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novel horizon
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poor snoopa

untold copper
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im sad now :c

novel horizon
worn ember
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sad_pepe am jokin

untold copper
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booli

quasi valley
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are you tho kappa

waxen panther
worn ember
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you ever just forget to focus discord and start typing while still focused on yt and your screen goes all over the place?

novel horizon
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โ˜ป

untold copper
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yes

waxen panther
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No

novel horizon
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no?

worn ember
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multiscreen problems ig

novel horizon
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oh it happened few times, not much

waxen panther
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Windows problems

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๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

untold copper
novel horizon
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damn broc

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thats awful

waxen panther
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gottem

untold copper
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imagine having multiscreen

waxen panther
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dinner have fun kids

untold copper
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cant

worn ember
novel horizon
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โ†‘โ†‘ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

worn ember
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thats a lie

novel horizon
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y

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why do you say lies

worn ember
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i was born like this

novel horizon
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alright then its fine

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unless this is another lie

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๐Ÿ‘€

worn ember
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you'll never know

novel horizon
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yeah it's fine

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should i use griefprevention instead of res

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hmm

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i like some flags tho

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let me check redprotect i never heard about that

worn ember
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pretty sure redprotect was discontinued in favor of griefdefender

novel horizon
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alright its a joke they can't write "thauMcraft"

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they say it's still updated and for 1.16+

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last update 2020 tho

worn ember
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might have been something else then

novel horizon
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ill look at griefdefender

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$15 woah

peak ginkgo
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RoboMWM

worn ember
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yeah not worth it

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also if you get stuck outside the worldborder it'll spam unknown command in console lul

peak ginkgo
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fuck you mean $15 compiling is free

novel horizon
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really lol

worn ember
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idk if that was fixed or not

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but i use it to test rtp

novel horizon
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yeah it has source code available

peak ginkgo
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Just don't expect them or anyone here to help you.

novel horizon
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don't expect anyone here to help you, got it

peak ginkgo
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But at the same time GriefPrevention is great

novel horizon
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yeah i kinda like GP

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I used it on tekkit lite quite some time ago

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i maintaned a tekkit lite server, griefprevention was kinda great before

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it blocked some usage of things, while others did almost nothing

worn ember
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man i remember the tekkit classic days

novel horizon
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    1. 2014 video about the server I maintained
worn ember
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if you didnt take out NEI on the serve ryou could switch to creative without perms

novel horizon
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maybe GP is good

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because of it's ease of use

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in tekkit classic? damn idk about this, or i forgot already

worn ember
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yea

novel horizon
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hmm that description of GP seems nice

worn ember
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you can also easitly crash any server with EE

novel horizon
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EE is really .. bad

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i hate it kinda

worn ember
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yeah

novel horizon
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like when i was younger i loved it it was "awesome"

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but later

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no thanks

worn ember
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its so cheaty lol

novel horizon
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it ruins the whole game

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you get 1 item of anything and boom, infinite

worn ember
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you're literally creating items out of thin air

novel horizon
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also there were farms before with blaze rod/blaze powder

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yeah

peak ginkgo
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That is the entire point DED

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"transmutation"

novel horizon
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yeah it is

worn ember
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its nto transmutation

novel horizon
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but it ruins the game for me

worn ember
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its creating something from "light"

peak ginkgo
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We might be thinking two different EMC mods

novel horizon
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like sure, there are some points for it

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like on skyblock? nice

worn ember
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the original one

peak ginkgo
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I think it got "better" in later versions.

worn ember
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EE2 was better yea

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im fine with that

peak ginkgo
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EE2 fixed al the issues everyone had with the transmutation system

novel horizon
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yep we're talking about tekkit classic and such, so older version

peak ginkgo
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And helped automators actually automate it

novel horizon
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as I said, I kinda liked it before

wispy blade
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calling with friend

novel horizon
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but it seems so cheaty as DED said, in some ways it's nice

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but it also ruins the game, because you dont need a lot of things

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why would you create farm for wood or stone, or any material

worn ember
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the armor was also op

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cuz you could literally not die

novel horizon
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yeah

peak ginkgo
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I think the modder learned a little bit of game design and had to balance it out

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So in retrospect, eh can't be too mad

novel horizon
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well I used mod draconic evolution in newer packs, so, thats also OP

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but i played it in hard mode and it required A LOT of materials

peak ginkgo
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Draconic Evolution is hard i dont like

worn ember
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draconic is somewhat balanced cuz it requires a lot of stuff to set up

novel horizon
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kinda

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but still is OP

worn ember
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agreed

peak ginkgo
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defo a late game mod

novel horizon
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but there's other things that are broken

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like

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redstone arsenal

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do u know that

peak ginkgo
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Did Paper switch to main

novel horizon
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I think it's this one

peak ginkgo
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oh no i just spelt the org name wrong

novel horizon
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there's 1 armor that takes literally like gold, few diamonds and redstone

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and if you have energy, you are IMMUNE TO ANY PHYSICAL DMG

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any

worn ember
novel horizon
peak ginkgo
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yeah bc this isnt right

novel horizon
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this one

peak ginkgo
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its PaperMC

worn ember
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ye lul

novel horizon
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I think this is more BS than draconic

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draconic has shield and if you deplete it, you can die, although there's that if it has energy, you cannot die

peak ginkgo
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OH I forgot I was modifing paper

worn ember
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still better than tinker items completely bypassing armor lol

novel horizon
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but with this armor, you are literally immune to any physical dmg

peak ginkgo
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Nothing was pulling in

novel horizon
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you got weapon with 200+ attack dmg? oh lol this armor from REDSTONE blocks it

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literally

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and that weapon with 200+ attack dmg costed like billions of RF and chaos guardian crystals etc (from drac evolution)

worn ember
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it drains a lot faster with high dmg hits tho

novel horizon
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If you have any batteries with you, it can take a lot of damage

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it's 200 RF per damage point per hit, if you have 200 dmg, it is 40000 RF, batteries there have easily dozens of millions

worn ember
novel horizon
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I think their battery from the thermal expansion has like 25M RF basic and with enchant it can be more

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and also you can have multiple batteries ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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I find that weird

worn ember
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deobfuscation be like

novel horizon
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2 people hitting each other, if you have draconic evolution armor and that armor, that armor probably wins lol

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from REDSTONE damn i hate it kinda ๐Ÿ˜„

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oh you got armor that takes hundreds of resources, even nether stars? oops your fault should have mined few stacks of redstone

worn ember
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i mean, most end game armor is broken, non of this shit is ment for competitive pvp anyway

novel horizon
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yeah but its just broken

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you can make it easily after few hours of playing

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silver, gold, redstone basically, few diamonds and you got it

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but hey every mod has its own thing

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should i swap to griefprevention ๐Ÿค” i'd be a lot easier to use for people

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i may swap after update

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maybe i'll do a poll for it, not sure

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but GP is enough already and for other things I need personally (as a admin), worldguard regions are enough

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no need for flags from residences maybe

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I also found a lot of servers with residences with enabled flags like feed/fly/heal and such, that's also funny

mental meadow
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hello peoples

novel horizon
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hello

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๐Ÿ‘‹

untold copper
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hi

novel horizon
waxen panther
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omg heyyyyyy awojrwa

novel horizon
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uwu?

mental meadow
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brrororocococo

peak ginkgo
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WHAT

waxen panther
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WHAT

peak ginkgo
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incase thats too small

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[ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project spigot: Could not resolve dependencies for project org.spigotmc:spigot:jar:1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT: Failed to collect dependencies at org.spigotmc:minecraft-server:jar:1.16.5-SNAPSHOT: Failed to read artifact descriptor for org.spigotmc:minecraft-server:jar:1.16.5-SNAPSHOT: Could not transfer artifact org.spigotmc:minecraft-server:pom:1.16.5-SNAPSHOT from/to maven-default-http-blocker (http://0.0.0.0/): Blocked mirror for repositories: [md_5-releases (http://repo.md-5.net/content/repositories/releases/, default, releases+snapshots)] -> [Help 1]
novel horizon
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you don't know? spigot got cancelled

golden gust
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you have a http repo

worn ember
golden gust
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that needs to be https

peak ginkgo
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Unsure how to fix that

worn ember
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http in 2021

golden gust
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literally, add an s after http

peak ginkgo
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This is just paper upstream

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No I mean like this isnt my repo

worn ember
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add the s to the remote

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oh

golden gust
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I mean, if that's spigots repo you'll need to scream to them

quasi valley
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downgrade maven kappa

worn ember
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via maven wen

golden gust
waxen panther
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hardfork wen

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wont need spigots repo then

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๐Ÿ˜

golden gust
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We've already fixed that

peak ginkgo
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I have bitbucket access I should be able to go fix it I think

waxen panther
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โ˜น๏ธ

worn ember
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wtf is that face

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kill it

limpid comet
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:frowning3:

worn ember
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Illegal

untold copper
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Unlegal

novel horizon
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Delegal

olive garden
waxen panther
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mmmm

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about average

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@minor badge made me moody

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๐Ÿ™„

olive garden
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same

minor badge
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ok

olive garden
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@minor badge bruh you closed the PR referencing a commit that only addresses half of it

waxen panther
olive garden
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I don't think that's the appropriate reaction brocc

waxen panther
olive garden
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do you know how much time I have spent phrasing all that text in that PR?

waxen panther
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hours?

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javadocs are impossible .

olive garden
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at least 1!

waxen panther
olive garden
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I could have procrastinated instead for all that time

mossy vessel
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Ok

olive garden
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you sure as hell know how to end a conversation

spiral robin
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Ok

cosmic raft
olive garden
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๐Ÿ‘

novel horizon
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phoenix wth why does it not detect essintials and worled ๐Ÿ˜ 

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MobLimit from phoenix too ๐Ÿ‘€

cunning raft
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Some plugins (like Essentials) don't properly register their command permissions. Because of this ignorance of the Bukkit API this plugin cannot display their permission.

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lmfao

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more like someone fucked up the bukkit api years ago and now we can't use it

ashen cliff
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What if, you drop old version support? kekwhyper

novel horizon
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Phoenix also has RTP plugin blurryeyes

ashen cliff
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Everyone has a RTP plugin.

novel horizon
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Seems like it

waxen panther
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Everyoneโ€™s first plugin

cunning raft
ashen cliff
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Do it.

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Like now.

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Or take the LuckPerms approach and have a -legacy jar.

cunning raft
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it's planned but not for a bit

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not before/close after 1.17

wispy blade
novel horizon
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mine neither, i don't have any plugin made by me

true canyon
cunning raft
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yeah probably

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last i knew the major reason we didn't use bukkit's perms shit is because it made it so we couldn't forward commands to other plugins anymore

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since bukkit wouldn't even dispatch the command to us

golden gust
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.java11

limber knotBOT
waxen panther
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thank you cat

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i agree, jroy should use java 11

vestal jasper
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thank you cat

vernal moth
waxen panther
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shh

vestal jasper
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I don't think that question should be asked

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Like, baby steps

wispy blade
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kekw i find this really funny

novel horizon
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why

vestal jasper
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Learn how to manage your system before trying to manage a public service

novel horizon
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i think there's been worse questions

wraith trail
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they even said that literally right below where cat linked the java guide

wispy blade
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yeah

vestal jasper
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True, but, fallacy of relative privation

novel horizon
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that is better

vestal jasper
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There are worse questions but that doesn't make the current one any better

novel horizon
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yep

wispy blade
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i mean, i ask a lot of stupid questions

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but at least i know how to ask stupid questions

novel horizon
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hey i have a question?

wispy blade
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ask away

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oh wait xd

novel horizon
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this ^^

wispy blade
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ye i remembered

vestal jasper
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I like how they're not even sure if they have a question

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Like, they're asking you if they do or not

novel horizon
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well you need to make sure

wispy blade
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"do i have a question? not sure..."

worn ember
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go sleep

wispy blade
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no

foggy veldt
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Anyone managed to get maven shade working with jdk 16? I donโ€™t feel like switching to gradle :(

waxen panther
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errr ya switch to gradle

golden gust
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use the search feature

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somebody posted a workaround the other day

peak ginkgo
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alternatively

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install java 11

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:^)

waxen panther
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ew

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gross be quiet dejay

twin lagoon
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gradle Pog

wispy blade
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couldn't get gradle to make nice and cool directory not called lib ๐Ÿ˜”

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or im just inexperienced

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probably the latter

foggy veldt
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Got it working POGGERSpls record classes here I come

lean kiln
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kek

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maven shade will throw errors if you try and minimize a jar with records

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so will shadow

foggy veldt
golden gust
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one step forward

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in the dark, right into a black gate

lean kiln
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basically, jdependency needs to do a release, and then shadow and shade-plugin need to pull it

golden gust
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(why the fuck do people paint their gates black and leave them dangling into the street?)

wispy blade
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that's what i'd like to know

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my forehead hurts now

worn ember
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It's cuz it's so big

wispy blade
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WTF

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leaking personal details!!!!!!!! mods!!!!!!!!!!!

worn ember
warm anchor
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Why do you have the symbol of 12 year old emoji ded

wispy blade
lean kiln
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it's broccolais favorite youtuber

wispy blade
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i love mental outlaw

worn ember
novel horizon
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one of the most dangerous ways to setup a website.. haha sure, although i get the point, but still

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plugins just like everywhere else ^^

warm anchor
novel horizon
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why would you use wp statistics

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just use analytics whatever

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i wonder how long it takes until it's even fixed

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and those people in comments, damn, salty

wispy blade
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it's already fixed

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i think

novel horizon
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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why it has video then few months later, kinda whats the point

wispy blade
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idk

novel horizon
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well i guess its nice info for someone

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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

wispy blade
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mental outlaw does mental outlaw things

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mostly tech/protect your data channel also doing cooking vids sometimes lol

novel horizon
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yeah, well some content must be done, it's just for fun and info for people that wordpress sucks don't use it or rather dont use plugins

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just code everything yourself as people say in comments, easy... right...

wispy blade
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yeah, easy

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just use their api

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/s

twin lagoon
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@warm anchor AYAYA weebHuggu

warm anchor
twin lagoon
warm anchor
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everyone dead tonight FeelsBadMan

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Monday soon dedrie

elfin talon
quartz peak
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anyone have a link to update java? forgot how to do it

wraith trail
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.java11

limber knotBOT
quartz peak
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ty

wraith trail
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just replace 11 with 16 in your head

potent fossil
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proxi best article writer

minor badge
potent fossil
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cyoot

left swift
potent fossil
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hi mana

cosmic raft
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hi

modest path
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printer is back

potent fossil
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hi kash

faint sage
unkempt drift
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out of memory?

vestal jasper
vestal jasper
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chill we're only 15 minutes into the day we don't need this yet

merry talon
unkempt drift
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Gotta be a troll

waxen panther
unkempt drift
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Mm hmm. Sure you are ๐Ÿ˜›

vestal jasper
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you're on your own then

unkempt drift
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Likeโ€ฆ ugh. What possible reason would you want 1.6 minecraft

quasi valley
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and I just need runtime mappings

vestal jasper
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inb4 some ancient modpack

quasi valley
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don't we all have wishes

vestal jasper
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the solution is to use modern software

unkempt drift
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Lol wat

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Iโ€™ve never heard that. You want to have to double tap to sprint?

vestal jasper
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good luck with that

quasi valley
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never heard about sprint mods, eh? kappa

merry talon
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you guys are feeding into it

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like seagulls to a dropped box of fries

vestal jasper
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there's always someone to feed it

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if not us, someone else

minor badge
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?ban @void void Obvious trolling is not appreciated. You've been kicked before, take the hint.

thorny flickerBOT
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:raised_hands: Banned Obydux#9377 (Obvious trolling is not appreciated. You've been kicked before, take the hint.) [2 total infractions] -- Proximyst#6900.

twin lagoon
waxen panther
minor badge
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truly amazing

twin lagoon
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the struggles of asian shipping companies

olive marlin
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Loaded in for me @twin lagoon

twin lagoon
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wtf

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that shit just does not load here

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it loads the title but ends up being stuck loading

olive marlin
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You just have bad internet smh

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It took a minute, but it loaded.

twin lagoon
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doesn't work with VPN either

olive marlin
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If you want me to check something, DM me your tracking number.

twin lagoon
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n oMEGAlul

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what happens if i open it in internet explorer

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i don't have internet explorer apparently so nvm

vernal bone
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Try using a public searx instance

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Something near to the websites host kekw

twin lagoon
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maybe that's why

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how the fuck does this not load in internet explorer 11

wispy blade
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because internet explorer is shit

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:)

flint shore
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Hi there

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Any plugin that allows players on the server to get a certain item with a command?

quasi valley
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/give? kappa

flint shore
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But the operator has to do that right?

twin lagoon
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that's why a permission plugin exists

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e.g. LuckPerms

quasi valley
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and if that's too scary for you, essentialsx

flint shore
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I have Luckperms installed already. I've given them some permissions for certain plugins

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But I'm not sure how to do the same with an in game command?

quasi valley
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essx would ofc have per command permissions you can find on their site, Vanilla commands are also given permissions I think, maybe you can find them on bukkit dev or by using LuckPerms debug

olive marlin
flint shore
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I've used essentials in the past but I just wanted to know if there's any plugin that does just that

olive marlin
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Just use the built in command, it has permission nodes.

ashen cliff
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๐Ÿค”

flint shore
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@olive marlin this?

olive marlin
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I think the first one.

flint shore
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For instance, if I wanted to give a /give @p sand

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How would that work?

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Like I just want the players to be able to get sand and other falling blocks

olive marlin
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Oh, then you'd need to get a plugin for that.

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Could use some plugin which let's you make custom commands with permissions.

flint shore
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Alright

hearty compass
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Why not just wait for java 17

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And then directly switch to java 17

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Instead of java 11

vestal jasper
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Vanilla requires j16

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Well the snapshots do

hearty compass
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But it will work with higher right

novel horizon
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Should work just fine

waxen panther
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yes

novel horizon
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Some plugins may have problems, sometimes. It should be rare though

hearty compass
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And even mojang will shift to 17 maybe when it is released

vestal jasper
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We'll see when the time comes

novel horizon
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I know some plugins now that doesn't fully support j16 yet

hearty compass
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I hope so

waxen panther
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its not difficult to change your java version anyway lol

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takes like 5 seconds if you dont have a pepega host

vestal jasper
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Well they'll update or they get flooded with issue reports

wispy blade
hearty compass
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It just seems confusing

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Lol

waxen panther
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how

wispy blade
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i love having to explain to people to google what they're looking for

vestal jasper
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Most people don't make the distinction between you googling the answer for them or you already knowing the answer

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They just see that they get an answer

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Google's their last resort, not first unfortunately

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Which is a shame because most any question or problem one could have has answer somewhere on google if you know the right keywords / terms to search

wispy blade
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yup

vestal jasper
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And if you use google enough, asking it questions or using it becomes second nature and completely trivial to do

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Which, in an age of information, is a potentially limitless skill to have, the skill to learn all skills.

olive marlin
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People think that to become a programmer, you need to learn X language. Learning how to Google is way more important.

golden gust
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how 2 google?

ashen cliff
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Daily reminder: 120cm/47 inch Touhou plushies exist.

wispy blade
ashen cliff
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Tenshi.

left swift
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Why google when I can join here and ask

wispy blade
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^

novel horizon
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because it's faster and people won't answer you after millions of questions ๐Ÿ™‚

left swift
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Ok paper, where can I find out how to tie shoe

warm anchor
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Just buy the shoes with Velcro

upbeat falconBOT
cedar spade
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I mean

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close

left swift
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Ribbons pog!

solid siren
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can anyone suggest any cheap website hosting

upbeat falconBOT
vestal jasper
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@warm anchor patcat

vestal jasper
solid siren
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hm

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can i change the website address everytime?

vernal moth
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you can buy as many domains as you would like

solid siren
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i mean im planning to make a website for a week

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and next week

warm anchor
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Domain and physical site place is not related

solid siren
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i will change the whole site

vernal moth
warm anchor
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So yes you can have as many as you can

solid siren
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example

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next week im gonna make it

left swift
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Example

warm anchor
left swift
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Yes

olive marlin
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You buy web server, you buy domain and point your domain at the server.

wispy blade
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github pages is free afaik

dusky magnet
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Guys, I don't understand why, but on the server, people can beat fast, although I use the 1.16 version
Can anyone tell me what this might be about?

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Hi

left swift
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What is fast

dusky magnet
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pvp 1.8

worn ember
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@solid sirenyou buy domains per year tho

solid siren
worn ember
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sure, idk why you'd ever want to do that

vernal moth
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you buy a domain and point it at your server

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you can buy as many domains as you want

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if you change what the server serves, all domains will show that new content

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unless you use a reverse proxy and run multiple websites on one server

worn ember
#

still dont see the point as why you'd want to use a different domain every other week tho, just seems confusing and pointless to me

#

point of domains is to be consistent and easy to remember

left swift
#

Dont think they're meaning what they're saying

worn ember
#

otherwise you might aswel just use the ip

warm anchor
#

Heโ€™s just a kid imagine stuffs he wants to do phossure

vernal moth
#

does anybody have a good scetch/wireframe tool for android tablets? like, I want adobe XD but for android tablets

warm anchor
#

Donโ€™t be too hard on him lol

worn ember
#

figma? idk if thats on android tho

left swift
#

Eternity being nice?!?!

upbeat falconBOT
worn ember
#

bruh what

left swift
#

Figma balls

vernal moth
#

Most of the desktop apps ony have mirrors

worn ember
#

yeah looks like its a mirror

golden gust
#

Thing is that a mobile is just not a good place for like, doing a lot of work on, so, people generally don't bother to create this kinda stuff as bar the odd self hating soul here and there, it's much easier and faster to do it on a real computer

worn ember
#

what happend to using a "real machine" mini?

#

oh excuse me, it was "real work" hah

vernal moth
#

Design stuff is so much nicer on a tablet

#

I would never draw using a mouse

left swift
#

And such

golden gust
#

You're not drawing

#

You're placing boxes

#

smh

left swift
worn ember
#

if you want to draw theres plenty of apps for that

vernal moth
#

And I don't have a laptop

warm anchor
#

Wtf!

vernal moth
#

Yeah maybe I'll just use a draw app

#

Or Photoshop

limber knotBOT
#

just get a drawing tablet smh

left swift
#

All laptops are is foldable tablets

worn ember
#

you can draw on tablet directly to your pc with most too

worn ember
left swift
#

Touch harder

worn ember
#

uwu

vernal moth
#

I don't feel like getting a drawing tablet for the one time I have to do design work cause nobody else wants to

worn ember
#

what exactly are you desinging? wireframes?

#

mockups?

cedar spade
#

inb4 mini becomes full time UX designer

warm anchor
#

Get one on company tab

#

Since itโ€™s assigned to you ? Need tool for the job? krappa

vernal moth
#

Hangar

worn ember
#

make kash pay for it

left swift
#

Make cat pay for it

warm anchor
#

Lmao

worn ember
#

make them both pay half

left swift
#

Make that mini guy pay for it he works on hangar

warm anchor
worn ember
#

you still havent said what you're trying to achieve mini

waxen panther
#

+1 for paperOhhh

left swift
#

Mystery

warm anchor
#

Just use paper chan everywhere krappa

worn ember
#

who?

vernal moth
#

So sketches, not wireframe

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Mockups I guess

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Fancy pictures

minor badge
#

idk where y'all keep getting this paperchan bs from, we never had a mascot or the likes

worn ember
#

hm yeah not really any solution for that on mobile as far as i'm aware

#

i just use adobe xd and illustrator

vernal moth
#

Meh

warm anchor
worn ember
#

and occasionally photoshop

waxen panther
#

@minor badge you should remove the emotes then, gives the wrong impression ๐Ÿ˜€

vernal moth
#

Photoshop it is then

worn ember
#

alternatively you could try to get your tablet hooked up and draw that way

waxen panther
#

its ok i have 3 paperohhs PepeLa

worn ember
#

i have a low sensitivity setting on my mouse for drawing lol

#

but tbh i hardly ever draw

#

i just make shit like this lul

quasi valley
#

couldnt you just align it better smolHands

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it hurts looking at it

worn ember
#

no

meager tusk
#

Ok

worn ember
#

Couldn't you just stop being upside down

quasi valley
#

wtf upsidedownist

worn ember
#

ye

left swift
#

Wtf ded

meager tusk
#

wannabe dinnerbone

left swift
#

Rude

meager tusk
#

๐Ÿšถโ€โ™‚๏ธ

worn ember
#

wtf is a dinner bone anyway

meager tusk
#

Good question

left swift
#

Some new genz song

upbeat falconBOT
worn ember
#

ok that song is too cringe

#

i cant

novel horizon
cunning raft
#

uhh as we approach 1.17 where we will probably be streaming dev

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probably not

#

after we update, maybe

vernal moth
#

It's gonna be used again for 1.17

#

When we lock the main channel

#

And only move ppl in manually

cunning raft
#

We livestream updating to 1.17

left swift
#

What's 1.17

cunning raft
#

what do you not understand

vernal moth
#

The paper 1.17 update event is a week long live stream, 24/7

cunning raft
#

we use typing-sounds and don't want people bombing the voice call

left swift
#

Maybe today will be the day

vernal moth
#

Hopefully we can get it done in a week, lmao

#

Ppl join, talk, drink, look at the code, make sure nothing breaks, suggest changes etc

#

It's generally just a fun time

worn ember
#

mini mostly just drinks

cunning raft
#

lmfao

left swift
#

I remember last time mini ran away and started walking around in a park taking pictures

cunning raft
#

post balmers peak

left swift
#

Who

worn ember
#

how tf do you even get banned there

#

its barely even moderated

ashen cliff
#

Magic.

vernal moth
#

You can mass ping md5 and not get banned, lmfao

worn ember
#

you gotta actively try to get banned

vernal moth
worn ember
#

2% error rate

#

ig thats pretty good

cunning raft
#

hope you find them

vernal moth
#

Less than 2% ded, I did way more than 200 patches

vestal jasper
#

@potent fossil

potent fossil
vestal jasper
#

Hi

restive saffron
waxen panther
#

so uh, whens that starting mini

warm anchor
#

today. paper hardfork l;ets go

waxen panther
#

fact!

#

i think with a few thousand euros of beer we could have a paper snapshot released within the day

warm anchor
#

I will chip in $100 let's crowd fund this shit

left swift
#

What's the conversion for minecraft diamonds to euro

warm anchor
#

depends are those 2b2t diamond or...? krappa

spiral robin
#

Hi

left swift
#

2b2t diamond NFT

#

Hi aber

waxen panther
#

Hi

cedar spade
#

ballmer peak integer overflow

worn ember
granite slate
#

guys, quick question. If a load balancer acts like a proxy it means that all the traffic pass through it. Why doesn't it became itself a bottleneck?

golden gust
#

because load balances aren't dealing with business logic

#

you'll have to scale those up at a point too

wraith trail
#

Why doesn't it became itself a bottleneck?
it always will at some point, it's not like this can never happen but ^^

worn ember
#

it just redirects traffic, it doesnt do anything else

granite slate
#

Mh.

#

Ok, thanks.

#

?

waxen panther
#

?

granite slate
golden gust
#

usb sniffer

#

USBPcap

granite slate
#

I mean, usb can transfer packets?

golden gust
#

it's for the USB protocol

rancid latch
#

just sniffs everything sent over a usb connection

granite slate
#

ahn, ok.

#

Is it possible tell minecraft client to sends the future packets to another ip?

minor badge
#

no

granite slate
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

untold copper
#
if (num/2===0){
       console.log("even")
   }
#

is this possible? like, will this work?

cunning raft
#

.try

limber knotBOT
untold copper
#

because in python it usually does

minor badge
#

only if num is 2

untold copper
#

So can you like, do operations in if brackets?

minor badge
#

of course?

waxen panther
#

%

minor badge
#
if (1+1) {
  console.log("yes, that is truthy");
}```
wraith trail
#

thats just checking if the number is two, you want ^^

#

oh what broccolai said

untold copper
#

oh

#

check the remainder

limber knotBOT
#

meh, gotta love when rest APIs don't do what they claim to do -.-

untold copper
#

im dum lol

#

thank u brocc :3

granite slate
#

How is it possible that the maximum ping from a US server took 33ms. I'm pinging it from italy.

magic river
#

.wa speed of light rome to new york

limber knotBOT
magic river
#

bleh, guess I didn't word that well

novel horizon
#

.wa from rome to new york in speed of light

limber knotBOT
granite slate
#

Are you telling me that there is a fiber optic table from the us to italy?

#

Or is there any other way?

novel horizon
#

it's just as it is, 33 ms it not that bad

waxen panther
#

33ms is pretty damn good lol

novel horizon
#

to US yeah

granite slate
#

I'm wondering because it is that low.

wraith trail
#

how do you know you're connecting to a server in the US?

novel horizon
#

yeah, i doubt that actually

wraith trail
#

sounds like a dumb question but its an actual one

novel horizon
#

if you are in italy to us 33 ms is too good lol

granite slate
#

I've sniffed the packet and looked up the address

wraith trail
#

I should rephrase, how have you determined the location of the server you are connecting to?

granite slate
novel horizon
#

it highly depends on the servers though, if you find a good one, can be doable

granite slate
#

the ip is the server that I'm connecting to

wraith trail
#

no, that does not mean you're connecting to a server in the us

granite slate
#

really?

novel horizon
#

.wa from czech republic to united states of america in speed of light

wraith trail
#

and that specifically you are 100% not

limber knotBOT
granite slate
#

Can you explain me why?

novel horizon
#

i tried speedtest and selected new york ๐Ÿค”

wraith trail
#

iirc cloudflare even has their own article on this stuff

novel horizon
#

it highly depends on the servers though, some has much higher ping

#

but hey its not like im connecting to usa ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

magic river
#

Benchmark of dolphin emulator

novel horizon
#

m1 looks nice, but apple not

#

but in comparison on their old macbooks thats good

magic river
#

It's only 65% the perf of the 9900K on this benchmark, although some of that is going to be because the JIT is immature

novel horizon
#

except the people who bought the macbook just before the update :/

#

"fps per watt" lol

#

what kind of test is that

#

comparing m1 cpu with desktop cpu that draws like 150+ W

magic river
#

It says "efficiency test" at the top

novel horizon
#

yeah

minor badge
novel horizon
#

really ๐Ÿค” what a weird name, but i guess that's why that low ping

#

it says efficiency, yeah, but fps per watt

minor badge
magic river
#

fps per watt is how you measure efficiency for video games

novel horizon
#

it doesn't make sense though

magic river
#

If you were benchmarking specint instead you'd measure points per watt

granite slate
magic river
#

Oh cloudflare's whole thing is not sending you to the US for that

granite slate
magic river
#

No, multiple servers on multiple routes have the same IP

granite slate
#

oh..

magic river
#

Your ISP is picking which server to send you to based on their routing rules

#

Well, actually, I think cloudflare might be picking which route(s) to announce to your ISP based on their routing rules but these have a way of leaking out into the general internet so they probably make sense all together too

granite slate
#

..Mh. If I would have a service like that how many money will it costs?

magic river
#

You want your own AS number so you can do your own routing?

granite slate
#

I need to explain this service in details for a school project

magic river
#

Oh, I see, I'm doing homework ๐Ÿ˜›

#

Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) is a standardized exterior gateway protocol designed to exchange routing and reachability information among autonomous systems (AS) on the Internet. BGP is classified as a path-vector routing protocol, and it makes routing decisions based on paths, network policies, or rule-sets configured by a network administrator...

#

That's the system the internet runs on and where anycast happens

granite slate
#

Ok. Thanks, I will read it.

magic river
ashen cliff
#

Daily reminder: Networking is hell.

#

Also allowing Python scripts on networking gear was a huge mistake.

wispy blade
#

python scripts for anything other than simulations kekw

ashen cliff
#

The horrors of touching some random no name switch... just Linux with Python.

#

Everything done with Python and even that badly.

wispy blade
#

the only reason i don't like python is because there's no switch statements

warm anchor
ashen cliff
#

Bro!

#

Seeing a CISCO from 2001 at an ISP is always epic.

warm anchor
ashen cliff
#

Anyway looks like I have to move to 2.6.0 Dev to fix my issue. kekwhyper

#

It could always be more on fire.

warm anchor
#

At least there is a fix ๐Ÿ‘

ashen cliff
#

Nyeah.

frank otter
#

hmm yes discord is broken

#

it thinks images are videos and thus they never load

ashen cliff
#

Mobile? kekwhyper

frank otter
ashen cliff
#

Mobile moment.

frank otter
granite slate
#

How is it possible that hypixel has 20ms of latency?

frank otter
#

wait what's it actually called

#

discord beta

granite slate
#

Is it possible that they have a special contract with cloudflare that redirect the users to their nearest server?

wispy blade
#

cloudflare should automatically do that

#

right

granite slate
#

mh... So I'm fucked up.

novel horizon
#

not only i dont like hypixel, but whatever, i just tried to see for fun

magic river
#

hypixel uses cloudflare's beta TCP pipe thing?

#

Oh I guess it isn't a beta anymore

#

Anyway, that would only get you to the closest lobby unless they also have per-lobby minigame servers

#

For the actual games (or if you joined a lobby with a friend on another continent, assuming that's a thing) you'd still have higher latency

#

Or more likely it just gets you a random lobby and they're just making use of cloudflare's routing instead of relying on the open internet

waxen panther
#

bababooyee

magic river
prime hawk
#

sorry

limber knotBOT
#

the answer is "yes, if configured properly"

spiral robin
unkempt drift
#

the IJ git integeration does look kinda pretty

ashen cliff
granite slate
#

never

ashen cliff
#

Have fun.

granite slate
#

?

#

wdym

vernal moth
#

Watching army of the dead rn, cause ppl did hype it like crazy, 30 minutes in an still exposition, it's so fucking booooooring

granite slate
#

@magic river you helped me a lot, thank you โค๏ธ

vernal moth
#

Oh god they have a german A list actor

#

That has a worse accent than I

#

Still exposition btw

#

I wonder if they gonna start their trip before I fall asleep

#

Can we ban movies that take 2:30:00?

golden gust
#

Like, long movies only work if it's super engaging

#

and they hardly manage to make a 1:30 movie engaging these days

#

Like, is there an MCU movie which doesn't end up with like a 20-30 minute dialogue in some random place in which the actors are basically all standing around basically scratching their nads over some stupid convo?

vernal moth
#

Oh god

#

Oh my fucking god

#

I think i am done with this

#

Asian guy explains plan, ends with "easy peasy japanisi", German guys is like, you can't say that anymore, it's "easy peasy lemons squeezy now", they discuss and Asian guy ends with, I think i can say that cause am japanese

#

If that's the level we on about for jokes now, I don't wanna know what comes next

void void
#

would putting each world and maybe heavy plugins like viaversion on different threads help the performance? is it worth it?

golden gust
#

Well, if your bottleneck is a single thread, yea, ofc

#

is it worth it? You're gonna break practically every plugin in existence

#

Sooo...

frank otter
#

is paper not multithreaded?

#

oh wait

vernal moth
#

Paper is very multithreaded

#

Much wow

#

Such threads

void void
#

i dont know if i reached the limit

#

hardware limit not yet because i can get better hardware but im still waiting for it

#

so im looking into software options

vernal moth
#

Wooo i think the exposition is over

granite slate
mental meadow
#

sooo if I want to get into 3d modeling what is a good program to start with?

#

i only know fusion 360

formal turret
#

when I wanted to do some 3d modeling I learned blender and then followed blenderguru on youtube to learn the controls

vernal moth
#

Bender for 3d stuff

#

But likey for printing that's not optimal

mental meadow
#

welp I found the free fusion 360 so i'll try that out first

vernal moth
#

Cause no way to configure tool paths I think

mental meadow
#

they really hide it on their homepage

olive marlin
#

What kind of 3d modeling you are looking to do? 3d printing (and then technical vs pretty) or just general 3d modeling?

#

Fusion 360 was the best for 3d printing models like 4-5 years ago when I used it. And definitely recommend for beginners, although not everything can be constraint properly.

#

Otherwise, blender is epic.

wispy blade
#

blender is super swag

#

been using it for over 5 years, no complaints

mighty storm
#

let's not

fierce finch
#

lol

mighty storm
#

rory!

fierce finch
#

Rory!

vernal moth
#

Oh there seem to be some maincord drama

#

Two old mods left

#

I wonder what all that is about

mighty storm
#

ohh it's a mess

vernal moth
#

Can you give a tldr somewhere?

#

Am not active in that discord, it's way too noisy

mighty storm
#

YEah I got ya

twin lagoon
#

who the fuck decided it was a good idea to make this persistent in devtools

vernal moth
#

Because else it would be annoying?

#

All options in dev tools are persistent

#

It only applies if dev tools are open tho

proud lance
#

Can someone build me an aimbot to solve captchas, thanks

twin lagoon
#

i had an application earlier today that sent out a fuckton of requests to cloudflare because with caching disabled it does weird stuff

#

devtools wasn't open

#

i've disabled the caching option after accidentally finding out about it while lurking in devtools and it seems fine now

novel horizon
#

that captcha is way too easy, but as a joke, whatever

#

first thing why and second thing yes

#

I use authme and in authme there's command that lets you login someone without typing any paswords, /authme forcelogin

cosmic raft
#

:p

mighty storm
#

chrom_ium_

#

like 2 browsers arent chromium anymore

vernal moth
#

Edge is where it's at Bois!

novel horizon
#

i use vivaldi ๐Ÿ‘€

tropic flame
#

does anyone get this when trying to crop a new avatar on mobile?

cosmic raft
#

firefox

cunning raft
#

chrome

#

fuc the h8ters

waxen panther
#

chromium ๐Ÿ˜

cunning raft
#

@waxen panther voidlinux man

vernal moth
#

So? Microsofts changes are actually pretty nice and chromium is the only browser engine worth using

waxen panther
#

Hi there

#

@cunning raft &?

cunning raft
#

@waxen panther ๐Ÿ™„

tropic flame
tropic flame
#

... oops i forgot to unping

#

sorry about that

tropic flame
vernal moth
#

I don't even test for Firefox anymore cause even in germany, where Firefox traditionally had high usage, ppl gave up on it

merry talon
#

maybe because it sucks

#

runs

worn ember
#

No u.

potent fossil
#

Bleh, if I was gonna do an upgrade of my PC parts it would be a mobo replacement at minimum + cpu + gpu, at that point i may as well just build an entire new rig

#

Not my jam atm maybe l8r

untold copper
#

firefox poggers

limpid comet
#

i have ublock origin on firefox android

#

is it just specifically adguard that's not allowed?

formal turret
#

Can't really remember a time where I haven't used Firefox as my daily browser

wispy blade
#

i've used both for a couple of years and i can say i hate them both equally

cosmic raft
#

also

#

to the people who still wonder why we removed jenkins access a few months ago

#

as of today we no longer use jenkins to build paper

wispy blade
#

:o

olive marlin
#

For me, containers are one of the main things that keep me with FF.
Also it supports extensions on mobile, while chrome doesn't.
I don't like some things it does, but it's far outweighed by the things I like.

#

I'm gonna argue that all web browsers suck, and you just choose one that sucks less for you.

#

runs

wispy blade
#

^

unkempt drift
#

Internet explorer is the way to go

#

Need to start a petition so Microsoft wonโ€™t drop support for it

#

Show them millions of people rely of IE everyday

wispy blade
#

probably old people who don't want to switch :/

coarse lily
cosmic raft
#

more like due to banks being stupid and having shit websites

coarse lily
#

I basically juggle three browsers. But yeah they all kinda suck in various ways.

cosmic raft
#

a family member used IE in 2020 still because of some finance related site

coarse lily
#

I have an XP VM because I have some software that still only runs on Windows XP

#

So yeah, I buy that kashike.

vernal moth
#

At work we just use Edge with enterprise mode for some hardcoded urls

#

Aka Edge will start IE inside of it, it's pretty cool

cosmic raft
#

If I were to use Chrom(ium|e) again

#

I would use Edge

coarse lily
#

What do you use? FF?

limpid comet
#

yea I use edge & firefox daily

#

more firefox

coarse lily
#

I like FF.

#

I didn't use it for a while because I thought Chrome was better.

#

But I'm back on the FF bandwagon.

#

Once upon a blue moon FF was the jam.

olive marlin
#

All http browsers suck. It was a mistake, we should go back to gopher.

coarse lily
#

Like early 2000s when it came out.

#

Haha

#

The browser idea is okay. What it was twisted and malformed into is not :)

wispy blade
#

abandon your current browser, use surf /s

cosmic raft
#

firefox since... 2019?

coarse lily
#

FF is nice.

wispy blade
#

i've used firefox since 2016-2017?

coarse lily
#

FF in like '02/'03 saved my butt a lot.

wispy blade
#

anybody remember torch browser lol

limpid comet
#

og opera was nice

coarse lily
wispy blade
#

i prefer 1760s opera Kappa

limpid comet
#

maybe not that old, we had it on our family computer when i was young

untold copper
#

ah, to be young...

#

oh wait

wispy blade
#

i forgot how much i hated configuring perms LOL

vernal moth
#

Twitter is fun

wispy blade
#

fucking destroyed jeez

ashen cliff
#

To be fair, he also influenced the stocked market.

#

So nothing is safe.

wispy blade
#

yup

#

$GME ๐Ÿš€

ashen cliff
#

Not even that.

#

Signal. kekwhyper

wispy blade
#

LOL

#

that's a spike if i've ever seen one

fair blade
#

So when using bStats, do I have to manually send the player amount etc. or is this done by creating the Metrics object and that's it?

vernal moth
#

Bstats does the default charts automatically

fair blade
vernal moth
#

paper discord

#

asking about spigots dum php api

golden gust
#

they replaced it with something else,think that there is something on their forums

vernal moth
#

Simple has gone thru pain and suffering

wispy blade
waxen panther
wispy blade
#

ok

midnight totem
#

hey why cant i talk in taco channel

waxen panther
#

what

midnight totem
#

this maybe

lean kiln
#

pipe

midnight totem
#

meant to put in one message

lean kiln
#

|

waxen panther
#

i havent memorised every character in existence sorry ๐Ÿ˜€

lean kiln
#

its on your keyboard

#

its not hard

waxen panther
#

not my keyboard ๐Ÿ˜Ž

left swift
#

Its name is candice

minor badge
#

that is indeed pipe before 1.14 or whenever they changed fonts

midnight totem
#

:((( i got anti tacoed

waxen panther
#

only taco supremacists can talk in the taco channel

midnight totem
#

walk of shame :((((

left swift
#

Tacos are gross dont worry about it

#

Who

#

Asked

waxen panther
#

mana is very nice

wispy blade
#

boolin

vestal jasper
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