general

[mental meadow]

my back hurts

general, more like #old people chat

[worn ember]

Cracking is illegal

[vernal bone]

Ask for permission before doing it

[potent fossil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/mbh8j6/true/

[wraith trail]

No it means grabbing some random thing from the internet and running it

[modest path]

your v1.8.8 cracked server exploded

bro michelle has hell in it?

dude that isn't okay

banned from minecraft

[untold copper]

bruh

[modest path]

it doesn't use cookies

[ashen cliff]

#memes is down the block.

[warm anchor]

This chat rn

[spiral robin]

wow

[mossy vessel]

#memes for good memes, 🚮 for everything else

[modest path]

Random Survey: Is there a point to open sourcing a plugin if you want it to be paid?

[visual egret]

Yes

[modest path]

I feel like people wouldn't buy the plugin since they can just compile it

[lean knot]

you underestimate the laziness of people

[modest path]

But on the other hand, open sourcing a plugin provides guarantees to the code quality

[golden gust]

majority of people in the community can't compile plugins

[modest path]

and i like flexing my code quality ;-;

[golden gust]

many will also be looking for support

[modest path]

oh yeah, support is something too

[lean knot]

open source with paid binaries is the way to go for premium plugins tbh

[modest path]

That way you can allow contributors too

[lean knot]

though imo premium plugins in general are just ehhh

why not just make it free

[unkempt drift]

Premium support is the way to go

[visual egret]

you also dont violate Bukkit's GPL licence

[modest path]

I think premium - with support and precompiled is the only thing you're paying for

[grand pewter]

i dont see a problem with premium plugins, i just see a problem with attitude generally

[modest path]

the software is still provided and you can even contribute

yeah i don't like the attitude in the spigot premium / mc market (?) community

[grand pewter]

that said, i don't have any premium plugins myself

[modest path]

theyre really hostile

[mossy vessel]

Premium oss plugins can work out well, see mcmmo, PlotSquared or a variety of others.

[minor badge]

hi pop!

[grand pewter]

i dont think open source hinders the ability to profit that much, because the people who will beat around the bush to compile it / pirate it anyway would not be paying in the first place

[modest path]

Oh yeah, if i was going to make a premium plugin i wouldn't want to have to deal with pirates

[mossy vessel]

If your intention is pirating, you wont bother with any premium/non premium w/e

[olive marlin]

I like if I can view the code (I glanced through each open source plugin I use). And love being able to just try the plugin and pay if I like it.

[mossy vessel]

Thus said, over the years I've seen a variety of free of charge plugins being uploaded to named sites

[modest path]

okay i think i've made my decision :) thanks for the responses lol

[lean knot]

i try to avoid closed source mods/plugins when i can, never know what might be in there (and if its obfuscated, instant nope)

[modest path]

like leak sites?

what's even the point of that, aren't they free?

[mossy vessel]

Not even necessarily

[olive marlin]

dfsek I believe the only closed source one I use is CoreProtect and I'm moving away from it in a few weeks, months top.

[mossy vessel]

If your project is released under oss and provides some kind of way to build, you are fine

[lean knot]

i switched to Prism a while ago

[olive marlin]

Yeah, that's my goal.

[mossy vessel]

(Unless you are using ant or leiningen you can trick a looot of people into the void ;p )

[modest path]

ooh, another random survey: where do you find contributors for projects?

[grand pewter]

if people like your project they will contribute

[modest path]

not like spigot plugins, just projects

[wild escarp]

only closed source/obf plugin i use is aac, and even then, i plan on making my own anticheat soon lol

[lean knot]

usually contributors find the project, not the other way around

[modest path]

that makes sense

[olive marlin]

Some places have spots where you can post short "ad" about your project and see if people are interested in contributing.

I believe Programmer's Hangout Discord has one too?

[modest path]

ooh i gotta check that out then

[olive marlin]

But obviously you need to have foundation done lol

[worn ember]

yeet the pom, opensource and cant compile

[modest path]

yep haha

[worn ember]

i doubt anyone does tho

[lean knot]

hm, tbh asking some random person who's never seen your project before to review a PR doesnt seem like the greatest idea

[modest path]

yeah maybe not haha

[grand pewter]

i mean it doesn't sound like a horrible idea if you're a beginner and you want the code style itself reviewed

[lean knot]

asking someone to tackle an issue is def better lol

[grand pewter]

but for reviewing logic, probably not

unless its something that they dont need to understand the entire project for

[lean knot]

yea, there are cases where it could work well

[modest path]

reviewing small prs shouldn't be too much of an issue?

[zealous wedge]

usually contributors happen by people who use your project finding things they want to add, and starting to help out that way

[grand pewter]

prob yeah but at that point does it even need a review

[lean knot]

if it requires understanding the project though, someone that has worked on it before reviewing stuff

[modest path]

the thing is: how do people start using your project if no one knows about it?

[olive marlin]

I always contribute just because I wanted to fix something or add some feature.

[warm anchor]

Word of mouth and if your project is fun or useful people will use

[modest path]

that makes sense

i see ded talking about his rtp plugin a lot hah

[worn ember]

its all a tactic

[mossy vessel]

He has nothing else to do in life

[modest path]

ok understandable

[worn ember]

what the fok

[warm anchor]

Ded pat me $1 a mention I will help you out bro

[wide chasm]

I've done the same thing before, when you see someone looking for something you have made, mention it without sounding too much like an ad

[warm anchor]

Savage but good

[worn ember]

i'll just get that dm spammer to do it

[modest path]

oh good idea

not the dm spammer*

[wide chasm]

Some places also have dedicated sections to share projects in

[worn ember]

bad advertising is still advertising, so everyone telling me my rtp plugin is shit is giving me free advertising

[grand pewter]

i think that works for smaller projects, when it gets bigger word of mouth is probably going to do more than you can yourself

[modest path]

i've tried posting in like a showcase channel but no one there seems to need a fucking testcontainer replacement

[worn ember]

actually having a useful project helps too

[modest path]

it's useful ;-;

[lean knot]

ye once your project reaches a certain size word of mouth basically does all you need

[worn ember]

im not saying it isn't

[grand pewter]

pls use my plugin its useful and has /heal /fly and /god

[warm anchor]

@worn ember do you want an anime girl icon as your rtp icon?

[modest path]

god tier plugin

[grand pewter]

lol theres so many essentials clones though

[worn ember]

i'm just saying if its something that people look for it has a higher chance to succeed

[modest path]

the thing is: there's already an existing thing out there but it's pretty awful

[grand pewter]

yeah if yours is night and day better and people learn about it they will use it

[worn ember]

so add that to your wordlist, (better than x) so when people look for x they might find related things to it aka your project

[modest path]

good idea :>

[worn ember]

or at least give them a reference

[waxen panther]

where is tickets chan wtf

[modest path]

free anime icons? hmm

[warm anchor]

Soon. Lax is working on this

[waxen panther]

😳

[warm anchor]

Pretty hot? Animated soon @waxen panther

[waxen panther]

very epic

martian man

[golden gust]

||brb, getting the r34 fan art ready||

[modest path]

hol up

[warm anchor]

It’s a Dota hero ask @worn ember

[worn ember]

TA?

[warm anchor]

Yes

Idk what project they are making though lol

[warm anchor]

There are a bunch already lol

[modest path]

hmm

[worn ember]

dota tutorial it looks like

[warm anchor]

We will see

Anime in 1 day btw

[spare venture]

yay ded fixed my queue plugin

[visual egret]

ok permission to do some testing with unreleased hacked client version 100101010010

[wide chasm]

He fixed something? Like, it actually works now? Impossible.

[warm anchor]

Once in a blue moon stef

[spare venture]

very well 😄

[worn ember]

only took 3-4 bruh moments

[warm anchor]

Wow look at party trying to give ded rep

[worn ember]

i'll be tiktok famous soon too

famous tiktok plugin dev

[warm anchor]

Wtf did you partner with tiktok realm with party

[worn ember]

no lol

im not touching tiktok with a 10ft pole

[visual egret]

ded did you know party's video

is like 200k views now

[worn ember]

china already gets my data through epic games

[visual egret]

just jailbreak and run some privacy tweaks or smthn

[worn ember]

lmao

[visual egret]

or dont even bother with that just use the website

[worn ember]

ive seen enough tiktoks to know i dont care about it

[visual egret]

you havent seen party's tiktok's

[worn ember]

lets keep it that way

[spare venture]

yeah lets stop talking about that oskar

[warm anchor]

Oskar you gonna make party blush

[visual egret]

smh not me creating a new email and social media accounts after seeing that amount of views

[worn ember]

dude i honestly dont know how to judge overwatch games where the enemy picks PA offlane and goes 1st item battlefury and gets reported for feeding

[visual egret]

sus

[worn ember]

like obviously its a grief pick, but its not intentional feeding smh

[worn ember]

lol

[spare venture]

lmfao

[visual egret]

party are you having performance issues on the queue server 👀 just asking

[spare venture]

@75

so, no.

[visual egret]

damn

[twin lagoon]

if you group everyone in the same chunks and don't abuse entities or anything on a lobby server

shit can hold 500 players on 1.16

[spare venture]

yup

we hit 212 and the tps was 20, don't have the mspt at the time tho

[twin lagoon]

bonuspoints if you just don't tick entities and rip the entity tracker out or something

[spare venture]

paul needs to get his discord unbanned

[warm anchor]

Wow party swimming in cash now with relaunch

[spare venture]

yeah... not really

i don't really sell anything

[visual egret]

is it profitable though?

[twin lagoon]

should've sold queue priority

[spare venture]

michael, we only just got our queue working

priority is next 😄

[warm anchor]

Just sell vip supporter rank and queue

[visual egret]

party cant even make correct queue message, let alone priority smh

[spare venture]

lemme remove ip

[worn ember]

[visual egret]

i think everyone knows the ip by now

[spare venture]

yeah but i should still not

[visual egret]

yeah ofc

[spare venture]

it's implemented, i just need to sell it 🙂

[visual egret]

you do payments via tebex right

[warm anchor]

Go one step further

Sell kick perm

[worn ember]

sell bypass for $100

[warm anchor]

Yes

[spare venture]

[visual egret]

sell /op for £2

then just send a fake op message

[worn ember]

sell perma bans for $10

[spare venture]

ill pay myself $10 to ban you ded

[worn ember]

[warm anchor]

Sell kick and anti kick (if someone kick the person with anti-kick the first person get kicked instead)

[spare venture]

It ain’t all about money

[visual egret]

[quasi valley]

it's all about those tiktok followers

[limber knot]

s/tiktok/onlyfans

Correction, <DiscordBot> <10knenytv> it's all about those onlyfans followers

[spare venture]

bingo

[mossy vessel]

Very right, simple

[modest path]

ill buy a ban when does it start?

[visual egret]

party sells onlyfans where they expose pictures of the server logs

[livid wren]

OnlyBans

[spare venture]

sounds bad

[visual egret]

subscribe to get banned; perfect for curing your minecraft addiction

[livid wren]

._.

[golden gust]

when I was running a server, I'd temp ban people who asked for it

[visual egret]

city got banned by request right

[golden gust]

it's crazy, but, like, I get procrasination

yea

[mossy vessel]

very relatable

[jade flax]

chests work great imo

[modest path]

i'd rather provide source haha

that way people can contribute or read the code with ease

i don't like obf at all

eh, i still don't like it

oh that's the worst haha

[spare venture]

yeah, I never transfer anything between players

Yup

[modest path]

lol imagine running a server

[magic river]

Stripping symbols is shitty but after enough time in mc-dev, gdb, and IDA I can adjust to it

[modest path]

i make cool plugins without a server

[olive marlin]

My server gives me a lot of use cases to write plugins and infrastructure tools.

I can't do stuff without a purpose.

So I'm fine loosing a few $ on my server to learn how to do stuff properly.

[mossy vessel]

That's why you publish on dbo and simply disable comments

[magic river]

If I ever ran a server again I'd probably use Sponge

[stiff yarrow]

[magic river]

I ended up writing basically every plugin for my last server except WE, WG, and LogBlock and the API for Sponge is just so much better

Sponge is for plugins

Forge is for mods

[olive marlin]

Well, sponge isn't keeping up with MC (yet).

[magic river]

The main reason people use Sponge is because you can use it with Forge

[modest path]

peper

funnee

[olive marlin]

And I'm kinda invested in the ecosystem of Paper already.

[stiff yarrow]

[magic river]

This is the problem with trying to make any improvements to Bukkit, people are "invested" in the current system 😛

[olive marlin]

I don't mind breakage.

I think breakage is necessary.

[stiff yarrow]

Break break break

[olive marlin]

Just i know the API and tools and plugins etc.

[magic river]

ItemMeta is the best part of Bukkit 😛

[olive marlin]

I'm looking forward to hard fork and eventually replacing old api with better one.

[magic river]

It's still not great, ended up being the wrong way to go, but at least it has a design and is well thought out and such

[golden gust]

biggest issue with the breakages is that we've gone through far too many years where breaking stuff is literally the worse

[olive marlin]

I'll also learn better about how to structure my code to be more resilient to such changes etc.

[golden gust]

to the point where instead of breaks which can be carried through a few versions, are generally hard-bruted on people some rando day when mojang changes stuff

[magic river]

The rest of Bukkit is mostly just a thin layer over how vanilla current works or did when the API was added and no thought was given to if that was the best design or not

[golden gust]

hey

let's make everything an enum

[modest path]

ok

do it

no balls

[magic river]

We kind of tried to do better when we ran the project but either didn't have enough time/motivation so nothing happened or gave up and just did what vanilla did but with better documentation

Or we tried to fit it in with the existing system which isn't great to begin with

[golden gust]

i think that the hindsight offers a lot to learn

especially being able to see where mojang is generally aiming over the years makes it easier to argue how certain aspects of stuff should be done

[zealous wedge]

the problem with bukkit was really that it was rushed out asap when hmod died

and sorta kept up that pace

things did slowly improve in the old days as people had time and motivation

[magic river]

Yeah, DB and Grum just kind of slammed some code together and sk slapped in whatever was missing that solved his "make worldedit work" problems the fastest 😛

[zealous wedge]

but that kinda stopped in about 2014 :p

lol

[golden gust]

because bukkit

[modest path]

bukkin't

[zealous wedge]

my hope is with following snapshots on sponge we can get make up lost ground, get a bit ahead, and be able to provide nice API for new features on day 1

[golden gust]

game used to return null, they got rid of that in favour of "null" itemstacks

(i.e. "air")

[zealous wedge]

where paper is still kinda stuck on having to update after releases

[golden gust]

Yea, that's our hopes for the hardfork too

[zealous wedge]

of course, we can't really spend too much time looking ahead without a stable release :p

[magic river]

It helps that the vanilla implementation is usually a little better too

[golden gust]

especially as we start looking towards replacing API

little

[zealous wedge]

yeah, it feels like vanilla implementation has improved hugely over the years in terms of extendability

[magic river]

Like, new things are more generic and plugable

[golden gust]

better, modern API

they have 1.16.5 running last I knew

[zealous wedge]

since it's of course the bukkit people, plus other modders thinking a little bit about content creators and modders

[golden gust]

Just, don't think that they're aiming to push stable builds until it's more... erm... stable...

the hope is to remove the needs for nms

[magic river]

The main advantage of Sponge is components

[golden gust]

We keep toying with the idea of mixins

[magic river]

I don't know what they call them these days but they're components, dang it 😛

[zealous wedge]

sponge lives in the dreams of the paper team lol

[golden gust]

Paper

[zealous wedge]

it's called data API

[golden gust]

it's like sponge

with less optional

runs

so does sponge

[zealous wedge]

we also have official names which makes diggint into server internals a bit less error-prone

[golden gust]

we share stuff

[waxen panther]

paper api 🥺

[magic river]

Sponge has better versions of some of those although I think they dropped them all for their 1.16 work so far

[golden gust]

easier when they're actively supporting the latest version and we're not dead, but, yea

[zealous wedge]

they were mostly moved into the "invalid" folder for review

[golden gust]

having to soorta support nms is a PITA

part of my hopes is that hard fork we can fuck around with internals more

better mappings and "it's impl detail" not being bound to tryna appease spigot plugin devs

NBT api is never gonna happen

no

[magic river]

Entity metadata API 😛

[golden gust]

We have 0 interest exposing such raw level detail

[magic river]

Do ItemStacks even work with NBT inside the server?

[zealous wedge]

yeah, nbt is a terrible api surface

[magic river]

I know entities don't

[golden gust]

yes

[zealous wedge]

itemstacks can do nbt

entities don't yeah

[golden gust]

items just throw the tag around

[zealous wedge]

unless you have specific support for a custom data compound

[golden gust]

entities don't retain a tag at all, same for TEs

[zealous wedge]

which i assume bukkit's PDC does

[golden gust]

yup

[magic river]

PDC?

[golden gust]

persistent data container

[magic river]

Oh, Aikar's thing

[golden gust]

mutable data is bad

it was basically redesigned upstream

[magic river]

That's just HashMap<UUID, NbtTagCompound> for entities and HashMap<Long, NbtTagCompound> for blocks, iirc

I forget, did Sponge end up with per-plugin files for persistent metadata, plugin tagged data inside the chunks that needs the plugin to roundtrip, or a free for all that bloats your saves like Skyrim mods?

[zealous wedge]

iirc it's plugin-tagged data on whatever data holder

[magic river]

I guess plugin-tagged but can roundtrip without the plugin being loaded at least allows for a cleanup tool

[rigid crescent]

minecraft pls fix thanks

[zealous wedge]

sqrt(a^2 + b^2 + c^2) is not a + b + c, go back to geometry

[rigid crescent]

it is

[potent fossil]

no it's not

[magic river]

Also you can't just do != 0, the whole point of the check is to avoid spamming actions for tiny movements

[next frost]

probably in some other space, yknow

[potent fossil]

you cannot split a radical across addition like that, that is illegal. you can only split a radical when multiplying

[zealous wedge]

thanks simple for remembering math words

[rigid crescent]

the server needs to have the same location as the client

[waxen panther]

what am i reading

[magic river]

No, it just needs to be close enough 😛

[rigid crescent]

why?

tell me why

there is no good reason for it

[mighty storm]

intellij wtf

this cant be good right

[modest path]

error

[magic river]

The alternative was like 100 packets at once from high DPI mice

[modest path]

error

how is it fucking up the local repo

[rigid crescent]

minecraft is a tick based game

[zealous wedge]

l o l

[next frost]

not sure if trolling at that point

[zealous wedge]

i thought you were roasted to a crisp, but you keep tossing yourself on the fire

[mighty storm]

it's updating local repo indexes so hopefully it fixes

[modest path]

mans literally trolling

[mighty storm]

"we do a little trolling"

also whats the context

[modest path]

this

[mighty storm]

local repo updated, all but one dependency isn't loading

[vernal moth]

Lmfao did they really let rms back into fsf?

What a shit fest

[twin lagoon]

fsf?

[zealous wedge]

rip to the FSF

[vernal moth]

Fuck the fsf i guess

[twin lagoon]

wtf is FSF

[zealous wedge]

free software foundation

[vernal moth]

Free software foundation michael

[zealous wedge]

the gnu people, who make the GPL

[twin lagoon]

o

[mighty storm]

Ayy I added something manually and it worked

[vernal moth]

And rms is richard Stallmann

Aka that pedophile asshole that was forced out of fsf 2? year ago

[golden gust]

||probs got tired of eating toe jam on his own||

[vernal moth]

Because he said consenting sex with minors is ok

[modest path]

uhh

[vernal moth]

And that the min age in the US is too high and shit like that

[modest path]

how'd he get back in

[vernal moth]

He's basically everything that is wrong with our industry

[zealous wedge]

because the board of the FSF is fine with him being a pedo i guess

[vernal moth]

Fucking toxic white males

Why the fuck do we choose assholes like that as representatives for our industry?

[modest path]

offtopic but wheres that list of terrible bukkit software?

[vernal moth]

You mean md5s github profile?

[modest path]

HAHAHAHA

no

the one with yatopia on it

[vernal moth]

Kenny has a shit list in his github

[main flicker]

Have a small problem when starting bungee with server on paper 1.16.5 it. Always say online mode is on disable it and it is disabled i ve done all things i could right linkings and all and it still doesnt if someone could send me some tutorial or send it there please 🙏🏿

[vernal moth]

But back to rms, ppl like him is the reason the FSF is such a joke

[golden gust]

there is the tutorial on the spigot forums

[vernal moth]

They promised to do better when the let go of rms

Guess they reconsidered

[golden gust]

if you're seeing the online mode message, you pointed it towards something which sent an auth request packet

[quasi valley]

added yatopia a second time today there

[golden gust]

aka: that server is in online mode or you have some plugin screwing with it

[main flicker]

Ou okay thanks

[patent moth]

I am trying to create a lite server-side python program to respond to Server List Pings from default MC clients.
So far, I haven't been able to get a normal MC client to accept my server's response JSON.

Here is my current attempt: https://github.com/the-lockedcraft-legacy-organization/PhantomServer

[golden gust]

Please don't crosspost channels

[magic river]

lol, python

[patent moth]

eh, sorry

[golden gust]

that network logic doesn't even look right

but, I mean, I don't use python, so 🤷‍♂️

[patent moth]

Yea, I'm new to servers

by some reason I decided to go with python O_O

[modest path]

if you're getting into development for bukkit try java :0

although from what that project is i don't think thats exactly what you're looking for

🟠

[worn ember]

🟧

[swift root]

🧡

[magic river]

[modest path]

🟠 sphere

[swift root]

[warm anchor]

🔶

[modest path]

:(

[astral knot]

🦧

[modest path]

>:(

[worn ember]

[swift root]

🌽

[warm anchor]

[spare venture]

incdenoorange

[patent moth]

Lol, I know java / is better at it, but we are trying to run the server on an absolute potato

[waxen panther]

[modest path]

you can run java on a potato

source: my vps

[patent moth]

8mb ram

[waxen panther]

good luck lmfao

[modest path]

where do you even get a 8mb vps

[patent moth]

XD

[worn ember]

you can even build java on a potato
Source: my vps

[modest path]

building java on a potato? insane

[patent moth]

micropython

[brave radish]

C

[patent moth]

yes, works as well

[modest path]

what's that distributed compiler called, the one you can install on multiple devices?

[brave radish]

just. C.

[worn ember]

they c me rolling they hatin

[modest path]

https://distcc.github.io/ found it

[spare venture]

ded is a potato

[waxen panther]

[warm anchor]

Hey man just because ded is dumb you don’t have to call him potato

[patent moth]

half a vcore

[modest path]

poor ded always the butt of your jokes ;-;

[patent moth]

50 $ a decade

[modest path]

where'd you get a vps like that?

i'll buy one

[potent fossil]

*assuming the host lasts a decade

that's kinda the point

[brave radish]

can native Kotlin run with 8mb lol

[waxen panther]

simple

[potent fossil]

i love people who find deals like "100 dollars for life" and they then get mad 5 yrs later when the company goes bankrupt and shut down

'ye, life means for the life of US, not u lmao fuk off'

[patent moth]

This company had a super cheap april fools variant.
Now, the cheapest they have is this.

https://hosting.gullo.me/order/config/index/nat-ipv4-vps-de/?group_id=5&pricing_id=55&coupon=LEB-NAT-128MB

[potent fossil]

hi brocco

u look lovely today

[waxen panther]

thank you simple you look lovely as always 🥺

[worn perch]

Specs?

[waxen panther]

click the link

[worn perch]

I did

It didn’t say it

[astral knot]

Was said earlier; 8 mb ram and half a vcore

[worn ember]

wow, and still faster than broccs brain

[swift root]

much

like uhm a billion times?

[worn perch]

8MB???

[quasi valley]

I love seeing people bully brocc when I come in

[worn ember]

[quasi valley]

makes me forget how much he bullied me >:(

[swift root]

i have done the math and it is 694206942069 times more fast than brocc's brain

[astral knot]

But yeah... seems like the only time those micro distros would come in handy

[warm anchor]

At least brocco has a brain unlike ded

[potent fossil]

imagine paying some random ass dude who owns a dedi $50 to allocate you a shell, 8mb of ram and half a vcore on his whack ass promise to provide it for a decade and his business is built on reselling ovh

(based on his network map)

and then, on top of that, imagine recommending it to others

[warm anchor]

Lol

[waxen panther]

🥺

[worn ember]

must be sad having lower mmr than someone without a brain

[waxen panther]

yellow has ascended above ur pathetic needs for mmr

ascended into a better game

[worn ember]

waifu vr simulator?

[potent fossil]

oh also eternity, i went into the mountain area and died like 15 times but i finally unlocked the statue of the seven there

[waxen panther]

waifu spending money simulator

[potent fossil]

but i still can't survive lmao :( but my quests are all in the mountain

[waxen panther]

the same game simple is talking about!

[warm anchor]

I am getting a VR room done this summer

[potent fossil]

who's spending money in there?

what

[modest path]

🟠

[potent fossil]

genshin is free

[waxen panther]

yeah but pay to have fun

[potent fossil]

huh

i havent paid a dime, what are you talking about

[magic river]

It's a gacha game

[potent fossil]

its a free game

[waxen panther]

the amount of money i've seen people spend on genshin in eternitys server is SICKENING

[modest path]

genshin impact

[waxen panther]

yeah but you've just started

wait until you a month deep

[magic river]

High level play requires a lot of money

[modest path]

why would you play that

[potent fossil]

"requires"

in what way?

[modest path]

what makes it fun

[magic river]

To get the characters good enough to win

[potent fossil]

I've found the story to be quite fun, there's a shitload of lore. The voice acting is on point. All the weapons can be boosted quite high without paying for shit. You can buy like, cosmetic shit? If that's what you're talking about. But it's not p2w

Have any of you even played it or you just shitting on it out of nowhere

[worn perch]

I played it

[magic river]

It's literally a gacha game

[waxen panther]

have you not gotten to the gatcha aspect yet or something

[worn perch]

I just wish it was more multiplayer

[magic river]

You get girls out of boxes

[potent fossil]

There is a gacha component, that's not the entire game you idiots

[worn perch]

not just campaign or coop

[waxen panther]

high tier item / heros are gotten through the gacha

i know its not the entire game but its a huge part of it when you're past early game

[potent fossil]

Yeah but you don't need those to win, is this a joke?

[fervent peak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftServer/comments/mbp6f0/custom_time_plugin_sleeping_not_working/ can someone help with this

[worn perch]

I got lucky and got the red haired big sworded fire guy first time I played

[waxen panther]

Well no you dont need it, it's 100 hours of grinding with bad people vs 10 hours of grinding with the best people

[worn perch]

Eh no

[magic river]

I suppose if you're really good at the game and put in a lot of time you can make do without

[waxen panther]

so much time

[potent fossil]

what the heck lmao, where does this come from at all. it's a fun free game to play and absolutely nothing in it requires you to pay. but if it's not your cup of tea, then that's fine. no need to shit on it though

pay*

[waxen panther]

im not shitting on it, it's a great game but it's still a gacha game

i play other gacha games, its just how it be

[potent fossil]

there is a gacha component, it is a much larger game than that

that is a ridiculous argument

[warm anchor]

Guys make love not fight

[livid wren]

guys make love?

[waxen panther]

love ? 😳

[modest path]

what's wrong with that?

[brave radish]

gotta ask dev if you can

[potent fossil]

so, i mean, people buying primogems is totally on them which is what im reading that people buy. however, you get a superfluous amount of those for free by just doing the quests

lol

[waxen panther]

Yeah it has the same aspect as most gachas where you can play a lot or pay, it's not a bad thing. I've spent hundreds of dollars on some gatchas

Genshin feels less so because it has such a good story but at its core it's still a gacha and they advertise themselves as such

isnt it like 6 dupes to fully unlock a character?

[potent fossil]

Who opens a game and says "huh, fuck this shit, dont care about the story, dont actually want to play, just want to skip everything and have big sword haha have my money"

that's the kind of player you're describing

like, who?

what

[waxen panther]

not really, you can enjoy the story and still buy things lol

[potent fossil]

you have to play the entire story no matter what

where you pay or don't, you still have to play the story

so it's a normal ass game with in game purchases, has a single gacha component

apparently that makes it "a gacha game"

but ok

to me a gacha game is one where you open it and it's in your face saying HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY did you want to OPEN THIS CHEST? for 400 gems? THAT YOU CAN BUY FOR $5?

genshin literally never does that

[spare venture]

people here who have shit on my server in the past

[potent fossil]

it's kinda wild

they look at wikipedia and see that the last part of the sentence says gacha and they go "oh my god it's a gacha game, it's entirely a gacha. that's it." and then shit on it

[spare venture]

simple loves genchin 😄

[potent fossil]

its fun ok, and i've spent a sum total of $0.00

[spare venture]

some would say he's a s*mp

[warm anchor]

Keep it that way simple lol

Game is really good

[potent fossil]

like if i had actually been pestered to pay any amount, i would not be arguing about this

but it has never pestered me

i've seen the offer by clicking through menus, but that's it.

[warm anchor]

Genshin is one of the most successful game of its kinda in recent history for a reason. It does offer a lot for free to play

[magic river]

I played it some then I watched a stream to see how the endgame was and they were just spending money

Then I went to a few others and they were all just spending money

[potent fossil]

as far as i know, there is nothing in the game that you can't do without paying

for me, when all the quests are done im done. im not sticking around for no reason to spend money for what? to do a dungeon that you got to do for free during the story???

[magic river]

The subreddit was all about rare finds in the lootboxes

[potent fossil]

i mean, those people do that because those people do that. that does not mean that's what the game is. you get to experience the entire game for free. if you want to stay after the story and drop your entire life savings on useless shit, that's on you not them

[warm anchor]

That’s the issue though YT video wants click and nothing gets you click than click bait like “omg I spent $5000 and got this and that” @magic river

That’s why it’s majority junk video

[magic river]

Nah, this was some of the streamers I normally watch but playing that game

[warm anchor]

Channel like this one is like the ONLY good one I watched https://youtube.com/c/JinJinxandTuna

I really like the math stuff they do so 🤷‍♂️

[potent fossil]

ima go do physics, but it's quite the free game. never been pestered to pay. you can pay, but you never have to and are never forced to for any content. but again, if its not your cuppa tea then oh well

[magic river]

iirc when I stumbled my way through the UI (controls were a bit shit on PC) I ended up in a store selling crafting resources

If the game cost $20-40 and didn't have lootboxes in it (and wasn't online) I'd be down

"cosmetic only" lootboxes are also predatory as shit but I've given up on fighting against those, I just try to ignore them

When they're selling anything for the game they have an incentive to make the game hard/grindy enough to make you want to buy those things

[potent fossil]

.........the game costs $0.00

it is a free download

[magic river]

Which is the problem

[potent fossil]

whatthefuck.jpg

whatever lmao

[void void]

ughhhh when 1.17?

[magic river]

Even if you can ignore the lootboxes they're exploitative and I don't want to support that

[spare venture]

i mean simple people blindly hate a lot of minecraft servers too

you can join their server for free, but they make money off of cosmetics/p2w/lootboxes

[potent fossil]

yeah, im not taking this seriously at all. it's hate for the sake of hate

[modest path]

what?

[magic river]

And games with non-cosmetic lootboxes are usually a real ballache once you get past the intro

[void void]

WHEN 1.17

[modest path]

why are you asking here?

[potent fossil]

is this a joke?

[modest path]

this isn't mojang

[potent fossil]

kbo is not even new to this server, tf

are they

[void void]

=p

[potent fossil]

just trollin, k frik off

[spare venture]

people forget you're providing a free service in minecraft servers a lot

[ashen cliff]

We should just consider every question about 1.17 as a joke, till it actually drops.

[spare venture]

and then get mad when you monetize it.. like ???

isn't that what video games do

[potent fossil]

"i cannot believe this game is free and you have the audacity to offer optional monetization"

"trash game 0/10 never play. can't believe the audacity."

[magic river]

I would rather just pay money for the game

You usually get a better game that way

[potent fossil]

it's a fine game as it is

[spare venture]

you'd get a better mc server too 😉

[magic river]

Lootboxes are extra vile

[potent fossil]

lmao

[spare venture]

mine's quickly becoming pay to play in the form of a queue

[potent fossil]

tunnel vision argument, alright, well have fun! actually gonna ghost this chat now

[brave radish]

hm was thinking of joining; nvm lol

[spare venture]

fine by me

less people in my queue that way

[brave radish]

no I'm not objecting you need to make money I just also don't have any to give you lol

[spare venture]

oh i don't even sell queue priority yet

but it's still a 70 man queue

it took way too long to get the dang queue working in the first place

[vernal moth]

And this is why it's called netflix and chill

Not disney+ and chill

Are the fuck are you supposed to "chill" like this?!

[ashen cliff]

Update WebView.

[visual egret]

Mojang should release 1.17 before august right?

[waxen panther]

let me dm notch now oskar

one moment

[visual egret]

._.

[vernal moth]

That's my TV tho...

[livid wren]

Does Notch even work at Mojang anymore

[vernal moth]

Also pretty sure that error message is remote?

[vernal moth]

No?

That's the joke

[livid wren]

idk, I couldn't remember ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[waxen panther]

lol

[visual egret]

just in general when do you guys think they are gonna release it

[vernal moth]

He stopped having anything to do with the game in like 2014?

[visual egret]

i swear he was banned from minecon

[vernal moth]

Sadly am not allowed to guess :/

[waxen panther]

i have no nda emotes

[olive marlin]

Only one I could find

[vernal moth]

Dw, i don't know the date either

[magic river]

September 2014

[zealous wedge]

it's a bit far out for mojang to even be setting a date -- i'm sure they have a rough internal goal, but they never really announce a hard date until a couple weeks out

[twin lagoon]

[waxen panther]

me when michael

[olive marlin]

Michale

[modest path]

part of the reason i don't like stuff like cancel culture

[potent fossil]

yeah, that's exactly what it was

they all started retweeting screenshots like mad and dude got death threats and all kinds of shit, like yeah. smfh

[modest path]

i mean whatever happened was probably terrible but suicide is also fucking awful

like does that really justify it?

[potent fossil]

i mean he did need to be investigated, but the situation absolutely did not require what they did

but oh well, it's done. sad stuff.

[brave radish]

Discord so dumb

putting the unread line above a message I reacted to

[modest path]

i feel like returning to 🟠

probably by the end of the day once i finish pr i will become a 🟠

[spare venture]

Did they say summer 2021?

[limber knot]

rip discord

[cunning raft]

e

is it broke?

[waxen panther]

fine for me

[limber knot]

very much so

[waxen panther]

for now at least

[spare venture]

😳

Same

Maybe Canadian discord bad

[limber knot]

oh seems to have come back

https://i.imgur.com/4gVwGOb.png

[cunning raft]

oh maybe new websocket connections?

nah i can load it on website too

[limber knot]

still broken here zml

strange

https://i.imgur.com/ANIfbJU.png

[cunning raft]

canary or stable or ptb

[limber knot]

canary

[cunning raft]

maybe a bad build

[limber knot]

i'm on canary as well

[cunning raft]

they pushed a massive fuckin commit couple hours ago

[limber knot]

no seems to be some sort of network issue

but that wouldn't break the updater i'd imagine?

[cunning raft]

no idea

[limber knot]

it's downloading now

[waxen panther]

i've had canary updates that broke updater before

[limber knot]

taking over 2 minutes for update 3 so far

nope

I don't risk my account like that

[cunning raft]

hmm

[waxen panther]

that’s it jroy I’ve got those message ids and now I’m getting you banned

[cunning raft]

🖕 🥦

[limber knot]

I blame simpleauthority

[obtuse jasper]

my discord: dmms#[e-mail]

[limber knot]

wat

for what

[potent fossil]

my discord is alive

[waxen panther]

my discord: broccolai

[limber knot]

my discord: zml

I blame simpleauthority!

ok

.kill simpleauthority

[obtuse jasper]

[e-mail] BOT

[limber knot]

feeds simpleauthority to an angry kraken.

[mossy vessel]

Does discord auto-update? I didn't close mine for a good week now lol

[potent fossil]

on startup it will

[limber knot]

can you even get a hotmail email still?

[potent fossil]

no

[obtuse jasper]

nah

[limber knot]

sad

[mossy vessel]

If I don't close it, it can't break

[obtuse jasper]

only og's

[cunning raft]

ok

[limber knot]

cannot load discord.com either

[waxen panther]

I don’t think a Hotmail email address is something to be proud of big man

[obtuse jasper]

ofc it is

msn

[cunning raft]

https://i.imgur.com/YMv9xEk.png

[wraith trail]

yeah you can https://i.imgur.com/nCHMT7s.png

[cunning raft]

can you ping discord.com kash

[obtuse jasper]

uuuh where do you livE?

[wraith trail]

normally canada but right now in the us, same for both

[modest path]

dikord

[obtuse jasper]

sulu is using cheats at microsoft

[worn pasture]

i've had mine for like 20 years and i'm very proud of it 😤

[potent fossil]

option is there https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/🦝🚓🎍🐍⚗️.png

[waxen panther]

😳

[cosmic raft]

there it comes

[livid wren]

oh my

[mossy vessel]

🦝🚓🎍🐍⚗

[cosmic raft]

ah yes

https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/🦝🚓🎍🐍⚗️.png

[obtuse jasper]

wowo

it was removed for a bit

🤔

[potent fossil]

LMAO kash

do you not see the emojis

[cosmic raft]

I do

but copying the url out of a browser gives that

which is why I think those links are the most stupid thing ever

[potent fossil]

[livid wren]

jealous

[potent fossil]

https://urjustjealousemojiurlsareverysexysoplease.get-some.help/4FL6Vcj.png

[worn ember]

ew

[potent fossil]

smh discord

https://urjustjealousemojiurlsareverysexysoplease.get-some.help/4FL6Vcj.png

[magic river]

https://urjustjealousemojiurlsareverysexysoplease.get-some.help/4FL6Vcj.png

[potent fossil]

o thx

[magic river]

Wrap a URL in <> to make Discord leave it alone

[potent fossil]

oh, nice trick

[worn ember]

uwu owo awa ewe

[potent fossil]

[modest path]

<google.com>

swaggy

[potent fossil]

i cant even find the setting to disable emoji urls

[mental meadow]

simple uwu

[potent fossil]

is this better https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Funny-Boar-e3.png

it does a random adjective, an animal, and two hex chars

[potent fossil]

uwu

[mental meadow]

i should set up sharex one day

but it looks so complicated

too many functions

[potent fossil]

it pretty much just works

[magic river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[cosmic raft]

yes

[potent fossil]

ok fine

[cosmic raft]

make it do song lyrics

[potent fossil]

i need a file of song lyrics then

[cosmic raft]

https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/never-gonna-let-you-down-r4.png

[magic river]

That's less entropy than the current system

[mental meadow]

I finally managed to set up a backup for my server 😄 and i think it works

[olive marlin]

Pull from your Synology NAS?

[mental meadow]

Yeah!

[olive marlin]

Or rather to.

Nice!

[mental meadow]

No, pull!

It was way easier than I thought

[olive marlin]

Pull to your NAS :)

[mental meadow]

The only thing I had to do via the root shell was create a ssh config file for the user and put the private key in there

[olive marlin]

What did you end up doing?

[mental meadow]

Turns out you can create tasks like in Windows from the web gui, and you can even make tasks to run custom scripts.

[topaz mortar]

Yeah, talking about a problem helps.

[mental meadow]

Honestly the worst part was having to use vi to create the ssh config because that was the only editor installed

[olive marlin]

Nice. I saw that my cheapo QNAP has HBS app which seems to support rsync.

[topaz mortar]

No VIM?

[mental meadow]

Yeah the backup tool also supports rsync but getting that to work was a PITA

[olive marlin]

I just hope it also can do post scripts so that it can push metrics to Prometheus.

So that I can get alerts.

[mental meadow]

So just putting that script in there was really nice

Otherwise I would have just manually created a cronjob for it, so not really too much of an issue anyway

I'm really happy that they give you root access

[olive marlin]

Yeah. I also went with x86 CPU and not arm, just in case I'll want to deploy containers on it.

[magic river]

M1 means a lot of ARM containers exist or will soon

[olive marlin]

But having everything in nice package, while being able to go root is nice.

Yes, but I bought it well before that.

[mental meadow]

For notifications I just added a discord webhook to the backup script and will add one to the script on the NAS soon

[olive marlin]

I don't want notifications when everything is good though.

[mental meadow]

I don't have monitoring for my server, so it's nice to have, especially since I added stuff like free disk space to it

[olive marlin]

I already have backup notifications on other systems. Would love to integrate it. But can't do that easily, since my nas is not exposed to internet.

So will need to add Prometheus push gateway and probably some auth.

I have some basic monitoring, it's nice.

[mental meadow]

setting up some monitoring is probably what I do next

[olive marlin]

I once found out my backup repo locked up and backups weren't done for almost a month >.>

[mental meadow]

every monitoring tool I ever had to use is waaaay to complicated for my purposes. tbh discord webhooks would probably more than enough for me
But then you have things like icinga and grafana and stuff and you just cry when you look at it

[magic river]

77% of all bugs found via fuzz testing are regressions

[olive marlin]

I wrote a simple wrapper which measures backup execution time, takes exit code and end date and then generates metrics for node exporter. It's really nice. I'm glad I moved away from my previous setup.

[magic river]

fuzz testing mostly finds the kinds of bugs you could exploit, it's looking for crashes and assert failures

[olive marlin]

Aurora Prometheus + grafana. You have nice ready dashboards for almost everything.

[mental meadow]

yeah but that honestly looks like too much work to set up 😄

[olive marlin]

You need to add alert manager for alerts and Discord proxy to translate the webhook data to discord.

It's really simple, especially since I stole like 99% of alerts from some website.

[mental meadow]

oh

well

wanna link that website

[olive marlin]

Almost no config from me.

One sec.

https://awesome-prometheus-alerts.grep.to/rules

Let me see if I have some config I can share with you.

Allmost all of the config I have is just stolen from docs/websites.

Definitely easier than nagios/icinga last i used.

[mental meadow]

yeah that looks way easier

now the only fuzzy stuff I have to deal with is all those packages on arch

and no docs, as usual

[olive marlin]

That's why I run everything in pre-built containers.

[formal turret]

yeet got another 2tb hdd, time to fill it with more programming shit

[olive marlin]

So that I don't have to worry about os compatibility and shit.

[potent fossil]

docker

[mental meadow]

for some reason I don't like docker, i have no idea why tho

[olive marlin]

Can just push the compose to by Debian server, docker-compose up and it works.

Use podman?

I like it because it makes many things easier and more reproducible.

But I know for some it's too complex.

You know, you could probably remove traefik annotations from the file i sent you, replace a few urls in Prometheus config and be good to go?

Anyway, 🛏️ time.

[mental meadow]

but wheres the fun in that

thanks tho 😄

[potent fossil]

traefik

[mental meadow]

really helpful so far

[olive marlin]

If you'll need help with something, feel free to DM or mention me.

[mental meadow]

thx

[unique snow]

Hope you're using crun 🙂

Also yea podman supports docker-compose

[mental meadow]

epic @olive marlin

[worn ember]

Smh my screen is falling off again

[livid wren]

hate when that happns

because that definitely happens

[brave radish]

in this clip, who hears "Ra vaal ee" and who hears "Ga vaal ee"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5wDpXPwSF4

[potent fossil]

it's clearly an R, anyone who hears a G has some sort of problem with their hearing or cognition

[livid wren]

if you start the video a little bit later, you can kind of hear it

[potent fossil]

why would people start it later just to justify hearing what could potentially be construed as a G

[livid wren]

well, I accidentally went to the next video

so I went back and it started a little later somehow

idk if maybe the video started before the audio or something

[brave radish]

like 1 in 5 times I hear a G

(playing in 0.25x speed to give the "G" argument some merit)

[potent fossil]

Why would slowing it down or otherwise distorting the audio be a valid argument for it being pronounced G instead of R when playing at normal speed clearly is an R

[brave radish]

no just bc some people hear a G at 1x and I can kinda hear it at 0.25x

[potent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/ralphwiggum-thesimpsons-dumb-learning-gif-12932060

[cunning raft]

you only hear a G due to the narrator's accent

[potent fossil]

i maintain ppl are just dumb

ive been playing it over and over trying to hear any semblance of G and can't

[mental meadow]

i think I managed it, just gotta get discord notifications working

[short yarrow]

So I was wondering why libraries have a jar without dependencies. If I include a dependency using maven, for example JDA. It uses JDA without dependencies. So when I call something from JDA and JDA has to call something from another library (For example calling something from OkHttp). Where does it get the library from since it isn't included in JDA?

[zealous wedge]

maven resolves transitive dependencies

[short yarrow]

I've heard that term before. Probably a good idea to look into it. So if my project and JDA depend on the same library but different version is that where I would get a version conflict then?

I never knew version conflict was a thing. I have version conflicts where I work because we have a custom build system, but I thought maven shade fixes that issue

[zealous wedge]

wat

maven's dependency resolution is designed so you only have one copy of each dependency on your classpath

which is why no project includes dependencies in its jar

maven shade should only really be used for end-user distribution of libraries

[short yarrow]

I see. So if you can only have one copy of each dependency on your classpath. That means if JDA and my project both use OkHttp but different versions I would have to specify which version should be used?

[zealous wedge]

maven will pick a version for you -- generally the newest

[short yarrow]

Oh okay

[waxen panther]

papa maven knows best

[short yarrow]

Wow. Everything I thought I knew about dependencies is wrong...

I thought the engineers who designed like our dependency management system were crazy

since we have version conflicts and we have to resolve them manually

Well I learned something pretty useful

[pastel pivot]

does anyone know the correct antonym of "algebraic computations" or "can be calculated algebraically".
I mean computations without variables or to calculate something with numbers only.
E.g. "The matrix only contains numbers, thus the inverse matrix can be calculated ___."
I think I'm not looking for "numerically" because that implies approximations and that's not what I want to say here. Thanks.

[magic river]

Maven is also more than happy to pick a version that breaks your code

Papa Maven drinks too much

[zealous wedge]

this is why any mature library does its absolute best to avoid breaking changes

since any api breaks influence the entire dependency graph

[short yarrow]

I have to choose a version manually and I usually just pick the latest version. I keep thinking to myself, shouldn't something be breaking if the newer version changes something?

Things make more sense now. I was building something at work and realized the jar is really small and I was thinking where are the dependencies

So what exactly is maven shade used for then? Is it only meant for people who don't use build tools and need to manually imports dependencies and need an uber jar?

[potent fossil]

arithmetically

[pastel pivot]

thanks!

[potent fossil]

sure

[short yarrow]

So if I'm using maven and a library I'm using for whatever reason they have a jar that includes all their dependencies in it. One dependency that's included in their jar is guava (they did not relocate the classes in guava). If I add guava as a dependency to my project and compile a jar with all my dependencies. Would I get a classpath conflict when I try running my program?

[spare venture]

i'm surprised when someone is banned it doesn't remove their reactions

[true canyon]

Really? This is Discord.

[spare venture]

well

you know

is there any way to format the /minecraft:me format without getting gross?

[lean kiln]

i would guess changing translations

with resourcepack

[spare venture]

...really?

[lean kiln]

yes

I'll check if im right

[spare venture]

i'm looking through lang and don't see the commands section at all

or in chat.*

[zealous wedge]

emote probably

[lean kiln]

chat.type.emote

[spare venture]

yep

[lean kiln]

args are displayname and message

[spare venture]

that's kinda disgusting

[zealous wedge]

ok

[spare venture]

i guess I'll just add it in with a plugin

mmm opening a project in IJ you haven't worked on in a month... lovely

[potent fossil]

god i wish that were me.

im drowning in school shit atm

i s2g they've assigned more during covid than ever before

"they're already home they can handle it"

"what else they gotta do"

[spare venture]

they definitely did

[short yarrow]

Does anyone have a plugin where classes from libraries are relocated? Just curious how the final jar file looks

[lean kiln]

PureTickets by Puremin0rez

its on Spigot

</google:816176849147002923> term: PureTickets spigot

[upbeat falcon]

PureTickets - Ticket System with Discord ...

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/puretickets-ticket-system-with-discord-integration.71677/
This is the best ticket plugin out there, to date! I've used many ticket/reporting plugins from Spigot before, they've either lacked features, been waaaay to

Requested by jmp#3822 - result 1 of 8

[lean kiln]

theres like 10mb of deps shaded in there

[short yarrow]

Thanks!

[wraith trail]

why in the world does that grab an excerpt from a review half way down the page

[lean kiln]

this is my guess

google decided

[wraith trail]

yeah i'll never understand google

[livid wren]

lmao

[worn pasture]

because xenforo has terrible SEO

[wraith trail]

and yet for some reason google loves spigotmc

[worn pasture]

lol that's @viral hornet 's review

wtf is that weeb shit camm

[potent fossil]

do not bully him .

[worn pasture]

i will bulla camm all i want

[spiral robin]

turbo

[potent fossil]

.kill Turbo

[limber knot]

goes bowling with Turbo's bloody disembodied head.

[viral hornet]

Bully me daddy

It's my name is Japanese

Kamuu

@minor badge HEYYYYY FAT KAMMUUUUUU

[potent fossil]

[warm anchor]

[viral hornet]

[worn ember]

Only because you love it

[warm anchor]

we are inevitable

[worn ember]

No weebs

[warm anchor]

[worn ember]

😩 😩

[zealous wedge]

[spare venture]

[untold copper]

Imagine being a weeb™️

[spiral robin]

ok

[potent fossil]

so i dropped my psychology course today because fuck that mfer but now im stressed about physics

my life is just a neverending ball of anxiety

[zealous wedge]

[warm anchor]

You got this simple

[spiral robin]

[floral mesa]

This is why I didnt jump right into college, and to be honest, I think it was for the best.

way to stressful

[potent fossil]

most of my classes are not that bad at all

but this psych professor has something wrong with him

1 essay a week with 60 page chapters to read, and the book is dense as fuck. and the man does not reply to emails whatsoever

15 essays total

ridiculous class

[zealous wedge]

that class has about as many essays as i wrote in my entire degree

[potent fossil]

yeah, so far it's been the bulk of essays I've ever written so I'm glad I don't need to finish it off

[floral mesa]

oh I would hate that professor, wouldn't be surprised if the last thing the guy heard was me storming the fuck off due to shit teaching.

oh wait, its all fucking remote now.

I wouldnt mind learning, but, I value my sanity and my stress levels not peaking.

[potent fossil]

yea, i mean it was an online class so some amount of independence is expected but he needs to be responsive. had a question about a quiz and he didnt answer for 3 weeks

[floral mesa]

Its also why I value voctech schools more so than colleges.

[potent fossil]

now there's a chance he's a much better prof in person, so benefit of the doubt. but having switched my major from software engineering to computer science, i no longer need psych and so, im not putting myself through that

[floral mesa]

and why I think we need to yeet high school out the window

[potent fossil]

well, im assuming you're talking about the US, and if so, the entire education system needs to be fixed

[floral mesa]

yes, from bottom to college. I dont agree college should be free (#politics), but I do agree that our primary/secondary education needs to be overhauled.

[potent fossil]

less focus on grades more focus on aptitude and stop charging people for wanting to advance their education as it's literally just an investment in the future of the country -- treat your citizens right and they'll stop wanting to leave when they get their degree 🍵

im not in the mood for a political debate right now so ill leave it at that

[spare venture]

meh I wouldn't have my job if I didn't go to college

[potent fossil]

doesn't necessarily need to be free, but does absolutely not need to put you in years of debt

see: germany

[floral mesa]

which job?

[spare venture]

project engineer

[warm anchor]

party is professional tiktok activist

[potent fossil]

party is an onlyfans content engineer

[spare venture]

im a multifaceted person what can i say