although discord would be.. quite weird to have your own servers, it would also be good because you don't need to listen to robotic voice or not have anything when their service drops
#general
novel horizon
potent fossil
could just make it join any homeserver 
potent fossil
could be an open collective backend
novel horizon
sure it doesn't happen too often, but it is annoying
floral mesa
telling users to login is also not really straight forward. Most users really dont want to go the lengths of actually setting up an application beyond username, password, and maybe a theme.
novel horizon
sometimes not able to use discord at all, or voice chat and such
also video chat is so bad
potent fossil
"anyone who wants to contribute their backend to us, just sign this form with your homeserver federation details and confirm your ownership"
๐
novel horizon
screen share quality varies so much for some people
"oh ill just show you" "sure" "uh i just.. see pixels"
potent fossil
kek
i bought a cheap ass vps to run my homeserver off of and my video calling isn't even as bad as discord is half the time
i don't use it much, but it's there
novel horizon
as i said, i love it and hate it ๐
"well you know what just run anydesk ill look at it" is mostly the "solution"
potent fossil
teamviewer 
novel horizon
yeah you should run
i ditched tv because of the "ohohoh you are using it for commercial use!! let me disconnect you after a minute or two"
and it happened quite a lot of times, idk why, feels like anydesk is kinda better
if you really want something fast then can download it, run it and you can immediately connect
and also - not sure how TV works now - when you move your mouse on anydesk, the other side can't do anything, so it's easy "hey hey what u doing"
potent fossil
How do they detect commercial use lol
potent fossil
I mean I just have tv to help my family members with shit
novel horizon
that's why i stopped using it
potent fossil
Has been fine
novel horizon
with my friends and so i helped them quite a few times, but then this happened
if it happens once, whatever, but it got to the point that in 15 minutes it happened like 3-5 times
potent fossil
imagine paying a monthly fee for remote desktop
floral mesa
could be worse, you could be paying MS for remote desktop on windows server
potent fossil
tv is free for non-comm tho
floral mesa
per user mind you
potent fossil
and i only use it for that
novel horizon
yeah it is
yeah i see per 1 user, 1 session
yeah i used it for that too
i never used it for commercial
but it happened quite a few times, even after reinstall etc
potent fossil
i mean, i aint gonna pay for anydesk lol. i dont see any free version. so tv it is
floral mesa
could just use chrome remote...
novel horizon
yeah, i know that
novel horizon
but thats just addition for the things it says I think
floral mesa
I assume your a chrome user because almost everyone uses chrome at some point or has it installed
novel horizon
I'm using it for a 2-3 years and it works
floral mesa
if your using MS edge also, thats technically chrome
potent fossil
fuck chrome
novel horizon
you run .exe, no installation and it just runs
potent fossil
when they figure out their memory issues then we'll see
novel horizon
and other side tells you their number, accepts it, and done
potent fossil
lul shadow
novel horizon
and the thing is - if you think the one connected to you is doing something inappropriate, when you move the cursor they can't do anything
foggy veldt
Imagine not buying a citrix license for your family to help your grandmother check her email
floral mesa
I find it a lot easier to tell clients to open up a chrome window and go into google's remote desktop app
than tell them to go into teamviewer or anydesk
novel horizon
lul shadow
?
floral mesa
and if its for personal use, I just use ssh+x11 or RDP
viral hornet
novel horizon
help friends or work on personal projects = free
potent fossil
this is what i see on the homepage https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Pale-Waterbug-b6.png
novel horizon
lul shadow
and whats this 
novel horizon
well now you know why
floral mesa
winrar is still a thing? 7-zip pretty much covers all of that and I dont get complaints
potent fossil
i also use 7zip, i was just doing a good old throwback as the kids say
novel horizon
yeah but now you know why winrar lets you use it ๐คทโโ๏ธ although it is kinda weird, it's also smart, or it was
now every user.. well almost uses 7zip
it's better in every way, so
when i see someone use winrar im like 
don't
hey simple try anydesk sometimes
or dimple I don't know ๐
novel horizon
okay then whatever ๐ฆ
nah use whatever u want, just saying ^^ i like anydesk and won't go back to teamviewer, not missing it
i have no idea how they're detecting if its commercial use or personal one, would be nice to see
i want one punch man season 3 ๐ฆ
formal turret
honor system lol
short yarrow
Does anyone have a good explanation on what an integration test is? Like if I write a test for a class that calls an API and I don't mock anything, would that be considered an integration test? I've been reading some stuff and an integration test is when you test the interaction between Module A & Module B. What would be considered a module?
warm anchor
warm anchor
you can confirm it with a 10 million donation Tetra so the dev can be less busy on their day job ๐
waxen panther
yes if you paypal me $10 million i can assure you paper may hard fork eventually
hell, for you, $1 million
warm anchor
brocco is gonna make a fork that has all optimization of all other forks
vestal jasper
the year is 2253, @warm anchor now owns papermc, renames to uwuMC
warm anchor
wdym josh. It will become like that even without me
warm anchor
just text? dude, paper would be coded in uwu java
waxen panther
wava
warm anchor
jawawa nuwull pointer uwueption @waxen panther
waxen panther
fweenode ?
thats nice to see though
libera chat kinda a boring name but who cares
void void
hi
magic river
vernal moth
What's an anti R person, lmao
novel horizon
does anybody know some mmorpg? preferably free, maybe something like wow?
merry talon
wtf is libera.chat and why are people ditching freenode
dusk drift
does anybody know some mmorpg? preferably free, maybe something like wow?
Guild Wars 2
novel horizon
I heard about that one, but forgot the name a bit.. I'll try it for fun
it won't let me register and says, wish it would say something useful :/
got it working tho :3
cosmic raft
wtf is libera.chat and why are people ditching freenode
have you been living under a rock?
warm anchor
Sweepy lives under Seattle bridge. Letโs not make fun of his life choice!!
potent fossil
I've been living under a rock re: freenode. RIP. Just dropped my acc on freenode and migrated to libera. Time to never chat there just like I never chatted on freenode
autumn glen
Anyone know what the give command for a specific spawner type is?
minor badge
@sharp sentinel 
potent fossil
he keeps sending network wide messages too (dont know the name for that)
lmao
he's lost it
potent fossil
@thin apex https://regexr.com/5tnhu
tired hill
<- joind only to see this emojie
potent fossil
quasi valley
vernal bone
K 
tlin
potent fossil
Blegh. Every time I run code . from WSL, VS Code opens but not in WSL mode. I then get a popup to reload in WSL mode. I can't figure out why either. Something has to be misconfigured. It's supposed to open in WSL mode automatically, at least that's what I thought...
Ok watever. Nuked it from pc, reinstalled, and now it works. The ultimate fix
merry talon
simple
potent fossil
wat
merry talon
ur phone number is on ur website
potent fossil
yea
merry talon
:)
potent fossil
it's there for professional reasons sir
There it's now a google voice number cause you're freaking me out
merry talon
but i already have it >:)
novel horizon
??
potent fossil
mods plz make him stop harassing me
novel horizon
let me show this one simple trick.. oh haha simple get it XD but for real.. go to any archive websites, type there the website and boom you got the number again cool huh i know ๐คทโโ๏ธ
but for real idk whats your point is sweepy, be nice
potent fossil
that assumes someone archived it
merry talon
^
merry talon
welp
novel horizon
if your numbers starts 805 and ends with 5399 its there ๐คทโโ๏ธ not like it matters who would have call you
novel horizon
yeah
unreal quarry
signs up to random telemarketing sites using that number
merry talon
honestly I'm surprised you weren't getting loads of spam just from having it listed there
potent fossil
Well I'm hoping y'all aren't gonna be assholes like that
unreal quarry
inb4 girls start handing out that number to guys that ask for their number
novel horizon
not me โค๏ธ
sweepy is suspicious why he says it like that tho ๐
let's sign him up for telemarketing
potent fossil
whatever. do it and I'll just change the number, my life isn't really connected to it
would rather you didn't though
novel horizon
๐คทโโ๏ธ
merry talon
I've been here for like 8 years
novel horizon
nice
im a bit older than you but thats fine
haha i know funny
but idk what do you mean by here anyway ๐คทโโ๏ธ
let me do something โค๏ธ
wispy blade
discord isnt even 8 years old HOW
novel horizon
โ
merry talon
paper existed long before discord
glossy snow
You dont even got the early supporter discord badge smh
novel horizon
yeah, but you said "I've been here" ๐คทโโ๏ธ
congratulations now we're gonna talk who played minecraft first?
๐คทโโ๏ธ
merry talon
yeah I dunno why I don't have that I should
glossy snow
"Yea, iv been playing minecraft for like 15 years"
merry talon
errr
wispy blade
<- only bought java edition days before 1.11 came out
novel horizon
hey simple?
merry talon
point was I've been in the community longer than like, everyone but the top few and maybe billy
so I'm not gonna be sus with his number lmao
wispy blade
Susweepy
peak ginkgo
<- only bought java edition days before 1.11 came out
1.11? I was here for 1.4
potent fossil
k
peak ginkgo
novel horizon
he k'd me again damn
it's awful though i would never do it to him
but he just
k
novel horizon
the earliest mc i played was 1.0.0, in like 2011
i kinda remember the first server i played on
a bit
my house in the ground in dirt
novel horizon
also when i was younger i though render distance: far was in reality tiny or the lowest so i played like that at 5 FPS
wispy blade
first server i played on was cubecraft lol
void void
mine is some small smp that my friend invited me to
glossy snow
far=tiny. I love dumb kid logic
novel horizon
i still remember my first.. house.. it was from dirt, completely, with a dirt pillar so i can find it
wispy blade
YOOOO
novel horizon
i didn't knew basically any english words at that time and also i had german when i was in elementary school
so i had no idea what i'm doing in the menu almost
but hey it was fun
glossy snow
Yea i remember when i played the "tutorial" i didnt know how to craft a crafting table
novel horizon
im a bit waiting for 1.17 so i can start playing a bit
wispy blade
dutch minecraft is so scuffed LOL
novel horizon
takes quite some time and now when they're made the updates into 2 :/
glossy snow
I would burn down a forest with alpha fire
novel horizon
yeah i had no idea how to craft anything so i just googled how to do basic things
wispy blade
i know how to craft most things
glossy snow
i know how to craft most things
Lead recipe. right now go
wispy blade
only stuff i can't remember is potions and anything past 1.12 ->
lead was leather and string iirc
wispy blade
close enough :p
glossy snow
yea the lead from its release to just a year ago was always a mystery for me
novel horizon
i use lead really rarely
wispy blade
i always just kill the wandering trader so he drops his leads lol
novel horizon
๐ฎ
wispy blade
free llama as well
glossy snow
If you were able to use it on villagers. Then there would be somethin ๐
novel horizon
i want to play but idk ๐ฆ starting again
glossy snow
for like 1 version tho right?
wispy blade
idr
novel horizon
I think it never worked
i kinda have a memory of doing it, but im not sure if it was in modded or not
novel horizon
i want to play :/ but idk if i should make a server with few mods
or just wait for 1.17
but then ill wait also for 1.18
and have quite a work to do for update with people
wispy blade
reject 1.17 go back to 1.7.10
wispy blade
kek
novel horizon
I don't even play modded on any version than <1.12.2
i've played quite a few modpacks and the old versions, ew
I want new mods โค๏ธ
novel horizon
this looks interesting https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/create
I like some mods but i don't use some of them on server because dupe exploits
i think extra utils have some
or had
novel horizon
i want to play mc now 
novel horizon
wispy blade
might be a thing for the future when i upgrade my """server""" pc
novel horizon
yeah i had some modded server but it was too easy and too op, wanna play something lite
few mods at most
no applied energistics too, although its so great
i love the mod but the storage is just too good
wispy blade
true
novel horizon
well i tend to use with deep storage / deep blackhole unit though
so 2,14B of every item ๐คทโโ๏ธ
maybe with normal drives its more okay
wispy blade
you really don't need more than 65k stacks of any item ngl
novel horizon
or lower power generation
merry talon
i feel like i can never go back to not having AE2/RF
wispy blade
or was that not how it worked? i forgot
merry talon
like how
wispy blade
grindstone best early game block in AE2 change my mind
novel horizon
it doesn't work like that
but still
grindstone? not even close lol
depends on what modpack
wispy blade
modded skyblock ๐
novel horizon
also if i wanted to store anything more than just few things, i need much more space
i think if you store like 1 type of item it's like 500k to 1 drive
i wanted to hoard them ๐คทโโ๏ธ
auto miners etc
oh
wispy blade
hoarding ๐คฎ
novel horizon
i cannot run techniclauncher because i have only java 16
wispy blade
TECHNICLAUNCHER
novel horizon
yep
wispy blade
that takes me back
novel horizon
easiest thing to make modpack in too for other people to download
i didn't even finished the game i had in that modpack
novel horizon
i had like 200 hrs and still missed a lot of things
wispy blade
only build and stripmine for hours
novel horizon
and yeah i liked to hoard
that's why i wanted to play without it probably so i need to store items conveniently
and not have infinite space
wispy blade
still confused as to why twitch moved curseforge to overwolf
novel horizon
yeah its annoying
wispy blade
probably forgot to read up on it lol
novel horizon
im not using it anymore but used twitch before
vernal moth
They sold it, lmao
novel horizon
vernal moth
Curse forge is beging passed around like crazy
novel horizon
also this is a bit OP
novel horizon
thinking about playing a modpack with like.. 5-10 active mods
yeah i have it on hardmode
i played it before
and it is harder lol
so many RF
novel horizon
I've made so many things / crafted in draconic evolution
but i have autocraft for it โค๏ธ AE2 so
wispy blade
sf >2.5 = bad change my mind
novel horizon
also rftools is OP too, dimension building
i made it so it costs more and even then it's op
novel horizon
i'd maybe like something along those mods enderio/some utilities... idk even if tinkers construct
tinkers is nice but hmm
if i had no autominers though then it might be okay
wispy blade
i need tinkers if i play modded
novel horizon
yep
wispy blade
cuz holy crap i love that mod
novel horizon
i also used tinkertoollevelling +-
wispy blade
i miss 1.7.10 tinkers
novel horizon
wispy blade
where you could just get autorepair by using the tool
novel horizon
so you get more mods to use
wdym
its there still
like ardite with stone
or moss repairs
and such
or wood has autorepair
but its meh
novel horizon
I've had one hammer and it was really OP
i gave it to someone tho
idk if levels are too op or not
feels like it, but also if it's the only way to mine..
wispy blade
good mod but it's basically xray sometimes
novel horizon
"good" in some modpacks
wispy blade
^
foggy veldt
Are there any other major plugin repos besides paper, spigot, and mcm
wispy blade
really good in skyblock packs cuz you can just plant twerk veinmine repeat on trees
bukkit
it's time
novel horizon
okay so FTB has new claim mods so 1.16.5 is available hmmmm
woven otter
skyfactory 4 ๐คข
I didnt like sf4 at first but after a while it was pretty nice
novel horizon
damn i'd love enderio though for 1.16
also I'm planning to use logistics pipes lol
void void
vernal moth
website is in maintenance mode rn
we will provide a paperclip link in discord shortly
sorry for the inconvenience
cosmic raft
see #announcements
void void
How to download paper?
vernal moth
wait a bit then we will provide a temporary link
@void void https://papermc.io/paperclip.jar
22cec23547e3801e0d752f5110520d54463105b51bc10b4d886b5cc8da995ac2 for the sha256sum
potent fossil
what an annoying name
wispy blade
nah
vernal moth
points at the rules
potent fossil
and
wispy blade
funny
potent fossil
literally in the rules
- Formatting usernames to be difficult to read, to impersonate others, to advertise, or to be inappropriate.
wispy blade
there :>
vernal moth
please just take the hint
wispy blade
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
vernal moth
the day has been exhausting enough already
potent fossil
sonarr aint pushing my tv show to plex 
wispy blade
rip
nice my minecraft crashed while doing nothing :>
should probably allocate more ram
unkempt drift
Guess Iโm switching to spigot if downloads are still down. ๐
cosmic raft
vernal moth
Download page "works", I can download latest, idk what you talking about
mossy vessel
Paper added this "latest" endpoint everyone was yelling about
vernal moth
This is just a conspiracy to kill legacy downloads
worn ember
Good
worn crest
Good morning people ๐
worn ember
@wispy blade we don't do jokes here. Only reeeing and bullying people who use offline mode
wispy blade
man
wispy blade
๐
ashen cliff
https://i.imgur.com/PCbeTrR.png
Remove NodeJS.
worn ember
:node: nodejs
dusky magnet
Hi everyone.
Who can tell you? I have two disks on dedicated server,, but the servers use only one and it is completely clogged, the servers are turned off. How do I make the servers use the second disk as well ?
ashen cliff
Raid 0.
wraith oracle
I hate everything
I was updating my gradle build script and it wouldn't build no matter what I did
then after giving up I saw the announcements
wispy blade
happens
wraith oracle
my mind couldn't process the thought of the maven repo being down for whatever reason
twin lagoon
you clean up your server
olive marlin
Using raid 0 is better, cause also improves perf. But on the other hand, if one drive fails, all data is gone.
potent fossil
Oh no
worn ember
well that didnt take long haha
novel horizon
hah ^^
ashen cliff
OpenBSD users: Hi Mark!
worn ember
are you supposed to read it as miracles?
potent fossil
That's actually a cool vuln
Wait. Oh no. Some game developer somewhere is going to try to use this as a synchronization primitive, aren't they. Please don't. The world has enough cursed code already. Don't do it. Stop it. Noooooooooooooooo
dusky magnet
How do I move the builds to the second disk?
vernal moth
Ah yes, elitism at its finest
potent fossil
wat
worn ember
mini would never make fun of bad code 
wispy blade
dude actually ran bad apple on it
ashen cliff
He is a Touhou fan if you check his other videos.
quasi valley
it also yeets history if you move files, so you'll have to git blame or check in IDE
lucid helm
I still use KDiff for some files because a lot of more modern diffs are bad
quasi valley
no idea what kind of dark magic GitHub does there, but it's definitely not the good kind of dark magic
vernal moth
I haven't found a better diff tool than IJ yet
mental meadow
@vernal moth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTljfac-0ag
vernal moth
https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Biodegradable-Indianabat-1e.png
I know, without ?w=1 it's totally unusable
Yeah saw that already
mental meadow
tldr, bobby tables, they don't sanitize user inputs and you can just put whole excel macros as your username
worn ember
tf is a luca
charred loom
Why is that ever a thing?
mental meadow
because lobbyism
charred loom
Laws written by people who don't understand the tech?
worn ember
do politicians ever understand tech?
mental meadow
that's usually the case but they sometimes listen to people that know stuff. but in this case they not only not listened to tech people but they specifically went around safeguards preventing stupid decisions like that
have fun
charred loom
One of the apps in the UK had some fun, after back and forth on using the Google/Apple apis for tracing they eventually went with using them.
Released an app.
Then later they wanted to add a feature for tracking which businesses users went to by scanning QR codes as lockdown eased.
But the Google/Apple api said that the apps using them cannot be used to track users in any way.
So the government app was pulled from both app stores a day before the update was supposed to go live to coincide with lockdown easing coming into force.
worn ember
Love it how goverments are like "yeah but you cant track people" and the first thing they do i try to circumvent their own laws xD
limber knotBOT
governments are above lots of laws by design
worn ember
they're still below rtp devs
limber knotBOT
not sure why you would even need an app to track people, you can do that with wifi hotspots already
you can even send advertisements to phones via wifi ๐
worn ember
we just used celltowers to track people
limber knotBOT
wifi will only go so far on PC users
worn ember
well not individuals, but masses
limber knotBOT
celltowers get iffy as you can't track individuals and they can't be deployed by individual stores/companies
worn ember
like during lockdown, we used celltowers to see how busy to beach was and if they would be allowing more people or not
wraith oracle
That reminds me of the legislation in Florida which fines social media apps for banning/censoring politicians
limber knotBOT
with wifi (+BLE to get more exact) you can track a single person moving through your store
worn ember
doesnt that break gdpr?
limber knotBOT
you cannot be sued if noone knows
gdpr doesn't care about non-personal information
this is the one of the biggest loopholes in law, you can just hide whatever you have done
worn ember
cant it be used to identify people tho
limber knotBOT
the issue is that you will be judged harder if you try to hide and it gets discovered it as it implies malicious intend
The government is doing this all the time and they are still fine, so why can't I do that
but there is nothing to hide there, tracking people as they walk through your store is totally fine as long as you don't connect that data to e.g. the credit card information that the user payed with
limber knotBOT
also as I said: the executive gets lots of excemptions from common laws
why would you track them through a store though?
it just needs to be in line with the constitution
so you know which products people find interesting
or maybe analyze the layout and change it if you notice people not walking a certain direction at all
but wouldn't that be already doable by looking at what is actually bought?
people might not buy stuff they look at
quasi valley
they're still below rtp devs
you got me with that one 
limber knotBOT
e.g. if tons of people walk to a specific product category, but nobody buys it then you should find out why they aren't doing that
I guess the layout is a good explaination, not too many alternatives for that
worn ember
store layouts are very cleverly designed
you'd be surprised how much thought goes into them
limber knotBOT
yeah, it's insane
It's also a bit worrying
Though it really depends on what kind of person you are
but I only ever buy food in-store and only really buy the stuff I need so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
worn ember
well they go for the "general" "i'm lazy i'll just buy whats infront of my eyes" approach
cuz thats how most people shop
ashen cliff
you'd be surprised how much thought goes into them
The cameras there aren't just for catching people stealing.
vernal moth
but I only ever buy food in-store and only really buy the stuff I need so ยฏ\_(ใ)...
Well, online it's so much worse than in stores ^^
worn ember
Best thing to do is to just write everything you need down :p
that way you dont buy stuff you dont need
vernal moth
I go basically blind thru the grocery story, I automatically grab everything i do each week
I get really confused if the move stuff
limber knotBOT
I mean, online I just buy what I want 
vernal moth
One week I almost brought poultry salmi
worn ember
yeah but they also know what you want, based on stuff what you bought before
which they cant do in a physical store
vernal moth
Cause they switched stuff around
limber knotBOT
Doesn't sound all too bad
good thing my store hasn't really changed up anything
I know a store that likely hasn't changed layouts in probably half a decade, likely more
but the one my family went to when I was younger always changed every couple years. it was so annoying
I know a couple that do this, can't really get my head wrapped around how people can tolerate this
worn ember
nipple cream is my favorite product
limber knotBOT
I wish twitter had a way to put notes on people. I forget why I followed some lol
warm anchor
Must not be important then if you forget!
twin lagoon
@warm anchor 
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> <:AYAYA:802527009837678592>
@twin lagoon 
worn ember
Must not be important then if you forget!
whats your twitter? So i can forget why i followed you
warm anchor
whats your twitter? So i can forget why i followed you
linked on Discord profile but I rarely use it
also
worn ember
vernal moth
Unreal engine 5 just released into early access :O
wispy blade
hmmm
ashen cliff
Time to see how bad devs can make the world look.
Better bump up that bloom and burn my eyes out.
golden gust
eyes are overrated anyways
ashen cliff
Or better yes, some cursed DIY HDR method that just nukes all colors.
But it looks good on my display, you just have to get a 5k TV to experience it.
charred loom
Eyes? hasn't that been deprecated by now? We've been running on radar for a while now and it's been a vast improvement.
ashen cliff
Yeah, radar should get cheap now that Musk killed the whole industry. /s
worn ember
2022 i think
https://yourcountdown.to/one-punch-man-season-3 at least according this site
worn ember
what server?
vernal moth
unreal slackers, ue5 announcement link, 56k users, 17k online
lets ignore its still called slackers even tho they long moved from slack to discord
worn ember
lol
vernal moth
slack suffered so bad from that community
worn ember
how so?
vernal moth
too big
worn ember
ah yeah
@vernal mothis there anything in minimessage to translate placeholders already in components? Currently configurate deals with them using the adventure serializers for it, but they dont deal with placeholders, don't see it mentioned in the docs either so probably not, but doesnt hurt to ask
waxen panther
no
vernal moth
Wdym translate placeholders?
vernal moth
Cat did shit on the rug infront of the server and now the smell clogged the fans and the server is on fire
worn ember
damn cat methane
foggy veldt
Android?
vernal moth
my company: announces that they will offer vaccinations in house for all employees and their families
my poor little intranet application: https://i.imgur.com/j29rj6L.png
excuse the literal screen shot, work pc
kek, there goes my hope of running the ue5 demo on my PC https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/846520322642411570/847131348372160562/unknown.png
golden gust
oh god, I forgot about the joys of iframes
worn ember
wym cat? iframes are great
vivid ivy
16 times the detail 
vivid ivy
Does Single core performance with minecraft scale linearly? Like if a cpu has 60% more single core performance than another, does that also mean 60% better performance on a server?
vivid ivy
Is there a general estimate that could be made?
vivid ivy
That's what I thought. Unlucky.
worn ember
Best you can do is test, other than that gl hf
waxen panther
Iโm linear
worn ember
ur downscale
vivid ivy
When I see you I become all linear 
worn ember
golden gust
performance is complex
potent fossil
GET A ROOM
formal turret
๐คจ
vivid ivy
Close enough
worn ember
reee
potent fossil
magic river
UE5 demo is 100GB because it's showing off how fast they can stream in photogrammetry, iirc
vivid ivy
16 times the speed
vernal moth
yeah
vivid ivy
vernal moth
they also went insane with models
magic river
Needs more RAM on PC because it doesn't have the guarantee of a fast SSD and special compression system so needs a bigger cache
worn ember
hdd: i'm about to end this mans whole carreer
vivid ivy
Let's just replace drives with more RAM, ez fix
vernal moth
yeah that makes sense, on PC they don't have the direct access gpu <-> ssd shit yet
magic river
I don't remember any models in the demo being insanely detailed, unless it's a different demo?
The one where they introduced UE5 they were mostly showing off how they could zoom into the cliff face and see all the details
I suppose that's technically a model but they didn't make it, as far as I know, it's just from real life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photogrammetry
worn ember
i suppose adventure is also on the same maven repo?
vernal moth
adventure is on central
potent fossil
๐
worn ember
hm then intellij borked again
fails to download repo's often after windows comes out of sleepmode
ashen cliff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1ZnM7CH-v4
Would be nice if they added multi GPU support. 
golden gust
you know
vernal moth
ashen cliff
How devs see multi GPU setup users: Rich people who can afford expensive GPUs.
Real multi GPU users: People who somehow found another matching card in the bin.
vernal moth
I know
worn ember
imagine being able to afford a bin
ashen cliff
Good thing it's not yours.
magic river
Virtualized geometry is what Carmack kept trying to get to too
That's why they were messing with sparse voxel octrees
He'd already done it with textures (MegaTexture) but apparently that ended up being a flop
It was nice that artists could just go in an editor and paint on the geometry however they wanted with as much detail as they wanted but the editor was kind of shit and it made asset reuse hard/impossible
Yeah the woman in this demo is noticeably less detailed than the terrain
Not quite as bad as when you put a cartoon in a real world scene (Who Framed Roger Rabbit?) but similar
wtf Amazon bought MGM
vernal moth
whats the problem with that?
I for one can't wait for a bezos cameo in the next james bond
magic river
tbh I thought Sony already owned MGM
magic river
They made Fargo
magic river
Oh hey AT&T ditched Warner Bros
Well, I think they still own it but it's an independent company again?
And it merged with Discovery
warm anchor
people actually play dungeons?
I do until I realize I need to grind in a single player game
-.-
frank otter
didn't you are the person got kicked a while ago
long fog
why
waxen panther
I think md has better things to do
long fog
^^
waxen panther
long fog
what does your issue regard?
md5 is a developer of spigot and bungeecord, he doesnt have time for low level support
people in the spigot/paper discord or irc that volunteer their free time?
or spigot forums if you have coding questions
why
worn ember
Bruh moment
long fog
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
waxen panther
what email did you email
cunning raft
Twitter
waxen panther
Slow
worn ember
Probably had issues building cuz paper repo was down
waxen panther
You should mail unban-support@spigotmc.org
yeah tons of malware
something called โEssentialsDiscordโ ?
?
worn ember
Brocc doesn't troll
crystal compass
all of the sudden my maven shit itself and wont connect lol
worn ember
Read #announcements
waxen panther
worn ember
Sniped
unkempt drift
waxen panther
ok
crystal compass
RIP
wide chasm
https://twitter.com/slicedlime/status/1397596175683969024
If this is it for 1.17, then this is one of the lightest updates we have had in a while
waxen panther
How am I trolling
thick rune
i downloaded a hub compass plugin and it doesnt even have a config file how am i supposed to add the servers now
untold copper
its not that hard
waxen panther
Ask the plugin creator
left swift
Maybe he should get unbanned from spigot so he can go back there and join the other cesspoolians and leave us alone
thick rune
Ask the plugin creator
the website literally says to get into the config
waxen panther
shhhh mana
untold copper
the website literally says to get into the config
ask the plugin creator
waxen panther
yea well itโs nothin to do with paper
untold copper
this is not a paper-related issue
waxen panther
My magic ball is broken
worn ember
Fix it
waxen panther
My magic ball fixing tool is broken
untold copper
fix the tool
thick rune
this is not a paper-related issue
guess why i didnt ask for help
warm anchor
Just throw a stone at ded. He will sometimes give you right answer
untold copper
guess why i didnt ask for help
no
quasi valley
If this is it for 1.17, then this is one of the lightest updates we have had in ...
are you drunk stef
wide chasm
How do you mean?
untold copper
1.17 is heavy
untold copper
not much but yeah it does have some stuff
1.17 + the caves part combined will be heavy
warm anchor
It's bascailly just a block texture patch at this point 
untold copper
lol
waxen panther
i probably wont expand borders for this one
quasi valley
only that โthe caves partโ is basically already in the game
worn ember
What!!! Where are my 20 new blocks and 4 new mechanics???
waxen panther
fact!
warm anchor
Can they even naturally spawn? since there is no mountain yet?
untold copper
but i still find it cool
warm anchor
no borcoo YOU are the best part 
waxen panther
woa woa woaowaow awa
left swift
Brocc is the mountain and eternity is a goat ๐ณ
waxen panther
worn ember
Can they even naturally spawn? since there is no mountain yet? <:PepeLa:79895109...
Wym. They probably spawn above a certain y level
wide chasm
1.17 feels like a 1.10/1.11 atm tbh.
worn ember
Good
untold copper
kinda yes
ripe sphinx
1.17 feels like a 1.10/1.11 atm tbh.
at least updating shouldn't be too hard, just some stuff to add to Material and a couple other bits
(although md will probably find some way to do so in a silly way lol)
wide chasm
At least that is an advantage
waxen panther
i just got cold brew all down my hoodie aaaaaaaa
quasi valley
you do realize thereโs that whole custom world height thing right
warm anchor
wtf brocco
waxen panther
im just glad i didnt have my white one on lol
warm anchor
I thought that's delayed Kneny?
quasi valley
itโs still in the game
just as well as everything done in the snapshots, nothing has been removed
wide chasm
Everything was jus pushed back to 1.18, making this update extremely light in content
olive marlin
All that stuff is in the MC "engine", just the default, built in datapack doesn't enable it.
quasi valley
as I just said, itโs still in the game
if md did it right, you could enable all of it in a plugin
wide chasm
I mean, what do you expect?
quasi valley
and custom world height biomes etc you can also use in data packs, plugins
unkempt drift
I think he'll prob say no api for anything 1.18
olive marlin
But yeah. That's gonna be a relatively light update.
quasi valley
Iโm expecting you not to say โthe update is lightโ lol
just because you canโt see it doesnโt mean it isnโt there
warm anchor
if md did it right, you could enable all of it in a plugin
that's a tall order
wide chasm
No, I mean, md won't add that
quasi valley
ah right, yeah
warm anchor
limpid comet
quasi valley
waxen panther
silly kneny
wide chasm
And still, for like 99% of people, backend changes are invisible.
waxen panther
just hard fork? ๐
olive marlin
Hopefully paper Hard forks by then and MM PRs that API.
wide chasm
If you're playing the game, this update won't bring you anything
warm anchor
we will hook zzzcat up with IV and some drugs and make him hardfork
quasi valley
unless youโre cool and enable the features 
wide chasm
Doesn't help that they removed stuff (read: not accessible by default) in the last snapshot (or snapshot before that, who knows)
quasi valley
itโll be interesting to see who takes the risk and offers players a 1.18 preview they are likely unable to do themselves
even if itโs just throwing a datapack into your world
wide chasm
You always have Mojang's datapack available
olive marlin
We were considering it, but I pretty strongly disagreed with doing it.
warm anchor
It will be a big holiday update... I guess people were disappointed coz many still stuck at home bored. especially the young people like @untold copper etc
wide chasm
It will be a big holiday update... I guess people were disappointed coz many sti...
They first promised quite a substantial update, they then split it in two and now many features are being pushed back to 1.18. I can see why people would be disappointed by that.
quasi valley
I do wonder what they'll do with the extra 6 months tho 
limpid comet
minecraft rolling releases
quasi valley
that's a lot of time
waxen panther
probably nothing more than whats expected
stoic yacht
when will PAPER be online?
wide chasm
I'm not expecting much more either tbh, I'm guessing they'll focus on ensuring the new world generation will work properly and then adding the stuff that didn't make it in 1.17
waxen panther
the pushed archaeology "past the next update" so im assuming they still think it'll be tight
stoic yacht
when will PAPER be online?
?
wide chasm
Maybe the fletching table will get a UI in 1.18, oh who am I kidding
quasi valley
you can always dream
quasi valley
oh wow
minor badge
kneny is rude to me !
minor badge
garbage collection
ripe sphinx
Object oriented programming
mbax has a great list of essential java resources somewhere, lemme dig that up
Start with this -
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/concepts/index.html
Breeze through this skipping stuff that doesn't seem relevant like bitwise operators-
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/nutsandbolts/index.html
and then hit this
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/javaOO/index.html
there it is
(that's all official java tutorials from oracle)
quasi valley
those one-sentence descriptions oracle provides don't really help new developers at all
minor badge
damn you got something in common kneny . . . ... . .
haughty bear
jetbrains academy
olive marlin
Constructor injection VS dependency injection
minor badge
kneny dumb .
ripe sphinx
?
olive marlin
And programming principles:
SOLID
DRY
KISS
...
They help structuring up our code and keeping it maintainable.
limber knotBOT
is this where the cool kids hang out
quasi valley
quite the opposite
worn ember
Just me tbh
limber knotBOT
sadge
seeing everything with freenode going down gave me nostalgia so booted up the old ZNC
limber knotBOT
indeed
got very busy with life
first vacation in 8 years
off for a few months
thick rune
anyone has a good like server selector plugin
frank otter
Freenode went down?
olive marlin
Freenode got taken over and management started booting channels.
olive marlin
Old ops are moving to Liberia chat
limber knotBOT
additional tips for improving server performance - https://www.spigotmc.org/posts/3684550
heh, first
half lynx
thx
limber knotBOT
some really new plattform
olive marlin
Libera chat, thanks mobile keyboard.
limber knotBOT
Launched the day of the drama I think
However from just being in 1 channel (#mcdevs), I have no seen much changes other than a slight divide
olive marlin
Yeah, old people from freenode launched it when they started to take over freenode.
I've seen a few channel ovners get booted.
limber knotBOT
The takeover has been happening over a few months afaik
olive marlin
Yeah.
limber knotBOT
is libera any good?
minor badge
##linux is moving there, so probably
warm anchor
alright where can I report proxi for bullying me
all complains about paperMC mod goes to proxi so you are doomed 
olive marlin
Got more heated when the resignation etter draft leaked.
vernal moth
Libera is free node but actually free
limber knotBOT
discord vs irc is a matter of opinion
They all said that
irc is older, more open? discord
At least IRC has a semi-competent way of blocking people
then theres matrix
quasi valley
@minor badge hello I want to formally report you bullying me
warm anchor
quasi valley
as eternity suggested
limber knotBOT
matrix is just strange
minor badge
@quasi valley ok i have looked over the facts and it appears you are making a report in bad faith
limpid comet
@minor badge 
minor badge
hi bluely
limber knotBOT
Neither did I to be really honest
minor badge
matrix is cool
limber knotBOT
Should do that, but it would be yet another client to install
i like the concept of a decentralised stuff and stuff
minor badge
definitely can't be daily driver for now, but it's fiiine
olive marlin
I own a few channels which are bridges to freenode.
minor badge
and it's got online clients, geolykt
limber knotBOT
doesnt weexhat bridge to basically everything
minor badge
in fact, online clients are the most common
limber knotBOT
online clients are not my thing tbh
olive marlin
But it didn't really stood out to me.
worn ember
ah yes poop clients
limber knotBOT
poop clients?
worn ember
irc is short for poop, didnt you know?
worn ember
i think i had an angry moment at some point lmao
limber knotBOT
or better, go to darkeye in person and deliver a hand written letter saying you disagree
But mah 2000's laptop bios colour theme :<
stfu server is what i did when minexraft didnt do what it was supposed to
limber knotBOT
an impekentation of a stfu server?
the only downside i gave found to irc is its in termux on mobile
so no keeb autocomplete/autocorrect
worn ember
keeboard
limber knotBOT
those are not the best either way
worn ember
sounds like you could use some autocorrect tho
limber knotBOT
i type on mobile in a wierd way
someone i know irl says im a menace to the mlbile community for it
worn ember
i love it when it still autocorrects fuck to duck
limber knotBOT
come to termux
theres no autocorrect
we all duck down here
googles what termux is
terminal for android
Ah yes, linux emulator on a linux system
only rhing i could find
worn ember
googles what google is
limber knotBOT
iirc termux isnt an emulator?
it has weird paxkages tho
"Termux is an Android terminal emulator and Linux environment app", well, it is an emulator, perhaps not a linux emulator but an emulator nonetheless
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by DarkEyeDragon#5583 - whats my ip - result 1 of 9
wraith trail
nice try
worn ember