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wild fern
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I wanted to use eZ to clean Tab autocompletion and make it cleaner

nimble depot
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I am still on 1.12.2 so I don't have that problem ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ashen cliff
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I'm still on 1.6.4 and have no issues.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

potent fossil
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oh, win 11 is going to require secure boot? is that gonna fuck dual booting :D

ashen cliff
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Not really.

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Ubuntu can handle it already, so do most distros.

potent fossil
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Hmm ok

ancient bolt
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yeah don't think i would use a distro that requires me to disable it

potent fossil
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same

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was kinda getting ready to say goodbye to my games for good lol

ancient bolt
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I mean I'm holding out hope that soon I can only boot windows on my desktop and just use a mac

potent fossil
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(i mean until linux support gets better go proton go)

ancient bolt
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dependabot doesn't support gradle version catalogs - is there a dependabot-like tool which does?

nimble depot
ancient bolt
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secure boot is a UEFI spec

magic river
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Didn't Windows 10 64-bit require it already?

ancient bolt
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Pretty sure it did

magic river
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They don't require it be locked down to prevent loading your own keys

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And they sign the bootloader basically every distro uses anyway

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Only Windows RT required locking it down to only Microsoft keys and that died

left swift
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Hi brocc

waxen panther
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i cant wait to update windows and for it to completely fuck my grub again 😁

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heyyyyyy mana

ancient bolt
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and that's why my windows boot partition is separate from my linux & systemd boot partition & config

magic river
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That will definitely happen, Windows would rather err on the side of blowing away your special boot setup than have it fail to overwrite a broken bootloader and require normal users to do surgery

uncut moss
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why can't i post in #adorable-pets 😦

magic river
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Could they write something in there to detect it's grub? Probably but now you're asking for them to add something 😛

nimble depot
magic river
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Microsoft has required Secure Boot on all x86 systems since Windows 8

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I thought it was 64-bit only but nope, if you boot via UEFI it has to have Secure Boot

potent fossil
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I mean, all I was saying is does it need to be on. For 8 and 10 it did not need to be on, as I had it off for a looooong time and used those windows versions fine while dbooting

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but for the record im not dual booting anymore and it is on

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so whatever

nimble depot
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I currently run Tri-boot (Win10, Slackware and Win7 or a hobby OS we are working on)

magic river
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Apparently Microsoft screwed up and the master private key for their Windows RT systems got out

potent fossil
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i just don't have the energy for that anymore. I've got windows w/ WSL and my macbook and some laptops sitting around that I can throw linux on if i need it

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i used to dual and tri boot but not anymore

magic river
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The people who got it didn't release the key though, just a binary signed with it

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Doesn't matter, that whole platform died

cosmic raft
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people were posting photos of dogs

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so i restricted it

uncut moss
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😦

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aw

potent fossil
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good, it's better as a curated channel of trusted posters

cosmic raft
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you have access now

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don#t disappoint

potent fossil
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open it and it'll be like #gifs-and-memes peepoSick

uncut moss
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i have 23 cats currently so i have plenty of things to post

cosmic raft
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o.o

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peppis is the cat lady confirmed

uncut moss
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well my mom is

uncut moss
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yeah

potent fossil
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You have to post every single one of them

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Just so you know

uncut moss
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i don't even know which one's which

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and 17 of them are kittens and i only know the name of one of them

celest ridge
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wtf

potent fossil
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Sounds like a personal problem to me

celest ridge
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how is your family able to home all those cats?

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big house?

uncut moss
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relatively

celest ridge
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ic...

potent fossil
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I mean, given a home and food, cats will pretty much socialize and chill out amongst themselves

uncut moss
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yeah they don't really need a lot of space

potent fossil
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I have 4 cats and they all lay on top of each other on a chair

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I mean literally on top of each other

celest ridge
potent fossil
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Next time I catch them doing it I will lol

celest ridge
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our cat is on a diet

celest ridge
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i cant imagine managing a diet for more than 2 cats

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i guess u can just put out a huge bowl and let every cat eat when they want

vernal moth
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Golden keys

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Wtf

celest ridge
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but im pretty sure my cat would become fat

magic river
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Oh, I see, they didn't leak the actual key just had a bug in their bootloader

uncut moss
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depends on the cat and what kind of food it is

magic river
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I misread it

potent fossil
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They have automated bowls where you stick a rfid chip on their collar and when they walk up to it, it can dispense the correct amount of food for the individual cat

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only problem would be getting one cat to eat at a time PepeLa

uncut moss
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but cats usually don't overeat like dogs will with unlimited food

magic river
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You can make the bootloader boot whatever you want due to the bug and they can't revoke permission for that bootloader to work since it'd brick install discs and such

celest ridge
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my cat somehow did

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he got fat :x

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thats why hes on a diet

potent fossil
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He's probably eating somewhere else then

celest ridge
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hes 100% indoors

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hes also super picky

potent fossil
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Never ever ever goes outside ever, and you never ever take your eyes off of him ever?

celest ridge
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so there is 0 chance he's getting food elsewhere

potent fossil
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If not, then he's likely eating something else PepeLa

celest ridge
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i mean he wont eat anything

potent fossil
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Cats are VERY sneaky

celest ridge
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cept his cat food

potent fossil
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shrug_animated ok

celest ridge
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i tried to give him different foods

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he'd sniff it

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and just walk away

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he doesnt even like most cat food

potent fossil
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alright

celest ridge
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we tried 4 different foods before we found one he tolerated

potent fossil
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cool

celest ridge
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he's currently losing like half a pound a month

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which is really slow but at least its progress

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currently like 16 pounds out of 14 for target

celest ridge
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we don't go to that vet for a reason :x

potent fossil
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literally no need to ping me, i am right here

uncut moss
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i don't think we've ever had a fat cat even if there's always food available for them

celest ridge
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sorry, wasn't meant to be a ping. It was meant to be a response to a specific message

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discord doesnt have slack threads

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:x

potent fossil
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🤷‍♂️ anyway im gonna go work on stuff, peace

celest ridge
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cya

celest ridge
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oh

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wtf

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i didnt even know that was a feature, thx

potent fossil
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i wish that was off by default and you click to ping

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it's just so obtuse but whatever

celest ridge
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i think people have different tolerances to pings

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The devs prob just assumed most people didnt care

merry talon
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I mean technically I'm pretty sure letting cats eat whenever is not a healthy diet and kinda goes against all their instincts

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But most people don't care because it doesn't always cause problems

potent fossil
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people who used IRC before typically have a problem with it, because part of etiquette on IRC that we all took the time to learn when we were younger was not pinging somebody unless you need them urgently as we were quite aware it would buzz their client and we didn't want to bother them.

now that discord is here, all of that etiquette which was so finely crafted and followed (mostly) went directly out of the window

merry talon
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depends on the cat

uncut moss
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ours have always been free fed and we've never had problems

celest ridge
uncut moss
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pretty sure it also depends on the breed

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some overeat and some don't

merry talon
celest ridge
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Their cats also dont seem to like each other very much :x

potent fossil
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freenode has always been a flaming trashpile tho

merry talon
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I.e. ask a question, and then get pinged 30 times for every line of the dudes explanation

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true

celest ridge
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Never used IRC

merry talon
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Now it's just a pile of ash

celest ridge
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Well not true. I used it like... twice

potent fossil
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They were some really good days lol

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I used to spend hours just chatting in IRC

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Now it's just something to reminisce on. Oh well

merry talon
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still the best place to go if you wanna talk to a boomer

celest ridge
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hmmm

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isnt that fb

potent fossil
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I mean yea, lol

potent fossil
merry talon
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I meant boomer as more of a.. mindset

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than an age

celest ridge
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me2

uncut moss
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downside with that many cats is i have to watch where i'm going all the time

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they like to run around right under your feet when you're walking

vernal moth
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No irc hate on my watch!

celest ridge
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i only have 1 and i already sometimes almost step on him

merry talon
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you use a webshit client it doesn't count

vernal moth
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Discord is actively paywalling features now, the investors are getting hungry, this is the beginning of the end ;)

uncut moss
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one of our dogs doesn't even care if i step on him

vernal moth
merry talon
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Discord has always done that tho

uncut moss
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they usually make a sound or something but he just does nothing

viral hornet
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wtf

merry talon
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Money is the reason discord has modern features in the first place and not a 30 year old ircd

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Idk what you want lol

celest ridge
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is discord public yet

merry talon
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No longer? Threads are out now?

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no

vernal moth
celest ridge
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Threads have not shipped yet, and so everything in this documentation is still subject to change. At a minimum additional status codes will be added for reaching certain limits, and we may implement additional features, especially around moderation tooling, but we don't expect any of those to be breaking changes for what is currently documented.

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Sounds pretty alpha/beta

merry talon
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server boosts are kinda scammy, would be nice if the guild owners could just pay for those features

cosmic raft
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Someone help me decide

merry talon
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Instead of it being the equivalent of hundreds per month

cosmic raft
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Do I go to the mall in 34°C weather or not

potent fossil
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Is the mall air conditioned

merry talon
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do you have to walk

celest ridge
cosmic raft
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obviously simple :p

potent fossil
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Then ye go

cosmic raft
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only a little bit sweepy

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to the bus, off the bus to the mall

potent fossil
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The transition from hot outside to AC mall is a feeling that cannot really be rivaled

cosmic raft
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~5 mins walking roughly

potent fossil
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Probably my favorite feeling

merry talon
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good point

celest ridge
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imma miss sf weather

merry talon
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Do it

vast basin
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where can i ask people for plugin advice?

merry talon
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here is fine

potent fossil
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I live in a relatively small town and our mall is pretty much out of business. There are maybe 5 stores that are actually open out of the 300+ rental areas. It's falling apart. One of the 'stores' is just the movie theatre shrug_animated So no one really goes there anymore. It's on its last legs. I really really want to move somewhere with more...life. One day

celest ridge
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oof

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and the everything moving online is not helping

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at the same time sf is a bit too "exciting". Great if ur young

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I think I prefer a city but not too big

potent fossil
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My town is very much a "you come here to settle down and die" town

celest ridge
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ic

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The positive about those places is usually nothing every happens

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well its also a negative

potent fossil
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Lots of retirees living the slow life. It's fine. I just want more

celest ridge
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im moving out of sf to a slower city

harsh frost
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wait

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is this supposed to happen

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im tryna make a map and most of it is grey

uncut moss
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my city is slow af

lean kiln
harsh frost
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and i can't discover any new land

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ok

twin lagoon
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@warm anchor AYAYA

celest ridge
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i want to start a family at some point so slow is good for me

potent fossil
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If it's as slow as my town, then...idk about that

celest ridge
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well i still want a city

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so obviously its not gonna be as slow as a slow town

harsh frost
celest ridge
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wait map generation is client sided?

lean kiln
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no but the client can interpret packets how it wants

celest ridge
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like drawing onto a map I mean

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not the actual map itself

harsh frost
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is this a new feature they added or something

lean kiln
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it's server side

celest ridge
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oh ur saying the image send to the client is misinterpreted

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or maybe

lean kiln
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could be yeah

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those gray blocks are not actually gray though your saying? like it's not just stone and supposed to be gray

celest ridge
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honestly that map looks like a cross section

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and not the top Y

harsh frost
celest ridge
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its like taken at Y = some random value

lean kiln
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is that a paper server?

harsh frost
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yeah

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oh

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shoot

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experimental version

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that could be why

lean kiln
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I'm gonna test with the latest 1.17 build

harsh frost
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alrigt

celest ridge
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wait the xyz is displayed on the map. Is that a mod?

lean kiln
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thats his action bar

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plugins can do that

celest ridge
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ah

harsh frost
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oh that's supposed to be above the hud, it's a plugin called DefinedHUD

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it shows your coordinates, world time, and direction you're facing

lean kiln
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works like expected for me

novel horizon
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Don't you have some plugin that is messing with maps too or so?

harsh frost
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i do not recall installing any

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i'll check the list

novel horizon
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You have the same version as jmp?

harsh frost
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latest papermc, yeah

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1.17 experimental

harsh frost
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this is everything i have right now

novel horizon
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I suppose you give yourself new, clean map, and click with it and it shows like that?

waxen panther
harsh frost
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im gonna hop in a singleplayer world and see if maybes it's an issue with my client

celest ridge
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scary

harsh frost
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@lean kiln could you hop on the server for a quick sec and see if the map works for you? i can dm the ip

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if not, then it's fine

novel horizon
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u can dm me if u want

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i can check 🤷‍♂️

lean kiln
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kinda busy rn sorry

harsh frost
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oh ok it's fine

harsh frost
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@novel horizon just dmed

novel horizon
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sure just add me to whitelist

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or /whitelist off

harsh frost
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turned it off

night drum
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Does anyone know which plugin this spy is? is the tell messages

vast basin
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i think its essentials

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dont be mad if im wrong

harsh frost
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chat spy?

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im confused

vast basin
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essentials.socialspy

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does anyone know a plugin where i can do a cmd and find laggy chunks?

brave radish
vast basin
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in a good way or bad way

brave radish
brave radish
vast basin
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oh

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cringe?

brave radish
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mhm

night drum
brave radish
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oh not status

vast basin
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my server have it too

brave radish
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the "about me" thingy

vast basin
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oh

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thats from fly me to the moon

brave radish
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got that :P

vast basin
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Fly me to the moon, let me play among the star

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but it sounds like Fly me to the moon, let me play amogus-

brave radish
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I got the joke, unfortunately.

vast basin
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oh

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so its still cringe?

brave radish
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yeah

vast basin
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ok

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i dont have anything better than that

novel horizon
# harsh frost alright

so your problem is really weird, it seems like the map is, weirldy, already rendered even when i wasnt there.. and we found the problem, for anyone wondering, it was datapack for "1.18 beta"

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how it looks after removing the datapack for curious people

harsh frost
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yup, so that should be helpful for people in the future

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can't wait for the official 1.18 update

novel horizon
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The thing is, with the datapack, the map was also much bigger

celest ridge
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so it prob filled the map with garbage

harsh frost
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not really, it just messed up the maps. the world itself was fine

celest ridge
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i meant the drawn map

harsh frost
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oh yeah

celest ridge
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dammit i wish there was a way to differentiate between the map the item and the map, the like actual map

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LOL

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guess I'll just refer to it as "map item"

potent fossil
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that is how we differentiate them

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lol

novel horizon
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this conversation reminds me of this

merry talon
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i hate the concept of socialspy

novel horizon
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yeah i hate it too

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and i've seen servers where just helpers or some streamers would get it

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like wth?

merry talon
novel horizon
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you have some random streamer on your server and they have socialspy on?

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literally streaming every message between players, ew

potent fossil
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then why do you give random streamers socialspy???

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am i missing something

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lmfao

novel horizon
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i have no idea

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even if it was not just streamer

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it's kinda weird

warm anchor
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Well if the kids are younger than 16

novel horizon
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like when i look through some logs sure, messages are there, but like that? and even on stream..

potent fossil
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it's good for staff only to ensure nothing shady is happening in DMs

novel horizon
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yep

warm anchor
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You may get in trouble if their parent found out

potent fossil
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nobody else should have it

novel horizon
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sure

potent fossil
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it ain't a perk

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for me, it's very much so a CYA scenario and not a "hehehe i love to spy on my players" scenario

novel horizon
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I don't do that, I just look for chat logs in coreprotect or so if i really want to find something

potent fossil
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and for those that don't know, CYA -> "Cover Your Ass"

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Like eternity said, if kids are young and parents complain you have to cover your own ass that you did no wrongdoing

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Else hf with screaming karens and lawsuit threats that may or may not come to fruition

novel horizon
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i dont wanna look at chat because people are sending each other "hey u here?" "yeah" "i need this materials, i dont have any" "yeah sure just gotta go eat" and another ones like that

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99% of messages is just like that, so

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it literally just spams chat

potent fossil
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that's...

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ok whatever, im not going to do this stupidity

novel horizon
potent fossil
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literally toggleable and as needed, nobody forcing you to keep it on 24/7

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stupid ass arguments all around

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.

novel horizon
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makes no sense though, as I said, if i want to look for something, command for looking through chat logs for coreprotect or prism, done

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how can i know when to turn it off or on lol

potent fossil
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when you receive a report

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.eta

limber knotBOT
potent fossil
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Christ lol

novel horizon
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i dont mind though it's whatever, everyone has opinion ^^

merry talon
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Would rather just not know what people are saying so I don't have to be responsible for handling shit

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I guess it could be useful for like harassment

potent fossil
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"wahh streamers get it and leak chat" - dont give to ppl other than staff problem solved
"wahh it spammy" - turn it on as needed in respone to reports problem solved
"wahh its privacy infringement" - its your minecraft server and you need to cover your own ass. not a problem in the first place.

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its like, what the fk are these arguments

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🚶‍♂️

merry talon
novel horizon
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I was just saying that I don't like socialspy, its use is almost none, i saw someone streaming with it 🤷‍♂️

obtuse jasper
merry talon
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it is true that brazilians are the most toxic motherfuckers in any game

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not sure why

obtuse jasper
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I mean

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they're very toxic

potent fossil
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russians are #2

obtuse jasper
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nah

sonic harness
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Anyone use linux able to apply Java 16 to their system?

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Ubuntu or Raspian especially

novel horizon
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Yeah, most of people using it I guess

sonic harness
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I'm having so many issues trying to getting it applied on my Raspberry Pi 4

potent fossil
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download and install sdkman, then run sdk i java 16.0.1.j9-adpt

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done

novel horizon
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using raspberry pi for mc server
found your problem

potent fossil
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said nothing about mc lol

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but yeah if so, that's not a great idea

novel horizon
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he is asking about java 16 in mc discord

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🤷‍♂️

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what's the chance he's not using it for that lol

potent fossil
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lots of people just ask for linux help here

novel horizon
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paper also made some guide or so

merry talon
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I haven't talked about minecraft in this discord like

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ever

brave radish
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why don't you stop arguing and just ask if he's using it for Minecraft

merry talon
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usually random ramblings

potent fossil
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yeah shadow, pretty SICK how it includes sdkman right

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like i just said

novel horizon
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woah u are so toxic today

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chill

potent fossil
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not actually answering the question and responding with "ye everyone who's running it did it just fine!" and "ur problem is running on rpi"

actually answers

decides to link something after an actual answer was given

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kk 🚶‍♂️

sonic harness
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thank you for the help anyways

merry talon
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simple keeping it real

harsh frost
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how exactly does the papermc anti xray thing work? im trying to test it out on my server but im not sure whether i should download a texture or a client mod to do so

potent fossil
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Depends on the engine mode

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Which mode are you in?

harsh frost
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wdym by engine mode

potent fossil
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Each mode handles anti-xray differently

novel horizon
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engine mode 2 might be better, it takes a bit more performance, mod or texture pack doesn't matter that much, although some clients could have some seed cracker or so, but still

harsh frost
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oh ok

potent fossil
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The texture pack method/mod method shouldn't matter

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Engine mode 1 will hide blocks that the player can't reasonably see. Engine mode 2 will hide all blocks to prevent a mod from seeing any ore, even if they could see it normally

harsh frost
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ohh alright

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thank you!

molten bane
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when is 1.17 coming out and can be use in server

potent fossil
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.eta

limber knotBOT
potent fossil
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It is out but there are bugs and may be others we don't know about, so we need user reports. If you aren't ready to take consistent backups and be prepared for something bad to happen (that you should be able to recover from with ease) then don't run it. There is no ETA

harsh frost
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that's what I am doing

molten bane
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ok

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thx

spare torrent
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is there anyone who knows how to setup chest shop

merry talon
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I'm sure the plugin has its own documentation

spare torrent
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ive spent 12 hours today trying to figure it out lmao

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like ive finnaly made my way to the discord server

spiral robin
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Can you provide any helpful feedback rather than “it sucks”? 🙃

potent fossil
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Nameless is actually really good lol

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That it's free is wild

static badge
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hate u aber

potent fossil
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leaf's furry opinion doesn't count

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jk leaf is cute

spiral robin
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Wack

viral hornet
static badge
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stupid criminal go back to australia

viral hornet
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what do you MEAN

nova hatch
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.website

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.eta

limber knotBOT
nova hatch
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.links

brave radish
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are you looking for something or just looking for bot commands?

void void
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I like cheese

brave radish
novel horizon
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nice bot paperpet

ebon spindle
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what xp farm is good for servers?

novel horizon
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what does good mean

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performance wise or most xp

ebon spindle
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arent those the same? high performance means more xp?

brave radish
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As in server performance, making your server lag less

solid siren
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best xray setting?

novel horizon
celest ridge
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What do client side devs do to id something as a data structure from the server
Like what naming scheme do people use

ebon spindle
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i tried the classic mob spawner, but i found out that it is only effective in singleplayer mode

novel horizon
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what is singleplayer mode

brave radish
ebon spindle
brave radish
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Well that one is pretty good for xp

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It's also the most consistent

pale river
ebon spindle
brave radish
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Yeah

ebon spindle
# brave radish Yeah

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▶ Play video
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i found this, is this the farm u meant?

brave radish
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yeah that looks right

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Hoppers can cause lag, as can minecarts, but not nearly as bad as a giant mob farm

novel horizon
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idk, that depends lol

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if you make that farm with hundreds of hoppers and furnaces and such

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😄

brave radish
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it's not hundreds?

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oh wait I see what you meant ignore me

novel horizon
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yeah you can make it small too

brave radish
#

anyway, that specific farm doesn't use many hoppers anyway

novel horizon
#

like that farm is really meh also, really slow and such, if we could count xp/performance, then maybe it's not that good, idk how much it makes, but like enderman xp farm in end.. maybe it's like 5 mins in end > 1 hour of this farm and if it's gonna be bigger and for multiple people

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idk tho, just thinking about it in chat 🤔

brave radish
#

The enderman thing probably doesn't make too much lag either, that's a good point

idle token
#

i am using paper mc sever
in game i tryed to use duplication glitches but it is not working
why

brave radish
#

plus it gives ender pearls

brave radish
#

Dupes are bugs. Paper fixes bugs. Dupes are no exception.

novel horizon
#

if you are using it just for xp, enderman doesn't eat that much performance as some other mobs

brave radish
ebon spindle
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we still dont have access to end tho

novel horizon
#

you can "turn off" some fixes in the config, but it's just few

brave radish
#

oh yeah sry you said that I forgot

novel horizon
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yep it's fine I was just saying that

brave radish
#

the cactus thing is a good early-game farm imo

novel horizon
#

mobs in overworld would be faster too, or some spawners etc, but it would eat more performance

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but also be more faster

ebon spindle
#

i checked the video and it looks so complicated lol, i think im just gonna make afk fish farm instead

brave radish
#

that works

novel horizon
#

if u dont mind waiting u can just make few of these farms and go there sometimes

brave radish
#

feels really weird discussing the merits of different mob farms when I don't play the game but somehow I know about them anyway

idle token
#

dupes for @brave radish we are using dupes for powered rail

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is there any way

novel horizon
#

you can turn them on in config afaik

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.tntdupe

brave radish
#

.tntdupe - see if this mentions a config

limber knotBOT
brave radish
#

someone really needs to remove that embed lol

true canyon
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There, just for you.

brave radish
#

I meant in the bot message lol

novel horizon
#

👀

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Can you even do that

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If you send a link it will automatically create that

brave radish
#

yeah just put the link in <>

novel horizon
#

nice ^^

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didn't knew that

brave radish
#

lol nice

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that never happened

novel horizon
#

works

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nice

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kinda nice tip lol im gonna use it now

brave radish
#

I wonder if stonar gets pinged on IRC every time someone links that guide 🤔

novel horizon
#

why 🤔

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why the ping i mean

brave radish
#

IRC pings by name; gists have names in them

novel horizon
#

oh

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i doubt it does or maybe you can turn it off

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otherwise it would ping a lot of people that use irc right

brave radish
#

most clients probably don't do it if it's not surrounded by spaces but idk

brave radish
#

and then of those people how many of them are on IRC?

novel horizon
#

sure it's not a lot, but there are, not on this discord

celest ridge
#

is irc still alive

brave radish
#

unfortunately

celest ridge
#

😦

pale river
celest ridge
#

If we isolate all of the IRC users and throw them onto an island with no internet, they will not be able to raise another generation of people who use IRC

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and thus the problem will be solved

limber knotBOT
#

irc uwu

celest ridge
#

wew

austere ivy
#

i still prefer good ol' morse code and telegraph but hey, that might just be me

merry talon
#

i like when people shit on irc having never used it in their entire life

#

and thus have no idea why it remains important

waxen panther
#

unlike me 😎

potent fossil
merry talon
#

msn was god tier tho

potent fossil
#

I remember "buzzing" people or whatever it was and you can just blow up their fucking PC and it legitimately shakes their MSN window and plays a horrible noise

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jfc lmao

vestal jasper
#

@static badge gg btw

static badge
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wat

vestal jasper
#

new border

static badge
#

w

#

a

#

t

vestal jasper
#

overwatch

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level 1

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new border

#

THINK LEAF THINK

merry talon
#

plat border pepela

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just like his rank pepela

viscid wedge
#

IRC is fucking epic

left swift
#

Leaf is gold

brave radish
left swift
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Lucio main

brave radish
#

I replied to the wrong thing oops

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that was supposed to go to leaf's wat

golden gust
#

To think

#

many of us here saw that knocking one when we had actual CRTs and it made sense

small zephyr
#

So, am looking for a host provider to just host my proxy server. Any recommendations?

proud lance
#

you need to be more specific

#

where your server is located

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and where do your players come from

small zephyr
#

The server is in Europe and almost everyone is European

#

isn't 512mb of ram enough for a proxy server?

#

if so, I can't find any host providers that offer this amount of ram

golden gust
#

yes, that's generally plenty for waterfall, but, very few places are catering specifically for people to plop a proxy on it

#

really depends on where your server is in the EU but ideally you want your proxy to be as close to the actual server as possible

proud lance
golden gust
#

depends, so long as it's close enough the variance is likely not gonna be all too noticable

proud lance
#

like lets say you had a server in the UK, and had 99% german players, wouldn't it be a good idea to put a proxy in germany

golden gust
#

Depends

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You're still got client -> proxy -> server

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if you're sending people in the UK to connect over to somewhere in germany to the UK, they're gonna see a sizable increase

small zephyr
#

I am currently using Shockbyte for my proxy and survival servers. They're both located in London but I am planning to transfer the server to Dedicated MC buit I don't see a plan with fewer than 3 gigs of ram so I am currently searching for host provider to just host my proxy server there.

proud lance
#

well I would assume in this hypothetical there would be a Uk proxy as well

golden gust
#

Like, it's all down to routing and such for germany -> UK

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If your VPS provider has better network routes available to it than your clients have to the UK, then yea, there can be some gains there

proud lance
#

I personally like Nuclear Fallout's network a lot

#

but its a bit pricey

small zephyr
#

is this a good choice?

golden gust
#

I mean, pretty sure they're well known so should be fine

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biggest thing is to cater towards your area, e.g. if you're in east EU you don't wanna proxy over to the west, but, otherwise 🤷‍♂️

small zephyr
#

France -> Germany, that isn't really ideal? Right?

golden gust
#

shouldn't be too bad

potent fossil
#

omgserv is pretty decent but expect to speak french for support

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have used them

small zephyr
#

oh

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I know some french and with the help of google I'll make the most of it haha

potent fossil
#

they have 'english' support but it's community based. not a bad host by any means, but, if you need support ye

#

consider that

golden gust
#

if you're in germany I'd probs be looking towards somewhere in germany, but, no idea what alls available

small zephyr
#

sure, thanks

proud lance
small zephyr
#

can't really find one

proud lance
#

its weird to be german and go france back to germany

golden gust
#

germany to france ain't too bad on the network side of things but not super ideal given that proxies are kinda cruddy

small zephyr
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no, I am not german. The main server is located in Germany

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also, I'll be able to use waterfall just fine with omgserv, right?

proud lance
small zephyr
#

sure

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want the domain or the ip

proud lance
#

dm me if you want to keep it private

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either or, I am just doing a ping test

small zephyr
#

check your dms

magic river
#

Those system requirements must either be insane or be a matter of some feature they only started putting in things since 2017 and not performance

potent fossil
#

Get shitted on by microsoft

magic river
#

...or it's a bug and this email shouldn't have gone to me

golden gust
#

biggest thing I saw was UEFI secure boot and TPM

novel horizon
#

yeah kinda

golden gust
#

I don't know what year TPM became standard but I thought it was there for time?

novel horizon
#

but i guess tpm wont be 100% requirement

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it's weird and dumb

#

There's lots of people who doesn't have any, it's weird requirement

golden gust
#

Introduced in 2014

novel horizon
#

It's still rare though

golden gust
#

Yea

novel horizon
#

Like there's so few people that has it, maybe there are few with notebooks with them, but most desktop users don't have any, I'd guess it's close to 100% almost

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like 98-99% of people I "know"

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I could understand UEFI secure boot a little bit, okay, idk if it's necessary, but okay

#

TPM on the other hand is something that you literally need to buy or so

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"a lot of modern cpus", well, idk, there's lots of them who doesn't have it

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and also their requirements are version 2.0+

golden gust
#

jesus

novel horizon
#

I think like intel ones have some like that?

golden gust
#

A glance at the company's flagship Surface Studio 2 (starting at a mere £3,549) shows an Intel Core i7-7820HQ lurking within the chassis, meaning that at time of writing it is not on the guest list as far as the Windows Processor Requirements are concerned.

novel horizon
#

lol

#

finally reason for people to install linux? haha

#

well there's still a lot of time, win 10 gonna be supported until like oct 2025 or so

bright pollen
#

most people will stick to W10

warm anchor
#

People won’t stop using it until 2035 dotn worry

golden gust
#

Yea, but it's pretty brutish to just throw out what is basically a good share of their setup

novel horizon
#

I was looking and I know my motherboard can have tpm, you can get one for like 10-15$, but still

golden gust
#

Like, people knock on apple for the 5 year line they tend to support

potent fossil
#

I'd have to upgrade my processor to go to 11. Bleh. I've been wanting to do a rebuild anyway. My parts are aging, but still work fine. 6700K and GTX 1080

novel horizon
#

idk about it that much, tpm is kinda new to me

golden gust
#

TPM has been around for a gooooood long time

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But, there was never a huge drive for it to be thrown into consumer machines

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at least, afaik

novel horizon
#

i was reading intel cpus kinda have tpm, but it showed it's not tpm-ready, so idk..

golden gust
#

On business machines it's been the typical for years

novel horizon
#

yeah that's the thing

warm anchor
#

I will stick with my 10 and see what other people said first PepeLa

novel horizon
#

and it's not surprising

#

not a lot of people need that

bright pollen
#

intel CPUs made after 2018 all have TPM

golden gust
#

Well, it's something you need to enable manually in the bios if the CPU supports it afaik

novel horizon
#

yep but I think it should show if it's capable of it

#

I was guessing that "tpmready" means if it's available at all, idk

#

lol

bright pollen
#

if you type in tpm.msc in Windows search, it should show whether you have it or not

novel horizon
#

"almost every cpu made in last 5-7 years have tpm"

bright pollen
#

ye

novel horizon
potent fossil
#

tpm is a module on the motherboard i thought

#

not on the processor

novel horizon
#

yeah

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that's the thing, i was reading intel has it tho

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not amd

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so idk

potent fossil
#

support for it has been in the processor for much longer than 5-7 years tho, as corporate has been using bitlocker for ages

novel horizon
#

yeah, for sure

bright pollen
novel horizon
#

but normal users like never almost lol

#

I'll go look into my bios for fun

serene bolt
#

https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

useful utility for seeing what exactly you pass / fail on for the requirements, since the official tool is awful at providing any useful information

GitHub

Detection Script to help identify why your PC isn't Windows 11 ready - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

bright pollen
#

i heard that W11 has performance gains over W10

serene bolt
#

the cpu gen requirements and tpm 2.0 requirement is pretty bs if I'm being honest, that's just gonna lead to people hanging onto old operating systems again like XP and 7

potent fossil
#

apparently its just my old gen cpu (got a ?) and my tpm aint activated

#

gonna go bios diving, im not sure if i even have one

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lmao

sharp sentinel
#

W11 has a better thread scheduler for uneven CPU cores

#

Only useful if you have a CPU with a big-little design, which vendors are working on

serene bolt
#

TPM requirement is easily bypassed for now since only bitlocker & windows hello really uses it, but if they start making core components require the TPM than a bypass isn't going to work at some point

novel horizon
#

I think I have it. But still

magic river
#

I'm only still using my 7600K and 1070 because this is the last year for AM4 and GPUs are impossible to buy

#

I'm probably going to end up with an AM5 system but still have the 1070 lol

#

But yeah, apparently I don't have TPM at all, might have turned it off in my UEFI config though

void void
#

Why is memes closed?

novel horizon
#

It is kinda weird anyway. I guess if most of CPUs support it from the last few years, okay, but it will confuse a lot of people

magic river
#

Fun fact, apparently when I go in to my UEFI settings it doesn't turn either one of my monitors on

potent fossil
#

Alright I don't have a tpm on my board at all lmao, so whatever

novel horizon
#

Okay, so, if I turn on TPM in my BIOS, computer won't boot. Lol.

serene bolt
#

I swear TPM is disabled by default for most people who have it as well, that's gonna lead to so many bios setting change support center calls

#

just a mess

novel horizon
#

Yeah, definitely

#

It is weird

serene bolt
#

I can understand them requiring it for OEMs and all new systems having to meet all of the requirements but for general upgrades it seems like there's a lot of reliance on the user having a perfect environment and that's unreasonable

novel horizon
#

Well, okay then

#

Nevermind

#

I turned it on in bios and it just works

sharp sentinel
#

Lmao the tpm windows management screen BSODs Windows for me with TPM enabled

novel horizon
#

And I have 3900X, 2019 year

#

I guess older cpus have that too

sharp sentinel
#

also 3900x

novel horizon
#

It is really confusing though

#

First time when I saw that I was like wth I need to buy tpm for win 11?

sharp sentinel
#

AFAICT the non-Ryzen 3 2xxx series has TPM as well

#

Ryzen 1xxx is a ? and Ryzen 3 2xxx is a ?

novel horizon
#

If like 99% cpus from last 5+ years have tpm, okay, but still

#

so many confusions about it suddenly

ashen cliff
#

INB4 some random Russians write a virtual TPM driver.

novel horizon
#

lol

#

maybe

potent fossil
#

inb4 it turns out krusic does it instead

novel horizon
#

I would expect that there will be some workaround though, as always

sharp sentinel
#

TPM is a BIOS-level security validation system

#

A driver couldn't really replicate it

potent fossil
#

That's what I thought too but someone here told me it can be contained entirely in the CPU

#

🤷‍♂️ idk

sharp sentinel
#

The problem is that requiring it will let MS make more use of it. If Windows starts requiring valid TPM for core functionality, a workaround becomes impossible

novel horizon
#

yeah

ashen cliff
#

It still requires a driver to communicate.

sharp sentinel
#

If TPM could be easily bypassed via a driver etc, TPM is useless

novel horizon
#

still it's gonna be a lot of complicated things

magic river
#

Yeah I'm just not allowed in to my UEFI settings

#

I guess I have to plug in to my otherwise disabled internal GPU for it?

void void
#

React to this message if you use papermc

potent fossil
#

No.

ashen cliff
#

You couldn't use the driver to bypass an existing chip without knowing it secret. So it wouldn't be useless.

magic river
#

eww even after a restart my taskbar is fucked

#

It's even worse now, before it was corrupted now it's just gone

#

I have no clock or system tray

#

Oh wow and it's not a rendering bug, I can right click in that area and it brings up the menu for if you right click a blank spot

novel horizon
#

after turning it on it shows everything right 🤷‍♂️

#

but for literally anyone who doesnt know what bios is or so, damn, there'll be a LOT of people asking about everything like that etc

magic river
#

What's a BIOS? 😛

ashen cliff
#

Or just use existing vTPM. kekwhyper

magic river
#

(they haven't been a thing for like a decade)

novel horizon
#

you know what i mean 😉

#

Always BIOS in my heart mcheart

magic river
#

I've been trying to stop myself from doing that one, it's confusing for people having something called by multiple names, especially when googling one of them might get them outdated information

novel horizon
#

People get confused even when you say the right things for everything

ashen cliff
#

Motherboard settings.

novel horizon
#

Yep

wispy blade
#

@ashen cliff good morning bro!

novel horizon
#

What is sad though, what MS said about windows 11, a lot of people buying TPM chips like crazy and a lot of other people - scums - increase the price just like that

wispy blade
#

tpm are so goddamn useless lmao

#

so easy to wipe them/disable them

novel horizon
#

Doesn't mean they are bad and not helpful

#

Nothing is 100%

potent fossil
novel horizon
#

oh sorry ^^

wispy blade
#

ngl he does look like a janitor

magic river
#

I think either my UEFI just doesn't support a high enough mode my monitors will run at or it's broken

#

I'd plug in an old 1080p monitor to try it out but I can't find the power cord

#

Tried to connect to the internal GPU, still no output

#

Nothing goes to the monitors until the nvidia GPU driver takes over, I get no boot splash or anything either

#

On the plus side my taskbar appears to be fixed

#

Just had to unplug the monitor while Windows was running so it'd recalculate where everything should be, I guess

wispy blade
#

nice

celest quarry
#

Is Travertine > Waterfall or Waterfall > Travertine?

wispy blade
#

travertine is dead

#

it's waterfall with 1.7 support basically

limber knotBOT
#

we do a little epic

#

so what's popping on this saturday morning

potent fossil
#

absolutely nothing at all

#

Please wait approximately 1-3 hours and something will happen

limber knotBOT
#

poggies

#

nose is stuffed so going to badminton practice would be a bad idea

#

i don't wanna be panting for 2 hrs straight

celest ridge
#

im going kayaking today 😮

ashen cliff
#

Legit, just spend 30 minutes trying to reset a smart switch configuration.

#

Very epic switch.

limber knotBOT
#

but did you succeed bro?

ashen cliff
#

It's bricked now.

#

So... yeah.

limber knotBOT
#

F in the chat.

untold copper
#

f

limber knotBOT
#

ok but epicurus' ideas kinda swag

#

ideas regarding ethics*

#

ugh i wanna buy an iglooghost album but they're like €10+

ashen cliff
#

Snoopa, how was the move?

vernal moth
#

Man, my team on this dum biking competition is insane, they started cycling at 7am today

void void
vernal moth
#

At least we are second place again now

wispy blade
#

nice

vernal moth
#

With a 6km average lead

#

(meaning everybody on the second team needs to cycle 6km until they pass us)

#

But now I feel pressured to chunk in another 30km or so today

ashen cliff
#

That's like 1 hour bro. You got this.

vernal moth
#

Not on my broken bike, am happy to drive at a 20km/h average ^^

#

I also only cycle on gravel, I don't like fighting cars on roads

#

And my thighs burn like shit, and have been burning for days now 😂

wispy blade
#

no pain no gain amirite /s

vernal moth
#

That's the sad thing, I only lost like 3kg of weight, 1% body fat

wispy blade
#

1% is still something

ashen cliff
#

To be fair, cycling isn't that good at weight loss. I did 40km every day for 3 months, nothing changed, except that I got faster and faster at doing it. kekwhyper

vernal moth
#

Still need to loose almost 2% to get back to last year's status, lol

ashen cliff
#

My poor 10 year old bike.

vernal moth
#

Well, I also went swimming 1.5km twice last week 😂

wispy blade
#

<- hasn't really gained or lost weight

vernal moth
#

Yesterday my watch told me I burned 1700kcal while cycling

#

I went from 75kg to 85kg since last summer, quarantine is a bitch

wispy blade
#

it's ofc also about what you eat

vernal moth
#

9 months no swimming, most of the time no leaving house, not cycling to office, no running around to meetings in office, etc

untold copper
#

sad

#

i wanna do all that again

#

except in school

vernal moth
#

My avg steps per day in office is 6k, if I do smth with friends after work, I easily get 10k, right now am averaging on 200 steps a day 😂

untold copper
#

i dont count steps

#

prob for the best

vernal moth
vernal moth
wispy blade
#

my dad said he lost about a quarter naomi from 2020 to 2021 kekw (i weigh ~50Kg)

untold copper
vernal moth
#

Like, there was a time where I was 105kg, when I quit waterpolo after school and didn't do anything else, other than drink waaaayyy to much alcohol in uni

golden gust
#

I mean, it's data, if you're stressing about data you're doing it wrong

#

With my health and quarantine my weight loss efforts have shit the bed

vernal moth
#

Am not stressing about data, am stressing about my belly 😂

wispy blade
#

you might wanna cut down on the beers then 😔

golden gust
#

telling a german to cut down on beer

#

plz

untold copper
#

lol

vernal moth
#

There's like 1cm of fat left on my belly, after that you can see my six-pack again, lmao

golden gust
#

You mean the six-pack behind you?

untold copper
#

is this a challenge

vernal moth
#

But for that I would need to drop down to like 17% body fat, from the 20 I am right now

wispy blade
#

ez 💪

untold copper
#

challenge accepted mini >:)

potent fossil
#

ITT: mini flexing on us all

untold copper
#

i shall get muh 6 pack before you

vernal moth
#

My fav swimming pool is opening next Saturday again, so I wanna go there like 3 times a week

golden gust
#

You're doomed on that snoopa

#

Mini can just get one from across the street

untold copper
#

lmao

#

true

vernal moth
#

You also young

vernal moth
#

Am an oldtimer

untold copper
#

a bit

#

not much

wispy blade
#

everyone has fat bruh

vernal moth
#

Yoh weight 54kg there can't be fat

#

How tall are you?

untold copper
#

uh

golden gust
#

Cause of parents death?

#

got in my way

untold copper
#

around 165cm

vernal moth
#

Oh that's tiny

untold copper
#

i haven't checked in a while

vernal moth
#

Am a full head larger than you then, 187cm or smth

untold copper
#

most recent weight in 56.2kg

#

damn

#

thats a bit much innit

potent fossil
#

snoopa is my fiancee's height

untold copper
#

👀

vernal moth
#

Calculate your BMI to get an idea if that's too much

untold copper
#

yeah

vernal moth
#

But muscles weight more than fat

wispy blade
#

lmao im taller than snoopa

untold copper
#

everyone is taller than snoopa

#

I've come to accept that

vernal moth
#

And weight less? That doesn't sound healthy 🙈

wispy blade
#

nah my twin sister isnt

untold copper
#

its fine

#

i dont feel heavy so yes

wispy blade
#

i checked my bmi i'm still still healthy weight

vernal moth
#

Ah

golden gust
wispy blade
vernal moth
#

In a few days I'll be in the middle of the BMI healthy range for me again

untold copper
#

BMI = 20.6 kg/m2 (59%, Healthy weight)

#

this is fine

wispy blade
#

waiting for the weekend vc be like

viral hornet
#

Aren't you like

#

only halfway through puberty @untold copper

untold copper
#

yes

viral hornet
#

Don't worry if you have "a bit of fat" lol

untold copper
#

no

#

i shall get abs

#

its day #20 already

ashen cliff
uncut moss
#

not even a good thing if you have no muscle

wispy blade
#

no bone > no muscle

bright pollen
#

#adorable-pets 🍽️ 😋

potent fossil
proud lance
meager tusk
untold copper
ashen cliff
#

Fact!

meager tusk
ashen cliff
#

He got to impress Jean somehow. kekwhyper

untold copper
#

Thank you bro

untold copper
ashen cliff
#

I know bro.

untold copper
#

bro.

meager tusk
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Fact!

untold copper
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Idk what you mean but ok bro.

meager tusk
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We were talking about goals bro.

untold copper
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oh

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right

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smh

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in other news, I have joined the genshin impact subreddit @ashen cliff

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r/genshinimpact

ashen cliff
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Cringe bro.

untold copper
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bro what

ashen cliff
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/r/Genshin_Memepact bro!

untold copper
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this

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is not

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cringe

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.

meager tusk
ashen cliff
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Bro.

meager tusk
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What bro.

ashen cliff
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Good bro.

untold copper
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so many hot girls on r/genshinimpact bro

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not cringe

ashen cliff
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Bro!

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Next thing you are going tell me is that you found r/JeanMains.

waxen panther
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bro

untold copper
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...

waxen panther
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snoopa is 11

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he cannot be looking at genshin girls

untold copper
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lmfao

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thank you krusic.

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I shall now waste the rest of my classes in these subreddits

void void
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Ah yes, I’m going full Dutch mode

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Biking for 1,5 hours

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To get somewhere and back to home

wispy blade
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@untold copper next step is pixiv

ashen cliff
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Bro!

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Watch him become a full on p*rn addict.

wispy blade
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bro!

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pixiv is a terrible place

waxen panther
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wtf

wispy blade
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but at least it's not deviantart kekw

waxen panther
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pixiv is more than just that :(

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there is good art there

wispy blade
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yeah

untold copper
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yes lets go

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my computer table is here

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I can now setup my pc

wispy blade
untold copper
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how do people draw that good aAAAA

wispy blade
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they practice

waxen panther
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very cuut

wispy blade
waxen panther
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i need to get my new banner toobased

proud lance
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anyone use reliablesite for a host?

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considering switching from ovh

wispy blade
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i use monkegame to host my server /s

mental meadow
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dunno anything about reliablesite, but OVH is pretty good so unless you have good reasons I wouldn't switch

meager tusk
proud lance
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they have a 5900X processor package

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and DDoS protection as well

ashen cliff
mental meadow
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OVH DDoS protection > any other hoster ddos protection tbh

meager tusk
proud lance
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plus been looking at something in NY for slightly better pings

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but yeah OvH DDoS is pretty reliable

waxen panther
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@mental meadow AYAYARie

mental meadow
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uwu

wispy blade
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hiya aurora

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uwu

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hmm

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knen

untold copper
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eri chan in mha in its latest episode is cutest

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change my mind