I have a 50G plan. I store my phone backup on it too
#general
warm anchor
golden gust
my phone with 32G has 5G of space left
golden gust
I really gotta do a cleanup at some point, but, erm, am running low on storage space...
void void
my phone with 32G has 5G of space left
You use a fuck ton then
plucky sparrow
I have a 50G plan. I store my phone backup on it too
I had to get the 50G plan because deleting half of my photos didn't make a difference on how much iCloud storage I had used
lament patio
I really gotta do a cleanup at some point, but, erm, am running low on storage s...
1.3GB free out of 48GB here
plucky sparrow
lovely if you ask me
plucky sparrow
I'm completely fine with the 64gbs on my iPhone
void void
vernal moth
tiktok
plucky sparrow
damn you must download a lot of songs
void void
damn you must download a lot of songs
entire dutch top 50 spotify list
and some other full lists
like ''This is Aviici''
plucky sparrow
no but like it's actually fun
void void
I want FM back on my iPhone
wispy blade
i have 15 gigabytes of vaporwave do you want any?
void void
like use FM to listen to state radio
void void
me when i had downloaded the entire top 2000
vernal moth
I have Spotify set to download all my liked songs in full quality
Which are 1170 songs apperently
wispy blade
yeesh
vernal moth
See, I have been using spotify for a while at this point
wispy blade
i don't use spotify anymore cuz all the music i like/own is on bandcamp anyway
void void
> tiktok
I refused to install it for a while, until Apple came with a new feature allowing you to out right block tracking in apps
warm anchor
Best choice of your life
vernal moth
I don't care about the tracking, I said that for the content, lol
warm anchor
Since I can't run it natively anyway.
Wdym
plucky sparrow
I refused to install it for a while, until Apple came with a new feature allowin...
I've had it since 2019, you just need to adapt your fyp to your likings
void void
Wdym
I have a MacBook Pro with an M1 processor in it.
That's why I use MultiMC. Performance in Rosetta 2 is fine, vanilla minecraft w/ normal launcher.
warm anchor
Isn’t there arm based Java
vernal moth
Isn’t there arm based Java
Yes msft did that
plucky sparrow
I'm struggling to choose whether to get a M1 MacBook or a RX 6800XT
void void
but with multimc its better
warm anchor
Oh you are running the client
void void
I'm struggling to choose whether to get a M1 MacBook or a RX 6800XT
Get an M1 macbook
warm anchor
I thought server (?) sorry I am confused
void void
its a fucking beast
plucky sparrow
I really don't use laptops though
void void
it can basically handle everything cpu-intensive without the fan turning on
plucky sparrow
I'm perfectly happy with my Hackintosh for the time being
plucky sparrow
Spain
vernal moth
Don't get an M1 now
vernal moth
Wait for the desktop cpus
warm anchor
Always a better choice
wispy blade
"myes today i will log onto discord and recommend apple to literally everyone"
vernal moth
Don't use the laptop ones
plucky sparrow
or M1x or smth like that
void void
Wait for the desktop cpus
its 679 euros
plucky sparrow
"myes today i will log onto discord and recommend apple to *literally everyone*"
Apple is just amazing
void void
warm anchor
Apple is just amazing
True
void void
it's refurbished, but i can speak from experience when saying thats just new with another box
uncut moss
what does the cheapest M1 mac mini cost in US?
plucky sparrow
I really don't want to ditch Windows with an M1 mac
vernal moth
And actual usable amounts of ram, lmao
plucky sparrow
I still use it sometimes
void void
what does the cheapest M1 mac mini cost in US?
589 USD
spare torrent
i just joined and this is the first convo i see in the server.....i think imma like it here lmao
void void
it's $1150 here
which nation
uncut moss
sweden
warm anchor
How much tax lol
vernal moth
He is using refurbished pricing
uncut moss
or no, $1090
golden gust
wild fjortis appears
plucky sparrow
I'm disappointed on the new M1 iPads though
uncut moss
Core i5 one is $1600
plucky sparrow
Absolute beasts but not much you can do with so much power
golden gust
remember
plucky sparrow
on iOS
wispy blade
it's almost one tho
vernal moth
Apple be so stupid
warm anchor
Not yet 
plucky sparrow
Ehh I think you can use one as a computer
haughty pulsar
The iPad is a portable central processing unit.
plucky sparrow
depending on what you use a computer for
vernal moth
They don't make the iPad better because then it would threaten their macbooks
golden gust
Yea, it's just funny
vernal moth
And their macbooks don't get touch screens because that would threaten ipads
golden gust
for a few years they went crazy tryna let you know that it's not a computer
uncut moss
yeah probably
void void
The difference between a 2019 MBP and a 2020 M1 MBP is enormous
vernal moth
Just literally only care about money, not what the users actually want
uncut moss
if i could get a new mac mini for $600 here i probably would
plucky sparrow
I mean iPads are way better than Microsock's alternative (Surface)
golden gust
and now they're adding computer like aspects so that it can replace more about what people would do on an actual computer
void void
if i could get a new mac mini for $600 here i probably would
you live in sweden, schengen exists. Import one from Denmark or Germany.
golden gust
I mean, the surface is honestly kinda a joke
uncut moss
i've bought quite a lot of pc components from germany
haughty pulsar
has anyone bought a fully upgraded the cheesegrater mac pro with 2tb of ram just for a server
plucky sparrow
the surface is 100% a joke
golden gust
Like, you can tell MS really wanna tabletify their OS, but, they're stuck because people use the OS on their desktops too
vernal moth
The surface is a really neat device tho
void void
dont like it
warm anchor
Have you try windows 11 it’s completely free!
vernal moth
Nobody cares that you think that
haughty pulsar
Windows 11 looks cool
haughty pulsar
lets hope windows 11 is not a windows vista.
void void
Windows is the most popular OS for a reason
there is no alternative thats affordable and has all software
mellow quiver
who tf has 4636 moms lying around
golden gust
I don't really see how the surface is neat
golden gust
I mean, they got the tablet factor nice but otherwise it just seemed kinda meh
plucky sparrow
The surface is such a good deal
warm anchor
Ouch
golden gust
I mean, I've seen many people with them, there are some perks to the form factor and such, but, overall, idk
uncut moss
you live in sweden, schengen exists. Import one from Denmark or Germany.
base model was $1600 in denmark lol
almost half of it is tax
vernal moth
They aren't made for everyone obviously
They are made for ppl who actually can use them properly
plucky sparrow
The surface is such a good deal
MacBooks & iPads are way better for the price
void void
almost half of it is tax
welcome to scandinavia
vernal moth
Like, for taking around to meetings it's great too
uncut moss
only reason i want a mac is for making iphone apps
haughty pulsar
the Surface is very convenient
vernal moth
Tax is by definition not a scam and it's unfair to compare that cross countries
plucky sparrow
only reason i want a mac is for making iphone apps
just create a virtual machine if that's the only reason you want one
haughty pulsar
thats pretty much a description of the entire surface
uncut moss
you can do that?
plucky sparrow
yeah
vernal moth
You don't even realize what that tax all pays for
uncut moss
i thought it was some hardware thing
void void
Tax is by definition not a scam and it's unfair to compare that cross countries
I see 49,50% income tax and 21% as a scam since its absurdly high
void void
You don't even realize what that tax all pays for
I do
vernal moth
Especially in a socially advanced society as Sweden
plucky sparrow
i thought it was some hardware thing
i mean it might run like shit but its ok
golden gust
Like, having a tablet would be nice for just watching shit in bed and like, the fact you can attach a keyboard, I guess depending on what you're doing is fine
void void
Social income, roads, education,
haughty pulsar
wont there be hardware problems
void void
healthcare in some countries,
golden gust
Roads?
haughty pulsar
if you try to emulate mac on windows
golden gust
You mean potholes?
plucky sparrow
Why would someone get a Surface over an iPad or a MacBook (depending on your needs)
vernal moth
I happily pay my taxes, and I am in the highest bracket
void void
You mean potholes?
we throw 9 billion per year at infrastructure here, second best of the world
tropic flame
taxes also pay a lot of corruption that politicians do 
golden gust
you can run macOS in vmware but will have to look around, alsooooo, beamoff is a really nice app
vernal moth
(that in itself is a scam, ppl richer than me should pay more taxes, lol)
void void
i use the bike highway to get to the big city
uncut moss
my brother ran macos on his xps 15, i think that was decent
vernal moth
But why
uncut moss
no idea
plucky sparrow
I'm running macOS on my pc natively
void void
I'm running macOS on my pc natively
👀
haughty pulsar
Run a linux vm running a mc server in a mac vm in a windows pc.
plucky sparrow
works 100% fine
I'm not sure if you can say natively tho
why do people completely ignore the help channels
uncut moss
why tf does like a 2017 mac mini have 1600mhz ddr3 memory
wispy blade
blame apple xd
plucky sparrow
why tf are you looking at a 2017 mac mini
ashen cliff
2017 mac mini?
uncut moss
was probably late 2014
plucky sparrow
my iphone's coverage expired 😔
uncut moss
isn't ddr3 in 2014 still kinda shit
ashen cliff
DDR4 got released back late 2014. So, no mobile chip support even close on the road map.
wind geyser
There wasn't a 2017 mac mini lmfao
wind geyser
I'm running macOS on my pc natively
boy oh boy do I love hackintoshes
wind geyser
Aren't they like really easy on AMD now?
plucky sparrow
It still takes more work on AMD
wind geyser
and do you think hackintosh would still work when apple fully transitions to ARM?
plucky sparrow
yeah
As long as they keep updating their x86 macs
However, I'll cry the day my Hackintosh stops receiving updates
untold copper
Lol
warm anchor
Do you got small head or the pillow is just tiny!?
twin lagoon
@warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor
green tartan
wispy blade
wrong channel
broken rampart
is there a wrong channel for that?
uncut moss
i really want linux on my school laptop
quasi valley
is there a wrong channel for that?
there's only wrong channels for that 
uncut moss
make game engine in sql
golden gust
datagrip ❤️
plucky sparrow
oh it's disgusting
uncut moss
what does datagrip even do
plucky sparrow
honestly having to store data is just disgusting
wispy blade
.g datagrip
plucky sparrow
regardless of where
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.jetbrains.com/datagrip/
plucky sparrow
and how
golden gust
SQL ide, basically
uncut moss
does it make it easier
wispy blade
sounds like microsoft access with extra steps
golden gust
well, IJ has its own built in thing which does as much of a job
uncut moss
if datagrip makes everything sql related less of a pita i’m sold
ancient bolt
My day job is being a data engineer and in the morning I usually open datagrip before I open intellij, for context
plucky sparrow
what is the best way of dealing with databases in java?
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> <@!177150983258767360> <@!177150983258767360> <@!17715098...
Good morning michale 
golden gust
i just use Hikari straight up but may look into JDBI as it looks kinda interesting in some aspects
SQL doesn't scare me and overly abstract stuff like hibernate just seems like it has far more caveats than I care to deal with
broken rampart
heidisql is just so much better than datagrip still imo. plus runs great in wine.
uncut moss
never gotten into hibernate because it just seems more complicated than just using plain sql
unkempt drift
JDBI 
wispy blade
me, using JDBC:
golden gust
looks interesting but am macOS user and wine is a magical fucking PITA now that 32 bit is dead
plucky sparrow
me, using JDBC:
same
golden gust
hikari is a connection pool over jdbc
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@meager tusk hello !
golden gust
all it does is basically manage the connections for you given that connections aren't thread safe and does a good job of keeping them alive as needed, etc
huggles hikari
uncut moss
does jdbi handle connection pooling itself
plucky sparrow
I have so many ideas for projects but sql ruins them
golden gust
no, afaik, but you just slap it over hikari
uncut moss
makes sense
plucky sparrow
I have so many ideas for projects but sql ruins them
databases are just boring
void void
never gotten into hibernate because it just seems more complicated than just usi...
it makes things easier tho
uncut moss
I have so many ideas for projects but sql ruins them
same, i usually give up when i get to dealing with db, not really that hard just a pain in the ass and ruins my motivation
plucky sparrow
exactly
golden gust
biggest thing is getting experience with it
plucky sparrow
i was about to start a new project but then i remembered that i will have to deal with databases
golden gust
Like, a lot of sore points with sql is really just lack of experience
magic river
I thought for sure this was a bugged out title or an accidental test email:
Stream Live// wwFest: Unlocked YR//01
But no, apparently that's really what twitch meant to send me, it's a real thing
uncut moss
but then again i very rarely finish any projects, db or not
plucky sparrow
Like, a lot of sore points with sql is really just lack of experience
man i just find it boring
magic river
database design is kind of boring but it's also usually not a lot of work
And easy to change as you go, at least until you need to care about uptime
meager tusk
<@!589898090174218243> hello !
Is that MARI .
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@meager tusk Yes that is I!
meager tusk
Wow. Amazing. Thanks for sharing.
plucky sparrow
I used to create new methods for each possible way of modifying data (so setEmailOfUser for example) but I then quickly realised it's not a good way
magic river
looks interesting but am macOS user and wine is a magical fucking PITA now that ...
crossover office supports 32-bit windows apps on 64-bit macOS
They use a custom compiler to generate thunks for the whole API
minor badge
Wow. Amazing. Thanks for sharing.
You are welcome.
magic river
They're trying to figure out another solution that could go in to WINE since that can't depend on a fork of clang
golden gust
i was having some oddball issues with crossover since I updated, may have been fixed, but, er...
uncut moss
what can datagrip do that the intellij built in sql stuff can't
golden gust
it's an environment dedicated for one job
whereas Ijs is more focused on "in code" stuff
magic river
I think there are a couple datagrip only features?
But mostly it's just what the UI is optimized for
Technically IDEA Ultimate can do everything all the others can do (except perhaps debugging native apps?) but I'd still rather use webstorm
I don't do enough DB stuff to make datagrip worth using though
void void
same, i usually give up when i get to dealing with db, not really that hard just...
are you sure that you really need databases
uncut moss
bit annoying how intellij comes with plugins for a billion languages by default, feels really bloated
magic river
DB changes should be in code, not randomly poking at it
sigh maybe #gifs-and-memes will be better once summer is over
Right now it looks like my nephew's facebook feed
plucky sparrow
I used to use Java Properties to store data on my projects
left swift
*sigh* maybe <#508562150651068416> will be better once summer is over
Was the memes channel ever good
uncut moss
I used to use Java Properties to store data on my projects
or json
left swift
I say paper make a drama channel for the same reason that we have politics /s
magic river
It wasn't great and it got a lot worse at the end but it feels like it's at the same level now just without the racism
left swift
The racism just came with the minecraft update
magic river
There used to be like one or two things a day in there that were funny
left swift
Now that people are busy fixing their servers from using paper test builds the channels are moderately kalm
Besides the lesion of the help channels
merry talon
You guys struggling with sql just need to find a good ORM
no need to write statements by hand
merry talon
lol, I've been considering using that format as the default for one of my projects
nice and simple no bs
and its not a java project
void void
a see a lots of people overusing databases even if they are unecessary
"custom items plugin DATABASE SUPPORT"
plucky sparrow
That's true
"pvp disabler (database support)"
They just add database support to anything
merry talon
ideally it's not any more difficult to add external DB support if you have a good storage driver API
so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
void void
i think databases should be supported only if we need to get data from outside
merry talon
lots of people want to sync data across servers
void void
bungee network or website for example
plucky sparrow
I use FileConfiguration for storing player data
but it's not a big plugin so it's fine
void void
cross server sync is damn complex
waxen panther
It’s much easier to manage migrations and large data for developers with sql
autumn fern
what kind of render distance do you guys set on your servers? I have mine at 16 with 6gb ram. max 15 people. maybe too much.
i can always up the ram. i have 12gb in total
magic river
no-tick-view-distance could be 16 with only 15 people, I think
view-distance that high is probably going to be a little painful
autumn fern
yes lol
autumn fern
would more ram help? or is it a cpu thing
uncut moss
rendering more chunks uses more cpu
worthy geode
I had it on 14 (no tick) and 6 (tick) for some times with up to 32 players, works fine
warm anchor
I had it on 14 (no tick) and 6 (tick) for some times with up to 32 players, work...
32 let's go!
ashen cliff
64!
haughty pulsar
When the 21 tps is sus.
magic river
I run bedrock single player on 32 iirc
void void
Is this normal? Back when I used to own a server (I own one now just waiting for paper 1.17) I had 6gbs of ram and it was still laggy i don't think the server was using all the ram is this normal?
ashen cliff
Just DoS the player with chunks. Per player view distance API when?
magic river
Normally bedrock loads chunks super fast and is efficient enough to be able to load 4225 of them around you without a hitch and render them at a smooth 60 fps
But then it glitches you into a wall when you try to walk up some stairs
So close and yet...
haughty pulsar
run bedrock server to java instead of java to bedrock for more performance
stonks
burnt crypt
cant reproduce on Vanilla. Was able to reproduce on paper-1.16.5-778.jar, dont have java 16 in my apk yet to try 1.17. reproduction steps
Dont be in any chunks that are always loaded (spawn chunks), run /gamerule spectatorsGenerateChunks true, f3+c , go into a different dimension, go into spectator, wait 10 seconds, run copied command, go into creative. All chunks in your current dimension wont be ticking.
olive marlin
@burnt crypt run copied command - what command you mean? The gamerule again?
burnt crypt
f3+c copies a tp command
ashen cliff
The wait 10 seconds part sounds like the delayed chunk unload.
potent fossil
wassap
burnt crypt
The wait 10 seconds part sounds like the delayed chunk unload.
id imagine if you had that set to 15 seconds youd have to wait that long instead
even though this is unintentional behavior being able to be in creative in chunks that dont tick is quite useful for debugging redstone
ashen cliff
I would say, it's undefined more then unintentional. Also are you sure that those are even server chunks?
Since maybe the client chunk cache didn't clear and you are just seeing your cache.
burnt crypt
yes i can "light" a netherportal and go through it. Any blocks placed stay placed when leaving and reentering the dimension. I can go into new chunks my client hasnt seen before (new chunks still arnt ticking)
teal cedar
Is anyone here a Mac user that uses MS word? lol
I noticed if you try and copy/paste text from word into somewhere else, it copies as an image
Really weird, lol
potent fossil
i have a mac with word but i havent tried that
i can pull it out and confirm if you want lol
potent fossil
o.O
teal cedar
Copied from my project, lol
warm anchor
I noticed if you try and copy/paste text from word into somewhere else, it copie...
Try hold shift too
teal cedar
Does nothing
warm anchor
Cmd + Shift + V
teal cedar
Already tried that, as well as option
warm anchor
Huh
teal cedar
I just noticed it. Just found it weird and thought I would share haha
warm anchor
I know holding shift remove formatting so if that’s not it idk
teal cedar
That generally is it, yeah
Honestly though, I love my Macbook
Haven't had many issues with compat although I'm only using it for basic stuff
potent fossil
i love mac as well, i just dont use it much these days as it's my "on the go" computer and well
havent been on the go for a while :p
lol ok while im waiting for word to redownload, as apparently i didnt have it anymore,
wtf enjin is a crypto minecraft thingy now?
teal cedar
Has been for a few years
Pretty much died as a forum when Mineplex left
And then Mineplex also continued dying
potent fossil
thought they just did forum shit
teal cedar
When was the last time you saw an enjin forum
potent fossil
and he prepaid it for a year lmao
meager tusk
i just hope they get rid of all enjin forums
there's some stuff i'm not too proud of there
potent fossil
i mean i really wanted to use namelessmc but my friend was like "no. i know enjin better."
so whatever
teal cedar
NamelessMC also sucks
teal cedar
Generally I think forums for Minecraft are pretty dead
I just run a Ghost site with the user stuff disabled
Just a blog / help guide to redirect everywhere
meager tusk
Generally I think forums for Minecraft are pretty dead
Ok. Time to make hangar for minecraft forums
burnt crypt
graceful cosmos
Just downloaded the 1.17 latest build, is it normal that the first boot is extremely slow?
brave radish
not really
graceful cosmos
It's been taking 10 minutes to get this far
brave radish
yeah that's not normal
burnt crypt
ive gotten stuck on loading libs before, rerun it
potent fossil
magic mesa
Also use aikar flags
potent fossil
indeed it does make it an image
magic mesa
weird
potent fossil
and cmd+shift+v doesnt do anything in discord, there's no binding for it
weeeeeiiiiiird
but oh well
graceful cosmos
Also use aikar flags
will try to find em and apply
potent fossil
.mcflags
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
magic mesa
The site is quite slow, idk if it's just me
teal cedar
lol
potent fossil
oh yeah his site has been having issues uuuuh
magic mesa
java -Xms10G -Xmx10G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar paperclip.jar nogui
potent fossil
waxen panther
.startmc
magic mesa
just had it stored
limber knotBOT
potent fossil
ye that
graceful cosmos
thanks guys!
daring laurel
on what mc version is kb server side?
cosmic raft
you know
I really hate websites that don't allow you to ctrl+click to open a link in a new tab
and they just open it in the same tab
austere ivy
ctrl+click is legendary, I don’t know what I’d do without it
it’s always funny when I use it with people who don’t know of it, cause they’re like “no wait wait open it in a new tab”
and then they’re just like “wait what”
burnt crypt
middle click is where its at
graceful cosmos
are there linux experienced people here who'd like to help me out, or pterodactyl?
getting insufficient memory errors, but my node has 64GB
potent fossil
No one is going to help you 1-on-1 for free, and this isn't a marketplace to hire. BUT, you are welcome to just ask your question and let everyone contribute
merry talon
none of us know linux only templeos sorry
potent fossil
more than likely you set your server to 10GB or whatever for aikar's flags and now it's dying correct?
you need to account for JVM overhead
graceful cosmos
server 12GB, aikar 10GB
frank otter
man why does aikar take so much ram
wide chasm
@feral cosmos you're not banned btw
potent fossil
that's the point of his flags
the entire point of those is to actually use all of the memory allocated, and never let it go
frank otter
wait what are his flags
potent fossil
.mcflags
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
merry talon
frank otter
damn
burnt crypt
ive never been happy with his flags, my server runs fine without them, no point in adding them
frank otter
my browsers just decided loading a Web page isn't what it has to do
potent fossil
then don't 
merry talon
that is factually wrong but
potent fossil
yeah that flags page is kinda down
merry talon
u do u
olive marlin
Aikar page is broken for some time now.
potent fossil
.startmc
limber knotBOT
potent fossil
same flags there
olive marlin
It'll load after timeout in a minute.
vernal moth
Its just slow
frank otter
*wtf is
merry talon
a control panel
wispy blade
control panel with docker containers for game servers
burnt crypt
sounds like bloat
wispy blade
true
potent fossil
it makes server administration for non technical admins much easier than trying to get them all ssh keys and putty and how to attach to consoles and all that bullshit
merry talon
But that was like 2 years ago
wispy blade
dont need ssh keys if you keep a password hehehehe
potent fossil
.kill naomi
limber knotBOT
gets some friends together and shivs naomi a few times.
wispy blade
im not gonna put gentoo on a machine with an FX-6300
burnt crypt
heh, ive gotta i7 q740m and gentoo was the best mistake ive ever made
gotta love those 8 hour rust compile times
frank otter
im not gonna put gentoo on a machine with an FX-6300
put gentoo on a single fx-6300 core
burnt crypt
yea, be like me and forget to enable ACPI
unkempt drift
been getting this all the time recently in intellij and its kinda annoying when I want to read the javadoc for smth in the standard lib
uncut moss
how do i make intellij not do this with gradle
austere ivy
gotta put version = ‘1.0.0’
vernal moth
Uff lupin season 2 is out and there is no recap
How the fuck should be remember wtf was going on
woven furnace
Quick question, how does one gets the tag to post in #adorable-pets ?
wide chasm
By having an adorable kitten
woven furnace
But but i have 2 ferrets, a kitten and a cat
timber crane
I legit joined the discord just to check every few days when paper 1.17 will be available for my server lol. I’m going to stay though, this is a pretty dope community and it’s cool watching the developers work
magic river
How the fuck should be remember wtf was going on
wikipedia 
plucky sparrow
i thought you were on some themed crappy windows 7 but its just kde
Don't use contabo, it is absolute garbage
Like next levels of bad
but like really bad
wispy blade
kde more like bloatde
burnt crypt
de's are just bloat
frank otter
Yes
wispy blade
dwm any1?
burnt crypt
me
burnt crypt
woo my last 2 tag keybinds dont work for some reason!!!
vernal moth
wikipedia <:pauseLUL:308061294509162497>
Nah found a YouTube vid
worn ember
How the fuck should be remember wtf was going on
That's why you wait for everything to release and then binge it
wide chasm
"This is the last season"
season does really well
"jk here are ten others"
vernal moth
Ain't no time to wait for however many season and they do if I dont even know if it's good
cosmic raft
Jeez
I was talking to a friend who got a Nintendo Switch recently, so I was looking at games
they are all like $80 each, Canadian
wispy blade
classic nintendo
worn ember
potent fossil
nintendo is well known for expensive games, but i just grabbed a switch lite and honestly it's quite great
wide chasm
Yeah, all Nintendo games are full price
potent fossil
very nice for portable casual playing
vernal moth
I played a few games using emulators
wide chasm
Game builder garage is half I think, but, that's more educational imo
cosmic raft
Like really... $79.99 for each game
worn ember
Nintend
vernal moth
Not buying hardware anymore, it's 2021, specialized hardware is so 2010
worn ember
Apparently i still have StarCraft open lol
wide chasm
Indie games on the platform are generally priced pretty okay, but don't expect anything under full price from Nintendo themselves
Skyward Sword HD, we ported a Wii game and bumped it to 720p 60fps, now pay up!
quasi valley
or the 3 ported mario games at full price and limited availability
wide chasm
In general, I just look at retail stores for physical games, can usually find a place where it's 10 euros below msrp
That game is a joke on so many levels
cosmic raft
What game?
wide chasm
Super Mario 3D All-Stars
Limited availability, full-price for three games that were all at least ten years old
wide chasm
Yeah
But, yeah, then you have to pay up
Everything is full priced and Nintendo games rarely go on sale
quasi valley
but botw and smo are the only 2 games I'd have liked to pay full price for (out of the games I bought) lol
cosmic raft
smo?
wide chasm
Super Mario Odyssey
quasi valley
Super Mario Odyssey
wide chasm
I can type
wide chasm
Miitopia isn't full price actually, that's surprising
hard kernel
kash u know what happened to duck?
cosmic raft
?
hard kernel
his user like mtmm or something
celest ridge
cept the psvita :x
wide chasm
Well, for the switch you could also do it for portability
cosmic raft
idk
brave radish
Duck was banned New2PC; don't know/remember why
quasi valley
here’s my nice little collection :p
wide chasm
Nice
wispy blade
.wa 6*80
celest ridge
All my switch are none physical :notlikethis:
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Result: 480 - https://is.gd/3UwUAk
wide chasm
I think my collection is worth ~600 dollars (American)
cosmic raft
:p
hard kernel
shit i searched here apparently he is banned 😦
cosmic raft
A switch does look appealing though
celest ridge
who
wide chasm
Actually, not dollars, euros
cosmic raft
Since it has NES and SNES games for free, playable on it too
quasi valley
Mario Kart I received with the Switch, the other's I probably all bought for 5-10€ less off Amazon or a local shop
potent fossil
its a very nice little handheld, but yea expensive gamerinos
wide chasm
Well, you still need NSO for those games
potent fossil
(unless like kenny said you can get em on sale, which does happen)
cosmic raft
NSO?
celest ridge
im still sad psvita sht the bed so hard
wide chasm
Nintendo Switch Online
potent fossil
20 bucks a year
cosmic raft
$25 for a year? Worth it for access to that stuff
potent fossil
yea, i only use it for pokemon and animal crossing but if you want online access to games then you need it
wide chasm
I never bothered buying it, I'm never gonna play those games and the online service is trash from what I've heard
woven furnace
According to game eye my gc collection is about 2.7k cad
cosmic raft
gc?
woven furnace
GameCube
cosmic raft
ah
wide chasm
Welcome to abbreviation hell 😉
woven furnace
Aye lol
quasi valley
I never bothered buying it, I'm never gonna play those games and the online serv...
I tried it for a month for free, but didn't really enjoy the old games collection, and online I played too rarely as well
wide chasm
The only thing I would ever play online is MK8, but yeah didn't bother
Maybe they'll start doing Nintendo Selects soon and games can finally drop in price
potent fossil
the NES/SNES libraries are pretty fun, but not something I play for a long time
Donkey Kong is a blast to the goddamn past tho
wide chasm
But everything still sells way too good for games that are years old now
Yeah DKC is cool
cosmic raft
oh neat
there's a Nintendo Switch – Mario Red & Blue Edition
but sold out everywhere
wide chasm
Special editions are targeted by scalpers
woven furnace
Calm your drama down with gifs of cats and ferrets
wide chasm
And that one is relatively new, so, yeah...
woven furnace
brave radish
I actually did know what I just didn't want to start a flame war –_–
wide chasm
The normal grey and red/blue should be pretty readily available, though
cosmic raft
The normal grey and red/blue should be pretty readily available, though
Yea, but the Mario one looks neat! :P
wide chasm
Yeah, it's more colorful than the standard one
cosmic raft
It's also really stupid another thing:
Nintendo Switch - Animal Crossing New Horizons Edition
Does not include the Animal Crossing New Horizons game
wide chasm
Yeah
brave radish
then the inevitable question would have been "why"
wide chasm
First spend all your money on a console, then you can go and try to find more money for the actual game
brave radish
please stop attacking me because you're mad your friend got banned. Someone wanted to know how to contact them. I told them they were not in this server. End of story. Please stop.
wide chasm
I mean, considering this is Nintendo, they'd have just raised the price as well, but still would've been more sensible
brave radish
please stop attacking me because you're mad your friend got banned. Someone want...
.
🤦
ok bye
potent fossil
what
queen tusk
You're obviously a bit mad about your friend being banned, and likely biased about it as well, but I doubt they'd want you to "express your dissatisfaction" in #general
potent fossil
the fuck is going on in here
brave radish
I'm also now sure how the words "silent" and "anonymous" even apply but I don't even care anymore
worn ember
cosmic raft
?
next frost
every moderation action should be announced in #announcements
left swift
potent fossil
the fuck
brave radish
queen tusk
That tag was the most unnecessary thing I've ever witnessed
true canyon
!mute @olive garden 1d Take a break.
thorny flickerBOT
Invalid duration
wide chasm
gj mbaxter
true canyon
Commands are hard.
mossy vessel
Action has been taken
magic river
I don't know how a moderator action can be silent or anonymous when it requires a bot command in the channel
true canyon
!mute @olive garden 1d take a break.
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Muted Trigary#9185 for a day (take a break.) [3 total infractions] -- mbaxter#1592.
true canyon
There we go! 
magic river
It did for the case you're talking about, I was there
brave radish
So how about that botw sequel coming?
potent fossil
i actually have no idea but i really dont care, nobody is entitled to be informed of mod actions. if they share it, that's on them. but they set the rules, so you follow them 🤷♂️ if he broke the rules and got banned that's his own damn fault
anyway, time to do some dishes
left swift
Only halfway there
wispy blade
only halfway to 1.18 :)
magic river
Yeah, I feel like this is going to end up being a next gen game
wide chasm
I don't think so
cosmic raft
What is?
magic river
Or like the last few zeldas it'll be on both
wide chasm
Switch sales are going strong, no need to make a new console
brave radish
I don't have a Switch; I'm wondering if I should buy one or wait until it comes out cuz there might be a new one by then
(it being the botw sequel)
wide chasm
They have rumored a switch pro basically since the day the switch launched, so I guess it depends on how long you want to wait
magic river
First rumor I saw was for a Pro and a Lite and then they only released the Lite
wide chasm
I do feel they might be closer to one, since afaik they said for E3 that they would focus on games only - that kinda implies to me that there is some kind of revision coming
brave radish
are there any Pikmin fans here?
alpine hatch
no
wide chasm
Never played a game, maybe I'll grab three on Switch someday
brave radish
it's the weirdest game every but somehow good
*ever
The Switch version is multiplayer apparently; old ones never were outside of mini games
brave radish
thanks for linking (replying) that DenWav; I didn't even see this cute ferret
worn ember
wasnt a 0 tolerance infraction tho but that's all I'ma say about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
worn ember
Personally I didn't think it was that bad lol
magic river
eww that looks awful little
brave radish
Also, your hashtag is <:outdated1:684159539670679558> <:outdated2:68415953002771...
use mine
wispy blade
naomi, #ceo of #reading
worn ember
No.
wide chasm
#adorable-pets belongs in archived
runs
worn ember
Belongs in the archived section
wide chasm
Nice
worn ember
Oof
brave radish
@ chew plz ban for personal attacks against rory
austere ivy
<#506018400078659585> belongs in archived
*runs*
stef this is a very bad proposition and frankly, I’ll have to decline.
warm mesa
Wait, who is allowed to talk in #adorable-pets?
brave radish
cat role
wide chasm
People with a special role
brave radish
🐱
wispy blade
people with @🐱 role
ancient bolt
!ban @olive garden you were muted for a reason, don't DM me after the fact
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned Trigary#9185 (you were muted for a reason, don't DM me after the fact) [4 total infractions] -- DenWav#1989.
wispy blade
limber knotBOT
Ban what
warm mesa
I is cat.
potent fossil
amazing
wispy blade
CattBDev
austere ivy
Matt this is very good thank you
brave radish
Ban what
oh sorry I didn't know you were on IRC lol. Wait are you chew as in c-h-e-w?
mighty storm
Chew pings me on irc
brave radish
yeah I didn't know sry
mighty storm
@mighty storm pings me here
warm mesa
Sorry for it being so large. GBoard didn't let me control the size.
brave radish
anyway I said ban stefanschie because he said #adorable-pets belongs in the archive section
austere ivy
chew hello 
wispy blade
very cute emote
austere ivy
gotta get on IRC and set my nickname to “hi” my pings would be immeasurable
brave radish
very cute emote
looks like cozy blob
worn ember
Chewing on deez
warm mesa
I miss the Google blobs. On my old Moto X they had the best animated blobs I could send people over text.
Not like the new ones they have now.
worn ember
unkempt drift
still
brave radish
still for me
warm mesa
Weird. Stupid GBoard.
warm mesa
The blobs are the true emojis. All other Emojis are wrong.
brave radish
wait so if someone says they are going to go c hew something it pings a mod... weird (no talking about eating in Paper general or you get banned)
warm mesa
Grr. Stupid discord mobile won't let me use gifs.
worn ember
Pepo or riot
wispy blade
worn ember
left swift
warm mesa
Oh now it works. Quit taunting me with your gifs.
I have a skunk and I'm not afraid to use it. 🦨
brave radish
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559480823347281963/746492020171735050/7...
favorited
cosmic raft
ugh
I need to get a new backpack it seems
my old lenovo one has a small hole in the bottom corner now
anyone have some recommendation? one that will last -.-
limpid comet
is there ever gonna be a point where there's too many patches
cosmic raft
no
limpid comet
ok
limpid comet
what's the current number
quasi valley
more than 1
quasi valley
it was something around 800 server patches
worn ember
That you know of
limpid comet
just distribute source code!!! i have no fear for the law!!
restive bison
Okay so I think im dumb but is the a special launcher or something to play papermc?
Or how do I use paper to play?
wispy blade
it's server software
restive bison
Okay so then if I set my server to paper I can play with the standard launcher?
wispy blade
yes
harsh light
yes
restive bison
Thanks guys ❤️
harsh light
np
wispy blade
if you have any questions feel free to ask em in #paper-help
harsh light
yup
restive bison
if you have any questions feel free to ask em in <#289587909051416579>
Sorry didn't see that channel 😅
harsh light
np
potent fossil
@vestal jasper i got this recommended from Merlin the weeb wizard and it's amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yegdG8F8oM
(yes it's long but worth it lmao)
austere ivy
Finally some good takes
i only have good takes
spice pumice
I've been writing a maintenance script for my Minecraft server... I don't use it yet but if I did I would hit a snag I feel as the API https://papermc.io/api/v2/projects/paper doesn't inform me that 1.17 is still in testing...
austere ivy
<@!184165847940464641> i got this recommended from Merlin the weeb wizard and it...
joel haver is a national treasure. I love his style of comedy so much
potent fossil
it's not the APIs job to inform you it's in testing
austere ivy
it's just like. regular people talking to each other and it's hilarious
potent fossil
the API is there to deliver artifacts and version information
spice pumice
it's not the APIs job to inform you it's in testing
where should my script check??
spice pumice
the API is there to deliver artifacts and version information
where can I get the information for my script easily?
potent fossil
uh, it shouldn't? you should be setting a variable for the major version group and let your script get the builds based on that
what are you talking about
there is no API to find if it's testing or not. it's released, but we are depending on user bug reports. that's not something the API needs to detail
potent fossil
it's just like. regular people talking to each other and it's *hilarious*
yes
spice pumice
uh, it shouldn't? you should be setting a variable for the major version group a...
well my script does have the ability to just inform when a new update is out, but I would like it to update automatically when and if the version is fully released
potent fossil
it is released. but there may be bugs, and we are depending on users reporting those bugs
the API is working as expected
but this is precisely why we tell people not to auto update, and is precisely why they decided to remove the latest jar route
Because people were auto updating and crying when shit broke
spice pumice
it is released. but there may be bugs, and we are depending on users reporting t...
alright on the webpage it says "testing"
potent fossil
That's not what the API is for
spice pumice
but the API provides no info!!
potent fossil
Yeah, that's manually added there for people's reference. Doesn't come from the API.
Alright. I'm not entertaining this any longer.
wispy blade
hey simple i forgot to ask
spice pumice
Because people were auto updating and crying when shit broke
This script is made up of many modules some of which revert when something goes wrong
potent fossil
Ok.
wispy blade
does your emo cyborg OC have a name
spice pumice
Yeah, that's manually added there for people's reference. Doesn't come from the ...
why not???
potent fossil
Yes, simple
wispy blade
epic
potent fossil
why not???
Go make an issue on the bibliothek API if you want to make a case for it being there. But I highly doubt it will be accepted.
wispy blade
god i hate the ESL Commercial Break song
potent fossil
Please stop pinging me for every single message as well, I am literally right here responding to you
spice pumice
sorry
potent fossil
This is the download API https://github.com/PaperMC/bibliothek/
Make an issue report if you feel the need
potent fossil
god i hate the ESL Commercial Break song
the wat
austere ivy
Please stop pinging me for every single message as well, I am literally right he...
I reeeaally wish there was an option to set the ping-y thingy to "off" by default
potent fossil
Me too
wispy blade
E-Sports League
potent fossil
Mm, gotcha
left swift
wispy blade
and i've heard it about 200 times by now
left swift
Which one is it
wispy blade
dunno, nor do i care
potent fossil
Throwback to the imagine dragons song about toiling away in the dark honing your League of Legends skills
It bopped like once but now I cringe
left swift
They have some really bass funky songs that are pretty good
potent fossil
I wish I could use my subwoofer and shake my god damn house but people complain about it lmao
spice pumice
This is the download API https://github.com/PaperMC/bibliothek/
thank you I have issued it
potent fossil
okidoke
wispy blade
lol imagine blasting neurofunk
potent fossil
Had the cops called one time while I was testing the bass for a noise complaint
The struggles of living with neighbors that all collectively have sticks up their asses. I don't call the cops on them for their nasty borderline racist country music and smoke flooding cookouts they host every weekend but god forbid I test my subwoofer with a few heavy bass songs to enjoy myself
(I live in hell if you can't tell)
wispy blade
xd
potent fossil
Doesn't matter. Lol. They'd still do it anyway. They ignore the law when it's not convenient for them because they're white
ANYWAY
tired heath
!eta
potent fossil
I did when they were shooting off fireworks (it's too dry here, if it lands on any plants it will start a huge fire)
Dude got arrested, got released, next weekend lit off fireworks again
Lol
wispy blade
gg
left swift
Reminds me of that one tiktok guy that made videos of his really toxic neighbor and each tiktok was him doing some revenge thing toward them
left swift
Dutch judge Judy lol
potent fossil
vestal jasper
<a:shrug_animated:685225450175332466>
e
potent fossil
e
potent fossil
goed nacht (i dont speak dutch so idk)
mental meadow
potent fossil
.wa translate "good night" to dutch
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) No results.
novel horizon
potent fossil
k what the fuck is weltert3esduitnenesten then
nimble depot
Dutch is basically a heavily customized upstream fork of German
potent fossil
Dutch = weirdos
nimble depot
A lot of people confuse Denmark and Germany for some apparent reason
ashen cliff
Plenty of people.
uncut moss
muricans
ashen cliff
Just like Slovenia and Slovakia.
potent fossil
uncut moss
new discord interactions are great
except that when i restart it it takes like 5-10 minutes for it to start working again for some reason
potent fossil
there are new interactions?
uncut moss
slash command thing
ashen cliff
It's absolutely horrible.
uncut moss
api is kinda weird but how it works for the user is pretty nice
ashen cliff
Can't even do /shrug without 30 bots taking over and making it /shuffle.
potent fossil
lol
uncut moss
most servers don't even have any bots with that yet
brave radish
Can't even do /shrug without 30 bots taking over and making it /shuffle.
and, for some reason, everyone is converting their bot to slash commands...
like yeah, they're useful, but that doesn't mean every bot has to use them
mossy vessel
I like typing slash and half of my screen being filled up with command suggestions
ashen cliff
cosmic raft
because they give hints and stuff
ashen cliff
ashen cliff
But doing that also disables preview for markdown... aka forcing you to enable it back to get old functionality.
left swift
muricans
I doubt it people are taught the world wars in american schools like gospel so you would assume they know the difference
warm mesa
I like slash commands that provide suggestions. I wouldn't know that all these commands exist if it didn't suggest them for me.
novel horizon
Just like Slovenia and Slovakia. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
well I guess it's in different languages.. Like in mine, although I know the difference, because Slovakia is right beside my country, still, they're named Slovensko and Slovinsko in my language, which is.. quite close
nimble depot
Sleep deprivation round 2. How fun.
The only thing I can conclude from today is I did nothing useful
marsh charm
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
wild fern
does eZprotector work on 1.17?
vernal moth
Ask the author?
Or try it
Generally these plugins are really dum
Like all of the features of said plugin are dum or byepassable
(please don't hurt me donotspamplease)
nimble depot
Like all of the features of said plugin are dum or byepassable
Anti-WDL kinnda made me laugh
Yes, it would stop basic Fogre/Fabric use but there are mods that present the client as vanilla or whatever