general

[untold meadow]

i mean you might be better off going and having a look at the code and see what it is sending

[limber knot]

BomBardyGamer: if you are looking for how the Vanilla server calculates that data then just look at how the packet is constructed by the server

[waxen schooner]

the chunk data in Anvil includes a byte array called "BlockLight" lol

that might be the source of my information

[waxen schooner]

wdym how it's constructed?

[limber knot]

exactly what I said

[waxen schooner]

you talking about me booting up my Kali VM to look at Mojang code again? lol

[limber knot]

in java (and probably most oop languages) creating a new object instance is called "constructing"

[minor badge]

nobody cares how you look at it

[waxen schooner]

ah right, that's what you mean

sorry, got a bit confused

[limber knot]

hence I mean that you should look at where it is pulling the data from when creating a new packet of that type

[ashen cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C-RoDtqdJ8

Epic intro.

[limber knot]

wow, the only places that have the 3060 are 200 bucks above msrp wtf

[ashen cliff]

Give them a moment.

[visual egret]

wait the only reason people are buy this gpu is because its a budged gpu

what are the scalpers trying to achieve?

[ashen cliff]

Mining.

And people paying more than it's worth for it.

[limber knot]

yeah, miners will buy up scalped CPUs, they don't care lol

a couple thousand bucks more or less in initial investment doesn't matter at the moment

[mossy vessel]

Producing like 10 and claiming out of stock within minutes, classic.

[visual egret]

hi nmf

[ashen cliff]

No. They just produced 11 and the rest were the mining edition.

[limber knot]

msrp on nvidia.com: 599€ price on nvidia suggested retailer: 786€

[ashen cliff]

Actual price: 999€.

[limber knot]

yeah

how tf is nvidia still suggesting retailers that are actively scalping? lol

[ashen cliff]

Because Nvidia is also profiting from scalpers and miners?

[limber knot]

not really? they get the same amount no matter how much some random dude on ebay sells them for

I mean if insiders at nvidia are re-selling shit on ebay for double the price then that would be pretty big news lol

[cunning raft]

MSRP is a common practice phoenix

[waxen schooner]

instantly regretting deciding to work with lighting

[limber knot]

yes, and it has to match up in a certain range with what you pay for in the shop, pretty sure there are consumer protection laws about that

[cunning raft]

MSRP laws are made so small retailers cannot be made extinct by big companies taking losses

[limber knot]

nvidia isn't even claiming that this is msrp: https://i.phoenix616.dev/gonD32RZ.png

[merry talon]

that's a cute card

[limber knot]

they straight up lie on their site

[cunning raft]

I'm struggling to see the lie

[limber knot]

https://i.moep.tv/gghIvFn5.png the price is actually 786€

it's literally false advertising

[merry talon]

jesus fuck

for a 60 series card

[limber knot]

and that's the pre-scalper price

[waxen schooner]

wait what's this? a new NVIDIA graphics card?

[limber knot]

that's the "it's not currently in stock and we don't know when it will be again" price lol

yes, the rtx 3060 releases today

[merry talon]

releases

https://tenor.com/view/sarcasm-sign-quote-gif-10836119

[mossy vessel]

I want a 3080 and not be scammed with a box filled with stones, someone can help me?

[ashen cliff]

🧻

[twin lagoon]

no

[waxen schooner]

these numbers are just getting a bit insane now lol

[mossy vessel]

[twin lagoon]

imagine not having a 3080

[ashen cliff]

Imagine not having a RTX A6000.

[mossy vessel]

Driving me nuts

[merry talon]

this is truly a terrible time to build a pc lol

[vestal jasper]

Imagine not having a voodoo 3

[haughty creek]

@minor badge

[merry talon]

[mossy vessel]

If someone sends me one, I reward them with 1€

[minor badge]

ok

[vestal jasper]

It's paper not minecrsft-server

Afaik

[haughty creek]

@minor badge

[minor badge]

stop

[limber knot]

totally not fishy

https://is.paper.sexy/ggaI300t.png 👀

[merry talon]

[cunning raft]

he is denis

[ashen cliff]

Hello Denis.

[waxen panther]

Hello max

[ashen cliff]

Anyway: https://posili.me/i/2021-02-25_15-55-11.png

[waxen panther]

Programming new firmware

[haughty creek]

why is it so?

[warm anchor]

hes getting the boot

[haughty creek]

did as i was told

[rugged imp]

Is anyone using the Brewery plugin?

[waxen panther]

No you’re ignoring half of what we’ve said

[rugged imp]

Because I don't know where I can find support for it

[waxen panther]

I’ve used it a bit klien

[limber knot]

.g brewery bukkit plugin

(phoenix616) https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/brewery

there it is

[haughty creek]

for example?

[rugged imp]

Yeah, I need help with it, since I can't add any drinks

[waxen panther]

I’m not going to spoon feed you xww

there isn’t a support server, on the spigot page there’s a wiki link though

[merry talon]

but that's what you're supposed to do for little babies

:(

[haughty creek]

what are you talking about?

[waxen panther]

:(((!!

[warm anchor]

No in UK they toss babies out in the depth of winter and they will have to survive themselve

that's why brocco is so tough

[haughty creek]

LOL

You are funny

[waxen panther]

exactly

just like the Romans

[haughty creek]

You even could not even understand that I speak English badly and it is hard for me to explain my problem, although I sincerely wanted to know from you how to really compare everything correctly and finally do it!
Thanks google!

[merry talon]

wh-

[limber knot]

extreme confusion

[haughty creek]

What the hell mean "baby"?

[warm anchor]

Well learn English

I bet there aint many English native here aside from Brocco and zzzcat runs

[waxen panther]

the unlucky ones

[merry talon]

there is a difference between having bad english and just being unapologetically stubborn and scatterbrained

[quasi valley]

and those can't speak english properly anyways

[warm anchor]

LOL

[limber knot]

I think Sweepy is a brit

[merry talon]

[limber knot]

Only a british person can use those words

[warm anchor]

:exposed:

[waxen schooner]

lol

[haughty creek]

In general, you keep bending your stick. Stubbornness - because I want to achieve what I want, despite some kind of English. Edison lit his light bulb over a thousand times, and he eventually succeeded, but what kind of discord experts confuse me with you is stupid, you have such a disgusting mentality, sorry of course, but someone will help me or not

[merry talon]

-_-

[limber knot]

how about just stopping the tandrum?

What the hell do you want to do?

Why not use the far easier to get spigot-server artifact?

[waxen schooner]

https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

[limber knot]

that's even more wat Geo

[waxen schooner]

oh yeah, Geo

why did you put my server impl on the top of the server list on wiki.vg btw?

[waxen panther]

WOT

[quasi valley]

no U WOT

[upper flicker]

they really can’t

[limber knot]

Because all new servers were at the top

So I thought that it would make sense to have the new implementation at the top, well, seems like I was wrong

[waxen panther]

listen here bruv I am da best fuckin englishh speaker ever.

[waxen schooner]

Cam said it was a bit of a dick move

[limber knot]

I don't even have an affiliation

[quasi valley]

literally half an hour later some other random person put themselves at the top

[limber knot]

I'm just a developer

[quasi valley]

do it alphabetically or gtfo

[waxen schooner]

fair enough

[warm anchor]

time to look through brocco's gifthub and send in PR for grammatical typo

[waxen panther]

I don’t think anyone cares about that list anyway

No pls eternity

[limber knot]

The list of cheats is a bigger issue imho

[waxen schooner]

I mean, my server barely functions as it is anyway, so don't think it really deserves to be on top

even if that list means nothing

[limber knot]

It still triggers me though that the list has no sort at all

[visual egret]

or make a chart script in js that lets you sort by all the data

[upper flicker]

Is this about the server list wiki page

[limber knot]

The old impls in the middle, the new at the bottom and the semi-new at the top, like WTF?

This makes no sense

[waxen schooner]

no idea

[upper flicker]

I seem to recall that page being a bit of a mess, editors constantly fighting over it

[haughty creek]

@slim nymph please, go to private messaging, really need to help

[waxen panther]

lol

this guy

[limber knot]

oof

[visual egret]

bruh

[limber knot]

I vote to kick that person

[waxen schooner]

let's not ping random people for no reason

[waxen panther]

thank you bardy

[waxen schooner]

where's ?votekick when you need it xD

[limber knot]

Geolykt: they already were kicked and didn't learn lmao

[visual egret]

i sense a ban

[warm anchor]

He's really asked to be banned lol

[visual egret]

or another kick

[limber knot]

https://files.geolykt.de/Screenshot from 2021-02-25 16-15-44.png to see what I mean

[waxen schooner]

yeah I see what you mean

maybe we should categorise them into active and inactive ones

and maybe also obsolete ones

just to make it easier

[visual egret]

the python implementation is great, i can just have a spare motd "standby" server

[limber knot]

yeah, the list hasn't been updated for ages

[waxen schooner]

https://i.imgur.com/JJtK6tq.png okay this line is world class

[limber knot]

it should have servers supporting latest Minecraft at the top, then active -> inactive and in that category alphabetically

[waxen schooner]

"you run the risk that they will read your source code" lol

[visual egret]

only a risk when you have a closed sourced custom server

[limber knot]

And there is only one closed source server on there iirc

[visual egret]

why is bukkit not on the list

[limber knot]

And another non-open source server by ... you guessed it - kangarko

[visual egret]

wat

[limber knot]

It's NMS-Based

[waxen schooner]

because that's not what this list is for

[limber knot]

also you might want to sign your discussion pots with --~~~~, Geo ;)

*posts

https://files.geolykt.de/Screenshot from 2021-02-25 16-15-44.png

Yeah, I have forgotten that

Earlier I used 3 tildes instead of four and was confused why the timestamp didn't show and blames preview mode

[waxen schooner]

right, any servers supporting the latest go in the top category, then servers that have active development but don't support the latest go in the next, then the one after that is for servers that support old versions and aren't being developed anymore

that sounds like a good layout

[limber knot]

Uhm, I meant to send https://github.com/kangarko/Rush, Linux copying is a bit strange

[waxen schooner]

also, imo, only open-source servers should be allowed on this list, since isn't that what this is all about?

[limber knot]

Now, what is open-source?

[waxen schooner]

wat

[limber knot]

Since WTFPL is not open source, would you consider a WTFPL-licensed server as open source?

[waxen schooner]

WTFPL?

[limber knot]

A joke license that is basically CC-0

[waxen schooner]

I just count open-source as anything where the source code is... available... openly...

e.g. on GitHub, GitLab, BitBucket, etc.

[limber knot]

well "openly" means that it uses an open source license

Then, is all rights reserved with disclused source open source?

[magic river]

OSI or bust 😛

[limber knot]

accessible code != open source

[waxen schooner]

true

[cunning raft]

50th license debate this week

[magic river]

WTFPL is borderline

[upper flicker]

OSI seems to be the common determination, I'd stick with that

[waxen schooner]

anything that openly permits the values of open-source counts as open-source

[limber knot]

pretty sure WTFPL is technically open source, it's just dumb to use as you are liable and shit

[magic river]

DFSG is the real gold standard

[limber knot]

There are many joke license, just as the beerware license

[magic river]

But most people go with OSI because DFSG says some FSF licenses aren't free software so...

[waxen schooner]

generally though, anything that's under MIT, Apache, Mozilla, GPL, or some derivative of those (such as LGPL) counts as open-source

and the BSD license I think

[magic river]

Not all of the BSD licenses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses#4-clause_license_(original_"BSD_License")

[upper flicker]

it's time for a history lesson with daddy amaranth

please walk us through the clusterfuck that is the BSD license family

[magic river]

Ok I guess it still counts as open source but it's so impractical you should never use it

Oh, did you know there are two MIT licenses? 😄

Well, there are several but there are two in wide circulation

[waxen schooner]

anyway

[limber knot]

X11 and MIT or what?

[waxen schooner]

let's not get into the details lol

and anything older than 1.8 should either be put into an archive section or just outright removed

like 1.3.2

that is of no use to anyone anymore

[magic river]

Yeah it's the Expat license and the X11 license

[cunning raft]

that's not true

[waxen schooner]

alright, maybe a very very small minority of players

[cunning raft]

people may want to look at old protocol implementations

[waxen schooner]

or that yeah

[cunning raft]

and idk why you're talking about this here, the wiki has a talk page for this

[waxen schooner]

true

[cunning raft]

especially if you're planning reworking the entire thing

[magic river]

They are almost the same but the Expat version says you can't use my name to advertise your fork

[limber knot]

And then there are implementations like Truecraft that are specifically build with legacy versions in mind

Also BomBardGamer, you can "sign" your changes via appending "~~", if you don't want a timestamp, just "~"

[magic river]

neat https://github.com/MCHPR/MCHPRS

[waxen schooner]

ah right

I gotta learn how MediaWiki works lol

so far, I've just been looking at other things and copying them

[limber knot]

does anyone know if it's possible to only route a subdomain through cloudflare while leaving all the other dns records with the original name server/record manager?

[twin lagoon]

i have no idea why you'd want to do so

probably not though

[tropic flame]

so we're talking about licenses again?

[twin lagoon]

nope

definitely not

[tropic flame]

where's the #backseat-lawyers channel

[limber knot]

Nope, just stopped

[magic river]

https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines

[limber knot]

Michael: because I only want cloudflare to have control over that subdomain and not touch the rest

[upper flicker]

it isnt possible no phoenix

[magic river]

Just follow that and you'll be fine

[upper flicker]

there may be some way to kludge it up but Im sure they'd say they dont support it

[magic river]

Oh, and immediately stop all usage of CraftBukkit, Bukkit, and any derivative works

[limber knot]

I like point 9

(pure opinion, please don't debate this)

I'm just a bit surprised I can't just set the nameserver of the subdomains to theirs and it works

[untold copper]

what is these guys problem AAAAAAAAAA

[cosmic raft]

It literally says why it was rejected?

[magic river]

If your modpack doesn't show up right in the curse/twitch client they don't want it 😛

[limber knot]

First reject?

[magic river]

Nah that's like the third

[untold copper]

why can't you just put a .zip

[limber knot]

because they want people downloading their software

it literally does say that in the rejection notice

I suggest reading

[untold copper]

what does manifest.json do

[limber knot]

https://i.imgur.com/QToGlAB.png 2 irc accounts?

they simply want that people can auto-install all mod packs of the site

[spiral robin]

@twin lagoon @cunning raft @waxen panther

[untold copper]

ooh

that... makes sense

[magic river]

Guess you've never used the twitch client?

Used to be called the curse client

It lets you install mods for a bunch of stuff, install the free twitch prime games, and watch twitch streams

[limber knot]

you mean the Overwolf client?

runs

[magic river]

Oh, and some social crap no one uses

[untold copper]

I've never used it

[limber knot]

it's just the Twitch website + mod launcher

Yeah, Curse was bought be Overwolf a few months ago

• game launcher

[magic river]

Uh, Curse was bought by twitch like 3 years ago

[limber knot]

Maybe even a year ago, idk; time flies fast

[untold copper]

I have to now figure out how to make "Client modpack files from within the Twitch Desktop App"

[limber knot]

but games are in the Amazong Gaming App now afaik

*Amazon lol

Yes, but they got bought by Overwolf not so long ago

technically twitch sold the curseforge part of curse to overwolf

[magic river]

Then unless they recently deleted their client and started over from the overwolf one they aren't related

[limber knot]

gamepedia was sold before that to fandom

I think the overwolf curseforge client is based on an old version of the curse client? not sure

[magic river]

That I could see, they forked at the point twitch took over

[limber knot]

Oi, TimTower is an admin now

TIL that curseforge has among us mods

they ahve like everything

I wonder if one can auto install that with their launcher

[magic river]

I'm kind of surprised they haven't tried to take on nexus mods at some point

But the two sites appear to have mostly just split the mod market

[limber knot]

because people I play with keep struggling to install among us mods lol

[magic river]

Well, not fully split, all the good mods are on Lover's Lab

[limber knot]

oof, the curseforge launcher requires overwolf :S

[magic river]

Oh yeah, that's the shitty mumble client, isn't it?

[limber knot]

no, it's their app/overlay framework/catalogue/store

meh, they don't support Among Us, guess I'll just write my own lol

sad

[vernal moth]

Tfw you accidentally delete a deployment and not a pod in prod

Uuuuppss

[spiral robin]

[vernal moth]

Wasn't me

[ashen cliff]

Remember: Never take responsibility.

[spiral robin]

Deny everything.

[upper flicker]

blame cat

[vernal moth]

I can't see downtime

Idk what you talking about

[limber knot]

well, it's restored now

[upper flicker]

alright now that youve fixed it

time to write a 20 page incident report

get to it

[limber knot]

so not an issue at all that this ... unfortunate issue happened

[vernal moth]

Idk 4 min latency seems pretty nominal

[magic river]

4 minute latency seems okay

[vernal moth]

After all, i wrote the app 😂

[limber knot]

[Instana] Issue Closed - Pcs-ae-prod: OpenShift DeploymentConfig "prod-xxxxxx/xxxxxx(deploymentconfig)" - Available replicas is less than desired replicas

:D

issue opened and closed automatically

[vernal moth]

And well, originally i wanted to delete one pod because it seems to missbehave, my boss alerted me

So now i told him I took care of it 😂

[worn ember]

"I took care of it boss"
deletes prod

how do i check who commit a commit? I have the commit hash

[limber knot]

git checkout the commit, then git log

[golden gust]

git show #####

[limber knot]

That sounds better

[visual egret]

Anyone know how i should go around implementing auto update for a plugin

[worn ember]

smh its my employer who broke a feature lul

time to yell at him

[waxen panther]

ok

[worn ember]

shhh

[warm anchor]

Ded just got ok’d

[olive marlin]

By not doing it?

What exactly you want to do?

[visual egret]

I have 1 plugin that i want to have on every server in my network, and i want to keep it up to date with the newest version

[olive marlin]

Probably need to figure out the bukkit plugin update folder. And best is to make your plugins available somewhere else than spigot so that you can actually download it (GH releases?)

[warm anchor]

Oskar do your mom know you auto upgrading plugins? She’s gonna be disappointed

[visual egret]

probably github actions

but another issue, this is a private plugin

[olive marlin]

Well, what you can do (in general) is have big bucket somewhere (or http server or whatever). Have 1 folder with all plugins you use on all servers, and then have separate folders per-server where you symlink to plugins you want to use on that server.

And then in startup script, download all plugins for that given server from whatever you have.

Can also have a list of them per server or whatever, ig

[visual egret]

ok that sounds good

[olive marlin]

Basically - one place you put plugin jars and make server startup script handle downloading from there, if plugin jar changed.

[visual egret]

and im planning to use pterodactyl, and iirc that uses docker right? would that make it any easier or give some alternative solution?

[wraith trail]

ship the plugin in your image

[olive marlin]

I use docker without ptero, my startup script in the image handles such things.

[golden gust]

it uses docker but it's not really akin to using docker

they're just using it for isolation, not the fancy docker gains

[limber knot]

pretty sure it has support for such things, you just can't use a standard egg

[olive marlin]

Ptero has eggs which i think have some ways of injecting startup scripts and whatnot?

[wraith trail]

yes they do

but iirc that's only run on container creation, not after

[olive marlin]

Would probably need to crate custom egg, ig.

[wraith trail]

and the way it's designed iirc it's only meant to be run for creation, not after

[limber knot]

just change the startup command

or if you need to mount a local folder then I think the way is to use a custom docker image which provides that https://i.minecraft.ceo/giO6ljvH.png

oh wait, ptero has mount management built-in

just mount wherever your plugins or your update script/program is into all server containers and then run those before the actual server start command

[visual egret]

so create a docker image, send it to some webserver and then whenever i want to i spin up new instances?

and that docker image has updated the plugins

[twin lagoon]

you use a docker registry for that

not some webserver

[olive marlin]

You might be able to just replace startup script.

Use docker image for adding the startup script, use some webserver or a bucket from where startup script will pull plugon updates.

Michale

[twin lagoon]

[limber knot]

https://github.com/directus/directus/pull/4291

man

I love open source software where the maintainers are paid to work on it

[cosmic raft]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5251#issuecomment-786052767

[waxen panther]

idk kash

you could melt down a chocolate teapot

make somethin nice with it

[golden gust]

how long until I can get easter eggs?

Sounds like a viable alternative in the meantime

[visual egret]

a teapot made of chocolate could be useful if you want to self destruct into chocolate tho

[untold copper]

chocolate is the best

[visual egret]

dark chocolate > all other chocolate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6R-9MaeSN0&ab_channel=NestléUKI

[limber knot]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5249 lmao proxi

pretty sure kangarooooo is banned on github

[cosmic raft]

banned from github itself? o.O

[vernal moth]

No our github

[cosmic raft]

no

[vernal moth]

I think i remember smth

Ah ok then it's ok

[cosmic raft]

nope

[minor badge]

I don't really care if he's banned either

[vernal moth]

Me remembering something is always dangerous 😂

[minor badge]

we can't do shit with a plugin that we can't access when he's known to use a lot of hacks and shitty practices

[twin lagoon]

red is opensource iirc

ah no it's not

[vernal moth]

Lmao michael

[golden gust]

I wish github would step down on people abusing github issues

[vernal moth]

Chatcontrol red is the "let's make more money by rereleasing Chatcontrol as a new resource"

[visual egret]

isnt chatcontrol red free for people who bought the premium version of the original?

[spiral robin]

🤡

[vernal moth]

Why would they cat? For github, it's still a user, that drives new users/engagement

[upper flicker]

they're pretty good if you report people

[visual egret]

and users eventually learn

[upper flicker]

they're not at all proactive about anything

[visual egret]

sometimes*

[golden gust]

because it's fucking annoying and people who are doing shitty things should fuck off

[visual egret]

i think ive backed everything up cant wait until i forget something

[cedar spade]

improved the screenshot

no need to thank me

[visual egret]

wow

[twin lagoon]

needs more jpeg

[visual egret]

such epic

[spiral robin]

Yolo11

[waxen schooner]

why

[upper flicker]

glorious

[waxen schooner]

I wanna know how tf you even did that

[twin lagoon]

microsoft paint

[waxen schooner]

[spiral robin]

why does noxcrew discord not let me say "michael uwu"

it says watch your language

😔

[limber knot]

uwu banned I guess

[vernal moth]

I approve

That's reason to join the discord

[olive marlin]

#paper-help but timings generally

[tranquil bone]

We have finally been able to buy the Reliablesite server we wanted after comparing twenty servers for half a day worth of time.

Now... we're running into peering issues. Is there anyway to fix it or is it lost cause?

Bit disappointing. Takes five seconds for it to resolve

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-secret-life-of-pets-max-sigh-l4JyRqcDU93S334KQ

[golden gust]

I mean, it's RSes peer

RS would need to speak to them

There is literally a reason why nobody sane recommends RS these days

[tranquil bone]

What other reasons are there electric?

[golden gust]

I mean, literally their peer

it's trash, and they seem to do literally nothing about their peer having been shit for like, how many years now?

cogent or whatever it was called?

[twin lagoon]

reliablesite is trash

[golden gust]

think i was using their miama DC or something, and their sorta like singular peer there would generally be fine, but, at some parts of the day practically without fail it would shit itself

don't get me wrong, otherwise, RS is fucking awesome and I couldn't ever not have them in my recommendations list

if they'd fix their fucking peer

[tranquil bone]

Michael did tell me that he wouldn't recommend it, took it to heart. Didn't know it would literally take five seconds for the server to show up...

[spare venture]

unreliablesite

[tranquil bone]

That's going to be a killer if we host servers for others

Well thanks for the info, cat

Gonna try to get a refund on their non-refund policy 😢

[twin lagoon]

yeah reliablesite is just a big hit or miss really

[spare venture]

good luck

some people dont have problems with them

[twin lagoon]

pretty much ^

[spiral robin]

use contabo

[twin lagoon]

hence some hosts use them

[spare venture]

but when you do, it sucks. and it seems to happen to a lot of people

[twin lagoon]

aber

[spare venture]

their support is responsive but they are very bad at actually solving problems

[golden gust]

#348681414260293635 message

[tranquil bone]

I don't have access to that channel, cat 🙂

[mossy vessel]

Cat's private litter box

[olive marlin]

Admincraft.

[golden gust]

yea, admincraft, only place I could find one of the RS peeps

[untold copper]

lets hope they don't reject this

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[ashen cliff]

For?

[golden gust]

"simply" would be my guess

if i had to based on the 0 info there, but, yolo

[peak ginkgo]

"Literally Amplified Modpack"

https://u.dejay.dev/📻🏯😧.png

just share what it says

[golden gust]

google

[spiral robin]

@real comet

[golden gust]

We're not your personal support agents and using locked up stuff like onedrive or google drive is generally dumb

[minor badge]

wtf thats so rude cat

[golden gust]

but, like, if you google, there are tools out there for that

[upper flicker]

I used to use this for onedrive on linux https://github.com/abraunegg/onedrive

worked pretty well all things considered

[golden gust]

The tool which z mentioned is literally the 2nd result on google

I also said in my name to not ping me, so, rude.

[upper flicker]

I wouldnt advise you use that for anything linux-y, onedrive doesnt support any real filesystems. It shims you into windows style

[golden gust]

But, really, "please mention me" type requests can sod off, if you can't be assed to stick around for a response, don't ask

[waxen panther]

lmfao

challenge the admin

[meager tusk]

[mossy vessel]

🗡️

[vernal moth]

dont ping

[upper flicker]

it'll work, it'll just only work within the limitations of windows semantics

[vernal moth]

pings

[untold copper]

...

[golden gust]

?ban @real comet Well, you can take your attitude and fuck right off

[leaden oxide]

Mustafa K. | Uniquiex#5911 was banned | Well, you can take your attitude and fuck right off

[meager tusk]

[upper flicker]

didnt see that one coming, said no one

[spiral robin]

[meager tusk]

Aber !

[spiral robin]

hai

[quasi valley]

"aber" meaning "but" in german makes this way too confusing

randomly seeing people scream
But !

no cat, not butt

[golden gust]

would it be wrong to set the new standard that we just boot anybody who oes the whole "please ping me coz I can't be fucked waiting for a response" type people

[mossy vessel]

Nah

[wide chasm]

Ehh, it can take multiple hours to get a response in some cases (and some guilds), I can understand people don't want to be staring at a channel for hours.

[visual egret]

i think the only applicable ping would be to accidentally ping you in a discord reply

[cosmic raft]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/ls6ztm/found_an_entire_mineshaft_suspended_in_a_cave/

that's some neat generation

[golden gust]

They're asking in an active channel

and very often flood the question around 20 other discords

[spiral robin]

youre a neat generation 🥺

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/golden-girls-shrug-shoulders-coffee-you-cant-change-it-it-is-what-it-is-gif-15198912

[wide chasm]

Doesn't necessarily mean they'll get a quick answer; I've had cases where I asked questions in active places and it took multiple hours for me to get a response.

[golden gust]

it's annoying af when people do it and we're sitting there answering the question tryna fight against moronic advice from elsewhere

it's been far too much of a consistent problem where people shotgun questions around and then magically expect people to care to dedicate time to them

[vestal jasper]

It's weird to think there are people buying mc just now

This dumb game has taken up half my life at this point

Not literally but it's been a long ass time

[untold copper]

did you sit on the toilet for too long josh

[wide chasm]

I personally don't see how that is specifically an issue with people who ask to be pinged when you answer them? At best you get rid of people that ask their questions in dozens of places.

[golden gust]

because it falls into the general trope of people we have issues with in these support discords

[wide chasm]

Ehh, I generally am more a fan of getting rid of people if they actually are being dicks, not just banning people because they belong to a group which are mostly dicks

[cedar spade]

but !

[mossy vessel]

but(t)deener

[vestal jasper]

I'm sitting in the fuel station kiosk waiting for customers. It's boring and lots of downtime.

[untold copper]

lol that explains the deep thoughts

[golden gust]

@tranquil bone radic responded and basically would like mtr reports in both directions, https://support.reliablesite.net/kb/a192/troubleshooting-reporting-network-and-packet-loss-issues.aspx

if people who've had issues in the past can comment on admincraft, would be nice

[olive garden]

Yes, that would be wrong. Channels are often flooded with low-quality questions or large discussions about other topics. One shouldn't be required to read all of that for hours. A more complex issue might only be answered hours after it has been raised by some maniac reading back IRC logs. Has happened before.

I personally like to help out when I'm free and feeling lazy, but I would rather not read discussions when I want to be productive. But I might still have questions which I want to get answered. In that situations I would probably not notice an answer if it doesn't arrive within minutes, eg. because I open some other tab on my secondary monitor instead of keeping Discord open. And I don't have it constantly open it's often hard to keep up with the amount of messages being sent.

[upper flicker]

if people want to be pinged on a response I dont see an issue

especially on discord where that's the default they push on everything

but if you wanna be a dick and ping the whole guild or the whole staff team, or random users who explicitly mark not to, kinda on them when they get bonk'd

[cunning raft]

@upper flicker need help with screen 2

[golden gust]

I mean, you get cases where they literally don't even care to check

[upper flicker]

I dont mind them

[upper flicker]

stop using screen, use tmux

fixed

[cunning raft]

but centos 3 no support tux

[upper flicker]

oh well

[golden gust]

they ask a question, somebody reponds within like 10 seconds and they never see the answer coz they can't be fucked, and then ask it like 20 minutes later or whatever

[olive garden]

tell them to go fuck themselves

[upper flicker]

its a support guild, theres always going to be some of that

[golden gust]

I mean, personally, if I wasn't so dead half the time, I'd feel pretty inclined to start being more booty in some of the channels as there is like a small circle of people who are constantly like that and it's kinda tiring

[waxen schooner]

https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

who tf uses CentOS 3? lol

[upper flicker]

even current versions use really old packages

[waxen schooner]

that hasn't had a full update since 20/07/2006

[upper flicker]

he's shitposting about an even older one

[cunning raft]

z570 tell me use cent 3

he say it best version

[upper flicker]

it is best version

[waxen schooner]

https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

[golden gust]

CentOS 3 is centOS

We do not recommend CentOS

Fuck RHEL

[waxen schooner]

CentOS Linux is amazing

CentOS Stream is shit

fuck IBM

they fucking killed CentOS

[upper flicker]

something to replace it will rise from the grave

it'll be fine

[spiral robin]

[waxen schooner]

stfu

yeah hopefully something will replace CentOS

[ashen cliff]

Not using Debian.

[waxen schooner]

I use Ubuntu now CentOS dead

[golden gust]

I mean, cent is basically RHELs testing ground

[waxen schooner]

it is now

[golden gust]

you are nothing more than beta testing centOS for their paid customers

[limber knot]

Meanwhile I'm using Fedora as my main OS

[waxen schooner]

it wasn't before

[golden gust]

It's been a beta testing ground for literally years

[limber knot]

well, it kindof was

[waxen schooner]

how?

CentOS Linux tracks behind RHEL

[ashen cliff]

Beta, but like old old old beta.

[golden gust]

Cent has always had the features before RHEL in a not so stable metric

[waxen schooner]

the reason why people liked CentOS is because it used to track behind RHEL

[cosmic raft]

CentOS is dead anyways

[golden gust]

Yea, in some respects it did

coz they literally gave 2 shits about it outside of it being a testing ground

[cosmic raft]

not sad to see centos go :p

[vernal bone]

What about FreeBSD? 🤔

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/iMoAXZoQs18

[upper flicker]

just disable timings if you use freebsd

[golden gust]

I mean, if you wanna build a router or some embedded/device you don't touch somewhere

[cosmic raft]

Netflix delivery runs on freebsd

[upper flicker]

theyve got some weird timer fuckery in there

[golden gust]

but, for hosting paper on, avoid freebsd like a plague

[upper flicker]

and switch it to UTF-8

because it comes in like ansi by default

and thats awful

[golden gust]

they don't optimise nanotime calls, iirc, where other OSes like linux do coz asking the hardware clock is slow as balls

[waxen schooner]

😠

[golden gust]

I think that they had some experimental patches somewhere to optimize that, but 🤷‍♂️

[sacred depot]

Debian is the way of life now.

[waxen panther]

centos is terrible

why r u angry

[waxen schooner]

CentOS is terrible now

it wasn't

[golden gust]

The only reason people used cent was because RHEL and and "it's the default"

beyond that, there is literally 0 reason to use CentOS over literally any other distro

[tranquil bone]

Thank you for that message, chief. I will send him those MTR reports via a ticket. You mentioned that you didn't have access to a RS server fora while.

If you'd like, for the benefit of the community to get Radic more information, could give you access to it to play around with.

[waxen schooner]

I just like the way it works

more used to it

[waxen panther]

your opinion is WRONG.

[waxen schooner]

I mean, it's not that different from other distros, but I like it

[waxen panther]

ok

[golden gust]

My brains killing me and I basically got 0 interest to try to diagnose an issue for others

without help

literally had help

mfw

[waxen schooner]

lol

[cosmic raft]

congratulations on running unsupported outdated software that everyone wishes would just go away forever

💃

[sacred depot]

🤣

[waxen schooner]

what

[golden gust]

centos is LITERALLY the number one distro for bundling outdated shit

[waxen schooner]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[golden gust]

their kernel on their supported version last I saw was literally years old

[tranquil bone]

Understandable, cat. Thank you for your help so far

[golden gust]

Please actually do some form of research and learn before spouting shit

[waxen schooner]

it's a bit like vim for me, I was taught how to use it from the beginning and I've stuck with it

[golden gust]

you're welcome to have an opinion that you like centOS, but it's pretty well established that centos for years has been an outdated trailing behind POS outside of the rando crap rhel throws into it for testing

[waxen schooner]

fair

[sacred depot]

Cat, which Distro do you worship?

[golden gust]

none, they're all shit

[waxen schooner]

[golden gust]

I generally just use ubuntu server for servers

[sacred depot]

Windows it is!

[golden gust]

and, well, I use arch (on VMs)

[ashen cliff]

So Debian.

[waxen schooner]

in terms of servers, I would say Ubuntu or Debian

[waxen schooner]

okay I will start a crusade with pitch forks in hand for anyone who thinks Windows Server is even remotely good

[cosmic raft]

one of my servers runs ubuntu, one runs archlinux

[golden gust]

debian/ubuntu are the more supported/maintained options for canonical are sorta like, the samsung of distros

[cosmic raft]

Windows Server is good

It has it's uses

[waxen schooner]

I wouldn't say Arch is good for servers

[golden gust]

no shit

[waxen schooner]

it's not the most stable

[golden gust]

I mean

If you know what you're doing and are wanting to be on the bleeding edge, arch is fine

[olive garden]

servers are bad, go serverless!

[cosmic raft]

for critical applications that must never go down? obviously not

[waxen schooner]

Arch is basically the Linux playground lol

[cosmic raft]

for general purpose use, totally fine

[golden gust]

you don't have the whole "this package has been tested for 2000 hours before it was rolled out to the world", but, i mean, you get fixes earlier and generally it's stable af

[waxen schooner]

indeed, but like 99% of things aren't in that list

[golden gust]

if you need the guarantee that it's stable, you'd be a moron for using arch

[cosmic raft]

It's just such a fucking pain to go "i want to install x" on ubuntu

[golden gust]

but, practically, it's fine

[cosmic raft]

then needing to find the PPA

[waxen schooner]

Active Directory is about all it's uses

[cosmic raft]

only to find out that PPA is broken and the trying to remove it

[golden gust]

fragmentation is the biggest issue with the linux community

[ashen cliff]

And due to broken versioning, you are now permanently stuck on those PPA packages, despite new versions being available.

[golden gust]

and am glad that one of the biggest causes of that has fucked off

[worn ember]

i made minecraft alone, with no help

[golden gust]

but, it's still a massive ass pain in the community

[waxen schooner]

wdym fragmentation?

[worn ember]

"ass pain in the community"

[cosmic raft]

google "define fragmentation"

[waxen schooner]

you talking about everything being scattered everywhere?

[worn ember]

ddg define friends

[golden gust]

version fragmentation, feature fragmentation, etc, etc, etc

[quasi valley]

"what's fragmentation"
"fragmentation of things"

[golden gust]

you have distro's which bundle moronically old versions of software

[quasi valley]

thanks cat

[vernal moth]

somebody should write a defragmenter, smh

[golden gust]

you have distro's which implictly ship non-standard utils

[quasi valley]

just apply windows defragmenter to all linux distros

[waxen schooner]

can relate

cough Certbot Cloudflare DNS cough

[golden gust]

it all ends in this massive ass clusterfuck where writing some simple script to perform a few trivial tasks turns into a 100 line shell script cos you gotta add stupid things like workaround for missing features from utils which have been around for literally years

[waxen schooner]

cough Python Cloudflare DNS cough

[waxen schooner]

that's linux for ya lol

ngl, kinda sounds like NPM

[golden gust]

I mean, it doesn't even need to be an issue

[ashen cliff]

Just go deal with some old hardware on Linux. Have fun with the drivers.

[golden gust]

but people support those backwards ass distro's like centos like a religion and expect others to write scripts to factor out their moronity, etc

[modest path]

General survey: How do you determine your own code quality?

[golden gust]

show it to kash

if all he complains about is whitespace, you're probably k

[waxen schooner]

if it's not readable, throw it in the bin

[modest path]

Hmm, lemme rewrite that: How do you consider your own code quality?

[waxen schooner]

isn't he one of those who uses a 2 indent instead of 4 like normal people? xD

[modest path]

Also good tip will go message him

[visual egret]

Is it possible to compile paper in a way that it doesent have to download minecraft at first launch like BuildTools?

[golden gust]

I mean, yea

just grab the jar from the -Server module instead of the paperclip jar

[tranquil bone]

Who is Radic anyway, is he the owner of RS?

[golden gust]

support staff afaik

think he was pretty high up in the support chain though, I forget

[twin lagoon]

support / sales?

he's the one on spigotmc iirc

i've always known him as the spigot guy giving coupons so

[golden gust]

I find it hard to believe that he's not heard of the constant peering issues people seem to report from there

[twin lagoon]

tbh them being on spigotmc was a golden move at the time

that definitely made them popular

[golden gust]

I mean, they're a top shit company

Like, I used to recommend them to shit all the time

[twin lagoon]

oh same

[tranquil bone]

I hope it will get fixed when i send those mtr reports

[golden gust]

but, their peering went from a once a week issue to almost constant

there's dozens of reports on the internet about their peer being ass that I've seen over the years

and, it's like, tf haven't they done anything about it, because it's not a one off case at this point, it's a constant known issue with their service in this community

[visual egret]

ok so a friend recently got into programming and is writing some plugins for my server and the comments-

[untold copper]

oskar dum

:P

[waxen panther]

thats something coming snoopa

smiling emoji

[quasi valley]

[untold copper]

HAI BROCC

hru today :D

[waxen panther]

hello !

[next frost]

"a friend" yeah sure

[waxen panther]

ouch

[spiral robin]

[waxen panther]

.

[spiral robin]

.

[left swift]

,

[meager tusk]

Hi

[magic cape]

Just want to say a big thank you to the devs for fixing Hexadecimal colors in the console ❤️

[upper flicker]

@cunning raft people love you

[vernal bone]

Hello

[minor badge]

i merged it therefore i get all credit

[ashen cliff]

Speaking of HEX: https://posili.me/i/2021-02-25_20-58-18.png?DiscordPls

I still want to die.

[vernal bone]

What are you doing again krusic?

[meager tusk]

Balkan engineering.

[olive marlin]

He's making himself want to die.

[ashen cliff]

I'm doing this: https://posili.me/i/2021-02-25_21-01-31.png

Since I still didn't get a manual for that switch.

[twin lagoon]

balkan switch

[ashen cliff]

No.

🇬🇧 switch.

So 🗑️.

[olive marlin]

Blame Cat.

[waxen panther]

[meager tusk]

Ew.

[ashen cliff]

Yeah.

[quasi valley]

brits

[golden gust]

fucking butty it

https://www.theversed.com/93644/proof-british-people-will-put-literally-anything-sandwich/#.J8BbxZao02

[visual egret]

ok ive reset this, epic

fresh os

[upper flicker]

Im a bit ashamed to say a few of those look good cat

[ashen cliff]

If you make a sandwich and you cut it in half, do you have two sandwiches or two half's of a sandwich?

[golden gust]

I mean, we'll try to sandwich practically anything

[upper flicker]

👀

[golden gust]

Hey, you don't know until you've tried!

[ashen cliff]

I made a mayonnaise pancake if that counts.

[upper flicker]

mods

[golden gust]

Like, i don't know how many brits will attest to this, but, coming from a council estate, some form of potato and a slice of bread or two was basically the staple for any meal

[cosmic raft]

now we need to break it again

[upper flicker]

lol

[left swift]

Potato chip sandwich

Potato chips cheese bread yum

[golden gust]

a classic

I mean, am not too fond of cheese sandwiches because like, I used to have them allllll the time as a child, but, like, ham sandwich, a few slices of cucumber and a bit of lettuce

[cunning raft]

kash i stg

[golden gust]

that was basically my standard lunch with a packet of potato chips and a chocolate biscuit

sometimes, you just gotta take out a few chips and crush them in the sandwich

[limber knot]

Does anyone know how to apply Tiny (v1 or v2), SRG or Enigma mappings onto a jar without altering synthetic methods too much?

[left swift]

Hi

[visual egret]

where is systemctl stored? /bin/systemctl? on ubuntu latest LTS

[upper flicker]

the actual binary executable?

[visual egret]

id assume thats what im looking for

[upper flicker]

uh

/usr/bin/systemctl

$ which systemctl can tell you too

[golden gust]

util stuff generally goes in /usr/bin

[visual egret]

ah thanks

[upper flicker]

usually when youre wanting to mess with systemctl, its to add or remove service files though

not play with the executable

[visual egret]

i needed to change something in visudo

[twin lagoon]

no what you need to do is systemd user services

[left swift]

I'm 6-6 in esea open now AMA

[visual egret]

wtf cloudflare

[worn ember]

ur a wizard robot harry oskar

[visual egret]

should i firewall my origin server to just allow cloudflare ip's?

[twin lagoon]

obviously

[visual egret]

https://github.com/Paul-Reed/cloudflare-ufw crotab hourly?

[wraith trail]

cloudflare ips do not change very often

[visual egret]

so weekly, as suggested in readme of the project?

[spiral robin]

tryitandsee

[visual egret]

i can try it but i wont really see the results aber

[wraith trail]

the last change to their page was just over 2 years ago

for v4, didn't check v6

[visual egret]

ah

[wraith trail]

ah nevermind, it literally says on their page for both

last change was in early 2017

[visual egret]

okay, so no need to do it stupidly often

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-02-25_22-12-05.png

🤔

[golden gust]

I mean, that's what the UK is iirc

Just, their wording of it... is... er... yea...

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, they should split it.

[upper flicker]

more like United Kingdom of Bad Sandwiches

[visual egret]

ok time to have "fun" installing pterodactyl

[wild escarp]

🤮

[wraith trail]

their docs are pretty clear

[spiral robin]

god bless dane

[wraith trail]

or at least elaborate on it decently

so it's not too easy to mess up

[visual egret]

last time that was said i was installing GRUB

[golden gust]

grub installs with like a handful of commands unless you're using some mangled setup

[cosmic raft]

@mossy vessel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8mBplMtwJ8

[magic river]

https://blog.earthly.dev/intercal-yaml-and-other-horrible-programming-languages/

[visual egret]

how is yaml a programming language

[limber knot]

it's not, but yamlcode is

runs

[ashen cliff]

Even Microsoft PowerPoint is a programming language.

[magic river]

VARIABLES MAY NOT BE STORED IN WEST HYPERSPACE

[worn ember]

westist

[magic river]

The point of the article is that YAML is often used in a way that blurs the line between config and program and does a crap job of it

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-02-25_22-30-43.png

[worn ember]

just hardcode the values

[limber knot]

just use HOCON

[worn ember]

honk honk

[magic river]

      if: type = push
      script:
        - source ./.multi_arch_docker
        - set -ex; multi_arch_docker::main; set +x

(that's from a TravisCI config)

[unkempt drift]

where is that from... and can I comment on it 🙂

[magic river]

People keep inventing programming languages inside YAML, JSON, and XML because they're afraid of just giving you JS or Lua and don't know how to write a DSL or think a DSL would scare people off

[mossy vessel]

How can I delete someone else's fork of my repository?

[twin lagoon]

@mossy vessel

[upper flicker]

you have to delete them

[mossy vessel]

[limber knot]

NMF: delete your repo and recreate it, that will unlink the fork ;D

or well, technically it might cause the fork to link to some other random fork if it exists. dunno what the logic is there

[worn ember]

assuming there is logic

[limber knot]

why would one delete a fork?

[worn ember]

https://imgur.com/9nohQh4

[limber knot]

interesting

[crystal compass]

plugins\CMI8.8.1.0.jar MIGHT be infected with Spigot.MALWARE.ForceOP.A Class path: com/Zrips/CMI/NBT/v1_10_R1 ; Line/SourceFile 151/v1_10_R1.java
``` nice

[limber knot]

Pirated plugins or stupid devs?

[ashen cliff]

https://github.com/TomWildenhain/pptcc/issues/4

[crystal compass]

well this thing is also detecting every single plugin that uses metrics so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limber knot]

I mean that check is probably just searching for the setOp method xD

Ah, then it probably also would flag my plugin that runs arbitary system commands as malware too

Otherwise this would a not very good anti-malware tool

[crystal compass]

DailyBonus-3.3.2.jar MIGHT be infected with Spigot.MALWARE.ForceOP.A Class path: com/culleystudios/spigot/lib/action/tasks/OPCommandTask ; Line/SourceFile 31/OPCommandTask.java

lol

dude

this plugin ops the player for a sec

then deops them

wtf

[limber knot]

that's a commonly used way to execute commands for a player with all possible permissions lol

[unkempt drift]

is that exploitable if it all happens in the same tick?

[vernal bone]

Sounds like a very bad practise

[golden gust]

op
run
deop

if they do it like that, no, if they wait, yes

[limber knot]

yeah

wrap it in a try and do the deop in the finally and you are pretty safe

[visual egret]

bruh

pterodactyl isnt letting me save recatchpa keys reeee

there isnt like a save button

[twin lagoon]

they're optional

[visual egret]

yeah i know but it wont let me save them

[golden gust]

ask them

[left swift]

Cat always say ask them but never say how them 😔

[visual egret]

deep

[crystal compass]

oi, did they make a CMI to essentialsX converter yet

[cunning raft]

yeah

https://github.com/EssentialsX/CMI-Importer

have fun

[crystal compass]

aye thanks

[limber moth]

This is a weird question but can PaperMC Run on an Raspberry Pi 4b (4gb Ram) Board PC?

[upper flicker]

yes

[brave radish]

technically yes, just not very well

[upper flicker]

it wont run super fast or anything

but it will run

1-3 people, maybe 5 if you optimize the configs so much it sucks to play on

[limber moth]

Ok thx

Any Other Cheaper ALternative

[brave radish]

the 8 gig might be a little better but the processor in the pi still isn't that great

[wraith trail]

you'll never be able to use that much

[olive marlin]

A few people here did run successfully on Pi.

[upper flicker]

my bottlenecks were always cpu, not memory

[wraith trail]

depending on your location, you can get old optiplexes and the like very cheap

[upper flicker]

64bit os and not running off the sdcard help

[limber moth]

i want smthing kinda small

[brave radish]

You could try a hosting platform or buy a used laptop like sulu kinda said

[olive marlin]

Get old used pcs or laptops with broken screens/keyboards etc.

[limber moth]

Will a Celeron be good enough

From like 2014

[brave radish]

I have no idea, but what is this server for? just you and two friends or what?

[limber moth]

Yh

i am running GeyserMC and Floodgate

Plugins

[true canyon]

I understand the first rule of tech support is users lie, but why do they lie about things that don't even matter. Like, user broke their config with an edited line. The fix is to update that line. They are denying editing that line. Who cares that you messed up, dude? I don't know you, you don't know me, there's no pride to worry about here.

[olive garden]

your plugin edited that config line

fix your plugin

[brave radish]

🤣

oops

that wasn't supposed to be in a reply

[olive garden]

I don't care if your plugin never saves the config file, you are the culprit

[brave radish]

I don't know and a lot more factors other then player count apply, but I would just either find the best thing you can for the money or find a hosting provider

[potent fossil]

I'm sending you the power of extreme indifference so that you can quash the stupidity

Lov u bai

[true canyon]

❤️

[limber moth]

Ok thx!

[brave radish]

"Hi, I'm billy and I have x problem"
"Post logs"
*posts 3 lines*
"Post the entire logs"
"BUT THEN YOU'LL KNOW MY IP ADDRESS"
"No one cares it doesn't matter"
*posts logs*
"Did you do y that would cause this?"
"No, and the problem just fixed itself"

[visual egret]

hah

[wraith trail]

see the person in #paper-help right now

[brave radish]

"latest paper"
"what number?"
"latest"
"latest is <insert latest number here>"
"oh it's working now"

yes sulu I did lol

and @ sulu they're probably DM'ing @ rhodeoMan

[wraith trail]

doubt it, they haven't been added yet

or they are getting nowhere

[topaz mortar]

Sounds like a good reason to create a paper-suport-memes channel or twitter account. 😄

[brave radish]

reddit.com/r/papermc should be a thing

[potent fossil]

no

[brave radish]

why no?

[potent fossil]

because there is a discord, irc, and website already we dont need the absolute brainless inanity of reddit adding to the absolute brainless inanity that already exists here

[olive garden]

This is targeted harassment at me

[potent fossil]

never

💋

[brave radish]

and actually I forgot there's already an @ PaperPowered on twitter for that

forget that, just need a mojang.com/blog/why-paper-is-better

[potent fossil]

[limpid comet]

hi

[potent fossil]

bweuey! 🥺

[limpid comet]

hi simple! (he/him)

[potent fossil]

where is my love

[limpid comet]

<- right here

[potent fossil]

ok ty

[spiral robin]

@potent fossil @limpid comet

[limpid comet]

@spiral robin h cuteo

[spiral robin]

Missed u

[olive marlin]

I haven't seen bluely here in a while.

[limpid comet]

i went into my cryo chamber

[olive marlin]

Had a good cryosleep?

[limpid comet]

yes very nice

[potent fossil]

i missed bluely

[left swift]

Where is redly

I miss sinple

[potent fossil]

sinple is dead

i killed him

[zealous wedge]

aaa hi @limpid comet !

[limpid comet]

hi zml

[potent fossil]

blue why do you hate me

[limpid comet]

i dont

i love u

cutie

[potent fossil]

ok ty for reassuring

<3

[spiral robin]

@potent fossil @potent fossil @potent fossil @potent fossil @potent fossil @zealous wedge @zealous wedge @zealous wedge @zealous wedge @zealous wedge @limpid comet @limpid comet @olive marlin @olive marlin @olive marlin @olive marlin

[potent fossil]

wow!

[spiral robin]

Ocelot

[coarse lily]

Thought I was in a different Discord for a second there.

HI aber

[unkempt drift]

Should have a dyno autoban for spam mentions 🙂

[potent fossil]

no

this was welcomed

[coarse lily]

Hi z and blue and simple

[potent fossil]

ocelot

[spiral robin]

They're all consenting to it machine 😔

Different if I went @zzz @zzz @zzz

[limpid comet]

do it no balls

[zealous wedge]

@spiral robin

[unkempt drift]

Do it. U wont

[spiral robin]

Ur right

I won't

[unkempt drift]

Cat’s asleep, won’t know.

[spiral robin]

You first

[unkempt drift]

<@&289617900971753472>

🙂

[spiral robin]

[unkempt drift]

Totally pinged him. Now u

[zealous wedge]

lol

[limpid comet]

[unkempt drift]

@carmine cedar

stealth ping of... well, someone but you don’t know who

[mighty storm]

anyone got a crash report on paper, just anything

[spiral robin]

Skript caused an exception

[mighty storm]

literally anything this is crucial for the triage team

[coarse lily]

This was in #paper-help yesterday

https://paste.gg/p/Walrus2020/7c09065d39954e939467a4c5f0e27333

Not sure how useful.

[mighty storm]

hehe

[coarse lily]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/7bb94821fc5547cf906193299fb7f685

That too.

[left swift]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/ed8389f2809a47f4b85e3773e970e5f8

[upper flicker]

[mighty storm]

you will see

[upper flicker]

hi aber

[potent fossil]

i accidentally bought unscented soap

hmm