Occasionally, but I keep seeing bugs complained about. I suggest waiting.
#general
true canyon
void void
okay, cool
warm anchor
Only Dota player know this meme 
true canyon
oh no, put that down.
austere ivy
bluel youβre free to swim in my pool whenever you want 
warm anchor
Lol
left swift
I havent had to rollback from a backup yet but I've had to regen my nether twice and delete a few region files 
willow delta
tickEntities is really causing my tps to plummet
limpid comet
papercon confirmed @ brians pool
left swift
Is there a ball pit
willow delta
what are good solutions to reducing that?
limpid comet
don't speak of the pit
warm anchor
Peaceful mode
void void
hi
ripe sphinx
not a marketplace
wispy blade
nice breach of rule 4
potent fossil
i dont really want to go to close but
wispy blade
hey gimple
wispy blade
tensesmash pog
unreal quarry
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
warm anchor
Hi Billy
unreal quarry
warm anchor
worn ember
brave radish
wtf Billy using frog emotes π
warm anchor
Billy maybe a boomer but he keeps up with latest meme bro
unreal quarry
cobalt surge
Wtf is going on here
worn ember
Yes.
unreal quarry
set cap at 15
tough tiger
any other ones lol
lament patio
Needs timings
tough tiger
hold on
vernal moth
olive marlin
Sadge, I was hoping for 1.17.1 to release sooner.
https://twitter.com/slicedlime/status/1406995160739762181?s=19
Twitter
magic river
I guess waiting for 1.17.1 is going to take longer than I thought
blazing quarry
What do they mean resume next week
waxen panther
for you anything krusic
warm anchor
I guess waiting for 1.17.1 is going to take longer than I thought
But but but my drowned copper drop rate bufffffffff
olive marlin
They'll probably do another pre-release next week.
potent fossil
what about for me brocc
lament patio
Hopefully that means it'll be very stable ... Right? /s
warm anchor
Hopefully that means it'll be very stable ... Right? /s
No it just delayed unstable version by a week
blazing quarry
Hopefully they'll fix the generation error
brave radish
which one?
ashen cliff
Which one? 
brave radish
I haven't been following the bugs outside of the ones that come up in paper-help
blazing quarry
It's a vanilla issue
brave radish
yeah but what is it?
blazing quarry
Hold on lemme get the link
It really affects performance
I get it when moving into new chunks
The console goes crazy
brave radish
oh that thingy
potent fossil
high quality comments in my patches
A+
cosmic raft
:3
potent fossil
untold meadow
cosmic raft
You can thank @true canyon for this originally :p
true canyon
potent fossil
I love mbax
true canyon
cosmic raft
TIL mbax has nitro
true canyon
Free, one month, then abandoning it.
cosmic raft
Ah
true canyon
Also, I like this one in KICL:
// Tried to run, tried to hide,
break onThroughToTheOtherSide;
heh
sage herald
Any papermc config to reduce ram and lag?
brave radish
.optimize
left swift
theres a config in /stop lag
limber knotBOT
additional tips for improving server performance - https://www.spigotmc.org/posts/3684550
weak rover
left swift
I would tell you to read the flags page but idk if that site is fixed yet or not
.flags
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
left swift
nope
copper summit
hey people! I hope you all are well! is there a way to auto update paper? i use centos
mossy vessel
Possible? Yes. Recommended if you need to ask that? No.
copper summit
Why would you not recommend? Will it cause performance issues. I have a dev team working on my server.
wispy blade
it might cause some things to break
brave radish
you're supposed to backup and test before new updates
copper summit
Ok. Thanks for the input! Cheers!
crystal compass
mossy vessel
!ban 853831245272580107 Advertising your own discord is not tolerated
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned masterlegogamer#1335 (Advertising your own discord is not tolerated) [1 total infraction] -- NotMyFault#3732.
ashen cliff
Also against TOS.
brave radish
wait what is, the Google Drive thingy or the advertising?
bright stirrup
someone posted a link to their discord
brave radish
I know, I can see that π
wispy blade
lmao that discord is just 1 channel
ashen cliff
Nah. Drive should be fine.
blazing quarry
Is there a calculator that can calculate how much gb it takes to generate a world within a set border
olive marlin
All depends on your CPS. Here are my calculations for pregen on Spigot a week or so ago: #paper-help message
plain ermine
Why can't i post in #adorable-pets
waxen panther
14 cps 
plain ermine
I have such a big folder with Pictures of my cats sleeping In adorable positions
olive marlin
Brocc it took over 2 DAYS to get from 8k to 12k border 
Prove you have adorable kitty and someone might give you access π
void void
Was the 1.17 project dropped?
limber knotBOT
yes, no more 1.17
waxen panther
lmao
void void
optifine for 1.17 doesnt support shaders atm right?
wispy blade
ask optifine
waxen panther
optifine
void void
are you not using it? no shaders?
wispy blade
no
waxen panther
im not using but no it doesnt support shaders yet
void void
oh thanks for that info!
void void
optifine is garbage
why
waxen panther
closed source & the performance stuff is bad compared to sodium and lithium etc
void void
resourcepack features π π π π π₯² π π π π π
closed source sucks that true tho
merry talon
but my cape
olive marlin
AFAIK they are against EULA, yes.
lament patio
Oh, hm
merry talon
magic river
Yeah man, don't diminish my awesome cape by trying to get some lame optifine one
quasi valley
at least we'll all have one soon
merry talon
wtf cape do you have
cosmic raft
vanilla is fast enough without it
quasi valley
potats still benefit from the fabric optimization mods tho
magic river
cosmic raft
ayy me too amaranth
merry talon
cosmic raft
quasi valley
I'm just sad I haven't seen my cool optifine cape in ages
brave radish
pretty sure they're only forbidden to be sold, not to exist
merry talon
Paper cape when
brave radish
idk though
waxen panther
but my cape
there's a fabric mod for showing your OF cape too :p
merry talon
no I don't think you can have them at all
ashen cliff
Things I could have: https://sl.namemc.com/cape/129a4675704fa3b8
Things I didn't get because a Slovenian Youtube decided to butcher our whole translation: https://sl.namemc.com/cape/129a4675704fa3b8
brave radish
no I don't think you can have them at all
find be a quote π
magic river
Huh, for some reason my profile had my cape turned off
Why does my skin get 603 views a month on namemc?
formal turret
because you have the cape
cosmic raft
yea
brave radish
oh I didn't know that was a thing
I don't think Mojang would really care if you should a texture file though
as long as you don't like sell armor stands floating on people's backs to look like capes
Kashike is a Mojira mod?
magic river
I'm not one anymore
It was mostly a way for me to see the private tickets to get a heads up on dupes
ashen cliff
They have to check everyone.
brave radish
like as a server
I mean, I'm not Mojang; that's just my guess
I don't think, if there was a mod that let you wear custom capes, and I sold you a texture file, Mojang would care
olive marlin
OptiFine is a mod that lets you wear custom capes and sell you a texture file. So...
kind pecan
mojang only cares if you sell their own code
earnest gorge
thatβs wrong, I am in the lounges discord and they hate people that sell capes
vernal moth
You can't migrate you?
kind pecan
thought migration hasnt started and wont for months
earnest gorge
Mojang were pretty clear about capes or βcloaksβ renamed
kind pecan
well, they clearly care enough to do something about optifine lol
waxen panther
did you buy the account recently
vernal moth
How did you migrate?
brave radish
they also might do that after everyone is done
olive marlin
Didn't they start migrating selected people last month?
brave radish
(but, yeah, I don't think they started yet)
kind pecan
yea i think its invite to migrate sorta deal
vernal moth
If you somehow slipped into an early testing group, those don't get capes yet
ashen cliff
Better be a unified cape.
vernal moth
Because like, migration officially hasn't started yet
vernal moth
Better be a unified cape.
Pretty sure ppl think its based on account age
ashen cliff
I hope it not.
vernal moth
I hope it is
ashen cliff
Since otherwise it's still a security issue.
vernal moth
How so?
ashen cliff
Helps with social engineering. Since you know the accounts age.
vernal moth
Because you are a target? MSA got good enough tools to prevent any attack
kind pecan
i hate the ones that make you look at the shadow
my eyesight is so shit it takes me forever
quasi valley
and then it makes you start alllll over again if you misclick
void void
π’ π π€ π π‘ π€¬ π€― π³ π₯΅ π₯Ά π± π¨ π° π₯ π π€
void void
you are unfunny anime pfp guy
spring wedge
good day social friends 
kind pecan
very annoying
waxen panther
this mf really just linked me the blocking article
kind pecan
yes
vernal moth
Please stop spamming emoji it's really annoying
void void
ok sorry
olive marlin
good day social friends <a:Wave:691187219930808330>
ashen cliff
this mf really just linked me the blocking article
Bro! I know what you can do: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/217916488
waxen panther
π wow thanks π
quasi valley
π wow thanks π
vernal moth
Why block when you can ban 
brave radish
Why block when you can ban <:think:768980640443924480>
broc is just a printer intern assistant; no ban perms
vernal moth
That's what he makes you think
brave radish
π
vernal moth
If I were you I wouldn't pick a fight!
waxen panther
vegtebal role secretly has admin π
meager tusk
Ok Brocc
waxen panther
lowercase b 
wind mason
Since when can you use Java on Visual Studio?
The person streaming is using it
yeah
tropic flame
._.
cosmic raft
no
potent fossil
No, it's not
cosmic raft
it isn't
tropic flame
"Visual Studio"
it's VSCode
wind mason
Literally "Visual Studio" is in the name?!
tropic flame
it's literally not the same
cosmic raft
different product
potent fossil
Let that part of it go - they're totally different things
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tropic flame
Literally "Visual Studio" is in the name?!
you missed the "Code"
wind mason
you missed the "Code"
It's the same thing, u can code with visual studio
cosmic raft
lol
potent fossil
Okay I guess 40 people will reply with the same thing all at once - so I will bow out and let the other 39 do it
tropic flame
It's the same thing, u can code with visual studio
how about you search for the functionality of each, then?
you'll see they're different
vernal moth
Just google visual studio and then visual studio code
These products are not comparable at all
tropic flame
like lord
vernal moth
The first is a bloated ancient IDE and the latter one a text editor on steroids
brave radish
guys JavaScript is Java because it has "Java" in the name
tropic flame
Microsoft Bob and Microsoft Windows?! They're the same thing lol, they have Microsoft in the name!
wind mason
guys JavaScript is Java because it has "Java" in the name
Yes
wind mason
Unironically
tropic flame
mmmyes, the Samsung Smart Fridge and the Samsung Galaxy S10 are the same because they have samsung in the name
brb making some calls on my freezer
vernal moth
Don't think we need to continue this
potent fossil
Y'all don't really need to be assholishly sarcastic about it :p
potent fossil
That means it's overcooked or undercooked
tropic flame
what broccoli have you been eating
potent fossil
cook too little, it'll be hard to eat. cook too much, the fibers will bind together and become chewy
cook just right, it is 
wispy blade
broccoli that's a tinge undercooked makes it so much better
waxen panther
broccoli is great π‘ π€¬
vernal moth
You get a pod of water, hang a sieve on top and put the broccoli inside that sieve, never into the water
potent fossil
Yep that is a great way to do it
vernal moth
And also eco friendly, if you gotta boil potatoes or smth anyways, no need to have two pods
Saves on cleaning, saves on energy, pretty smart way to cook ^^
potent fossil
Well yea, that's a quick way to ruin broccoli
vernal moth
It tastes like nothing if you boil it in water
unreal quarry
when i was a kid my parents would give me cheese covered broccoli. i would suck the cheese off the broccoli then spit it back out lol
potent fossil
Try it steamed Tetra, then tell me your opinions
vernal moth
Now, you teach your parents how to cook tetra π
potent panther
could you vote on https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/492517675680006144/855892841027731517 to equalize the outdated
olive marlin
brocc is too epic
wispy blade
fact.
cobalt surge
π₯¦
cosmic raft
@potent fossil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ6nzKr3L2k&t=1h2m39s
potent fossil
will watch in a sec taking quiz
fallen oracle
Why are you talking in here while taking a quiz? Smh. Or is this one of those Buzzfeed things?
vernal moth
It's such a great soundtrack
The original one was by Hans Zimmer, and it still shows, but this more electronic version hits different
vernal moth
Never played runescape
cosmic raft
blinks
vernal moth
I don't enjoy RPGs, they are boring
potent panther
fallen oracle
I don't enjoy RPGs, they are boring
Aren't you literally... making one?
vernal moth
When I listen to the full album I can still know the mission in game
vernal moth
Aren't you literally... making one?
I am more like a consultant on dyescape rn, and I always was more interested from the technical side
fallen oracle
Ahh
wide chasm
You play RPGs to save your wallet, cause you'll be able to play it for 300+ hours π
vernal moth
Oh dw
potent panther
vernal moth
I play strategy games
wide chasm
Bought FE:TH, took me half a year to finish π
vernal moth
You don't wanna know my time in all the settlers, Anno, civ, AoE and StarCraft games combined
Kek this one Anno 1800 save game is well over 100 hours
waxen panther
mini if you have a friend that plays aoe, they just started the beta for coop campaigns in AoE 2. I did them all yesterday they're pretty fun
waxen panther
there's only 5 levels rn, they're adding more later though
vernal moth
I just wanna have the new settlers game
And am still exploring the new Anno dlc
Anno DLCs are full on add-ons/extensions, you get so much new content and depth
But I also don't play much rn
void void
My ubuntu on rpi4 wouldnt boot when not connected to a monitor, so I changed the settings in /boot/framework/config.txl but now it boots with 640x430 resolution...
anyone ever had the same problem? cant find a solution for it
potent fossil
use a headless distro (or uninstall DE entirely) if you don't want a GUI.
delicate patio
help, Joe Biden is chasing me.
icy arrow
are you able to break bedrock in survival on paper?
magic river
Shouldn't be able to
potent fossil
Not without plugins
icy arrow
f
the sever owner made it so you have to right click the bedrock with a nethrite ingot to break it and then i takes the ingot
left click I mean
muted storm
https://youtu.be/aZhJIns8J3U
Oh yeah. That's a bop
potent fossil
Choccywoccy!
void void
hi so i found a server with a afk suffix and hexcodes in tab, does anyone know what plugin that is?
potent fossil
maybe TAB
void void
does that have prefixes in tab?
potent fossil
it has support for it
wispy blade
@meager tusk bro!
potent fossil
<a:laugh:730801758753915071>
hey! that's mean :(
void void
how do i enable the afk suffixes in TAB?
tropic flame
hey guys can someone help me with minecraft server hosting i just need 125000β¬ to startup thx dm me for bitcoin wallet
void void
i need 12 billion
novel horizon
by using supported plugin
muted storm
hey! that's mean :(
Awww ily buddy β€οΈ
void void
vanilla server with no plugins
void void
by using supported plugin
tell me which
novel horizon
either datapacks or mods or command blocks
if u want no pl
but command blocks thats gonna be awful
void void
i will get pl
novel horizon
depends on your situation, there are plugins which are for AFK messages and also shows afk in tab
google afk tablist or so
some other tablist plugins have implementation from essentials or other plugins etc
obtuse jasper
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
novel horizon
its only for testing
void void
yeah i just saw that
novel horizon
for 1.17 yeah, but i doubt spigot is good even lol
void void
its fine
void void
ive been using spigot
abstract aspen
Again, we'd like to make it very clear that these are not production-ready builds.
I'd assume there will be an everyone ping when it's production ready
blazing quarry
hey is it bad to downgrade a server?
tropic flame
apparently nowadays it seems to be very bad
blazing quarry
ok
tropic flame
back in 1.8 you "could" downgrade to 1.7 and all you'd get would be missing blocks from the newer version
now it seems to make things explode
ancient bolt
I mean, what would it even mean to downgrade with all of the new data, new formats, new blocks, new entities, new structures, etc etc etc
maybe we could have @static badge write a bunch of data fixers for downgrading servers, I've heard he loves data fixers
brave radish
I mean, what would it even mean to downgrade with all of the new data, new forma...
Just copy everything Via does
static badge
lol no datafixer can handle the moving of entities to their own regionfiles
left swift
Leaf would do it for a new fursuit
ashen cliff
So it that:
lol no, datafixer ...
or
lol, no datafixer ....
static badge
waxen panther
dont scare the poor guy with punctuation
quasi valley
all leaf knows is that he loves DFU
left swift
Brocc got fired??
brave radish
never delivered any news
meager tusk
Finally
left swift
meager tusk
Balkan looks out for balkan
ashen cliff
Had to happen bro.
meager tusk
πͺ
ashen cliff
Time to move on. Only good things.
left swift
Because u worried too much about that fake paperchan that u couldn't do news
meager tusk
Time to move on. Only good things.
Like printer intern assistant assistant
ashen cliff
Bro! Did they ever get the drivers working?
meager tusk
He doesn't know bro. He was helping the assistant help the intern figure it out.
ashen cliff
Expected bro. Next time we really shouldn't give them the wrong driver with full confidence.
meager tusk
That took a lot of fucking brain power
meager tusk
Expected bro. Next time we really shouldn't give them the wrong driver with full...
"Trust me bro. It's plug and play!"
ashen cliff
Fact!
Just not for you.
Bruh.
AdoptOpenJDK removed dragonwell from their CI bro. π€
spiral lagoon
Is it possible to go from spigot 1.17 to fabric 1.17 without corrupting the world?
merry talon
try it and see
spiral lagoon
Alright
ashen cliff
You just have to restore the Vanilla dimension directory structure.
If you want to keep the nether and end.
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Whataburger represent!!
ashen cliff
We all like seeing Leaf in pain.
novel horizon
you can report it on github for example..
limber knotBOT
Paper's Main GitHub repo: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper
magic river
That looks like a bug from the very first experimental build
I'm not sure if it was permanent or just a visual thing, try with the latest build and a new world
brave radish
i found a problem in the paper build, where i can show it=
that's not what they meant by "profile"; idk if you were memeing or not
void void
yall aware that datapacks don't work right
worn ember
void void
pain
worn ember
brave radish
that's nice
worn ember
yes
Anyone know of a eco plugin that has cross server support?
ig it would have to be a bungee plugin right?
or velocity or whatever
cosmic raft
that's nice
:D
ashen cliff
I love that report. It's just a bit cursed.
cosmic raft
ashen cliff
Also seen that one.
brave radish
so have I, but it's even more cursed now
and somehow no one linked https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/5441
ashen cliff
Don't mention banned people.
languid crypt
that's not what they meant by "profile"; idk if you were memeing or not
no, srry, I am totally new to this platform. All was a mistake, it was a optifine error, all good
brave radish
well, FYI, by "profile," it meant a Timings or Spark link or something since you used the performance template, not a profile as in an account
thorn rampart
Any reason why the 1.17 channel was removed before stable builds are out?
vernal moth
Because there is no need to keep it as it fulfilled it purpose
Builds will get stable automatically over time and you can start with your usual testing, as always
thorn rampart
Will there be an announcement once the builds are deemed to be stable by the paper team?
By which I mean whenever the paper team decides to remove the warning label on the website
vernal moth
Not sure when we wanna remove that
Not sure if there is an announcement needed
Just do your own testing, we don't have a QA team so we can't do that
thorn rampart
Fair enough, thanks for the info!
magic river
At this point it's less "we know it's broken" and more "we don't know of anything serious that's broken"
And that's kind of always the case, Paper doesn't do releases
It's more likely to be broken now than the last few 1.16.5 builds, thus the warning, but it's up to you to find out if something is actually broken for your server π
reef dawn
shawty triflin she must be from dirty docks
pastel pivot
The Anti-Xray gist (https://gist.github.com/stonar96/ba18568bd91e5afd590e8038d14e245e) is updated to 1.17. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or if I forgot a block.
daring gulch
Plot twist: it was intentional
crimson kayak
Oh that reminds me I have to update my plugin
pseudo shadow
Which one
sonic harness
Is it easyish to run on Spigot 1.17 until Paper 1.17 comes out
pseudo shadow
1.17 is out
sonic harness
Really?
sonic harness
hmm
cosmic raft
ugh
mighty island
is the current build of paper gonna be as stable as the current build of spigot??
sonic harness
could I hypothetically just switch out Spigot 1.17 with Paper 1.17 and it will work that easily
pseudo shadow
Spigot plugins work on paper
mighty island
Spigot plugins work on paper
i know they work on paper, just wondering if anyone is having more issues w paper than spigot
cold pumice
it is 31Β°C outside
I would help, but unfortunately it's 38Β°C here
royal kernel
I would but its 39 here also
magic river
Paper 1.17 is probably about the same stability as Spigot 1.17 but Paper does have a lot of changes on top of Spigot so one of them could have been messed up
More stuff means more chances for bugs
quartz merlin
Your kernel [paper] can already be put on my server without making a backup copy to the world. Simply put, is the paper already stable?
tropic flame
no, so please make backups of your server
royal kernel
Always make backups
magic river
You should always be making daily backups of your server
quartz merlin
okey, thank you
quartz merlin
You should always be making daily backups of your server
even with a stable core paper?
tropic flame
(also Paper is technically not a kernel but... just a regular piece of user-level software)
magic river
Yes, always
tropic flame
even with a stable core paper?
yes
magic river
Backups make everything better
quartz merlin
okey
magic river
Even if you don't do it normally (and you should) you should do it now if you want to use spigot or paper 1.17
quartz merlin
okey
royal kernel
Automatic backups are a life saver
nova hatch
https://i.imgur.com/qqca09N.png
LAMFO
sonic harness
https://www.linuxnorth.org/minecraft/ Keeping this here so I don't forget it.
quartz merlin
Automatic backups are a life saver
yes
nova hatch
i went back in time π
quartz merlin
is paper more productive than spigot?
nova hatch
is paper more productive than spigot?
yes
spigot bad
j k jk
but the discord of spigot less productive
waxen panther
spigot bad.
sonic harness
I don't even know what the difference between spigot and paper is
I just use it because someone told me to
nova hatch
I don't even know what the difference between spigot and paper is
BETTER PROFORMENCE
SPIGOT HAS BUGS
TONS
ITS BUGGY
AND LAGGY
sonic harness
"BETTER PROFORMENCE, SPIGOT HAS BUGS, TONS, ITS BUGGY, AND LAGGY"https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546
nova hatch
paper CLEAn
ancient bolt
New IntelliJ EAP icon changed again, looks neat
nova hatch
PAPER DA BEST
fallen oracle
My guy, calm down.
quartz merlin
if I go from spigot to paper, will everything be fine on the server? with players, their belongings, with the world, etc.
cunning raft
nova hatch
if I go from spigot to paper, will everything be fine on the server? with player...
Yes
duhh
sonic harness
I only kid, I understand your point @nova hatch
nova hatch
tos
sonic harness
I should've used his nomenclature as it would've prevented any misunderstandings with him
magic river
torn lion
hi, does anyone know how to report a bug?
languid steppe
Since I hear horror stories all over the place in this discord, my 4 friends and I created a new world using the 17th build of Paper 1.17 jar and it's working like a charm
potent fossil
gg
hexed kelp
tropic flame
Since I hear horror stories all over the place in this discord, my 4 friends and...
That's good to hear! Unfortunately I used the 17th build of Paper 1.17 too and suddenly I had Bloody Mary appearing on my bathroom, through the mirror. I am writing this message from Hell now. They say I'm dead now and that I've been a bad boy in life, but I don't know what any of that means - are these people stupid? Well, I guess I should have used Yatopia. Now it seems like I'm dead. Great.
proud lance
olive marlin
proud lance
olive marlin
Share stacktrace and code.
fiery quail
Okay Thx sorry
languid steppe
That's good to hear! Unfortunately I used the 17th build of Paper 1.17 too and s...
I may have forgotten to mention that I have sacrificed my leftover banana juice to the rat gods in my basement and shouted "o o o" three times while sprinkling pepper on my pet frog named "Paper 1.17 axolotl", but I'm sure it had nothing to do with it
tropic flame
I may have forgotten to mention that I have sacrificed my leftover banana juice ...
Oh my God, the banana juice ritual? I never thought one could grow such courage to execute it. Well, I guess that's part of why I'm in Hell now - I guess I forgot the ritual. Giraffe Juice lives! ...For now.
Also why were you so mean to your pet frog :c poor froggie
twin lagoon
tropic flame
yeah yeah keep yawning
void void
this
tropic flame
the one who yawns at last, yawns the best
languid steppe
Oh my God, the banana juice ritual? I never thought one could grow such courage ...
banana juice ritual is an early step between the order of the basement rat disciples. I'm surprised you missed that step
Pepper on Paper makes him quite Peppy actually
You needn't worry a bit
tropic flame
banana juice ritual is an early step between the order of the basement rat disci...
Damn... well I just talked to the CEO of Hell and they're gonna give me a second chance. I guess wish me luck on the ritual, then.
tropic flame
You needn't worry a bit
Oh? I see then... as long as it does not hurt the poor animal :c
languid steppe
The reincarnates like yourself have the privilege of using the fabled banana bread crumbs ritual
Make sure to attempt that instead to redeem your soul from your earlier mistake
tropic flame
Oh? I'll keep that in mind. In case the CEO of Hell changes his mind. Thanks
potent fossil
is anyone a pokemon player? if so, tf is the diff between Sword and Sword, or Let's Go Eevee and Let's Go Pikachu
all I can gather is they're damn near literally the same game
tropic flame
usually the difference between two versions of the same pokemon generation is the different pokemon that you might encounter at some areas
some are exclusive to one, some are exclusive to other
this should be the case for Sword and for Shield
as for the Let's Go games i have no idea
potent fossil
So there's no point in buying both unless you want the, what, maybe 10 exclusive pokemon? lmao
It's in the same world and everything
floral mesa
pretty much, its with all pokemon games that the spawn tables are tweaked.
the lets go series opts to instead go with a different starter
floral mesa
ah right, also gym leaders do have some differences in the newest versions
tropic flame
like, in certain towns you'll have different gyms with different gym leaders
floral mesa
yeah, thats a new thing
tropic flame
So there's no point in buying both unless you want the, what, maybe 10 exclusive...
oh they're much more than 10 + this includes the legendary pokemon that's advertised on the game's cover lmao
potent fossil
well whatever, point being that it's essentially the same game which some shit switched around
same world, same story, etc
floral mesa
sometimes I prefer the more simple games where its generally only the legendary pokemon on the box art is used for that game
tropic flame
same world, same story, etc
essentially yeah
you'll find some different pokemon, different gyms, trainers, items... at some areas
but mostly the same world, and the same story
tropic flame
sometimes I prefer the more simple games where its generally only the legendary ...
wait, did they stop doing that?
wise bough
Is it late enough to ask for an ETA in terms of a production build or will I be hanged at the stake and quartered?
waxen panther
the latter
olive marlin
.eta - the same answer remains
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
waxen panther
haeck
wise bough
:(
olive marlin
It's up to you to decide if it's production ready for you.
olive marlin
I know it's not close for me.
tropic flame
same world, same story, etc
but ideally this is made so that you can have a friend that plays the opposite version so you can trade the exclusive pokemon with them
potent fossil
i have no friends for that purpose sir
tropic flame
(since you'd need two consoles to play both versions and trade with yourself if you wanted to play both versions effectively all alone lmao)
tropic flame
i have no friends for that purpose sir
well then just pick one of them and you'll be fine
potent fossil
so should i just not get it then
potent fossil
they're the same game
tropic flame
they still have some differences
or well just pick at random really
you'll be fine
wise bough
Just curious has paper ever had problems with trojan updates that someone intentionally puts in to weaponize bugs?
potent fossil
I mean, am I gonna miss out to a point that I'ma be salty about it later because of content being in another game
wise bough
Or any other spigot or spigot derivative for that matter?
potent fossil
Maybe on MCMarket, but I dunno
wise bough
Because I saw this guy who is super sus in the typing sounds room talking about what sounded like adding updates
potent fossil
thonk
floral mesa
ive seen sleep injections in the mainthread if someone goes over the player limit they paid for
potent fossil
tropic flame
I mean, am I gonna miss out to a point that I'ma be salty about it later because...
nah, you shouldn't get to that point
you'll be fine
floral mesa
beyond that, I havent seen intentional exploits of the sort, though ive been rather lucky to not have network managers who buy every jar file on mcmarket
wise bough
lol
tropic flame
some dude here in the server got a malicious version of Vault that spread its malware across all the other plugin jars
scary shit but interesting to read lmao
tropic flame
that's why I only download plugins from the KGBHangar website π
analog yew
dang its getting closer
wind geyser
The devs are still working hard on 1.17 right. Are they still going to stream it at all?
ripe sphinx
it's in a semi-stable spot atm, you can nab builds off https://papermc.io/downloads.
If you're using 1.17 in prod, take backups first.
wind geyser
yeah, I would like to do some testing with my friends, but I'd probably use a 1.16 world in it
I probably will just create a new folder for 1.17 and just add the 1.16 worlds and plugins
while 1.16 stays untouched
I'm probably not going to have backups for 1.17 since it's just to test. When 1.17 does actually release. Then I'll do a backup
if that makes any sense
crimson kayak
Does paper generally release a new build more than once a day?
ripe sphinx
A build is released every time there's a commit on the master branch. Sometimes that might be 10 a day, sometimes that might be nothing for a few days
wind geyser
so there won't be that many updates to 1.16 until they solve majority of the problems with 1.17
wind geyser
A build is released every time there's a commit on the master branch. Sometimes ...
this too
ripe sphinx
1.16's in kinda an EOL state. I assume critical things i.e. dupes or crashes will be patched but most of the energy is being focused on 1.17
floral mesa
winscp?
wind geyser
I found something called Cyberduck. I'm gonna try that out
wind geyser
I already use ssh, but I sometimes need ftp
proud lance
let me know if Cyberduck does parallel
wind geyser
I don't understand the question :(
proud lance
proud lance
its been an annoying issue, slowing down my transfer speeds
wind geyser
it looks like it has trouble if something is using it
solid siren
what server hosting u guys use?
proud lance
ovh
paper pagoda
brave radish
that's where all my 1.17 Bukkit fork testing has been done
wind geyser
what server hosting u guys use?
myself
olive marlin
Hetzner
solid siren
i see thanks for the input
is it worth using aikars flag even though i cant set a static ram
turbid oar
Hi
brave radish
that gray is not the same color as Discord's
turbid oar
looks like it on my pc
brave radish
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
crimson kayak
it's quite noticeable that it's an image lol
it should have a message so it doesn't have this big "blank" space
brave radish
ah yes
net.minecraft.server.Main.convertWorldButItWorks
I get the feeling leaf named that, and not just cuz it's world conversion
stuck wind
turbid oar
lmfao finally someone
I almost swat my computer when someone else did it so I saved it and decided to do it to others π
wind geyser
running 1.17 for the first time
static badge
`net.minecraft.server.Main.convertWorldButItWorks`
CB's world upgrader corrupted all regionfiles it touched
static badge
I wrote the patch
crude sparrow
@void void
warm anchor
@static badge 
void void
Tt
crude sparrow
Tt
void void
Tf
brave radish
@thorny flicker mutes you if you spam enough
crude sparrow
@thorny flicker bot
cobalt surge
I wonder what zzzCat would do if I poked him
brave radish
I'd ping Billy but he might be busy updating Purpur
golden gust
i would shit on your rug
golden gust
and then, I would shit on your rug in the living room
cobalt surge
you shit on my rug ill rub your nose in it
golden gust
you know, I tried to avoid making a really horrific joke
And now I wish I had done xD
brave radish
you're a mod; just delete everything and start over π
brave radish
are you implying cats can't be moderators??????????!!!!
golden gust
I mean, I'm gonna assume that she's just being species phobic because she's currently baking in the texas oven and is due a basting session
Billy, sort your meat out!
cobalt surge
lol
waxen panther
π¬
brave radish
Billy is busy not using Gradle
golden gust
And here is where we aim to fill the channel with enough crap that the mods don't spot me being me π
brave radish
just demote all the mods
waxen panther
@hidden bone purge 20
brave radish
we all know anarchy servers are the best type, right? π
cobalt surge
figured id come mess with you cat hoping my headache would go away but..... nope
golden gust
I mean, they do say that basting sessions can help a lot with headaches
brave radish
wait... you went to Paper general to avoid headaches?
warm anchor
try #paper-help
golden gust
billys wife
warm anchor
it will just kill your brain
warm anchor
@brave radish hey chicken I am trying to join my friend's server but I dont know the IP can you fix that for me?
golden gust
that is a fair use case for #paper-help
potent fossil
It's Chrysti we're talking about, her absolute genius can't be understood by mere mortals
golden gust
Can't have a headache if you don't have enough braincells left to have a headache
brave radish
<@!730149366345629786> hey chicken I am trying to join my friend's server but I ...
8.8.8.8
golden gust
god, i can't wait for the pandemic to fuck off
I just wanna make bank for a few years and save up enough money to tour the US or some shit, spend a year away from too much crap, maybe go actually shit on chrysti's rug
warm anchor
god, i can't wait for the pandemic to fuck off
come to US bro. No rules at all now at my area 
no one gives a single fuck anymore
Billy from TX right?
No rule over there to begin with
brave radish
I just wanna make bank for a few years and save up enough money to tour the US o...
let's all buy cat a nice house in Florida so he can sit on the beach and hardfork Paper for us
cobalt surge
Billy from TX right?
yes
warm anchor
zcat can just build one of those van house
golden gust
Texas is actually on the list of places I wanna go visit
warm anchor
It's HUGE
cobalt surge
I just wanna make bank for a few years and save up enough money to tour the US o...
please dont
you will spend 2 days driving and still be in texas
golden gust
I had a mate there who I used to joke around with often, but basically some shit happened and she basically got perma grounded and basically not seen her since and like, damn
warm anchor
zcat you gotta try Gas Station BBQ in TX
brave radish
that was a lot of "basically"
I love how cat has to dumb things down for the mortals here
golden gust
Well, I mean, the long story is a looooot more complimicated and fucked up
cobalt surge
he doesnt have to dumb things down for me im actually smarter than i lead on
brave radish
he doesnt have to dumb things down for me im actually smarter than i lead on
I said "for the mortals." Simple has already established you are not a mortal
golden gust
short story; messed up girl meets messed up rich guy, rich guy says messed up girl crossed the US on the bus to come visit him and run away, story turns out he and a few friends went to go pick her up, and best part, he's seemingly got away with it all, woooo
cobalt surge
so girl got the rich guy
golden gust
Pretty much yea, I mean, it was a mutual thing but it's just sorta crazy
sonic harness
does anyone happen to know how to get Java 16 to work on Raspian
warm anchor
I mean as long as no one is underage and both agree why not?
golden gust
Like, I'm a "love is love" kinda person, just, boundaries and shit holy fuck
That's the issue
cobalt surge
how underage was she
golden gust
I mean, am not sure that they did anything illegal as such but she was still in highschool and he basically drove across the country to pick her up
cobalt surge
there is the romeo and juliet laws
golden gust
Yea, those laws didn't apply
I forget her exact age at the time and it might have been legal, it's just sketchy af
But, even still, I kinda hate not having contact with her as she was fun to chat with but I kinda get why, just would be nice to know that she's doing fine π€·ββοΈ
warm anchor
well if you get money, you kinda able to get away with stuff that may not be morally correct.
Just look at how many rich dude/lady has way younger partners
split bramble
gladurbad
willow delta
hi have a kind of general server question. how much performance impact would the caves and cliffs preview datapack cause?
just curious
brave radish
A lot, plus it's experimental, plus you probably won't be able to upgrade your world to 1.18 if you use it
warm anchor
Mojang has not say anything about it will be able to continue it in 1.18 so unless you are killing the map at .18 I will never try it
willow delta
yeah im planning on starting a new season on 1.18
was just wondering about performance hit, thanks for the answer
pale robin
so if 0 is completely broken and 10 is working , whats the current state of the expermintal builds
willow delta
:)
warm anchor
so if 0 is completely broken and 10 is working , whats the current state of the ...
atleast 1
brave radish
so if 0 is completely broken and 10 is working , whats the current state of the ...
3
cobalt surge
so if 0 is completely broken and 10 is working , whats the current state of the ...
yes
pale robin
k can we get any higher?
brave radish
unless you're lucky, in which case 10
brave radish
k can we get any higher?
uhhh......
pretty sure that's on the to-do list, yeah π
pale robin
tired of using crapspigot
willow delta
A lot, plus it's experimental, plus you probably won't be able to upgrade your w...
how would it be if i pregenerated all chunks? still pretty bad?
brave radish
mhm
it doubles the height of the world
that's a lot of performance impact
most of the lag in modern versions comes from entities, and the spawn limits are still the same, but still a lot more blocks
void void
If a dev or core team is watching will we be able to continue our worlds after 1.18?
golden gust
literally fuck all to do with us
warm anchor
If a dev or core team is watching will we be able to continue our worlds after 1...
that's up to Mojang
void void
Oh...
golden gust
However, if you do any form of research, you'll see that mojang has literally allowed people to continue using the same world for how many years now?
and pretty sure they even committed to that on their livestream or announcement when they delayed it into part 2
brave radish
Mojang has stated that you will be able to use 1.16 worlds with 1.17 and 1.18
They did not comment on worlds using the experimental datapack (to my knowledge)
void void
What about the Bedrock?
brave radish
same for that, I'm sure
warm anchor
again, you are asking wrong people
void void
K
brave radish
oh you mean bedrock the block not Bedrock Edition π
I got confused cuz it was capitalized
ancient bolt
datapacks can wreck everything, if you're using one I'd say it's safe to assume you aren't gonna have much luck
brave radish
yeah idk what they're gonna do with the bedrock precisely, cuz Mojang hasn't said
void void
In 1.18 the Bedrock is being moved down 10-40 blocks I'm scared of that because of words 1.17 and down
brave radish
idk, they'll do it somehow
void void
Worlds*
limber knotBOT
they haven't released anything publicly other than that you will be able to upgrade your world
golden gust
they literally have no means in the current system to even determine if you're using the datapack
warm anchor
Keep in mind that the world you create with the data pack will be flagged as experimental by the game, and such worlds are not guaranteed to work in future versions. Also, please note that you canβt add data packs that change the world generation to existing worlds, so you must create a new world to access the experimental features.
@brave radish
from official blog post
brave radish
```
Keep in mind that the world you create with the data pack will be flagged as...
yeah that just says "I dunno"
golden gust
the way things like biomes are stored in chunks do NOT support modifying datapacks in any form of capacity
warm anchor
chance of Mojang rework chunk again in 1.18?
golden gust
and, in general, the entire upgrade system around biomes is 100% based upon the fact that they know the IDs solely because of the order they populate them, datapacks cannot promise that in any capacity
brave radish
chance of Mojang rework chunk again in 1.18? <:PepeLa:798951090539987004>
chance of Spottleaf rework chunk again in 1.17?
brave radish
he already promised π₯Ί
willow delta
i wonder if i had enough beef i could run it lol
my pc probably could, i doubt my VPS could handle it well
warm anchor
They have a plan to murder every patch wdym!
willow delta
pain
royal kernel
But if Mojang stops murdering there performance, what will paper do π’
waxen panther
continue adding wonderful api 
willow delta
royal kernel
Brocc, your now a printer intern?
waxen panther
i got demoted βΉοΈ
sterile basin
[Tue, 22. Jun 2021 02:33:45 GMT ERROR] --- DO NOT REPORT THIS TO PAPER - THIS IS NOT A BUG OR A CRASH - git-Paper-"22280c5" (MC: 1.17) ---
[Tue, 22. Jun 2021 02:33:45 GMT ERROR] The server has not responded for 10 seconds! Creating thread dump
the paper ceo's hate me
royal kernel
From president to printer intern
brave radish
```
[Tue, 22. Jun 2021 02:33:45 GMT ERROR] --- DO NOT REPORT THIS TO PAPER - THI...
if you're looking for help with that, put your full log on https://paste.gg and send it in #paper-help
brave radish
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/c2a3370c06424f86ba0baa7c88675af9
Looks like a bug, but I'm not sure because that still isn't the full log. Also, wrong channel
magic river
willow delta
brave radish
btw, continuation of yesterday's seemingly endless stream of build times with Paperweight, M1 Mac Mini I borrowed ran applyPatches in 3min 13seconds
proud lance
anyone tried running the server on m1?
void void
anyone knows a plugin to modify the server version example:
brave radish
@foggy silo thank you for the cat API β€οΈ
foggy silo
<@!246778942323818506> thank you for the cat API β€οΈ
π»
vestal jasper
@void void
@EventHandler
public void onServerList(PaperServerListPingEvent event) {
event.setVersion("Maintenance");
}
you're welcome
vestal jasper
idk if there's any existing plugins for it but would be ez to make
warm anchor
Didnt Kneny has one ?
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/maintenance-bungee-and-spigot-support-1-8-1-16.40699/
waxen panther
i do not see the problem
ashen flint
anyone know why this happens?
warm anchor
it appears that your connection has been reset.
golden gust
something closed the connection in an unexpected manner, that's all that can be said from that
brave radish
ok Josh
golden gust
ok boomer
waxen panther
ok ZombieChickenMan
brave radish
ok vegtebal
waxen panther
cat please stop being o*dist
vestal jasper
don't talk to me or my son ever again
golden gust
Yea, well, maybe if they stopped creaking they wouldn't attract so much attention to themselves
bah dum tss
brave radish
:roundnthonk:
golden gust
u calling me fat?
vestal jasper
yes
golden gust
WE GONNA GO BIG MAN?!
vestal jasper
ur a chonker, cat
waxen panther
big man
golden gust
!mute @vestal jasper
thorny flickerBOT
Command mute requires 3 argument(s) (<user:user|snowflake> <duration:str> <reason:str...>) passed 1
vestal jasper
hm?
golden gust
!mute @vestal jasper Γ₯
thorny flickerBOT
Command mute requires 3 argument(s) (<user:user|snowflake> <duration:str> <reason:str...>) passed 2
golden gust
OH FIT EME
cosmic raft
warm anchor
zombie I bet you dont even have 50 usd rn in your wallet 
celest coyote
The duel has been accepted, fight starts in 5 minutes
brave radish
zombie I bet you dont even have 50 usd rn in your wallet <:Pout:4156618309297766...
WOW EterNity
void void
I wish mojang don't mess 1.17 like 1.14 happened
brave radish
that's the last time I defend you from cat's insults
warm anchor
golden gust
woeful lichen
waxen panther
cringe
is that yours
actually either way
<@&748618676189528155>
advertising a discord
swift root
!warn 247665565190062081 Unsolicited advertisements are not welcome - thanks.
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Warned Troy#2090 (Unsolicited advertisements are not welcome - thanks.) [1 total infraction] -- Larry#6086.
mighty storm
they shouldve never given me da Effect - Graphic Equalizer (30 Bands)
cobalt surge
Did I miss a cat fite
foggy silo
merry talon
z D:
ancient bolt
cosmic raft
true canyon
π
dull linden
π
swift root
π
mental meadow
cosmic raft
swift root
broc, respectfully, stfu
vestal jasper
@golden gust hey you forgot to mute me
merry talon
π« 
waxen panther
dont you have syscraftians to be moderating
swift root
perhaps I do, but at the moment it's you, a paperian
waxen panther
i do not need moderating
vestal jasper
what am I