velociraptors will attack
#general
ashen cliff
People just hating on goto because others told them to without a good explanation. SMH.
potent fossil
Velociraptors, krusic.
ashen cliff
I'd ride em.
zealous wedge
what did goto ever do to you?
potent fossil
This is why we have structured programming. Plz.
olive marlin
if/while is just a syntax sugar around goto, so they shouldn't exist in Java, as it's barebones. /s
potent fossil
@olive marlin
golden gust
be nice.
dull basin
Do you mean that they go up to surface?
visual egret
When you break a block and place it back, that block goes up
ashen cliff
The dropped item/block.*
visual egret
^
golden gust
yea, people often find that shit floating on top of the ground above
alternative is that the item gets stuck between the chunks and eats up time colliding with blocks until it turns atom speed
that would be fun
brb, rewriting minecraft using AGX multiphysics
ashen cliff
I remember PocketMine not having item gravity, so it was legit unplayable. Then someone made a plugin that teleports the item down and got banned (for a some other thing that they did). Very epic days.
visual egret
what things did they do ๐
ashen cliff
No idea, since all of their forum activity got wiped.
visual egret
krusic ur lying
potent fossil
Last time I was there they didn't have mobs and then gaslit the users for asking about it
visual egret
you probably have the entire forum downloaded
ashen cliff
Perhaps.
But I abandoned that project after even the basic Survival stuff didn't work. As Simple already said, they didn't even have mobs.
That was around the time one of the main devs quit or something like that.
void void
I will replace double brackets by one brackets in the documentation (no today) ^^
I have found while reading articles that it creates a derived class and indeed it is bad. either it concerns only the documentation
worn ember
Epic gamer moment
Tbh i don't even know. I usually just do my shit without libs. Good old html and css
potent fossil
ah yes
vernal moth
That doesn't scale for big web apps sadly
potent fossil
hangar in html and css
vernal moth
Unless you wanna go down in jQuery hell like we used to in 2010
worn ember
Yeah. But i never had to deal with those
Only big project i work on now uses ASP. That has normal css and razor as templating wich is just html with some extra stuff
But yeah. Not ideal either tbh
Did some node stuff. Not very scaleable either
worn ember
guess i'll give vue a shot
worn ember
i just need to unshit mini's design
fallen oracle
Ahh
vernal moth
For that you mostly don't need vue, just a thick layer of css ๐
worn ember
thing is, all css is generated
vernal moth
Yes and no
Check the vuetify docs, they have a section about themeing
Where you adjust stuff, but mostly we will be overriding stuff
fallen oracle
I've come to learn Vuetify lately and damn it's cool
worn ember
https://vuedose.tips/theming-using-custom-properties-in-vuejs-components/ something like this then?
visual egret
Is there some kind of plan to start using Optionals in the paper api?
golden gust
no
visual egret
ok
golden gust
jsr305 is enough without blowing out extra unneeded crap into the heap
worn ember
i wish cat was optional
visual egret
react looks epic so far
they released that mc java emulator for android to the google play store
their discord is going insane
worn ember
who's discord
olive marlin
jsr305 is enough without blowing out extra unneeded crap into the heap
Sounds like Java could work on specifying "niches" for optional, like Rust does 
For a lot of things, wrapping values in Option in Rust doesn't increase its size.
golden gust
ideally we'd just get nullability as part of the type system
think that there was a JEP for that
olive marlin
Because you can specify niches - like wrapping "non-zero" int - then internally Option will use 0 as value for None/null.
golden gust
or JSR at least
olive marlin
Oh, yeah.
golden gust
but, unless they can do it without an ABI break, i doubt we'd ever adopt it
the annotations work fine and any competent IDE understands them
olive marlin
One of the main reasons why I switched to Kotlin - so that I can't be stupid and need to handle cases where it really can be null.
But they don't work at runtime in paper.
worn ember
if(null) yeet
olive marlin
So I got null from bukkit method marked not-null before.
golden gust
I mean, if you find cases where the nullability is wrong we can fix it
being frank, the person who added the annotations seemingly had very little time actually working on the API
worn ember
ur just using kotlin to make up for someone elses mistakes
olive marlin
I'm using Kotlin to not have to write thousands of ifs checking for nulls.
golden gust
yea, my mother is a victim of that mistake too
"oh, yea, we'll just skip the condom, we should be fine"
worn ember
woven otter
well better be that than incel gang 
void void
out of curiousity... what is the best minecraft anti cheat?..
most of the anticheats i've seen are pretty bad at their job
it's rare to find ones which are good enough on some servers, i've noticed
sleek dune
void void
Depends what kind of server you run etc.
what if, for example i was running a kitpvp server?
olive marlin
Iirc the AAC is a bit better suited for pvp servers.
void void
ig im going to see which one performs, brb, imma put them through tests
olive marlin
Try and see :)
upbeat lagoon
some matrix versions are stuffed af, cuz sometimes I see fly hackers on bedwars without drawbacks
ashen cliff
Daily reminder Anything + NCP.
olive marlin
Daily reminder Anything + NCP.
Not AuthMe + NCP?
ashen cliff
Always AuthMe + NCP.
golden gust
you are both prime cases for post natal abortion
ashen cliff
Who asked for your opinion Brit?
golden gust
Listen here, slav
Don't you got some microwave coil or something to turn into a long distance communication array or something dangerously crazy but odd for the sake of a youtube career
ashen cliff
Been there, done that.
Why do you think I buy random MikroTik stuff?
Because it has no limits!
untold copper
henlo
ashen cliff
How to get WiFi 2km away.
Don't worry, totally won't make you throw up while standing next to the station.
ashen cliff
Fact.
That's why we are permanently drunk.
But we must include the disclaimers for non Slavs.
golden gust
warning: may taste like throat removal
left swift
Bro
golden gust
hai
left swift
Henlo cat
ashen cliff
warning: may taste like throat removal
If you are lucky.
Most of the time, it just ends.
left swift
That's the worst kind of time
digital ruin
what will happen if spigot stop?
golden gust
nothing
ashen cliff
Hard fork. 
olive marlin
Paper hard fork 2022?
worn ember
@warm anchor system is rigged
twin lagoon
https://github.com/codieradical/MineOnline neat project
seems to have implemented MSA auth too
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> system is rigged
wtf
twin lagoon
vernal moth
Heh somebody copied my shitty code
left swift
<@!177150983258767360> system is rigged
V E R W A T C H
twin lagoon
i have truly entered 2010
left swift
Oh god that's so nostalgic
worn ember
<:OMEGALUL:699936275204931704> V E R W A T C H
its dota
golden gust
left swift
Overwatch in csgo is good
worn ember
its the same system tbh
left swift
Probably
worn ember
probably
i love getting reported for playing
i did call some russians commies but thats just facts
golden gust
2021
left swift
Fact bro
worn ember
yeah ig thats why i got reported
left swift
Cat facts dot com
worn ember
for spitting facts in 2021
worn ember
limber knotBOT
left swift
Mojang never make mistake
worn ember
what is their launcher even built in?
golden gust
I wanna say electron
worn ember
lol
limber knotBOT
I mean it's a dll ๐
worn ember
C#?
vestal jasper
Cef reee
peak ginkgo
<:worksonmymachine:585532628611104788>
I love this emote
golden gust
Well, the thing that's installed manually is really just a bootstrap for the rest of the stuff
vestal jasper
Everything is a browser window with extra steps
worn ember
ur a browser window with extra steps
vestal jasper
Ty
limber knotBOT
I'm a browser
worn ember
browse me daddy
void void
whats hangar do?
worn ember
soon to be papers plugin repo
void void
oh got it
woven otter
Why do you think I buy random MikroTik stuff?
Because it has no limits!
wait wait whaaaaat
ashen cliff
๐ฆ
dull basin
holy fuck, Mojang pushed the bugged launcher beta to stable
Me using multimc
Use multimc
limber knotBOT
you can't even login with it ๐
worn ember
use roblox
dull basin
you can't even login with it ๐
Wtf? I can
golden gust
They don't support MSA logins
limber knotBOT
try using a Microsoft account
worn ember
wait does the vanilla launcher have MSA already?
golden gust
yes
limber knotBOT
so your use case is completely invalid
worn ember
limber knotBOT
nice
golden gust
new accounts are MSA accounts
limber knotBOT
go shill somewhere else
worn ember
didnt know
minor badge
Mojang's launcher supporting a feature Mojang released? 
twin lagoon
multimc 
limber knotBOT
(besides the fact that MultiMC can't even load Mojang launcher profiles)
dull basin
MultiMC isolates instances so you won't have messed up mods folder
twin lagoon
yeah it's great
worn ember
2
olive garden
1
worn ember
Happy new year
untold copper
MultiMC is pog
peak ginkgo
MultiMC isolates instances so you won't have messed up mods folder
I only use 1.16 and 1.8 so this isn't a concern to me 
My 1.16 fabric mods go in .minecraft/mods
My 1.8 forge mods go in .minecraft/mods/1.8.8
everyonnes happy
limber knotBOT
I just use different game directories ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
(I only use latest anyways lol)
golden gust
fabric doesn't support the version stuff which is a pita
untold copper
its very cool for mods
golden gust
gotta have seperate folders, which, I mean, i guess
limber knotBOT
yeah, I loved that about LiteLoader ;_;
dim shadow
good morning paper fanbois and fangirls
upper flicker
vernal moth
MultiMC isolates instances so you won't have messed up mods folder
I mean the official one supports that too
left swift
(see what i did there)
No wat did u do
dim shadow
do u not sip mana
left swift
tropic flame
it's interesting how powerful an equalizer can be lol
I just made some 8โฌ earphones sound almost as good as the ones that came with my phone
left swift
dim shadow
im not fully awake today ;-;
untold copper
thats my secret
golden gust
when are you ever?
untold copper
I'm never fully awake
dim shadow
im usually awake but i think today half my brain is still in bed
waxen panther
<a:pokiModCheck:795208229134008330>
next frost
I just made some 8โฌ earphones sound almost as good as the ones that came with my...
almost as good as the ones that came with my phone
you see why?
untold copper
halp
untold copper
When you gonna unleash your full power Snoopa
Soonโข๏ธ
waxen panther
thank you for posting this message in papermc the dota community server ded 
dim shadow
love that song
worn ember
read the description of the channel smartass
worn ember
i dont see minecraft either
waxen panther
and
vernal moth
Can confirm, dota is banned
left swift
<a:modCheck:682652577481228311>
waxen panther
league only 
vernal moth
Sooo, who wanna play support for my next draven game?
dim shadow
r we talkin about the song the game or some1 named dota
vernal moth
We actually talking about the only dota version worth playing: the mod
left swift
We're talking about lambda wars
dim shadow
was it warcraft?
warm anchor
thank you for posting this message in papermc the dota community server ded <:PM...
No one goes to reddit dota Discord 
It's a dumpster fire
dim shadow
maybe somebody needs to go put the fire out
left swift
Ur the water go fire
dim shadow
i was gonna call 911 but i do have a lot of water in stock
waxen panther
aowoauwraoa 
mental meadow
does buying broken phones/computer parts/gaming consoles etc to try to fix them to practice electronics sound like a good idea
vernal moth
was it warcraft?
Of course, any good game has it's root in warcraft 3
mental meadow
brocc uwu
left swift
Do yall gamers know who semphis is from csgo
vernal moth
Line tower wars is still da shit
dim shadow
does buying broken phones/computer parts/gaming consoles etc to try to fix them ...
yes lol thats how i learned to build pcs... granted i shopped exclusively @ thrift stores cuz poor family from poor country
warm anchor
does buying broken phones/computer parts/gaming consoles etc to try to fix them ...
That sound a lot more advanced than just practice electronic lol
mental meadow
i mean
left swift
does buying broken phones/computer parts/gaming consoles etc to try to fix them ...
Yes
mental meadow
depends
visual egret
the linux gods hate me
warm anchor
I'd say maybe some household appliances
dim shadow
find xboxes/playstations with bad cd drives lol those r ez fix
warm anchor
they are simpler compare to like console lol
golden gust
run reset or open a new terminal
mental meadow
I know how to fix household stuff and stuff, and I did learn IT system integration, so the goal is to get more advanced ๐
tropic flame
> almost as good as the ones that came with my phone
you see why?
tell me why, i don't know. to force me to buy more expensive ones?
left swift
It's even better to practice on working electronics then panicking after you put it back together and it wont turn on and you need to fix it before mom comes home and beats you again for breaking the 3rd laptop that year
mental meadow
I fixed a few phones, stuff like switching out displays and stuff
warm anchor
I know how to fix household stuff and stuff, and I did learn IT system integrati...
Better yet film yourself doing it and upload to YT. Those video do get views if you explain what you are doing and the process.
Can be a fun project (?)
olive marlin
Well, you'll learn to diagnose failures and common issues, but I don't think you'll learn much electronics.
dim shadow
@left swift dam son lol
mental meadow
Another reason is to maybe sell it for a bit more ๐
dim shadow
^^^
golden gust
depends on what you're looking into, really
mental meadow
Like I found 15 broken tablets on eBay for 1โฌ and half of them seem to just have a broken battery or smth
golden gust
things like consoles are much more documented than say like televisions
finding faults is often a fun battle of understanding how to use tools like a meter and the caveats of it
left swift
Refurbished laptops sold as chromebooks on facebook sell for 150% more than retail chromebooks
twin lagoon
@mental meadow 
warm anchor
A lot of new TV are made so you just buy a new one now... they dont care about letting people repair it :<
golden gust
components these days are also heavily SMDs so replacing chips, if you can find them, is often a ballache
But, for a lot of shit like TVs, its generally something dumb like a blown cap
mental meadow
yeah I'm mostly looking at older stuff rn
golden gust
maybe the PSU died
peak ginkgo
Where's that paper fork(?) that uses MojMap? I've got a free day and I want to play with it.
mental meadow
something like PS1s
golden gust
it's on a branch
peak ginkgo
TV's are cool because 90% of the time it's a dead capacitor
left swift
What about the other 10%
mental meadow
yeah but TVs are huge and I don't really have much space
So fixing phones and old consoles is better for me ๐
dim shadow
What about the other 10%
tell customer buy new tv
mental meadow
now I just need to get some
peak ginkgo
tell customer buy new tv
this
I've been doing a little hardware stuff, fixing xbox controller drift- mostly
warm anchor
I still dont get how people can break a TV... or I am just lucky
never broke one in my life...
dim shadow
LOL
dim shadow
๐ฎ
visual egret
i need to center it tho
dim shadow
is that liek particles
visual egret
its fireworks
olive marlin
Using my fork of jmp's fork of a fork of a forked firework plugin.
visual egret
also btw theres an error in there
something to do with sound, i just removed the line and it fixed it
dim shadow
of a fork.
visual egret
of a fork.
tepid turtle
of a fork.
dim shadow
of a forแต
wide chasm
does buying broken phones/computer parts/gaming consoles etc to try to fix them ...
I have no experience in electronics, but I've repaired broken gaming consoles before without any issue. Not sure how much practice it really gives, but it shouldn't give any issues.
golden gust
fixing phones is generally ass unless you get into microsoldering or are just replacing shit that comes in one
like, a cracked screen is trivial to fix if you're doing a full glass/frame replacement
left swift
Do it like a rubik's cube- get someone else to smash it up then you try to repair it without peeling the stickers
golden gust
but, like, if something else went pop, it's generally ass to replace
like, many phones will have usb boards which can be replaced
dim shadow
i used to get a new phone when i cracked my screens but then i realized no matter how many times u swipe its not gonna microcut ur finger so then i just left it cracked
golden gust
but, I've had one phone where there was different versions of the usb board with different antenna lengths, etc
it's all fucking fun
dim shadow
lol wat
golden gust
I erm, sorta like...
I mean, it was a board with sorta like two distinct sides, one for the antenna and one for the USB stuff
so I may or may not have snapped the board in half
wide chasm
Yeah, I don't do any soldering are replacing specific parts on a board: if some part on a motherboard is broken, I replace the whole motherboard. I imagine if you do replace components on a more granular level, that would give more practice.
golden gust
really depends on your ability to actually find parts, etc
like, many components are marked but if some smd chip fails, unless it's some standard off the shelf part you're generally gonna be replacing the full board
it's generally a game of lottery and gaining experience with specific failures, etc
also, remember, if you ever get into macbook repair
step 1 is to always yeet the jtag connector
that's the signs of a true profesh
worn ember
if you want a cringe name just name it broccolai
visual egret
no thats too cringe, even for me
dire yew
If anyone here has any experience with sponge plugins + forge mods please pm me
jade flax
sponge has a discord
dire yew
oh yh
visual egret
What hologram plugins would you recommend? I've been using https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/holographic-displays for a few years now, is that a good one or is there something better?
untold copper
Thats the best
visual egret
Thats what i thought so im just asking just in case :p
vernal moth
Just spawn an invisible armor stand yourself, smh
tropic flame
yeah just keep using HolographicDisplays
ashen cliff
Cat better make the UK join the EU this instant, otherwise I have to pay 35% import taxes.
left swift
U pay taxes?
ashen cliff
Yes.
vale rune
@ashen cliff visits Kosovo once and now we have election fraud all over the place bro.
limber knotBOT
not cool
meager tusk
<@219443401974611970> visits Kosovo once and now we have election fraud all over...
Fact!
ashen cliff
Weird bro.
Bro. Don't tell them bro.
twin lagoon
aslong as you have the money for it
twin lagoon
you managed to find my message but did not read it
meager tusk
Then you're not Balkan.
twin lagoon
if you don't have a 4 to 5 digit budget i wouldn't expect much
there's plenty of cheaper build teams
zealous wedge
does a 4 digit budget count as big?
twin lagoon
for a build team
yeah it'd probably count as a reasonable amount of money for most servers
zealous wedge
idk sounds fairly normal for a moderately-sized commissioned creative work
vale rune
@meager tusk bro.
You know well those 400k weren't the actual amount bro.
The propaganda number .
vale rune
Gone bro, like ลฝeljko Arkan's video arkiva .
Following the Geneva conventions only on public footage .
meager tusk
untold meadow
is there a quick way to get javac to compile everything in a directory recursively? i fucking hate makefiles
zealous wedge
have Make invoke ant or maven or gradle or whatever
untold meadow
lmao i WISH zml
vale rune
@meager tusk this you?
meager tusk
Never bro!
vale rune
POV: Actual #adorable-pets.
zealous wedge
but actually kezz iirc javac can accept a text file with a list of class names or sth?
untold meadow
yeah guess im gonna have to make a text file
or just .class somewhere for all the classes that aren't compiling lmao
im having to use makefiles and junit console standalone
this is pain
vale rune
@meager tusk bro!
untold meadow
yup thank you zml! it does take @args!
zealous wedge
whee
sage pier
is it practical to use mohist for a forge smp?
sage pier
eh im more looking for optimization than plugins
golden gust
many of the "bandage" forks basically hack around a ton of crap
sage pier
what can i do for forge server side optimization?
wraith trail
none of the combo projects do any optimizations afaik
just attempt to provide the api
zealous wedge
then you'll want forge-specific optimization mods
sage pier
basically im looking for lithium but for forge
golden gust
I mean, maybe if you're not using bukkit stuff, might work, but, really ^ is the better option
We're not a forge community
sage pier
oh i just thought this was a good question to ask here
zealous wedge
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/lithium-forge there's always forge lithium lol
sage pier
1.15 :(
keen aspen
what are some good dedicated hosts you guys recommend?
sage pier
dmc, bloom
wraith trail
those are not dedicated hosts
formal turret
aren't those shared? lol
sage pier
oh my bad i thought he meant dedicated cpu
wraith trail
ovh support is kinda awful, pnap has great support but an awful billing system
both are generally fine though
sage pier
ovh ive heard has slow cpus but i really dont know
wraith trail
ovh has many offerings
untold meadow
yeah ovh/hetzner are basically the best options for dedis
just make sure you're getting a machine that works for mc
and not some dedi with a 10 y/o intel server cpu
solar whale
Not sure if it fits in here, but i build this little tool to visualize render distance: https://viewdistance.com/
quick pasture
Sorry, new users can only put 2 links in a post.
:(
olive marlin
Not sure if it fits in here, but i build this little tool to visualize render di...
Halp, I can't reduce the view distance now.
ashen cliff
When did Hetzner update the EX62-NVMe line?
ashen cliff
128GB.
twin lagoon
wat
ashen cliff
Instead of 64GB.
solar whale
Halp, I can't reduce the view distance now.
ah shit
twin lagoon
oh tf
ashen cliff
twin lagoon
i think the 9900k has always had 128
ashen cliff
I would if I could.
twin lagoon
y
olive marlin
Michale 
twin lagoon
ashen cliff
Because it's not economically viable.
ashen cliff
Because it's not economically viable.
This.
twin lagoon
how is it not economically viable
mental meadow
Michael ๐
ashen cliff
Because at my current usage, I could even downgrade to a AX51-NVMe and not experience performance issues.
twin lagoon
twin lagoon
Because at my current usage, I could even downgrade to a AX51-NVMe and not exper...
so go for an AX line server
wraith trail
well sure but if he's already paid them once
ashen cliff
Even if I switch to the AX51, I would only save 10โฌ/month. So I would take me like 7 months for it to be worth it.
And the fact that the AX41-NVMe runs hot AF... can't imagine the other ones.
Any questions? No. Epic.
main flicker
Aikar youre a fucking genius because paper is the best
cunning raft
lol
main flicker
XD
ashen cliff
Daily reminder only the lead developer matters.
golden gust
We don't even have a lead dev
wide chasm
If there was a lead dev, it wouldn't be you cat
runs
golden gust
thank god for that
cunning raft
it would be leaf
zealous wedge
JRoy is lead dev
upper flicker
quasi valley
z750 is the helper here, if you have any question, direct them towards him
upper flicker
yes
wide chasm
Yes, chatcolor2 finally
upper flicker
please send them to my DMs
cunning raft
please ping him with any help request
cunning raft
or if Z is not available, spotedleaf is his personal secretary
upper flicker
free 1:1 support
limber knotBOT
Real men only show TPS
wide chasm
I restart server, but lag no gone, lag still on server
quasi valley
"the support queue is full, please wait for your turn - your current queue position is very high"
wide chasm
when is gen2, can I gen2?
upper flicker
gen2: https://www.gentoo.org/
golden gust
10/10 support, do recommend
upper flicker
u think ur serbr lagg becuz is sad?
mayb u unplug serbr n go 2 couch
watch sum veggietales 2gether
feel betr
quick pasture
I has clearlagg but my survur still lag of Slimefun!1!!
woven otter
z is dum
upper flicker
now z am sad ๐ฆ
wide chasm
z also need couch
woven otter
dum taco man
wide chasm
oh no ๐ฆ
upper flicker
wil resume after ducc stew
woven otter
nice try z
main flicker
which open jdk is the best for 1.16.5 paper?
wide chasm
11; hotspot
main flicker
of thanks
woven otter
hotspot ๐
wide chasm
Don't mind Duck, he's just thinking about the hot stew he'll be in
main flicker
ouu
woven otter
umm moderators bullying? that's abuse
wide chasm
That's the perk you get with this role
woven otter
excuse me admins. I would like to report moderator abuse
golden gust
abuse implies a human on human interaction
upper flicker
wut u wan report
mental meadow
abuse implies duck having any sort of rights
woven otter
wtf? expect PETA
mental meadow
dude my father is a butcher PETA would kill me anyway lol
golden gust
PETA?
upper flicker
does that mean you can get us some special deals aurora? ๐
woven otter
we do not forget. we do not forgive. expect us or smth
wide chasm
This is what happens when you make Duck mad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5NTgZA-xWE
upper flicker
the silence on that special deals question is deafening ๐ฆ
golden gust
stealing my foods food
mental meadow
does that mean you can get us some special deals aurora? ๐
yes
I do get everything for free so I can sell it for 95% of the original price to u
main flicker
what nashorn engine means?
mental meadow
funnily enough that means eating a steak for me is cheaper than anything else
main flicker
warn
upper flicker
nashorn is the javascript engine
mental meadow
please
wide chasm
No, it's deprecated iirc
mental meadow
provide less information
upper flicker
its getting removed in ... 16?
there's a JEP for removal already approved
just dont remember what it targets
olive garden
wow stef speaks this weird language
mental meadow
I think it is already gone with 15
upper flicker
if you stay on Java 11 you can ignore it for the time being
wide chasm
For now, it will work as expected
golden gust
it's stef
upper flicker
at some point plugins will have to use rhino
golden gust
tf do you expect
olive garden
good question tbh
wide chasm
I've helped people find their plugins folder for three days, I've practically become one with them
limber knotBOT
Nashorn is gone in 15
wide chasm
They didn't even manage to find it, after three days they just gave up
I provide installation instructions for my plugin i.e. drop the jar in your plugins folder, but even that isn't enough
limber knotBOT
what setup did they have in order for this to be an issue?
olive garden
do you guys listen to music while doing the coding part of your work?
wide chasm
Yes
olive garden
bit of a random question, I know
but I just realized that I've been doing this non-stop
mental meadow
yea
upper flicker
music yeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
limber knotBOT
yes
upper flicker
or a video that isnt too attention grabbing in the background
formal turret
music all the time
wide chasm
I could never watch a video in the background, I can't even listen to some music without being distracted
upper flicker
I mean I can do it without, but it seems to help
nova plume
i just found my old xbox 360 in the garage
upper flicker
luckily there isnt much "true silence" in the world so there's always some sort of background noise
otherwise I'd just have the ringing in my ears
magic river
Only use for ducks
woven otter
hello mods. I would like to report someone breaking the rules
woven otter
hello discord mods. i would like to report someone breaking the rules
modest path
what did you do to the duck
wide chasm
I see animal cruelty, where's my ban hammer /s
woven otter
why are you eating
oranges withduck
ftfy
modest path
i'm a no name? >: (
woven otter
yes but you're literally a printer
upper flicker
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visual egret
printer stop running out of ink
upper flicker
wait they're an inkjet printer?
oof might have to go with ducc on this one then
now if they were a laser printer, probably go with the printer
upper flicker
inkjet printers just that annoying
modest path
i am an inkjet printer
merry talon
ahem
modest path
i will steal your money
merry talon
PC LOAD LETTER
woven otter
something must be wrong
you are wrong
radiant comet
uhh, not sure where the best place to report members is. any specific place i should go?
limber knotBOT
what memebers?
modest path
me
minor badge
@radiant comet dm a moderator ^^
radiant comet
awesome, thanks :D
minor badge
sure :)
woven otter
snitching ๐
woven otter
hello admins. I would like to report abuse
modest path
Woahh
visual egret
what causes this to happen? im not asking for support, im just curious why its -1?
olive marlin
Did you set it to -1 hoping to disable it?
golden gust
race condition
server took too long to tick but when it got to dumping, the server had marked it started a new tick
unreal quarry
formal turret
intellij loves distorting my audio after i finish typing something
modest path
Anyone know of a good java-based discord api that has slash command support?
I'm so tired of waiting for jda and javacord
don't say make a pr
formal turret
""make a pr""
modest path
gonna bitch and moan
magic river
TIL 2021-03? means "maybe that month", 2021-03~ means "around that month", and 2021-03% means "maybe around that month"
modest path
2021-03~?%
wraith trail
Anyone know of a good java-based discord api that has slash command support?
however not official yet
magic river
And things like 2021?-03-08 means "we know it was March 8th but not sure about the year"
modest path
essentialx discord????
wraith trail
any sane library wouldn't really support it yet in their stable releases at least as the api for it is still actively changing
modest path
magic river
(this is the ISO 8601 standard)
modest path
didn't know that haha, i thought slashcommands was stable by now
guess i'll stick to js or something
wraith trail
they're gonna make it look like this https://www.figma.com/proto/5sqKAzU4B0i8rFZ8btIErB/Slash-Command-Intermediate-States
magic river
1985-04is used to indicate that an event occurred during a particular month.1985-04-XXindicates that it took place during a day in that month, although the specific day is unspecified.
wraith trail
and acknowledge is going away, along with some other stuff being replaced
don't remember exactly
pastel lodge
how insane is this?
magic river
2021-03-01/2021-03-08 means between the 1st and the 8th, 2021-03-01/.. means it started on the 1st and is still ongoing, and 2021-03-01/ means between the 1st and some unknown date
This shit is bananas
You can have /2021-03-08 too which means unknown start date but it ended on the 8th
magic river
And you can mix the previous ?~% in with this, of course
ISO-8601-1:2019 is fine, that's the "here is how to write a date and time" stuff
This is ISO-8601-2:2019, extensions
dim shadow
ew no lol cat i just looked it up
woven otter
how insane is this?
do you really need to post that in multiple channels
dim shadow
2021-03-08T20:18:46+00:00
golden gust
sexy af
pastel lodge
do you really need to post that in multiple channels
i mean i posted it after someone told me not there but then the conversation just moved back there and now its back here and now its confusion
dim shadow
2 long doe
woven otter
fair enough
dim shadow
isnt there a long limit on sexy
magic river
And of course Y17E7 means year 170000000 but Y2021 is invalid as you can only put the Y for years with more than 4 digits
magic river
1950S2 means it's somewhere between 1900 and 1999 (two significant digits are known) but we think it's 1950
magic river
And of course we all know what 2021-21 means, the 21st month of the year spring
They realized the problems with that but kept it in, in the same spec they put in 2021-25 which means spring in the northern hemisphere
Oh god they have a shitty replacement for cron in here too
FREQ=DA;INTR=8 means every 8 days
golden gust
i have no idea why but the first thing that came into my mind was stuff like IBM mainframes
dim shadow
da for daily and intr for interval? makes sens
magic river
My first thought was JCL so yeah
golden gust
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golden gust
that's only 65k per square meter
dim shadow
isnt that country like all rich ppl neighbrhoods
worn ember
yeah pretty much
dim shadow
i think they showed it in iron man, looks like nice country
worn ember
normie mc devs wont get to live there
dim shadow
its ok lol would we even fit in with the borgoeise
i sure wouldnt
but to visit doe sure
worn ember
id be glad if i ever made 65k a year
magic river
Monaco is only not France for some weird historical reasons
worn ember
let alone pay it for a square meter
dim shadow
id be glaf af if i made 65k just once
worn ember
i mean thats a normal year salary here
dim shadow
nice xD
avg here gotta be at most half that much lol
damn lemme go on pcpartpicker and see what all i could get for that much
merry talon
think as humans we need to adopt it into our daily lives
i solely write dates in that that format already
magic river
TIL Monte Carlo used to be named The Den of Thieves but a part of the agreement for building a casino there was renaming it ๐
magic river
Last year it was a $2k pc ๐
magic river
I was making a joke about CPU and GPU prices lately
dim shadow
lol yea i was like where all the series 3000s at
worn ember
no motherboard?
dim shadow
zenith II xtreme mobo
worn ember
oh missed that
wild escarp
2 64" monitors lol
worn ember
man imagine runnin a server on a 64core pc
yeah except it'd still run like shit lmao
magic river
It's 2009 ๐
dim shadow
pretty sure they invented multithrededing by 2009
magic river
Yeah but not in games
magic river
Like, some stuff was on other threads for sound and junk but that's all client side stuff
merry talon
wat
magic river
XB1 and PS4 forced them to do it more because their CPUs were 8 cores meant for tablets
merry talon
gaming has been a thing since the 80s
magic river
lol the 80s
worn ember
didnt you read what i said?
magic river
Pong came out in 1972
worn ember
idk about you but i dont think putting a cartridge in your console and waiting 20 minutes for it to be playable falls under modern gaming
dim shadow
i think he meant modern gaming xD
magic river
The first home game console came out in 1972 as well
dim shadow
like online n shit
zealous wedge
modern gaming has been around as long as personal computers have been around
merry talon
there is nothing that separates 'modern gaming' and 'not modern gaming'
worn ember
your problem tho, not mine
dim shadow
u can divide it into eras doe
magic river
Younger folks split it between before PS1 and after PS1
dim shadow
is ps1 included in the b4 or after .-.
worn ember
my first games i played were mostly on cd's
magic river
More realistically "modern gaming" is usually whatever your first game console was
magic river
First one I played on was a 2600, first one I had was an NES
dim shadow
mi neighbor had a nes lol that was cool
worn ember
never owned a console in my life lol
dim shadow
wed play mario & contra all day
magic river
You could also split things between before 3D acceleration and after but then what about Star Fox? ๐
worn ember
i got my first pc in the late 2000's and been a pc gamer since then
magic river
Or the fact that the PS1 didn't have a depth buffer so doing proper 3D was a bitch and a half
dim shadow
yea 3d is a good pivot point
magic river
Or rather, doing 3D with textures
worn ember
i miss the times where they could fit entire games into 64kb
magic river
A screenshot of Super Mario Bros is bigger than the game is
worn ember
lmao
dim shadow
they should make laws where games can only be up to certain size
worn ember
now we have shitty electron apps eating 2gb of ram and games being 150gb to install
dim shadow
;-;
magic river
Discs are terrible if you want a small game
dim shadow
my web browser just eats 40%+ of my ram no matter how much ram there is
worn ember
i mean, times change, but i really wish people would spend more time optimizing
magic river
1 because games expand to fill the space available and 2 they're slow enough that you need to duplicate data rather than seeking long distances
dim shadow
im no longer a potato user but still 100% team potato
worn ember
im casually using 20gb of RAM and i'm not even doing anything insane
load stuff into ram then
instead of saving it twice
magic river
I have 3 electron apps and Steam (CEF, basically electron) open plus a bunch of utilities and 2 Firefox windows with a bunch of tabs, using 15GB
worn ember
same lul, i mean i do have a few intellij windows open
dim shadow
32gb ram 1.6ghz cpu wat
worn ember
its current clock speed
dim shadow
ohh okok
worn ember
its a 4ghz i7 6600k
worn ember
my gpu is the lowest spec in my pc, but i dont really need anything fancy
i dont really play that many gpu intensive games
magic river
i5-7600K @ 3.8GHz, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 3TB HDD, GTX 1070
I want to replace basically all of this but parts are impossible to buy
dim shadow
i still cant believe nvidia and them r letting this shit happen doe
worn ember
crypto's is what needs to die
dim shadow
no pls
merry talon
I want to replace basically all of this but parts are impossible to buy
could try to snag a 3080 from linus
magic river
Eh
dim shadow
lol yea linus got all the 3080s
magic river
I want a 3070 or a 6800
worn ember
AMD gang
dim shadow
1 video he talkin about all the crazy shit, next vid he buildin a pc wit 2 3080s
dafuq linus
magic river
Odds are I'm going to end up with whatever comes out after this stuff
Which is probably better anyway because the next AMD CPU will be on a new socket
magic river
Old mining GPUs are junk
dim shadow
or maybe itll become a thing where miners get all the new gen stuff & gamers just get used to second tier second hand ;-;
magic river
They've been running at or above their max spec 24/7 for 6 months
worn ember
ive been told they usually underclock them to expand their lifespan?
magic river
I suppose it depends, I've heard sometimes it makes sense for them to overclock instead
worn ember
yeah ig it depends if they want to burst mine or have a long time plan
dim shadow
Electromigration decreases the reliability of chips (integrated circuits (ICs)). It can cause the eventual loss of connections or failure of a circuit. Since reliability is critically important for space travel, military purposes, anti-lock braking systems, medical equipment like Automated External Defibrillators and is even important for personal computers or home entertainment systems, the reliability of chips (ICs) is a major focus of research efforts.
o dam
tidal nova
hey, i have a 4.2 ghz 6core and 12 thread cpu and 16gb of ram at 3200mhz, do you thing its ok tu run a paper server, 10 plugins and 5 players?
magic river
Raising the voltage makes it happen faster
iirc at least one generation of Intel CPU allowed for "stable" overclocks where you could get the voltage so high you'd actually see this happen in like a year
merry talon
must have been haswell
magic river
It was Northwood
merry talon
oh wow lol
magic river
What ends up happening is over time to run stable you have to keep increasing the voltage for a given frequency until eventually it's either too hot to work or dies completely
But in modern CPUs unless you're doing something extremely weird it should take at least 5 years to have any impact and 10 years before you'd likely notice it
worn ember
worn ember
wtf is this cyber bullying
unreal quarry
potent fossil
california has one, sounds like ass if you arent going at least 100mph
warm anchor
Your ass makes noise simple? runs
potent fossil
i will shoot you
zealous wedge
isn't the one in california built wrong?
there was a tom scott video on one of them that was badly made
potent fossil
Technically yes because it's built for a speed higher than that road's speed limit
So legally, you'd never hear the proper tune
zealous wedge
ah
potent fossil
But if you break the law you can
zealous wedge
mmm illegal music
zealous wedge
2009 was such an innocent time
potent fossil
It really was
worn ember
no
hot hamlet
Heres a question guys. Do you think that a 5950X Running 5 servers (Bungee and 3 Minigames servers + Main SMP) Would run better than having the SMP on its own 9900k.
I would say yes because It certainly has the cores and its single threaded performance is better. However would having the other servers running aswell cause a slowdown?.
Current setup is SMP which is the main focus on 9900k
and The 4 minigames/bungee server on a EPYC 7742
potent fossil
We really cannot answer that
We don't know how intense the minigame and SMP servers are, so there is nothing to say neither for bad or for good results.
ashen cliff
Multiple machines is almost always better due to cache and bandwidth.
worn ember
your cache or mine?
ashen cliff
OUR CACHE!
worn ember
magic river
cunning raft
nfts are so stupid holy shit
magic river
merry talon
yeah nfts are super weird
on the other hand, diamond hands paying off? :PauseChamp-1:
oh okay discord
cunning raft
brainstop
cosmic raft
magic river
cosmic raft
what the fuck
cunning raft
THE TESLA OF CHICKEN