wsl is pain
#general
nova plume
vernal moth
Am sunburned, am hella attractive right now
ashen cliff
Average Slavic Babuška!
waxen panther
kori supremacy
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@vernal moth hot ?
meager tusk
Yes that's what I also said earlier
worn ember
2 days of sun:
Mini: manages to get a sunburn
vernal moth
Yesterday 20 km, today 35km
wispy blade
i'd manage to get sunburn in 2 hrs of sun
meager tusk
Average Slavic Babuška!
I honestly think all Babuška look the same, no matter the ethnicity
twin lagoon
BRO!
ashen cliff
Fact bro.
meager tusk
BRO!
ashen cliff
They all got RPGs stashed.
vernal moth
I also like how the tweet has 400 likes and 4000 quote retweets
Like, nice ratio bro
meager tusk
I also like how the tweet has 400 likes and 4000 quote retweets
Great success!
vernal moth
Half the replies are "have you ever met s Woman outside of a video game"
magic river
I think they call that being ratio'd
meager tusk
Ok
worn ember
stock photo panda
ashen cliff
Half the replies are "have you ever met s Woman outside of a video game"
Looks like they never seen a girl without 50kg of makeup. /s
magic river
Ah, no, that's when you have more replies than likes
meager tusk
Ok? being ugly isn't bad.
waxen panther
idriz is hot
meager tusk
Thanks bro.
vernal moth
Yeah, normal humans measure body fat ratio, those women measure body makeup Ratio
wispy blade
perks of being ugly: you're left alone
worn ember
perks of having your own mansion: space
wispy blade
cons of being ugly: you're left alone
vernal moth
Normal ppl have layers of cloths in the cloud, those woman have layers of makeup to keep them warm
worn ember
meager tusk
Babuška have RPGs to keep them warm.
vernal moth
You ever just wear 3 shirts and at least 1 hoodie?
No I live in society
Not at the end of the world
wide chasm
Okay, but wtf is a beta male?
meager tusk
Pre-release males
worn ember
its after the alpha release
vernal moth
The opposite to alpha males I guess
waxen panther
people that dont work out 18 hours a day and date a new girl every hour
magic river
Alpha wolves aren't a thing, just saying
worn ember
no one said anything about wolves?
worn ember
its not from wolves lol its from pack animals
magic river
The human analogue would be if people were in a prison or concentration camp
vernal moth
I would have thought that in 2021 ppl would finally understand that the dum alpha thing just makes you look like an asshole and nobody actually wanna spend time with you for more than a quick fuck
worn ember
wolves have a couple that leads the pack
ashen cliff
Not at the end of the world
Bro. 1 layer to protect from sweat, 1 layer to protect from heat, 1 layer to protect from the cold and the last one to protect from the sun radiation in Balkan.
magic river
wolves have a couple that leads the pack
Yeah they're called the parents
vernal moth
Bro. 1 layer to protect from sweat, 1 layer to protect from heat, 1 layer to pro...
I heard Chernobyl is leaking again ^^
worn ember
what
ashen cliff
It always was.
vernal moth
At an increased rate
wide chasm
Guess we won't have any gamma males then
ashen cliff
That's why I'm always ready.
worn ember
wolves have hierarchy, and a pack of wolves is not just a family of wolves lmao where the hell you getting this info from
meager tusk
Why are you talking about wolves
Alpha for a person has long been used before wolves
magic river
I'm getting this info from the guy who put out the original study saying alphas were a thing
Where he admitted he was wrong
ashen cliff
Why are you talking about wolves
Due to Dark being a closet fu**y.
meager tusk
Alpha has just in general been used for leaders
meager tusk
Due to Dark being a closet fu**y.
He's doing terribly at being closeted
worn ember
i watched many nat geo documentaries so my words are pure facts
ashen cliff
True bro.
worn ember
He's doing terribly at being closeted
i actually put together a closet yesterday
ashen cliff
Good bro.
worn ember
are you proud of me?
ashen cliff
Did you assemble it correctly?
warm anchor
@worn ember hi ded how are you doing today??? 
magic river
ashen cliff
No squeaks allowed bro!
meager tusk
Well done DED.
worn ember
yes, it only took 5 hours
meager tusk
That's a pretty big claim that the word has become a phenomenon because of his book lol
worn ember
i hate it when my alpha game has to compete with other alpha games to be able to produce beta games
worn ember
i should publish a book
meager tusk
Don't
ashen cliff
Don't bro.
worn ember
The Art of Random Displacement Plugins
wispy blade
The Art of Random Displacement Plugins and Why Mine Is Not Finished Yet*
worn ember
cuz ur all playing on potato's probably
ashen cliff
Bro. Some random dude got like 2 million from ALIBABA and instantly deleted the money from the world.
Like INSTANT bro.
NEW BMW INSTANT.
meager tusk
Oh.
wispy blade
man
ashen cliff
No idea bro.
He legit, went to email a bunch of people to organize gaming events and then just vanished.
worn ember
ez money
ashen cliff
He probably got killed shorty after that.
meager tusk
He probably got killed shorty after that.
Blood feud over Fortnite.
Least Balkan blood feud.
worn ember
trail by combat
meager tusk
trail
meager tusk
Ok
ashen cliff
Bro.
magic river
Cool, I think installing docker blew away the WSL2 instance I just spent a day setting up
vernal moth
Mmh? I can use wsl2 and docker together, they have different WSL instances
twin lagoon
you can also just install docker in wsl2
worn ember
What i got from this channel using wsl2:
REEE WSL
WSL GREAT
Its broken again
magic river
Yeah, I didn't want to figure out how to get docker to start in my WSL2 setup so I figured I'd just install docker desktop and let it handle it
warm anchor
Wow wow get fucked ded!
magic river
The documentation suggested it'd be able to run it in my existing WSL2 instance
vestal jasper
I've been living under a rock why are GPU's like all 3x the MSRP
magic river
crypto
vestal jasper
mfw
magic river
Ah, a restart fixed it
vestal jasper
I'm just tryina get a buddy somethin affordable and it's all like $ 500+
worn ember
downscaled production, crypto, silicon shortage
twin lagoon
can we get rid of the balkan area
frank otter
can we get rid of shortages please
golden gust
pls
meager tusk
can we get rid of that underwater country
golden gust
Yes, and I want to be happy
meager tusk
netherlands should have never built dams
golden gust
But, we can't all have what we want
vernal moth
can we get rid of that underwater country
Don't you touch the German beach!
frank otter
I don't like it but you have a point
meager tusk
LOL
warm anchor
can we get rid of shortages please
Here’s hope crpyto drops another 80% of its value
It will help with shortage
ashen cliff
Yes. Just give it time.
frank otter
if crypto drops some random billionaire probably will tweet about it and poof
ashen cliff
It's always the same. 
vernal moth
The Netherlands is where we park our tanks, enjoy the beach, get some cabin and just drink and smoke all week
worn ember
someone hack the netherlands and open all their flood gates
warm anchor
Love it when people bitch about Elon pumping dogecoin and said he’s not helping
frank otter
The Netherlands is where we park our tanks, enjoy the beach, get some cabin and ...
that sounds like Saudi Arabia to Bahrain
vernal moth
Of course they can regulate it, lmao
meager tusk
Don't ask me how. I have connections.
warm anchor
Ok bro!
ashen cliff
Good connections bro.
meager tusk
Fact.
vernal moth
They can regulate it when you turn your fake money into real money
vernal moth
All exchanges are regulated
meager tusk
Fact.
warm anchor
Of course they can regulate it, lmao
Canadian banks already does this but not doing business with most of the coin exchange
magic river
They can block turning real money in to fake money and fake money in to real money, boom, market is gone
frank otter
moneys
warm anchor
Yeah
I bet not many people will want to meet up with someone inRL in exchange for crypto
Lol
twin lagoon
@warm anchor 
frank otter
isn't crypto used as like an anonymousish payment method
magic river
Yeah let me meet this dude at a random location so I can give him $10,000 in cash
warm anchor
Good afternoon @twin lagoon 
twin lagoon
warm anchor
Wdym
magic river
true canyon
meager tusk
Hey.
meager tusk
That sounds like a good idea.
worn ember
smh
true canyon
Felt relevant here.
ashen cliff
Good bro.
warm anchor
I love how @magic river just have the file ready all the time lol
vestal jasper
.amaranth
limber knotBOT
worn ember
reposting my repost
warm anchor
.halp
worn ember
.halp
limber knotBOT
warm anchor
Is the one
limber knotBOT
worn ember
lmao
vernal moth
The bot has only two commands worth using
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@true canyon 
vestal jasper
and amaranth
limber knotBOT
limber knotBOT
ashen cliff
Sad.
minor badge
it's just slow
vestal jasper
mfw this song is nostalgic
magic river
No, no nostalgia about songs named after me
vernal moth
It's what's you do with leafes
frank otter
also, who plays minecraft not in full screen
vernal moth
You burn them
frank otter
https://posili.me/i/2021-05-30_20-53-05.png
there is some mongo gui but it's for devs
ashen cliff
Bro.
worn ember
mongo is webscale
vernal moth
With mongo your data will be eventually consistent
ashen cliff
No one uses MongoDB unironically.
vernal moth
Maybe
worn ember
Pim did
frank otter
I use mongo because I can't be arsed to learn cassandra
also I'm small brain and it's complicated
ashen cliff
Or at least Maria.
worn ember
MSSQL 
frank otter
that's the first I've heard of Maria
vernal moth
Postgres is the only db worth using
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by onetesseract#9363 - Maria db - result 1 of 10
twin lagoon
pgpool i have no idea
vernal moth
Maria is a hard fork of MySQL
wispy blade
open source hard fork
magic river
You scale postgres by paying Microsoft or Amazon to do it for you 😄
warm anchor
https://posili.me/i/2021-05-30_20-53-05.png
Where is this posted
ashen cliff
AuthMe bro.
vernal moth
Very
warm anchor
Lmao
frank otter
does mongo scale across multiple shards well?
frank otter
I wanted tk learn cassandra because it's all it does
warm anchor
Can I join authme discord and tell them to turn on online mode?
twin lagoon
mongodb is very scalable
vernal moth
If you don't care about data consistency yes
ashen cliff
Bro. Tell them on Github bro.
twin lagoon
i am considering cockroachdb at this point
vernal moth
Is your DB actually your bottleneck Michael?
You wanna avoid hitting db anyways, caching is way faster than the fastest db
twin lagoon
my main problem is the max_connections and that serversidde connection pooling is ass
i have no idea what reasonable values i have to use for postgresql
vernal moth
Why do you have so many connections to one db?
ashen cliff
-1 bro.
worn ember
isnt the whole point of a db to "hit it" in an efficient way
ashen cliff
Depends.
Do you need always updated data? Do you only have to write data?
Do you actually need a DB?
vernal moth
You wanna always try to cache as much as possible on all layers
The client, the CDN, the service etc
worn ember
sounds like a massive pain in the ass
only reason i use cdn is to filter unwanted stuff
vernal moth
Imagine papers website without CloudFlare caching, lmao
unkempt drift
what's the goto for browing .mca files?
warm anchor
Mini they use it for server with a few dozen players I doubt they need all that lol
vernal moth
Nbt editor maybe?
unkempt drift
doesnt work, unrecognized NBT type 12
vernal moth
Guess it's not updated to the new list type
unkempt drift
oh the web one?
grand pewter
have you checked out https://github.com/Querz/mcaselector
worn ember
maybe if you're a large org like paper yeah, but i dont think it matters that much on mc servers cuz they're usually on the same machine anyway
vernal moth
I still don't wanna hit DB every time somebody runs /econ, lol
unkempt drift
well, I need to see if this new codec field I added is working properly. I imagine that stuff is in the .mca file for the region
worn ember
write your own nbt viewer and make it public
magic river
wispy blade
she's hot 😳
worn ember
omg left looks so fake! way to manly
warm anchor
Left BG is so white it looks like someone dropped a flashbang
vernal moth
TIL https://twitter.com/Salamatizm/status/1399053999291224066
Most video game main characters are actors nowadays
Cause mo cap and then the animators and designers just take that as reference
magic river
Her voice actor is someone else though, Ashly Burch
vernal moth
The chars in the game don't look like their voice actors tho, lol
wispy blade
yooooooo ms hoekstra player in Mees Kees, thought she looked familiar
formal turret
what's the goto for browing .mca files?
NBTExplorer?
olive garden
omg left looks so fake! way to manly
tbh Love, Death + Robots has more realistic looking characters than she is in that photo imo
worn ember
agreed
wispy blade
that's what last gen looks like PepeLaugh
unkempt drift
Thonk, that doesn't seem to work, unless ive got an outdated version. it says it doesnt recognize type 12 as valid NBT
waxen panther
mongo is webscale
formal turret
oh mb
unkempt drift
oh wait, no I dont have NBT explorer cause its windows only I think
I have NBT Editor
wispy blade
making apps windows only WeirdChamp
looks like you gotta compile from source then MM
or wine
worn ember
yeah you'll need a lot of wine to stay sane using linux 😉
wispy blade
.mini
unkempt drift
ok, well first lemme make sure I'm not totally looking in the wrong place, where would the end spike information be stored? its got its own Codec
so I imagine its somewhere in the world
formal turret
end spike? the dragon pillars?
unkempt drift
yeah, the obsidian pillars
formal turret
uhh if they existed in the MCA file they would be in the structures compound tag
unkempt drift
its got a codec with centerX, centerZ, radius, height, guarded
formal turret
but not all features end up in structures
I don't believe the pillars do because they're fairly self contained unlike mineshafts
unkempt drift
no, I dont think its in structures either
magic river
They're probably just entities in the chunks
unkempt drift
the pillars?
magic river
I thought that codec was just for the crystals
unkempt drift
I mean, it constructs WorldGenEnder.Spike
it has the hieght, radius, and location of those
magic river
Yeah I guess radius wouldn't make sense if it was just for the crystal, huh
unkempt drift
as well as if its guarded by iron bars
magic river
I have no idea why that would have a codec
unkempt drift
I see it being generated based on a seed
so it'd be the same each time, but it also seems to have a codec which confused me as well
formal turret
maybe they want to make it data driven later
surreal fulcrum
Hello hello !
I thought about a cool concept for Minecraft servers.
I don't have the skills to do it myself, so I put this idea here hoping someone could make it one day.
The idea sound simple :
separate the chunk generation from the Minecraft server into another server, dedicated only for this.
Today we can already do such a setup using 2 Minecraft server communicating via a plugin and sockets.
One server used to play on, the other to generate the chunks.
Everytime a chunk must be generated, the "play" server sends the coordinates, the map seed and type to
the other one, which will generate the chunk and sends it back.
Ideally, it should work differently : isolate the chunk generation code into a server that can only do that;
receive chunk generation requests and answer it.
I think it should allow to delegate this heavy task in order to make servers more stable.
Several people told me that the chunks needed the others adjacents chunks to be generated ...
But, how is it working when we exit the nether using a new portal in a non-generated area?
What do you think about this idea? (sorry for my English)
wispy blade
chunky exists
formal turret
oh, they might be data driven already lol
twin lagoon
Hello hello !
I thought about a cool concept for Minecraft servers.
I don't hav...
no one is interested in that though
magic river
The server already puts chunk generation on a different thread though
golden gust
chunk generation is determinate yet also behind random
twin lagoon
it's not that heavy of a task
ashen cliff
Was already done btw. Just dead.
golden gust
you're just gonna end up with shitty chunk borders
formal turret
twin lagoon
and most servers don't generate chunks with live players on, they'll pregen
unkempt drift
oh, so it can be overriden by custom data
magic river
And iirc it's a two-pass system, it does half the generation but can't finish it until the neighboring chunks are also at least half generated
unkempt drift
but isnt by default
golden gust
as said, it's also already done off the main thread, so increasing the context jumping is not gonna do you anything good
unkempt drift
ok, that makes a lot more sense
unkempt drift
yeah, I see that part of the code
formal turret
ah ok
unkempt drift
I knew they were created like that, but also knew they had a codec but it makes sense that theres a default generation, but that can be overriden by a custom file via the codec
warm anchor
Hello hello !
I thought about a cool concept for Minecraft servers.
I don't hav...
Did he just left
worn ember
the french and their weird idea's
wispy blade
ok belgian man
worn ember
deletes mmsg
wispy blade
nice doubletap 
wide chasm
Just like some languages use double << and >> marks to indicate speech. I've always found it odd to read, but that's probably because I'm not used to it.
warm anchor
Ded can you make an rtp that only tp players on top of lava?
wispy blade
hmmmm
worn ember
Ded can you make an rtp that only tp players on top of lava?
you can already do that using the blacklist
wispy blade
LOL
wide chasm
you can already do that using the blacklist
Configuration options for everything!
worn ember
exactly
wide chasm
It isn't truly customizable if your plugin can't emulate two completely different plugins by just toggling options.
warm anchor
exactly
I will offer my players with two options: paid rtp that would tp you to safe location and free rtp (that only Teleport you on top of lava)
worn ember
it even works with regex and tags
now i just gotta make it support custom world types to truely support everything
wispy blade
let's go eula breaking rtp
worn ember
I will offer my players with two options: **paid rtp** that would tp you to safe...
sounds like a plan
warm anchor
Ikr. How revolutionary
wispy blade
sounds epic
warm anchor
True. Rate it one to 100 and the more you paid the better location you get
olive garden
and allow different location validators for each score
in that case it's kind of hard to have different location validators
but not impossible, I'm sure drek can figure it out!
warm anchor
I just assume ded is sitting in his chair all day browsing discord
warm anchor
So he can spend his time working on this!
worn ember
I just assume ded is sitting in his chair all day browsing discord
not wrong tbh
worn ember
20.01$ and we have a deal
might be a cool idea to allow users to make their own validators, much work tho
warm anchor
Fuck that’s over my budget. Let me go back to discuss with my financial advisor and get back to you
Didn’t bluely’s rtp has those
warm anchor
His has other detailed stuff like “always near sheep” “always near lava” etc
worn ember
but they're not restricted to just world types
lmao
always near Eternity
teleports behind you
warm anchor
frank otter
this js probably the wrong place to ask but I'll give it a shot
does anyone know any commonly overlooked ways to improve game performance on underspecced hardware
wispy blade
unload things that don't need to be directly rendered
peak dirge
don't use a bloated OS like Windows
peak dirge
then because of DRM it has heavy performance overheads to begin with
worn ember
most overlooked one is upgrading hardware
frank otter
WHY THE FUCK IS MS EDGE INSTALLER RUNNING
peak dirge
Google "apex legends improve fps" and pray
frank otter
I just killed it
magic river
There usually isn't anything you can do beyond turn everything else off and turn in game settings to their lowest options
magic river
Sometimes people will make "potato PC" mods but anti-cheat would probably yeet you for having those if they even did exist
frank otter
most overlooked one is upgrading hardware
did you know of the great gpu shortage
worn ember
nothing i can do about that lol
magic river
bleh, my UEFI one time boot menu only lists actual programmed in entries instead of things like "UEFI USB" or whatever
golden gust
There are tools which can be used to like, slim down the OS a good chunk, but, that's really best done as a seperate OS which you're willing to nuke every few dozen months, so, keep your game installs elsewhere, etc
magic river
So I kept picking "ubuntu" thinking I was picking the USB stick but was actually picking a non-existent option from my SSD
golden gust
beyond that, you're generally sorta SOL
silent merlin
When do you think 1.17 will be available for paper? My guess is that 1.17 release on the 15th. How long time will paper need then? 15 days? So we can use 1.17 in july? Or does it usually need more time than that?
potent fossil
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
silent merlin
I am aware, I'm not asking for the ETA I am just asking the community what they think.
potent fossil
It will be as soon as possible, at the team's availability
magic river
I estimate it'll be a week after spigot releases
golden gust
We don't know
golden gust
theres many variables and the question is tiring
magic river
So go ask the spigot folks 😛
golden gust
For all we know, spigot refuses to release their stuff for a week or two again
potent fossil
changing the wording and "asking the community" doesn't make it not an eta request 
silent merlin
I understand, I am not really asking the developers, I'm just asking what others think. Its impossible to know I am aware. But I think most can agree that we're talking weeks regardless.
potent fossil
walks away
magic river
It could be 2 days, it could be 3 months
It could be never if 3 months is accurate as people decide to not bother or give up
potent fossil
the world could end tomorrow and 1.17 might never come out
silent merlin
I know it could be any time, I'm not asking for an eta, I'm just asking what people think in general.
potent fossil
my guy lmao
golden gust
You're asking for the community to guess an ETA
Nobody knows
The question is asked 200 times and is tiring, as nobody knows
ashen cliff
Joe knows.
magic river
You already got the closest thing you're going to get from me 😛
worn ember
Joe mama?
potent fossil
No, Joe Stevenson.
worn ember
dont like that guy
wispy blade
joo biden
magic river
Everyone else is just going to yell at you, I gave you my guess and what the range could be
worn ember
15 days 3 hours and 8 minutes
potent fossil
@magic river but what he doesnt know is that you trolling him is the same energy as us yelling
silent merlin
Yeah I did not mean to cause any discomfort, I was just curious what others think. I personally think we won't see Paper for 1.17 until July at earliest.
magic river
15 days 3 hours and 8 minutes
That is when the world will end?
vernal moth
Yeah I did not mean to cause any discomfort, I was just curious what others thin...
You think we lazy or smth? Smh
worn ember
maybe, maybe not
silent merlin
You think we lazy or smth? Smh
Not at all! But I think Mojang won't release until a week or two and then spigot takes a week or so. Then you guys need time.
potent fossil
Great, Mini is gonna drunkupdate all nighter paper 1.17 update live on twitch
vernal moth
Great, Mini is gonna drunkupdate all nighter paper 1.17 update live on twitch
You and me know I was gonna do that anyways
potent fossil
+shirtless
vernal moth
I already took time of work 😂
wispy blade
😳
potent fossil
take twitch subs to remove articles of clothing mid compilation
silent merlin
Btw the reason I was asking was because many communities out there don't know if its worth waiting for the update or not before resetting 👍
wispy blade
i wanna do coding streams but streaming diminishes my brain power lol
potent fossil
just do vrchat
vernal moth
You wouldn't wanna run paper 1.17 in prod day one
golden gust
most of the crazy breaky stuff was pushed into 1.18
vernal moth
No it wasn't cat
golden gust
Well, "breaky"
vernal moth
The code is still there
golden gust
Yea, but it does nothing generally afaik
god knows what all is there, but, the stuff which people where feeling would push them to reset was delayed afaik
potent fossil
vr streamer
VTuber, where your twitch camera is replaced with an animated character. I can imagine it takes some of the performance anxiety away
ashen cliff
Or you know: You.
potent fossil
😳
golden gust
I heard that simple has bigger tits than gura
potent fossil
.g forsen
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Sebastian Fors A Swedish streamer who is known for competing in Starcraft II and Hearthstone. (https://duckduckgo.com/Forsen?v=i&kp=1)
potent fossil
two games i have no idea about
wispy blade
just do vrchat <:PepeLa:798951090539987004>
monkaW
a) i sold my vr headset last year
b) i dont like vrchat
wispy blade
i know
terse sapphire
Hola, alguien que hable español?
terse sapphire
coño
potent fossil
worn ember
terse sapphire
Tienen algun server de ds con scripts/plugins?
terse sapphire
Okay, i know something of english but it basic
potent fossil
That's okay
worn ember
this is actually really annoying, it doesnt suggest anything until you type a number
brave radish
Simple do you actually know Spanish or just Google Translating?
potent fossil
i took 3 years in high school but i dont ever use it, so it's probably wrong
wraith oracle
I did actually recognize that you weren't using a translator, not completely at least
golden gust
plugins really werent designed for the modern command stuff and upstream has 0 interest in fixing it
wispy blade
YEP
potent fossil
i wasn't using a translator, but that wasnt anything complex. but i really dont know a lot, i can't remember any conjugations except really basic or anything
wispy blade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e69XZJ9DEj0 welp guess i have this
potent fossil
i also have that
wraith oracle
i wasn't using a translator, but that wasnt anything complex. but i really dont ...
eh, it's good enough imo
better than google translator if anything
potent fossil
google translate hardly gets anything
wide chasm
I understood it, but am probably worse at Spanish than you, so that doesn't say much
potent fossil
well, woot for 3 years of spanish resulting in a very meager command of the language with the ability to kinda but not really talk to ppl with it
\o/
true canyon
this is actually really annoying, it doesnt suggest anything until you type a nu...
Please let me know when you find a solution <3
wispy blade
school system moment :)
worn ember
Please let me know when you find a solution <3
well its a vanilla command, i'm not touching that hah
waxen panther
brig bug
golden gust
oh, vanilla commands, yea, is dum
I think pressing tab might do something but it's generally eer
wide chasm
I feel the main problem with learning languages in high school is that you don't have enough tome to understand the language at a higher level
wide chasm
And after you're done most people won't maintain it
worn ember
doesnt look like it :p
am i the only that expected Worldborder#getSize to give me back the radius rather than its width? I keep making that mistake lol
brave radish
I thought it did
uh-oh I made a PR on that runs and checks code
oh no I divided by two it's fine 😆
worn ember
if you set the worldborder to 500 it goes to 250x and 250z lul so total width of 500
vestal jasper
i also have that
same
worn ember
the whole worldborder stuff is weird
worn ember
I thought it did
yeah its the actual width of the wb
potent fossil
yeah that's a great move
brave radish
and I'd feel bad using Java 16 in a plugin if using 11/8 could let someone run it on an older version but it doesn't run on those anyway so yay
potent fossil
i hope forceful java upgrades happen every lts now
wispy blade
i did, good job past me
brave radish
I only got around to installing 11 like the day before Mojang's announcement 😆
brave radish
before I had just suffered through making things work on 16/15/whatever the latest was at the time
unkempt drift
inb4 server still runs on 8 on release, only client moved to 16
brave radish
😫
potent fossil
brave radish
I will start a revolt against Mojang
unkempt drift
mojang comes out and says, lots of servers still using 8 so we dont wanna upgrade that
brave radish
We will flood realms with chickens and make their servers crash
brave radish
mojang comes out and says, lots of servers still using 8 so we dont wanna upgrad...
I don't think they even have that data?
unkempt drift
eh, who knows. could just look at bukkit stats
teal cedar
mojang comes out and says, lots of servers still using 8 so we dont wanna upgrad...
that would be very stupid
doubtful even mojang would do that
brave radish
yeah lol
worn ember
mojang comes out and says, lots of servers still using 8 so we dont wanna upgrad...
would mean their integrated server would have to run on j8
brave radish
I don't think they are atm anyway
worn ember
@warm anchor it works 
wispy blade
LETS GO
wraith oracle
is that yet another random teleport plugin
woven otter
So unfortunate for you to accidentally step in lava after teleporting
worn ember
its the one and only rtp plugin
worn ember
So unfortunate for you to accidentally step in lava after teleporting
non lava rtp's are for donators only
wispy blade
yee
wraith oracle
I am so done after playing that 4d chess at paper-dev
I am pretty confident when it comes to my problem-solving abilities, but I just feel like the whole conversation went in circles this whole time lol
potent fossil
the what
haughty bear
am not responsible for any loss of braincells
blissful thicket
I wonder if anyone has done async chunk loading and async teleport for paper?
brave radish
you mean the API functions?
brave radish
I'm still not really sure what you're asking, but 1.8 was before I knew what Bukkit was so I'm not of any help 🙃
blissful thicket
someone must have done it.
no async chunk loading and async teleport in paper 1.8
woven otter
Im sure people would do it if you paid them
blissful thicket
ahh -_-
brave radish
you can see if NachoSpigot has it but they're like severely unsupported here and it might not even work
worn ember
soon 1.8 will die 👏
vestal jasper
People like to be paid for their time and effort.
worn ember
maybe
vestal jasper
This is a constant in the universe.
You request a service, you offer something in return.
woven otter
soon 1.8 will die 👏
Impossible
worn ember
you get paid with exposure
vestal jasper
I pay you with bug reports when I find issues
worn ember
its still trying to breathe
vernal moth
allow github sponsor
I do and I even have a few sponsors, so yes I am getting paid to work on MiniMessage ^^
worn ember
get the pillow while you can
vernal moth
Well, actually, they just cover the cost of my beer
vestal jasper
But on a serious note there the difference is that you're offering a service, rather than someone requesting it
worn ember
you could be making the world a better place with eco crypto, instead you decide to waste your time on minecraft smh smh
wispy blade
I do and I even have a few sponsors, so yes I am getting paid to work on MiniMes...
oh cool
vestal jasper
I'm about to be in the market for GPUs I couldn't care less about crypto rn
worn ember
rip wallet
woven otter
i'll be able to crank another 2-3 years out of this one i think
What is it
blissful thicket
Which fork would you recommend for 1,8,8?
woven otter
you mean my card
Yes
woven otter
Which fork would you recommend for 1,8,8?
Latest paper
vestal jasper
I'd suggest running paper 1.16.5
blissful thicket
Latest paper
1,8,8 paper not async chunk loading
woven otter
I'd suggest running paper 1.16.5
I was first go away
vestal jasper
Which is why you update to a modern version of the game
worn ember
then update lmfao
woven otter
4096MB ATI Radeon RX 470 Graphics (MSI)
Not bad.
Wait someone was selling a gpu
@minor badge how much
worn ember
but sir my 8year old gpu doesnt have RTX plz someone make a patch
vestal jasper
The more modern the version the more features you get, and if you're on the latest supported version, you receive support.
Otherwise the quality of support you get and the amount of people willing to support you greatly diminishes.
@blissful thicket
vestal jasper
If you run 7 year old versions of the game not many people will be willing to help you.
Official paper stance and unofficial community stance to not care about 1.8.8 issues.
woven otter
Latest versions suck because client is lagging like hell 
wispy blade
just maintain your own private 1.8.8 fork lol
vestal jasper
Doesn't 1.17 come with renderer changes?
I've heard people have had much better performance on it than 1.16.5
vestal jasper
But yeah no we don't keep track of random 1.8.8 forks pretty well, if you really want this specific feature you'll have to find someone to do it for you (often at a price), or learn to do it yourself and support yourself.
wispy blade
so, if mojang keeps up that trend, minecraft should be able to run at 60 fps on my school laptop with a whopping 4 chunks of render distance
vernal moth
Why waste time talking about 1.8?
wispy blade
^
blissful thicket
hypixel 1,8
wispy blade
hypixel has their own private forks pretty sure
blissful thicket
I am coding async chunk loading and async teleport method
vernal moth
You aren't hypixel
Hypixel is a multi million dollar company
You don't get to compare yourself to that
woven otter
There are no good 1.8.8 open source forks afaik only paid ones so yeah
brave radish
DuckSpigot wen
woven otter
And they are usually found on mcm. So yeah
woven otter
DuckSpigot wen
There is DuckPaper
vernal moth
Let's talk about smfh more fun
potent fossil
no mini, my 1.8 15 player pvp server is not only on par with hypixel but demands your reverence
vernal moth
I am not sure I get to work on hangar before 1.17 is stable :/
wispy blade
rip
potent fossil
im looking very much forward to watching you stream this
brave radish
mini streams updates?
potent fossil
yes
vernal moth
We all do
potent fossil
but mini's is wildest if you know wat i mean
vernal moth
Heck, was I even on paper team last time?
brave radish
lol
potent fossil
he's a wild wild german boi
vernal moth
I can't remember when I got invited
wispy blade
@ me when you do :)
topaz mortar
There is DuckPaper
Duck Tape
topaz mortar
I can't remember when I got invited
I would say 1.16 wad pre team, 1.16.4 was in team
magic river
wat
blissful thicket
Paper,taco,nacho,,,
unkempt drift
there's a nacho?
wispy blade
whichever one you want
magic river
Did spigot remove async chunk loading from 1.8?
I thought it got removed from like 1.13
unkempt drift
was it even added in vanilla in 1.8?
magic river
No
unkempt drift
can't remove it if its not added in vanilla I guess
magic river
Err
Except I wrote it for CraftBukkit for like 1.5
Spigot at some point removed it and Paper added it back in
unkempt drift
oh, I meant was it in vanilla in 1.8, not was it specifically added in 1.8
magic river
I didn't think they removed it from their first release though
unkempt drift
idk when this stuff was added, I certainly wasn't around
blissful thicket
magic river
I think Spigot removed it from whatever version vanilla added async chunk generation, was either 1.12 or 1.13 iirc
It should be in every version of 1.8 though (except vanilla)
Like, it's even in Forge
blissful thicket
magic river
Right so you're trying to get the API for it, not the functionality
blissful thicket
there is already
brave radish
but we don't support 1.8 so...
magic river
The server is already doing that for normal player movement, that API just lets plugins do it too
Sure, the end result of this conversation is going to be "good luck with that" I'm just confused as to what they're even after
They seem to be asking for something that already exists
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> it works <:kappa:658734316209176576>
Let’s go
warm anchor
is that yet another random teleport plugin
No no no. This one is better. It only tp you into lava
woven otter
Which fork should I code on?
does it matter? it will be a pain either way
woven otter
Right so you're trying to get the API for it, not the functionality
magic river
Yes
woven otter
support for 1.8.8 async rtp when
true canyon
1.8.8 goats when
brave radish
when you update to 1.17
brave radish
+
true canyon
oof
brave radish
Discord...
smh
anyone here ever used GraalJS from the plain JVM?
cuz my plugin keeps throwing an IllegalStateException with the message No language and polyglot implementation was found on the classpath. Make sure the truffle-api.jar is on the classpath.
build.gradle if anyone has ideas: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/c31930c319c7451893844e52b5aabd6b
wispy blade
alr gn ppl
brave radish
oh and the code:
wispy blade
brave radish
not really Paper?
I mean it is a Paper plugin but paper-dev is busy, this isn't, and it's not actually a Paper problem per-say
brave radish
what does that mean?
like even if I download the api jar on the server and put it in the classpath envvar it doesn't work
I thought the gradle config above would be sufficient anyway
short yarrow
For those that have written APIs for a website, specifically a website that requires login. Do you ever have to write your own session logic? Like generating a session id and doing checks everywhere to see if a user is authenticated
I'd like to use dropwizard, but I don't know if they have sessions built in
brave radish
I mean there's PHP's session array
golden gust
many libraries have their own auth mechanism
quick google suggests that they have a session manager
wraith oracle
I thought the gradle config above would be sufficient anyway
it is for applications
I think it may be a little more complex on an environment such as Paper
brave radish
yeah I read https://github.com/oracle/graaljs/issues/182 and then I decided I'd fix that tomorrow 😉
tired heath
For those that have written APIs for a website, specifically a website that requ...
Well, depends on what you are using. I did build secured APIs in PHP where I'd written my own session classes to compare a lot of stuff like user agent, ip, proxy ... to see if the user is on the same computer, but I actually never had the need to rewrite basic functions/methods what send the header and save the session itself.
No reason for that so far
Maybe would make sense if you wanna secure the server files or use special storage for sessions
merry talon
this new shaw all in one doesn't allow changing DNS servers
what the actual
that's insane
short yarrow
I was thinking of learning PHP and using laravel to try to build web apps
are there really good alternatives to bootstrap?
tired heath
I don't know, I used so many stuff in php, syntax is kinda like c but type free sucks because you get a lot of shitty code in libs.
Not a fan of it, just used it because is state of art for websites
PHP itself is not the annoying thing for me, but like so many frameworks in use also like cms, shop systems, most do some own stuff and you have to get into each one of them
...
brave radish
I wanna make a bot to merge every Paper PR that can be merged into my fork at once and see what happens
tacit fern
I wanna make a bot to merge every Paper PR that can be merged into my fork at on...
There's a very easy to make joke here but I won't go there :P
tacit fern
Welp, there we go
brave radish
oh wow Machine is actually in the Yatopia Discord
surprised; did you join just to change your nickname lol
brave radish
wouldn't it make much more sense to say "died of high age" than "died of old age?" I mean, an age that is old... would be an older age.... which would mean the person was young 🤔
r/showerthoughts
golden gust
watches as billy creaks past
unreal quarry
dusk drift
Been a while since I went on MCM so I went on for the first time in a few months, instantly noticed why I hate this website
brave radish
not even the adds make sense
limpid comet
isn't that a legit resource
brave radish
"Tricks to code Minecraft plugins 47% faster"
Like what? 47??
magic river
Isn't that resource just paper? 😛
cunning raft
It could just be notick view distance which is already in tuinity?
brave radish
thought that was Paper, no?
cunning raft
I don't know if paper had notick?
wraith trail
its in paper now
cunning raft
ah ok
brave radish
HexedHero what particular aspect of that site were you complaining about?
excuse me while I test the bot
.remind 1s @brave radish does this ping?
.remind 1m @brave radish does this ping?
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot: Reminder set for 60 seconds from now.
wraith trail
no, it's on irc
so just reminds DiscordBot
oh nevermind, if you ping in the remind message it might
dusk drift
How is that a legit resource?
Please note that the expandable render distance can be very large, up to 32.
I just ran a Paper server with 32 view distance
It does nothing
no?
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: @brave radish does this ping?
brave radish
it does ^^
brave radish
How is that a legit resource?
`Please note that the expandable render distance c...
well the client max is 32
so not much more the plugin can do there
it's just trying to make no tick view distance, I think
dusk drift
no, the plugin claims to add render distance up to 32
but without the plugin you can do 32 anyway
There isnt any need for it?
wraith trail
Multithreading
This allows players to view a larger distance of chunks independent of what is actually loaded.
Extended view distance chunks are not ticked.
Mostly asynchronous.
Please note that the expandable render distance can be very large, up to 32. At a certain point, The client won't be able to handle it unless are on very powerful computers.
Server stable tps 20, also possible.
Prevention XRAY (Limited to chunks sent by plugins).
this is what it claims
it makes little sense, but does not say it makes it any larger than what you can do
brave radish
yeah I think it's saying you can do normal view distance like 10 and not-ticked 32
dusk drift
FartherViewDistance
doesn't add farther view distance
brave radish
well it does in that normal servers wouldn't want to have real view distance of 32
so it lets you go farther than you could otherwise
wraith trail
and this beautiful image https://proxy.mc-market.org/eba69b3df4e3ae11e277fa495120fc062218ba0d?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeMRcSqW.jpg
dusk drift
well it does in that normal servers wouldn't want to have real view distance of ...
Paper.yml > no-tick-view-distance: 32
Works fine, no?
brave radish
but that's rather new
wraith trail
no lol
brave radish
Tuinity 😆
magic river
Why are these names so bad?
brave radish
no-tick-view-distance was added 5 May 2020, so relatively new
brave radish
Why are these names so bad?
is "Spigot" any better?
magic river
Yes, it's easy to remember and type
magic river
Sure, which is a total copy of the already existing spout but no one ever accused md_5 of being creative 😛
It was better than CB++ at least
dusk drift
CraftBukkitReloaded
brave radish
My question is why Purpur was named Purpur after the addition of Purpur to the game
dusk drift
but that's rather new
All its versions of MC that it supports already has no tick but I guess I forgot about Spigot users in 2021 
unreal quarry
i named it Purpur because it sounds like a drunk trying to say Paper
magic river
tuinity and yatopia look like someone was too lazy to remember to add "minecraft" to their search terms so tried to come up with a word that wasn't in google already
dusk drift
Tuwuity
brave radish
i named it Purpur because it sounds like a drunk trying to say Paper
is that actually true?
unreal quarry
yes
warm anchor
and this beautiful image https://proxy.mc-market.org/eba69b3df4e3ae11e277fa49512...
need more jepg!
unreal quarry
is that actually true?
brave radish
wow
brave radish
All its versions of MC that it supports already has no tick but I guess I forgot...
I wonder if it's actually just leaf's patch thrown in a plugin
should decompile it, but I don't even want anything from MC market on my computer
dusk drift
ye same
I honestly forgot about Spigot not having no tick
or anyone even still using it tbh
waxen panther
Spigot has nothing
dusk drift
I haven't used Spigot in like 6 years now
brave radish
I honestly forgot about Spigot not having no tick
same, except stop at the word "Spigot"
warm anchor
deep down MD is just waiting for paper to hardfork so he can stop maintaining spigot
brave radish
prob true really
dusk drift
Its been a long time, I'm surprised he hasn't just moved on
magic river
He gets a lot of money from it
brave radish
k I'm decompiling that plugin on a live Ubuntu system
dusk drift
Just redirect the download link to paper and just leave Spigot as a marketplace
but he never wanted a marketplace
waxen panther
Who would
dusk drift
I think Polymart is a pretty cool platform but I feel it wouldn't get popular unless Spigot shutdown before hanger came out
brave radish
for any wondering: it doesn't appear to be stolen from leaf
brave radish
real CB?
wispy blade
mhm
brave radish
well it was only 1.14 that BuildTools stopped building (or, rather, copying) the CB jar
unkempt drift
Can still add a flag to tho right?
wispy blade
holy shiy my forearm is still completely dead
played badminton for the first time in weeks on saturday and it's monday now
jeez
potent fossil
well stop playing badminton then ez
that'll be $5000 from the us medical system thanks
wispy blade
but i like playing badminton :(
unkempt drift
hehe, what’s that other name for the birdie in badminton?
wispy blade
candice
warm anchor
badminton the killer sport 
unkempt drift
Those things go like crazy fast off the racket(?)
Oh yeah, I got it. Shuttlecock. I knew it was fun
wispy blade
more like shuttlecuck cuz they always ping off the frame
warm anchor
mods I am being bullied by brocco with reaction 
wispy blade
for me at least
waxen panther
@lzk
unkempt drift
Broc is slacking off on the malware investigations. Paper had like 3 infiltrations today
wispy blade
dammit broc
warm anchor
brocco should you fork spigotav and make it paperav
wispy blade
do your job
waxen panther
broccolai is currently out of office
no i should fork yatopia anti virus
it is the best plugin ever made
wispy blade
yatopia deez nuts
unkempt drift
Wait, is there really a yatopia anti virus?
waxen panther
Yea lmao
wispy blade
lol
untold raft
Where do I ask for help (regarding hosting a server on paper)
warm anchor
isnt that just spigotav? Hes part of the yatopia team now
unkempt drift
Am dev and didn’t even know that
waxen panther
Yea i think it is spigot av
except it's part of yatopias org now
has a channel in their discord and everything
untold raft
Where do I ask for help (regarding hosting a server on paper)
nvm Im dumb
waxen panther
warm anchor
<a:peepoWewewooOoOosign:765690448848617482>
everytime I see that animation I think of Jroy now
waxen panther
this is the better version
left swift
<a:peepoWewewooOoOosign:765690448848617482>
wispy blade
friendly reminder to sit up straight
vernal moth
But am lying in bed
serene bolt
Spigot has nothing
are you trying to make me cry? :(
serene bolt
that was definitely not forced and completely of free will 🙂
vernal moth
There are more good ppl at spigot, not just pure
vernal moth
Just, it doesn't really matter when they are lead by md
hearty compass
what happen to bukkit page lol
dense holly
Yeah curseforge and the bukkit website seam to be down 🤔
mossy vessel
They're working on it
potent fossil
keep a defunct website up for years and years and years and nobody blinks an eye
let it go down for even 1 hr and everyone loses their minds
mossy vessel
Do people still use dbo? It's a mirror of cf anyway, just less... handy
twin lagoon
@mossy vessel 
untold copper
spigoot
mossy vessel
<@!254790994594234370> <:panda_flush:814541663677710347>
Michele 👀
merry talon
hangar when
wispy blade
.eta