advertising random paid plugins instead of open source ones 👀
#general
limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
+1 for serverstatistics
mossy vessel
I mean, it already uses grafana? What do you want more lol
olive garden
-1 for mcmarket
limber knotBOT
I personally just use Munin
limber knotBOT
probably vioated the premium guidelines 👀
olive garden
was it considered of too low quality?
twin lagoon
it lacked ingame features or something
mossy vessel
Probably spigot mods didn't know how to use grafana
spare venture
yeah it would be a bad spigot plugin
limber knotBOT
nah, guidelines clearly state that stuff needs to be a plugin (as in include ingame/console functionality)
spare venture
people there are too dum to set up grafana
twin lagoon
yeah
spare venture
or a db
fallen oracle
Plan works decently if you have smaller sized networks. But, you can also disable some of the stuff it tracks if you just want specific things.
mossy vessel
helo I have muh metrics on ma maps what do you want!!
limber knotBOT
that would be fine ;)
mossy vessel
But yeah, that is over the avg users iq
limber knotBOT
the main issue is that the line between plugin and simple program loaded as a plugin needs to be drawn somewhere :S
(at least as long as the rules/guidelines are what they are)
spare venture
yeah its a fair requirement
fallen oracle
Plan has definitely made improvements over the past year for their performance so I wouldn't say instantly rule it out especially if you aren't pulling like 100+ at any given moment.
spare venture
thats true I last tested it over a year ago
twin lagoon
meh i'd still rule it out
spare venture
but it still listens on a ton of stuff
twin lagoon
90% of the metrics plan provides aren't useful imo
fallen oracle
It probably just depends on what you want to get out of it.
i.e. what you are trying to get data on.
olive marlin
Ehh, that doesn't solve my problem as it can't do any rules like limit IPS etc. 
twin lagoon
wdym limit ips
olive marlin
I want to allow connections only from certain IPS.
twin lagoon
you can
olive marlin
Ufw-docker can't do that.
olive marlin
Would probably need to do it with iptables directly.
minor badge
@twin lagoon hmmmmm
olive marlin
Hmm.
twin lagoon
i use the after.rules myself in combination with pterodactyl
minor badge
@twin lagoon hmmmmmmmmmm
twin lagoon
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
minor badge
wtf spammer
upper flicker
visual egret
olive marlin
ufw route allow from <ip> to <docker subnet>
That'll whitelist all ports though won't it?
visual egret
winscp does not like the 80mb text file
ashen cliff
So Audacity 3.0 dropped after 30 years of development.
left swift
Is that your album name
ashen cliff
It is now.
left swift
Slav rap
ashen cliff
Also Volvo just broke our record.
limber knotBOT
I love how it manages to look modern and still like it used to: https://www.audacityteam.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Theme_Light.png
limber knotBOT
nice cheating 👀
ashen cliff
It's not cheating, if it's a controlled environment. 
twin lagoon
That'll whitelist all ports though won't it?
add port <port>
olive marlin
ig. I'll just setup it only on my backup server and everywhere else will use traefik.
Networking is fun
worn ember
I love how it manages to look modern and still like it used to: https://www.auda...
looks even more trash the old version
idk hwo they managed to do that
do your play/pause buttons really need to take up half of your action bar?
limber knotBOT
they were always that big, they just used to have a way more outdated, round look
worn ember
are you saying round is outdated?
all they did was remove the embos or whatever you call that shit and make it rounded squares
10/10 ui improvements
@warm anchor god i hate dota sometimes xD i get a pos 4 alch who does fuck all in lane and saps xp and then goes jungle farming radiance...
no surpise we lost
olive marlin
Discord is drunk again.
visual egret
that just happens when a text channel isnt selected
olive marlin
Why does buster ship with such old systemd 
tropic flame
hello world
tropic flame
I love how it manages to look modern and still like it used to: https://www.auda...
it looks... practically the same
spare venture
Irc sucks
tropic flame
yes
visual egret
irc is epic
limber knotBOT
using web chat 👀
visual egret
Interesting
olive marlin
I just got that too.
fallen oracle
I think mine enabled a few weeks back, haven't noticed any problems.
golden gust
I need help
woven otter
that's a lot of messages cat
wraith trail
woven otter
cat is full time chatter
cosmic raft
bot might have outdated stats or something, dunno
twin lagoon
it only counts messages where it has access to
it might not have access to all of your internal channels
twin lagoon
that's a good point
wraith trail
dyno gives up after a while of deleting messages on ban
look at nnyak, still has 30k messages here
not sure if that is dyno though
spare venture
He had that many messages? Jesus
spare venture
I’ve been here for like 2.5 years and had only like 60k or so
No idea I have anymore after the purge
How many I have*
woven otter
mfw
spare venture
duck do me
woven otter
is that even you
spare venture
wowee
woven otter
oh yes it is
worn ember
duck do me
void void
anyone know a good plugin to have a shop thats kinda like offerup, players can put item up for sale for diamonds and stuff?
upper flicker
update your discord jeez
cosmic raft
worn ember
make me 
upper flicker
alright, Im coming over there
woven otter
rookie numbers
you just ask for more help
fallen oracle
😏
worn ember
worn ember
you just ask for more help
yes i need loads of help
woven otter
yes
wide hazel
twin lagoon
HELLO EGG
ancient bolt
I think I've fully set up my new linux machine
upper flicker
I just like the party popper effect
ancient bolt
i have so few things I actually do on this thing
why do I even bother
like 95% of what I do is in a web browser
so chrome is basically the whole install
twin lagoon
mood
ancient bolt
add intellij on top and copy over the project files and like what else is there to do
unreal pike
my server keeps loading even if i am not logged on, for example, if i log off whille underwater, when i come back i will have drowned.
has anyone heard of this issue? i was curious
twin lagoon
my computer is really just an expensive glorified webbrowser machine
golden cairn
where do we buy it?
fallen oracle
add intellij on top and copy over the project files and like what else is there ...
Sounds like paperweight production ready to begin 
wide hazel
don't mind me, just forgot to renew my nitro
golden cairn
@fallen oracle how do we buy a server?
twin lagoon
@fallen oracle yes where do we buy a server
fallen oracle
golden cairn
huh
tepid turtle
my computer is really just an expensive glorified webbrowser machine
mac?
twin lagoon
god, no
ashen cliff
<https://helpch.at/host>
Better update that for OVH.
twin lagoon
better fork that for kgb hosting v2
ashen cliff
No. Cuz KGB actually works.
upper flicker
SBG2 has some smoking deals
ashen cliff
On the other hand OVH be looking kinda 🔥.
void void
anyone know a good plugin to have a shop thats kinda like offerup, players can put item up for sale for diamonds and stuff? ??
ashen cliff
Auctions?
golden cairn
i still dont understand how to buy a server
worn ember
you throw $$$ at it
void void
so is there no like good market plug where people can post items for sale on it?
worn ember
do some googling
modest path
i still dont understand how to buy a server
find a hosting company or get a vps/dedi if you have the money to spare
void void
not auction i want people able to a command in the chat and it pulls up a gui and they can sell there item like diamonds and stuff and sell it to someone else for like gold or iron or anything they want
modest path
probably better to get a dedi if you can afford one so you have full control of what's running
potent fossil
Yeah usually custom item economies are built from scratch, because there has to be some underlying exchange system right, I'm not sure of a plugin that just exists out of the box for that besides having players just do it
void void
hmmm im just looking for someone who was one I dont mind paying for it just want one lol
potent fossil
I'm not sure of one that already exists, this might be something you need to pay a developer to make for you. Which for that you'd want to go to Spigot or MCMarket and post a hiring thread. However, there might be some obscure plugin I don't know about. In which case you'll want to keep asking around (but I don't know)
Good luck
worn ember
Thanks
void void
alright thanks
potent fossil
.kill DeD
limber knotBOT
beheads DeD with a polished axe and uses their head to play tennis.
worn ember
well hey, at least it was polished
potent fossil
ty
worn ember
@warm anchor https://youtu.be/QcH4Aoj7K08 slacks is on netflix now 
fallen oracle
Wait they released the dota show?
worn ember
25th
fallen oracle
Damn
worn ember
im so hyped lol
potent fossil
i wish i was into mobas
worn ember
no you dont
potent fossil
just not my jam
potent fossil
That's pretty much why I don't like it. The idea is fun but I can't do the toxicity. I played dota like twice, but did league mainly and league actually sent me into a horrible mental health spiral
so yea dont play those fuckers anymore kek
tribal flicker
i love the game, i hate the players
sounds like irl
😳
worn ember
yeah you need a mentality of steel to consistently play without getting tilted
tbh, i think its very enjoyable to see people completely lash out and you thinking to yourself "yeah ok mate, guess you ran out of meds"
spare venture
<:wtf:656938326888284163>
worn ember
its insane the amount of people that rage over video games
it would take me like 4-5 games of r-words to start getting tilted lol
vernal moth
Man
What is it with dum duck duck go ads
Like
Imagine
If the would not pay for dum ads, but make their product better
Mind = blown
Maybe then ppl would actually use their software
waxen panther
pretty sure 90% of their advertising budget is spent on quora ads too 
vernal moth
And if it goes really good, maybe, just maybe, they will also not need the !g command
Because every thread tying to get ppl to use ddg will mention the use of !g
vernal moth
pretty sure 90% of their advertising budget is spent on quora ads too <:PepeLaug...
90% of my Twitter mobile ads are ddg
Dis kinda shit
Even worse, it's a fucking iOS app store screenshot
cunning raft
yeah it's so fucking cancer
cunning raft
DDG ads make me not want to use DDG even more
vernal moth
It's like mozilla
Know what your fucking core buisness is and spend your resources on that
stray mantle
DM spambot that DM'ed me isn't banned yet...
spare venture
tbh, i think its very enjoyable to see people completely lash out and you thinki...
what game? Dota?
spare venture
DM spambot that DM'ed me isn't banned yet...
Did you report the ID in the report channel?
Oh it’s gone
cosmic raft
#dm-spam-reports
formal turret
its at the top now
waxen panther
mine are too targetted, its all for stuff i've already bought lol
spare venture
I googled a prebuilt from micro center and all the ads I get now are about PC and prebuilds
modest path
i don't get what the point of targetted ads are
waxen panther
?
modest path
Are they to be helpful? I mean, the only thing you achieve is annoying the person you're giving targetted ads to
waxen panther
theres no point advertising baby supplies to a 12 year old boy
ads do work otherwise no one would do them lol
spare venture
Yeah of course targeted ads work
vestal jasper
You get advertised things you're more likely to buy
spare venture
Why do you think google has so much money?
vestal jasper
At least thats the point
spare venture
Or how do you think social media platforms make money?
They sell data for advertisers to target
Data/info is the most valuable resource in the world
vestal jasper
Zuccs a reptile that works for the illuminated
potent fossil
i use adnauseam, a ublock origin fork, that blocks ads but also saves them for later and clicks every single one of them wasting money for the advertiser (PPC) and also making the targetting useless on me as it clicks everything
potent fossil
spare venture
I mean I don’t mind targeted ads
I’d rather get something useful to me advertised rather than something I don’t care about
potent fossil
to each their own
i'd rather make them waste their money and also fail to target me at the same time
waxen panther
I've found a couple cool things from ads but yeah i have them blocked 99% of the time
modest path
ublock has been amazing for me
so a fork that actively works to annoy advertisers is better
spare venture
iPhone mobile doesn’t really have ad blocking as a thing aside from like a pihole
spare venture
Idk sometimes I get ads for stuff that I’m interested in
potent fossil
End consumerism
fallen oracle
Simple did you really start doing emoji urls 😂
potent fossil
Yes
spare venture
Hell no simple I just started making money I want to consume everything
modest path
thats one beautiful ad cluster
tribal flicker
how does this ad target people
potent fossil
I'm in an LDR and that ad pops up all the fucking time trying to get me to send a care package to my SO
I haven't been using adnauseaum very long yet so they have me targetted. but soon 
olive marlin
iPhone mobile doesn’t really have ad blocking as a thing aside from like a pihol...
Can't you use Firefox mobile? It can run extensions.
vernal moth
Remember: every browser is safari in apple lang
potent fossil
mini wtf is this i in your name
vernal moth
Wat
olive marlin
I remember when you used to be able to download system-wide adblock.
spare venture
These are my ads on Instagram right now haha. They know me too well
Oh god that was bigger than I expected
olive marlin
.mini
potent fossil
an iMiniDigger
vernal moth
Am getting pranked
spare venture
Anyway why would I use anything other than safari on iOS
olive marlin
Mini is past his peak and can't see anything.
vernal moth
Mini is past his peak and can't see anything.
Sshhhhhh
I don't remember how much I drank
potent fossil
there it's better now 
olive marlin
I don't remember how much I drank
Me neither.
vernal moth
But then they said let's do an aram
modest path
what word is the opposite of branching
vernal moth
And now it's 1:41
modest path
don't say single because i already have a SingleNode
vernal moth
Merging
modest path
merging is good
tropic flame
Anyway why would I use anything other than safari on iOS
for no reason, any other iOS browser simply uses safari's engine
unless you really need Firefox sync
vernal moth
Even drunk am galaxy brain
modest path
galmaxy brian
spare venture
for no reason, any other iOS browser simply uses safari's engine
I figured
fallen oracle
Brave?
tropic flame
I don't think Apple allows any iOS-compatible browser to use an engine other than Safari's, really
tropic flame
they're all just reskins with their own syncing feature
waxen panther
i miss chromium 😔
tropic flame
Firefox ftw
left swift
omg is that the famous broccolai from rust
cunning raft
yeah apple forces using webkit
spare venture
the what
left swift
vernal moth
I will never understand why that is legal jroy
spare venture
nomana pls send me that emoji
cunning raft
which brings up a cool loophole, if you find a bug in webkit, report it to google and you're more likely to get a payout :>
since apple's bounty system is fuckin garbo
vernal moth
Like, that gotta be anti competitive as fuck
modest path
why does that work
spare venture
iOS is extremely anti competitive
modest path
kinda
unkempt drift
Oh here we go again...
spare venture
There’s still cases against their App Store, right?
tropic flame
Like, that gotta be anti competitive as fuck
Yes but you see, only Microsoft can be anti-competitive /s
vernal moth
Msft was forced to change tho
cunning raft
mini: iOS is not considered a market which can be anti-competitive. since it's a market created by apple they can set their own rules
tropic flame
at the eyes of the law
cunning raft
there's a legal term for this but i always forget it
tropic flame
ok i messed up the joke
vernal moth
How is this any different to windows and IE?
spare venture
And jroy I think that’s fair
tropic flame
How is this any different to windows and IE?
but yeah that was the point
cunning raft
that's why epic's lawsuit will fail
vernal moth
It was a market created by msft?
vernal moth
Ios is 100% of the iphone market?
unkempt drift
Yeah, their own market
spare venture
Okay but iPhone isn’t a market
unkempt drift
They can do whatever they want with it
spare venture
Windows had to stop bundling IE because they had the entire PC market cornered
vernal moth
Pc market was msft market
unkempt drift
HP has 100% control over the HP printer market
tropic flame
haha yes everyone chose my product so I'm going to get a lawsuit about it
spare venture
Windows is allowed to bundle IE now iirc?
cunning raft
fuck i wish i remember the term for it, but if you create a market you cannot misuse your monopoly power in it
vernal moth
Windows displays a browser choose thingy
spare venture
It’s about the dominance in the market
Apple doesn’t have a monopoly on phones, windows had a monopoly on personal computers
Right?
vernal moth
That's dum
unkempt drift
^
vernal moth
Clearly there is missuse here
spare venture
Not clearly to everyone
cunning raft
no, it's a too specific a market
vernal moth
Apple is banning all browser engines from millions of devices
cunning raft
that doesn't matter
spare venture
And I’m not even sure you could call iPhone a monopoly
cunning raft
it's their market
waxen panther
its not like iphones are the only option, people can just choose to not buy an ios device
cunning raft
switch to android
spare venture
iPhone is the minority in the overall phone market
cunning raft
apple is free to set the terms of their app store
vernal moth
That's like calling the McDonald's workers you don't need minimum wage, if you don't like it, go work elsewhere
cunning raft
and from what i understand the IE antitrust shit was a way different interpretation of the antitrust laws than we use today
and that's different mini
waxen panther
its not really like that at all, if anything iphones are more expensive than competing androids
cunning raft
well kinda
cunning raft
Labor markets can be an oligopoly which fix the wages to certain prices at certain places
but that's different
spare venture
Anyway
waxen panther
airplane food?
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by party#2255 - result 1 of 10
spare venture
Lmfao
vernal moth
Healing stones, lmao
spare venture
Suge Knight?
cunning raft
nah not him
potent fossil
what's the logic in that shit anyway. is like "we're carbon based, that's carbon, must be gud"
potent fossil
kekw
spare venture
Healing crystals
potent fossil
vernal moth
Good vibes n shit
cunning raft
protects against frequencies and unwanted frequencies
vernal moth
The lines of the atoms align with the stars
vernal moth
protects against frequencies and unwanted frequencies
Reminds me of the idiots who put their router into a metal cage
To block radiating frequencies
cunning raft
lul
potent fossil
luv me some afternoon pseudoscience
unkempt drift
The earth is flat btw
potent fossil
really gets the brain a'wanting to die
warm anchor
Just ask Jroy. No need healing crystal. He’s a wizard
waxen panther
spiral robin
@cunning raft 
waxen panther
@cunning raft 
spare venture
🥺
coarse lily
@spiral robin hi
coarse lily
Currently tired and hungry but breathing
waxen panther
bucket hat wetsuit gaming here
spiral robin
Ok
olive marlin
Aber 
spiral robin
Bloodstone 
potent fossil
how come all of you assholes opened my snaps but never replied
u meanie mean mean meanies.
spare venture
void void
Hey
waxen panther
HEY
void void
Does anyone know what Spectrum ISP is
waxen panther
true canyon
Does anyone know what Spectrum ISP is
wat
true canyon
Are you really asking if people are familiar with the existence of a large ISP? Is that it?
cunning raft
anyone ever heard of google
warm anchor
They are pretty shit
void void
They are pretty shit
Ah ok
true canyon
No. Nobody has heard of Spectrum but you.
warm anchor
in fact, aside from fibre service, all ISP are equally shit in US
void void
No. Nobody has heard of Spectrum but you.
What is CRSED
cunning raft
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warm anchor
Your best bet is to live in a city with at least some sort of competition if you want decent service in US
formal turret
lol?
waxen panther
people with no avatars are always incredible
void void
Phozop is god
spiral robin
good bye and good night broccol eye .
warm anchor
brocoolai has 50/50 chance to not sleep anyway
unkempt drift
damn, just missed out on the vaccine
was a little too late showing up at the place when they said they had 100 left for anyone
but... it gave me a great idea. Show up early, get first in line for standby, then sell your spot to the people who show up after. Based on where I live, I could probably make a couple hundred bucks
potent fossil
god capitalism is a fucking disgrace
imagine selling your place in a line for a lifesaving vaccine
🤡
worn ember
ez money
unkempt drift
"lifesaving" isnt the right word
potent fossil
oh lord
unkempt drift
I'm in like the lowest risk group, young no existing conditions
potent fossil
im not gonna do vax benefits discussion rn, none of are immunologists
unkempt drift
I will get it eventually...
warm anchor
Yeah if you go to the pfizer site, they will give out extra atleat in US
unkempt drift
I just don't need it this second
warm anchor
coz each batch comes with 1 extra dose
worn ember
i wish my coke came with an extra dose 
warm anchor
due to regulation, they would've to discard it anyway so the guideline is just to give anyone on site (this may based on state rule though)
unkempt drift
oh lord
I think you maybe assumed a little too much here. I def want the vaccine. and I know I will get it. I gauge the value of a couple hundred bucks against the really small chance I get it, and the tiny change I die from it, and say the money is more valuable.
potent fossil
yeah, ok
unkempt drift
People prioritize stuff over "safety" all the time. Just look at everyone who drives faster than the speed limit. Safety does not come first in real life.
potent fossil
ok
worn ember
doesnt mean it shouldnt
unkempt drift
Should it? Should everything be done, regardless of consequences to have a few people die from anything ever?
waxen panther
you guys have to pay for it?
potent fossil
nope that's exactly the point. he gets told its his turn for his FREE vaccine and then wants to sell his place in line so someone who wants it more can get it
unkempt drift
no no
potent fossil
sorry, just some disgusting capitalism
unkempt drift
I dont get told
potent fossil
dont want to step in that pile of shit
unkempt drift
I go and wait for extras
warm anchor
Simple read what I said. There do have extras. I think there is a misunderstanding here lol
unkempt drift
nowhere did I say you could sell your place when its your turn
Sometimes, there are extras they need to use
then its a first come first serve thing
potent fossil
whatever, i understand there are 'extras'. it's still a free vaccine and you accepting an extra and then selling your place in line is an abuse of your fellow citizens, why not just help them get the fucking vaccine for free like you just did instead of exploiting them
that is what is disgusting
upper flicker
waxen panther
z 
warm anchor
LOL fucking z750
unkempt drift
I'm not forcing anyone to pay me?
worn ember
simple just being simple again
unkempt drift
and if no one wanted to, I'd get it myself 🤷♂️
potent fossil
ok whatever, this is literally the worst thing I have ever had the displeasure of listening to
good luck.
worn ember
i can fix that for you simple
worn ember
better than arguing over vaccines if you ask me 
waxen panther
urmom ?
worn ember
she already left
unkempt drift
If I didn't advertise that I was willing to sell my spot in line to get a leftover shot, and someone else came up and said, I'd give you $300 bucks to take your spot, is it bad if I say yes?
Is it the act of advertising that I'd sell my spot that is the issue?
wraith trail
from my perspective it'd be going with the intent to sell your spot
because tbh thats kinda scummy
unkempt drift
I would get the shot if no one agreed to it tho, so I'm not taking someone elses spot in line or smth
going back after you got the shot and doing it is scummy
wraith trail
well yes you are
it is possible you are not, say you are the last person to show up and these specific doses expire that night, however what if there was someone behind you? Then you would absolutely be taking someone's spot
that is someone behind you who was not willing to pay
spiral robin
@minor badge 
unkempt drift
mm ok, I see what you mean there. But is there something wrong with paying to take someone elses spot? People use money to gain an advantage in literally everything. People with money use it to improve their own lives all the time.
wraith trail
not to the same extent
unkempt drift
well wait hold on, the person behind me who's spot I would be taking in the same scenario you laid out wouldn't have gotten the shot if I stayed in line.
wraith trail
it'd be different to go expecting to get your dose, then someone random walks up (unprompted) saying "here, take 1k for your spot" and agreeing to that vs going up and saying "hey i'll sell this spot for x amount"
unkempt drift
and they still wont if someone else takes my spot
nothing changed from their perspective
if I was 100th in line for 100 vaccines, the 101st person wont get the shot either way. if I stay, or if I sell my spot
My choices are to stay, or sell my spot, neither of which changes the outcome of the person behind me
wraith trail
no, they wouldn't but just the idea of being able to pay in order to get something sooner that the person behind you may need much more than the person with money is just gross
which whether or not you stand in line and sell your spot will happen, and is happening
unkempt drift
what if the person paying needs it more?
you can't know who actually needs it more
wraith trail
well thats difficult and hard to gauge
just the idea that someone can pay to gain in this scenario
unkempt drift
yes exactly, which is why the extras are given out regardless of need.
you can't take into account need in this situation.
well it sounds like your issue is with the person paying then right?
I'm not paying to "cut" (not really cutting) in line
wraith trail
well it's difficult
potent fossil
No the issue is people offering to sell and people offering to buy. It's disgusting.
wraith trail
realistically both
worn ember
we should go back to trading fish
warm anchor
dont worry sulu Mitsuki is typing 
golden gust
Wish it was Mitski
warm anchor
~~ngl some people has more problem running server than my ex ~~
pastel pivot
In my opinion you should have a guilty conscience about getting money for nothing. The vaccine is likely free for you in the first place and a much scientific research has gone into it. It wouldn't be fair if you sell it.
worn ember
inb4 but we already pay taxes stonar
pastel pivot
which is used, among other things, for this research.
unkempt drift
What about paying someone to get there early and hold a place in line?
That is almost the equivalent of what I suggested, and its not money for nothing
its money for doing a job
the difference is, I was hired before hand, vs retroactively hired
void void
Yo, just wondering, do any of y'all use the free aws servers?
void void
I was going to use it for image hosting..
wraith trail
what question do you have about it?
and yes I have used them in the past
to give context to eternity's response, most people taking about super low end hosting are asking how to put minecraft on it
even stuff like heroku
warm anchor
imagine host is fine for sure. Sorry for jumping the gun 
too many question like that
modest path
</google:816176849147002923> term: google
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by Printer Man - result 4 of 6
modest path
pencil source code pls
warm anchor
You will have to get it over Sulu's dead body
modest path
fuck
wraith trail
it's open source.. but.. uh
wraith trail
was gonna make it better but heard kashike is making his own bot so it's days are probably limited
warm anchor
dont worry hes a printer. He litearlly has the worse code /s
modest path
literally gonna cry ;-;
modest path
i'm writing a discord bot too, just with javacord since i don't know js
modest path
I still have ptsd when intalling printer drivers back in the days.
good
i gotta learn js css and html one of these days
modest path
i want to make a cat cache portfolio
warm anchor
wait sulu where you put the soruce code 
lost drift
whats the command to give a full recipe book
modest path
</google:816176849147002923> term: whats the command to get a
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by Printer Man - result 1 of 10
modest path
fucking
lost drift
how the hell did it give a command block video
wraith trail
if this is what your talking about, just /recipe give <username> * iirc
lost drift
ok thanks i got too lazy to google lol
pastel pivot
That is almost the equivalent of what I suggested, and its not money for nothing
The difference is that in one case someone hires you to hold a place, while in the other case you will try to get money from people who would no longer get the vaccine. That is a different service and a different starting point. You take advantage of the situation of those people to profit.
unkempt drift
yes. But I think "take advantage of" has too strong of a negative connotation. This isn't a limited item, they have no reason to suspect they wont get the vaccine, the US has/will have plenty to go around. This isn't a situation where people will pay any amount for the good, like it would be if there was a really good chance you would die tomorrow, if you didnt get this thing right now.
If you were in a situation where there was a high probability someone would die if they didnt get water today, and there was a limited amount of water available, I agree it would be a horrible thing to take advantage of the desperation of people to get water to make money, but that isn't this situation
but the people who show up for extra doses arent the people most likely to be affected by covid
I have something (my place in line, and I value it at some amount of money), someone else values my place in line at some amount of money, if those are equal, we complete the exchange. I, like them, also want the vaccine, I just place a lower value on getting the vaccine right now, then they do.
waxen panther
this is awful
unkempt drift
IF I tried to start a bidding war for my spot, trying to maximize the amount people would pay for it, THAT qualifies as taking advantage imo, because you are pitting other people's value against a third party, which may cause them to over pay what they wouldve paid normally which would be taking advantage of them.
unkempt drift
this is awful
why is this awful?
unkempt drift
this doesn't have anything to do with politics?
this is about ethics (which most politicians seem to have none of 🤣 )
waxen panther
wraith trail
discord working well as always
upper flicker
minor staff changes
upper flicker
old ones sucked
cunning raft
paper is now going to be grabbing patches from all over
merging them all into itself
it will be great
cannot fail
upper flicker
why understand when you can just copy pasta
cunning raft
it's gonna be automatic
unkempt drift
need to merge yatopia into paper
cunning raft
and tested by the users
waxen panther
upper flicker
play nice, we know who we were talking about
cunning raft
tuinity
upper flicker
essx, clearly
cunning raft
yeah i heard that too
waxen panther
constantly trying to rewrite balance api too 
modest path
they're always pulling patches from cmi
what
waxen panther
obvious joke is obvious 😔
modest path
nono i got it, just what
potent fossil
if you didn't get it the first time then don't worry about it 
left swift
Brocc is just bad at jokes
potent fossil
nomana is cute
left swift
No u
potent fossil
vestal jasper
oof
left swift
potent fossil
Josh is cute too
untold copper
you what
mental meadow
https://zerforschung.org/posts/medicus
@vernal moth 🙃🙃🙃
mental meadow
Oh God this is juicy
Tldr a company making software for covid-19 testing facilities
-used ascending numbers for the test results
-did not check which account access the result
(If you had result 12345, 12344 was the person before you, oh and the result contained the name, address, phone, mail, and passport ID)
-u could change all your data via the api and it would just update the test result pdf, making it possible to generate negative results for others
-had a open dashboard with testing stations and test results down to the second, for multiple testing centers as well as companies
left swift
mental meadow
please wash your hands before reading this blog post, there is a high risk of repeated facepalming
worn pasture
potent fossil
wow yikes
tepid turtle
Oh God this is juicy
Tldr a company making software for covid-19 testing facilit...
reminds me of the uk track and trace covid scheme, they used an excel spreadsheet to store the data 
potent fossil
My rate of loss of faith in humanity has increased
ashen cliff
Already at -7.
vernal moth
https://zerforschung.org/posts/medicus
<@134340832093405184> 🙃🙃🙃
Wwoooooo, Datenreichtum as fefe would say it ^^
olive marlin
So it's this time of day in PaperMC general.
tepid turtle
welcome to papermc general
olive marlin
No messages in an hour. No DM spam, no Balkan wars, no fight over bukkit license or what is open source license and what is not...
It's boring.
limber knotBOT
I mean if you want a fight just talk about freebsd vs linux
Are there even enough freebsd fanboys here?
limber knotBOT
See we already got michael engaged
olive marlin
BTW, Arch is lame. Real Chads use Void.
limber knotBOT
True
olive marlin
runs
limber knotBOT
now just say something stupid like "FreeBSD is better than linux" and profit
olive marlin
Michale 
limber knotBOT
FreeBSD does not handle timings well, so unarguably it's worse
untold copper
fornite
limber knotBOT
I have no clue but I just disagree to get you the fight you want
olive marlin
Well, i don't think Linux will start huge war here. But just talk about why Kotlin is superior to Java...
(please actually don't)
limber knotBOT
nani?!?
why don't we start talking about how c# is totally superior to java
Kotlin users are basically those peoople that want to have Java 17 features with a Java 8 JVM
yeah
Kotlin is not bad but I dont enjoy it either
olive marlin
Kotlin users are those who want to have proper nullability handled in the language. And want to express themselves in less characters while maintaining readability.
limber knotBOT
It has a slightly different syntax, so why learn it if there is no inherent advantage to it?
waxen panther
not really lol
olive marlin
Brocc 
waxen panther
i use java but there are many benefits in kotlin that java 17 doesnt have
bloodstone 
limber knotBOT
Java 17 hasn't realeased yet, so we cannot know
waxen panther
sorry i meant 16, but i would be shocked if 17 had proper nullability handling and extension methods lol
olive marlin
I wish Rust could be transpiled to work on JVM >.>
potent fossil
Jrust
waxen panther
do it
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
I mean this year is generally retarded as fuck so just wait for the release
potent fossil
cousin of Jython and JRuby
limber knotBOT
oh I am sorry
Didn't mean to offend anyone
I mean, there were two nono words there
olive marlin
Jrust is doing it the other way simple. It coverts Java to rust.
twin lagoon
waiting for gradle java 16 support
limber knotBOT
I am on IRC
twin lagoon
potent fossil
waxen panther
that was the joke
twin lagoon
@waxen panther 
waxen panther
michael
limber knotBOT
Why does Gradle even not support Java 16?
waxen panther
no simple, if i cant upgrade to java 16 in the first week i just dont know what i'll do with myself
life wont be worth living
potent fossil
Brocc shut up before I cuddle you to DEATH
waxen panther
guess i wont shut up 
twin lagoon
Why does Gradle even not support Java 16?
potent fossil
quasi valley
illegal access 
waxen panther
mmm yes java 16 breaks guice doesnt it
potent fossil
I want that nootropic drink to get here already i have experiments to run
waxen panther
i think guice 5 fixes it but it'll still break with assisted inject
untold copper
pew pew
limber knotBOT
Ah using long deprecated features
untold copper
ur dead
quasi valley
imagine a world where you actually cant change final and/or private field values anymore
limber knotBOT
All CE plugin would be gone
twin lagoon
@void void hello does tcpshield's plogen do any reflection for bungeecord™️
waxen panther
michael still using bungee wtf 😔
limber knotBOT
We now only use forks of Velocity
waxen panther
sorry 
minor badge
@waxen panther why would assisted inject break with j16?
untold copper
new profile pic nice
waxen panther
assisted inject still gives the illegal reflective access warning
or is that not the one thats completely disabled in 16
lean kiln
illegal activity
waxen panther
WARNING: An illegal reflective access operation has occurred
WARNING: Illegal reflective access by com.google.inject.assistedinject.FactoryProvider2 (file:/home/kori/dev/minecraft/servers/sixteen/plugins/tickets-bukkit.jar) to constructor java.lang.invoke.MethodHandles$Lookup(java.lang.Class,java.lang.Class,int)
WARNING: Please consider reporting this to the maintainers of com.google.inject.assistedinject.FactoryProvider2
thanks jmp
waxen panther
i am dumb .
minor badge
huh
twin lagoon
```
WARNING: An illegal reflective access operation has occurred
WARNING: Illega...
ew kori
waxen panther
😔
quasi valley
jmp giving all em helpful answers today
waxen panther
we love jmp
waxen panther
looks like theres been a minor version release since the one im on, i'll upgrade just incase
for guice
lean kiln
why aren't you relocating it
waxen panther
i will be, havent done any relocations in the rewrite yet
lean kiln
ah
twin lagoon
@quasi valley uwuwuwuwuw
waxen panther
am lazy, gradle stuff last 
quasi valley
wtf michael
minor badge
@waxen panther seems like privateLookupIn is a good alternative for assisted inject 
might be because it's written for java 8 or smth?
waxen panther
auto factory is supposed to be the replacement for assisted inject now right?
i couldn't figure it out though
minor badge
google/auto has never worked well for me
waxen panther
i tried converting the cloud argument factory stuff to it but didnt seem like it fulfilled the same use case to me
minor badge
I'll try it out later today I guess
fluid elm
heh
waxen panther
@minor badge looks like it's fixed in the 5.0 full release, didnt see any relevant commits but w/e
minor badge
ah ic
tropic flame
no simple, if i cant upgrade to java 16 in the first week i just dont know what ...
laughs in staying on Java 8 forever because AdoptOpenJDK keeps supporting it
saying Java 8 is out of support is a myth
lean kiln
i use windows xp
mossy vessel
17, it is.
next frost
windows 17?
vernal moth
Staying on java 8 is literally wasting resources
Also, paper will force you to update to at least 11
And looking at launcher updates, mojang might gonna start updating soon too
mossy vessel
windows 17?
java 17, iDiOt!!!
limber knotBOT
Although likely we won't see a jump up to java 17
tropic flame
Also, paper will force you to update to at least 11
not if I never update the mc version 
mossy vessel
vernal moth
Must be sad to be you
tropic flame
i don't deny that
waxen panther
very cringe activity
void void
weird flex ngl
Lol at all the servers that have “1.8 - 1.16” in their banners
waxen panther
i too, can install viaversion .
limber knotBOT
ViaVersion? Whats that? We don't do protocol magic here
mossy vessel
viaversion 🤮
waxen panther
@quasi valley 
quasi valley
void void
omg, i'm so stupid, I just realized I haven't updated my java since like forever
it was still running on 8
idk why i even got that in the first place
mossy vessel
shell vine
wide chasm
I'm still use Java 8 for some old JavaFX stuff.
wide chasm
Also for old Spigot versions I need to use a lower Java version because of the version check
void void
the more important question is why it's named spigot
mossy vessel
void void
you askin this in a guild called "papermc"
i'm a very smart man you see
wide chasm
If I make a bug report to Spigot, they want tho know whether the bug was present in the previous version as well, that's the main reason I sometimes need to run it.
quasi valley
Also for old Spigot versions I need to use a lower Java version because of the v...
oh yeah that version check is truly amazing and totally not absolutely stupid
wide chasm
Yeah, it isn't like every time a new Java version comes out, the only change made is updating that check.
If I report it to Spigot it gets fixed across the board and since my plugins support Spigot, that's just the easiest for me
But reporting bugs to Spigot does take me very long, because I report whether the bug exists across 2 platforms and 2 versions.
spare venture
Is this PC generally good? And a good deal for $809? https://www.microcenter.com/product/631691/powerspec-g164-gaming-computer
shell vine
spare venture
Only concern really is the GPU which is why it’s so cheap I guess
Comparatively is this a good build and a good deal at $1,169? https://www.microcenter.com/product/626589/xps-8940-gaming-computer?ob=1&rf=Search+Results
void void
@void void
wide chasm
?ban @void void DM advertising
leaden oxideBOT
beshology#2589 was banned | DM advertising
void void
thx
waxen panther
#dm-spam-reports in the future 😔
void void
oh
topaz mortar
I'm still use Java 8 for some old JavaFX stuff.
Doesn't Open-fx have the same functionality?
As I know it's a shade in replacement.
wide chasm
Yes, but it's more that I can't be bothered to update the application
topaz mortar
Oh, feels demotivating.
quasi valley
fixed my awesome graph to hide the months of empty data ||mostly|| (also, a month of missing data now exists) https://kennytv.eu/secretgraph/
spare venture
where did this missing data come from
wide chasm
From nowhere, it's missing /s
spare venture
quasi valley
apparently someone is running a Paper fork with version "1.16.5 (EDIT" or something, tried to get the same from Spigot and 💥
spare venture
very interesting
it's funny how the further back you go in version, the closer they get
but even 1.11-1.16.5 paper is dominant, and it's kinda crazy how fast that is happening
quasi valley
yeah paper go 
waxen panther
paper domination 
spare venture
there are still so many servers on 1.16.4
olive garden
what's the x1.5 jump at the end?
quasi valley
apparently someone is running a Paper fork with version "1.16.5 (EDIT" or someth...
my definitely not bstats scraper just errored every day because of that and I didn't notice
olive garden
ouch
spare venture
lmfao
quasi valley
moved servers yesterday and was like "huh, something is wrong there"
spare venture
make the graph more public and people might notice and let you know
quasi valley
lol
wide chasm
kneny writing buggy code? Unbelievable!
spare venture
because that info is kinda nice to see
waxen panther
more public = more headache
spare venture
its a graph lol
quasi valley
and for the small amount of 1.13 servers, Via gets a surprisingly large amount of issues from then
olive garden
god help kneny when 1.17 drops
wide chasm
lol
tropic flame
bunch of clowns
nah, they are based
waxen panther
*ViaBackwards tho* https://i.imgur.com/Aihtdyr.png
wtf kenny just fix it 😔
tropic flame
yeah i sound like troll, right?
wide chasm
Wow, you're very smart broccolai, just fix it
limber knotBOT
Looks cool, make it a minigame
spare venture
both sound like they're going to be scuffed
tropic flame
in all honesty though, people play in the version they prefer ¯_(ツ)_/¯
limber knotBOT
+1 for making weired bug a minigame
spare venture
but yeah viabackwards 
tropic flame
so i don't care really
waxen panther
yes stef, works for me
limber knotBOT
the floor is void
fluid elm
hi
restive saffron
bunch of clowns
1.12 servers are just servers that like to remain stable
spare venture
1.16.5 is perfectly stable
waxen panther
Yes, I like to remain stable so I stay on Windows 98 !
restive saffron
For some reason, the community decided to just enjoy 1.12 and not update?
spare venture
the reason was the flattening, performance, and laziness
restive saffron
Yes, I like to remain stable so I stay on Windows 98 !
Windows 7 and then you’ve got the people who don’t update to windows 10
vestal jasper
The problem is people still expect support for those versions.
spare venture
i should say complacency, not laziness
wide chasm
uses windows 7
runs
waxen panther
smh stef
spare venture
waxen panther
classic no-avatar person
quasi valley
stef is about the only person allowed not to have an avatar
waxen panther
gentoo ! void linux ! templeos !
restive saffron
What’s that
limber knotBOT
Existance
waxen panther
quasi valley
anyone else coming in with the default red avatar is just an imposter
restive saffron
Some form of Linux?
waxen panther
which one romv
restive saffron
<:PES_TinFoilHat:621616606572969995>
Please, give me one.
spare venture
</google:816176849147002923> term: templos
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by party#2255 - result 1 of 10
spare venture
shit
waxen panther
nice
spare venture
</google:816176849147002923> term: templeos
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by party#2255 - result 1 of 10
waxen panther
restive saffron
Lmfao
cunning raft
its a shitpost barty
waxen panther
terry a davis
cunning raft
but the guy who made it doesn't know it was a shitpost
spare venture
640x480 is god's chosen resolution
minor badge
@wide chasm you should change your avatar to a different colour default avatar every few months
restive saffron
No 1080p is!
waxen panther
proxi no 😡
wide chasm
People would be so confused
spare venture
It was received with largely favorable reviews in tech communities and Davis amassed a small online following.[2]
mfw
waxen panther
barty have you actually not seen this before
spare venture
no i have
waxen panther
ok good
spare venture
just the largely favorable reviews part i have not
minor badge
just change the shade to be a little lighter
spare venture
made me fuckin die a little
waxen panther
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgoxQCf5Jg 90 minute video on it?
minor badge
1 point of whatever the software of your choice lets you do every day
wide chasm
I don't even recognize people when they change their avatar. I wondered who the new core team member was when kashike changed his avatar.
minor badge
spare venture
of course i have not watched a 90 minute video on templeos
waxen panther
wtf!
quasi valley
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgoxQCf5Jg> 90 minute video on it? <:peepoSmil...
that's a truly amazing video hahaha
waxen panther
exactly stef! thats how i feel with u!
waxen panther
do you know how many shmucks have the dumb default avatar
minor badge
i thought you used compact, broccolai