general

[untold copper]

why would I use sway and not powerpoint

[vernal moth]

Sway is way different than power point?

Sway is almost more like a blogging software

[potent fossil]

Ah yes, when kids have never worked in a company and been spammed by the operations people who discovered sway and keep using it to send (well designed but fucking annoying) newsletters, event info, maintenance info, and whateverthefuckelse.txt :p

food in the break room first come first serve

• made with Microsoft Sway

[vernal moth]

^^

[worn ember]

feed me simple

[tepid turtle]

pain

I mean it's not the worst I've seen

[worn ember]

sure, but not something you'd put in an advert if you actually want to get someone hired

[warm anchor]

The title kinda implies the setup is temporary so it’s probably not that bad?

[magic river]

It could be worse https://i.redd.it/p7eyfhtuegqz.jpg

[limber knot]

hi guys

hello oskar

whats up

absolutely nothing

for some reason pterodactyl and google remote desktop refuse to work on school computers

i cant access stuff thats coming in in realtime i guess

but then IRC works so idk

IRC isn't web-based

I'm using an online IRC client

true dat

[olive marlin]

New chromium from snap is bugged and nukes your profile: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1917705

[limber knot]

seems to only be linked ones which didn't work for ages without hacks anyways?

why would anyone run Chromium instead of Chrome and still willingly send all their data to Google anyways?

[magic river]

Wow so they don't just block ongoing syncs, they actually added code to wipe the synced profile

[vernal moth]

Why would anyone use snap? Lol

[limber knot]

I assume that the wiping is just "accidental", they probably just force-logout you which obviously removes the data as it can no longer be accessed via their servers and wasn't meant to be stored locally

I have been not using sync since they broke it in custom chromium builds years ago, I'm actually surprised people got it working again without forking

[magic river]

iirc you just had to provide some kind of API key?

[limber knot]

I actually did that but couldn't get it working on android iirc

[autumn glen]

Did anyone know abt this new feature from discord coming soon? - YouTube watch together. Be in a call with ppl and have a viewing party with youtube
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/794089277713678386/820878289551360050/6yh5k9haz2n61.png

[limber knot]

or maybe it was some other issue, not sure

but does it block ads?

[autumn glen]

If it did, would be perfect

[limber knot]

if they don't they will have to somehow sync ad durations between all participants lol

imo directly streaming it is still better ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[magic river]

That's not too hard, just wait to move on after an ad break until everyone signals ready

[limber knot]

would still mean you have to waste time as well as watch ads

and both ruin any video lol

(also it would probably be near impossible to integrate Sponsor Block xD)

[merry talon]

people actually use that?

[limber knot]

of course? lol

[merry talon]

seems way more unethical than adblock, I won't

[limber knot]

fuck ads

in any form

[cunning raft]

it's more ethical to use sponsor block

since ad plays are directly tied to money

[limber knot]

(also sponsor block skips non-music parts in videos and I primarily listen to music via youtube xD)

[cunning raft]

sponsors (99.9% of the time) don't look at viewer retention

[wide chasm]

❤️ SponsorBlock

[merry talon]

a lot of what you watch and use every day wouldn't exist without ads

[cunning raft]

phoenix lives in an ideal world where he gets to pay for all services and the poor people get fucked

because he personally doesn't agree with ads

[limber knot]

poor people don't need to watch shit content

nobody does

click bait and fake news does not help anyone

[cunning raft]

see what I'm saying

[merry talon]

wtf are you on about

[cunning raft]

this is what you're dealing with

[wide chasm]

Not even for just the sponsors, also the people that discovered the nice bar chart of subscribers vs non-subscribers and mention it every single video

[cunning raft]

any take about ads from phoenix is as good as whatever your 2 month year old nephew has to say on the matter

[limber knot]

yeah, fuck youtube for telling every creator that they need to mention that people should like, subscribe and enable notifications otherwise the algo will derank them

[cunning raft]

fuck youtube for providing a way for people to make money

yeah!!!!

[limber knot]

they don't

[vernal moth]

Sponsorblock blocks foofball on Germans main evening news show 😂

[limber knot]

youtube makes money for themselves

that's their goal

[cunning raft]

phoenix

[merry talon]

youtube doesn't profit

[limber knot]

if you think they care about quality content creators then you are delusional

[cunning raft]

playing braindead doesn't make you look good

[limber knot]

they care about watch time

[cunning raft]

phoenix WHY WOULDN'T THEY

[limber knot]

you know what brings in watch time? controversial content and click bait

the internet would be a much better place if content creators would be held resposible for the advertisement that plays on their content

same goes for news page

*pages

Latter is more important

The ads that are on them is just disgusting

click bait would not be profitable if they would have to vet the ads that run on their site themselves

[cunning raft]

that's not at all logistically possible phoenix

[limber knot]

it is

[vestal jasper]

Do they even have control of that?

[cunning raft]

you can't expect everyone to find their own sponsor

[limber knot]

lmao

I can

[cunning raft]

no you can't

[limber knot]

that's how it worked in the past

[cunning raft]

you can pretend it is all day long but it just isn't

on a large scale, your small guys will always be left out

[limber knot]

what you mean is "I can't expect everyone to do that and still stay profitable with their scams"

and I say "fuck their scams"

lmao

[cunning raft]

but i know you don't care about small people just like how you don't care about poor people

[limber knot]

fuck of

[merry talon]

I mean creaters ARE responsible for their own sponsorships, that's part of the reason I don't try to block them because usually they're not horribly scummy and intrusive

ads are different

[mossy vessel]

Some people apparently live in a very delusional world and have a distorted view of things 🥴

[limber knot]

any sponsorship I've ever seen on youtube is scummy

and annoying af

[wide chasm]

Which sponsors do you watch, because the ones I usually get are over a minute long and in the video twice?

[limber knot]

peopel advertising N***VPN or the latest LTT video

[cunning raft]

NordVPN

[limber knot]

or PIA shit

[wide chasm]

Ads aren't too bad, those are usually just ~10 seconds

[limber knot]

There are some sponsors are okay, but there are only few of them

[left swift]

Wait what

[merry talon]

nordvpn sponsorships don't prey on your personal data

[limber knot]

the amount of scam sponsors that get pushed by youtuber's just to make some quick bucks is insane

[merry talon]

or mine monero on your PC

you have the option the press L

you keep using this word 'scam'

I do not think it means what you think it means

[vernal moth]

To be fair, LTT is a company who at least listen to the community

[left swift]

Dont watch shit youtubers then

[limber knot]

it's when you steal money from unsuspecting customers

and if they provide a less than advertised quality service or product it's a scam in my eyes

[vestal jasper]

So you expect everyone to get a sponsor but you admit most youtube sponsors are trash? Do you see the problem with your own arguments?

[ashen cliff]

Daily reminder: https://sponsor.ajay.app/

[cunning raft]

the one thing I'll grant you pheonix is that vpn sponsors are a little provocative

[limber knot]

I don't want them to get sponsors

I want the whales to pay for the content

[left swift]

[limber knot]

as they can and will do for quality content

[cunning raft]

here's the part were he doesn't want poor people to access content because he thinks its shit content

[limber knot]

I know shows that made 50k in a 6 hour live stream

[left swift]

Very interestingly weird take

[limber knot]

just from "donations"

[merry talon]

scamming has a very specific meaning and stretching the words with what your product can do doesn't count lol

[cunning raft]

that was with a call to action phoenix

they don't make near that on regular

[limber knot]

they made that every other week

for multiple years

[vestal jasper]

And then streamers still put ads up on top of sponsors and donations

[vernal moth]

Or get forced by twitch to do so 😂

[limber knot]

because entitled people producint low quality content are greedy af

[left swift]

Most youtubers use ad revenue to pay editors

[merry talon]

man I just don't see how the quality of the content makes a difference whatsoever lmao

[limber knot]

the current advertisement and sponsoring industry enables so much garbage it's insane

[merry talon]

that's subjective

[vestal jasper]

So anyone wanting to make a living off their work and have a stable financial background is greedy and of low quality

Nice

[left swift]

Scammers josh

[limber knot]

that's not what I said

[wide chasm]

My real problem with YouTubers is that they're pushing it way too far. It's understandable that you want revenue and sponsors, ads or donations provide that. But these people don't do just advertisements or sponsors, they do all of them at once.

[vestal jasper]

Ok

[limber knot]

if you produce click bait on youtube or artifical drama then they contribute zero to society

[merry talon]

yeah because of people that use sponsor blocking extensions

[limber knot]

it's not even entertainment

[cunning raft]

well youtube doesn't get money from sponsors, they need to profit somehow

[cunning raft]

by your standards

[left swift]

Yeah stop making money!!!!!

How dare you profit off my entertainment

Eat the rich!

[merry talon]

not even profit

just cover operational costs in a lot of cases

[vestal jasper]

Everyone clickbaits. Everyone wants their content to be seen. Some people lie or pick topics for the sake of clickbaiting. But most keep it sane.

[wide chasm]

It's just that for a viewer that gets insanely annoying very quickly. I didn't start using SponsorBlock just as a fuck you to them, I use it because there are videos which are for 25% of their duration ads and interaction reminders.

[left swift]

Stop watching normie shittubers then

[limber knot]

@vestal jasper good joke

[mental meadow]

When everyone uses clickbait thumbnails you can't not use clickbait thumbnails

[cunning raft]

^

[vestal jasper]

phoenix616 good rebuttal

Goodday

[mental meadow]

LTT made a nice video a few years ago why they started using more clickbaity thumbnails and they showed a lot of numbers

[wide chasm]

I got rid of most of them, SponsorBlock is mainly for interaction reminders for me and the occassional YouTuber who suddenly decides that they also must have sponsors.

[limber knot]

what I mean is click bait which uses fake news/content/drama to trick people into watching/reading it after they were already served ads and the creator made their cut. what happens after that doesn't matter to them, especially not that someone wasted their time or even worse: thought they actually created real content and have now a wrong view on things

[merry talon]

with the content i watch, 99% of the sponsorships are products that I would actually consider paying for

fwiw

and have in the past

[limber knot]

fake news and click bait go hand in hand, show me one person who actually thinks they are good things...

[olive garden]

hot single moms in your area?

[wide chasm]

Most sponsors for me seem to come in bulk. I don't need to hear about NordVPN seven times a day.

[mental meadow]

Honestly I prefer integrated ads over YouTube ads, especially when the youtuber does a good job with them. MapMan for example does hilarious sponsor bits

[ashen cliff]

Daily.

[wide chasm]

Or the new wireless raycon earbuds or whatever

[left swift]

Most content I watch the videos are only made because the sponsor gave them money to pay for it

[merry talon]

yeah this is a good point, they can be entertaining in and of themselves

[left swift]

Integrated ads you hit right arrow 3 times and you can go watch the rest of the video

[limber knot]

well I just let my browser do that automatically ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mental meadow]

Watch a few Jay Foreman videos if you want good integrated ads

[untold copper]

putting custom ringtones on iphone is a pain lol

but so glad I did it

its sounds epic

[wide chasm]

I take YT ads for sponsors any day, cause YT ads are short

[cunning raft]

also yt ads support the creator

[wide chasm]

Even if the sponsor segment is done in an unconventional way, for me I'm still not watching the actual content.

[cunning raft]

stuff like yt premium is also great if you dislike ads

(and want to support the creators)

[mental meadow]

The thing is, yt ads don't pay enough

[spiral robin]

@mental meadow gn

[mental meadow]

gn aber

Uwu

[wide chasm]

With SponsorBlock YT Premium is something worth considering for me. In the past I completely ignored it, because why would I block 10 second ads when I get a one minute sponsor in the video anyway

[ashen cliff]

Back in the day, YouTube ads didn't have a length limit, I once had a 4 hour long ad.

[wide chasm]

I got one of 6 minutes once, but 4 hours is impressive

[left swift]

I've watched a whole ass movie on a youtube ad before I realized I wasn't watching the actual video

[merry talon]

some creators use other platforms where their content excludes the baked in ads, like floatplane

might be a better option than premium

[mental meadow]

In the current landscape you have to get a sponsor. Youtube ads don't pay nearly enough to cover the ridiculous production you now have to have to even get views

[cunning raft]

right

[wide chasm]

I'm not aware of anyone I watch doing that, but that sounds like a good option as well if the creators do that

[cunning raft]

still ads are a good chunk of change

[mental meadow]

If more people support creators via stuff like Patreon they won't need so many sponsors

But since almost everyone is cheap and wants content for free we have to live with sponsors

[cunning raft]

yeah, cgpgrey turns off some types of ads cuz he met a patreon goal

[left swift]

YouTube going down the twitch subscriber route with that super sub or whatever it's called is the future

[cunning raft]

memberships

they've been there for a while

are you thinking of twitter super follows?

[limber knot]

imo YT added that way too late :S

[mental meadow]

But Google takes a ridiculously large cut

[wide chasm]

Patreon is great as support method. Of course, I'm being hypocritical because I don't sponsor anyone I watch, but still.

[left swift]

There was a membership thing for youtube too it was only on livestream channels though I dont remember what it was called

[limber knot]

I should probably directly support some youtubers now that I started watching youtube again 👀

[mental meadow]

I do support some creators on patreon, even if I don't really have spare money for that

[untold copper]

who do you support?

just out of curiosity?

[limber knot]

I just wish more would accept crypto like twitch does ;_;

[mental meadow]

But the reality is that they entertain me & watching their videos helps me, so i try to give a bit back

[wide chasm]

I redstribute half of plugin donations to dependents, good enough for me, even if it's not in YT space

[mental meadow]

Let me check snoopa

[untold copper]

kk

[left swift]

If you really want to support a creator without paying money: you don't cry when they have sponsors

[untold copper]

ooh ok thanks :D

[wide chasm]

Only know CGP Grey from that list

[void void]

im surprised how many people don't know about adblock / ublock origin

[mental meadow]

Or even check out the sponsors, use the affiliate links

[void void]

human stupidity knows no limits

[mental meadow]

Amazon Affiliate links are fucking powerful

[cunning raft]

not knowing about adblock doesn't make you stupid lmfao

[mental meadow]

Interesting pronouns

[cunning raft]

adblock on sites like youtube and twitch is immoral anyway

[void void]

it does if you despise ads

[limber knot]

oof, Tom Scott doesn't take donations?

[wide chasm]

Don't those affiliate links only give them revenue upon purchasing something there?

[cunning raft]

yes

[mental meadow]

Yes and no

[left swift]

So many people equate stupidity to ignorance

[mental meadow]

Amazon Affiliate links will give them acutback for everything for 24h

[merry talon]

ad companies could have their business without forcing me to block them, by not being shitty

[void void]

I guess it's the matter of perspective

[merry talon]

so yeah its immoral but I block those ones anyway

sponsors are different

[mental meadow]

@void void are those your actual pronouns?

[limber knot]

I personally would be more fine with youtube and especially twitch ads if they wouldn't get into the way of the actual content...

[void void]

Yes, are you making a fool of me?

[mental meadow]

Could you please use zhoughst in a sentence?

[void void]

I bought zhoughst bread.

[olive garden]

oh yes, let's switch to discussing pronouns, ads were boring 🍿

[cunning raft]

oh god no

#politics if you must (inb4 phoenix says censorship)

[limber knot]

everything is politics anyways

#paper if you will

runs

[left swift]

Mustn't

[merry talon]

I mean there's a fine line between preferring certain pronouns and just making some up as a joke

runs

[mental meadow]

Neopronouns are a thing

Even if those are a joke

[left swift]

Did discord just die for a second for anyone else

[untold copper]

no

[merry talon]

There's no way you can have dysphoria towards being something other than some made up word

they'll never make sense to me

[mental meadow]

dysphoria doesn't make sense at all tbh

[olive garden]

you bringing this topic up doesn't make sense at all tbh

[limber knot]

Pronoums don't make sense at all tbh

[cunning raft]

[left swift]

Anyways sponsors

[limber knot]

If only there was a world where I could refer everything and everyone as `this

[untold copper]

oh cool my keyboard color syncs to my game sounds

[minor badge]

that's dope

[left swift]

That brings us to today's discord sponsor: slack

[mental meadow]

I'm gonna refer to groups of people as "everypony" from now on exclusively

[untold copper]

ikr

[wide chasm]

Good idea, I'll join you aurora

[limber knot]

👀

[wide chasm]

Phoenix would enjoy that as well I think

Yeah, see

[mental meadow]

Snoopa check out Project Aurora, it's pretty epic for rgb keyboards and stuff

[limber knot]

I actually had to correct myself a couple times when I was deep in the mlp fandom when meaning to say "everyone" lol

[wide chasm]

Oh no, you actually participated in that

Even I didn't get that far

[limber knot]

ofc

[wide chasm]

I watched six seasons and five movies just for FiM++

[mental meadow]

Even if it pains me to say that: same

[merry talon]

wait but, 'everyone' doesn't incorporate any pronoun

you can call a group of animals everyone

[untold copper]

epic, thanks

[merry talon]

how does that work

[limber knot]

I'm still sad that the fandom is dying but I guess that's what happens if a show runs that long and eventually stops

[mental meadow]

But the music was epic

[limber knot]

I have to admit that I haven't even watched all of it yet lol

[wide chasm]

The music is the worst part tbh

[limber knot]

yeah, the music that came out of it is the best :D

[wide chasm]

Fucking hell the intro it pained me every time I heared that

[mental meadow]

Like the fan made music

That stuff was epic

Like the living tombstones old songs

[limber knot]

Archie and Aviators are still my favorite artists that came out of it

oh and also OhPonyBoy, they make pretty interesting electronic music

[wide chasm]

At least I watched the movies and never have to return to those again

[olive garden]

why do you watch stuff that you hate?

[limber knot]

most started distancing themselves from the Brony fandom though and tend to make their own/gaming music now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMNiC8zK8xU

[ashen cliff]

Why not?

[mental meadow]

Because we hate ourself even more

[wide chasm]

Movies usually don't state up front "don't watch me, I'm terrible"

[limber knot]

thank god everthing about MLP is awesome

runs

[wide chasm]

The series is actually okay for the most part, the movies, though, my god

[sand epoch]

https://pages.awscloud.com/pi-week-2021.html

[ashen cliff]

True.

[limber knot]

(or well, technically MLP:FiM)

[wide chasm]

If only the series had a continuous plot line and wasn't for 75% filler stories that don't tie into any plot whatsoever

[limber knot]

yeah

that's why I read fanfics lol

the amount of content available there with proper stories is insane

[wide chasm]

I... I... I don't even want to know

[limber knot]

(and you actually get mature/graphic stuff and proper fight scenes lol)

[wide chasm]

I've come across a bit of fanfiction (not mlp), but it's always terrible

Most of the time I seriously doubt if any effort was even put in

[limber knot]

imo the HP and MLP fandoms can write some pretty well stuff

[mental meadow]

Yes, fanfiction

[untold copper]

project aurora looks pog

[limber knot]

but of course there is tons of garbage lol

[mental meadow]

It's pretty epic snoopa

[untold copper]

yes

[mental meadow]

I've been using it for over a year now

[untold copper]

i shall install it and try it uwu

hehe

[mental meadow]

Plus it works with different manufacturers so you can use logitech and corsair together for example

[wide chasm]

Most of the stuff I found couldn't even write a normal sentence, so I just hope whatever you read is better than that

[mental meadow]

And it has a epic name

[untold copper]

lol my keyboard lights just went out

I assume it overrides logitech G hub then

[mental meadow]

Yeah

[limber knot]

https://phoenix616.dev/📷/gkHNC3KF.png 👀

[mental meadow]

Phoenix check out tapakapa

He makes videos in the style of cgp grey but in austrian

It's pretty funny

[limber knot]

oof, non-native speaker

[untold copper]

aurora, which brand keyboard do you use?

[limber knot]

sorry, for some reason I can't stand non-native english lol

[mental meadow]

I have a Corsair k68 i think and a logitech mouse

[limber knot]

it kinda hurts my ears

[mental meadow]

Watch his austrian videos, Not the English ones

https://youtu.be/9zRVTXD2yZ4

[untold copper]

corsair

i want one of those

[worn ember]

having to rewrite the entire email system of this app is no fun

[limber knot]

oof, non native-german speakers

runs

[worn ember]

imagine speaking german

[wide chasm]

Is Austrian different from German, cause I don't recognise what he's saying at all

Unless my German really has become this bad over the years

[limber knot]

it's more like a German dialect with some special words

[ashen cliff]

I somehow still understand it.

[mental meadow]

Yeah

A pretty heavy dialect

[ashen cliff]

Can't speak German anymore tho.

[mental meadow]

Like bavarian but way worse

[limber knot]

and bavarian isn't even german already

runs

(says the saxon)

[novel horizon]

free game on Steam Metro 2033 ^^ https://store.steampowered.com/app/43110/Metro_2033/

[untold copper]

nyc

[mental meadow]

Phoenix are you from Sachsen

[untold copper]

aurora now my keyboard refuses to light up tho 😂

[limber knot]

well I'm born here but both parts of my family isn't so I have a pretty light dialect xD

[mental meadow]

Snoopa you have to set it up properly

[wide chasm]

I think I see some words that are similar to what they probably mean in German, but I'm having a hard time with this.

[mental meadow]

that explains a lot

[untold copper]

yeah working on it

wait I think its lit up

but so faintly

[limber knot]

it does?

[untold copper]

welp aurora is cool

I'll use it later though

thanks a lot :3

[limber knot]

mfw

java.io.UnsupportedEncodingException: "utf-8"

wth

[minor badge]

capitals, mini

[limber knot]

no

better

[olive garden]

without the hyphen?

[limber knot]

nope

basically, am dispatcher this week and somebody had the audacity that to claim MY (!) service has a bug (as if I would ever write code that isn't 100% flawless, smh)

I send them back this: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/4e4f631f5da0433c8f87fd97c0ceec65

and a "Have fund hunting down those quotes :P"

[olive garden]

lmao

[limber knot]

(totally didnt google for 15 minutes to find that)

lol

[worn ember]

isnt C# amazing

[left swift]

No

[worn ember]

[left swift]

[worn ember]

[vernal moth]

Lmfao

https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001318605/000156459021012981/tsla-8k_20210315.htm

"Effective as of March 15, 2021, the titles of Elon Musk and Zach Kirkhorn have changed to Technoking of Tesla and Master of Coin, respectively. Elon and Zach will also maintain their respective positions as Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial Officer."

[cunning raft]

[vernal moth]

He's such a savage

[cunning raft]

fuckin trolls

[vernal moth]

Can't wait to see news papers use that as his offical title in reports now, "here's what's tesla's master of coin, zach Kirkhorn, had to say about tesla's recent rise on stock markets: stonks 📈"

[worn ember]

"Technoking of Tesla, Elon Musk, has announced that he dabs on dem haters"

[vernal moth]

In other news, java 16 📈

https://tschatzl.github.io/2021/03/12/jdk16-g1-parallel-gc-changes.html

[ashen cliff]

So not much just like with 14 and 15?

[vernal moth]

https://youtu.be/K0vSnjJy72Q

[wide chasm]

Ugh records will be out of preview in Java 16

[vernal moth]

Til europol has a youtube channel

[wide chasm]

At least we will also have instanceof pattern matching then

[vernal moth]

And they found a submarine used to smuggle drugs in spain

[ashen cliff]

Epic.

Actually epic.

[vernal moth]

I still think only reason the europe tesla giga factory is in Berlin is so musk has an excuse to fly over to go raving in Berghain 😂

[mental meadow]

Edgy musk needs attention

[worn ember]

🙄

[ashen cliff]

AMD going all out I see: https://posili.me/i/2021-03-15_16-18-34.png

[vernal moth]

But it's fun ^^

Hes just making fun of the sec cause they trying to sue again

He got enough attention anyways, faa just cleared sn11 flight!

So maybe tomorrow?

[zealous wedge]

elon musk is just an edgelord lol

[vernal moth]

They also announced that sn20 will be the first orbital flight and they wanna made that happen in July

[mental meadow]

I don't like him

[vernal moth]

Before that we will see sn15, 16 and 17

Musk is just an edgy nerd with fun toys, let him play, he's advancing humankind while at it

[zealous wedge]

advancing is a subjective measure really

[woven otter]

but but why

[zealous wedge]

what's to like tbh?

[left swift]

His looks

[mental meadow]

read enough of his bullshit on Twitter

[zealous wedge]

the closest thing he has to a positive side is spending money on things and hiring talented engineers who put up with his bullshit

[minor badge]

"advancing humankind" lol

i ain't seeing no irl catgirls, so no steps have been taken forwards

[olive garden]

👀

[woven otter]

ehh my view of him changed a bit after i watched few of videos about him

well mostly the tech part

[zealous wedge]

tweet that @elon

[vernal moth]

He has good and bad sides just like any other human 🤷‍♂️

[spare venture]

What videos duck

[left swift]

No twitter say only bad

[vernal moth]

I just cheer on spacex and tesla, and since he's still on of the brains behind that, i cheer him too

[limber knot]

Twitter bad

[vernal moth]

Anyways, the first orbital Launch of starship will be so cool, if he manages that in early q3, that would be amazing

[woven otter]

the ones by thunderfoot and common sense skeptic basically

[vernal moth]

Then the first human flight for 2023 doesn't seem that insane

[left swift]

Duck is fake news

[woven otter]

flight to mars?

[vernal moth]

No, just a short 6 day stroll around the moon

[spare venture]

All billionaires are bad eat the rich

[quasi valley]

I think every day without that is a step forward

[minor badge]

WTF

kenny

😠

[woven otter]

yeah that doesn't sound too far fetched

[minor badge]

😔

[vernal moth]

We talking about humankind after all, not catmankind

[jade flax]

oh my

[minor badge]

it is not a step forwards if humankind has not created catgirlkind

it is the natural next step in our evolution

[quasi valley]

every day we stray further from god

[jade flax]

and closer to the bag

[vernal moth]

What if there is already a secret cat girl society and they just didn't invite you?

[minor badge]

WTF toxic

[spare venture]

Furries are already a thing

[woven otter]

idk what cat girls are but sounds like something furries or weebs would like

[quasi valley]

someone like leaf for sure

[woven otter]

for sure

[spare venture]

In high school there was a small group of people that wore tails

[vernal moth]

🔥 🍂

[spare venture]

They would bark at people

[limber knot]

what the hell?

[spare venture]

Is that the type of shit you want proxi

[jade flax]

I sometimes lurk in this channel, reading some interesting conversations.... today it has taken a turn for the worst

[spare venture]

Because I don’t

[limber knot]

Humanity has some really serious issues?

[vernal moth]

Let them play 🤷‍♂️

[woven otter]

it happens every couple of days

[quasi valley]

should have told them schools usually dont allow animals

[spare venture]

No we must re-educate them

[vernal moth]

As long as they don't start licking me, i allow them to exist 😂

[minor badge]

yes please barty

[jade flax]

fair enough

[quasi valley]

let's build the usual "re-education centers"

[spare venture]

This convo has brought back painful memories of having to see someone wear a tail and bark at people

[vernal moth]

I volunteer, germany efficiency back at work!

Wait

[spare venture]

I had pushed those way to the far back

[vernal moth]

Good night dreams barty!

Ne careful they don't bite into your tail!

Be*

[quasi valley]

next time you see a dog you'll just get ptsd

[spare venture]

I don’t have one

A tail

Yeah I should join the r/dogfree subreddit

[vernal moth]

Someone didn't get the joke

[limber knot]

Beware, the germans are a bit strange

[vernal moth]

Or maybe his tail isn't long enough to be noticed 🤔 😂

[spare venture]

😳

[jade flax]

party has a tail confirmed

[spare venture]

This is troubling news

[worn ember]

daily furry conversation

[jade flax]

sorry bud, had to be done

[spare venture]

ded ur a furry

@static badge so r u

[limber knot]

whoa, pinging people at random

[worn ember]

such a furry thing to do

[spare venture]

[worn ember]

[spare venture]

[wide chasm]

Well this channel was a mistake

[limber knot]

yes, yes it was

[quasi valley]

the irc channel for sure

[limber knot]

correct

[spare venture]

Kenny I have to agree with you

[limber knot]

Why did you people think that this was a good idea?

[wide chasm]

Ask Z, he always makes such mistakes

[spare venture]

He did say it could potentially get shut off soon

Due to discord threads and stuff

!stats

[limber knot]

Uptime: 7 days, 9 hours, 26 minutes, 15 seconds
Message Handling: 2ms / 0ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 77295 (5.759%)
Messages from Discord: 1264895 (94.24%)

[spare venture]

You’re really losing the war anyway

[limber knot]

Meh

Given that there are only 40 users online here at IRC HQ it's still impressive

[spare venture]

I would say most of those are bot messages?

Bot sends a message every time a forum post is made, a build is made, commit, issue, comment on issue, etc

[upper flicker]

hmm?

forum posts are direct to discord

builds dont get a message anymore unless they fail

commits, issues, comments are direct to discord

the main bot you could argue about would be korobi and the interactive ones

[ashen cliff]

I remember Party saying people hate him for no reason, I think I'm starting to see why.

[limber knot]

THe only instance where bots sends anything is commands

[upper flicker]

we would ofc have to replace those though because who could do without such amazing commands as

.tacos

[limber knot]

🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮

[wide chasm]

Truly the peak of mankind

[spare venture]

Well Z how would I know that

[upper flicker]

you wouldnt inherently

I dont understand why you'd think all webhooks are either though

[spare venture]

I knew that Korobi and such were from irc bots

[upper flicker]

anyway, I was just clarifying

[spare venture]

Mainly because I didn’t think 77k messages came from irc users in the past 7 days, seemed suuuper inflated, so I was trying to come up with explanations

[upper flicker]

the message counts are persistent, not limited to the current uptime

[limber knot]

could be all time stats

[spare venture]

Ah that makes sense then

[upper flicker]

77k messages in a week would entirely make it worth keeping, even if it was just 5% lol

[spare venture]

Seemed very high

[upper flicker]

but yeah if discord adds threading we may just get rid of it - there's not a great way to bridge that conceptually to irc

if discord makes it optional or per-channel we could still keep it around for some stuff

[spare venture]

Well that makes sense as it used to be around 7-10% and most of the irc guys stopped using it , were banned, or left

[upper flicker]

IRC hasnt grown either, discord is at 5x of what it used to be

[spare venture]

It’s because you changed servers!

[limber knot]

what is even changing at discord?

[upper flicker]

still worth it

[spare venture]

I believe you can start a thread where people can have side conversations in the same channel

It opens a new window with the discussion

[limber knot]

That is like a super strange feature

But I guess, discord isn't IRC and people can't create channels at will for that

[upper flicker]

its not entirely clear how widely deployed it'll be yet, but yes it appears they're adding slack/teams type conversation threads

whether itll be per-channel options or forced or what

[quasi valley]

definitely not "strange" if it's going to be sanely done, like slack or something

[upper flicker]

I think its a stupid feature on all those other platforms too

[limber knot]

Never used anything outside of IRC, Discord and Internet Forums, so yeah, it'll be something new for me

However it makes me feel as if it was a support forum, as that is perhaps the only place where one would need that, outside of super active discords

[quasi valley]

why's that? I always found it handy replying to an "important" message without cluttering the actual channel it's in

[upper flicker]

because it still has the same issues, threads inevitably scroll of screen and then people just make new ones

and it ruins the channel flow

[quasi valley]

often used that in a team announcement, absence notice, or bugs channel

[upper flicker]

it works fine in small groups, work environments, etc. I dont like it much there either but at least I get it

[limber knot]

It's the same like switching a convo to a new channel, it often breaks it appart

[upper flicker]

but for something like #paper-help I would be shocked if it gets used well

too many new threads, too many new users coming in

[quasi valley]

hmm yeah indeed, but I definitely think it has good use in those smaller groups/teams

[spare venture]

Paper help would be the perfect place for it if used right?

But it won’t be used right

[upper flicker]

it would be if the volume was lower

imo

[limber knot]

Don't underestimate the intelligence of a human when it comes to using a feature in a way it wasn't intended to be used

[upper flicker]

but I guess we'll see

that will be the place it'd make the most sense - so we'd likely try it

[wide chasm]

Hopefully Discord allows them to be disabled, cause otherwise it'll be a shitshow

[ashen cliff]

It's Discord.

It's going to be a shitshow anyway.

[wide chasm]

True, but maybe we'll get an option a couple months down the line

You know, when all damage has already been done

[ashen cliff]

Default to on.

[limber knot]

Better in a few months than never

[wide chasm]

krusic don't joke like that, it scares me

[ashen cliff]

You know I'm most likely right.

[wide chasm]

That's why it's even scarier

[limber knot]

Can confirm

[peak ginkgo]

They'll come with a toggle at the channel level

Like NSFW

[zealous wedge]

put threads as the same toggle as nsfw

[limber knot]

I don't understand the NSFW toggle

[peak ginkgo]

it either makes a channel nsfw or it doesnt

[quasi valley]

it's so people can make channels to post hentai in

[peak ginkgo]

An NSFW channel's users have to pass an age gate

If you don't it'll just not show you the text part of that channel

[limber knot]

Like, people are going to lie about their age either way, what's stoppping them from getting that?

[peak ginkgo]

it does a good enough job

It's abt liability

[zealous wedge]

if they lie, that's on them

[peak ginkgo]

Discord has to be trying

[zealous wedge]

if discord doesn't check, it's on discord

[limber knot]

Lmao

[peak ginkgo]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000084051-NSFW-Channels-and-Content

found it

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-03-15_17-25-17.png

I remember how stupid that was.

[limber knot]

Donno, appears to do the trick if it is there

[ashen cliff]

If you clicked on any NSFW channel, you were forced to enter your birthday.
If > 18, no issue.
If < 18, locked out till you send them your ID.

[limber knot]

However it would be too much work if the people are all having to get verified

And then the legal system also does not really like jokes

[ashen cliff]

What they actually did was force kids to send their IDs.

Or forced them to lie about their age to not get blocked.

Like all you had to add was a: I'm under 18 and I don't want to see NSFW channels. K thx see ya.

[waxen panther]

b r o ?

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

[limber knot]

I wonder though, if I were to say that I was born in 2008, would I be able to access NSFW channels in 2026 without having to send them my ID?

[vernal moth]

I wonder if there is a way to stop my wifi AP from spamming my logs

[ashen cliff]

They store your age, so yes?

[left swift]

Fact

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/Nk8evhN.png

[ashen cliff]

Like it was super epic, because you could just do Hey CHECK OUT #music and bam, forced to enter info.

[vernal moth]

its pinging my app on 8080 because it thinks its a ubiquity unify controller 😂

[vernal moth]

I clicked on the channel and saw, not disappointed 😄

[ashen cliff]

Epic.

[left swift]

[stiff yarrow]

Doom butt

[limber knot]

Question is, is now #paper NSFW too because of that screenshot?

[ashen cliff]

Perhaps.

[vernal moth]

its removed in discord 😉

and irc is always nsfw

its irc

[left swift]

IRC is nsfl

[limber knot]

I mean, IRC has the secret channels, those are extra spicy I heard

[left swift]

Krusic wall

[ashen cliff]

I still don't get why they changed deleting, but then their support still doesn't acknowledge it.

[limber knot]

what changed?

[ashen cliff]

Before if you deleted anything, it was perma gone, including images.
They changed it, so that everything just gets hidden, so images stay active on the deleted link.

But, they still claim that anything deleted is gone forever.

So you can't use it as proof.

[limber knot]

I have heard that some people use it as a CDN

[ashen cliff]

I used it for amplification attacks, but they don't consider that amplification attacks. So I'm still here. Alive and somehow not banned.

[limber knot]

But I did not know that it was once different, although the normal user will not see the difference I suppose

Oo, krusic is a hacker

[ashen cliff]

Hacker.

Nah, just saw them being lazy with their CDN... so you know.

[limber knot]

That's what hackers do

[ashen cliff]

We don't share the same definition then.

[left swift]

Krusic is a bad boy

[limber knot]

I have no idea about half the terms you used and because it contains the word "attack" it must be something bad

[left swift]

Hug attack

[ashen cliff]

Even their support didn't. Their response was the most stupid rambling I probably ever received.

It's not an amplification attack, because those only exist with DNS servers.

[limber knot]

Ah, media.discordapp.net is not a CDN

[peak ginkgo]

media.discordapp.net is a proxy

cdn.discordapp.com is the CDN

[limber knot]

But why are emojis linked to the cdn one and attachments to the media one?

[ashen cliff]

Did you know, you could chain them infinitely back in the day?

[peak ginkgo]

They're all on CDN

hold on

[visual egret]

that would hurt

[ashen cliff]

[peak ginkgo]

[ashen cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/674093681904713729.png?v=1

CDN.

[peak ginkgo]

cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/743485452321030246.png?v=1

random su icon

cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/821062372621942804/SU_Zoom_BG10.jpg

cdn again

You may be getting things through the media proxy for like

Sizing

because that's what the media proxy does

[limber knot]

Ah

[peak ginkgo]

resizing/file extension changes

[limber knot]

Yeah, that makes sense

[peak ginkgo]

https://u.dejay.dev/🛢🐐🎛.png

[ashen cliff]

And that's the cool part.

[peak ginkgo]

://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/glMyh38LanAB3XwZVgpTmmduoUrnd5XoZ8Kp31zvjSY/https/u.dejay.dev/%25F0%259F%259B%25A2%25F0%259F%2590%2590%25F0%259F%258E%259B.png?width=283&height=300

Emoji names dont translate well on mediaproxy

images-ext is their spider for images relinked on discord that need to run through the Media Proxy

[ashen cliff]

Media proxy is probably the most broken thing they ever implemented.

[peak ginkgo]

And we love it

https://github.com/discord/lilliput

This is the thing that runs the mediaproxy behind the scenes

[ashen cliff]

🤔 Looking at the change log, I assume the whole thing isn't public.

[cunning raft]

gradle plugin repo down for anyone else?

actually, looks like jcenter

https://twitter.com/bintray/status/1371487185850015750

JFrog Bintray (@bintray)

[status] Investigating: We are currently investigating this issue https://t.co/Q0c71rXmPd

Twitter · Mar 15, 2021, 3:43 PM

ah

[vernal moth]

good reminder to nuke jcenter from your build jroy

cause its going away

[zealous wedge]

can't though, gradle plugin portal still depends on it

[cunning raft]

yeah I would if i could

jgit is still on jcenter ig

[zealous wedge]

jgit is on central, grgit is on jcenter

i'm working on a replacement for grgit that will be in indra 2.0.0, but it's very untested at the moment

[cunning raft]

👀

[olive garden]

TIL thanks for the info guys

I totally didn't write FYI instead of TIL by mistake

[waxen panther]

god

zml is so epic

[zealous wedge]

no u

[waxen panther]

[ashen cliff]

[vernal moth]

epyc

[vernal bone]

Hello! Does anyone knows what blocks can I place kelp on?

Working on a water design enchant room, but I'm not sure if dirt or sand is the block where I can place the kelp to

[formal turret]

doesn't it have to be underwater

[visual egret]

it has to be in water

[vernal moth]

its on youtube, so no

dont even need to click it to know, lmao

[olive marlin]

Given that it was also posted earlier in #memes, I second Mini's opinion without having to open it.

[upper flicker]

it isnt a good guide

a good guide would have the full song, show rick astley the respect he deserves

song is great

[woven otter]

this one is the best guide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-51AfyMqnpI

[cunning raft]

nah this ones better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1YBv2mWll0

fuckin embeds

why do they just not show at random

[worn ember]

perma ban

[quasi valley]

absolute tricksters

[vernal moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTga41r3a4s

his voice is much nicer nowadays

[woven otter]

or this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt7bzxurJ1I

[vernal moth]

also, this is the proper rick roll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sik_gQ-tHHc

[visual egret]

Why tf does obs look so bad compared to shadowplay

[vernal moth]

because your settings are wrong

[visual egret]

anything im doing wrong?

[next frost]

yes

[twin lagoon]

probably low bitrate

[vernal moth]

I dont even have cqp

I have cbr

[warm anchor]

@visual egret if I wanna be picky I will say use a different drive location to store recording unless you have a lot of RAM for OBS to serve as buffer

[spare venture]

What made you choose mkv

[visual egret]

also figured i would share this

[visual egret]

defaults

[ashen cliff]

Constant bit-rate = life.

[vernal moth]

does somebody know if ssh urls support passwords?

[void void]

I stream at 1080x60fps with 3200 bitrate 😬

[vernal moth]

like ssh://user:pass@host, does that work?

[ashen cliff]

AFAIK it shouldn't allow passwords.

[visual egret]

i dont think they do

[vernal moth]

urg

[visual egret]

actually no

i remember using some tool

[ashen cliff]

There is a tool on Linux that allows you to pass the password, if you can't use keys.

But yeah, use keys.

[visual egret]

theres plink

https://www.ssh.com/ssh/putty/putty-manuals/0.68/Chapter7.html

[vernal bone]

Ended up with this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/448542668281085973/821084821165047838/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/448542668281085973/821084531854671872/unknown.png

Thank you for the help ^_^

[visual egret]

nice

[spare venture]

keys make me happy

[worn ember]

Hot

[visual egret]

party what did you mean by constant bitrate

[spare venture]

I didn’t mention that

[visual egret]

oh nvm that was krusic

[ashen cliff]

Actually, it was Mini.

[spare venture]

But a constant bit rate means that the quality will be constant

[visual egret]

you said something about formats; which one would you use

[spare venture]

Don’t u dare doubt me

[ashen cliff]

No. The bitrate will be constant.

[void void]

I don’t use nvenc to encode. Turns to shit when using it with nvida broadcast, GeForce experience, and dlss active.

[spare venture]

Use whatever format you want, mkv is just a container

I think

[visual egret]

these all look pretty meh to me

[olive marlin]

https://linux.die.net/man/1/sshpass

[vernal moth]

issue is, I need it as part of an env var, lol

[spare venture]

They’re just containers, they won’t have an impact on much iirc

[vernal moth]

Ill just try to use keys

[ashen cliff]

Use MKV if you can't afford to loose data.

[spare venture]

Just use the most universal one

[ashen cliff]

Since MP4 is a pain to recover in most cases.

[dull basin]

Looks like end gateway teleport location is weird in paper. It always teleports me to the edge of paltform near gateway. Is it already reported?

[ashen cliff]

Anyway I just use this: https://posili.me/i/2021-03-15_19-29-11.png

[spare venture]

20Mbps, wowee

Bitna

[visual egret]

i usually use 10mbps for my videos

[worn ember]

No.

[ashen cliff]

Recording to a NAS.

[void void]

I lag with 3200kbps 🥲

[spare venture]

Which Balkan language is that

[visual egret]

wtf does Kakovost translate to

[ashen cliff]

I'm surprised no one noticed GPU 1 yet.

[spare venture]

It translates to Croatia sux

[visual egret]

idk what gpu does

[ashen cliff]

@upbeat lagoon bro!

SerboSlovenskoHrvašćina bro!

It specifies what GPU to do the encoding on.

[spare venture]

Jk Croatia is the good guys, Serbia is bad guys

[visual egret]

do you guys upscale your sources? im recording a window thats fully maximised but not fullscreen so idk if i should just use this in filters

[warm anchor]

Don’t need scaling of YT support your current redo natively

Look at doc

[worn ember]

git gud

[warm anchor]

Tfw ded washed up Dota streamer

[spare venture]

Avg 0 viewers

[mental meadow]

gonna get me a vtuber avatar and start streaming league or overwatch watch me

[vernal moth]

"Host key verification failed"

urg

[spare venture]

Oh like codemiko?

[warm anchor]

I will watch

[visual egret]

that would be very interesting

[mental meadow]

now just need some artist to start simping me and making it for free

[visual egret]

iirc if you have a windows system or an old mac system you can create an avatar using Adobe Fuse and then use some other 3d software to do more detailed stuff

[waxen panther]

ah yes

just make an avatar

[spiral robin]

[visual egret]

fuse has lots of presets

its like lego bricks but you make humans instead of buildings

[olive marlin]

If it's so easy, then why does basic avatars, without rigging etc, cost like 200$?
And with rigging and basic movements easily go to a thousand.

[unreal pike]

would i be better off running a server on 5800x or 5900x?

[twin lagoon]

for most use cases 5800x will be fine

selfhosting is a waste of money

[unreal pike]

im not self hosting, im renting a dedi

[twin lagoon]

where does one find a 5800x at reasonable locations

[unreal pike]

locations?

well there's nexril and byteania

[visual egret]

well its limited but its pretty simple and easy, it worked for a few things for me

[twin lagoon]

do you expect EU players

[unreal pike]

not many

but thye have a location in london

[twin lagoon]

byteania probably just resells nexril

[unreal pike]

no they have their own stuff

[visual egret]

i dont know the difference between a professional rig and one made in fuse but it works

[unreal pike]

they took picture and showed me

[mental meadow]

and a voice i actually like tbh

[unreal pike]

they use sx8200 pro for storage and have 3200mhz ram, nexril is 2400mhz i think and 980 pros

[twin lagoon]

byteania just screams mcmarket host to me

and mcmarket is pepega

[unreal pike]

yea

[twin lagoon]

not a host i'd be hosting my servers with tbh

[unreal pike]

but they do have 2 sysadmins that i know are very good

i cant really get a 5000 series anywhere else

[twin lagoon]

i mean do you need a 5000 series

i've run all of my servers on e2288g's without too many issues

[worn ember]

still guuder than u

[unreal pike]

i got 30 players 70 plugins and alot of worlds

maybe i just suck at optimizing server but i wanna play it safe

[twin lagoon]

you can easily host it on a normal host then

[unreal pike]

a 5800x is only like $40 more expensive than 3800x anyway

[twin lagoon]

yeah but you can't get a 3800x at a reasonable host either lmao

[unreal pike]

shared hosting?

OVh has a 3800x

game-2 i think

[twin lagoon]

it's not worth using over their infra-2

[unreal pike]

oh fr?

[worn ember]

michelle dropping bombs again

[twin lagoon]

doesn't have private bandwidth / vrack

and you'd probably want faster memory for ryzen at that price

[unreal pike]

3200mhz isnt enough?

[twin lagoon]

it's not 3200

[unreal pike]

i meant the earlier host

[twin lagoon]

3200mhz is fine yes

[unreal pike]

what are the important questions i should be asking byteania/nexril?

all their equipment looks good

[twin lagoon]

the hardware is probably fine

[unreal pike]

and byteania said theyll give me 10gbps networking or whatever although i dont think that does anything

[twin lagoon]

i just don't trust byteania & nexril doesn't have an attractive datacenter location

central US is horrible

[warm anchor]

[unreal pike]

they just released tampa florida

[warm anchor]

It’s actually the worse place you can pick

[twin lagoon]

that's still horrible

[warm anchor]

In terms of routing

[unreal pike]

what's a good location?

[twin lagoon]

NYC / US East

[warm anchor]

Anything established north east

People from USW will still have sub 100 ms

[twin lagoon]

it's the perfect location for US & EU

[unreal pike]

most of my player are actually in us east

[worn ember]

wut

[twin lagoon]

then you'd want us east

[unreal pike]

my server right now is in beauharnois which is right above new york i think

[twin lagoon]

yes

[worn ember]

how is US east good for eu

[unreal pike]

closer to europe

[twin lagoon]

latency

closer to europe yes

[worn ember]

[olive marlin]

Michale

[twin lagoon]

yes

113ms

[olive garden]

select russia too

good ping

I'm sure you will love it

[worn ember]

i did, but i can only select 3 regions, so it greys out the other

[warm anchor]

Your ping sucks

[worn ember]

yup

[warm anchor]

I got 4 ms to USE

Lmao

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

[worn ember]

30ms is my min tbh

[warm anchor]

@twin lagoon

[woven otter]

Select wuhan maybe you will get corona or smth

[worn ember]

im immune

[twin lagoon]

reselling reliablesite

[magic river]

I wonder how often DCs in Florida go down due to storms

[unreal pike]

oh yeah storms

game-2 only has Hillsboro

infra-2 has alot of locations

[twin lagoon]

infra-2

[unreal pike]

u think thats my best bet for an SMP?

[twin lagoon]

more than plenty

probably overkill

[unreal pike]

wow ok

what do u do to tolerate villager hubs and redstone farms?

those have been a problem

[twin lagoon]

farmlimiter

redstone isn't too much of an issue for me

just villagers

[magic river]

Turn them off, basically

[unreal pike]

Redstone farms are a major issue on my server for whatever reason

[olive marlin]

Game1 is overkill for my smp + creative, but my players always consider lag when doing stuff, at least most of them.

[unreal pike]

I worldedited half of them out and i still get tps drops

How many players/plugins do u guys have?

[magic river]

Do you mean a farm that uses redstone like pistons on reeds or something?

[unreal pike]

i have some heavy plugins like dungeonsXL and realisticworldgenerator

[unreal pike]

yea auto plant farms

[magic river]

Not really anything you can do with that except find the big ones and delete them

[twin lagoon]

could limit redstone stuff with the Insights plugin

[unreal pike]

rip

[magic river]

I don't think the optimized redstone stuff ever got ported to 1.16

[twin lagoon]

it is

eigencraft redstone is back

[unreal pike]

thanks ill try that out

so infra-2 it is then

will be an improvement over game-1 or about the same?

[twin lagoon]

if you've already got a game-1

i don't think i'd upgrade from a game-1 at that playercount

the 3600 should handle 30 players with ease

[unreal pike]

maybe i just need to look over things again

i dont wanna completely ban farms but most players have at least 1

[magic river]

Make them smaller 😛

[unreal pike]

and sometimes i ge ttps drops at like 15-20 players because of redstone

so player count probably isnt even the problem

[magic river]

Players always want to build a farm big enough to give them all the items they need every 5 minutes

Make them build one that takes an hour instead

[unreal pike]

ok

[magic river]

Need wool? Better than 20 of each color so you can always get a ton of whatever color you want

[unreal pike]

im not experienced with redstone so i dont think i can even tell

[magic river]

Yeah no, 1 of each color

Or just dye them as needed

[unreal pike]

ill probably outright ban farms cuz we jumped from 30/mo shared to $110/mo dedi to tolerate it

[magic river]

Or make them use communal farms

[unreal pike]

yeah thats a good idea

[unreal pike]

should i move my location on game-1?

or is beauharnois fine

[twin lagoon]

beauharnois is more than fine

[unreal pike]

ok cool

[spare venture]

BHS is a great data center, very good record with fires

[mental meadow]

this is not a marketplace

[woven otter]

oh no

[red imp]

but nobody can find it for free 😅

I've asked on bunch of supports

and nobody discovered the source

[mental meadow]

There are a lot of places to hire people, not this discord.

[red imp]

but the best to search people who will help discover this is on the discord probably

[mental meadow]

@vernal moth LoL instead of hangar?

[woven otter]

hangar

[vernal moth]

sure, am done for today anyways

[mental meadow]

epic

[vernal moth]

successfully nuked the staging db

and restored it from an old "backup"

and we fixed new staging

[mighty storm]

tf is LoL

[olive marlin]

League of Lags

[vernal moth]

german name for league

[mental meadow]

League of Lol

[vernal moth]

league of draven https://i.imgur.com/Yc9SbX8.png

[mental meadow]

mom i'm on tv

[vernal moth]

aurora confirmed cat lady https://i.imgur.com/ngWAbps.png

[mental meadow]

nyaa~

[fallen oracle]

Might place Silver 2 here shortly.

[lyric dome]

@twin lagoon Owch, gotta insulte byteania like that 😦

[twin lagoon]

it's mcmarket what do you expect

[lyric dome]

MCMemekit?

😮

[void void]

Hi

[lyric dome]

Anyway, back to what I'm here for. ByteAnia don't resell nexril. We own our own servers hosted in Hivelocity for Dallas, NYC and Tampa. We also have servers in India and soon to have some in London.

[woven otter]

what is this