local variable then it'll do that yes

as the compiler indeed cannot make sure that getter/field does not change at the meantime

[vernal moth]

denwav let thing solved it

[void void]

or that, yep

[ancient bolt]

It's it's a local variable, if it's an immutable property, if it's a nonnull property, are all the cases a smart cast would work

[half pewter]

🧠

[void void]

yea

how do i issue some command on clicking on citizens?

my rough guess is that this is coming from adventure api directly, where kotlin won't be able to infer whether getter is immutable or not

[ancient bolt]

No he converted all of the java code to kotlin

[vernal moth]

and stubbed out adventure

[void void]

i c

I've reached out on the CoreProtect Discord already but thought it's worth asking here in case someone's run into the same issue

I tried to rollback an area on my server and it resulted in a server crash and anytime I go near the affected chunks it re-crashes. I'm not 100% sure what's happened exactly but there was a guardian farm in the area and I'm wondering if it's tried to rollback all guardian deaths or something bizarre

Completely unrelated to Paper but thought it's worth asking

Console spam is here: https://pastebin.com/sFiknZ5V

[vernal moth]

https://streamable.com/44vo5q

its beautiful

including multi line https://i.imgur.com/n1qoH9q.png

[viral hornet]

Wot

Is that

[uncut moss]

minimessage

[viral hornet]

yes no shit

[uncut moss]

yes

[vernal moth]

u like it camm?

[viral hornet]

I do

[vernal moth]

I do too!

[viral hornet]

would be very handy to use over parsing stuff in-game or just configuring blindly

[vernal moth]

even tho its kotlin 😄

[viral hornet]

lmao

is this CursedMessage? 😂

[vernal moth]

yes

[heady spear]

Noxite had a very specific vision for this so I bet Kezz will have to spend a lot of time tweaking it 😛

[viral hornet]

For a minimessage parser?

[vernal moth]

for the frontend

am doing the tech and call it done and somebody else can make it pretty 😂

[viral hornet]

I mean you're a devloper mini, not a designer lmao

[ancient bolt]

Also he's German

[viral hornet]

savage

but true

[heady spear]

It’s not so much about the pretty as it is about the functionality :p

I forced minimessage on all our designers and now they’re unable to preview stuff and they’re malding

[vernal moth]

well, to be fair

[ancient bolt]

Not for long

[vernal moth]

this is something I wanted to do for a long time

[ancient bolt]

Converting to kotlin was pretty clever

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/pmyoW0D.png

this is the backstory

[heady spear]

I don’t him to ask specifically so people on our team could get paid to contribute 😛

[half pewter]

good england

[heady spear]

Now we also get paid to work on cloud and interfaces 🙂

[lean kiln]

I don't get paid to work on cloud

[heady spear]

😦

[half pewter]

same m8

[vernal moth]

ah yes

https://i.imgur.com/pu0QCj2.png

fuck

ill call that a design issue

[viral hornet]

lmfao damn

they really were specific https://i.imgur.com/NA4NyNP.png

[heady spear]

It makes sense 🙂

[viral hornet]

kinda

input on the right with preview on the left feels strange lol

[wispy blade]

true

[viral hornet]

although I have seen that more and more lately, but I do hope it's not becoming the new norm

[heady spear]

I think that was mostly to highlight how you enter text more so than the placement :p

[prime pawn]

Do you think it would be cool if players could create their own crates where they must supply the contents and they define the chances themselves (which should easily be viewable by all players) 😄 but you'd need limitations like the player can't create more keys than what is earnable in the crate (example, 16 dirt, 16 grass, 1 diamond and 2 emeralds being in the crate, rewards are 16 dirt, 16 grass, 1 diamond or 1 emerald, meaning a max of 5 keys for that crate is made until more items are added. Once an item has been added to the crate, it can't be removed and will auto remove when there's 0 stock). What do you think?

[vernal moth]

does somebody know the chat dimensions?

[prime pawn]

Aren't they configurable?

I know they are in Optifine, I will check for vanilla

[heady spear]

he's asking for the default dimensions

if people change their chat box size and things look ugly then that's on them and they should feel bad

[prime pawn]

True

320px I noticed was one of the dimensions, will check the other

Man, Minecraft is weird. Takes forever to download an update that's 90mb yet my download speed should be giving me like 110mb a sec lmao

[vernal moth]

getting this exact will be a PITA anyways cause idk how good my font it

[prime pawn]

Well, there's always GUI scale as well..

Well apparently it's 180px by 320px in Chat Settings by default

Those values do not change based on the gui scale

[heady spear]

@viral hornet why does paper'

[viral hornet]

Why does paper's config have to change where values are*

I understand new shit being added, but man, https://i.imgur.com/1NCRh7f.png

[vernal moth]

blame bukkits yaml parser

[prime pawn]

You remind me of my grandfather, when he gets cranky because the shops change stuff around 😂

[vernal moth]

it uses a hashmap, order is all over the place thanks to that

[plucky sparrow]

#adorable-pets > #adorable-doggos

[viral hornet]

Ah okay

Cheers bukkit

[void void]

why does it tells this

i am not being able to delete it

[ashen cliff]

Did you forget to stop the server?

[void void]

oh yea, sorry

[viral hornet]

@ashen cliff

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/CtRjAgP.png

think am done 😄

[wispy blade]

nice

[ashen cliff]

Bro!

[wispy blade]

Bro!

can you send me the latest version of KGBTuinity

[viral hornet]

Nice stuff Mini

[marble lark]

curious question is there a way to modify the mappings conversion process while you're building a Paper fork and adding your own names in

I'm sorta screwing around rn and thought it would be funny to do that

[vernal moth]

not sure if we exposed the file to forks

I think we did

[marble lark]

which file is that?

[vernal moth]

lets not post dum memes

[vernal moth]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/build-data/mappings-patch.tiny

would need to look how you can set that up for forks

I am somewhat sure forks can set that

[marble lark]

ah I see

[heady tendon]

hmmm

[vernal moth]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/build.gradle.kts#L88

this is what we do fork paper

idk how to do it for forks/patcher

[lean kiln]

to modify the mappings patch in a fork is more involved

[marble lark]

Unfortunately I don't know enough about Kotlin to screw around with Paperweight haha

[lean kiln]

pretty sure paperweight would need changes for it, wouldn't be too hard tho

would just need to merge all the mappings patches

[marble lark]

I do know it has something to do with the usePaperUpstream and withPaperPatches methods that the default Example calls but Kotlin syntax is confusing af lmao

[ashen cliff]

No.

[marble lark]

at this rate I'm convinced that the Paper team sleeps even less than I do, and that says a lot considering I have severe insomnia

700 or so patches with a remapped source

jesus

[vernal moth]

kek how do I do an anonymous class in kotlin?

its not a functional interface, it has 3 methods

oh object :

[lean kiln]

y

e

[void void]

is it possible to make a plugin in python for paper 1.17 server?

[marble lark]

um

well if someone made a python interpreter just for the sake of paper plugins I guess so

but that's a lot of work just to support a different language

[vernal moth]

ppl have, yes

scriptcraft

[marble lark]

hats off to them mfg

[vernal moth]

but grakkit for js is much easier to use

[marble lark]

Kotlin syntax is essentially a big f*ck you yeah

also hold up were all the patches also remapped by Paperweight or were each of them handwritten to prevent conflicts

[vernal moth]

all automatically rewrtitten and manually fixed

[marble lark]

oh mix of both

Would've lost my f*cking mind if they were all manually fixed

[vernal moth]

we did that once or twice

back when we initially worked on papermcp

I think Z did most of that manual work

https://i.imgur.com/IKW6vwb.png

IJ be like

[marble lark]

is he/she still alive

[lean kiln]

yes

[marble lark]

how is that even possible

[vernal moth]

paper had way less patches back then

[marble lark]

oh

[void void]

hi

[marble lark]

hellos

[void void]

yo

i got banned on purpur for saying “gae”

[marble lark]

that is a metric ton of reserved files containing even more mappings for some reason

weird

[ashen cliff]

We need ALL the mappings.

[marble lark]

wouldn't the Mojang ones be enough

[vernal moth]

paperweight also builds spigot

and its way more complicated then you think

[lean kiln]

mojang's also don't include parameter mappings

[marble lark]

bruh moment

releasing mappings without parameters

[lean kiln]

proguard doesn't log them

[vernal moth]

https://minidigger.github.io/CursedMessage/

[mossy vessel]

https://i.imgur.com/TkOPUOi.png works good so far 👍

[vernal moth]

yeah the whole chat box sizing needs work

[mossy vessel]

pft, that's a fancy feature

[vernal moth]

why does this output numbers
https://i.imgur.com/mt2yLGM.png
and this outputs the random chars I want?

https://i.imgur.com/ZCDbTlE.png

I want to replace every char but space with a random one

[marble lark]

smh Kotlin

jk

[vernal moth]

Not by choice ^^

[void void]

ewww kotlin it's so damn unbearable

mini how could you smfh

[vernal moth]

I wanna understand why this doesn't work tho

[marble lark]

well still not as bad as Dynamic Languages

wait is Kotlin dynamic

[vernal moth]

Mikro I auto converted MiniMessage to kotlin to be able to compile it to JS ^^

[void void]

i'm aware i'm just shitting

can you give me example string?

[vernal moth]

Aaaaaaaaaaa

Lol

[void void]

and copy me the code...

[vernal moth]

Any string

[void void]

unless you're not behind the computer anymore

[vernal moth]

https://github.com/MiniDigger/CursedMessage/blob/main/src/main/kotlin/main.kt#L40

[void void]

alr let's see

[vernal moth]

Can Gradlew runBrowserDev --continious or whatever

Then enter <obf>test test

[void void]

convenient

[vernal moth]

Am in the kitchen rn

browserDevelopmentRun --continuous

[void void]

this will be my 2nd time when i touch kotlin/js in my life

[vernal moth]

this is my first

[void void]

i hope this time the experience is a lot better

[vernal moth]

It seems to be really nice

[marble lark]

lel

[marble lark]

It's been like an hour since I've tried finding Paperweight's Entry Point

[void void]

🤔 i thought you'll always try obfuscating original string

[marble lark]

goddamnit Kotlin

[marble lark]

the hell do those curly brackets next to what I assume to be a call to the method named "map" mean

[heady spear]

it's a lambda body

When a lambda is the last parameter in a function you can move it outside of the parenthesis

so

map({ allowedChars.random() })

and

map { allowedChars.random() }

are equivalent

[void void]

even more explicit: map({ it -> allowedChars.random() })

thonk

i added if (input[it] != ' ') ...

[heady spear]

ah ye, if you only have one lambda parameter then it will be generated for you, so you can reference it without specifying it as a lambda parameter :'') all of these features make kotlin fucking litty for writing DSLs

oh i c

[vernal moth]

Mikro what I wanna do is not obfuscate spaces

The code in the repo is working fine

[vernal moth]

The ignore spaces is a feature I wanna add

[void void]

let's go

[vernal moth]

What did you do?

[void void]

nothing different pretty much

[vernal moth]

But isn't that what I had too?

[half pewter]

lol

[vernal moth]

Urg

[void void]

works on my machine ™️

[vernal moth]

I'll try again after lunch

[void void]

uh oh that toCharArray & map does not work that well...

it seems to convert chars to ints and then join their string values

e.g aaa = [111, 111, 111] -> 111111111

lol

anyway there we go

fun obfuscate(input: String): String {
    val allowedChars = ('A'..'Z') + ('a'..'z') + ('0'..'9')
    val arr = input.toCharArray()
    for ((idx, c) in arr.withIndex()) {
        if (c != ' ') {
            arr[idx] = allowedChars.random()
        }
    }
    return arr.concatToString()
}

even better

fun CharArray.map(transform: (Char) -> Char): CharArray {
    for (i in this.indices) {
        this[i] = transform(this[i])
    }
    return this
}

fun obfuscate(input: String): String {
    val allowedChars = ('A'..'Z') + ('a'..'z') + ('0'..'9')

    return input.toCharArray()
        .map { if (it != ' ') allowedChars.random() else it }
        .concatToString()
}

[vernal moth]

I still dont get it

but whatever 😄

thanks

wanna PR or should I just copy in?

[void void]

i did pr

[vernal moth]

ty

[void void]

maybe you didn't check the output?

like

maybe it was outputting numbers rapidly

i missed that at first place as well

[vernal moth]

pretty sure I did

now I only need to harass nox ppl in fixing the UI 😄

[void void]

btw you might want to wire obf func to window.requestAnimationFrame

if you're not doing that already

requestAnimationFrame() calls are paused in most browsers when running in background tabs or hidden <iframe>s in order to improve performance and battery life.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/window/requestAnimationFrame

I have like 5 bedwars map and a npc citizen and if i click the citixen, i get into a bedwars map, now my question is how do i randomize my map? like whenever i click the statue, i will spawn me to a random bedwars map

please

help me, no solutions in google were found

you need to start writing a plugin now

[full rune]

[void void]

why?

[full rune]

how else would you add that functionality?

[void void]

because if solution does not exist, you need to create one by yourself

or find somebody who can do this for you for little money

i dont have any money, i am a student

that's your problem

[full rune]

then you need to create it by yourself

[void void]

isnt there a pluggin available?

you did the research, only you can answer to that at the moment

[full rune]

if you use citizens, you can bind more commands to a npc and then launch random ones on click with /npc command random

[void void]

there we go

.g citizens2 wiki

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://wiki.citizensnpcs.co/Citizens_Wiki

[full rune]

page npc commands, under execution order

[haughty bear]

on the paper github page, maybe it's a good idea to add "specify java 16 in gradle" or something to that effect, on the setup part? I see a lot of people failing to build with:

Could not resolve io.papermc.paper:paper-api:1.17.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.
Required by:
    project :

Possible solution:
 - Declare repository providing the artifact, see the documentation at https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/declaring_repositories.html

and it's due to them not specifying java 16 in the java configuration

[minor badge]

updating to java 16 isn't necessary either, though. ```kotlin
configure<JavaPluginExtension> {
disableAutoTargetJvm()
}

or something along the lines...

[haughty bear]

sure, but at least a note about this issue would be nice, since it's so common

[mossy vessel]

Unfortunately gradle truncates a lot of stacktraces

[void void]

like i have add 2 commands on click for that statue, when i click the statue it is not spawning me to random map

i also have used the command /npc command random

[ashen cliff]

You do know, you can open chat to unlock the mouse right?

[gentle flume]

Hello i have a problem my server use 10 GB ram with 4 players

on papermc 1.17.1

[potent fossil]

are you using aikar's flags

[viral hornet]

They cross posted

Please only post in one channel @gentle flume

[potent fossil]

Of course

[gentle flume]

what flag?

no flags

[potent fossil]

How do you start your server

[gentle flume]

java -Xms128M -Xmx10240M -jar server.jar

[potent fossil]

Well, yea, you told it that it can use 10 gigs. So if it ends up allocating that much (minecraft can and will), then java will hold onto it

[gentle flume]

How if it happens that it takes 1.5 - 3 GB?

[potent fossil]

wat

[gentle flume]

and sometimes there are such strange jumps

[potent fossil]

.optimize

[limber knot]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/

additional tips for improving server performance - https://www.spigotmc.org/posts/3684550

[potent fossil]

Follow that entire guide

Will net better performance, but the tradeoff is more ram usage

tradeoff

tf is wrong with me

can't speak english, too tired; will sleep now bai

[gentle flume]

I did not have this problem on lower versions only from 1.17

[vernal moth]

added a readme, Ill call this project done https://github.com/MiniDigger/MiniMessageViewer

[potent fossil]

Idk, we would need to see timings and spark reports and stuff if you wanted to make a bug report but I don't think anything changed that drastically. But others prob know more than me

[marble lark]

Hey quick question the order of events in Paperweight goes this way right?
Download and Decompile Vanilla JAR -> Apply CraftBukkit Patch Patches (Bruh) -> Apply CraftBukkit Patches -> Apply Paper's Patches -> Apply the access transformers and manual patchwork that Paperweight can't handle automatically -> Map To Mojang Names -> Done

[quasi valley]

no

[marble lark]

rip

what's the general flow of events?

Figured that since I can't find the entry point of Paperweight it would be easier to track the patch flow

[vernal moth]

you forgot a ton of other remapping steps and the creation of said mappings etc

also, first mapping to mojang, then paper patches

since our patches are in mojang mappings

[marble lark]

Hey I didn't make Paperweight haha

which steps did I mix up

[quasi valley]

he just told you

also, we definitely don't apply CraftBukkit patches twice

[marble lark]

tbh wouldn't it be easier to leave them as is and then do Mojang Mappings afterwards so you don't have to go over 700+ patches

[marble lark]

oops

[quasi valley]

wat

[potent fossil]

mega wat

[marble lark]

nothing

[potent fossil]

kneny no giga wat?

[marble lark]

funnee

[quasi valley]

didn't see it fast enough

[viral hornet]

runtime mappings when ?

[vernal moth]

then everything would be usless?

we wanna have patches in mojmap so they are actually readable

[marble lark]

oh right

[vernal moth]

else we couldn't work in mojmap

[marble lark]

my brain quit on me for a second there

rip

[vernal moth]

like, the whole idea of paperweight is to have patches in mojmap

the one time going over the patches is irrelevant

[marble lark]

I thought it was to make NMS easier lel

[vernal moth]

it was done in 4 days

[marble lark]

are you f*cking serious it only took 4 days

[vernal moth]

I dont give a shit about plugins, they shouldnt access internals anyways 😄

we livestreamed it...

[marble lark]

I didn't watch it lol

[marble lark]

You just triggered potentially a large amount of plugin devs lolol

[vernal moth]

they know what they are doing is wrong

[marble lark]

fair enough

[quasi valley]

so you volunteer to doing virtual and per player entity api?

[vernal moth]

no, but I would do a packet API 😄

in craftbukkit

[marble lark]

sometimes it do be the only way unfortunately, though this is probably only when you want to add some extremely obscure feature

[quasi valley]

mfw packet api

[marble lark]

f*ck Packets

[quasi valley]

packet api is worse than just using mapped nms

[marble lark]

just don't do Packets at all god please

[vernal moth]

well, the packet api would allow you to send and recieve mojang packets, lol

[void void]

being able to manipulate packets is ok

e.g to post-process chat messages, entity names etc.

[quasi valley]

send(Object) 10/10 api

[void void]

placeholders? "no swearing in my christian server"? you name it

[vernal moth]

no it would be packet, lol

[void void]

...preventing server from spamming players with command completions packet unnecessarily as well

[marble lark]

again

[vernal moth]

yes it would be exposing nms, but that part of nms really is an api

[marble lark]

just f*ck packets in general

[void void]

why

[vernal moth]

multiplayer was a mistake, I agree

[limpid comet]

u got something against tcp

[marble lark]

Just leave them to Mojang I hate working with them lolol

[marble lark]

To be honest Networking was my least favourite course

[quasi valley]

sounds like a you problem

[vernal moth]

It's really simple, lol

Protocollib is what makes it hard

And ppl reading wiki.vg wrong

[void void]

multiplayer should just be IPC

[quasi valley]

or wiki.vg being wrong

[limpid comet]

should be IPoAC

[void void]

ip over ...?

[limpid comet]

avian carriers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers

[void void]

based

[vernal moth]

Mc should use Kafka

[limpid comet]

we'll see what those 1.8 pvpers say when their ping is 50 minutes

[void void]

rabbitmq please

over cloudamqp

😎

[vernal moth]

Kafka is more complicated tho so it wins

[void void]

and heavier

[vernal moth]

And scalable!

[marble lark]

try 2 days

is there a difference between

io.papermc.paperweight.patcher
and
io.papermc.paperweight.core

their usage in different areas is pretty confusing

[viral hornet]

Maybe ask in #paper-dev?

Might get better responses/people watching that channel 🙂

[untold copper]

day #34 of trying to get abs (yesterday): no exercise because i was studying
day #35 of trying to get abs (today): did 35 min cardio because im too tired for 55 mins

[grave rover]

day #36 of trying to get abs (tomorrow): i did 30 pushups where are my abs

[faint crystal]

yea wtf

[grave rover]

day #37 of trying to get abs (overmorrow): this doesn't really help i should give up

[untold copper]

wat

ayo no

im at day 35 already

i ain't giving up now

[grave rover]

good

[faint crystal]

keep it up

[grave rover]

dont skip the leg day

[untold copper]

also i cant manage more than 5 pushups

[untold copper]

I dont

[grave rover]

work on your chest a bit then

or start with wall pushups

[untold copper]

hm

I'll try :D

[vernal moth]

Patcher is for forks, core is for paper pretty much

[nova plume]

did u see a girl or smth smh

[grave rover]

girls are real?????

[nova plume]

idk man

[grave rover]

i knew e-girls implied the existance of irl girls but damn

never knew

[faint crystal]

day #1 of traying to get abs (today): did 10 pushups. Since when they so hard?

[unkempt drift]

Are you copying snoopa?

That’s whose also trying to get abs

I think

[faint crystal]

he inspired me

[unkempt drift]

👍

[grave rover]

so you did 10 pushups

got the abs yet?

[faint crystal]

no 😕

[wispy blade]

lol kacper doesn't have abs

[faint crystal]

not yet

[unkempt drift]

Certified Discord Streamer with no abs?

[faint crystal]

don't make no sense right?

[magic river]

Packets change every version and there are rules on what packets can be sent when beyond just the join vs play stuff

It'd be an API that changes every release and the documentation would be "here is a link to wiki.vg, good luck"

People would file issues every time a packet they sent to a client broke something expecting you to make it better because why would you expose something broken?

signal?

or maybe matrix

[minor badge]

airgapped systems where you drop off encrypted flash drives to one another

[magic river]

signal would be the most secure by default but iirc ties accounts to phone numbers

Matrix requires you to set your client up correctly to get that level of security but accounts can be throwaway

[vernal moth]

Craftbukkit API, as in, a method you give a class and a lambda, and a method you give a packet

[magic river]

What?

[untold copper]

p e r h a p s

[nova plume]

omds

should be studying not going after girls @untold copper

smh smh

[untold copper]

im not actively going after her

I make her come to me

catch my gig?

[nova plume]

smh

[untold copper]

:D

[waxen panther]

@cunning raft

thoughts?

[cunning raft]

what

[waxen panther]

thoughts?

[cunning raft]

on what

[waxen panther]

snoopas messages

[ashen cliff]

Don't bully Snoopa bro.

[waxen panther]

no bullying bro

😁

[ashen cliff]

Let him ruin his life with girls at the ripe old age of 14.

[warm anchor]

@waxen panther

[mighty storm]

What's with all the weebs

[limber knot]

smh no hating

Listen pointing out weebs and hating them are very different

I would never do either

[warm anchor]

those are CUTE emojis!

[limber knot]

What are

[quasi valley]

true!

[waxen panther]

better than the thousands of r*ry lovers

[warm anchor]

[warm anchor]

I am totally not addicted to stickers

[untold copper]

wtf bro

im 15 ok >:(

besides I'll have you know that i study a lot

[plucky sparrow]

bro bro bro

[untold copper]

what bro

[plucky sparrow]

bro

[untold copper]

bro.

[plucky sparrow]

Bro.

[nova plume]

@untold copper unbelievable

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor ayaya

[warm anchor]

[lament patio]

Hey, EterNity, if you don't mind: do you have the "Always free" label beside your ARM instance? Mine isn't there and Idk what changed

[tropic flame]

https://www.cartoonbrew.com/anime/obama-thanks-japan-for-anime-112443.html

obama likes anime, people

therefore anime gud

obama weeb

[quasi valley]

these 10/10 image edits

[warm anchor]

it wont have always free coz it's a different promo. As long as you dont go over the 4 ARM core 24 GB RAM requirement, you are fine

[lament patio]

Oh, phew, thanks

[silk gyro]

What would you guys call the different types of mc server?

Like paper, spigot, waterfall, purper.. if you was to group them.. what would that group be called?

[floral mesa]

forks

[vernal moth]

Waterfall isn't part of that group

[brave radish]

"Bukkit land" for a group name but ^^