general

[warm anchor]

I was under the impression even the "8.2k" paid by insurance isnt the real number? Like they work their shit under the hood and that's just a paper statment?

[potent fossil]

i mean the total was 10k

give or take some dollars and cents

[warm anchor]

I mean in the hospital part, they negotiate with each individual insurance company for the payout so naturally, they jack up the bill to allow them with more head rooms for negotiation. Which, in turns, fuck the people that are uninsured and those who paid cash.

[potent fossil]

Yea I mean, the reason the bill is so high is because that's the highest insurance will pay. They definitely have deals up top, and it trickles down to hurt the people. It's major fucked.

However, if you pay in cash, they will lower the bill because they're not dealing with insurance. True story. You can shave thousands.

For the uninsured, they are expected to go on a cash payment plan anyway which ^

Hospitals actually prefer people who pay cash because dealing with insurance and getting them to say yes to a procedure or whatever is sometimes nigh impossible

Definitely certain people have died before bc insurance said they wouldn't pay

[warm anchor]

in some state, they also allow hospital to write off certain "uncollectable bills" as tax credits so yeah in those situation, they will also help you.

[potent fossil]

But overall, our medical system is very dystopian if you ask me

My dad got his legs cut off 22 years ago now and we're still paying them bills off

[warm anchor]

wtf!

[potent fossil]

Well, my parents are. I love em but I won't take over that debt

It happened when I was literally 1 year old

[woven otter]

wtf

[warm anchor]

medical bills are unsecured debt

if your parent really have nothing they can collect, just get a lawyer and fuck those bills

it will just fuck with the credit scores but if your parents already old and owns houses etc, they can be care less about those shit.

[limpid comet]

I'm part of the cool kids club now

Copped that pfizer

[warm anchor]

first or 2nd?

I wanna watch you sufffer blue

[potent fossil]

it happened in a fairly remote lake, he was run over by a boat with a prop engine and it severed one leg completed and eviscerated the other. he prob would've died but there were 2 nurses on the adjacent dock on the lake, and they kept him from bleeding out.

what we're still paying off: the emergency helicopter from stanford hospital to the remote area, the in-air ICU or whatever back to stanford, his ICU time, his surgeries to take off the rest of the eviscerated leg (gore ||it was still there, like foot and toes but inside was all gone, it was just held there by a tendon rip||), and the prosthetics

[tropic flame]

the trick is to win the destiny lottery and be born in the middle of the jungle so no one has any registries of you

that way they can't hit you with debt /s

[potent fossil]

have y'all seen the god damn price of prosthetic feet dear christr

quarter milly bois

well they were 22 years ago anyway

[warm anchor]

wtf gimple

that's horrible

on a plus side, your dad can achive one of the best halloween prank now

[limpid comet]

First

[limpid comet]

First

[potent fossil]

yep he does do that

[warm anchor]

oh let me know when you get your 2nd. That's where the suffering is at. ask gimple

[warm anchor]

scare them kids

[potent fossil]

he has a stick that he can hit the knee lock with and he chases kids (like slow jog) and he'll hit the stick at the exact right place and his leg will fall off very dramatically and it scares the ever loving shit out of them kids i swear to god

we get sobbers every year

[limpid comet]

Gimple my boy what did bio n tech do to you

[potent fossil]

wat

[vestal jasper]

@potent fossil hi

[potent fossil]

@vestal jasper hi

[twin lagoon]

@vestal jasper uwu

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

[vestal jasper]

I'd kill to have that second filter just... permanently applied

I'd look cute as fuck

[twin lagoon]

what filter

[potent fossil]

it is pre cute

[viral hornet]

probably some fuck boi snapchat filter

[potent fossil]

it is

[vestal jasper]

[twin lagoon]

that's ok

josh is OUR fuckboi

[viral hornet]

[vestal jasper]

i'd rather be a cute fuckboi than ugly and miserable

[viral hornet]

speaking of cute fuckbois

How you doing @quasi valley

[frank otter]

I don't know what a 'fuckboi' is and I'm not 100% sure I wanna know

[quasi valley]

[viral hornet]

[potent fossil]

listen carefully for i will say this once

they are bois, who are only out to fuck

hence, fuckboi

[frank otter]

Ah

that makes sense

is it a good position tk be in socially or no

[potent fossil]

no

[frank otter]

OK thanks

you are a good explainer

[potent fossil]

well if you're a fuckboi yes

fuckbois love being fuckbois

[viral hornet]

yes

[potent fossil]

these two here,,,, they are fuckbois. camm and josh.

[vestal jasper]

Ok listen only for you simple

You're the only catch I'm pitching for

[potent fossil]

Josh that was a nice exhale of the devil's lettuce

10/10

[tropic flame]

https://goodayfriends.com/question/queen-elizabeth-gives-sex-toy-company-a-top-award-for-outstanding-growth-why/

[vestal jasper]

Thanks I used to do blinkers but I think that's what killed my lung

[potent fossil]

I have no idea what blinkers are lmao

[vestal jasper]

15 second intake

[viral hornet]

Wait what

[potent fossil]

i used to do dabs, but i dont have a rig anymore

[viral hornet]

Lovehoney is UK based

[vestal jasper]

Until the mod / battery triggers the safety and shuts off

[potent fossil]

gg

[viral hornet]

Hello @waxen panther

[potent fossil]

i mean my mod can get turned up

its a normal vape mod

[vestal jasper]

Dab pen.

[potent fossil]

yea i've got a dab pen with 510 thread connector just attached to a normal mod. i have it at 6 watts atm but i can turn it up or down to heat the weed more or less

[vestal jasper]

Single button.
5 presses turns on and off.
3 presses cycles power, green, blue, yellow, purple.

[potent fossil]

ok that one might have just sent me to bed josh

[vestal jasper]

Lmao

[potent fossil]

i turned it up to 9w

added some airflow

oh boy

[vestal jasper]

Mine doesn't change airflow sadly. But it's a setup so simple I dont have to think about it much

[potent fossil]

Yeah I've got something like what you have, but it's kinda fucked up

[vestal jasper]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5VBwLOZDyDWInNYIUniuZG?si=j3KURR_gRQSrfSs84XfDpg @potent fossil

Instrumental btw

[waxen panther]

Hello sir how can I help

I’m at spoons

[vestal jasper]

I'm at soup

[potent fossil]

[merry talon]

yes

[viral hornet]

What is this spoons you speak of

[potent fossil]

I just got an email from a random person saying they talked to me in 2016 and found my spigot page and wanted to know if I had discord. Even though my discord is on my spigot page but my email is not

[merry talon]

so the gov looks inside every parcel from them

it's fun

[waxen panther]

briish pub

[potent fossil]

I guess my github might be which has my website which has my email but tf

[viral hornet]

snap

[waxen panther]

😳

[vestal jasper]

@waxen panther @warm anchor
@potent fossil @viral hornet

https://youtu.be/FAUnDDTz30k

[strong notch]

"Minecraft::tickEntity - salmon - tickcount(14) total(35.67% 0.043s, 42.89% of tick)avg(3.06ms per - 21.45ms/7.00 per tick) " what is this? how could it happen?

[viral hornet]

#paper-help

And include your full timings

[vestal jasper]

Add salmon bounties.

[merry talon]

there's a lot of salmon somewhere

[potent fossil]

I agree with him, why is he questioning him for buying clothes at the soup store?

[vestal jasper]

Or a salmon based economy.

Players hunt for salmon and trade them like currency

They'll fix the problem for you

[merry talon]

so basically

Japan RP

[vestal jasper]

Actually sounds like a fun concept to start and quickly kill off

Item based economy but it's fish

[merry talon]

I always thought drug servers were fun

plant based economy

[vestal jasper]

You could even make an island based generator for the server

SoT / wind waker style map

[short yarrow]

So when you guys need to merge a change from master into a feature branch. Do you use git merge or git rebase? I used rebase for that. Now when I want to merge feature back into master if I use git merge some commits will appear twice so I guess I'm stuck with rebase

[unkempt drift]

oh back to this are we 😛

I think you generally, rebase features on top of master, and can use merge commits to put features into master

[worn ember]

whats the difference?

in or ontop

[warm anchor]

[merry talon]

[short yarrow]

So I believe I did this rebase features on top of master, and can use merge commits to put features into master and some commits appeared twice after the merge

[frank otter]

I love this

I wish I could use it

[potent fossil]

@twin lagoon ez scalable mc with statefulset ?

[short yarrow]

I think I goofed

[vernal moth]

You wanna rebase your commits ontop of master

No clue how you would duplicate commits that way

Cause its basically nuking your branch, pulling master, and then adding your feature branch commits ontop of that

Thats what a rebase does

[short yarrow]

Oh I think I just need to rebase again then

[limber knot]

Are you talking about the merge commit

[short yarrow]

So this is what everything looks like before I rebased feature onto master:

master: A -> B -> F
              \
feature:       C -> D -> E

I believe this is what it looks like after the rebase:

master: A -> B -> F
                  \
feature:           C -> D -> E

Where I am now:

master: A -> B -> F -> H -> I
                  \
feature:           C -> D -> E -> G

In this state I did a git checkout master && git merge feature

I'm pretty sure there were two F commits. Same exact message and author but different commit sha

[potent fossil]

🤔

[mental meadow]

I finally set up my ssh keys on wsl correctly so I can actually push things in git

right in time for the update

[potent fossil]

Update?

[mental meadow]

1.17 next week

now I can actually help

[potent fossil]

Oh lol

Thought you meant a WSL update

[mental meadow]

before I had Paper on WSL, intellij running on Windows, changing stuff & patching on WSL and then oopening a git bash on windows to commit stuff lol

[unkempt drift]

WSL 3 wen?

[mossy vessel]

Everytime I read wsl in here I read people having issues with it lol

[brave radish]

see my status

[unkempt drift]

pretty much why I just moved to linux, and can dual boot windows if need be

[peak ginkgo]

yeah i dont like wsl absolutely not

My IntelliJ is stuck tho i cant get it to open

https://u.dejay.dev/🍂📹📷.png

no progress

Can hardly even get the rest of the window to react

[mossy vessel]

I don't use Windows at all so I have no use for it

Everything I need works on arch or on my iMac

[mental meadow]

wsl works perfectly fine for me

[short yarrow]

So if you have a for loop updating something and that update also needs to be reflected in the database, would you do updates in the loop or after? Depending how long the loop is, updating the table could be really expensive right?

[mental meadow]

and I use a weird janky arch wsl

[magic river]

If it needs to be in the DB too it's probably easier to roll the DB back if something goes wrong so I'd loop through and update the DB first

[wispy blade]

or just write your db code to be fail-safe

[ashen cliff]

Transactions.

[wispy blade]

try catch blocks 😔

[magic river]

I was thinking transactions but if there is a reason the transaction can fail to commit then you need to deal with having already made the changes to other things

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-phase_commit_protocol

[vernal moth]

Kek bing is censoring the tank man image

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank+man

https://www.google.com/search?q=tank+man

[unkempt drift]

wtf microsoft

[cunning raft]

iirc bing started offering services in china recently?

[unkempt drift]

I think people were arrested in hong kong for going to a vigil, or protesting, or smth yesterday too

[cunning raft]

could possibly be a reconfiguration leaking over to US servers

[unkempt drift]

or today, or whenever june 4 is

[vernal moth]

Yeah I bet this is a config error

[potent fossil]

if i hypothetically wanted to create a chunk generator that only generates a given schematic and thats it, where would i hypothetically need to start? reading nbt right? or does smth already exist i can hook into or research

[vernal moth]

How big is the schematic

Only one chunk is easy

[potent fossil]

its a few chunks at least

20x20

[vernal moth]

Else it becomes, uhm, interesting

Maybe hook into structures?

[potent fossil]

hmmm

[crystal compass]

bruh what am I missing here https://gyazo.com/a05afbcb57185e2d84b39b45147822c2

[potent fossil]

what are you trying to match

[crystal compass]

anything that starts with /ah

[wraith trail]

^ is only the very first line

need to add m as a flag to match multiple lines in that way

[potent fossil]

https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Needy-Caecilian-58.png and ^

[crystal compass]

perfect thanks

[potent fossil]

and if you want to match the /ah test on the first line, remove the caret

[ancient bolt]

fully switched over to fi now - after I removed the lock on my AT&T account it was really easy to switch

[crystal compass]

yeah I had that in there because I don't want to match that first line

[ancient bolt]

don't have a contract cancellation fee with AT&T or anything cause I always buy my phone directly without going through the carrier, so that's cool

[warm anchor]

Same!

Coz fuck them

I rather paid outright and sell my phone or pass down to my family who wants my old phone 😂

[vernal moth]

Why would you ever buy a phone thru a carrier?

[warm anchor]

They sometimes have better rebate program

That if you stay with entire contract it beats getting them through Apple

This is US so maybe different in EU

[ancient bolt]

it's really common in the US because carriers pretend it's cheaper

and people don't really think about it, so they just go to the store and it sayd "$20 / month" and don't think any more about it past that

[floral mesa]

you end up paying a lot more considering its similar to a loan which you pay monthly

an iphone costing around $999 would be somewhere around $1200-1500 when your done paying for it

[ancient bolt]

but carriers do a good job to hide that from people

you have a monthly wireless payment anyways

so they just tack on some extra amount for you "contract"

the contract is actually just a loan payment, but they'll never call it that

[vernal moth]

Ppl are so dum, lmao

[ancient bolt]

instead, once you've paid it off, they say you're "eligible for an upgrade"

[floral mesa]

its why I bought my phone outright compared to getting it via AT&T.

[ancient bolt]

so people go "oh, I can get a new phone" and just go pick up a new one, which really means getting a new loan etc

[floral mesa]

though, the downside is that you dont get complete assurance that the phone is going to 100% work with the carrier everywhere

[vernal moth]

I never brought a phone via a carrier

[ancient bolt]

but from the average user's perspective they don't realize that it's just loans

[ancient bolt]

that's way less of an issue now than it used to be

[floral mesa]

my phone lacks support for a few bands for AT&T and I get downgraded to 3G

[ancient bolt]

modern iphone and qualcomm radios work on all carriers across all bands

[floral mesa]

not when you are in the countryside

[cunning raft]

I mean typically with the phone financing plans you're usually getting insurance too

[floral mesa]

in the city, your mostly fine, but in more rural areas you get quality issues

[ancient bolt]

i do always check to make sure the phones I buy are fully compatible, but I haven't seen a modern high-end smart phone that doesn't support every band

but there probably are, I only care about a few specific phones

[floral mesa]

a samsung phone from AT&T works fine on LTE in the town im in, whereas my phone has spotty 4G connections in certain areas

[ancient bolt]

oh, another problem with purchasing the phone through the carrier is that, unlike a credit card or standard loan, you can't pay it off any faster

cause you get no visibility into the loan itself, rather you just get a contract fee on your bill

[floral mesa]

well some carriers do allow certain plans to pay it off, but you dont get flexibility on changing it

[ancient bolt]

NOT TO MENTION, when you buy a phone through a carrier it's usually locked to that carrier

[floral mesa]

like 12mo,18mo,24mo, but thats about it

[ancient bolt]

and some carriers force you to PAY THEM in order to unlock the phone

it's just a legal scam

[floral mesa]

I think restricting phones in general should be illegal

[vestal jasper]

Can you give me back my cats thanks

[merry talon]

Carrier locking phones is illegal in canada

[vestal jasper]

They're mine wav reeee

[floral mesa]

sadly right to repair in the US is spotty at best

and right to own your device.

[twin lagoon]

[magic river]

Verizon sells iPhone 12 64GB for $33.33/mo for 24 months or $799.92 while Apple sells it for $799.99

So... those monthly payments aren't charging interest or anything

For some phones they come out pretty much exact, for some you pay a little more, for some you pay a little less

What they do is guarantee you'll stay with Verizon for 24 months which is worth the loan for them

[merry talon]

unless you want to pay it out

you can do that

[cunning raft]

when you buy it out they also reserve the right to end any promotions

like disney+, netflix, apple music, etc

[warm anchor]

And don’t forget hbo

Fuck hbo

[merry talon]

[warm anchor]

When it first came out, they shove it down my throat. I called to cancel coz I will never use it and just generally want to avoid the bullshit JRoy said above.

[quasi valley]

or sulu

[warm anchor]

Took like 5 calls

“It’s free why do you want to remove it?”

“It comes with a promo! It’s completely free!”

[prisma whale]

Does anyone know how to setup a contabo vps?

[warm anchor]

Yeah ask kneny. His rate is $500 an hour plus additional sneaker bar per minute after

[prisma whale]

@quasi valley do you have any tutorials on youtube or anywhere on how to setup a contabo vps?

Like to split the vps so I can host multiple things on it or even go on it lol

I don't even know how to access inside the vps

[quasi valley]

I require advance payment, double the amount for the first hour for new customers.

tho I have to admit, this sadly is out of my area of expertise, I'll only bill you for 2 minutes of my time for that

[waxen panther]

Hi there mister

[ashen cliff]

Bro. Install Proxmox on it.

Simple.

[twin lagoon]

Bro.

[waxen panther]

KGBmox.

[potent fossil]

proxmox is kinda sexy

[ashen cliff]

They should have nested virtualization enabled.

SHOULD being the keyword.

[twin lagoon]

KGB Enterprise Linux

[potent fossil]

is there a way an image of a request 'path' from gateway all the way down to pod and container on k8s using some dashboard or smth? 🤔

[twin lagoon]

what

[potent fossil]

i only ask because it seems like that would look cool

[twin lagoon]

oh

cilium hubble should have that

a visualization of all pod networking

[potent fossil]

hngggg

[waxen panther]

michael xx

[twin lagoon]

kori xx

[waxen panther]

😳

[potent fossil]

can i get hubble if im on DO cause i saw they have cilium set up

[twin lagoon]

good question

don't know how they setup cilium

[potent fossil]

ok use your celebrity status to go call the ceo of digitalocean and find out

[twin lagoon]

not being paid enough for this

[left swift]

Hubble bubble

Trouble

Double

Sounds like an ice cream flavor from a shop in San Francisco

Double hubble bubble trouble with gummy worms please

Thank you

[meager tusk]

Least performant balkan OS.

[twin lagoon]

Bro!

[ashen cliff]

Bro!

[shell vine]

hehe click my name

[twin lagoon]

[shell vine]

its a lot better than that auto color banner

i have not experienced that since using netscape navigator lmao

[magic river]

Those are still pretty big but what I run in to more often are stackoverflow clones

It's technically legal for them to download SO and make their own site with all the content but they're just farming ads, you can't make posts on there or anything

[novel horizon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HumansBeingBros/comments/nqvp7v/this_sweet_grandma_couldnt_get_her_neighbours_on/

[brave radish]

Now I want tacos 😔

[warm anchor]

[waxen panther]

[vestal jasper]

@waxen panther when you when you're do ever when you

[waxen panther]

wat

[vestal jasper]

random youtube comment I found

really spoke to me on an emotional level

[warm anchor]

Vic wtf you read YT comment??

[vestal jasper]

if i'm extremely bored and watching a video that's primarily audio based I'll often browse the comments

[young cloak]

just a question, what bug fix do paper fix?

[lean kiln]

a lot

[vestal jasper]

there's no list, just, a lot

[warm anchor]

Many. You will have to look at paper GH and find out

[vestal jasper]

your best answer would be to go through the server patches

[warm anchor]

Or you can tell me which one you want to use. I think I have them on top of my head

[young cloak]

where is the server patch?

[upbeat falcon]

PaperMC/Paper: High performance Spigot ...

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper
Paper GitHub Workflow Status (branch). High performance Spigot fork that aims to fix gameplay and mechanics inconsistencies. Support and Project Discussion:.,PaperMC,Pull requests

Requested by Amaranth#2954 - paper minecraft github - result 1 of 9

[brave radish]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/tree/master/Spigot-Server-Patches to be precise. If you want to know about absolutely every fix, you have to read all of these, but then there are also the ones fixed by Spigot

[young cloak]

cause i just want to know did it affect anything with witch hut farm or not?

[vestal jasper]

try it and see

[brave radish]

witch hut farm? what does that have to do with bugs being fixed?

[magic river]

I think the basic entity spawn radius stuff would break those

[brave radish]

does it rely on some exploit?

[young cloak]

no

[magic river]

Set the spawn radius to your view distance

[vestal jasper]

if what you're doing doesn't rely on bugs or exploits then you're probably safe, otherwise you can bring it up here and then have it discussed

[magic river]

Spigot tries to be clever and only spawn mobs next to you so it looks normal but you have less entities

[young cloak]

so tnt duper is gone? because it a bug

[brave radish]

yes

.tntdupe

[limber knot]

Having problems with TNT Duping, Bedrock Breaking or Sand Duping Vanilla Exploits? See: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3854 for information.

[brave radish]

but there is config ^^

[magic river]

There is config for some exploits but not others

[young cloak]

and can you go up to the nether roof?

[brave radish]

Pretty sure yes

At least last I tried, with the ender pearl ladder thingy

[unkempt drift]

Isn’t there a block breaking exploit fix?

Oh, idk the latest “get on the roof” methods

[brave radish]

I'm not sure if that weird piston trick to break a whole in the roof from the top works on Paper though

[magic river]

We just punched a single hole in the bedrock at 0,0 back in the day

[wraith trail]

breaking is, but you can still do it on paper to a point (just getting through isn't afaik)

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5773 this works for roof as well

[young cloak]

what is a good trading hall set up?

[magic river]

Then again we also had a WG region for the area above the roof to block building there too

[brave radish]

that one was pretty old; place a ladder where the bedrock is one layer thick, ender pearl so your feet are on that ladder, and you can hold space to go up through the roof

[young cloak]

just asking

[brave radish]

I would just build a giant platform in the sky filled with villagers and beds and let them be miserable

[magic river]

This isn't Terraria

[unkempt drift]

Not fans of the peopleplaystyle that do basic plain apartment buildings for the NPCs in terraria

I love the building part of terraria, so I always try to have unique houses

[vestal jasper]

I'd personally just give players access to the roof officially

May as well give them some way to do it that will work across versions etc

Instead of having them resort to bugs to get there

[unkempt drift]

oh, you mean on a server?

[vestal jasper]

yes

[unkempt drift]

this world height extension... can you decrease it? can just make the nether 128 and then it doesnt really matter

[vestal jasper]

I imagine so

[broken rampart]

What’s the consensus on paper vs hmod

Considering switching

[cunning raft]

we just can't compete

do what you gotta to do

[broken rampart]

Thanks I can now fit 1000 players per instance

[waxen panther]

hi i am here to announce my new server software written in kotlin, it can hold 2000 players and is blazing fast

it cannot yet load worlds or deal with entities

[golden gust]

does it have entities?

lol

[waxen panther]

no the packets go straight into dev null

[golden gust]

where they belong

dev null is web scale BAABBBY

[waxen panther]

TRUE

[lean kiln]

bababoey?

[pulsar wigeon]

"the server responds to server list ping packets with a motd that says 'go play singleplayer nerd' and drops all further packets"

[cunning raft]

"it is still a work in progress"

[vestal jasper]

I mean that's all you need for feature parity with most custom server implementations

[undone crest]

How did you guys get into coding

Like did it occur at a very young age

[golden gust]

self hatred

[undone crest]

lmao

the plugins.yml, when I edit the values there

its not coding right

[golden gust]

programming*

and, generally, not really, but, in the scheme of things, yes

[viral hornet]

good morning everyone excluding zzzCat

[unkempt drift]

brb, coding up some datapacks

[golden gust]

MM is cancer prove me wrong

[undone crest]

is learning html going to make learning js not as difficult?

I'm going to learn html!

[golden gust]

Camm, your opinion is invalid

[vestal jasper]

sorry

[viral hornet]

Why r u always so mean to me 😔

[golden gust]

html and js are two entierely different stories

[vestal jasper]

camm ur opinion matters to me

[golden gust]

html is markup, js is actual programming and logic

[viral hornet]

ty Josh ❤️

[golden gust]

js will "do stuff", but, html just defines elements on a page, and is virtually useless with CSS too

[vestal jasper]

mastering doom eternal doesn't inherently make you better at say animal crossing

[golden gust]

you don't need to be a pro with html and CSS to get anywhere with JS, many tutorials for JS which involve sites will often hold your hand there, but, it's the foundations of web stuff

[unkempt drift]

HTML > C
change my mind

[undone crest]

so does it mean that the tags that I learned (e.g. <b> <i> <div>) won't help in anything related to js

I will just go straight to js, damn cause I know its painful to see my questions sometimes (or everytime)

[unkempt drift]

Well, js and html usually go together in stuff relating to web design

[golden gust]

js does stuff

html defines elements on the web page

css styles those elements

They all inter connect together to make most modern websites

and as said, most JS tuts around website stuff will often focus on the JS and feed you the HTML/CSS, but, they are something which you really wanna learn if you wanna do front-end web stuff

[undone crest]

no I want to learn js so that I can understand plugins more in minecraft

[golden gust]

js has nothing to do with plugins

[undone crest]

ohh

what is *.jar

[golden gust]

There are some loader things for it but nobody really uses them outside of schools and such

java

[unkempt drift]

Minecraft is written in Java

Java and JavaScript are not related

[undone crest]

damn if you never told me that I would've went to the really wrong end of the road

lmao thank you kind one

[unkempt drift]

JavaScript was just created when Java was hot and wanted to capitalize on Java’s name

From my understanding.

Also, the syntax isn’t crazy different, except for the whole typing situation 😅

[golden gust]

syntax in most languages these days is derived from C or some C derivative, especially if they wanna go big

[unkempt drift]

Oh, looks like Netscape also supported Java applets which is a part of the name

[cunning raft]

pretty sure oracle owns the javascript trademark

[waxen panther]

pretty sure i own jroy

[cunning raft]

ok

[magic river]

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/556855-reports-cox-media-group-websites-hacked-in-ransomware-attack

[unkempt drift]

Seriously, al gore needs to just unplug the internet

[magic river]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/under-exploit-vmware-vulnerability-with-severity-rating-of-9-8-out-of-10/

[merry talon]

I mean

I would certainly learn js over java

so it wouldn't have been the wrong direction necessarily lol

[brave radish]

but JS is ew and Java is ❤️

[golden gust]

they're both solid options right now job market wise

[magic river]

JS will get you more interesting jobs, Java is more likely to get you a job

[brave radish]

If you want proof that JS is ew, just look at the number of languages that transpile to it 👀

[golden gust]

admitting that the job market is kinda dead globally righ tnow

JS is EW, but, ew pays

We're not devs because we love ourselves

[merry talon]

js is only ew when you're straight up writing js

[warm anchor]

That's a lot of screens

[golden gust]

if you ever wanna really punish yourself, learn Cobol

[magic river]

COBOL will ensure you have a job for life so long as you're at least a little competent

You don't even have to be very good

[merry talon]

these days you would be writing typescript

[warm anchor]

dont get a job zcat we need you to work on paper

[merry talon]

Pay up then

[viral hornet]

There's a lot of jobs available here for developers that know that language lmao

I actually had to google wtf it was

[merry talon]

You say developer as if one would actively develop things in cobol

it's more so 'let's have this person on staff in case this weird 50 year old monolith decides to blow up and we need to fix it'

[magic river]

Nope, those things are under active development

[merry talon]

then again they actually might

God damnit

[golden gust]

bearing in mind the infra that this stuff often supports is required to be up 24/7 in the modern world and replacing it is a multi-year potentially multi-decade effort to get all the work done and certified

[magic river]

Insider info I wasn't supposed to hear was that JP Morgan tried rewriting their COBOL to Java and after a multi-year project they pulled it off but the new system was buggy and slower than what they had before

[merry talon]

[magic river]

Dunno if they were going to bite the bullet and keep at it until it got better or go back

[golden gust]

Like, replacing it should probs be a goal for any company considering time moves forward

But, the costs and compliance and many places have strict requirements around processing speeds, etc

[magic river]

It was my boss's boss's boss at a previous job talking about something he heard from a former coworker who went to JPMC

[merry talon]

can't wait until the power grid depends on is-odd

[brave radish]

I just helped someone who got stuck for two hours because they installed one python library to the wrong folder

one cd command cost two hours

[merry talon]

is that because his program took two hours to run before outputting the error

[wind geyser]

I have so many friends

[cunning raft]

@waxen panther ^^^^^

[waxen panther]

average minecraft player friend amount

[wind geyser]

true

feelssadman

[unreal pike]

was hex support added as part of a version update or something plugins did?

[cunning raft]

average league player: -14

[cunning raft]

1.16 added support for hex colors on the client

[unreal pike]

thank you

[waxen panther]

please

[cunning raft]

you're right

-15

[waxen panther]

average destiny watcher: whats a friend

[wind geyser]

what about the average roblox player?

I haven't played roblox in years so I couldn't say anything about this

[cunning raft]

@waxen panther u mad bro

[wind geyser]

tbh, out of all of my friends that are in my discord server and on my mc server, only two people (including me) regularly play the server. The other person is my best friend

we have fun, but it gets really boring after a while

I'm actually thinking about shutting down my server, but I don't know when I'm going to do it

and I spent hours working on the server for it to be barely used

possibly even days

[warm anchor]

Just keep it on

[wind geyser]

I could, but it wastes money

it's also slow since it's only running on a Core 2 Quad

The "server" is more than a decade old

[unreal pike]

is it possible to use newer features like command autofill and hex colors while using 1.8 plugins?

[brave radish]

1.8 had a sort of autofill, didn't it?

[golden gust]

depends

for legacy strings you can xRRBBGG, each with a & before the character

as for command autofil, the API deals with that

[unreal pike]

alright

[golden gust]

or, well, server

[wind geyser]

https://twitter.com/verge/status/1400711836048236544?s=21
Can someone please tell me why someone would do this?

The Verge (@verge)

A very sus chicken nugget shaped like an Among Us crewmate sells for $99,997 on eBay https://t.co/Yo27NjnKvG

Retweets

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Likes

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Twitter · Jun 4, 2021, 7:11 AM

[lean kiln]

to launder money

[waxen panther]

jomp moment

[golden gust]

people buy anything these days

[wind geyser]

True, but this thing makes me wanna jump off a bridge

[golden gust]

||Just ask William Shatner, who hawked his kidney stone for a whopping $75,000 in 2006 and donated the proceeds to charity|| [ew]

[wind geyser]

I think the charity part is cool tbh

[ancient bolt]

I would love to sell some random rock I found outside for 100k, anyone wanna buy?

[wind geyser]

Sold

[ancient bolt]

dope

[wind geyser]

I’ll give you my Lamborghini for that rock

/s

I wish I had one though

But at the same time. I don’t want to damage it

I’ll buy that rock for 500k

Imagine if someone actually bought a friggen rock for 500k

[golden gust]

looks at nasa

[wind geyser]

True

[brave radish]

LOL

[unkempt drift]

Y’all didn’t hear about the invisible statue that sold for $18k

[brave radish]

I heard, but I didn't see any proof

[cosmic raft]

https://i.imgur.com/6VvFEtX.mp4

[viral hornet]

aww

bye kash 😔

[brave radish]

idk; is he a programmer?

not unless you're a pterodactyl developer 👀

[potent fossil]

custom made plugins from scratch in under 30 minutes for this job

you dont want this job anyway, i guarantee you so fucking hard

just run

[untold copper]

gm bois

[warm anchor]

sounds like a scammer

[potent fossil]

no clue what the man is talkin bout panels and software

[warm anchor]

can be just a 12 year old master hacker

[untold copper]

i go study bai

[warm anchor]

snoopa

snoopa

[untold copper]

yes?

[warm anchor]

do you have your own MC server?

[waxen panther]

a

[untold copper]

I did

Not anymore tho

why do you ask?

[warm anchor]

I wanna sell you out to Oracle

that's why

[untold copper]

D:

ok you do that i go study and focus on things that are actually important

[waxen panther]

wtf

[warm anchor]

wtf I am not important??

[waxen panther]

mr talks about doing important things while he's on discord

[warm anchor]

[waxen panther]

[short yarrow]

So if you use libraries that use SLF4J do you guys configure an implementation for it? or do you just leave it unconfigured

[vestal jasper]

nonono not custom, costum

[potent fossil]

depends if i want logging ig

[vestal jasper]

they want costume plugins smh my head

[potent fossil]

smh

[vestal jasper]

dimple I got brownie stuff

[potent fossil]

[untold copper]

ha you wish

[warm anchor]

wtf snoopa rude

[waxen panther]

WTF

bullying my eternity ?

[unkempt drift]

@waxen panther do a jest

[warm anchor]

[unkempt drift]

Mr. Stoopa 🙂

[waxen panther]

i uhhhhhh

#general message

[unkempt drift]

JEST

[vestal jasper]

BROCC

[untold copper]

wat

no

[unkempt drift]

Mr. Snoopa Loompa

[untold copper]

oh

[vestal jasper]

gimme welyn alternative that isn't bloo or frost

[untold copper]

thats a good name

epic

[vestal jasper]

@waxen panther !!!

[waxen panther]

stevious has long vids

p good

[vestal jasper]

bet

[vapid sapphire]

hi, how do i report a chunk-wiping bug that can be easily exploited

[waxen panther]

kinda annoying voice but they're good

[unkempt drift]

Depends on the bug I guess.

[warm anchor]

lastest version?

[waxen panther]

i think the mods can put you in a private bug report channel

[untold copper]

github page of papermc i think

[vapid sapphire]

It literally forces affected chunks to regenerate

and can be very easily exploited

[waxen panther]

best to not mention it in general :p

[unkempt drift]

Yeah, there have been some that have done that before

You using latest paper?

[warm anchor]

and players in survival?

[vapid sapphire]

no but i can see if it affects the latest version

it only affects creative mode but it's still incredibly destructive

[vestal jasper]

ah yeah brocc 10 seconds of him talking and all I can think of is burger king foot lettuce

[waxen panther]

Yea

[vestal jasper]

ok not that bad hearing him more

[waxen panther]

it's worth it if you can get past that

[unkempt drift]

Well, part of the problem is creative mode there. Very hard to “moderate” creative mode items

[vestal jasper]

he sounds like me when I'm trying to sound "expressive" lmao

dramatic book reading rust edition

[warm anchor]

with hacked client you can make dozen of different items to crash server

[vestal jasper]

[warm anchor]

in creative mode

[vapid sapphire]

this doesn't crash a server

[pulsar wigeon]

dont even need hacked client

[vapid sapphire]

this nukes chunks back to when they were first generated

[pulsar wigeon]

creative mode is basically a hack by itself

[waxen panther]

its not as bad when he's in game instead of narration, welyn does the same he just has a cooler voice :p

[warm anchor]

so the bug isnt too bad then, if you can recreate on the latest paper version com back

[vapid sapphire]

about to do so

[vestal jasper]

ye it's def tolerable

[mental meadow]

@vapid sapphire #report-a-dupe

[waxen panther]

[warm anchor]

aurora epic?

[vapid sapphire]

yep, affects latest version

[viral hornet]

yes

[vagrant marlin]

[mental meadow]

:o

[potent fossil]

aurora epicest

[waxen panther]

@unkempt drift hello machine ?

[lost crypt]

i am starting a paper server useing aws what is the command to run the paper server file

[waxen panther]

it wont work well

but its java -jar paper.jar

youll want some memory arguments too but all this is on a guide somewhere

[autumn glen]

So this happened on a fine day to my server i have no clue how it ran with 0.5 tps

[unreal pike]

172.200.0.1 is this a default ip of some sort?

servers assigned to this IP on my dedi dont work

[golden gust]

that's a private IP

[unreal pike]

thanks

[untold copper]

aaa

today's workout is done

can't feel my legs

[merry talon]

that's uhh

suboptimal

[untold copper]

agreed

that is suboptimal

[cosmic raft]

no it isn't

172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255

172.200 is a public range

[void void]

is there like a #bot-spam channel here or something

[waxen panther]

no

[vestal jasper]

generally just don't spam the bot

[void void]

:/

[vestal jasper]

most if not all commands are kinda contextual

[golden gust]

oh, i misread the whois...

Oath Holdings aka Verizon Communications

[runic drum]

I would think it is an x-ray usage half a year ago

[golden gust]

gotta get the fart smell out somehow

[runic drum]

I am at loss how to patch this with a plugin, should I obfuscate all clay under water or should I just remove diamonds

[warm anchor]

Remove diamond and sell them in admin shop

[runic drum]

I hate admin shops

[warm anchor]

1.17 is coming anyway. Just reset your world

[unkempt drift]

Is the whole clay/diamond thing gone in 1.17?

[warm anchor]

What kinda server you running that you care so much about player mining diamond

[runic drum]

my villagers sell enchantmets books for diamonds

[warm anchor]

That’s your first mistake

Use quartz if you don’t have an economy currency

[runic drum]

it was not until discovery

I guess I will just make a random chance for diamonds to disappear when they are located under the lake and someone mines to them

just to level off the apparent advantage

[warm anchor]

Nvm it’s 1.18. Kept forgetting

[unreal pike]

anyone know why the host in my bungeecord config.yml keeps resetting to 0.0.0.0

[golden gust]

some hosts do that, especially for stuff like ptero, etc

[unreal pike]

paper is no different from spigot when setting up bungeecord right

[golden gust]

correct

[unreal pike]

would i run into issues if my bungeecord ip was 25565 and lobby is 25566 on same ip

i followed every step but it tells me it cant connect to default or fallback

i see on two posts mentioning this

The solution was to change the Host addresses of all the servers to your own xxx.xxx.xxx ip address! This is for all the future people who might have same problem with later builds. Do not take this down, people can see this fix!
if they mean the host option in bungeecord option, that one reverts to default so i cant change it. do they mean something else?

[golden gust]

are you using ptero? a hosting provider?

[unreal pike]

im on someones hetzner dedi

yes on ptero

[golden gust]

ptero rewrites the host file, and you can't use your own servers IP address in there as the proxy is in its own network (which is forwarded)

[unreal pike]

do i need another IP for the proxy?

[golden gust]

no

you put the public IP in ptero and bind the server to that

[unreal pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850141061224857612/850611938396209162/unknown.png

the second one is lobby

[golden gust]

what exactly are you tryna solve?

[unreal pike]

could not connect to default or fallback server

[golden gust]

also, generally you don't bind the backend servers to the public interface but on the ptero interface

also, those allocations are not in use, so, you probs wanna go and make sure that your servers are actually binded to something

[unreal pike]

oh they are

its an older screenshot

[golden gust]

the ips of the containers themselves do change when you do certain things, so, you do not wanna use that

[unreal pike]

ill look through it again

[potent fossil]

im such an idiot lmao, i pulled some dumb shit out of the xenforo database for a thing on the spigot api and it was in this disgusting format that i had no idea, so i used regex to extract the data, cleaned it up, and forced it into a normal array and fixed the values. that was my solution.

md_5 reviews: "did u mean to use unserialize()"

why the fuck does php serialize shit so stupidly

like for real
a:9:{i:18;s:2:"18";i:19;s:2:"19";i:110;s:3:"110";i:111;s:3:"111";i:112;s:3:"112";i:113;s:3:"113";i:114;s:3:"114";i:115;s:3:"115";i:116;s:3:"116";}

[golden gust]

php

[potent fossil]

i had no choice 😭

[golden gust]

and you wonder why the stupidity

it's in the name, duh

[potent fossil]

[left swift]

Php is like spam

Everyone has to deal with it but no one wants it

[novel horizon]

Some people want it

[vernal moth]

To be fair simple, I do no php at all and I can see that that is phps dum serialization format

[potent fossil]

i have been ruined

[round grove]

Does the client pull random images from the ram when a server had an icon but no longer has one?

[twin lagoon]

not really

[quasi valley]

it uses the last one

[round grove]

huh, the old server image didint have a cape nor images of the sun or the moon

also my test server with no icon had random white spots slowly rendering on the icon

also its now rendering the real icon of the server on top of the moon????? is my minecraft messed up??

[twin lagoon]

well you run mods

so try without mods

[quasi valley]

[round grove]

prob the mods, using "Fabulously Optimized-1.9.1" modpack

there were no issues yesterday and i haven't changed anything except start up a dev server with no icon then one with one

also, using Java 16 AdoptOpenJDK Hotspot VM

Update: Using no mods, same effect. Moon pattern showing up on icon like what

[twin lagoon]

use a normal minecraft instanfce without mods

without resource packs

[round grove]

without packs without anything

[golden gust]

That screen is known to be buggy as all shit in general

[tacit charm]

i want a command item plugin, for example, someone has a compass in his inventory, and if he right clicks this item while holding it, he executes a command.

[twin lagoon]

ok

[round grove]

diy, or use one of the thousands available

better to diy simple plugins

[olive garden]

wake up with a hangover, go to a shop, open a stupid PR

I do anything just to not have to study calculus

[round grove]

ok

[potent fossil]

lul

[woven otter]

what do you have to study exactly

[quick geyser]

is there an easier way to transfer to paper from spigot without javadocs?

and can you run paper plugins on a spigot server?

[round grove]

paper plugins on spigot may run but its not guaranteed

[quick geyser]

k ty

[round grove]

what

what do you mean by "without javadocs"

[quick geyser]

I know spigot and want to transfer to paper, how can you do this without going through the paper javadocs aimlessly?

[minor badge]

you just use the paper api instead of spigot api

[golden gust]

the API is primarily the same, no changes needed bar your pom

[round grove]

you don't need to go through the javadocs

[minor badge]

you just use the methods available once that's doen

[golden gust]

If you wanna see additions you will likely need the javadocs however

[olive garden]

Well good question, I would focus on those specifics if I knew what I needed to focus on :D
In general: limits, functions, infinite series, power series and everything related to these

[round grove]

you can run spigot plugins on paper nothing will change there will only be more api and not less

[quick geyser]

Yeah but since stuff is obviously different from spigot, where can you Learn about the changes?

[round grove]

oh about the changes

[golden gust]

Well, it primarily works the same as bukkit

[ancient bolt]

paper doesn't break API, except in very rare cases

paper adds new APIs

[golden gust]

if you wanna see the additional API, like practically any projects skimming the javadocs is gonna be best unless you wanna run over our patches instead

[minor badge]

now we just need mini and the stinky musketeers are all gathered :>

[quick geyser]

Yep k tysm!

[minor badge]

mini had some thing to see exact differences in paper & spigot api

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge

[quick geyser]

Also I presume when making a new plug-in i need to add a different jar than spigot-1.16

[minor badge]

.api -- think this was it

[limber knot]

https://minidigger.github.io/paper-api-diff/changes.html

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon

[golden gust]

ideally use maven/gradle

[quick geyser]

lol this is gonna take a while to learn

[golden gust]

we don't publish "real" jars, you'd need to run paper and grab the patched jar from the cache folder (paper is actually a bootstrap patcher rather than the actual server), and, depending on jars directly is like, vintage

[woven otter]

do you have to know how to solve them or do you need to learn theory and proofs or smth too?

[golden gust]

if using IJ, there is a plugin to easily create a gradle/maven project for paper

[round grove]

Minecraft Development is the name

I use it all the time

[quick geyser]

my god

wow okay

[olive garden]

This is gonna be a theoretical exam, so it's mostly theory and not much practice. I already know how to solve stuff, we had exams for that. If I don't learn the proofs I can't get the best grades, but that's fine by me. So I just need to grasp the basic concept of these stuff, sounds pretty easy tbh and hopefully it is.

Example question: do all continuous f: (a,b) -> R functions (a<b) have a maximum and minimum?
Possible answers:

• yes, because of the Bolzano–Darboux thesis
• yes, because of the Weierstrass thesis
• only if lim {a+0} f and lim {b-0} f are finite
• no
  This is one of the harder questions, but it demonstrates what we need to do well

[round grove]

ugly tho

[golden gust]

minidigger.

I mean, says it all really

[quasi valley]

he's the guy (one of them) working on Hangar frontend, so be warned

[golden gust]

We know 😦

[quasi valley]

it'd look like this if I would have helped there as well https://i.imgur.com/l1CXHxR.png

[steep crescent]

It's weird tho when I log into the server the mob farm works once and then stops

[vernal moth]

Mfw I get shit talked in my absence

Msh

Smh*

I didn't even write any code for that api diff

[potent fossil]

Just stumbled on this again lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KABSYzPqTTg

so where u from? 🎵

Hell

hehe me too~

[wide warren]

where i can get paper 1.12.2

[twin lagoon]

.downloads

[limber knot]

https://papermc.io/downloads

[twin lagoon]

legacy page

[wide warren]

thx

[potent fossil]

.legacy (just testing 2 see if this is a thing or not)

k

@twin lagoon ok what the fuck

so we have service and now ingress

but ingress requires that you select one of your nodes as entrypoint or get an external serbur. both of those sound like single points of failure no? or, if on a cloud provider, will that just provision a load balancer like an external service would

[twin lagoon]

make your ingress highly available by simply scaling up your ingress' controller/webserver

[potent fossil]

and this is outside of the cluster, right?

[twin lagoon]

e.g. if you use ingress-nginx, users will access nginx, so scale nginx

no this is inside of the cluster

[potent fossil]

so how does the entrypoint get an ip, does it use its own ingress or do we use an external service for that

[twin lagoon]

if you create an ingress, you need to expose the ingress by creating a service for the ingress

service (external loadbalancer) -> ingress -> service (clusterip) -> internal application

[potent fossil]

amazing

i want ingress-traefik though 😎

[twin lagoon]

it's the same story for traefik

just scale traefik up

[potent fossil]

damn alright what the fuck this is so many layers i feel like im in shrek for gods sake

but thanks dad

[swift root]

uwu

[potent fossil]

hi Larry 🥺

ok holy god k8s is sexy

but oh so thiccccc

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

[potent fossil]

what

[twin lagoon]

uwu

[ashen cliff]

KVM bro.

[twin lagoon]

Bro.

kube-virt

https://kubevirt.io/

[potent fossil]

uuuuhhhhh whatever comes default with k8s? 😎

[ashen cliff]

No bro.

[potent fossil]

But why bro

[ashen cliff]

Why not bro?

[potent fossil]

[ashen cliff]

Daily reminder to integrate and connect as many micro services as possible. So when 1 dies, everything goes down and you can't recover.

[wispy blade]

thx for the tip krusic glad you cleared that up

[vernal moth]

Just cache

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/under-exploit-vmware-vulnerability-with-severity-rating-of-9-8-out-of-10/

[worn ember]

Just hangar wen

[potent fossil]

lul

[vernal moth]

Lmfao pre auth RCE in vCenter

[potent fossil]

geegee

[vernal moth]

Cisco moment

[ashen cliff]

Are people still using VMware?

[worn ember]

Yes

[cosmic raft]

Are people still using VMware?

lmao

yes

extremely popular

[wispy blade]

virtualbox 😩💦

[vernal moth]

We got 5k+ VMs on vCenter/esxi

[potent fossil]

wsl2 is hyperv right

[vernal moth]

Ye

[twin lagoon]

still amazed by the fact that turning on hyper-v makes your windows installation a vm

[potent fossil]

same smh

[ashen cliff]

Security brother.

[twin lagoon]

Bro.

I do not care about security.

[ashen cliff]

Use XP then.

[twin lagoon]

Ok

[ashen cliff]

User ID 0 bro!

[twin lagoon]

I use Administrator user

[ashen cliff]

Weak.

System or 🚪.

[quasi valley]

mfw GH reported security invulnerability in Snakeyaml

[ashen cliff]

Very good.

[wispy blade]

tf is snakeyaml

[ashen cliff]

Yaml, but for snakes.

[wispy blade]

why do snakes need yaml

why does anyone need yaml

[olive garden]

security invulnerability? 👀

[ashen cliff]

Because snakes like humans, can't read JSON very well.

[quasi valley]

eh, english hard

[twin lagoon]

@meager tusk

[ashen cliff]

Bro!

[twin lagoon]

BRO!

[ashen cliff]

I hope you checked #memes for a based Balkan meme.

[quasi valley]

the attack is also great, it's called the "billion laughs attack"

[worn ember]

Cool

I need a laugh

[vernal moth]

Man, I really wanna use public transport more

But it takes 37 min when car takes 13

[ashen cliff]

Just use a bike.

Bikes are epic.

[vernal moth]

I wanted to but weather is meh

Bike is 28 min

[olive garden]

yeah I also like to arrive at work sweating like hell

[vernal moth]

I drive to work on bike every day

[olive garden]

tbh I think we have showers

[vernal moth]

When office was actually open....

[ashen cliff]

Bro. Just don't rush bro.

[vernal moth]

But yeah we have showers too and even a gym and stuff

[olive garden]

no joke, I actually don't know how to do that

[vernal moth]

But it's just 5 min 😂

Really close

[ashen cliff]

Just measure your max heartbeat, then try to keep at lest -20 below that.

[vernal moth]

My max is 180 and when I cycle at 150 am still sweaty as hell, lmao

[olive garden]

I don't have all that fancy high tech stuff that would allow me to measure stuff like that

[golden gust]

trig lifts a pinky and he's done for the day

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, that also depends. I can cycle in a hoodie in the summer and not sweat.

[olive garden]

bruh, sweating doesn't mean that I'm dying

[vernal moth]

That was my last cycle

[olive garden]

is that elevation in the data?

yes

reading is hard

[vernal moth]

Blue is altitude ye

That explains the peak of heart rate ^^

[olive garden]

why do you measure this btw? like data is cool, but do you actually make any decisions based on this data?

[ashen cliff]

To flex.

[vernal moth]

Cause I paid 150 euro for this watch so I better use it!

[golden gust]

I mean, I like data

[vernal moth]

And yes, I actually use it too see if I should put more energy in or not when am still riding

[golden gust]

like, the tracking is like, swipe and hit a button or two on most devices, so going out of your way to track stuff is minimal

[vernal moth]

Watch does it even automatically

[golden gust]

it tracks stuff like walking and your heart rate already

[vernal moth]

It's just fun data really

Like, it told me that I wasn't really going at my limit, more a chill one, so I know that I could easily go a bit harder

[ashen cliff]

Further beyond.

[vernal moth]

Where as here it told me to chill the fuck out before doing it again

[olive garden]

interesting

[vernal moth]

See how I half the time in the anaerobic zone

Thats where you kinda wanna be

[olive garden]

also, who the hell names a city "knapsack"

lmao

[vernal moth]

It's a part of Hürth, it's where the natural gas plant and some chem park is ^^

They also did coal processing there

Like, nobody lives actually there, it's I think the only city in germany that got relocated because of the environment, too toxic

Yeah, 1970, 4000 ppl moved out

[olive garden]

wow

in soviet-era hungary we just pretended everything is fine

[vernal moth]

Dw

We also relocate whole cities

To mine coal

In 2021

Germany is so progressive

[olive garden]

lol

[worn ember]

Nice

Give me some coal or I'll invade

[vernal moth]

Look at this shit

All those villages got moved

And destroyed

And there are like 10 more planned

The yellow ones

We even relocate the Autobahn and shit

You can see the fucking holes form space btw

Look left of my city

Those are the 3 holes

[worn ember]

[potent fossil]

i saw some video about that, i think tom scott, about how germany fucked their landscape so badly that they now have pumps that need to operate uh..for the rest of time eternal...to prevent some populated valley from turning into a mass death bog

comments, mini?

👀

[vernal moth]

Like, you can actually see it from the ISS

That's another area of my state simple

Here we do surface mines, but in "the pod" we did underground mines for goal

[ashen cliff]

Very good.

Time to close more nuclear plants and build more COAL.

[worn ember]

coal ❤️

[vernal moth]

Like, some areas there moved down 20 meters

Twenty meters

Cause we moved 130 million tons of coal out of the surface of the earth

Like, we need to make sure that rivers don't run the wrong way and flood whole landscapes

That's why we have the pumps

It's costing use like 250 million a year

Like, am not even mad for the older generations, they didn't knew better and also didn't really had alternatives

But there is no fucking excuse to continue to expand surface mines in 2021

Like, what the actual fuck, we talking about leaving coal for good and are still expanding our surface mines

[potent fossil]

mini anger

[vernal moth]

When I drove to uni I had to go around this big fucking hole with the giant ugly hill every time, twice

That does something to you

[meager tusk]

BRO!

[twin lagoon]

BRO!

[vernal moth]

As a kid I loved seeing those giant ass diggers, like, 100 meters high, 200+ meters long, 6600L big volume of just one shovel, 13000 tons of mass, 16mw motor power, those things are the biggest land vehicles on earth

Now imagine if we could use the engineering effort it took to create monsters like that, and used it for good

[worn ember]

no one cares about "good" only money 🙂

[solid sapphire]

wow never knew kashike had a mouth lol

[potent fossil]

why u lookin at kashikes mouth

weirdo

[solid sapphire]

no like

saw their github

and realised

they have a mouth

its just really thin

like my font which i cant border around as its 2px wide

[untold copper]

wdym "as a kid"

[potent fossil]

some of us are adults snoopa

[worn ember]

snoopa age

[limber knot]

ONLY SOME?

sorry, had caps lock on