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hm not for me
not for me either
yeah mind if you provide research papers confirming this theory?
Thankfully android got a working permission system so an app can't just access whatever it wants, lol
but ur fine with the american companies harvesting it right
looks at android
looks at google
Look at it, what do you see?
Man, ppl are paranoid
Just because you think google tracks everything that doesn't make it truwb
They are really transparent with what they collect and you can easily view it
fair
One might argue more than any other company
And like everything got a toggle
You don't want google to know where you are? Turn that off. But then features like location history obviously get disabled too
Google uses your data to give you features
Google photos is a good example of that
They analyse all your pictures so make them searchable, group them by the persons in the photos, etc
(the face detection even works with pets, really cool)
yeah google photos is neat
ios photos app has a similar feature but its still pretty underpowered
Balkan Spinner?
balkan jenkins
Balkan HTML programmer
do you wan to make my HTML website look gud like that?
they hed be spinnin
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I just got to watch
this video right now
and I'm laughing
"Dinnerbone, I lead the armies of the PVP community! We demand to know how this will affect PVP!!"
THAT JAB AT THE 1.8 PLAYERS IS AMAZING
wait so you need your transaction id to migrate?
however ignorant the comments are, there is at least one person on earth more ignorant than that
likely a boomer
and probably in the USA, but i digress
who hurt you?
that's a diabolical stereotype - people of all ages have been spouting that crap.
welcome to the internet
I mean younger people are far more educated than older people
ahhahaha
smh my head
40 years of life experience means fuck all i guess
The numbers don’t lie
numbers of what
Well some people try really hard to learn among side the life and some people dont.
Education levels
so in a sense, the age means not much 
ded I know your brain can’t handle it
yeah i must be a boomer
since you seem to be unaware, the amount of people who are educated is increasing over time
the amount of people is increasing too 
39% of people 25-34 have a bachelors degree vs only 29% of people 65+ (in the US)
ok thats nice, maybe half the bachlors didnt exist 50 years ago
you can be educated and still think the world is flat
Yes, but the more educated you are, the less likely you are to believe in that crap
depends what kind of education you get
whats right is only a matter of perspective in some cases
either way, boomers r dum
its those boomers that allowed you to type that tho :p
The worth transfer is happening
So we will see how it goes
As many of them start to die off
tbh i think this generation will be more fucked than the one before us
okay ded
not all boomers are dum
But I’d say there are more dumb boomers as a percentage of their age group vs younger generations
when did you become such a boomer
I mean, naturally over the course of time average acquired intellect increases
i'm just being the devils advocate lol
Are you not aware that every generation has had entertainers?
Unless society is not progressing informationally
one could argue the opposite happens
Influencers are nothing new, they just have a better platform now

Well, statistically it's held true for the last 100 years.
people with low intellect have more children and pass their genetic traits
its not a troll dude, its facts

Unless you invent ways for them to not have offspring maybe 🙂
yeah cuz they're totally big brain enough for that lol
People of low intellect are at a lower chance of having a high paying job, and the lower that gets the more likely you're unable to afford children.
ded ur one of those small brain people
sure, but poor people also have to spend more time working, and less educting themself
so its a repeating circle
right...
Or potentiality rather.
that has been happening for a while but education rates continue to go up
wonder how that’s happening
when you've got everything you want theres no incentive to progress tho
hell, there are scholarships and grants for the poor and minority groups to help uplift them
Even in less developed countries the increase in measurable intelligence on average has continued to increase over time, for what has been recorded at least.
I know you’re not 😛
I mean it's not huge, in America for example the average is like +30 IQ equivalent over 100 years.
let me get all boomer on you here barty, i think people today have a real issue with listening. like i say something you dont agree with and instantly im stupid. "its my opinion and i'm right and everyone who oposes it is stupid" mentality really gets on my nerves lol (not you personally tho)
i'll gladly change my opinion on something if someone can put reason behind why i'm wrong, but lots of people dont seem to want to do that
because you just said you were playing devils advocate, so I assumed you were just disagreeing to disagree
to some degree yes
i just dont agree with simples statement that all boomers are stupid
and you haven’t really said anything that is anything but an opinion, so I’m not inclined to change mine
well, I don’t think he meant all
But it’s definitely higher rate of stupid people in that generation
You can see that just by looking at education levels
Or literacy rates
i think boomers aren't the only stupid ones. all people are dum
Yeah I'd agree.
hi
hey kashike ❤️
hi kashike
boomers are just better at being dum
mbaxter! ❤️
If anything the boomer generation has done more for improving education than current generations.
i guess they're good at what they do and dont care about much else
duck. 🦆
🐱

i blame disney tbh 
what the hell
So current generations are reaping the rewards for the previous generations hard work.
first kneny now you
I don’t think previous generations have left us in as good of a position as you say, at least in the US
i feel like people of my gen grew up with all the princesses and princes and "everyone is special" mentality that they think life owes them something
Education wise they have.
I just got WSL2 up and running and did a 100% fresh ./paper patch in like 4 minutes! Takes 20 seconds to run a second time without changes made! ❤️
ur my princess 🙂
dont worry about people too much guys. im sure global warming will spare us
You don't just magically get better education than the last generation, someone has to actually implement that.
no thx
i wanna shift spam on ur bed

Can you two just have sex already.
wtf dont say the s word
not on my Christian server
yes there are children here wtf
Oskar and Snoopa still asleep. It's fine.
not playing dota has been bad for you
thanks for making me remember they exist
they shouldnt
whether you should have children or not is an interesting philosophical question actually
that link is useless https://i.jamierocks.uk/mmxxi/iICnNXVR5f.png
Works fine for me
the second link isn't what I asked for
also covid-19 isn't a epidemic just occuring in the usa, so I don't like how localised those stats are - when the stereotype wasn't
Ah you got me. Guess I’m wrong because the study was only done in the US!
Considering like 1/4 of covid infections were in the US, it’s pretty relevant.
you're not necessarily wrong, but not all education systems are equal - so I don't see that are representational of the world at all.
boomers r dum
and honestly all that really shows is that more people are taking up degrees.
yup, that’s generally how education works, more progression in the education system = more educated
hence why I have only claimed that boomers are less educated, and that less educated people are more likely to believe conspiracies, therefore boomers r dum
I wouldn't say "far more educated than older people" at all though.
well by your logic I'm also dumb...
I mean, if believing a conspiracy theory makes you "dum", and if there are people in your generation that have believed that, and that factor makes your generation "dum", every generation fits that criteria.
this conversation is stupid
its is - though the boomer generation will also contain people from that 50-64 age bracket too. but I don't believe that having a degree == 'far more educated'
ur dum
Yeah that's my point. 😐
millenials are dum and zoomers are dum
papermc general all day
it is, its blatant age discrimination.
I said they are far more educated because far more people are more educated
Perma ban
rip party
I don't think my hint was received
I don't know if it's politics, maybe?
it’s not
let's not continue having this stupid conversation please
Education = politics
ahh yes paper
what are we allowed to talk about in the off topic channel
literally anything 
the latest yatopia update
who cares about that shitty project
Now that I have WSL2 running, what should I do with it?
I can talk about that one time a kid tripped over a rock and ripped his entire kneecap open over a piece of metal
@true canyon bitcoin
Uninstall windows.
every time you mention it, the more power it gets
😛
they got a fabric mod now too
Tell that to all my games that are windows only!
pls no
just use wine
I prefer gin
I know I'm mostly teasing, I have to use it to. Feels bad.
Or don’t play windows games because those are peasant games
Play outside fuckin nurd
Sounds right up your alley.
Back in high school I tried the "I'm so cool I do it all on linux!" thing, but I now know that's unattainable for what I want to do with a computer 🙂
I’d never want to use Linux on a personal computer tbh
Me tbh
Yeah I need it for work, and most games are windows only or console.
Linux is just so much configuring for little gain
Windows is pretty convenient for how awful is can be
You only use an OS no one else likes or uses then since you don't use Windows or Linux?
It's great if you like that but sucks for casuals
I used to dual boot because CraftBukkit creation required it (could be done WSL now, I suppose), but as soon as that was done I never booted linux again.
I dual boot my personal PC.
I dual boot windows and windows
I used to dual boot windows and OS X
Those were the days
On a tiny MacBook Pro hard drive
Linux/Windows, can do all my development stuff on both if I make some concessions in Windows, and can do everything other than play most games on Linux.
mbaxter what games do you play that are windows only?
Most games?
So I was drinking my coffee and then hit the cup unexpectedly and spilled it over all of my peripherals and wouldn't you know it, THEY ALL GOT LIQUID DAMAGE so I'm using a new keyboard and mouse now smfh
great saturday
It's easier to list the games that are not windows only.
That sucks simple
Good job simple
Serves you right for drinking liquids
I mean there is wine etc
I prefer to hydrate myself with solids
Suffer for drinking at your desk
.kill @spare venture
(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.
k

.kill party
gags and ties party then throws them off a cliff to their death.
Wow, simple came along and instantly kills the party.
why did you have to gag me for that
once WSL 2 has full microsoft-provided linux GUI experience I will see much less of a reason to dual boot
Weirdo
I'm asking for specifics because there's a chance that the games work on proton
You're such a drag. Gosh.
windows looks better than linux, is more stable, etc
right now it's still a bit annoying to run gui apps in WSL2 but it's not that bad
wym looks better? The look of linux is up to the user, if a linux install is ugly then that's the users choice
I havent found a single use for wsl personally
one time was enough for me not to put any liquid containers on my desk. last time I spilled something it ended with a damaged laptop (which somehow survived with little damage)
honestly I just want 2 computers
Yeah good luck spending 8 hours making it look half decent
I just want one, pls GPU prices go down
Here's one, and it's on sale! https://store.steampowered.com/app/1054490/Wingspan/
Wingspan - Relaxing Strategy Card Game About Birds for 1 to 5 players. The officially licensed digital adaptation of Wingspan, the winner of the prestigious 2019 Kennerspiel des Jahres board game award. You are bird enthusiasts—researchers, bird watchers, ornithologists, and collectors—seeking to discover and attract the best birds to your netwo...
$13.99
2155
85
or just find a theme online that doesn't look like shit
"users choice", yeah the choice is a UI that, while at times clunky, is designed by professionals working on it full time vs some people putting together some icon packs which don't work half the time, almost never install easily, clash with every fucking shell having it's own theming format, list goes on
Phanteks have heaps of dual system cases.
People love to hate on windows but it is pretty convenient and user friendly
I mean my second computer would be macOS instead of linux lol
I don't like dual booting and I don't do it anymore. I used to dual boot arch and windows, windows for gaming. But as of WSL2 the experience is fantastic. GUI apps in WSL2 are not quite plug and play but it's not difficult by any stretch to get it working.
Windows and Mac both "just work." And that's more valuable for me and my work than running pure Linux, which I also love. But I need it to just work without me having to spend hours tinkering (which is fun, but it has its time and place) so I can get things done.
Coming from a windows hater
see if linux could take over windows world would be a better place
Would it
Haha nice meme. Anyone that cares about Linux is a programmer or related to it. And we all know how good those are at designing
then I'd never have to deal with linux's annoyances, macOS feels enough like linux while still being beautiful
maybe
maybe
honestly can't argue against that
Whoa, no need for that kind of radical talk. 😨
Good morning Simple!
@warm anchor
macos is linux that people actually write software for, what can I say ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Don't mind me, just being mean to OSX
No hating on MacOS
I loved my 5fps on my hackingtosh
it does what it does well
fucking systemd is based entirely on launchd, which came from, you guessed it, macOS
I actually think the docker experience on macOS is horrible.
so kind of linux is becoming more like macOS over time
Boot camp is nice
most of the artist I know use MacOS
its not just something for programmer
their new ARM shit is actually super impressive
uses several macbooks for programming
someone just needs to make a team of good ui designers, etc etc and make a great linux distro that appeals to people used to windows
for soemthing fanless
Don’t a lot of CSE people use MacBooks?
gets paid professionally to write software and his work machine is a macbook pro
look at kde plasma/neon
Just expensive
The advantage Linux has over macOS for development, especially in integration testing is night and day
expensive is subjective
yeah apple knows how to make things pretty, and fuck me for caring about the shit that I use every day looking good
Although the new CPU seems like it’s making it a better deal
Someone just needs to hire a team to unshit windows
I agree about the aesthetics.
idk about you but I don't do integration testing locally
we use actual servers for that
no I don't mean just look at it, I meant look into it
I honestly prefer the aesthetics of the dell XPS laptops
because it's basically what you said
After owning both
James on budget there. Dont be too hard on him DemonWav
xDDD
not everyone has proper test environment
how about someone makes windows open source first
A couple of bigger projects I work on have comprehensive integration tests, it can often be easier to just run the specific tests you want to do locally.
But meh licenses
Docker makes that insanely easy, as long as you're using Linux.
*money
I mean you can compare the XPS to the MBP and I’d say one is overpriced compared to the other. However the new MBP CPU changes things a lot
@true canyon wingspan works fine on linux
I much prefer a testing environment you can replicate locally or on a CI/CD pipeline.
and it WILL pay off
With proton, sure, but not built for it natively! That's throwing an extra requirement in the way! 😡
Poop game
csgo is on proton?
well you can run it natively, but people have found it runs better through proton
it had a native port long before proton was a thing, did they give up on that?
no, it's still a thing
I always liked the Linux port better than the windows version because the input latency seemed lower
All Volvo games run on Linux natively
yeah I don't play it either, it's just an example of games actually running better through proton than natively
which is honestly funny af
Only thing that game gives me is furious rage
but it also shows that linux gaming is actually somewhat viable these days
How much work is involved in using Proton?
Ah nice.
you just have to opt into steam beta
That'll do it
Here's another one I play for memes - https://www.protondb.com/app/884660
Shame GOG doesn't have something similar, don't really like Steam.
man I hate all these other game launchers/libraries
I mean gog is fine because it's not really a steam competitor
but fuck epic games
I agree.
Epic store looks nice but it's such trash to use
Epic, Origin, etc
There was that April's fools joke for a launcher that manages your launchers
Epic's interface and functionality would be absolutely revolutionary in 2005.
Not enough interest
ugh
yeah
DIscord found out that people will pay to use weeb emojis
Tbh i didn't really like it
the server boost things helped them a ton
it wasn't very polished darkeye, but it had potential
Once I heard about GOG, I instantly jumped on because of their business practices.
Sure. But i use discord to chat with people. Not to play or buy games
I like GOG, I wish I'd have used it more over the years.
It felt out of place
Oh ok
but its functionality which allowed you to launch steam games, epic games, etc, from a single place
You see the huge thing about owning game on Dsicord is
that was useful
if your account got banned for any reason, you lose all access
Goes for any platform tho
you can buy games on discord?
you used to be able to jamie
Not anymore
GOG is DRM free. Once you buy the game it is yours.
That's cool
yeah but gog only sells weird indie games
You can be banned forever on GOG, as long as you downloaded the game, you can keep on playing.
interesting - I guess you just downloaded the installers?
on discord or gog jamie?
discord
no it functioned similarly to steam or epic
I know how gog works, I'm a big fan :P
Cyberpunk 2077 is considered indie?
didn't know cyberpunk was on there
By the amount of bugs. Yes
Many developers sell their games on there tbh
oh so you had to install their desktop client then I guess, eww 🤮
The only ones who don't are like EA and co.
nono jamie, it was built into the discord app
Which fuck EA.
I haven't bought an ea game since bf3
nitro subscribers would get a free game every month or week or something
can't remember the exact details
it was bad though
I only use epic go grab free games lol
Looks like BG3 is on there too
bg3?
cyberpunk is written by a company owned by the same parent as gog
Baldurs Gate
free games are cool, but I really don't like epic's business practises tbh.
epic is acting super entitled
I didn't know CDP owned GOG, interesting.
any difference between cd projekt and cd projekt red?
cdpr are the game developer I guess
I'm not certain of the exact boundaries - but as far as I know, that's it.
wait so are you telling me cyberpunk doesn't have drm?
I believe the company is just CD Projekt, RED is just a team within the company I tink.
think*
congrats on the new avatar, jamie https://i.imgur.com/PvJjDyZ.png
ah you look to be correct (https://i.jamierocks.uk/mmxxi/6xZFzNojn2.png)
was the cyberpunk source leaked or
I think the hackers said they sold it to someone
ah
don't think there has been any news since
yeah its been made clear to me that I have no power of how I'm presented on Discord, so 🤷♂️
they should’ve stolen the source of a game that wasn’t completely broken lol
might’ve gotten a higher price
I'm sure they made off with the source of the witcher 3 too
is cdr actively working on cyberpunk?
I think so?
fucking scoundrels.
I sure hope so because the game still isn’t really playable on console at all, and didn’t look great on PC
It still hasn’t been added back to the PlayStation store
rust on console soon™️
Well they'd have the money to do that.
I got it on Stadia, since there was a pretty good pre-order deal, ran pretty well there
They doubled their total sales in months or something insane like that.
and yet they still disbanded their internal studios
didn't even attempt to offload them as far as I can tell - bizzare
Even without all of the performance problems on console the game just looked very incomplete and unpolished, nowhere near complete
I meant Facepunch with Rust.
Yeah face punch really hit it big with that
really pitiful end for studios acquired by Google :(
the console thing has actually been in works for like a year
the recent blow up of the game didn't really affect it
I don't even know if facepunch is funding the console edition
a separate company is making it
Their assets were all shit from the unity store haha
there's still some remnants of those assets in the game I'm pretty sure
Probably
it's actually quite impressive how much content rust has these days
and they're still adding it
You used to be able to drive a red racecar around that devs would spawn in
well now rust has proper cars
Yeah I’d like to revisit it to see how it has changed, but I have to get a PC first, and these GPU prices are making that tough
you really need a team to play rust
I’m aware
my local store has 3090s and 3060s in stock
See I don’t need a top of the line desktop, I wanted to get something more reasonable and cheaper
is a 3060 considered top of the line?
The price is
I was looking more for something like a 1650/1660 super, or one of the amd cards
Those are only like $400-800
haven't noticed performance issues in any of the games I play
3060 is like minimum $1000, I’m not sure what it MSRP is tho
$329, Id go for that in a heartbeat if I could pay that little for it
Meanwhile you can get a PS5 for $500 that can do up to 4K @ 60 with ray tracing on some games, the GPU prices are just ridiculous
I thought ps5s were hard to get too?
They are, but seemingly more obtainable than those GPUs
And the scalper inflated prices aren’t that bad anymore
Crypto miners don’t need PlayStation’s, the difficulty is just due to high demand and low production
I managed to get one a week after release
The problem is there are so many companies competing for TSMC's business, currently anyone looking to get anything from them that isn't auto industry related is struggling.
Though that doesn't affect nvidia I don't think, they use Samsung
I think anyway
Oh nope, TSMC
Sounds like they were using samsung and are shifting to tsmc
Literally nvidia, AMD (2 generations of CPU's and GPU's), PS5, Xbox, all competing for it.
Ah could be
I could have sworn nvidia was Samsung.
Crap yield from samsung, it seems.
If the yield issue is giving them lots of crap binned stuff could that also explain their crypto cards? Like, lots of not-good-enough-for-gaming chips that are good enough to sell for mining?
Oh Ampere is 30 series, so 30 series are TSMC
So yea, nvidia (30 series), AMD (2 CPU generations), AMD (2 GPU generations), PS5, Xbox, Nintendo Switch (I believe), several large auto makers.
It's 2021 with good CPUs and wildly fast SSDs, and inkscape still takes measurable seconds to launch
Hi sekc
No u took too long soz
43 minutes !


at least they're bigger
That's what she said
Thanks brocc ur my favorite fruit
anybody know of a plugin that gives me the cordinates of every chest and shulker
how is it?
looks cute
how do i find peoples logout position?
It's actually quite good! Worth
essentialsX has /seen
nice
hon hon hon Z750?
meme from another server
hon hon we build our datacentres out of wood
baguette baguette eiffel tower
better than building them out of shipping containers, I heard?
microsoft is putting theirs under water
o no
clearly thinking ahead 
still MS
inb4 new advertising campains "our servers aren't on fire, but still very fast! 🔥"
like they need to compete with OVH lol
the only people using Azure are those who have no hope of ever escaping AD hell
MS is kinda killing it with azure
no one who cares about OVH is looking at azure or vice versa
Azure is cool
Better than aws for sure
Azure also owns 20% of the cloud market or smth, while amazon has a 1/3
Not even true tho
Ovh is like really small on the grand scale
Yes the are big in terms of physical resources, but others make way more money ^^
OVH and azure/aws/GCP are completely different things.
SGB2 (the one that burned down) had the Openstack instances SBG1,2,3,4 while SBG3 had SBG5 and 6
Not confusing at all
Ovh has similar offerings tho
Ovh is the old school hosting provider, offering raw power. But that's not what ppl demand anymore.
OVH is mostly dedicated etc, aws/GCP/azure are mostly VPS and managed services.
it did remind me to do some proper backing-up shit on my vps's at least :')
Ovh has a lot of vps and managed stuff
uwu
i now, officially, understand half of bspwms commands
https://youtu.be/JKf45ATgATc
Good morning
SpaceX is targeting Sunday, March 14 for launch of 60 Starlink satellites from Launch Complex 39A (LC-39A) at Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The instantaneous window is at 6:01 a.m. EDT, or 10:01 UTC.
The Falcon 9 first stage rocket booster supporting this mission previously supported launch of Crew Dragon’s first demonstration mission, RADAR...
Record turnaround time for a booster, 9th launch, exiting!
They took 10 days to refurbish the booster
Space uwu science rocket i like
The end goal is no refurbishment, falcon super heavy (the starship booster) will launch and refly with just refueling
If those raptors would stop burning already, pff
i mean, aircraft get regular maintenance after a certain # of flights, i imagine this will be quite similar where it does maybe 10-15 flights, then gets some maintenance, then out for another 10-15
Yeah
maybe more than 10-15 idk but regular iterative maintenance instead of after every launch
Sn11 launch early next week \o/
If static fire goes well tomorrow they can launch Tuesday or Wednesday iirc
i hope all goes well
I still love the name of the satellite dish u get for starlink
Dishy McFlatface?
what units are these in for the cloudflare traffic report thing
Traffic units smh
My guess is sessions or something like that?
Or just requests in general.
ok great i just found my transaction ID email from 2019
For CloudFlare that's hits
Requests
Whatever
So one page view has many requests, for the initial request and all the resources, subsequent views should not have to refetch the assets tho
thats quite a bit of hits then
yeah
huh
Hello, I need help, could someone tell me where to get help. Thanks
tried #paper-help?
lol
@visual egret, for comparison, this was paper last year https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/694994567132348447/unknown.png
what?
wow lol
uwu
very proportionate 
wat dat for
my server's traffic in january
uwu
I should consider changing my ssh port tbh
I just tarpit the default port 😄
how can i obtain the server jar source code that can be recompiled?
go on GitHub and read CONTRIBUTING.md.
sshd_config.d is a thing wtf
Michale 

MFW UniFi retroactively broke terminal sessions and ssh on EOL devices: 
Bruh.
They even broke wiping. EPIC.
Actually EPIC.
lol
I hear you like BRICKS!
Why can't a docker container have both host network and custom network 
How?
I can't find info anywhere - setting network mode to host automatically yeets the container out of any network.
I need to have node_exporter with access to host network and need Prometheus to be able to reach it. But that'd either require being in the same network, or extracting network gateway ip.
i add this to the bottom of compose file
networks:
default: # this is the default host network
external:
name: gateway # i dont think it has to be called gateway
internalprojnetworknamehere:
internal: true
then just add to the service definition:
networks:
- "default"
- "internalprojnetworknamehere"
works 4 me
then a dependent service is just on the internal network and it doesnt complain at all
@potent fossil 
Well, yes. But it isn't host network.
Default is just for all networks in given compose.
buy me nitro bby
Don't care
Hmm idk then
I need access to host network one way or another because of node_exporter.
node_exporter 
Include /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/*.conf :p
it's common to be in the default config, though
And so I could template Prometheus config and inject the default network gateway ip to it, since it's the host ip on docker bridge iface.
And access node_exporter this way.
But then I have issue that I need network to exist to template Prometheus config, and I need to bring up compose to setup network.
Hate chicken and eggs problem...
I saw PR that added special entry to docker containers pointing at host ip, but despite it being merged there's no info anywhere about it and it doesn't seem to work...
hello, did you know that 40 players can play on 200MB of RAM ? With a constant 19.9 TPS, i am using paper 1.8.9
Is that unmodified paper?
Who cares about playing without any features. Majority wants features.
yes Geolykt
everyone cause the pvp is better in 1.8.9
it's that why we have 60 players by day
Given that 1.8 isn't even on the list for Paper : https://bstats.org/plugin/server-implementation/Paper/580
And for spigot/bukkit it's less than 10%: https://bstats.org/global/bukkit
I don't think majority agrees with you.
Paper didn't have any specific bstats integration in 1.8 fwiw
And that people, is why you should have metrics on
Which ones? 🤤

Looks like dog food. 
whatever it's amazing how my server can support 40 players with 200MB of RAM i'm so strong wow
🤔

what ?
Double tinfoil hat moment.
On mobile it displays just fine.
i don't understand
you are either a troll or you don't know how to set/check how much RAM your server is using
no i have a constant 19.9 TPS
I mean, they claim they use a version of Paper which doesn't exist, so...
oh, just scrolled up now
lol
𝒙𝑫𝒓𝒂𝒈𝒊𝒊𝒊𝒆𝒆𝒆𝒆_: Just use Cuberite if you like low RAM
It supports 1.8.9 - 1.12.2, so it should be a win-win for you
We only talk 1.16.5 here.
What about 1.17?
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
In that case, there's Minestom for low RAM needs
lmao 1.16.5 worst version
Again, statistics disagree with you.
As far as I remember Cuberite, it was using 200MB+ just at idle.
Except for Cuberite there is no long-term actively maintained public server implementation for 1.8.9, which tells a lot
minestom 
1.8.9 servers still don't exist
?kick @gleaming plank https://tenor.com/view/16195074 nobody cares how well your 1.8 server is performing and how 1.16 is so awful and terrible
𝒙𝑫𝒓𝒂𝒈𝒊𝒊𝒊𝒆𝒆𝒆𝒆_#1699 was kicked | https://tenor.com/view/16195074 nobody cares how well your 1.8 server is performing and how 1.16 is so awful and terrible
Proxi 
Could be a debug build though, as far as I know these debug builds love to eat performance
Well. Cuberite is still unpolished as ever. Really wanted to see it get better over time.
Be the change you want to see in the world, it's an open source project
It sucks, but it shows how complicated a minecraft server is
but it has lua worldedit. it must be superior
Oh wow, Cuberite also has an IRC Bridge
Impressive world gen, if you disregard the trees
Balkan world gen
Trees and random mobs in the middle of nowhere. But otherwise I like the project a lot.
Nice
That's sick
I really wanna build a proper server impl too
what version is cuberite on?
They also have mobs teleporting up from the void: https://posili.me/i/2021-03-14_13-16-14.png
1.8.9 - 1.12.2
ah
But it wouldn't be tied to a protocol version, that would be stupid
They have a 1.13+ dev branch tho.
seems a lot of the server implementations out there are stuck on 1.12
Just translate everything from an internal data structure to each protocol
Does it compile though?
AFAIK it does.
And I want everything data driven
@vernal moth be the change you want to see
Wow, one of the few dev branches that compiles
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I just have too much i wanna do

And arguebly it's best for the community if i focus on hangar
pog geyser wtf
Bruh. Legit just upstreamed my fork of Geyser. Time to do it again I guess.
why do you fork geyser
balkan geyser
Krusic working on servers that use AuthMe
Bro.
proper BALKAN DEVELOPER bro!
BalkMe
@mossy vessel 
But like, my list of stuff i wanna work on includes paper, hangar, paperweight, MiniMessage, mapping viewer, minicraft (my server impl), godotcraft (my mc client in godot), voxelgamelib (my Minigames framework), generally game dev stuff etc
mc client in godot??
It's a never ending list, every entry enough for a full time job
sounds nuts
I got a mc client in godot, yes!
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/m4i3xu/experts_found_three_new_15yearold_bugs_in_a_linux/ 
That's when I wanna work on that again
Has some screenshots
god damn it
Time to see if they work on the most secure server I have access too. 
It's obviously not much
oh yeah they do but
you haven't implemented it

looked like cobblestone at first
but yes that looks awesome
I know ^^
Is there a web MC client yet? Like any version between 1.8 up to latest?
Issue is web doesn't support tcp
Ok make it Michael
But godot runs in webgl
udp to tcp conversion
You done yet Michael?

No udp either i think
lol there's a web client i believe
Just websockets which are strange tcp
TCP-over-WSS 
It works but you need a proxy
Doeable for sure
Again, as I said, it's on my list of stuff i wanna work on, and it's currently waiting for godot 4 to become stable
lol
Last time I checked out godot 4 the branch didn't even compile 😂
There are plenty of web viewers already
https://github.com/michaljaz/web-minecraft/blob/threejs-javascript/src/scripts/proxy/Proxy.worker.js
There's the wss to tcp proxy
Just uses the mineflayer bot framework, that's smart
yeah
But i wanna make the client speak normal tcp
that's really smart
Like the normal mc protocol
wait..
And this is exactly what I needed.
Just proxy that thru wss
Maybe?
Will it be better tho
It's just educational projects really

So Paper will become obsolete?
yes.
I don't have the resources to write a server impl that is better than glowstone I don't think so
Maybe I do, cause i wouldn't touch Bukkit
Idk
I first wanna see paper take over
Then I can look at new fun stuff
And for paper to take over, i need to work on hangar
And paperweight
And PRs
So those are prio for me rn
Glowstone doesn'T compile last time I tried
And I cannot even fix that since it uses that stupid automatic boilerplate code generator
On WEB CLIENT?!
You know it bro!
Bro.
Aura in spectator mode?
That looks like Russia flag bro.
You have to add banner. Make it look like Slovenia flag.
I assume it was trying to break a block, while it's not possible to break blocks.
No idea tho.
Anyway, back to yelling at UniFi.
I don't understand why i've been kicked i'm just sayin that i have a performing server in 1.8.9 with 200mb of ram with 40 players and a constant 19.9 TPS
with a quarter of the game's features lol
We do not like people using 1.8 and bloating how 1.16.5 is bad
but 1.8.9 is the best version for pvp
Yes, but not the best version in general
it is one of the most stupid versions to use for SMP
?kick @gleaming plank I'm feeling generous, so this is a last chance. The constant discussion over how 1.8 is so so much better is 100% unnecessary.
𝒙𝑫𝒓𝒂𝒈𝒊𝒊𝒊𝒆𝒆𝒆𝒆_#1699 was kicked | I'm feeling generous, so this is a last chance. The constant discussion over how 1.8 is so so much better is 100% unnecessary.
Shouldn't it be a warn then?
He's spitting false facts though
people don't care about warns, kicks generally put the "ok this is not going my way" mentality on it
also forces a break in the discussion, i.e. I break the flow of it
That is new
ion even get warnings cuz i have the bot blocked 
I don't get what they think they're gonna achieve by boasting about 1.8 lol
get people triggered ofc
Usually it enforces a "wow, they don't like a discussion, they must have a pretty bad moderation team" for me
i mean maybe it triggers some people but like ok what's your end goal
1.8 is one of the topics we don't want, especially with an asshat attitude. if you want to discuss old versions, other servers fit better for it
i heard the paperspigot server allows it
@warm anchor dota?
busy 

Out of RAM?
Probably just unmounted.
If unmounted, you should get empty dir though?
Depends on the FS driver.
tbh nothing, I just noticed that my symbolic links to the windows FS were red, so I checked out what's up
@twin lagoon docker-host is poggers: https://github.com/qoomon/docker-host
Just need to rememeber to allow it on your firewall.
1 docker-compose to rule them all!
oof my WSL local maven repo points to the Windows local maven repo, so I can't build like this
I guess time to see whether a restart fixes the issue
I don't understand why i've been kicked i'm just sayin that i have a performing server in 1.8.9 with 200mb of ram with 40 players and a constant 19.9 TPS
mod abooose!!!
Typical 
i don't understand why everyone hate the 1.8.9 version it's the best version for minecraft with 1.7.10
lot of features nice pvp
who asked tho 
under rated version
?ban save @gleaming plank Drop the god damn topic.
𝒙𝑫𝒓𝒂𝒈𝒊𝒊𝒊𝒆𝒆𝒆𝒆_#1699 was banned | Drop the god damn topic.
probably just wanted to see how fast he got banned for 1.8 circlejerk
There was another person just before them that said 1.8 is better and was thinking it might be a raid.
i mean if you still play 1.8 you must have braindamage
Fair
Anyway, let's change topics.
yeah so bloodstone, whats up with lyfe
Can we talk about how epic Proxi is?
smh my head
am redoing my PROXY protocol parser, dunno exactly how I wanna handle TLVs
Proxi 
whats a TLV?
Type-Length-Value, it's basically a key-value thing the protocol allows in v2
ah, i guess this is for velocity?
nope
this is the HAProxy PROXY protocol, written in Rust for my own use in nonomura, and apparently bol.com's use in something
it is
I got an email from them a couple weeks back, they'd apparently PR'd to me without me noticing for a month
Too cool to look at pr's from big companies 
just didn't have email notifs :p
i always see notifs on gh itself, but ig i dont have them flooded with issues and pings and whatnot
I don't check my GH notifs either
I'm using github notifs like social media
apparently cool things happen with me https://owo.whats-th.is/9qmtah3.png
best i could do is get the hangar readme noob friendly lol
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