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peak dirge
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I am fairly sure it is most, if not all of them. Take Waterfall, apply Velocity code on top, and presto, "optimized BungeeCord"

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It sickens me, since I spend a lot of time working on Velocity. It really ruins what motivation I do have, and it makes my time feel worthless since they are charging for the work I did for free. This is why I relicensed Velocity under GPLv3.

tribal tundra
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Hey Tux, nice to properly meet you! It's definitely something I'll look into more and discuss with my team. Once I've had the meeting I'll definitely give an update here about it

peak dirge
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The least you can do is comply with licensing terms (Velocity is GPLv3 since March 24, 2021) and chip in something to thank me for the work I've done in the area of Minecraft optimizations in networking.

wispy blade
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don't think most of those MCM bungee fork creators even care about licensing

peak dirge
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In my time in Minecraft I estimate that I've made less than $12k total during my time.

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That's over... 9 years.

static badge
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POGGERS pays well

vernal moth
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I made ~1k lol

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bit more I guess

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but I also dont do this for money

tropic flame
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all of them in general don't

peak dirge
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I'm at the point where money is pretty much one of the few motivators available to me

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The passion is long dead.

worn ember
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sucks to be you

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i usually do stuff to learn, if i make a few bucks on the way, nice

waxen panther
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ded really just said “sucks to be you”

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wtf

peak dirge
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The thing is that I've already learned everything I want to know about Minecraft, and at this point it really doesn't serve much of a purpose in my life.

cedar spade
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or at least justify the usage of their time

peak dirge
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I have to eat somehow. Pretty hard for me to have done that with my mother receiving a tiny Social Security check that has to cover 4 people.

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Right now I have a full-time job (thankfully) but that simply means I can't do Minecraft stuff very much. I'm compensated at a level much higher than I'd make doing just Minecraft work.

plucky sparrow
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pure evil

magic river
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lol facebook posted a job listing for a rendering system architect for VR stuff and the requirements are so crazy John Carmack says he doesn't meet them

zealous knot
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Yeet bruh

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Ngl these are fucking sick

worn ember
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are those magnets?

cunning raft
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pins

zealous knot
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Nah they’re pins

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Theres a bunch of stickers too

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They’re pretty cool too

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There’s a fuck ton of them

void void
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Wait

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Is paper 1.17 here?

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I just reinstalled my server and it says it's on 1.17??

obtuse jasper
zealous knot
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Good morning sleepy head

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Its been out for a while

void void
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Oh

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Ok

olive marlin
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Given that pre3 is out and so hopefully full release will be out soon, I'm still waiting.

red ember
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where can i see the papermc changelogs

olive marlin
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.downloads

limber knotBOT
olive marlin
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Each version says what changed.

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If that's what you ask.

nimble depot
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But free pins are pog so yeah, good stuff

zealous knot
nimble depot
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Dunno, but cursed. Let me get my classy IBM pin

worn ember
zealous knot
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Its just some wumpus with LGBT flags bruh

shell vine
worn ember
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<@&748618676189528155>

swift root
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!ban 720726271767609444 advertising spam

thorny flickerBOT
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:raised_hands: Banned Zinx#8192 (advertising spam) [1 total infraction] -- Larry#6086.

swift root
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thanks DED

worn ember
brave radish
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thanks LArry

quasi valley
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thenks lerry

swift root
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uwu

magic river
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How to break github co-pilot: once it gets C++ support start writing a Win32-compatible OS and watch it fill in suggestions from all the Windows source code leaks that pop up on github

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Then just wait for Microsoft to sue you for using their tool to violate their license and have them argue their tool violates copyright of the code it read

worn ember
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i understand about 10% of that sentence

magic river
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github co-pilot most likely violates the licenses of all the code it read

swift root
magic river
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Because it and the code it spit out are derivative works or just outright copies of all that code

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Apparently in an earlier iteration when you pointed it at a blank file it'd suggest you put in the GPL header since that was the most common way it saw files start

brave radish
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I didn't put headers on any of my files in projects licensed under the GPL... guess I should go do that lol

magic river
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It's basically just a tool to let you pretend copy/pasting code from open source projects isn't a license violation

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Because it takes extra steps and changes variable names for you

olive marlin
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github copilot has, by their own admission, been trained on mountains of gpl code, so i'm unclear on how it's not a form of laundering open source code into commercial works. the handwave of "it usually doesn't reproduce exact chunks" is not very satisfying

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worthy geode
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Ah yes, "Open" AI and their somewhat scary closed-source AI experiments

molten vessel
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OpenAI isnt open at all

worthy geode
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GPT-2 was, everything after that not

molten vessel
left swift
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Is that a paid service?

ancient bolt
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Ah yes some youtube video, that's my main source for true and verified facts

molten vessel
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its in beta right now. payment is not even being talked about

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AFAIK

left swift
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There would most definitely by some sort of sign off when you agree to use that or something right? Microsoft and sneakily signing rights away from users

ancient bolt
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OpenAI is trying really hard to keep their image up by being in full control of what the tool is being used for and how it's represented. It can't stay that way forever though so...we'll see

left swift
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It would be called a terms of service

worthy geode
broken rampart
worthy geode
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they are mainly good at marketing anyways

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its still impressive, but not as impressive or far ahead as they make it out to be

austere ivy
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what’s weird is that I’ve come across this very same Twitter user some years ago for another technical related post.

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she’s an interesting person

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also imagine just. having the Twitter handle “eevee”

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that’s insane.

peak dirge
austere ivy
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I don’t think that it was related to php. but it might’ve been, I’m not sure. I don’t exactly remember what they posted

peak dirge
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I won't be using an AI when writing my code. I'm sorry.

austere ivy
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I already use AI when writing my code 😎

worn ember
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its cool to see others come up with uses for it, but yeah same, i wont be integrating it anytime soon

worn ember
austere ivy
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I mean more seriously IntelliJ’s refactoring stuff counts as AI.

worn ember
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cuz that already uses intellisense for code completion

austere ivy
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Their grammar suggestions are AI, intelisense is technically AI

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yeah

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Machine learning? no. but if statements are technically AI

peak dirge
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Autocomplete is IMO not AI

warm anchor
worn ember
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AI != machine learning tho

peak dirge
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Okay, fine. Let's clarify. I'm not going to be using a neural network to write my code.

austere ivy
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shrug, “AI” means different things to different people. what’s the word other than AI and ML that’s for robots that like, are actually AI?

worn ember
warm anchor
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They host small booth too for you to try and beat OpenAI bot in Dota SF vs SF 1vs1 mid @worn ember

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you get free arcana if you maange to beat the AI

austere ivy
peak dirge
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I'm willing to accept lower-quality code suggestions and a bit more pain to protect my privacy.

austere ivy
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that’s a good point. I’m not concerned about anyone stealing my code quality though lol

worn ember
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idc if they use my data, as long as its not personal stuff

warm anchor
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but ded not everyone is like you.

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some has more concerns

austere ivy
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if anything I’d imagine they’d add a special clause just to block me from polluting their data sets

worn ember
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sure, and i'm fine with that, just saying thats how i treat it

austere ivy
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I wonder if this is why Microsoft bought GitHub. Access to the world’s largest code data set.

worn ember
austere ivy
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Is copilot of Microsoft’s creation?

worn ember
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well its from gh no?

austere ivy
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well yeah but was it conceived before or after acquisition?

worn ember
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probably after, i dont think gh has the funds for such large projects on their own

austere ivy
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hmm yeah I guess

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I wonder how much gh is making

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Hosting that much stuff ain’t cheap, and not that many people have pro

cunning raft
austere ivy
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big query?

cunning raft
austere ivy
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huh

worn ember
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they bought it to yoink their tools for azure lul

austere ivy
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what is azure anyway? git hosting?

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never bothered to learn, lemme go Google

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ok so apparently the answer is “a lot”

worn ember
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ye

austere ivy
cunning raft
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azure is microsoft's aws/gcs

austere ivy
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ah okay that answers it.

worn ember
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it lets you host repo's, deploy to azure services build artifacts, pipelines, planning etc

austere ivy
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huh, neat

worn ember
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its useful if your services run on MS stuff

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for everything else i'd use github personally

vernal moth
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azure is a cloud platform

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azure devops is github kinda

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githubs actions are powered by azure dev ops pipelines

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azure devops is what visual studio team services where

worn ember
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a lot has improved in devops the last few years tbh

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so they definitely learned a lot from gh

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i really gotta stop saying "i'll get it finished by tomorrow"

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cuz its never true kekwhyper

olive marlin
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Yeah. You always hit something absolutely stupid like an endpoint returning 404 instead of 405 and spend way too much time debugging it.

worn ember
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yeah stupid issues can set you back a couple hours <.< its always the little ones that get you

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lost 4 hours dealing with database stuff this week cuz M$ sql servers are a pile of poop and their services break constantly for me

austere ivy
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I spent like an hour last night trying to get regex to work to make code in paper-forker not be weird

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here’s a highlight from then

worn ember
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just ping denwav to fix it :p he'd have it down in like 10 mins

austere ivy
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he is regex master?

golden gust
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regex is not hard

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the trick is to break it down

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and develop a huge sense of self loathing

worn ember
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cat after 3 beers

austere ivy
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I’ve got step 2 done but how do I do step 1

worn ember
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those regex helper sites are a good help too

austere ivy
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idk what I’d do if those regex sites that tell you what every qualifier does didn’t exist

worn ember
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yeah same

austere ivy
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yeah literally like. prayga

worn ember
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probably cry and use a lot of string.replace lmao

golden gust
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I mean, it's hard to explain, but, a regex is just a bunch of rules and features like "logical" features

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am not a pro at regex, far from it, but, I just break down what I'm parsing

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write a few dozen valid and invalid matches on regex101, and start tryna break it down

austere ivy
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cat can I commission you to make a regex for me

worn ember
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it gets annoying when you run into variations where some regex parsers dont act the same

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like something on regex101 could work fine, but then when doing it in java theres like a slight variation in how something is handled or something and ends up failing

royal kernel
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does anyone else have problems with firefox being slow?

potent fossil
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no

worn ember
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havent used ff in like 5 years

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could clear caches and stuff maybe?

royal kernel
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thanks

austere ivy
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who the HECK decided to have regex “flavors”????

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garbage. bad.

golden gust
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I mean, everybody has their own impl

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each often with missing features from the others

worn ember
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its been pretty consistent for me for the most part, but i havent used that many parses tho

austere ivy
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not following the spec shouldn’t be an implementation detail

olive marlin
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The main one is perl-compatible, right?

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The issue is - there's many specs.

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Just check grep for example:

   Pattern Syntax
       -E, --extended-regexp
              Interpret PATTERNS as extended regular expressions (EREs, see
              below).

       -F, --fixed-strings
              Interpret PATTERNS as fixed strings, not regular expressions.

       -G, --basic-regexp
              Interpret PATTERNS as basic regular expressions (BREs, see
              below).  This is the default.

       -P, --perl-regexp
              Interpret PATTERNS as Perl-compatible regular expressions
              (PCREs).  This option is experimental when combined with the -z
              (--null-data) option, and grep -P may warn of unimplemented
              features.

ERE, BRE, PCRE

golden gust
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afaik all of them implement the base stuff

olive marlin
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And there's more.

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Yes, but not always the same way.

golden gust
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But, yea, as prof said, it's basically a whole world of jank

worn ember
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sounds like every programming lang in a nutshell

golden gust
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you'll often find that the normal stuff is there, but, as soon as you start getting to the more interesting features, it gets really fun

worn ember
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tried to parse html using regex

olive marlin
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For example, in BRE you need to escape special characters to make them work as special, in PCRE or ERE you usually need to escape them to make them loose their special status.

potent fossil
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html is unparseable by regex

golden gust
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where theres a will

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There is a way

potent fossil
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because it's infinitely nestable

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so, basically, lol

worn ember
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i meaannn i didnt have to parse the entire doc, just specific parts

golden gust
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INFINATE STACK BRO

warm anchor
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This discussion is disgusting

golden gust
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Regex html parsing lib

warm anchor
worn ember
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but yeah, ended up using a html parser instead lol after i got yelled at by like 10 people

golden gust
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almost as efficient as chrome

worn ember
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if it works it works right

formal turret
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loki is so good

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i love the music

austere ivy
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regex not being able to parse html is obviously a design failure. we must invent regex 2, capable of elegantly handling infinite recursion

tropic flame
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ah yes

austere ivy
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how do you parse html anyway?

tropic flame
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someone bring in that comic about the fifteen competing standards please

austere ivy
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.docs standards

limber knotBOT
austere ivy
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dangit shut up autocorrect

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.xkcd standards

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) No results found!

austere ivy
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? sorry what

tropic flame
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... oof

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.xkcd competing standards

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) No results found!

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(DiscordBot) No results found!

tropic flame
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this fake paperchan barely works

limber knotBOT
tropic flame
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at this point the joke is over already

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what a mood killer

potent fossil
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No idea how that xkcd command works, honestly

austere ivy
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I blame the xkcd command

potent fossil
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yea just cloudbot, i haven't looked at it though

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simpleauthority/cloudbot i believe

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should be plugins/xkcd

austere ivy
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wait you make cloudbot?

potent fossil
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no lol

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i just host a cloudbot for paper

austere ivy
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oh. Ooh ok lol

potent fossil
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its xkcd script is scuffed though

austere ivy
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fork time

potent fossil
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yea i just dont have time

wide chasm
austere ivy
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considering the type of tech comics that xkcd makes, I bet they have a swell api

potent fossil
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so html is parseable by regex now?

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still sounds like hell

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ah if thats all then should be fixable

wide chasm
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I haven't done it myself, but I think it should be possible

austere ivy
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is the bot open source?

potent fossil
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yes

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its just a cloudbot

wide chasm
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Very basic example, but this could match very simple HTML <([a-zA-Z]+)>(?R)?<\/\g1>

potent fossil
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The takeaway from all this is that Ruby regexes are powerful enough to describe CFGs. And since HTML is a CFG, you should be able to write a Ruby regex which matches HTML. I, however, am not bored enough to actually attempt such a thing. Perhaps you, dear reader, are willing to undertake this task. However, if you do so, I must warn you that some unfortunate side effects may occur, including (but not limited to) fits of rage, loss of sanity, and the summoning of Cthulhu himself.

wide chasm
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The recursion flag is kinda neat. For example, this will match palindromes: ([a-zA-Z])((?R)?|[a-zA-Z])\g1.

austere ivy
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Ooh, that’s pretty neat too

wide chasm
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Wouldn't ever recommend using regex for such tasks, cause regex is already pretty slow itself, but, it's possible

potent fossil
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I don't hate myself this much; have fun peeps. My class just ended so I'm going to go cry in the shower

austere ivy
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wait.

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hate ya simpl see ya. ❤️

upbeat falconBOT
worn ember
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thats more like it lol

plucky sparrow
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p

potent fossil
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@void void hi we have #gifs-and-memes for this shit thanks :)

void void
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Why is there 3gbs just for the world itselfs?

brave radish
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Worlds are huge

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it's literally a world

potent fossil
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Lol.

void void
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Bruh I'm poor I only have 4gbs of ram

potent fossil
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We can't do anything about it

void void
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I'm aware

brave radish
potent fossil
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Paper doesn't make them huge, they're just huge. Even on Vanilla.

void void
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Ram

brave radish
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oh

void void
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I couldn't care about the drive space

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I have plenty

worthy geode
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Just download more ram smh

brave radish
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well yeah we can't do much about that either 😄 3 GB isn't that much
However, where are you getting that number from?

void void
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Wdym

left swift
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Huh

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Are you complaining about the server using the ram you assigned it

brave radish
void void
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It didn't say just said 3gbs being used

brave radish
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...

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what is "it"

left swift
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Lagassist

void void
brave radish
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mkay

worn ember
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it using all your ram isnt a bad thing

brave radish
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that saying you're using 3.45 GB doesn't mean your server is using all of its RAM

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that just means the JVM allocated it

void void
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Whats a JVM?

brave radish
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Java Virtual Machine, in this case you can just pretend it's the server

worn ember
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its like putting 4 cookies on a plate and telling people they only can take 1 or 2, doesnt make sense

void void
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Ohhhh

brave radish
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here, read my cake analogy from yesterday cuz I'm tired of typing

golden gust
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ZCM wishes he was billy

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smh

brave radish
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huh

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what, is Billy the only one allowed to make analogies here?

golden gust
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dum analogies is billys thing

worn ember
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dare i say it

golden gust
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Billy

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dey tuuk ur jeerb

brave radish
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Billy has been typing in #paper-dev for like an hour now

golden gust
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Yea, it's scaring me

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and here we are talking about him

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what a smell

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maybe he's looking for the enter key

brave radish
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doesn't smell as bad as his rug

golden gust
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presses a few and loses track

brave radish
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oh there we go

golden gust
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HOLY SHIT

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HE DID IT

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HE FOUND IT

ashen cliff
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BRO!

lime oak
ashen cliff
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GOOD BRO!

plucky sparrow
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Imagine there's two or four people

brave radish
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then you use separate plates

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sanitary

golden gust
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Yea, but, less dishes, smh

plucky sparrow
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plate in singular smh

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not plural

brave radish
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DED your analogy made even less sense then mine it's on you to defend it from here

wide chasm
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If you're, say, running a test server on your desktop, yeah then telling it to use all your memory doesn't make sense. But for dedicated servers where the server will be the only thing running, give it everything you have.

golden gust
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GO ON, GIV IT TO 'ER

worn ember
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you cant say to person 3 sorry bro you cant have the cookie cuz i dont want you eating it

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that'd just be rude

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good job, now my eye is bleeding

left swift
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Brocc started some CEO club now

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And brocc isnt even a ceo anymore

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Getting excluded from ur own club u started Sadge

worn ember
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the burden of being a weeb

left swift
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Tragic

meager tusk
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This chat would be perfect

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If there was no DED.

left swift
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Wtf Ldriz

plucky sparrow
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who's DED???

worn ember
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toxic

meager tusk
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WTF mana.

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I'm LITERALLY supporting you being in this chat.

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And you refer to me as Ldriz.

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You want me dead. Is that it?

worn ember
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without ded this chat would be dead

left swift
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I knew someone like that before

golden gust
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average IQ would sky rocket though

meager tusk
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LOL

worn ember
plucky sparrow
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spotify doesn't make sense

left swift
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Free britney

plucky sparrow
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Why can you pick songs on pc but not on phone?'?"=R)/()=

meager tusk
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Free imagine dragons

worn ember
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if cat left the amount of merges wouldnt change tho pepe_run

left swift
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Imagine dragon deez nuts on ur face

meager tusk
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Shut up

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you were supposed to ask "What happened to imagine dragons" or something

left swift
worn ember
left swift
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Not surprising smh

meager tusk
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😡

worn ember
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i'm real good at it too 😉

twin lagoon
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IDRIZ!

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BRO!

meager tusk
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Bro.

ashen cliff
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Bro.

left swift
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FACT!

meager tusk
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Just realized somebody leaked KGBPaper @ashen cliff.

ashen cliff
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NOT GOOD BRO!

meager tusk
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It's OK bro.

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Some W*Sterner tried to download it.

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Their server blew up.

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Fact.

ashen cliff
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Expected.

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They didn't update the kernel bro! Left that MSR write enabled. kekwhyper

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Thanks Intel for providing a 2.4V option for normal CPUs.

meager tusk
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kekwhyper That could be one reason bro!

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But they also forgot to be Balkan.

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And you can't do anything about that.

plucky sparrow
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wait I have a question, is it worth it to overclock my cpu to 5.0ghz if it can already go up to 4.7ghz by default

left swift
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Balkan deez nuts on ur face

ashen cliff
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Always.

meager tusk
plucky sparrow
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I've tried overclocking it but I just can't see any difference

left swift
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Might aswell go for 6 ghz

ashen cliff
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Bro. Overclock more.

worn ember
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@ mods can you tell this little panda to get off my back pl0x

meager tusk
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What panda

left swift
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Ded CEO of snitching

worn ember
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dont think i dont know

pliant oracle
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Is it safe to update my server to 1.17 paper yet or not?

brave radish
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Probably

plucky sparrow
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update to 1.18 paper

brave radish
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take backups

golden gust
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read the announcements, use your own judgement

zealous knot
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or don't use judgement and blame the devs, up to you mfBingShrug

worn ember
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me with sxcu

pliant oracle
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Ok thaks

zealous knot
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stfu

pliant oracle
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thanks

worn ember
zealous knot
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thaks

plucky sparrow
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tanks

golden gust
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hey fix

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suck pp fix

brave radish
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.paperspigot

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:(

olive python
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.fart

waxen panther
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no

ashen cliff
golden gust
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shit, am at the wrong place

worn ember
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#bathwater

golden gust
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The top quality content we need

void void
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correct

golden gust
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THAT ENDING

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FUCKING

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That needs an oskar

ashen cliff
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What was our safeword again? kekwhyper

olive python
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thank you.

golden gust
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whispers ||There is no safeword||

left swift
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Fart into the asmr ear mic then go back to licking it again

void void
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safeword is your dad's third mistress' middle name

swift root
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It's george?!!?!

ashen cliff
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Mikro.

void void
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what's up my dude

ashen cliff
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No. That's her name.

void void
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in your dreams

ashen cliff
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Can't deny it bro.

brave radish
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well that's nice

waxen panther
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hasnt that been a thing for agggessssss

golden gust
#

yup

ashen cliff
#

Yes.

brave radish
#

wow

#

never seen it before, maybe GitHub just doesn't like me

#

I also got dark mode like two months after most people ¯_(ツ)_/¯

wispy blade
#

imagine being liked by github

worn ember
#

wheres your color mikro sad

void void
#

don't need one

worn ember
#

its ok, you'll always be special to me

void void
#

🥰

ashen cliff
#

Good thing Dark doesn't have a color. Otherwise people might actually take him seriously.

worn ember
#

i'll be core team in no time bro

wispy blade
#

Bro.

#

i think the great krusic22 should have a colour.

ashen cliff
#

Already have the best color. kekwhyper

worn ember
wispy blade
#

yeah bro

#

all the colours is the best colour

worn ember
#

tbf white is literally every color

ashen cliff
#

Daily reminder bro:

quasi valley
#

that centering

worn ember
#

lmao i was gonna say, why tf are they not aligned

ashen cliff
#

Look. I'm not a Paint professional.

quasi valley
wispy blade
#

bro, when will i get invited to the KGBTuinity discord?

worn ember
#

i thought it was legit for a second until i saw the alignment

#

but then again, you dont have 9 friends

ashen cliff
wispy blade
left swift
#

Naomi ceo of loneliness

wispy blade
#

i can count the amount of friends you have on a single hand

left swift
#

Wtf

wispy blade
#

oh wait that was meant for DED kekw

#

fits anyway

formal turret
#

on a single hand with all the fingers chopped off?

void void
#

you don't need any fingers to count ded's friends

wispy blade
#

TRUE

#

daily reminder DED is from Belgium

void void
#

ewwwwww

wispy blade
#

exactly

#

nuke belgium, re-annexate Flanders to restore the Duchy of Brabant

left swift
#

Is that a type of fish

wispy blade
#

bro.

#

disappointed

left swift
#

I get that alot Sadge

ashen cliff
#

AVG IQ dropping again.

brave radish
ashen cliff
#

Bro!

left swift
#

2 pinks!

wispy blade
#

bro!

ashen cliff
#

I never use online mode! kekwhyper

quasi valley
#

obv fake

#

^yeah has to be dnd

ashen cliff
#

Only DND or dead ass mode.

wispy blade
#

real authme dev mode kekwhyper

ashen cliff
magic ice
ashen cliff
brave radish
#

just did

ashen cliff
#

I guess Discord really wanted me to restart and see that epic Via sticker.

golden gust
#

Yea, is being dumb

#

Status page for dumcord shows a nice spike in API response times \o/

brave radish
#

Discord likes making things into PNGs

#

really annoying

ashen cliff
#

Well it's animated. But Discord just isn't animating it. kekwhyper

#

I assume that's to combat the animated png exploit.

mossy vessel
quasi valley
#

good thing people can now use emojis but in bigger

#

if you pay more money*

ashen cliff
#

We use to be able to do that before stickers tho. kekwhyper

quasi valley
#

aside from sending links to images manually omegaroll

ashen cliff
#

Even before that.

#

If you had a high resolution emote and send it normally, it would be as big as the stickers currently.

quasi valley
#

oh lol

mossy vessel
#

Now I need to convert all gifs to apngs and upload them as stickers

lime oak
#

paper-chan stickers when

ashen cliff
unkempt drift
#

there's a via version discord?

brave radish
#

yeah

ashen cliff
#

Sadly.

quasi valley
#

apparently private tho kappapride

brave radish
unkempt drift
#

oh wait, you know I was thinking of protocol lib. that's the big one that doesnt have a discord

lime oak
#

joined specifically to test the sticker

lime oak
ashen cliff
#

We really should apply for that. Oh wait.

golden gust
#

via is literally a plague on the community, prove me wrong

brave radish
#

ViaVersion is good for two months out of the year

#

the rest, yeah

warm anchor
#

@quasi valley how much you pay to get selected. 😔

cunning raft
#

posting stickers are a good one to show off how much you're being scammed by discord

warm anchor
#

I really hate discord beta testing method dedrie

mossy vessel
#

I like paying for the ability to display images!

warm anchor
#

Can always upload a new one each time!

#

Discord trying to save storage space krappa

lime oak
#

more ways to spread weeb shit

warm anchor
lime oak
#

thanks discord :D

ashen cliff
#

Good thing 99% of things are just reposts.

warm anchor
#

Yeah

#

which interm save their resource usage

mossy vessel
warm anchor
#

I bet there’s like half a million amogus meme picture

ashen cliff
#

All images are Amogus. kekwhyper

lime oak
#

that's terrible

warm anchor
mossy vessel
#

Working on a filter

warm anchor
#

Ohhh

brave radish
#

no

warm anchor
#

Well your map need to be on 1.17 too!

brave radish
#

You should be able to upgrade from 1.16->1.17, just not downgrade

mossy vessel
warm anchor
#

Dotn filter my emoji riesad

#

They cute!

brave radish
#

NMF breaking Discord ToS 👀
ban yourself

wispy blade
#

^

mossy vessel
#

The data is still there, just not visualized ThinkSmart

#

Sooo I still have these dumb stickers somewhere cached

warm anchor
#

Don’t think he can get in any trouble. He’s just not displaying certain feature

mossy vessel
wispy blade
#

when discord added reply and stickers it just turned into whatsapp for me

mossy vessel
#

People using stickers on whatsapp get blocked immediately

quasi valley
#

@warm anchor I’ll smoltheman you as soon as you send your first weeb sticker dinkdonk

merry talon
#

Stickers have been a horrible feature that have been on platforms for years already

warm anchor
#

My artist is busy FeelsBadMan

wispy blade
#

@quasi valley uwu

merry talon
#

No idea why discord added them

warm anchor
#

Only a few

warm anchor
quasi valley
#

Stickers are just larger emojis lmao

warm anchor
#

They are basically that

#

But with server info attached 😉

wispy blade
#

yeah but emojis also have server info attached?

warm anchor
#

But now it’s BIGGER

#

on your face kind

wispy blade
#

and taking up EVEN more space

warm anchor
#

TRUE

#

Full HD paper chan sticker soon??

quasi valley
#

thanks discord, very cool

cosmic nova
quasi valley
#

see, stickers are a mistake

mossy vessel
#

We all love an already busted chat system being fucked even more

wispy blade
#

like, this is how much space it takes up on my laptop

quasi valley
#

doesn’t even need a full day to tell us they are

warm anchor
#

Weeb is like paying the discord bill

#

Not even kidding

ashen cliff
#

Good thing you can't see what servers the stickers are from. kekwhyper

warm anchor
#

Look at server with few hundred boosting

ashen cliff
#

I know exactly where that one is from.

warm anchor
#

Krusic cultured?

#

Pog

ashen cliff
#

Ram ranch.

#

It rocks.

wispy blade
#

ok but eternity do you know the name of the touhou 6 extra stage boss

warm anchor
#

I am not that INTO touhou

golden gust
#

k

wispy blade
#

easiest touhou question bro

warm anchor
#

My love starts wit Marisa and ends with Marisa

meager tusk
#

Hi.

warm anchor
wispy blade
#

based.

meager tusk
#

Why is the chat full of weebs?

#

@ashen cliff thoughts?

ashen cliff
#

Bro!

#

Ask Github to remove that p from your Github URL BRO!

meager tusk
#

Bro.

#

That stands for Pro.

ashen cliff
#

I'm not going to ask twice bro!

meager tusk
#

Fair bro.

#

I'm gonna ask github.

wispy blade
#

have fun with Microsoft support bro.

ashen cliff
#

It's worth it to be OG!

meager tusk
#

What the fuck its some random organization

#

Does Github let you claim the name if there's nothing in the org since 1915

ashen cliff
#

Yes bro!

meager tusk
#

Shit guess it's worth a try bro

mossy vessel
#

They let me claim my name from someone who had nothing but one repo from 2009

lime oak
#

they don't do that anymore

meager tusk
#

😐

mossy vessel
#

Yeah, they still do that

lime oak
#

are you saying that what i saw on reddit is a lie

warm anchor
#

Reddit is almost always wrong

ashen cliff
#

deleted

warm anchor
#

Dude prob got salty his name got yeet’d

meager tusk
#

Fucking Reddit

warm anchor
#

Reddit is only good if you already kinda know what you look for

#

The more popular the sub the lower the quality

meager tusk
#

Next you're gonna tell me r/politics is bad

ashen cliff
#

Looking for PfSense specs help:
90% of people: YOU DON'T NEED A GOOD CPU!
Their setup: BRAND NEW 9900k FOR A 1Mbps LINE!

warm anchor
#

I think paperMC one is better krappa

#

Lol

ashen cliff
#

Legit.

warm anchor
#

If you read r/admincraft you get stroke too

ashen cliff
#

I avoid that hell hole.

meager tusk
#

Indeed.

wispy blade
#

you honestly get better help/advice in here

warm anchor
#

Ofcoz

ashen cliff
#

Actually, I avoid all Minecraft subreddits after PowerGamer destroyed me. kekwhyper

warm anchor
#

Paper help is best of all community

wispy blade
#

unless i feel like trolling kekw

meager tusk
#

slow down eternity

warm anchor
#

Fork support has some good people too but paper is most active

ashen cliff
#

You haven't seen KGB support.

worn ember
#

little do they know i'm secretly a spigot dev gottem

warm anchor
#

True

ashen cliff
#

We just added 1.8 plugin support to 1.19. Just to make sure no one is left out.

olive marlin
warm anchor
#

Ded has resource in spigot forum. He literally sucks md5

worn ember
#

yes, suck him dry of all his cash by wasting terrabytes on traffic

warm anchor
#

Breaking news Spigot rtp dev shade everything into his jar to waste traffic with his 300 MB jar

ashen cliff
#

Just shade the whole Spigot jar into RTP.

meager tusk
#

You don't do that?

ashen cliff
#

We already do that.

meager tusk
#

I shade in every fork.

worn ember
#

fork, spoon, knife, all shaded

wispy blade
#

bro.

#

zip bomb much?

wispy blade
ashen cliff
#

We did integrate an AI helper to auto fix all issues.

#

We have all Via, PS, AuthMe issues integrated.

wispy blade
#

oh wait, it was on my fork of it

#

AIVDTuinity

#

i patched them out on accident

golden gust
#

There is no way

#

No way

#

That you came from my loins boy

#

when I get home, imma punch your mama in the mouth

worn ember
golden gust
#

I really gotta get better at quoting that movie

worn ember
#

run forrest run

wispy blade
#

ok DED

mortal zinc
#

reddit is representative of the human race

#

let's make that clear

wispy blade
#

factual

mortal zinc
#

there are some good apples but they end up getting spoiled by the bunch

void void
#

i hope that was an irony

#

reddit is a hive mind these days

hardy lodge
#

So, I want to change my server to offline-mode, is there a way I can go in & change which username has which uuid so i can solve issues?

potent fossil
#

No, offline mode generates UUIDs based on the username.

#

Not the other way around.

#

Furthermore, we don't really support piracy here.

warm anchor
#

He asked in support and came here right after PepeLa

brave radish
#

^

potent fossil
#

lol

void void
#

yeah pls hang all pirates finally

limber knotBOT
potent fossil
#

I mean, if you're going to pirate, you do you. But don't ask for support.

#

You do it, you get to support yourself.

#

That easy

#

(That's my personal take, not speaking on behalf of paper (hopefully obviously))

left swift
#

How dare you have an opinion

warm anchor
#

I don’t think paper or any of its fork support piracy

potent fossil
#

Well, I think CG says you can ask but it's up to the specific person helping

#

Need to go read it again

warm anchor
#

Purpur has a special role called offline PepeLa

brave radish
#

or, rather, it doesn't say you can't ask

potent fossil
#

Please don't harass people for using offline mode. We understand that you might not like it and don't want to support it yourself, and that is okay. In that case, just leave people alone, and let someone else answer their questions.

so, like, basically - you can ask, and people can decline to help, but if someone does decide to help then let them do so w/o commentary and im fine with that

but im declining

#

Alright, anyway, I'm bored. How's everyone's day going

warm anchor
#

Not bad

young lark
#

can i post a skribbl link :)

potent fossil
warm anchor
#

Gonna draw up announcement for my small event map for 1.17 Hype

potent fossil
#

Wait shit

#

That's archived

mortal zinc
warm anchor
#

2012

#

Also someone who ain’t in Mojang anymore

#

K

golden gust
#

irrelevant

#

we can't stop you pirating, but, we don't owe you support

mortal zinc
#

doesn't mean notch didn't make minecraft

golden gust
#

community can decide to not support you just cos your avatar has purple in it

brave radish
#

if you wanted to, you could also interpret that tweet to mean we should harass people who pirate it so they can do it but they feel bad

#

so let's not listen to it

mortal zinc
#

but seems he was rather indifferent about it, but I imagine he'd have the same position paper does in regards to whether someone ought to support someone's server in offline mode

brave radish
#

Well he doesn't even get money from it anymore so he's not really relevant :pepla:

mortal zinc
#

i'm aware of that

warm anchor
#

I don’t think your name is Notch so that statement literally makes no sense but ok

brave radish
#

/nick Notch

mortal zinc
#

but i still respect the guy for what he's done

warm anchor
brave radish
#

nope

turbid oar
#

Hello everyone good day isnt it? ☕

#

Lol

limber knotBOT
#

is that background at least transparent on discord or are you seriously using light mode?

turbid oar
#

See and even on pc I am

limber knotBOT
#

so it's transparent

#

I guess it auto-adds some gray or something

turbid oar
#

Guess it sucks

#

well anyways gotta go 😛

limber knotBOT
#

IRC will always get'ya! thinksmart

void void
#

irc

#

you mean selfbotting

#

runs

left swift
#

Ban that guy

#

Oh it's the summer host guy

potent fossil
#

Anyone know if zendesk will reopen a ticket if you reply after closure? (I'm the customer, just don't know if they will have a reopened ticket after I had replied to something closed 2 days ago)

#

It should right?

left swift
#

Perhaps

potent fossil
#

Ok, looks like it'll just make a new ticket

#

That's fine, nvm

lime oak
potent fossil
#

Thanks granny

void void
viral cape
#

yo anyone know if the bedrokroof break is fixed on paper?

warm anchor
#

Turn on roof dmg if you want to be extra sure no one can be on top

brave radish
#

there are known ways people can get on the top, just not break the roof

#

but, yeah, use nether-ceiling-void-damage-height in paper.yml if you want to stop them

mystic siren
plucky sparrow
#

If I'm not wrong most of the ideas came from jeb and they were mostly added by him

mortal zinc
#

sure he hasn't been involved with mojang for 6 years or so now, so it's not like he can be attributed to anything in the last 6 years, but coming up with the game in the first place

left swift
#

I mean...

#

He can be attributed to saying some pretty fucked up shit

mortal zinc
#

that's where he's earned my respect

warm anchor
#

Yeah and most sensible people will then lose all respect if you ever take just a single look at the shit he said

mortal zinc
#

yeah, and another angle with that is whether he truly meant anything of what he said but he's also quite a jokester

warm anchor
#

Some of the stuff he said will never be funny in any way or sense

#

It’s just a joke is some 12 year old argument to try to discredit criticism

little knoll
brave radish
#

leaf DFU in Paper wen

worthy geode
little knoll
worn ember
#

cant get offended if you dont open twitter zoop

mortal zinc
#

i think Notch is just a very frustrated person due to the people he's interacted with and his general level of happiness, so factor that into the mix too

#

i don't think it's fair that someone's livelihood is ruined because of a few things they said that offend people

limber knotBOT
worthy geode
vernal moth
#

depends on your workplace

limber knotBOT
#

depends on whether or not you listen with speakers, sulu and ^

#

not everyone is as prude as the US ;)

#

oof, my internet just died. wtf

warm anchor
#

Tfw we caught sulu using discord at work!

limber knotBOT
#

I guess vodafone did some maintanance or something

mortal zinc
#

i am displeased with everyone who takes the names of God and Jesus and uses them as curse words, and quite frankly I don't think the rest of the world really cares about that

limber knotBOT
#

also TIL that amazon is creating their own cloud gaming service... because that turned out so good for google lol

mortal zinc
#

i never really voice my thoughts either because i don't think anyone will take them seriously

#

or i don't know how anyone would react if I do criticize

worthy geode
#

Opinions differ, I don't think either of those person exists so that doesn't matter. But, probably #politics territory

mortal zinc
#

sure

plucky sparrow
plucky sparrow
#

oh no

#

don't cancel me

#

pls

mortal zinc
#

let me ask you something dap

worn ember
#

angry typing noises

mortal zinc
#

is it a choice when you get offended at something?

plucky sparrow
#

no

limber knotBOT
#

it's your choice how you express it

mortal zinc
#

so you don't choose to be offended at something

plucky sparrow
#

Exactly, but you don't get to pick whether it offends you or not

limber knotBOT
#

the good thing about the internet: it should be really easy to just take a step back and think about it before reacting

worn ember
#

can we get #philosophy kappa

brave radish
#

should

#

should

limber knotBOT
#

yesh, should -.-

mortal zinc
#

yeah i agree to a point phoenix, i do react when people say something i don't like, that's true, but I choose how to react to it as well

#

as to whether i choose to be offended, I think it is a choice honestly

limber knotBOT
#

I mean I tend to react too quick to stuff too... but I've started to not try to get into certain discussions, at least hear cough politics cough

#

*here

worn ember
#

its only ok if you have the right opinion zoop

plucky sparrow
#

Look you're viewing this from the pov of insulting the guy you hate on school. The difference here is that Notch disrespected and offended a LOT of people by saying "trans women aren't women"

#

And that's definitely not a good thing

limber knotBOT
#

no, it's not

plucky sparrow
#

I don't get why you're trying to defend him on that

#

Sure, it's his medieval opinion, but there's no need to share it online

limber knotBOT
#

there is no need to share anything online

#

runs

#

but tbh: if you are the kind of person that is fine with hurting other people with what you say, by all means, say it so everyone knows that you ARE that kind of person...

brave radish
#

@ zzzCat I think phoenix is calling you out 🙄

mortal zinc
#

see, we as a society are getting to a place where I think saying, "Only women can have babies" is going to be transphobic

worn ember
#

you really wanna thread carefully when saying stuff like that here bruh

mortal zinc
#

exactly

twin lagoon
#

what the fuck is going on here

tropic flame
#

i have no idea

brave radish
#

someone said "Notch"

#

whole thing went downhill from there

worthy geode
#

1.6.4?!

brave radish
#

/stop

south matrix
#

wayback machine

tropic flame
#

unironically, NoCheatPlus

worn ember
#

i have a pet fly in a bottle

plucky sparrow
formal turret
#

what do you feed it ded?

tropic flame
#

yeah you'll probably only find NoCheatPlus for such an old version

worthy geode
#

but yeah, NCP existed back then and its decent

worn ember
brave radish
#

👀

brave radish
#

some of them will, some of them won't, no one really cares to test them

tropic flame
#

depends on how old the bug is in relation to when it was found

worn ember
#

things like that come from 2 directions, there will always be people who are opposed and who agree, no matter the content

mortal zinc
#

dap, do you believe we have free will?

plucky sparrow
#

If there's more people that are opposed than who agree, then you might wanna keep it to yourself

worthy geode
#

Which is fine imo, as long its a respectful discussion about the topic

plucky sparrow
mortal zinc
#

alright

plucky sparrow
#

There's just consequences

#

Might ruin your life for expressing your opinion online

#

It reaches the point where it's just about being smart

worn ember
#

or get angry people to squat your account every time you make post kek

limber knotBOT
#

free will 😅

tropic flame
#

hot take: saying your opinion shouldn't render you jobless if it has no relation to your job at all

limber knotBOT
#

pretty sure it's been proven that free will is an illusion lmao

mortal zinc
#

i'm not going to ruin someone elses life for making comments when I know nothing about the reasons they said such a thing, and the internet is not the right place to understand where they are in life that brought them to saying those comments

worthy geode
worn ember
#

sure, but if you post them online they're there for people to judge

tropic flame
plucky sparrow
#

Yeah

tropic flame
#

even if you find the person a piece of shit they still have a right to live and that includes having money to feed themselves and their family

worthy geode
#

hot take: having a job shouldn't be required to live (or to feed a family)

tropic flame
#

(if you think they shouldn't live though, then we'll be opening a whole other precedent)

plucky sparrow
#

The thing is that they might be hurting other people's lives by saying those comments

mortal zinc
#

btw you can offend me all you want dap, or try to. I'm not going to try to cancel you, nor do I think anyone should do the same either

plucky sparrow
#

I won't offend no one because it's not a right or smart thing to do

mortal zinc
#

i'm called to love my neighbor, even if they are my enemy, which is actually my desire, it's the greatest thing I think I can do for someone else

worn ember
plucky sparrow
#

so you love your neighbour but he's your enemy

limber knotBOT
#

s/health care/social security

#

Correction, <DiscordBot> <02DarkEyeDragon #BringBackMemes> congrats, you just invented social security 😉

tropic flame
#

it's all social measures

limber knotBOT
#

s/social security/communism!!!11 >:(

#

Correction, <DiscordBot> <02DarkEyeDragon #BringBackMemes> congrats, you just invented communism!!!11 >:( 😉

#

runs

worn ember
#

oh now we're all suddenly experts

worthy geode
worn ember
#

call it obama care

plucky sparrow
#

Somehow the US will always find bad stuff in nice things

tropic flame
#

"b-but if people don't get money, they will be lazy and not productive!! human nature amirite!!!"

worthy geode
#

But people making money from minecraft plugins! /s

vestal jasper
#

ok I wouldn't call my OSS habits "productive"

worn ember
mortal zinc
#

i try to dap, yeah, but it's not always easy for me, especially with people i've had not so great experiences with, but i try to do that

plucky sparrow
#

Conclusion: humans are dumb and should be eradicated

plucky sparrow
worthy geode
plucky sparrow
#

Hating sometimes is good

tropic flame
#

i mean look at where evolution took us

left swift
#

Nowhere

tropic flame
#

even from the start, we lived in tribes

worn ember
plucky sparrow
#

Jealousy

tropic flame
plucky sparrow
#

Honestly if there was no jealousy the world would be so much better

worn ember
#

and as with most animals, own life first, would you suffer for someone else? Die in their stead? When thats the case we'll talk again 😉
sure there are exceptions to the rule, but the majority of people would not help someone if it would put themself in harms way

mortal zinc
#

@plucky sparrow i never hate the person, only the things they do, I find that to be a much more logical approach to life

plucky sparrow
#

Why not hate the person and the things they do

#

If he's doing those bad things then he's bad too

tropic flame
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not always

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when put as simply as that, not always

mortal zinc
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do I hate a son by lying to me when he was influenced by his father to lie? shouldn't I hate the father instead?

worthy geode
brave radish
worn ember
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how so

brave radish
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would you die for someone in danger? and would you die for any given person in danger are very different

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(actually they're less different in my sentence but I was paraphrasing)

worn ember
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someone can refer to anyone tho?

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i'm no native english speaker so idk

plucky sparrow
brave radish
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It can, but

would you suffer for someone else?
Yes, I would suffer for someone else
would you suffer for anyone else?
No, I would not

plucky sparrow
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However a person not influenced by anything and acting on their own and what they think is good is responsible for their actions

mortal zinc
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and yes by this logic i don't hate Hitler, I just sympathize with everyone who does not like him, and I do not condone anything he did with the intention of destroying a people

void void
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omg how dare you mention the forbidden name

mortal zinc
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I do not think he was right, I do not think he was living by the gospel (he was Christian, but I think eventually left it and despised it), I don't think that is any way to live

tropic flame
# worthy geode I definitely agree with that. But you can still have a society that tries to fig...

To add upon this, I believe evil is not inherent to the human being (e.g. no one gets born racist, but rather they are taught that behavior). And if someone experiences jealousy, then maybe they didn't have the same opportunity that the other person did... which could've been outside of their control so it's not even their fault they were blocked out of that opportunity, and in which case it is a problem that could be tackled on in a different way, rather than just thinking everyone is inherently evil so therefore we should prove otherwise because if not then we don't deserve anything... or something

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holy shit i wrote a whole paragraph

worthy geode
mortal zinc
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yes very much so

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condemn them all the way to hell and back

tropic flame
plucky sparrow
worthy geode
worn ember
plucky sparrow
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truth

worn ember
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those are all subjective

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your truth might differ from mine

worthy geode
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quite a lot of things can be proven

worn ember
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true, but equally as much cant

worthy geode
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sufficiently at least, with like 99% confidence

plucky sparrow
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Some aspects can't have different truths, even if people try to make them up (such as flat earthers)

mortal zinc
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@tropic flame even in the evolutionary model I think there had to be the first human, so where did they get jealousy from?

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an ape??

worthy geode
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Animals show jealousy

worn ember
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well theres truth that can be proven through science, and theres truth that cant be (mostly political related and based on your culture)

cosmic raft
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I don't know why

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but I get DDR vibes from this part of this song

worn ember
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you go RAMming about?

worthy geode
plucky sparrow
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So basically, if a person does something bad, it makes the person bad unless they truly didn't mean it or didn't want to (as being manipulated or forced into doing that thing).

worn ember
plucky sparrow
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You can't just say "oh hitler was a nice person, he just did bad stuff such as killing a lot of people"

worn ember
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i mean, he might've been a funny dude for all i know

mortal zinc
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i think he was mostly about committing evil

plucky sparrow
worn ember
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your ethical might differ from my eithical tho
here we go again kekwhyper

plucky sparrow
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worn ember
unreal quarry
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why is hitler always used? like, he wasnt even the worst person in human history :3

tropic flame
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i think people associate "as a person" with "yeah he was a nice neighbor he'd even cut the grass from my garden and stuff and had 6 beautiful children" lmao

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which is not all there is to it

worthy geode
tropic flame
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so it's just incomplete

plucky sparrow
worn ember
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he's the most famous one

worthy geode
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I doubt there is any metric to say who exactly was the worst person (the same way we can't say who is the best)

golden gust
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He's just stupidly popularised by media and history books

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There was a dude who killed a looooooot more than hitler

worn ember
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cat after eating 5 taco's

worthy geode
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He definitely is at the lower end of the scale of human decency tho