general

[warm anchor]

I think Mojang never make the promise

[ashen cliff]

They don't have to.

Any yet people made world downgrade tools.

[dusk drift]

Didn't they just say no

[ashen cliff]

Can't stop the community bro.

[worn ember]

well, it started, just a whole bunch of chunk errors

[warm anchor]

Nice ded

[ashen cliff]

More data than expected I assume.

[worn ember]

yeah whole bunch of deserialization spam

well at least rtp works again

so yeah its the datapack that breaks it

[brave radish]

uhhh

this is not how this is supposed to work

come on dumcord

[worn ember]

hm?

[woeful urchin]

saw on tiktok

how you can get caves and cliffs data packl

and like

get the generation

is this true?

[wispy blade]

https://google.it

[brave radish]

Yes, but it's experimental

[wispy blade]

my brain is dyin

[woeful urchin]

i see

[woeful urchin]

can i do on server?

[brave radish]

yes

[woeful urchin]

dope!

tysm

[worn ember]

yeah, seems like its prone to crashing tho

[woeful urchin]

ohhhh

server side

or client side

[main sorrel]

serverside

[worn ember]

server seems to shit itself if you tp to random non generated locations using the datapack, not sure what causes it tho

[wispy blade]

the world being different

[woeful urchin]

isee

so i just

dont tp

its gonna be survival world

[worn ember]

yeah, regularly generating chunks seemed to have worked fine

[woeful urchin]

u have a video

of how to do it

oh

that word is banned

im not that smart

[restive mango]

What

[woeful urchin]

@restive mango

look

only crashes if

[woeful urchin]

look fatty

we can have on server

[worn ember]

[woeful urchin]

ur not on fat

[waxen panther]

stop sending one word every message

[woeful urchin]

treb is

[waxen panther]

stop calling people fat lol

[woeful urchin]

anime pfp 0 care

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-anime-profile-picture-gif-19903708

[waxen panther]

troll 0 care

[wispy blade]

car seat headrest album cover pfp 0 care

[woeful urchin]

based

[viscid wedge]

we sure get a high volume of people here who seem to lack a frontal lobe

[restive mango]

Like sebi

[viscid wedge]

that was the implication, yes

[woeful urchin]

this server is very toxic

[warm anchor]

Says the toxic one

[woeful urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-argument-invalid-lovelive-gif-10851205

[broken rampart]

[warm anchor]

He’s just mad coz someone called him fat before so now he’s calling others fat

[wispy blade]

mad cuz fat

[viscid wedge]

ok let's not do that

[woeful urchin]

treb is my friend

and i did not use fat as an insul

like you guys are which is very toxic

to using that as an insult ngl....

[warm anchor]

Not sure about you but I don’t call my friend fat randomly and uncalled for

[woeful urchin]

fat is not an insult

[viscid wedge]

@swift root you're needed

[woeful urchin]

and the fact that ur insuating that means your not as accepting as ur pfp seems to be

[wispy blade]

you're insulting me so you're not inclusive!!!!!!!!!

[woeful urchin]

your baby raging now

[wispy blade]

you do realize how stupid that argument sounds right

[woeful urchin]

cause im right and your wrong

[warm anchor]

I am sure judging someone purely from their body shape is you

[viscid wedge]

leave it

[woeful urchin]

you used fat is an insult

i did not

your mad

i win

[warm anchor]

Lol

[woeful urchin]

[limber knot]

I see paper is childish again

[woeful urchin]

fr

[left swift]

<@&748618676189528155>

[warm anchor]

It’s just a troll Geo

[woeful urchin]

?

[warm anchor]

Summer time is here and kids are out

[limber knot]

Ah well then, I'll go

[wispy blade]

no, stay and enjoy the show

[warm anchor]

No we love you Geolykt don’t go

[left swift]

I miss the eclipse geo

[cunning raft]

wat

what was the ping for

[limber knot]

there is no ping

[left swift]

Sebi troll

[wispy blade]

there was a mods ping

[woeful urchin]

i am legit not trolling?

[twin lagoon]

the fuck is going on here

@warm anchor

[limber knot]

yes, very legit

[left swift]

Paper general stuff

[warm anchor]

[void void]

lol

[woeful urchin]

I have libya on my side ur all doomed

[cunning raft]

@woeful urchin if you wish to stay i suggest you read the rules #welcome

[woeful urchin]

what rule did i break..

[cunning raft]

just stop acting childish

:/

[woeful urchin]

not acting childish?

[limber knot]

And the rest has half of the IRC community on their side

[void void]

the bot just rekt you

[woeful urchin]

what is irc

[coarse lily]

Internet Relay Chat

[cunning raft]

#general message
#general message
#general message

[coarse lily]

Discord bridge.

[left swift]

International retainers club

[limber knot]

what is ptb.discord now?

[woeful urchin]

look fatty was directed at my friend treb who is setting up server

as i mentioned earlier

andthe anime pfp thing is valid 0care

[viscid wedge]

[left swift]

Go do it in ur own group chat then not here no one cares

[olive garden]

Ocare? what does obamacare have to do with anime?

[wispy blade]

replies to DED
"no yeah that was directed at my friend"

[left swift]

Anime funds obamacare

[limber knot]

Probably no care

But let's assume they meant obamacare

[void void]

how do u get the bot icon

[viscid wedge]

mo bamba care

[cunning raft]

you don't

[waxen panther]

how is this guy still not banned lolw

[void void]

oh

[cunning raft]

i warned him broc

[limber knot]

join the boomer club

[waxen panther]

[left swift]

Amogud

I'm going to politics where everyone is nice and theres no trolls

[limber knot]

censorship!

[worn ember]

spontanious forrest fires are a thing now apparently

[void void]

mmmmmm

m

[limber knot]

Anyways, gtg cya

[olive garden]

that guy hasn't even been warned yet, why would he be banned already?

[cunning raft]

and broc wants to be a moderator 🙄

that is why he's stuck as community jester

[quasi valley]

🥱

[left swift]

[wispy blade]

i nominate broc for mod

[left swift]

Nvm politics is a shitshow rn

Politics only fun when we talk about shitty news

[wispy blade]

true

[left swift]

Like the canal being blocked

[quasi valley]

I nominate jroy as head moderator

[cunning raft]

thank you

[worn ember]

kneny, i got another lovely datapack issue for you ❤️

[wispy blade]

i nominate myself as not very smart

[warm anchor]

JRooy is head of paper PR now wdym

[cunning raft]

i will yield my position to wizjany

[quasi valley]

no that’s again you being outdated

ded

[waxen panther]

NO

i want wiz to be mod

[warm anchor]

True

[waxen panther]

like the good old days

[worn ember]

https://launcher.mojang.com/v1/objects/622bf0fd298e1e164ecd05d866045ed5941283cf/CavesAndCliffsPreview.zip this is latest right? and it actually loads this time lol

[quasi valley]

#wiz2021

[potent fossil]

I need some beatsaber help fellas, so can I follow a playlist and have it auto download? I just see a button saying download and it gives me a file. I was under the impression this was all automatic? (On beastsaber specifically?)

[quasi valley]

not the latest paper tho

[worn ember]

ohnono

[left swift]

If you vote brocc for moderator he will put paper memes in all of the water fountains and let voice chat out early on fridays

[void void]

imagine if libya mod 😳

[warm anchor]

wizjany for paper MC mod 2021

[wispy blade]

i say google it or ask in BSMG discord :)

[potent fossil]

ok but paul gave me 10/10 advice earlier so fuq u

but u rite

[wispy blade]

i haven't played beat saber in over a year so idk what to tell you

[warm anchor]

Gimple gonna cosplay as cute anime girl in bear saber?

[potent fossil]

you can do that?

[wispy blade]

yes

with a mod 😏

[warm anchor]

@potent fossil https://youtu.be/CnNm1WGJa2Q

[wispy blade]

i think LTT made a video on it lmao

[fallow oak]

How old is paper

[brave radish]

1.7-ish (I think)

[fallow oak]

Ow thats long famn

Damn

[blazing quarry]

i experience sftp randomly disconnecting after a period of time

[left swift]

Paper is this many old

[blazing quarry]

is that a normal thing?

[worn ember]

probably your server disconnecting on idle

[warm anchor]

Inactive timeout? Have you check your config

[brave radish]

If you're on a Mac, Paperlover, I suggest you install homebrew and use it to replace the 90-year-old sftp client they ship

[left swift]

M C

[blazing quarry]

oh okay, looks like it only times out when inactive

[potent fossil]

holy shit im not sure if ill ever be that good at beat saber LMAO

[blazing quarry]

i was worried it would disconnect while transfering 11392 files... but i'm gonna guess it doesn't count as "inactive" then

[olive garden]

just grow a tail, based on the video it helps

[tall goblet]

In what stage of Development is the Paper Team to release 1.17?

[olive marlin]

Also, for anything SSH, add yourself keepalive. Sometimes it was disconnecting me despite doing stuff, and you can make the session open for longer and recover after brief internet choke/outage.

[olive garden]

#❗-1-17

[potent fossil]

mosh!

.g mosh ssh

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://mosh.org/

[potent fossil]

It's actually amazing

[olive marlin]

I believe I used it and it tried to predict stuff, but did it wrongly and kept messing me up.

[potent fossil]

I don't have predictions

[spiral robin]

@peak ginkgo settle an argument

would you consider yourself a discord badge collector

thank you

[wispy blade]

aberdeener can i have bentley pics pls

bentley's just so cute

[twin lagoon]

@spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin @spiral robin

bentley now

[spiral robin]

hello

ok let me find him

havent seen all day

[wispy blade]

woah

[blazing quarry]

i changed ip address on my domain name and my friend managed to connect to the new ip address but when i use the domain it connects to the old one

is anyone an expert on domain name that can tell me why tf that happens

[olive marlin]

DNS didn't propagate?

[brave radish]

https://shouldiblamecaching.com

[spiral robin]

@twin lagoon @wispy blade

[olive marlin]

It sometimes takes hours/days, depending on your DNS provider.

[twin lagoon]

epic

bloodstone send more cat pics

[olive marlin]

Usually minutes though.

[blazing quarry]

Yeah but the new IP works for my friend

[olive marlin]

For me at least.

[wispy blade]

ADORABLE

[olive marlin]

Domain still resolves old IP? Cached somewhere?

[brave radish]

@blazing quarry try clearing your local cache https://www.dnsstuff.com/clear-flush-dns-server-cache-windows#how-to-clear-dns-server-cache

[warm anchor]

There more mods too like this one @potent fossil https://youtu.be/o27W2ELMfho

[brave radish]

You can't do anything about the upstream DNS providers except wait/switch servers

[olive marlin]

I don't have any
Cats are gone to their home.

[potent fossil]

Lord

[twin lagoon]

wtf

[warm anchor]

Just one and actually look like a saber

[short yarrow]

Have you guys seen APIs that had authorization on specific fields instead of an entire resource? For example, no permission

{
    "doesNotRequireAuthorization": "Hello World",
    "requiresAuthorization": "".
}

Has permissions

{
    "doesNotRequireAuthorization": "Hello World",
    "requiresAuthorization": "You can see this now".
}

This doesn't feel maintainable to me

[potent fossil]

I've had ones that just omit fields if you aren't allowed to see them, but not ones that blank them

[spiral robin]

^^^

[short yarrow]

^ yeah I think omitting them is fine, but I think in my case they can't be omitted. They gotta be blank

[spiral robin]

wack

[short yarrow]

or like have nothing

yeah it's not great

[blazing quarry]

wow it still connects to the old one even after flushdns

[fathom peak]

Recommendations for a good gaming laptop that would be perfect for coding ? Under $1000

[twin lagoon]

define gaming

and define coding

[fathom peak]

Gaming like Minecraft and coding as in Java (I’m in college)

[twin lagoon]

ah just go on the lenovo website and pick out something with a ryzen processor and maybe an nvidia gpu

lenovo & hp usually have decent laptop deals

especially w/ edu discounts

[fathom peak]

What about this one hold up

[worn ember]

dell has some good series too (but then you gotta deal with dell software)

[fathom peak]

Yeah Noo I’m trying to stay away from dell

[void void]

https://ismypenisbigenough?.com/

jk

[worn ember]

i'm quite happy with my G5 series tho

[void void]

gimme link

[twin lagoon]

yeah that's fine

[fathom peak]

2021 New HP Pavilion 15.6" FHD Gaming Laptop, AMD 6-Core Ryzen 5 4600H Up to 4.0 GHz (Beats i5-9300H), 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650 Graphics, Win 10 Home + Oydisenhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B08P2WWK4G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6JGE3PW5FR95KA72D74Y

[warm anchor]

What’s that oysiden cloth

[twin lagoon]

a cloth

[warm anchor]

Lol

[fathom peak]

Lmao

[warm anchor]

Why is it so important

To have its own entry on feature

[fathom peak]

I have no clue

[blazing quarry]

i tried typing ipconfig/flushdns to remove the ip address but it's still there wtf

it says Time To Live 5600 seconds

[brave radish]

that's a long time

[blazing quarry]

so i have to wait 1.5 hours

[twin lagoon]

that clears your local dns cache

[brave radish]

If your provider lets you, lower the TTL on that. That's insane

[blazing quarry]

the dns has already been updated my friend confirms it because he connected to the new ip

[twin lagoon]

that's not how it works

[blazing quarry]

it's just locally on my computer

[twin lagoon]

because you're likely connecting to a different dns server than your friend

[warm anchor]

[blazing quarry]

we live in the same city

[twin lagoon]

that doesn't mean anything either

[warm anchor]

Don’t matter lol

[twin lagoon]

where's the dns comic

[warm anchor]

Can be next door and still can be didfernt

[brave radish]

For one, both of you are probably using your routers as DNS servers, which have their own caching

[twin lagoon]

https://howdns.works/ep1/

[blazing quarry]

isnt the explanation more that i have a dns cache that lasts 5000 seconds

[brave radish]

Then those routers could be using different upstreams

[twin lagoon]

no you're connecting to a dns server that likely doesn't have the changed IP address yet

[brave radish]

Yeah; that's why the DNS servers still remember the old one. It's not your computer remembering it

[blazing quarry]

oh

[warm anchor]

Why is michale so epic

[twin lagoon]

[blazing quarry]

ok thanks

so that's what TTL means

in my domain registrar they just have TTL 14400 as default

on every record

[warm anchor]

Google is your best friend!

[crystal thunder]

Cloudflare has 30 seconds

[blazing quarry]

so i have no choice but to wait it out

[wispy blade]

yup

[warm anchor]

That’s life my man

[potent fossil]

you can override that, dont have to use what they prefill

[worn ember]

dont rreally need to change it tho

it'll only change once or so

https://giphy.com/gifs/brat-tk-chicken-girls-hayden-summerall-kR6jwhI4fGN4OeRvp1

[blazing quarry]

okay nice

[worn ember]

midnight and still 23°C

[twin lagoon]

could be worse

32.3C in my room

[warm anchor]

Is that good or bad ded

Wtf michale

[twin lagoon]

23C is fine

[worn ember]

open your window

[warm anchor]

How are you managing to still live

[twin lagoon]

it's been open for the past 10 hours

[worn ember]

thats outdoors tho, its hotter in my room

[blazing quarry]

it's not like i can play on my server today anyway 👀 Queued files (10980) | Queue: 39.2 GiB

[twin lagoon]

23C outside is perfect

[warm anchor]

I will be human liquid on the floor if it’s 32C in my room

[worn ember]

not if your room is like 30°C lol

[twin lagoon]

ngl i could live in my room when it's 30C

but 32C is a bit too hot for sleeping

[worn ember]

wtf

[warm anchor]

What you tried to do

[blazing quarry]

my room is 22 C

[twin lagoon]

my room is standard at like 26C

[merry talon]

I macgyvered a portable AC into a casement window because I couldn't handle 23

wtf is wrong with you

[worn ember]

anything above 21°C is reee

[warm anchor]

My room is about 68-70 F all day

[olive garden]

Doesn't your body need to sweat above 28C?

[twin lagoon]

probably

[olive garden]

Or is that water

[twin lagoon]

there's a thing called showers though

[blazing quarry]

I'm changing hosting service, so transfering all files from one host to another

[warm anchor]

They don’t let you zip it?

[worn ember]

how does having a shower help you tho

do you have a showerhead over your desk or something

[olive garden]

As in when the heat transfer is better because you are in water
Probably not 28C for that though, idk

[blazing quarry]

i hadn't thought of that

[warm anchor]

One big file assuming good connection is better than 10038373273 small one

[olive garden]

Yeah, but I would rather not sweat when working

[blazing quarry]

i'm just uploading every file over sftp

all the region files

[merry talon]

[warm anchor]

Zip it first if host support it

Gosh

[merry talon]

Have fun with that

[blazing quarry]

I'm sorry

[twin lagoon]

i'm not really sweating right now at 32c and a fan pointed at me

but i also took a shower 2 hours ago

[merry talon]

???

[wispy blade]

im always sweating

doesnt matter what temp B)

[vestal jasper]

michalalelelele

[twin lagoon]

see it only gets to be an issue when i gotta go sleep in a few

[worn ember]

well all i get for fans is hot air blowing against my balls from my computer fans

[merry talon]

How do you do anything other than just trying to exist

[twin lagoon]

but other than that 32c is ok

[warm anchor]

Wat

[twin lagoon]

it's the asian roots that keep me alive

to be fair i have had worse

i've only gotten a thermometer since this year

[warm anchor]

Humanity too?

[twin lagoon]

and it was like 34c outside last year

humidity 44%

[warm anchor]

I have one wityb both

It helps a lot

[twin lagoon]

i've got a $10 xiaomi BLE one and it's great

[left swift]

Humanity lmao

Silly eternity

[worn ember]

i miss my AC

it ran out of coolant and now its ded

[warm anchor]

There’s like 5 degree difference

If I walk from my basement to 2nd floor

old house

[worn ember]

same here, probably like 7-8deg difference tho

its nice and cool downstairs, upstairs its like hell

@warm anchorstupid rubick game ruined my winstreak

[warm anchor]

Yeah no fix for that

Coz the AC is central and I will need to reroute all the HVAC line

I may just buy a new house

[waxen panther]

^ oil prince

[worn ember]

at least you have AC

[blazing quarry]

transferring every file was more practical for me in this case

[worn ember]

we gotta get by using the laws of theromodynamics lmao

[left swift]

U still having big ac problems

It's probably easier just to buy a window unit AC

[blazing quarry]

basically i started a new server and i'm copying region files over to the newly generated folders

[twin lagoon]

peaked at a whopping 33.15C

[brave radish]

HTTP would've been a lot faster but ok

[twin lagoon]

kinda just want it to be 30C outside already just to see how bad it gets in my room now

who the fuck recommends HTTP for file transfer

[warm anchor]

Zombie wtf

[brave radish]

I do when they're using SFTP

[twin lagoon]

r s y n c

[brave radish]

Yeah if you wanna be fancy

but anything is better than SFTP

[twin lagoon]

or if you want things done

[warm anchor]

All my homie copies file to a usb drive and mail over to me

[twin lagoon]

[warm anchor]

Faster!

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

FedEx next day shipping bro!

[worn ember]

FTP?

[warm anchor]

[brave radish]

Yeah, can do that too if you want. HTTP just easier to set up

[olive marlin]

Reminds me when I had to use LFTP. It is so bugged...

Just do rsync.

[worn ember]

just yeet everything in a udp packet and hope it arrives

[brave radish]

I didn't suggest it as a replacement

I suggested it as a better way to transfer (what should be) one zip file

[warm anchor]

No we kill chicken zombie now!

[brave radish]

.kill EterNity

[limber knot]

gags and ties EterNity then throws them off a mountain.

[brave radish]

too late

[worn ember]

get the pitchforks

[olive marlin]

Or if the internet pipe is the issue - tar it into chunks, pigz it and rsync over.

[brave radish]

Or at least just don't SFTP

[upbeat falcon]

rsync - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync

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[olive marlin]

Or rather split into chunks after pigz.

[worn ember]

interesting

all we do here is hate on stuff sulu

[brave radish]

not true DED

[olive marlin]

I've had way too many issues with SFTP/LFTP. They all were super slow and bugged to hell.

[brave radish]

No one hates on @ Larry

[worn ember]

yatopia bad
sftp bad
airplane bad
memes bad

[olive marlin]

DED bad

[warm anchor]

Ded bad

[brave radish]

This except I've never used LFTP specifically

[worn ember]

eternities typing skills bad

i use sftp in filezilla (unironically)

[olive marlin]

It was fun to discover that some region files I downloaded magically became empty.

[limber knot]

nfs or bust

(or if you prefer slow: samba accessing an ntfs drive 😢 )

[olive marlin]

I don't remember the exact issue - but I think region files below 4K after being transferred came out empty.

[brave radish]

remembers I was testing a possible bug in Paper like three hours ago and didn't finish
k bye

[warm anchor]

[void void]

does anyone have that image of the different forks of Minecraft and how they link to each other?

[worn ember]

bug hunting on early releases is always fun

[floral mesa]

I havent had issues with sftp+rsync? on a 10gbit uplink on both compute/storage nodes, Ive been able to get around 500MB/sec

[worn ember]

you usually run into issues you arent even looking for

[brave radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720375089123688488/854645220980817930/Fork_Graph.png

[void void]

@brave radishwhat a dude

[warm anchor]

Wait chicken isn’t girl?

[worn ember]

maybe the chicken part is female and the zombie part is male?

[olive marlin]

Chicken weren't you supposed to finish testing a possible bug in Paper?

[warm anchor]

All chicken is girl in Minecraft @worn ember

[worn ember]

mute him for 24h so he has to

[warm anchor]

Coz they all lay eggs

[worn ember]

yes, they also all lesbian, no idea how that works tho

[brave radish]

then how do I ask about the bug? 🥺

[warm anchor]

It’s magic!

[worn ember]

video game magic

[brave radish]

Also, apparently is not Paper bug; is Mojang stupidity

[left swift]

Whaaaaaat

A bug with mojang?

[brave radish]

not bug

stupidity

"works as intended"

yeah right :P

[worn ember]

me looking at the 15 stacktraces in console

[olive marlin]

me looking at 7000+ stacktraces in console

$ zgrep -c 'IllegalStateException' logs/*
logs/2021-06-12-1.log.gz:1130
logs/2021-06-12-2.log.gz:147
logs/2021-06-13-1.log.gz:5825
logs/2021-06-13-2.log.gz:0
logs/latest.log:0

[brave radish]

I should hack cat's computer and alias zzzcat to zcat

[worn ember]

[olive marlin]

English please.

[grave crow]

well, it's homophobic

what he wrote

[limber knot]

oof

[olive marlin]

Thanks sulu ❤️

I usually don't translate. Should probably get google translate CLI or something.

[tranquil roost]

https://papermc.com

[waxen panther]

yes

[left swift]

Thank you Stefan Rich Ulysses, very helpful!

[jovial prism]

hello

[cosmic raft]

Can someone explain to me something. What is with these people blasting loud music from speakers while standing around talking with their friends?

[wispy blade]

the music is for everyone to enjoy because they don't care about you

[short solar]

this is already 1.17?

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[wispy blade]

well, kinda

[warm anchor]

Trying to share music or inside their mind that’s what they think they are doing. Similar to cars with modified speakers that blaze through your neighborhood at 3 AM. Just being a dick and wanna put out a show for it lol

[limber knot]

facts.

[brave radish]

There is a highly unstable test build in #❗-1-17 , but, when I say highly, I don't mean "untested," I mean "this will break your stuff"

[cosmic raft]

It's annoying

They were doing it while on the bus too

And everyone was staring at them

[twin lagoon]

kashike

[edgy lance]

I wanna to be fed to the goblins

[warm anchor]

Yup. Same here. But usually outside of campus lol

[cosmic raft]

hi michale

[pallid otter]

wheres a good place where i can find like a feed of new plugin releases?

[brave radish]

The category on the Paper forums

[twin lagoon]

probably just spigotmc's resources section

[brave radish]

But that's not really a "good" place

[olive marlin]

Usually you can star/follow plugins.

[brave radish]

Oh you meant a specific plugin, or all plugins?

[pallid otter]

all

[olive marlin]

Oh, new plugins - follow whole category 🙂

[pallid otter]

o

[short solar]

but it's 1.17

[pallid otter]

is it better to use paper forums or spigot forums for it

[brave radish]

Both

[wispy blade]

yes, but it will break your things

[short solar]

What do I care if I lose my things?

[wispy blade]

idk you lose all of your world progress

[olive marlin]

Use Paper forums, spigot resources and DBO for all the plugins.

[brave radish]

If you don't care about breaking things, you can use it

[pallid otter]

what is DBO

[wispy blade]

dev.bukkit.org

[swift root]

dev.bukkit.org

[pallid otter]

ah

[swift root]

!!!!!! uwu

[twin lagoon]

larry!

[crisp tartan]

how to download beta paper 1.17?

[twin lagoon]

uwu indeed

[olive marlin]

Laarryy!

[twin lagoon]

it's not a beta

[wispy blade]

#❗-1-17

[swift root]

m i k e !

[pallid otter]

#❗-1-17

[swift root]

bloodstone!

[twin lagoon]

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarry

[short solar]

My world was corrupted by a tpa plugin and since the map was corrupted I change it to the new version

[brave radish]

#❗-1-17 but, again, it's not even an Beta, it's an Alpha

[pallid otter]

how long did it take u to get a response for discord mod exam thingy

[short solar]

piola

[twin lagoon]

the what

[pallid otter]

this https://srnyx.has.rocks/kq02wexhr9a

[twin lagoon]

o

[waxen panther]

cringe

[twin lagoon]

cringe

[olive marlin]

michale is very cringe

[twin lagoon]

no i got in before the DMA exam existed

so can't answer that

[pallid otter]

wait what?!

how did u get in then

[twin lagoon]

black fucking magic

one day i woke up

[pallid otter]

fr

[twin lagoon]

boom

[wispy blade]

basically: he's Dutch

[pallid otter]

bru wtff

[short solar]

che teach me how to change version in this, I'm going to enter typing-sounds

[wispy blade]

dutch people get things done in mysterious ways

[twin lagoon]

and then there was a polestar 1 at my frontdoor

and a mcflurry m&m

since then i've never been the same

[brave radish]

If you mean the Paper version, you should not be using that if you don't know how to

[short solar]

and i don't speak english i'm using the translator

[twin lagoon]

fuck i could use a mcflurry rn

[cosmic raft]

https://c.tenor.com/DQv-WhpZoY8AAAAM/golden-girls-cheesecake.gif

[twin lagoon]

no not cheesecake

[cosmic raft]

https://c.tenor.com/DQv-WhpZoY8AAAAM/golden-girls-cheesecake.gif

[twin lagoon]

no

[cosmic raft]

yes

[brave radish]

now I want cheesecake

[twin lagoon]

no

[short solar]

I don't know how to change the version and to test how it goes

[twin lagoon]

look the real question is

[crisp tartan]

what is official site of the git?

[twin lagoon]

when am i getting the new fucking nitro profile customization

[pallid otter]

they know the risks

[brave radish]

https://git-scm.com/

[twin lagoon]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper

[wispy blade]

dude i love cheesecake

[crisp tartan]

thanks

[wispy blade]

used to hate it

[brave radish]

oh I read "git" not 'the git" lol

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther

[pallid otter]

bluemap, dynmap, or pl3xmap

[twin lagoon]

dynmap is a good middleground

[pallid otter]

isnt pl3xmap basically the same thing

[twin lagoon]

bluemap if you like a fancy map but have less than 20 players because garbage collection will ruin your day

pl3xmap if you want a very basic / simplistic map

[pallid otter]

i remember i used bluemap and it just didnt have many features

[twin lagoon]

it has got quite a few now

[brave radish]

I've heard pl3xmap is mucch faster but haven't used any of them

[waxen panther]

hi king of discord moderators please make me a mod

[pallid otter]

yea i think pl3xmap is faster

[twin lagoon]

ok

ur a mod now

[pallid otter]

but its lower quality

[waxen panther]

where the FUCK is the badge.

[twin lagoon]

kori stole it

[waxen panther]

sus

[twin lagoon]

kori sussy baka

[waxen panther]

WOA

micheal actual weeb

[twin lagoon]

[wispy blade]

woa

talk in english xd

[tropic flame]

[pallid otter]

dang bluemap has added a ton of features

does bluemap take longer to render than dynmap?

[golden gust]

yes and eats a good chunk more space in the process too afaik

actually, am not sure on the time it takes

[short solar]

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[golden gust]

I know people have been saying it makes dynmap look a lot more disk friendly

[pallid otter]

makes sense

BlueMap: https://bluecolored.de/bluemap/
Dynmap: https://map.srnyx.xyz/
Pl3xMap: https://map.pl3x.net/

pl3xmap is less advanced it seems

[twin lagoon]

keep in mind that there's a modern vue.js dynmap frontend available

[pallid otter]

yea i saw

[twin lagoon]

https://github.com/JLyne/LiveAtlas

[pallid otter]

but its only for 1.17

[twin lagoon]

it's a frontend

it doesn't matter what version

[pallid otter]

o

[west thorn]

Helloo

[pallid otter]

so liveatlas is basically dynmap 2.0?

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/toddlers-and-tiaras-reality-smile-creepy-evil-gif-3502066

[twin lagoon]

kinda

[crisp tartan]

sorry for the question, but..., if i compile the official github files of the paper i will have the 1.17 right?

[brave radish]

Only if you use the dev/1.17 branch

[tired heath]

If you do not checkout to dev, you will get nothing

[golden gust]

plexmap is less advanced

it's designed to be a fast, minimal solution to my understanding

dynmap for example is great in a sense but it's not something which has really seen much love

[warm anchor]

Will sometging like 20x20k too big for blue?

[pallid otter]

bluemap would take up too much space, take forever to render for me, and i think it only works good with hardware acceleration enabled

[warm anchor]

I only did some basic testing and bluemap looks realllly good

[pallid otter]

so its rly between dynmap and liveatlas

yea bluemap is super good but only with smaller maps

mine is 20k by 10k

so it wouldnt go too well

[warm anchor]

Just don’t pregen

[pallid otter]

i have to: https://map.srnyx.xyz/

i think the surface render has been going on for like 2-3 days now

[brave radish]

that domain's not sus at all 👀

[pallid otter]

its a dynmap...

[brave radish]

ik I clicked it

domain still sus though

[warm anchor]

Zombie on chicken is also sus

[dusk drift]

bluemap is great but very heavy on the server

[void void]

yoooo

random question lol

i thought spigot/paper are like...performance fixes and stuff right? plugins etc... HOW DOES IT BREAK REDSTONE?

[dusk drift]

coz u cant send images in here?

[void void]

;p

[dusk drift]

maybe

[pallid otter]

what

[warm anchor]

Sus

[pallid otter]

well its supposed to embed

[brave radish]

Cuz CraftBukkit messed stuff up. Enable use-faster-eigencraft-redstone in paper.yml and it will fix some of the problems

[void void]

other stuff got broken so i stopped using spigot and went back to vanilla

my nether got reset lol

[pallid otter]

k i give up

[void void]

it didnt load in

[pallid otter]

deleted the links so im not super sus

[golden gust]

I mean, craftbukkit makes breaking changes, some for the sake of adding events, some for the sake of making the server feel likeit's running great when its not

[dusk drift]

coz bukkit saves worlds in diff folders

[brave radish]

Yeah cuz Spigot and vanilla store them differently

[golden gust]

then spigot comes along and adds other tweaks ontop of that

[void void]

oh really?

[golden gust]

paper as a whole does not touch redstone outside of the odd fix here and there

We do not change redstone behavior as a whole on our own

[brave radish]

mhm. Same files and file format, just different folders

[void void]

ohhhhh interesting

[brave radish]

You can put it back to vanilla by moving them around

[golden gust]

(and, people who are technically inclined around stuff like redstone refuse to help us with it, so, generally, glhf)

[void void]

I went back and forth but evetnaulyl it broke where the server crashed on login so i went back to vanilla lol

[upbeat falcon]

Why did my Nether/End get reset when switching back to Vanilla ...

https://help.pebblehost.com/en/article/why-did-my-netherend-get-reset-when-switching-back-to-vanilla-1nnz71i/

May 6, 2020 ... You may have noticed that when switching from a CraftBukkit based version such as Spigot or Paper, to the Vanilla Minecraft JAR, your Nether ...

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[pallid otter]

vanilla: 1 world folder with dimensions inside of it
spigot: each dimension has its own folder in root director

[brave radish]

When you start Spigot, it unpacks them into the three different folders so you don't notice

Until you go back to vanilla; then you have a problem

[golden gust]

craftbukkit had multi-dimension support in place properly before vanilla did

and when vanilla added their stuff, it wasn't all that compatible with how CB worked, and so CB basically just stuck to their own layout

[void void]

i did notice thatn when using paper there is 3 folders

that makes sense i guess lol

so if i go to spigot can i make a new folder for end/nether

and move them around etc

[golden gust]

moving to anything CB based from vanilla based will auto migrate for you

going back to vanilla based, you need to move the DIM folder from the end/nether world folder into the world folder itself

[void void]

ohh ok

my redstone broke when i went to spigot

couldnt figure it out

i went back to vanilla and it worked

was like tf lol

it was a villager/minecart unloader thing whatever that rail is called

it wasnt ejecting the villager properly 😦

[potent fossil]

@fallen oracle 0.2 is deployed, and 0.1 is still there to answer your earlier question

[tropic flame]

so, discord broke

no pictures or videos show with previews

[brave radish]

I believe that works fine in Paper. Otherwise you can open an issue cuz no one broke that on purpose

[tropic flame]

they show like any other binary file

bruh

[void void]

on .17

[viscid remnant]

just wondering but is the video loaded?

[brave radish]

Well Paper 1.17 just "came out" today and that's a seriously flawed alpha release

[viscid remnant]

because for some reason it isnt. it's just downloadable for me which is weird

[tropic flame]

that's what I am talking about

[void void]

yaaa im not touching that yet lol

[viscid remnant]

mhm thanks. I think it a CDN issue

[viscid remnant]

^^ its not to be used for production. It's to help them with finding bugs (paper 1.17)

[brave radish]

So it didn't work on Spigot 1.17 you mean?

[tropic flame]

funnily enough though, emojis work

[void void]

correct

[viscid remnant]

Idk why. They're stored in the CDN but i think they use a different thing perhaps?

it could be that "cached" stuff is stored fine but new stuff isnt

[tropic flame]

lmao i wonder if discord will show me a download button if i add a new emoji then

[viscid remnant]

Just to let you know paper/spigot mechanics are somewhat different to vanilla

This is due to the optimisation done so some stuff like farms wont work on paper/spigot when they work on vanilla. This is probs one of them

[viscid remnant]

I mean.. On the browser you can save image easily? i just click on it and it'd letme download them

[tropic flame]

yeah emojis just work

only files seem to be affected

[viscid remnant]

https://discordstatus.com/incidents/wwyvz5rpy95h

seems like they're aware

[tropic flame]

beautiful

[void void]

https://youtu.be/RDFxhpQkqww?t=778

thats what broke

at that timestamp*

13:00

[brave radish]

FYI that exploit itself was patched, though idk what you're talking ab with the rails. Lemme look

[void void]

where the villager gets unloaded on to that little pathway between the glass

[ember raven]

What a bad idea is it that with the build they gave from 1.17, I started pre-generating a new world?

[wind geyser]

Photos died

[brave radish]

Probably so

[tropic flame]

it works again now

[brave radish]

Works fine for me. Are you saying the villager doesn't get ejected at all or it gets ejected at the wrong time?

[void void]

ejected at wrong time

too soon

[tropic flame]

villager was the impostor

[void void]

i think he hits the glass or something?

[brave radish]

ahhh ok I'll build it exactly like the video then

[tropic flame]

villagsus

[void void]

because he gets out but hes not in the pathway hes outside of it

and free to roam about XD

[fallen oracle]

Well that's good.

I'll have to see if MCB can make any use of it.

[potent fossil]

can prob switch the spigot author to username lookup instead of id at minimum

ill do it at some point

[fallen oracle]

Will that provide us any benefit?

[brave radish]

That thing works perfectly for me @void void , on the experimental 1.17 build

[void void]

interesting...

[brave radish]

It seems a bit of a hacky design to begin with, but it works

[void void]

.optimization

.optimize

[limber knot]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/

additional tips for improving server performance - https://www.spigotmc.org/posts/3684550

[feral nebula]

I'm really hoping for tomorrow as I won't be able to launch my server again until tuesday

[wooden juniper]

debating on going full idiot mode

and running the win 11 insider build on my pc

as my daily driver

[void void]

🇱🇾

me waiting frantically for paper 1.17

[void void]

send pls i need

[wooden juniper]

use google

[void void]

whats a google

[waxen panther]

stop

😡

[void void]

i use NETSCAPE 1.0

[warm junco]

libya no

[merry talon]

The windows 11 leak I saw was literally just a different start menu

wtf is the point

[void void]

new kernel

[wooden juniper]

it's not just a new start menu

[brave radish]

I don't even like the new start menu

[wooden juniper]

alot of UI changes

that look clean as hell

[void void]

^

[merry talon]

are half the settings still buried in control panel

[wooden juniper]

didn't check yet

[void void]

good

i like control panel

[vast idol]

When did folders stop refreshing on their own in windows btw? Lol. I noticed lately if i download a file etc it doesnt show up until i refresh the folder im in

[void void]

it alows me to navigate my new personal computer

[golden gust]

I mean, microsoft wants to get rid of it

[wooden juniper]

sadly

[golden gust]

but they're basically doing a really shit job of it

[wooden juniper]

win+r -> control

i hope they won't fully remove it anytime soon

[golden gust]

they kinda can't

unless they wanna provide something to replace all of its like hooks

[wooden juniper]

ye

[vast idol]

They simplified windows, making it 6x harder to use for those of us who know PCs lol

[wooden juniper]

just stick with win7

problem solved

[merry talon]

They really need to just redo it from the ground up at this point

[golden gust]

I mean, I remember using XP for the first time

going into the control panel

holy fuck.

Am so glad that the classic view was still there

[peak ginkgo]

No, it just kind of happened to work out like this.

[merry talon]

[wooden juniper]

i still need to take the verified mod exam

im lazy

i just want the badge tbh, looks nice

[merry talon]

You don't get it just for completing the exam

[wooden juniper]

i know

[void void]

Welcome to Microsoft Windows XP. Make you computer come to life. Experience the best, experience windows XP.

[vast idol]

But who remembers Vista i never even got it

[golden gust]

XP was and always will be microsofts best OS

[void void]

i used it since 2019

[void void]

i disagree

xp control panel was hard to navigate

[golden gust]

Vista actually wasn't all too bad once they fixed the initial bugs and OEMs actually did their job of releasing competent hardware with their machines

[void void]

i think windows 7 is best

[vast idol]

WAIT!! Windows Millennium 😂😂

[wooden juniper]

i sadly get reminded of it, almost daily

[golden gust]

7 was meh

[wooden juniper]

alot of the customers that call us still use vista...

and when I ask them about stuff regarding their wifi settings and what not

it's a pita

[golden gust]

I mean, compared to vista release, it was fire, but, 7 in general was kinda 'eh

[void void]

ur meh

[golden gust]

When 7 was out, I was still using XP as it was just lighter and offered more resources for gaming and such

[vast idol]

I enjoyed both xp and 7 fairly well

[golden gust]

like, 7 was fine, but, I don't think it was a bastian of anything

[merry talon]

I never got to experience 7 on good hardware

So it was always a slog

[golden gust]

I mean, compared to vista and the abomination that was 8, I can see why people loved 7

But, it was still a sludgy OS

[paper jackal]

@mighty storm hi uwu

[vast idol]

when was 10 released? Im sure its been much longer than i realize

[golden gust]

2017?

[upbeat falcon]

Windows 10 - release information | Microsoft Docs

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/release-information

Feature updates for Windows 10 are released twice a year, around March and September, via the Semi-Annual Channel. They will be serviced with monthly ...

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[merry talon]

amazing

[golden gust]

oh, 2015, damn

[waxen panther]

It's been a minute

[vast idol]

Wow lol

Yep much longer than i expected

[merry talon]

It's very different now than it was in the beginning though

[paper jackal]

windows 11 soon eh>

[merry talon]

kind of a nothing burger on release

[golden gust]

Well, yea, I mean, we've basically had multiple different OSes down the line

Just, much smaller in a general sense but the faster releases means that features actually get on the table in a timely manner

e.g. We've had WSL 1 and 2 in the past few years

None of that would of been viable with the previous release cycle they had

[vast idol]

Windows app store tho ughhh. Doesnt even actually uninstall half the apps if you uninstall them, and takes an act of congress to even get your pc to allow you to open the folders

[karmic harness]

I wonder how much of a performance hog windows 11 will be.

[vast idol]

Minimum ram 4gb (recommended 64gb) lmao

[paper jackal]

lol

[golden gust]

last I knew they where talking about getting like macOS level sandboxing stuff

so, good luck

[vast idol]

Last time they wanted to be Apple windows 8 happened (yeah we all try to pretend that one never existed)

[wooden juniper]

what pisses me off about minecraft dungeons

if you just get the xbox game pass, you can't use the native mc launcher

you need to download dungeons from the microsoft store

[vast idol]

Never played it. How is it?

[merry talon]

looks cool for about an hour

not much to it lol

[cosmic raft]

hi Sweepy

[merry talon]

o/

[golden gust]

i saw the demos for it and it looked kinda cool but looked like something you'd maybe play once at most

[cosmic raft]

hi cat

[vast idol]

Basically like Diablo 1 but worse? (Diablo 1 was quite awesome during its time)

[golden gust]

Like, from what I saw, it tried to act like a dungener but didn't really deliver on what you'd expect

hai kash

[royal kernel]

was as linux around yet when Vista was around?

[merry talon]

I'd give it a shot if I had someone to play with

[golden gust]

and, given that it doesn't support macOS, I'd have to reboot over to windows

[cosmic raft]

yes hello

[vast idol]

Vista came out at least 15 years later than linux

[golden gust]

and, I mean, my justification for buying windows games is often, "would I be fucked to reboot for it"

[upbeat falcon]

Linux - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux

listen) LEEN-uuks or /ˈlɪnʊks/ LIN-uuks) is a family of open-source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first ...

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[wooden juniper]

basically

linux exists since 1991

to answer ur question @royal kernel

[royal kernel]

Thanks

[merry talon]

ahem

what you're referring to as linux...

[golden gust]

Unix was released in 69

[vast idol]

I didnt own a pc until i was 18 so before that i dont know what happened lol

[golden gust]

I mean, I like watching up on history and such

it's kinda funny how computing went

[magic river]

Just be glad we have a bus

[royal kernel]

Solaris

[vast idol]

my first device i had to access www was a sega dreamcast

[golden gust]

Like, 1973 was when the first like, "desktop" OS came out with all the clicky buttons and such

[magic river]

Alto doesn't count

That was a research project

I mean, it was first but you couldn't buy one

[golden gust]

I mean, yea, it was a research project which kinda failed to get any traction elsewhere

but, last I knew, that was what ended up pushing people to actually make OSes with WIMP

[magic river]

I want to say Norton Commander and similar things had mouse selection support (or maybe joystick?) before the Mac was a thing

[golden gust]

It is kinda funny about how much there is in computer history where something was just released too early, before people knew they wanted it or it was affordable, and how many times a company passed down something which might have been a winner in the aims of tryna stick in a safety net

[magic river]

Well, not Norton Commander itself, that came out in 1986

[floral mesa]

apple was one of the early companies that pushed a GUI based computers onto the consumer market

[magic river]

Could have sworn there was a two pane file browser with mouse support before that though

[floral mesa]

and did a good job at it

[golden gust]

I mean, I guess the dos mouse selection stuff was a bit of a precursor but was somewhat limited

[vast idol]

I remember as a kid my best friend having Prodigy, before www was a thing

[teal cedar]

Who says it's still not going like that?

What tech are we sleeping on now

[golden gust]

I think somebody beat MS to "windows 1" type stuff, and DOS had some stuff which kinda tried

[teal cedar]

That will be a winner in 30 years

[magic river]

There was GEM in 1984, an actual WIMP GUI on top of DOS

[golden gust]

I mean, the thing with tech, is that we're a lot further than we actually are, in a sense

A lot of stuff sits around ready for it to actually be made into something the public can consume

imagine putting a modern windows PC in an office in 1980

[royal kernel]

has anyone here ever used Unix or Oracle Solaris?

[magic river]

Imagine starting WW3 because you put a modern windows PC in an office in 1980

[floral mesa]

there is no single unix OS

[magic river]

Please don't call it Oracle Solaris 😛

[teal cedar]

We already have aliens in Area 51!

[golden gust]

I toyed with Solaris for the lulz once but that was fast to be rm'd

[vast idol]

really young people now are getting dumber with pc tech in general. It was always there to them but yet they dont understand any of it. PC skills are way less now with the average person

[magic river]

That OS has been dead since before Oracle bought Sun, they're just keeping the corpse moving for people who can't move to anything else

[merry talon]

If we have aliens, they're most certainly not where everyone thinks they'd be

[ancient bolt]

hi I found a bug running paper 1.17 on TempleOS who do I report the bug to?

[golden gust]

Pretty sure things like GPS where in use by the millitary for yeeeeeaaars before they gave it to civilians

[royal kernel]

Sorry, Sun micro systems Solaris

[floral mesa]

there was research unix, but for the consumer market, there is usually a bastardized version of it, HPUX, IBM AIX, Solaris, etc.

[merry talon]

god

[teal cedar]

I mean the Internet was for military too, right?

[golden gust]

Yup

[vast idol]

Morgan Freeman takes bug reports?? Nice

[magic river]

We know GPS was in use by the military for years before they gave it to us

[brave radish]

I believe is the resident expert on strange OSs

[magic river]

They only gave it to us because a commercial plane flew across a border they shouldn't have

[golden gust]

I mean, I didn't remember the exact timeframe so didn't wanna overstate it :L

But, yea

[floral mesa]

even then we dont have full access to GPS

[ancient bolt]

well there was political pressure because other GPS-like systems were being built too (or at least teased at being built) and they didn't want that to become the standard instead of a US thing

[floral mesa]

the military still scrambles some of the signal to make it slightly inaccurate

[magic river]

First satellites for GPS went up in 1978, we didn't get access until after Korean Air Flight 007 in 1983

And yeah, we get something like meter accuracy while the military gets centimeter

[merry talon]

[citation needed]

[royal kernel]

but we dont really need pin point accuracy, for say driving

[ancient bolt]

you can't build ICBMs with consumer GPS chips either

[golden gust]

It's more the fact that the technology exists for it and they could easily release it for all but they don't wanna

and, yea LOL

[ancient bolt]

if you put it in a rocket the GPS chip will stop responding if it exceeds a particular speed limit

[merry talon]

If I had the resources to build an ICBM I'm sure I could find a way around that issue

[ancient bolt]

I mean you'd have to build your own GPS chip which is...non-trivial

[royal kernel]

how expensive would that be tho, even if the tech exists it does not mean its economic, otherwise im sure a company would try and pofit on it

[ancient bolt]

whole lot more difficult to build a new IC vs a rocket

[vast idol]

Just wait until the right solar flare comes along and the world crumbles lol

[cosmic raft]

wizjany

[ancient bolt]

I ping him first right

[merry talon]

Wouldn't someone be more likely to just shadily get their hands on a chip that doesn't have that limiter

[magic river]

Any company that made a GPS chip that allowed use above 60,000 feet or faster than 1,000 mph would be sanctioned by the US, at the very least

[cosmic raft]

obv den

[ancient bolt]

who is making those chips though?

and how?

[merry talon]

idk I'm not in the business of building nukes

[golden gust]

I mean, 1 chip is 1 chip

no doubt the security around the manf of those chips is fucking crazy

and, how far are you gonna get with a singular chip?

[cosmic raft]

den

[ancient bolt]

good choice

whole album is a banger

[magic river]

Huh, it sounds like these days commercial GPS devices can get 30 cm accuracy, that's pretty good

Only high end ones made after 2018 though

[merry talon]

I just.. there are millitaries in this world that certainly shouldn't be trusted with ICBMs that do have them

Do you trust them to not let things slip through the cracks?

[ancient bolt]

Well sure, but they don't use GPS

[merry talon]

ah

[ancient bolt]

either that or they have specific agreements with the US military

[magic river]

The US can selectively block GPS signals for a region of the planet

Or rather, scramble them so only their stuff works

[ancient bolt]

GLONASS is Russia's version of GPS, BeiDou is China's, Galileo is the EU's

[golden gust]

pretty sure china has their own GPS alternative up in space if not in progress

Russia has GLONASS

[elfin gyro]

;-;

[merry talon]

TIL

[ancient bolt]

GPS is a specific system run by the US military

India has NavIC, Japan has QZSS

[magic river]

Japan has one too, right now it just builds on GPS but is focused on accuracy in their region but they plan to make it an independent thing

ninja'd

[ancient bolt]

yeah only GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, and maybe BeiDou are properly "global" systems

cause it takes lots of satellites to do that

[cosmic raft]

let's make PaperPS