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worn ember
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bruh

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no preview then ig

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good show non the less

vernal moth
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There is preview

worn ember
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hm not for me

visual egret
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not for me either

left slate
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yeah mind if you provide research papers confirming this theory?

vernal moth
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Thankfully android got a working permission system so an app can't just access whatever it wants, lol

visual egret
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but ur fine with the american companies harvesting it right

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looks at android

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looks at google

vernal moth
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Look at it, what do you see?

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Man, ppl are paranoid

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Just because you think google tracks everything that doesn't make it truwb

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They are really transparent with what they collect and you can easily view it

visual egret
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fair

vernal moth
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One might argue more than any other company

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And like everything got a toggle

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You don't want google to know where you are? Turn that off. But then features like location history obviously get disabled too

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Google uses your data to give you features

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Google photos is a good example of that

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They analyse all your pictures so make them searchable, group them by the persons in the photos, etc

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(the face detection even works with pets, really cool)

visual egret
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yeah google photos is neat

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ios photos app has a similar feature but its still pretty underpowered

vernal moth
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Balkan Spinner?

twin lagoon
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balkan jenkins

visual egret
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Balkan HTML programmer

worn ember
ashen cliff
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Bro.

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I have no idea what kind of crack Jenkins is smoking, but it's got to be good.

worn ember
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they hed be spinnin

tropic flame
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I just got to watch

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this video right now

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and I'm laughing

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"Dinnerbone, I lead the armies of the PVP community! We demand to know how this will affect PVP!!"

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THAT JAB AT THE 1.8 PLAYERS IS AMAZING

worn ember
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wait so you need your transaction id to migrate?

tropic flame
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uh... no

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i don't think so

worn ember
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lol those comments tho

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how ignorant can you be

potent fossil
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however ignorant the comments are, there is at least one person on earth more ignorant than that

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likely a boomer

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and probably in the USA, but i digress

worn ember
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who hurt you?

potent fossil
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boomers

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"covid isn't real"

one year later

"ok, but covid still isn't real"

worn ember
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earth is flat

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and the moonlanding is faked

limber knotBOT
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that's a diabolical stereotype - people of all ages have been spouting that crap.

worn ember
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welcome to the internet

spare venture
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I mean younger people are far more educated than older people

worn ember
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ahhahaha

warm anchor
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smh my head

worn ember
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40 years of life experience means fuck all i guess

spare venture
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The numbers don’t lie

worn ember
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numbers of what

warm anchor
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Well some people try really hard to learn among side the life and some people dont.

spare venture
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Education levels

worn ember
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compared to what tho

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this makes no sense

warm anchor
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so in a sense, the age means not much phossure

spare venture
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ded I know your brain can’t handle it

worn ember
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yeah i must be a boomer

spare venture
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since you seem to be unaware, the amount of people who are educated is increasing over time

worn ember
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the amount of people is increasing too zoop

spare venture
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39% of people 25-34 have a bachelors degree vs only 29% of people 65+ (in the US)

worn ember
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ok thats nice, maybe half the bachlors didnt exist 50 years ago

spare venture
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maybe

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I’m not sure what that’s supposed to mean tbh

worn ember
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you can be educated and still think the world is flat

spare venture
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Yes, but the more educated you are, the less likely you are to believe in that crap

worn ember
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depends what kind of education you get

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whats right is only a matter of perspective in some cases

spare venture
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either way, boomers r dum

worn ember
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its those boomers that allowed you to type that tho :p

warm anchor
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The worth transfer is happening

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So we will see how it goes

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As many of them start to die off

worn ember
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tbh i think this generation will be more fucked than the one before us

spare venture
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okay ded

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not all boomers are dum

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But I’d say there are more dumb boomers as a percentage of their age group vs younger generations

worn ember
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sure

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we'll see how them instagram influencers help society forward lol

spare venture
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when did you become such a boomer

unique snow
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I mean, naturally over the course of time average acquired intellect increases

worn ember
spare venture
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Are you not aware that every generation has had entertainers?

unique snow
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Unless society is not progressing informationally

spare venture
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Actors, musicians, athletes, etc

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Models

worn ember
spare venture
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Influencers are nothing new, they just have a better platform now

spare venture
unique snow
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Well, statistically it's held true for the last 100 years.

worn ember
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people with low intellect have more children and pass their genetic traits

spare venture
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ded I know ur just trolling so I’m not gonna get worked up

worn ember
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its not a troll dude, its facts

spare venture
unique snow
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Unless you invent ways for them to not have offspring maybe 🙂

worn ember
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yeah cuz they're totally big brain enough for that lol

unique snow
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People of low intellect are at a lower chance of having a high paying job, and the lower that gets the more likely you're unable to afford children.

spare venture
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ded ur one of those small brain people

unique snow
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I'm talking acquired intellect btw, so educational.

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Not raw intellectual ability.

worn ember
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sure, but poor people also have to spend more time working, and less educting themself

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so its a repeating circle

spare venture
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right...

unique snow
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Or potentiality rather.

spare venture
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that has been happening for a while but education rates continue to go up

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wonder how that’s happening

worn ember
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when you've got everything you want theres no incentive to progress tho

spare venture
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hell, there are scholarships and grants for the poor and minority groups to help uplift them

worn ember
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i think it'll stagnate at some point and then decline

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but i'm no expert

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

unique snow
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Even in less developed countries the increase in measurable intelligence on average has continued to increase over time, for what has been recorded at least.

spare venture
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I know you’re not 😛

unique snow
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I mean it's not huge, in America for example the average is like +30 IQ equivalent over 100 years.

worn ember
# spare venture I know you’re not 😛

let me get all boomer on you here barty, i think people today have a real issue with listening. like i say something you dont agree with and instantly im stupid. "its my opinion and i'm right and everyone who oposes it is stupid" mentality really gets on my nerves lol (not you personally tho)

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i'll gladly change my opinion on something if someone can put reason behind why i'm wrong, but lots of people dont seem to want to do that

spare venture
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because you just said you were playing devils advocate, so I assumed you were just disagreeing to disagree

worn ember
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to some degree yes

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i just dont agree with simples statement that all boomers are stupid

spare venture
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and you haven’t really said anything that is anything but an opinion, so I’m not inclined to change mine

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well, I don’t think he meant all

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But it’s definitely higher rate of stupid people in that generation

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You can see that just by looking at education levels

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Or literacy rates

woven otter
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i think boomers aren't the only stupid ones. all people are dum

unique snow
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Yeah I'd agree.

cosmic raft
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hi

true canyon
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hey kashike ❤️

woven otter
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hi kashike

spare venture
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boomers are just better at being dum

cosmic raft
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mbaxter! ❤️

unique snow
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If anything the boomer generation has done more for improving education than current generations.

worn ember
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i guess they're good at what they do and dont care about much else

cosmic raft
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duck. 🦆

woven otter
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🐱

spare venture
worn ember
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i blame disney tbh pepe_run

woven otter
unique snow
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So current generations are reaping the rewards for the previous generations hard work.

woven otter
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first kneny now you

spare venture
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I don’t think previous generations have left us in as good of a position as you say, at least in the US

worn ember
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i feel like people of my gen grew up with all the princesses and princes and "everyone is special" mentality that they think life owes them something

unique snow
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Education wise they have.

true canyon
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I just got WSL2 up and running and did a 100% fresh ./paper patch in like 4 minutes! Takes 20 seconds to run a second time without changes made! ❤️

spare venture
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ur my princess 🙂

woven otter
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dont worry about people too much guys. im sure global warming will spare us

unique snow
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You don't just magically get better education than the last generation, someone has to actually implement that.

worn ember
spare venture
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no thx

worn ember
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i wanna shift spam on ur bed

spare venture
warm anchor
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Can you two just have sex already.

worn ember
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wtf dont say the s word

spare venture
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not on my Christian server

woven otter
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yes there are children here wtf

warm anchor
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Oskar and Snoopa still asleep. It's fine.

worn ember
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not playing dota has been bad for you

spare venture
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thanks for making me remember they exist

woven otter
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they shouldnt

spare venture
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evil duck

woven otter
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whether you should have children or not is an interesting philosophical question actually

limber knotBOT
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01:46 <+DiscordBot> <party> The numbers don’t lie

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then cite that

spare venture
limber knotBOT
spare venture
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Works fine for me

limber knotBOT
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the second link isn't what I asked for

spare venture
limber knotBOT
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also covid-19 isn't a epidemic just occuring in the usa, so I don't like how localised those stats are - when the stereotype wasn't

spare venture
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Ah you got me. Guess I’m wrong because the study was only done in the US!

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Considering like 1/4 of covid infections were in the US, it’s pretty relevant.

limber knotBOT
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you're not necessarily wrong, but not all education systems are equal - so I don't see that are representational of the world at all.

spare venture
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boomers r dum

limber knotBOT
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and honestly all that really shows is that more people are taking up degrees.

spare venture
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yup, that’s generally how education works, more progression in the education system = more educated

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hence why I have only claimed that boomers are less educated, and that less educated people are more likely to believe conspiracies, therefore boomers r dum

limber knotBOT
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I wouldn't say "far more educated than older people" at all though.

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well by your logic I'm also dumb...

spare venture
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guess ur dum then

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And 39% is significantly greater than 29%

unique snow
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I mean, if believing a conspiracy theory makes you "dum", and if there are people in your generation that have believed that, and that factor makes your generation "dum", every generation fits that criteria.

spare venture
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there are degrees of dumness

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higher rates of dumness makes a group dummer IMO

ancient bolt
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this conversation is stupid

limber knotBOT
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its is - though the boomer generation will also contain people from that 50-64 age bracket too. but I don't believe that having a degree == 'far more educated'

spare venture
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ur dum

unique snow
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Yeah that's my point. 😐

woven otter
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millenials are dum and zoomers are dum

spiral robin
limber knotBOT
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it is, its blatant age discrimination.

spare venture
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I said they are far more educated because far more people are more educated

unique snow
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It actually is age discrimination, which is a zero tolerance item.

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Last I checked.

worn ember
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Perma ban

true canyon
woven otter
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rip party

ancient bolt
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I don't think my hint was received

unique snow
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I don't know if it's politics, maybe?

spare venture
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it’s not

ancient bolt
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let's not continue having this stupid conversation please

worn ember
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Education = politics

woven otter
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ahh yes paper

spare venture
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what are we allowed to talk about in the off topic channel

woven otter
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literally anything kappa

cunning raft
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the latest yatopia update

spare venture
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who cares about that shitty project

true canyon
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Now that I have WSL2 running, what should I do with it?

worn ember
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I can talk about that one time a kid tripped over a rock and ripped his entire kneecap open over a piece of metal

ancient bolt
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@true canyon bitcoin

unique snow
spare venture
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every time you mention it, the more power it gets

unique snow
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😛

formal turret
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they got a fabric mod now too

true canyon
true canyon
spare venture
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just use wine

worn ember
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I prefer gin

unique snow
spare venture
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Or don’t play windows games because those are peasant games

worn ember
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Play outside fuckin nurd

unique snow
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Sounds right up your alley.

true canyon
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Back in high school I tried the "I'm so cool I do it all on linux!" thing, but I now know that's unattainable for what I want to do with a computer 🙂

spare venture
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I’d never want to use Linux on a personal computer tbh

worn ember
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Me tbh

unique snow
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Yeah I need it for work, and most games are windows only or console.

worn ember
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Linux is just so much configuring for little gain

spare venture
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Windows is pretty convenient for how awful is can be

unique snow
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You only use an OS no one else likes or uses then since you don't use Windows or Linux?

worn ember
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It's great if you like that but sucks for casuals

true canyon
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I used to dual boot because CraftBukkit creation required it (could be done WSL now, I suppose), but as soon as that was done I never booted linux again.

unique snow
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I dual boot my personal PC.

worn ember
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I dual boot windows and windows

spare venture
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I used to dual boot windows and OS X

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Those were the days

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On a tiny MacBook Pro hard drive

unique snow
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Linux/Windows, can do all my development stuff on both if I make some concessions in Windows, and can do everything other than play most games on Linux.

mellow quiver
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mbaxter what games do you play that are windows only?

spare venture
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Most games?

potent fossil
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So I was drinking my coffee and then hit the cup unexpectedly and spilled it over all of my peripherals and wouldn't you know it, THEY ALL GOT LIQUID DAMAGE so I'm using a new keyboard and mouse now smfh

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great saturday

unique snow
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It's easier to list the games that are not windows only.

spare venture
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That sucks simple

worn ember
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Good job simple

spare venture
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Serves you right for drinking liquids

unique snow
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I mean there is wine etc

spare venture
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I prefer to hydrate myself with solids

worn ember
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Suffer for drinking at your desk

potent fossil
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.kill @spare venture

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

potent fossil
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k

spare venture
potent fossil
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.kill party

limber knotBOT
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gags and ties party then throws them off a cliff to their death.

unique snow
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Wow, simple came along and instantly kills the party.

spare venture
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why did you have to gag me for that

ancient bolt
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once WSL 2 has full microsoft-provided linux GUI experience I will see much less of a reason to dual boot

spare venture
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Weirdo

mellow quiver
unique snow
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You're such a drag. Gosh.

ancient bolt
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windows looks better than linux, is more stable, etc

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right now it's still a bit annoying to run gui apps in WSL2 but it's not that bad

mellow quiver
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wym looks better? The look of linux is up to the user, if a linux install is ugly then that's the users choice

worn ember
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I havent found a single use for wsl personally

woven otter
ancient bolt
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honestly I just want 2 computers

worn ember
spare venture
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I just want one, pls GPU prices go down

true canyon
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mellow quiver
ancient bolt
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"users choice", yeah the choice is a UI that, while at times clunky, is designed by professionals working on it full time vs some people putting together some icon packs which don't work half the time, almost never install easily, clash with every fucking shell having it's own theming format, list goes on

unique snow
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Phanteks have heaps of dual system cases.

spare venture
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People love to hate on windows but it is pretty convenient and user friendly

ancient bolt
potent fossil
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I don't like dual booting and I don't do it anymore. I used to dual boot arch and windows, windows for gaming. But as of WSL2 the experience is fantastic. GUI apps in WSL2 are not quite plug and play but it's not difficult by any stretch to get it working.

Windows and Mac both "just work." And that's more valuable for me and my work than running pure Linux, which I also love. But I need it to just work without me having to spend hours tinkering (which is fun, but it has its time and place) so I can get things done.

spare venture
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Coming from a windows hater

woven otter
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see if linux could take over windows world would be a better place

spare venture
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Would it

worn ember
ancient bolt
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then I'd never have to deal with linux's annoyances, macOS feels enough like linux while still being beautiful

woven otter
spare venture
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maybe

mellow quiver
unique snow
warm anchor
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Good morning Simple!

potent fossil
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pepelove @warm anchor

ancient bolt
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macos is linux that people actually write software for, what can I say ¯_(ツ)_/¯

unique snow
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Don't mind me, just being mean to OSX

warm anchor
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No hating on MacOS

worn ember
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I loved my 5fps on my hackingtosh

warm anchor
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it does what it does well

ancient bolt
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fucking systemd is based entirely on launchd, which came from, you guessed it, macOS

unique snow
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I actually think the docker experience on macOS is horrible.

ancient bolt
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so kind of linux is becoming more like macOS over time

spare venture
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Boot camp is nice

warm anchor
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most of the artist I know use MacOS

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its not just something for programmer

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their new ARM shit is actually super impressive

ancient bolt
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uses several macbooks for programming

woven otter
warm anchor
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for soemthing fanless

spare venture
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Don’t a lot of CSE people use MacBooks?

ancient bolt
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gets paid professionally to write software and his work machine is a macbook pro

warm anchor
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I mean Macbook looks sexy

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what can I say?

spare venture
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Just expensive

unique snow
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The advantage Linux has over macOS for development, especially in integration testing is night and day

warm anchor
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expensive is subjective

ancient bolt
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yeah apple knows how to make things pretty, and fuck me for caring about the shit that I use every day looking good

woven otter
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well you don't need me to look at it

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looks alone are not enough tbh

spare venture
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Although the new CPU seems like it’s making it a better deal

worn ember
unique snow
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I agree about the aesthetics.

ancient bolt
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we use actual servers for that

mellow quiver
spare venture
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I honestly prefer the aesthetics of the dell XPS laptops

mellow quiver
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because it's basically what you said

spare venture
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After owning both

warm anchor
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James on budget there. Dont be too hard on him DemonWav

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xDDD

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not everyone has proper test environment

woven otter
unique snow
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A couple of bigger projects I work on have comprehensive integration tests, it can often be easier to just run the specific tests you want to do locally.

worn ember
unique snow
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Docker makes that insanely easy, as long as you're using Linux.

woven otter
spare venture
mellow quiver
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@true canyon wingspan works fine on linux

warm anchor
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True ture

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but I think Apple took the right path

unique snow
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I much prefer a testing environment you can replicate locally or on a CI/CD pipeline.

warm anchor
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and it WILL pay off

true canyon
spare venture
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They were going down the wrong path for a while

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That stupid Touch Bar..

mellow quiver
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some games run better in proton than they do natively

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e.g. csgo

worn ember
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Poop game

upper flicker
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csgo is on proton?

mellow quiver
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well you can run it natively, but people have found it runs better through proton

upper flicker
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it had a native port long before proton was a thing, did they give up on that?

mellow quiver
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no, it's still a thing

upper flicker
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I always liked the Linux port better than the windows version because the input latency seemed lower

worn ember
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All Volvo games run on Linux natively

upper flicker
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I haven’t played cs in years now though

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so I dunno I guess lol

mellow quiver
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yeah I don't play it either, it's just an example of games actually running better through proton than natively

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which is honestly funny af

worn ember
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Only thing that game gives me is furious rage

mellow quiver
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but it also shows that linux gaming is actually somewhat viable these days

unique snow
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How much work is involved in using Proton?

mellow quiver
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it's built into steam

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so none

unique snow
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Ah nice.

mellow quiver
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you just have to opt into steam beta

unique snow
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That'll do it

true canyon
mellow quiver
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ah that's a shame

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yeah games with anti cheats usually fuck it over unfortunately

unique snow
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Shame GOG doesn't have something similar, don't really like Steam.

mellow quiver
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man I hate all these other game launchers/libraries

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I mean gog is fine because it's not really a steam competitor

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but fuck epic games

unique snow
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I agree.

worn ember
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Epic store looks nice but it's such trash to use

unique snow
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Epic, Origin, etc

worn ember
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There was that April's fools joke for a launcher that manages your launchers

true canyon
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Epic's interface and functionality would be absolutely revolutionary in 2005.

mellow quiver
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discords game launcher thing had potential

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shame they discontinued it

worn ember
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Not enough interest

warm anchor
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ugh

mellow quiver
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yeah

warm anchor
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DIscord found out that people will pay to use weeb emojis

worn ember
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Tbh i didn't really like it

warm anchor
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the server boost things helped them a ton

mellow quiver
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it wasn't very polished darkeye, but it had potential

unique snow
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Once I heard about GOG, I instantly jumped on because of their business practices.

worn ember
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Sure. But i use discord to chat with people. Not to play or buy games

limber knotBOT
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I like GOG, I wish I'd have used it more over the years.

worn ember
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It felt out of place

mellow quiver
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I'm not talking about the buying games thing

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that was stupid

worn ember
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Oh ok

mellow quiver
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but its functionality which allowed you to launch steam games, epic games, etc, from a single place

warm anchor
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You see the huge thing about owning game on Dsicord is

mellow quiver
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that was useful

warm anchor
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if your account got banned for any reason, you lose all access

unique snow
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Which is why I like GOG.

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😛

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Only platform that doesn't have that affect.

worn ember
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Goes for any platform tho

limber knotBOT
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you can buy games on discord?

mellow quiver
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you used to be able to jamie

worn ember
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Not anymore

unique snow
worn ember
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That's cool

mellow quiver
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yeah but gog only sells weird indie games

unique snow
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You can be banned forever on GOG, as long as you downloaded the game, you can keep on playing.

limber knotBOT
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interesting - I guess you just downloaded the installers?

mellow quiver
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on discord or gog jamie?

limber knotBOT
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discord

mellow quiver
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no it functioned similarly to steam or epic

limber knotBOT
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I know how gog works, I'm a big fan :P

unique snow
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Cyberpunk 2077 is considered indie?

mellow quiver
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didn't know cyberpunk was on there

worn ember
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By the amount of bugs. Yes

unique snow
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Many developers sell their games on there tbh

limber knotBOT
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oh so you had to install their desktop client then I guess, eww 🤮

unique snow
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The only ones who don't are like EA and co.

mellow quiver
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nono jamie, it was built into the discord app

unique snow
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Which fuck EA.

mellow quiver
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oh

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sorry misunderstood you

worn ember
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I haven't bought an ea game since bf3

mellow quiver
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nitro subscribers would get a free game every month or week or something

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can't remember the exact details

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it was bad though

worn ember
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I only use epic go grab free games lol

unique snow
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Looks like BG3 is on there too

mellow quiver
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bg3?

limber knotBOT
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cyberpunk is written by a company owned by the same parent as gog

unique snow
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Baldurs Gate

limber knotBOT
#

free games are cool, but I really don't like epic's business practises tbh.

mellow quiver
#

epic is acting super entitled

unique snow
#

I didn't know CDP owned GOG, interesting.

mellow quiver
#

any difference between cd projekt and cd projekt red?

limber knotBOT
#

cdpr are the game developer I guess

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I'm not certain of the exact boundaries - but as far as I know, that's it.

mellow quiver
#

wait so are you telling me cyberpunk doesn't have drm?

unique snow
#

I believe the company is just CD Projekt, RED is just a team within the company I tink.

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think*

limber knotBOT
spare venture
#

was the cyberpunk source leaked or

mellow quiver
#

I think the hackers said they sold it to someone

spare venture
#

ah

mellow quiver
#

don't think there has been any news since

limber knotBOT
#

yeah its been made clear to me that I have no power of how I'm presented on Discord, so 🤷‍♂️

spare venture
#

they should’ve stolen the source of a game that wasn’t completely broken lol

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might’ve gotten a higher price

limber knotBOT
#

I'm sure they made off with the source of the witcher 3 too

mellow quiver
#

is cdr actively working on cyberpunk?

spare venture
#

I think so?

limber knotBOT
#

fucking scoundrels.

spare venture
#

I sure hope so because the game still isn’t really playable on console at all, and didn’t look great on PC

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It still hasn’t been added back to the PlayStation store

mellow quiver
#

rust on console soon™️

unique snow
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Well they'd have the money to do that.

limber knotBOT
#

I got it on Stadia, since there was a pretty good pre-order deal, ran pretty well there

unique snow
#

They doubled their total sales in months or something insane like that.

limber knotBOT
#

and yet they still disbanded their internal studios

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didn't even attempt to offload them as far as I can tell - bizzare

spare venture
#

Even without all of the performance problems on console the game just looked very incomplete and unpolished, nowhere near complete

unique snow
#

I meant Facepunch with Rust.

spare venture
#

Yeah face punch really hit it big with that

limber knotBOT
#

really pitiful end for studios acquired by Google :(

mellow quiver
#

the console thing has actually been in works for like a year

spare venture
#

Rust started as some shitty browser game

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With placeholder graphics

mellow quiver
#

the recent blow up of the game didn't really affect it

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I don't even know if facepunch is funding the console edition

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a separate company is making it

spare venture
#

Their assets were all shit from the unity store haha

mellow quiver
#

there's still some remnants of those assets in the game I'm pretty sure

spare venture
#

Probably

mellow quiver
#

it's actually quite impressive how much content rust has these days

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and they're still adding it

spare venture
#

You used to be able to drive a red racecar around that devs would spawn in

mellow quiver
#

well now rust has proper cars

spare venture
#

Yeah I’d like to revisit it to see how it has changed, but I have to get a PC first, and these GPU prices are making that tough

mellow quiver
#

you really need a team to play rust

spare venture
#

I’m aware

mellow quiver
#

my local store has 3090s and 3060s in stock

spare venture
#

See I don’t need a top of the line desktop, I wanted to get something more reasonable and cheaper

mellow quiver
#

is a 3060 considered top of the line?

spare venture
#

The price is

mellow quiver
#

I thought they were mid tier

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oh right

spare venture
#

I was looking more for something like a 1650/1660 super, or one of the amd cards

mellow quiver
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I have a 1650 in my laptop

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works pretty well

spare venture
#

Those are only like $400-800

mellow quiver
#

haven't noticed performance issues in any of the games I play

spare venture
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3060 is like minimum $1000, I’m not sure what it MSRP is tho

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$329, Id go for that in a heartbeat if I could pay that little for it

mellow quiver
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3060 here with 12gb gddr6 costs $776 usd incl tax

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i'm in aus

spare venture
#

Meanwhile you can get a PS5 for $500 that can do up to 4K @ 60 with ray tracing on some games, the GPU prices are just ridiculous

mellow quiver
#

I thought ps5s were hard to get too?

spare venture
#

They are, but seemingly more obtainable than those GPUs

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And the scalper inflated prices aren’t that bad anymore

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Crypto miners don’t need PlayStation’s, the difficulty is just due to high demand and low production

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I managed to get one a week after release

unique snow
#

The problem is there are so many companies competing for TSMC's business, currently anyone looking to get anything from them that isn't auto industry related is struggling.

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Though that doesn't affect nvidia I don't think, they use Samsung

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I think anyway

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Oh nope, TSMC

true canyon
#

Sounds like they were using samsung and are shifting to tsmc

unique snow
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Literally nvidia, AMD (2 generations of CPU's and GPU's), PS5, Xbox, all competing for it.

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Ah could be

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I could have sworn nvidia was Samsung.

true canyon
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Crap yield from samsung, it seems.

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If the yield issue is giving them lots of crap binned stuff could that also explain their crypto cards? Like, lots of not-good-enough-for-gaming chips that are good enough to sell for mining?

unique snow
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Oh Ampere is 30 series, so 30 series are TSMC

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So yea, nvidia (30 series), AMD (2 CPU generations), AMD (2 GPU generations), PS5, Xbox, Nintendo Switch (I believe), several large auto makers.

true canyon
#

It's 2021 with good CPUs and wildly fast SSDs, and inkscape still takes measurable seconds to launch

vestal jasper
#

@potent fossil sup

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Wow

untold copper
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I finally

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Have my own phone

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epic.

potent fossil
vestal jasper
#

No u took too long soz

potent fossil
#

I'm on a Skype call with my fiancee watching Elona Holmes

vestal jasper
#

43 minutes !

potent fossil
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@vestal jasper i am sorry :Sadge:

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oh my god my nitro ran out again

waxen panther
upper flicker
potent fossil
#

budget emojis

upper flicker
#

at least they're bigger

left swift
#

That's what she said

waxen panther
#

gottem !

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another knee slapper by nomana

left swift
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Thanks brocc ur my favorite fruit

waxen panther
#

aw

violet valve
#

anybody know of a plugin that gives me the cordinates of every chest and shulker

zealous wedge
#

not possible, there is no global storage

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at best you could check in loaded chunks

merry talon
#

looks cute

violet valve
#

how do i find peoples logout position?

potent fossil
untold copper
merry talon
potent fossil
#

hon hon hon Z750?

upper flicker
#

meme from another server

merry talon
#

hon hon we build our datacentres out of wood

upper flicker
#

baguette baguette eiffel tower

quasi valley
merry talon
#

no

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it was both

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shipping containers with wood floors

upper flicker
#

microsoft is putting theirs under water

quasi valley
#

o no

upper flicker
#

clearly thinking ahead thinksmart

merry talon
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but they just had like the biggest vuln in history

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so not too far ahead i guess

upper flicker
#

still MS

quasi valley
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inb4 new advertising campains "our servers aren't on fire, but still very fast! 🔥"

merry talon
#

like they need to compete with OVH lol

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the only people using Azure are those who have no hope of ever escaping AD hell

upper flicker
#

MS is kinda killing it with azure

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no one who cares about OVH is looking at azure or vice versa

vernal moth
#

Azure is cool

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Better than aws for sure

#

Azure also owns 20% of the cloud market or smth, while amazon has a 1/3

mental meadow
waxen panther
#

yep

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seems like paper general to me

vernal moth
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Ovh is like really small on the grand scale

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Yes the are big in terms of physical resources, but others make way more money ^^

mental meadow
#

Our vps survived🥰

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Thanks to a non confusing naming scheme

olive marlin
#

OVH and azure/aws/GCP are completely different things.

mental meadow
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SGB2 (the one that burned down) had the Openstack instances SBG1,2,3,4 while SBG3 had SBG5 and 6
Not confusing at all

vernal moth
#

Ovh has similar offerings tho

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Ovh is the old school hosting provider, offering raw power. But that's not what ppl demand anymore.

olive marlin
#

OVH is mostly dedicated etc, aws/GCP/azure are mostly VPS and managed services.

waxen panther
#

it did remind me to do some proper backing-up shit on my vps's at least :')

mental meadow
#

Ovh has a lot of vps and managed stuff

minor badge
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@waxen panther awa

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?

waxen panther
#

redid all my dotfiles 😎

mental meadow
#

uwu

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woa

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i should too

waxen panther
#

i now, officially, understand half of bspwms commands

mental meadow
#

SpaceX is targeting Sunday, March 14 for launch of 60 Starlink satellites from Launch Complex 39A (LC-39A) at Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The instantaneous window is at 6:01 a.m. EDT, or 10:01 UTC.

The Falcon 9 first stage rocket booster supporting this mission previously supported launch of Crew Dragon’s first demonstration mission, RADAR...

▶ Play video
vernal moth
#

Record turnaround time for a booster, 9th launch, exiting!

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They took 10 days to refurbish the booster

mental meadow
#

Space uwu science rocket i like

vernal moth
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The end goal is no refurbishment, falcon super heavy (the starship booster) will launch and refly with just refueling

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If those raptors would stop burning already, pff

limber knotBOT
#

i mean, aircraft get regular maintenance after a certain # of flights, i imagine this will be quite similar where it does maybe 10-15 flights, then gets some maintenance, then out for another 10-15

vernal moth
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Yeah

limber knotBOT
#

maybe more than 10-15 idk but regular iterative maintenance instead of after every launch

vernal moth
#

Sn11 launch early next week \o/

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If static fire goes well tomorrow they can launch Tuesday or Wednesday iirc

potent fossil
#

i hope all goes well

mental meadow
#

I still love the name of the satellite dish u get for starlink

magic river
#

Dishy McFlatface?

mental meadow
#

Yeah

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Just heard that the first time in their livestream

visual egret
#

what units are these in for the cloudflare traffic report thing

olive marlin
#

Traffic units smh

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My guess is sessions or something like that?

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Or just requests in general.

visual egret
#

ok great i just found my transaction ID email from 2019

vernal moth
#

For CloudFlare that's hits

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Requests

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Whatever

#

So one page view has many requests, for the initial request and all the resources, subsequent views should not have to refetch the assets tho

visual egret
#

thats quite a bit of hits then

vernal moth
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well, depends on the time frame, lol

#

but I assume a month?

visual egret
#

yeah

vernal moth
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kek http/3

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where do you see that statistic, I cant find it

visual egret
#

email

vernal moth
#

huh

visual egret
vernal moth
#

but yeah, 500k requests per month isnt that much

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my non existent website has 20k

pliant geode
#

Hello, I need help, could someone tell me where to get help. Thanks

vernal moth
potent fossil
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lol

vernal moth
potent fossil
visual egret
#

what?

potent fossil
#

that's not really huge either for a month

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it's mid-size

vernal moth
#

yeah

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paper has a small website, most of that is download I would assume

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potent fossil
#

uwu

minor badge
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very proportionate peepoSmile

potent fossil
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wat dat for

minor badge
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my server's traffic in january

potent fossil
#

uwu

minor badge
#

I should consider changing my ssh port tbh

vernal moth
#

I just tarpit the default port 😄

minor badge
#

don't wanna be bothered to set that up

dense harbor
#

how can i obtain the server jar source code that can be recompiled?

potent fossil
twin lagoon
#

sshd_config.d is a thing wtf

olive marlin
#

Michale pepeclap

twin lagoon
ashen cliff
#

MFW UniFi retroactively broke terminal sessions and ssh on EOL devices: kekwhyper

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Bruh.

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They even broke wiping. EPIC.

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Actually EPIC.

potent fossil
#

lol

ashen cliff
#

I hear you like BRICKS!

olive marlin
#

Why can't a docker container have both host network and custom network PepeHands

potent fossil
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it can

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i do that in compose

olive marlin
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How?

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I can't find info anywhere - setting network mode to host automatically yeets the container out of any network.

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I need to have node_exporter with access to host network and need Prometheus to be able to reach it. But that'd either require being in the same network, or extracting network gateway ip.

potent fossil
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i add this to the bottom of compose file

networks:
  default: # this is the default host network
    external:
      name: gateway # i dont think it has to be called gateway
  internalprojnetworknamehere:
    internal: true

then just add to the service definition:

    networks:
      - "default"
      - "internalprojnetworknamehere"
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works 4 me

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then a dependent service is just on the internal network and it doesnt complain at all

twin lagoon
#

@potent fossil pepelove

olive marlin
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Well, yes. But it isn't host network.

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Default is just for all networks in given compose.

potent fossil
#

Don't care

potent fossil
olive marlin
#

I need access to host network one way or another because of node_exporter.

twin lagoon
#

node_exporter Pog

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#

it's common to be in the default config, though

olive marlin
#

And so I could template Prometheus config and inject the default network gateway ip to it, since it's the host ip on docker bridge iface.

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And access node_exporter this way.

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But then I have issue that I need network to exist to template Prometheus config, and I need to bring up compose to setup network.

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Hate chicken and eggs problem...

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I saw PR that added special entry to docker containers pointing at host ip, but despite it being merged there's no info anywhere about it and it doesn't seem to work...

gleaming plank
#

hello, did you know that 40 players can play on 200MB of RAM ? With a constant 19.9 TPS, i am using paper 1.8.9

limber knotBOT
#

Is that unmodified paper?

twin lagoon
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it's 1.8

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it doesn't matter

olive marlin
#

Who cares about playing without any features. Majority wants features.

gleaming plank
#

yes Geolykt

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everyone cause the pvp is better in 1.8.9

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it's that why we have 60 players by day

twin lagoon
#

now what we could all use right now

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is some kabanosy

olive marlin
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Paper didn't have any specific bstats integration in 1.8 fwiw

limber knotBOT
#

And that people, is why you should have metrics on

olive marlin
twin lagoon
ashen cliff
#

Looks like dog food. kekwhyper

gleaming plank
#

whatever it's amazing how my server can support 40 players with 200MB of RAM i'm so strong wow

ashen cliff
#

🤔

olive garden
gleaming plank
#

what ?

ashen cliff
#

Double tinfoil hat moment.

olive marlin
#

On mobile it displays just fine.

gleaming plank
#

i don't understand

olive garden
#

you are either a troll or you don't know how to set/check how much RAM your server is using

gleaming plank
#

no i have a constant 19.9 TPS

olive marlin
#

I mean, they claim they use a version of Paper which doesn't exist, so...

ashen cliff
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I'ma just ask for a /timings report

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And it better be a cursed AF one.

olive garden
#

lol

limber knotBOT
#

𝒙𝑫𝒓𝒂𝒈𝒊𝒊𝒊𝒆𝒆𝒆𝒆_: Just use Cuberite if you like low RAM

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It supports 1.8.9 - 1.12.2, so it should be a win-win for you

ashen cliff
#

We only talk 1.16.5 here.

olive marlin
#

What about 1.17?

ashen cliff
#

Not yet.

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.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

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In that case, there's Minestom for low RAM needs

gleaming plank
#

lmao 1.16.5 worst version

olive marlin
#

Again, statistics disagree with you.

ashen cliff
#

As far as I remember Cuberite, it was using 200MB+ just at idle.

limber knotBOT
#

Except for Cuberite there is no long-term actively maintained public server implementation for 1.8.9, which tells a lot

twin lagoon
#

minestom wideKEKWTrash

olive garden
#

1.8.9 servers still don't exist

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leaden oxideBOT
#

dynoSuccess 𝒙𝑫𝒓𝒂𝒈𝒊𝒊𝒊𝒆𝒆𝒆𝒆_#1699 was kicked | https://tenor.com/view/16195074 nobody cares how well your 1.8 server is performing and how 1.16 is so awful and terrible

olive marlin
#

Proxi happeepoheart

limber knotBOT
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Could be a debug build though, as far as I know these debug builds love to eat performance

ashen cliff
#

Well. Cuberite is still unpolished as ever. Really wanted to see it get better over time.

vernal moth
#

Be the change you want to see in the world, it's an open source project

limber knotBOT
#

It sucks, but it shows how complicated a minecraft server is

pulsar wigeon
#

but it has lua worldedit. it must be superior

limber knotBOT
#

Oh wow, Cuberite also has an IRC Bridge

ashen cliff
limber knotBOT
#

Impressive world gen, if you disregard the trees

meager tusk
#

Balkan world gen

ashen cliff
#

Trees and random mobs in the middle of nowhere. But otherwise I like the project a lot.

vernal moth
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Do they have caves?

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Cause those are hard

ashen cliff
#

They do.

vernal moth
#

Nice

meager tusk
#

That's sick

vernal moth
#

I really wanna build a proper server impl too

meager tusk
#

what version is cuberite on?

ashen cliff
limber knotBOT
#

1.8.9 - 1.12.2

meager tusk
#

ah

vernal moth
#

But it wouldn't be tied to a protocol version, that would be stupid

ashen cliff
#

They have a 1.13+ dev branch tho.

meager tusk
#

seems a lot of the server implementations out there are stuck on 1.12

vernal moth
#

Just translate everything from an internal data structure to each protocol

limber knotBOT
#

Does it compile though?

ashen cliff
#

AFAIK it does.

vernal moth
#

And I want everything data driven

meager tusk
#

@vernal moth be the change you want to see

vernal moth
#

Heeaaaaappps of json files

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Oh i started before

limber knotBOT
#

Wow, one of the few dev branches that compiles

meager tusk
#

I've tried to work on a server implementation before but

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I got lazy

#

lol

twin lagoon
vernal moth
#

I just have too much i wanna do

twin lagoon
vernal moth
#

And arguebly it's best for the community if i focus on hangar

meager tusk
#

pog geyser wtf

ashen cliff
#

Bruh. Legit just upstreamed my fork of Geyser. Time to do it again I guess.

twin lagoon
#

why do you fork geyser

ashen cliff
#

AuthMe.

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That's why.

twin lagoon
#

balkan geyser

meager tusk
#

Krusic working on servers that use AuthMe

ashen cliff
#

Bro.

meager tusk
#

proper BALKAN DEVELOPER bro!

mossy vessel
#

BalkMe

twin lagoon
#

@mossy vessel panda_flush

vernal moth
#

But like, my list of stuff i wanna work on includes paper, hangar, paperweight, MiniMessage, mapping viewer, minicraft (my server impl), godotcraft (my mc client in godot), voxelgamelib (my Minigames framework), generally game dev stuff etc

meager tusk
#

mc client in godot??

vernal moth
#

It's a never ending list, every entry enough for a full time job

meager tusk
#

sounds nuts

vernal moth
#

I got a mc client in godot, yes!

meager tusk
#

that's really interesting

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isn't godot a 2d game engine primarily though

vernal moth
#

No godot can 3d just fine

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And in summer godot is getting a vulcan renderer :0

vernal moth
#

That's when I wanna work on that again

#

Has some screenshots

ashen cliff
meager tusk
#

we should go back to farming

#

literally

vernal moth
#

It's obviously not much

meager tusk
#

🧑‍🌾

#

this me?

vernal moth
#

But i argue it has potential?

meager tusk
#

those leaves look a little

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not green

vernal moth
#

Yeah mc leafs don't have color

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Color comes from biome tint i think

meager tusk
#

oh yeah they do but

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you haven't implemented it

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looked like cobblestone at first

#

but yes that looks awesome

vernal moth
#

I know ^^

ashen cliff
#

Is there a web MC client yet? Like any version between 1.8 up to latest?

twin lagoon
#

wasm minecraft client

vernal moth
#

Issue is web doesn't support tcp

meager tusk
#

Ok make it Michael

vernal moth
#

But godot runs in webgl

twin lagoon
#

udp to tcp conversion

meager tusk
#

You done yet Michael?

twin lagoon
vernal moth
#

No udp either i think

meager tusk
#

lol there's a web client i believe

twin lagoon
#

website to tcp conversion

vernal moth
#

Just websockets which are strange tcp

twin lagoon
#

perfect

#

TCP-over-WSS

meager tusk
#

TCP-over-WSS kekwhyper

vernal moth
#

It works but you need a proxy

#

Doeable for sure

#

Again, as I said, it's on my list of stuff i wanna work on, and it's currently waiting for godot 4 to become stable

meager tusk
#

lol

vernal moth
#

Last time I checked out godot 4 the branch didn't even compile 😂

#

There are plenty of web viewers already

meager tusk
#

this isn't a web viewer

#

this is a client

vernal moth
#

There's the wss to tcp proxy

ashen cliff
vernal moth
#

Just uses the mineflayer bot framework, that's smart

meager tusk
#

yeah

vernal moth
#

But i wanna make the client speak normal tcp

meager tusk
#

that's really smart

vernal moth
#

Like the normal mc protocol

meager tusk
#

wait..

ashen cliff
#

And this is exactly what I needed.

meager tusk
#

mini..

#

you want to make a minecraft server implementation

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and godotcraft.

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🤔

vernal moth
#

Just proxy that thru wss

meager tusk
#

are you trying to replace the game mini?

vernal moth
worn ember
#

Will it be better tho

vernal moth
#

It's just educational projects really

meager tusk
#

it's made by Mini. Of course it'll be worse.

#

🏃‍♂️

warm anchor
limber knotBOT
#

So Paper will become obsolete?

meager tusk
#

yes.

worn ember
#

It already is

vernal moth
#

I don't have the resources to write a server impl that is better than glowstone I don't think so

ashen cliff
vernal moth
#

Maybe I do, cause i wouldn't touch Bukkit

meager tusk
#

glowstone tried to implement the bukkit api

#

🛌

vernal moth
#

Idk

#

I first wanna see paper take over

#

Then I can look at new fun stuff

#

And for paper to take over, i need to work on hangar

#

And paperweight

#

And PRs

#

So those are prio for me rn

limber knotBOT
#

Glowstone doesn'T compile last time I tried

#

And I cannot even fix that since it uses that stupid automatic boilerplate code generator

ashen cliff
#

Idriz bro!

#

Balkan SHIP!

meager tusk
ashen cliff
#

Yes bro!

#

Got kicked for Aura in spectator mode bro. But epic.

meager tusk
#

Bro.

#

That flag..

ashen cliff
#

You know it bro!

meager tusk
#

Bro.

limber knotBOT
#

Aura in spectator mode?

meager tusk
#

That looks like Russia flag bro.

#

You have to add banner. Make it look like Slovenia flag.

ashen cliff
#

I assume it was trying to break a block, while it's not possible to break blocks.

#

No idea tho.

#

Anyway, back to yelling at UniFi.

gleaming plank
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I don't understand why i've been kicked i'm just sayin that i have a performing server in 1.8.9 with 200mb of ram with 40 players and a constant 19.9 TPS

meager tusk
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with a quarter of the game's features lol

limber knotBOT
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We do not like people using 1.8 and bloating how 1.16.5 is bad

gleaming plank
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but 1.8.9 is the best version for pvp

meager tusk
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ok?

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still a quarter of the game's features so your flexing means nothing

limber knotBOT
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Yes, but not the best version in general

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it is one of the most stupid versions to use for SMP

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?kick @gleaming plank I'm feeling generous, so this is a last chance. The constant discussion over how 1.8 is so so much better is 100% unnecessary.

leaden oxideBOT
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dynoSuccess 𝒙𝑫𝒓𝒂𝒈𝒊𝒊𝒊𝒆𝒆𝒆𝒆_#1699 was kicked | I'm feeling generous, so this is a last chance. The constant discussion over how 1.8 is so so much better is 100% unnecessary.

worn ember
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hes just spitting facts proxi

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plz no ban

olive marlin
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Shouldn't it be a warn then?

limber knotBOT
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He's spitting false facts though

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people don't care about warns, kicks generally put the "ok this is not going my way" mentality on it

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also forces a break in the discussion, i.e. I break the flow of it

limber knotBOT
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That is new

worn ember
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ion even get warnings cuz i have the bot blocked OMEGALUL

meager tusk
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I don't get what they think they're gonna achieve by boasting about 1.8 lol

worn ember
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get people triggered ofc

limber knotBOT
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Usually it enforces a "wow, they don't like a discussion, they must have a pretty bad moderation team" for me

meager tusk
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i mean maybe it triggers some people but like ok what's your end goal

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1.8 is one of the topics we don't want, especially with an asshat attitude. if you want to discuss old versions, other servers fit better for it

worn ember
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i heard the paperspigot server allows it

warm anchor
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Proxi best mod? Pog

worn ember
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@warm anchor dota?

warm anchor
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busy FeelsBadMan

worn ember
olive garden
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whatever, I don't need windows

olive marlin
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Out of RAM?

ashen cliff
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Probably just unmounted.

olive marlin
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If unmounted, you should get empty dir though?

ashen cliff
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Depends on the FS driver.

olive garden
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restarting windows will probably fix it

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I hope at least lol

ashen cliff
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What are you trying to do?

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INB4 dirty bit is set.

olive garden
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tbh nothing, I just noticed that my symbolic links to the windows FS were red, so I checked out what's up

olive marlin
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1 docker-compose to rule them all!

olive garden
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oof my WSL local maven repo points to the Windows local maven repo, so I can't build like this

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I guess time to see whether a restart fixes the issue

gleaming plank
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I don't understand why i've been kicked i'm just sayin that i have a performing server in 1.8.9 with 200mb of ram with 40 players and a constant 19.9 TPS

limber knotBOT
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sir, you are on your way on getting banned

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I would advise you to drop the topic

worn ember
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mod abooose!!!

warm anchor
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Typical phossure

gleaming plank
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i don't understand why everyone hate the 1.8.9 version it's the best version for minecraft with 1.7.10

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lot of features nice pvp

worn ember
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who asked tho modCheck

gleaming plank
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under rated version

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?ban save @gleaming plank Drop the god damn topic.

leaden oxideBOT
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dynoSuccess 𝒙𝑫𝒓𝒂𝒈𝒊𝒊𝒊𝒆𝒆𝒆𝒆_#1699 was banned | Drop the god damn topic.

warped sail
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Kek

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Good xD

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"underrated" lmao. I don't get these ppl smh

twin lagoon
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probably just wanted to see how fast he got banned for 1.8 circlejerk

olive marlin
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There was another person just before them that said 1.8 is better and was thinking it might be a raid.

warped sail
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But why tho

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Don't they have a life smh

worn ember
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i mean if you still play 1.8 you must have braindamage

warped sail
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Fair

olive marlin
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Anyway, let's change topics.

worn ember
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yeah so bloodstone, whats up with lyfe

olive marlin
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Can we talk about how epic Proxi is?

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smh my head

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am redoing my PROXY protocol parser, dunno exactly how I wanna handle TLVs

warm anchor
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Proxi rielove

worn ember
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whats a TLV?

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Type-Length-Value, it's basically a key-value thing the protocol allows in v2

worn ember
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ah, i guess this is for velocity?

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nope

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this is the HAProxy PROXY protocol, written in Rust for my own use in nonomura, and apparently bol.com's use in something

worn ember
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bol.com? isnt that a dutch online shop?

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it is

worn ember
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thats kinda random lol

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I got an email from them a couple weeks back, they'd apparently PR'd to me without me noticing for a month

worn ember
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Too cool to look at pr's from big companies zoop

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just didn't have email notifs :p

worn ember
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i always see notifs on gh itself, but ig i dont have them flooded with issues and pings and whatnot

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I don't check my GH notifs either

limber knotBOT
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I'm using github notifs like social media

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worn ember
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best i could do is get the hangar readme noob friendly lol

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a contribution is a contribution phoslove