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olive garden
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fuck, I failed at getting back to work

limber knotBOT
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😅

dim shadow
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no but seriously y not? essx handles so much shit for u

limber knotBOT
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yeah I need to get out of here too, lmao

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it does everything, barily

dim shadow
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no dont go back to ur bot charging station ;-;

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i thought it did everything... then they added tpr

limber knotBOT
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it does everything but nothing really good

worn ember
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rtp gang

limber knotBOT
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it's meant for people that just want all the basic features one could need without too much setup etc

dim shadow
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i mean yea theres been tech advancements that it doesnt fuck wit yet :I

limber knotBOT
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I'm almost done extracting it from my server xD

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only took almost 10 years

dim shadow
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do u use essx or another one?

limber knotBOT
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there is no other one

dim shadow
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waht about cmi

worn ember
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welllll

limber knotBOT
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shit doesn't count

dim shadow
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and the uhh skript port of essx LOL

cunning raft
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Don't use CMI

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For the love of god

dim shadow
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y no cmi? i was impressed with the features 😮

limber knotBOT
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lol

dim shadow
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i just didnt use it cuz all my shit runs on top of essx already lol

cunning raft
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It's a horrible fucking plug-in

dim shadow
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well dam son

limber knotBOT
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you will be more impressed by the shitty code, amount of bugs and lack of api

worn ember
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not as horrible as someone calling it a "plug-in"

cunning raft
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Does everything horribly and lags your entire server

dim shadow
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plugins that can hotswap ur motd:
[ ] essx
[x] cmi

limber knotBOT
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wat?

cunning raft
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Use EssX and get separate plugins for other stuff

cunning raft
limber knotBOT
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do you know /ess reload exists? lmao

dim shadow
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no i mean the uhh server message that appears in server select screen

worn ember
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use essentials and override 90% of the commands with other plugins

dim shadow
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motd= in server.propertys

dim shadow
limber knotBOT
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use ServerListPlus

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lol

dim shadow
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then again i been using ess since 2011 so for me its just synonymous wit servers

limber knotBOT
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no other plugin does it as well as SLP

cunning raft
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1 plugin that does everything doesn't mean it's better and less laggy

dim shadow
cunning raft
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You can have hundreds of good plugins that preform better than CMI

worn ember
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unless its made by oskar

left swift
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Unless it's made by ded

twin lagoon
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use minimotd

left swift
twin lagoon
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used to love SLP but it's no longer being maintained so meh

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best to use something new like minimotd which allows you to use 1.16 colours

worn ember
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maintain it michelle

dim shadow
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lol i keep forgetting the new colors exist >.<

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im still runnin vga palette mode

worn ember
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lmao

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even vga has more colors

dim shadow
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tru LOL

fallen oracle
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There are forks which support Minimessage

dim shadow
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whats the one wit 16 colors i forget cga?

worn ember
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i mean

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paper supports adventure

twin lagoon
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yeah but you might aswell just use minimotd or pistonmotd when starting from scratch

fallen oracle
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Ahh yeah

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Morning everyone

dim shadow
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bongiorno 🥳

worn ember
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well i gotta still include it for the spigot plebs anyway

dim shadow
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would anyone like a glass of water

worn ember
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no

dim shadow
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#rjktd

twin lagoon
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@mossy vessel meowhuggies

left swift
dim shadow
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goodbye restarting the server to fix a typo 🥳 🥳 🥳 🥳 🥳

limber knotBOT
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Michael: SLP is still maintained wat

olive marlin
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Michale pepeclap

limber knotBOT
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(and my fork supports MineDown, another one MiniMessage. They just haven't decided what one to use yet)

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*"which one" I guess lol

twin lagoon
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with 4.0 being last touched in 2018

dim shadow
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probs dev builds lol

limber knotBOT
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4.0 is absolutely dead lol

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yes, it's a mature project

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it doesn't need updates if nothing is broken

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+1

twin lagoon
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it's not broken no

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RGB support would be quite nice though

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until then i'd rather use minimotd or pistonmotd

limber knotBOT
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sure, rather use a plugin that doesn't have tons of features than testing a fork adding a small feature

dim shadow
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does spigot come with a builtin way to do color gradients or nah?

limber knotBOT
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no

cunning raft
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N OMEGALUL

dim shadow
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rip

twin lagoon
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minimotd is perfect for me, i don't need 30 features in a motd plugin

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just give me a multi-line motd with minimessage support

worn ember
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inb4 md snatches adventure and adds it too

limber knotBOT
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then why even use SLP in the first place?

twin lagoon
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because it's the most used from what i've seen and it's nice

limber knotBOT
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phoenix616: the RGB stuff seems horribly inconsistent everywhere

twin lagoon
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i don't go for it anymore because of RGB

limber knotBOT
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you weren't using the nice parts though? :P

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yeah :S

dim shadow
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imagine region locking ur motd to make everyone think ur server is in their language lol

limber knotBOT
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why "think"? multi-langauge servers do that lol

worn ember
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yeah gl translating everything

limber knotBOT
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why would that be an issue? lol

dim shadow
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cuz im a single language server LOL

limber knotBOT
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most bigger plugins come with default translations in many languages already

worn ember
dim shadow
limber knotBOT
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you don't need players with different languages to interact ever

dim shadow
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i used to get a buncha foreigners back in the day lol every1 seemed to play nice

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mostly danes idk y

limber knotBOT
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let them play in the minigames together but don't let them chat in their language-dependent lobbies lol

worn ember
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sounds more trouble than its worth

dim shadow
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y not doe xD

worn ember
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just speak english or stfu

limber knotBOT
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I have worked with servers that did exactly that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

worn ember
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yeah and everytime you add something you gotta translate it in 50 langs

limber knotBOT
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I mean, I didn't say that they should support 50 languages lol

dim shadow
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no just use 1 plugin to translate all text back & forth to the player xD

limber knotBOT
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most tend to only support English and Spanish, maybe French and Russian

wide chasm
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Most of these servers have the funds to hire translators full time or just freelancers

dim shadow
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like at the packet level or somethin

worn ember
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but if you support more than one, why not all, why would you discriminate? /s

limber knotBOT
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because they don't pay :P

worn ember
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poor countries dont get translations zoop

limber knotBOT
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no reason to translate into Latin if no-one in the Vatican is playing Minecraft anyways thinksmart

dim shadow
wide chasm
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Well, there probably are some people there playing Minecraft, but they probably aren't on your server.

limber knotBOT
dim shadow
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i dont blame em lol ping would suck

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imagine playing mc wit the pope doe

visual egret
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imagine using wifi, cool kids use ethenet 😎

dim shadow
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yes i see that ;-;

cunning raft
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would be surprised if its still up

dim shadow
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god dam i missed my chance to play w/ the pope

cunning raft
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people fucking trashed it

dim shadow
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reasons left to live: 0

dim shadow
cunning raft
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idk i didn't join ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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not really something that interests me

worn ember
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is that the one with all the books?

twin lagoon
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no that's a different project

olive marlin
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Now I know why Viper made the Bible plugin.

left swift
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To fulfill a boy scout badge

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Ducks cant type

void void
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Hey, how to teleport a player in async thread ?
I know it's impossible when seeing the forums but I really need to teleport a player in a task that I created with a thread (I don't use the Bukkit Scheduler in order to be independent from Bukkit)

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I use also PaperLib but there is an error.

worn ember
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paper has Player#teleportAsync

void void
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I will try

sullen socket
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Does anyone know a Good 1.16.5 Compatible Shop Plugin and a good economy Plugin that works with it?

waxen panther
void void
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So I can't use player.teleportAsync() in a async thread ?

golden gust
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No

void void
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😭

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I am creating a party API and I need to create a thread for each part

waxen panther
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You can use bukkits scheduler to run a task on the main thread

slim nymph
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I kinda regret naming methods async now

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teleportWithoutLag

golden gust
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You can't modify entity state off the main thread

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It would take a laaaarge rewrite of the server to even come close to allowing that

void void
slim nymph
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so don't do that 😉

sullen socket
waxen panther
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while true monkas

void void
waxen panther
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there are absolutely better ways to do that

golden gust
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The server works how the server works

waxen panther
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inspirational words as always cat

golden gust
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You can waste time flustering about how it doesn't work for the way you'd hope or move on and refactor catering towards how the game works

slim nymph
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a task that is repeated every tick that cancels itself once the condition is true

worn ember
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sounds like something brocc would do

waxen panther
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??

warm anchor
waxen panther
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ded bullys me so much Sadge

worn ember
sullen socket
golden gust
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Any plugin with its salt uses vault

warm anchor
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"read the resource page"

visual egret
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reading is a valuable skill you know

woven otter
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no stop reading

golden gust
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Also, don't spam, no need to repeat it

woven otter
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reading is bad

void void
sullen socket
warm anchor
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wow @worn ember stop bullying brocco koriStab

woven otter
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reading will lead you to solutions

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solutions are bad

sullen socket
warm anchor
woven otter
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wtf no

sullen socket
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Oh yeah there is a page about this i found it

golden gust
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We've discussed eco plugins 200 times on this discord, there's also literally google

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eco plugins are not something which generally need to be updated

worn ember
golden gust
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only horror is how trash they all generally are, but, good luck

woven otter
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cat biased? suggesting only google 😱

worn ember
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please say search engine or triggered

golden gust
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I'm just saying that the questions which have been asked so far have already been answered 200 times in this discord alone as well as google

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having the same convo every handful of days because people are incapable of googling and then they wonder why people don't bother to run around to answer those questions like we did 200 times ago 🤷‍♂️

woven otter
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Might as well add a FAQ channel

visual egret
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the best eco plugin is || one that fits your needs, if that requires a custom plugin, make one or hire someone || end of story

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ez

worn ember
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FAQ you

left swift
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How dare u suggest I read something while asking for support

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The nerve

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/s

woven otter
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the best eco plugin is || We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I... ||

left swift
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Gotta make sure duck knows its sarcasm cuz duck has problems detecting it

worn ember
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it do be snowing these days

left swift
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In winter?

worn ember
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in cold

left swift
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Weird

worn ember
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not really

visual egret
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why screen go shaky when i react to nomana post ||sarcasm lol||

left swift
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thonk must be a discord bug

visual egret
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agreed

worn ember
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why arent you on irc oskar wtf

visual egret
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sending to issue tracker right now

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ee

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halp discord says not bug but bug

woven otter
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brocc you need to be bullied more tho

worn ember
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hes a weeb, its totally deserved

visual egret
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ill go back to irc later

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probably not this week

vernal moth
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I just watched 35 minutes of an english speaking dude playing geoguesser in germany, and pronouncing german street names

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What am I doing with my life?

golden gust
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seems about on-par for you

visual egret
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geoguesser but you have to drive to the location

golden gust
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wanna watch some tig anime bitties instead?

vernal moth
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Geoguesser in germany is cool cause you handy capped

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Half the streets are dead ends and the pictures are 12 years old 😂

worn ember
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wow thats older than half the mc community

left swift
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Better get updating mini

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The geoguesser community needs you

vernal moth
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Uuhm

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Geoguesser uses google street view

left swift
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Google needs you mini

visual egret
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fax google the pictures then

left swift
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German street expert

vernal moth
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Google doesn't want to deal with street view in germany anymore 😂 😂

golden gust
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translated: that ain't ever getting updated

vernal moth
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We annoyed them enough no never bother again

golden gust
vernal moth
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Now they just use aerial images

vernal moth
golden gust
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I will shit on your rug

worn ember
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catttt have you done your 2 pr's today already

vernal moth
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assuming i have a rug

left swift
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Become a politician and make a german law requiring residents to submit pictures of their homes for google streetview

golden gust
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||what, you shave?||

vernal moth
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Best I can offer is a door mat

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Hey I actually did shave

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Two friends were over and forced me

golden gust
left swift
vernal moth
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They even cut my hair

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I look like a human again now

left swift
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Must be nice having caring friends that cut ur hair for u

vernal moth
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I mean

fallen oracle
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You went from dude down the street to Amish, just need the hat.

vernal moth
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One of them didn't stop laughing, she almost died when she tried to have a sip of beer 😂

worn ember
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cant blame her

vernal moth
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I just didn't shave and didn't cut my hair for almost 3 months, so I had to do smth, I was looking like an neanderthalian

left swift
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Wait wouldn't the longer beard one be amish

worn ember
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i had to get up at 7am but it was worth it lmao

vernal moth
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I literally don't care

left swift
vernal moth
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I don't see ppl anyways other than my fam and 3 friends

left swift
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Bad phrasing

worn ember
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thats 3 more than me

vernal moth
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Plus some idiots at grocery store, and then I got mask and headphones so you don't really see anything of my face anyways

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I really really want them to open bars again, I need ma cocktails and shit

worn ember
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i mean, i'd cut my hair myself, but i need to take a new photo for my passport

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since it expired

vernal moth
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We tried to make some ourselves, it was miserable and I was drinking the tequila without anything because it tasted better

worn ember
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buy a cocktail bar and hire a barista

mossy vessel
vernal moth
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Mmmh

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I should just ask the guy that runs my hookah lounge

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The girl there there that makes the cocktails is nice

worn ember
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hookah lounge? what

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are you a pimp mini?

mossy vessel
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I had no drinks at bars since October last year, my 🍹-budget needs to be spent again

worn ember
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i think my last was somewhere in april or march

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sad almost a year now

vernal moth
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October here too

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Halloween was already cancelled, only was at friends

wide chasm
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I didn't know Halloween is celebrated in Germany

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Or is it just something you do?

mossy vessel
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It's yet another excuse to get drunken and move from bar to bar

wide chasm
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Yeah, that does sound like Germany if you put it that way

worn ember
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just get drunk at home, alone, like every sane person

vernal moth
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We pick every reason possible to have an excuse to get drunk

worn ember
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sounds about right

golden gust
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implying germans need an excuse

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Oh, the suns going down!

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Oh, the suns in the sky!

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Oh, I can't see the sun!

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They're sorta like the bear grylls of beer

worn ember
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'i already had a beer, might aswel get more now"

topaz mortar
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Oh the sun has a wonderfull beery color. Time for a beer.

vernal moth
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There's christmas (get drunk with family), new years (get drunk with fireworks), carnival (get drunk with costumes), first May (get drunk in the night), father's day (get drunk while pulling a wagon) and many more

golden gust
woven otter
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better drink some camel dung juice

worn ember
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plant juice

golden gust
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And the trick is to take your your shirt

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and use it to run every last drop of water out of the dung

woven otter
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yes

mossy vessel
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We have lots of drinking days

woven otter
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nothing better than that

mossy vessel
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Tho fathers day is one of my fav because if the weather is great it's gonna be a veeery fun day

worn ember
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yeah but that requires kids xD

mossy vessel
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wat

worn ember
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you need kids to be a father NMF

mossy vessel
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The name of our special days often do not relate to the activity being celebrated

topaz mortar
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DED that is a myth. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

austere ivy
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ded do you have a midi piano or something like that that you can connect to your computer?

worn ember
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so i can be daddy right now?

golden gust
worn ember
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i do havea a midi piano

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idk if i can connect it tho

topaz mortar
austere ivy
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if anyone has a midi piano and wants to see a neat plugin I made lmk >:)

worn ember
visual egret
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if ur 18 you can adopt a 17 year old right

mossy vessel
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Nobody wants to adopt you in 7 years

woven otter
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vst?

austere ivy
austere ivy
worn ember
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lemme see if i can hook it up brian

woven otter
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oh nice

worn ember
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i cant play for shit tho, its my sisters

ashen cliff
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Play anyway.

austere ivy
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no worries :D

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any music that darkeye makes is music to my ears blobheartpeek

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duck do you wanna try it out?

woven otter
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umm sure i guess

worn ember
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@austere ivy ok its connected

austere ivy
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sweet lemme slide into yo dms really quick

worn ember
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sure

vernal moth
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While my piano isn't really midi

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But i can make it midi

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But i don't have a long enough cable to reach my pc

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Is phone good enough?

left swift
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Phone muzak

vernal moth
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What a clusterfuck

woven otter
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smh

austere ivy
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it works with a website which handles midi devices

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I dunno if phones can do that

vernal moth
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Ah

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Sure

austere ivy
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if you want, you can just send custom json requests to an endpoint and it does the same thing lol

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or if you've got a DAW like fl studio or ableton live, that'll work too I think

vernal moth
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Android can read midi

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So am assuming chrome on Android will allow website to use it

austere ivy
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yup!

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if you want I can dm you the server ip and website if that's okay with you

vernal moth
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Sure

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I wanna try

tired heath
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So I added my server (95 % of is ready, last stuff missing) to my plugins ressource page for tests, since I also wanna go fully live with it next month I'm watching logs and stuff continusly. No since I did that, people connected but also disconmected the same minute. It happens often. So I ask myself, is it normal that people do the work to connect to a test server and leave immediately or might there be a bug I oversee... whats your opinion. Logs have no errors at all?

woven otter
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why is mc client redownloading shit reeeee

dim shadow
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@tired heath thats normal lol, try to get a hold of them and ask what they think

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tell them ur server is new if its not marked as such already

tired heath
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But like connecting and disconnecting without delay. Why would you even bother to join at all.

left swift
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Bots probably

tired heath
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Aaa

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Did not thought about bots

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Thy

left swift
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Online mode true or no?

tired heath
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Yeah online

dim shadow
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oh idk about bots lol i was talking about when ppl log in walk around for a minute then leavve

stiff inlet
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Can someone suggest me a backup plugin?

dim shadow
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dont use a plugin lol just do backup script

stiff inlet
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Just search up one on google?

dim shadow
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basically yes

stiff inlet
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Okay

tired heath
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Na bots are a good explaination, there is some protection so they can not talk. May a reason why log is clear and i only see conmect and disconnect. Should have thought about that

dim shadow
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set up rsync somewhere else (like ur personal pc) to keep backups @ multiple locations

stiff inlet
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Thanks!

dim shadow
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npnp

austere ivy
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cya @worn ember o/

woven otter
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would be nice if my mc client wouldn't take 20 minutes to start

dim shadow
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mods?

woven otter
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not even a brand new profile wtf

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no

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just optifine

worn ember
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xD

dim shadow
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potato?

woven otter
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not that big of a potato

waxen panther
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very potato

woven otter
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it just happened out of nowhere

dim shadow
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lol i used beta 1.8 a few months ago and i was like woah wtf insta load

ashen cliff
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That's what you get for not using MultiMC.

woven otter
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wtf finally it finished fInAlizINg

ashen cliff
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jre-legacy

woven otter
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I think that explains why it took ages

dim shadow
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32bit potato?

woven otter
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no

dim shadow
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get 64bit java

woven otter
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i have 64bit java

dim shadow
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y is it in ur program file (x86) folder

woven otter
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read it again

left swift
dim shadow
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o i c

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weird lol but yes

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it is 64

ashen cliff
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Is 500 enough?

upbeat kelp
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Oof wrong serv

worn ember
ashen cliff
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I'll take that as 500 is enough.

dim shadow
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500 wat

ashen cliff
untold copper
tame lantern
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what 500

ashen cliff
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500 CPS.

dim shadow
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i call h@x

ashen cliff
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Aka. my ESP8266 mouse click logger can only handle 500 clicks/s -> SQL.

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And the diff between 80Mhz and 160Mhz is only 100 CPS.
But that makes no sense when you think about it.

dim shadow
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ye sounds liek a buncha math xD

spiral robin
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hello

visual egret
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hi aber

spiral robin
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@meager tusk aPES_Cuddle

austere ivy
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@spiral robin wanna see the super cool piano thing

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even if you don't have a piano or something mini is playing epic piano songs so there's that too

visual egret
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brian can i join

untold copper
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my sister is getting a real piano soon :3

twin lagoon
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@mossy vessel pepelove

olive marlin
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Inb4 that breaks half of the pages.

visual egret
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oauth is ded

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if you want sessions right?

olive marlin
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Also just realized: Total Cookie Protection = TCP xD

limber knotBOT
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the fact that this wasn't default behaviour already is a bit insane

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but nobody tracks with cookies anymore lmao

tropic flame
limber knotBOT
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al, looks like they try to combat the cache tracking too

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*ah

visual egret
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Wasnt that the guy who was just burnt out from open source

limber knotBOT
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but that still doesn't stop timing/benchmark attacks lol

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can't wait for the day when browser start to block javascript by default and require a user to explicitely allow it for a website like they should with any executable code...

visual egret
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how to break all websites 101: disable JS

ashen cliff
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INB4 they still somehow use super cookies.

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Oh yeah, the favicon could bypass the JS block.

wide chasm
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I highly doubt large browsers such as Chrome and Firefox will start blocking JS by default any time soon

limber knotBOT
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OskarZyg: proper ones will work without JS just fine

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it's just the ones that try to shove advertising down your throat which require it

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(and the ones that for some reason use JS to render the website in your browser instead of pre-render it on the server once. wtf)

visual egret
limber knotBOT
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someone should calculate how much energy javascript designs waste lmao

visual egret
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css is super advanced and i love it

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good enough for most things

cunning raft
#

as yes we should just go back to the dark age without js

visual egret
#

until you need to do basic maths

cunning raft
#

so much better then

#

when the whole website had to load everytime you do something

tropic flame
#

wouldn't be a problem if websites weren't damn heavy with their fancy shmancy designs and animations

ashen cliff
#

What if we expended the HTML5 standard?

tropic flame
#

i definitely felt a difference just from optifine updating their website

#

even if minimal

vernal bone
#

Hello! If someone sees robo here please mention me. 😔

#

I got a few questions about tf2 serburs

ashen cliff
#

You mean the lazy GP dev?

olive marlin
#

RoboMWM? Haven't seen them in a while.

visual egret
#

just dm on irc

#

that might work

spiral robin
#

Hi

visual egret
#

hi aber

olive marlin
#

Hello Aber

spiral robin
#

Hello

tulip junco
#

hi guys, do you know a plugin that would modify how slots work? instead of just one total number, I would like to be able to reserve a number of slots for specific permission groups

default scenario:

  • my server has 20 slots but when an admin joins, it can go over 20. let's say two admins join a full server, then the status is 22/20 and of course, no more players can join until the total number of players drops below 20

ideal scenario:

  • my server would have 20 slots for players and 2 slots for admins. when there are e.g. 18 players and 2 admins, the total number is 20, but two player slots are still unused so two normal players could join
visual egret
#

That seems doable with a plugin, theres probably one out there

olive marlin
#

If not, Oskar is happy to write you one free of charge.

#

Jk

visual egret
#

i mean its like 10 lines at most

#

cant be that hard right

tulip junco
#

that happened to me when i was looking for a simple playerlist plugin, one kind soul simply whipped out a new plugin 😄

left mountain
#

There is a lot of bored, or procrastinating, people running around.

tulip junco
#

i can't write a single line of code myself..

visual egret
#

ill write it later, ping me if i dont get back within a few days

tulip junco
#

that would be great, i definitely will 😄

#

thanks!

#

my server has been full every day for a while now (thanks, pandemic) and it's become a nuisance to keep explaining to people why they can't join the server when the status is only 19/20

#

because there is a vanished admin

olive marlin
#

Sounds like something that a vanish plugin should handle.

tulip junco
#

i think it does, but currently it works as intended

#

vanished players should be left out of the count

worn ember
#

Type it in the search bar and hf

twin lagoon
#

oh shut the fuck up brams

#

don't get the songoda drama in here

#

to be perfectly clear here this is guy is part of songoda

worn ember
#

Oh.

twin lagoon
#

no you're wasting your goddamn time

#

fix your plugins or something

worn ember
#

Bruh moment

twin lagoon
#

give people a reason why they should be using songoda shit

#

last month even

pulsar wigeon
#

🍿

worn ember
twin lagoon
#

i work for countless of servers

mental meadow
#

Brianna lied to me

twin lagoon
#

there's an ex-songoda developer ^

worn ember
#

Ironic

twin lagoon
#

ironic

wide hazel
#

ohai Z

upper flicker
#

So a songoda team member joined, brought her up, just so he could then spin some reactions and fight the slander?

twin lagoon
#

yes

upper flicker
#

Am I reading this correctly

worn ember
#

Omg egg is alive?

twin lagoon
#

yes

mental meadow
#

Yes, I've talked with Brianna a lot and helped her with issues, but then she lied to me, so idk

upper flicker
#

That is almost as manipulative as she is

twin lagoon
upper flicker
#

You must be a good fit

pulsar wigeon
#

learning from the best :^)

twin lagoon
#

as you can see no one really gives a shit about songoda

visual egret
#

i have no idea who this songoda person is wtf is happening

upper flicker
#

?ban Brams Advertising/bringing in outside drama/manipulation to benefit a brand

leaden oxideBOT
#

dynoSuccess Brams#0925 was banned | Advertising/bringing in outside drama/manipulation to benefit a brand

mental meadow
#

no i wanted to see the reply 😦

twin lagoon
#

he's fucking pepega

worn ember
#

Smh i wanted more drama :(

twin lagoon
#

he came into my dms last week or so and acted like such a cunt lmao

upper flicker
#

Let’s all move on now

golden gust
#

hai z

limber knotBOT
#

a wild Z appears Oo

golden gust
#

can I interest you in a burrito?

mossy vessel
#

Let's all move to Michael's DMs

worn ember
#

Ok

golden gust
#

Well, I approved a few PRs

#

now it's up to the people who do the mergy mergy coz am too dizzy

worn ember
#

I'm proud of you

warm anchor
#

Wait he came for bait again?

mental meadow
#

You can merge my PRs on the homepage 😄

visual egret
#

again?

warm anchor
#

That guy did it few days ago iirc

upper flicker
#

I can merge your website PRs later

mental meadow
#

uwu

upper flicker
#

I test things though so it’ll take a while

warm anchor
#

Aurora Pepelove

wide hazel
#

Z, soft-shell or hard-shell? Or Doritos ocos?

upper flicker
#

Yes

golden gust
#

I just, brain not feeling well and don't wanna make myself worse pissing around to do the merge ballet

wide hazel
#

fair enough

mental meadow
#

Cat, when are you ever feeling well?

twin lagoon
golden gust
#

if people would help it would be ez but I ain't even going to bother trying to ask people to be nice :/

#

I mean, I erm, before lockdown I was speaking to the doctors about some issues and he lead me into CFS

#

Which, erm, makes sense because looooong term shit but it's never been as bad as it's been this past year since I tried some crazy people meds

warm anchor
#

I hope you get better cat FeelsBadMan

mental meadow
#

My docs say that I should probably go to a clinic for a few weeks to figure shit out, maybe smth like that would help you too, where they can just check your vitals 24/7

golden gust
#

But, was trying to basically rule out other issues too, which, erm, fun

#

fuq that

worn ember
#

No u

limber knotBOT
#

I'm "glad" that my only health problems are my eyes and my back, lol

golden gust
#

listen here grandad

#

❤️

limber knotBOT
#

👀

mental meadow
golden gust
#

I mean, I basically couldn't afford to even if I wanted to

#

and in general, being stuck in a clinic would just fuck me over, like, what would you even do

mental meadow
#

yeah thats another issue

golden gust
#

Like, I hate not doing stuff, I can't even really watch movies as I just get boooored af

limber knotBOT
#

play minecraft thinksmart

#

I heard it's a pretty good game

mental meadow
#

I mean for me it would be mostly therapy and stuff besides the medical things

worn ember
#

You could take your laptop and merge prs all day

golden gust
#

Sure, but, y'all would need to save up for a new laptop for me to take in

limber knotBOT
#

inb4 cat just spams the merge button on everything

visual egret
#

"i have done all the pr's"

worn ember
#

I think I have like 5 laying around lol

#

I'll send you one

mental meadow
#

Merge PaperPR% Worldrecord

visual egret
#

lets do any% PaperPR

golden gust
#

I'm like mentally dead and each time I try to start on it I ever overwork myself and drain myself out, or hope that others will actually get to merging it, which, erm

#

yea

visual egret
#

exploit github 0days to merge paper pr's

vernal bone
#

Or, just give access to the pr authors to merge thinksmart

mental meadow
#

how about no

golden gust
#

just, no

#

bad

#

sit down

#

DOWN!

vernal bone
mental meadow
#

bad oskar

visual egret
#

would that classify as cheating in the speedrun tho

golden gust
#

brb, writing vote merge

wide hazel
#

eggutils coming to Paper soon

warm anchor
#

Oskar I ma tell on you on yer mom

golden gust
#

eggutils just leaves you in doubt

warm anchor
visual egret
#

what u gonna say eternity

#

huh

wide hazel
#

eggutils, the only library that promises only pain and suffering!

golden gust
#

so, you get a bucket of water and fill it with a spigot and put the egg in there, for it to woosh out from the bottom and hit the ceiling and leave the room smelling like deviled eggs

worn ember
#

Wtf did i just read

wide hazel
#

eggs

void void
#

Hey, how to copy, load and unload a world without lag in async task ?
I would create a temporary world from a original template world

visual egret
#

no idea

golden gust
#

imagine testing an egg like that where you like stick it in a cup and instead of floating it just shoots out and hits the cieling

golden gust
#

unloading/loading is generally fast so long as you don't load spawn chunks

brave radish
#

if (recipe.getMaterial() == Material.NETHERITE_HOE) {
runtime.halt(1);
}
when you let people merge their own PRs

limber knotBOT
#

Matteow: loading/unloading doesn't lag if you make sure that the spawn chunks don't get loaded

#

for the copying just do it async

golden gust
#

beyond that, just unload sync, jump async, do IO, go sync, load world

#

ez

visual egret
#

i wouldn't bother reinventing the wheel

limber knotBOT
#

SWM IS reinventing the wheel

#

runs

void void
limber knotBOT
#

you let the server do that

#

there is nothing special to do to load chunks, the server will automatically do that when you teleport the player or call the load methods (ideally you use the async ones to avoid sync loads)

void void
#

so there will be no lag felt by other players who are in another world?

worn ember
#

then you pray to the bukkit gods it actually loads

limber knotBOT
#

if you do it right, no

golden gust
#

if you use the async apis as we keep saying, no

limber knotBOT
#

I use dynamic world loading for my skyblock server and you don't feel anything lol

left mountain
#

what server o.o

limber knotBOT
#

also why tf does luckperms' web editor not support times and only dates for expiry -.-

#

Minebench, it's German though :P

worn ember
#

wtf naming your server after a program to get publicity boost

#

shame on you

left mountain
#

No worries, I know a few words.

#

Like two or three.

limber knotBOT
#

oof

ashen cliff
#

Since we have a bunch of people here. Is there anyone from TopG here? kekwhyper

worn ember
#

oh wait thats blockbench

#

nvm carry on phoenix

golden gust
#

oh god, reminds me of this really questionable joke my so called father used to tell...

limber knotBOT
#

Minebench is a defunct benchmarking suite/company

#

or well, technically "MineBench"

left mountain
#

what version are you on

worn ember
#

very cool

left mountain
#

Pluginentwicklung pog

worn ember
#

imagine being german tho

#

couldn't be me

left mountain
#

Never liked the language

golden gust
#
I like the story of the German on holiday in France. He got pulled over by a police officer. The police officer stared asking him some questions, "Name?" "Wolgang Klaus" "Age?" "36" "Occupation?" "No, just visiting"
left mountain
#

...xd

worn ember
#

lol

dim shadow
#

fair questien ._.

left mountain
#

it's a bit of a shame that you stream in German, bet more people would join for the programming

limber knotBOT
#

yeah, the language thing is kinda annoying lol

#

I just don't think running a stream in multiple langauge is ideal once you start gaming with friends

#

people just tend to get confused lol

#

you have to stick to one language so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

left mountain
#

"The_Moep is on vacation and will return in 4 years." 🤔

limber knotBOT
#

;D

left mountain
#

yeah, sucks, you don't need commentary that much for programming, will prob watch anyway,... I'll set a reminder for when you return from your vacation... xd

limber knotBOT
#

lol

left mountain
#

actually fun to try and understand Deutsch again xd

mental meadow
#

what are your favorite optimizations in paper

zealous wedge
#

mine is aurora 💜

mental meadow
#

uwu

#

but serious question tho 😄

next frost
#

aurora best optimization :3

mental meadow
#

I need to know for reasons

next frost
#

I don't actually know how much difference the armor stand tick thingy makes, but I like it

wide chasm
#

Probably async chunks

next frost
#

that too yeah

glad bone
#

anyone here knows anything about ports ?

wide chasm
#

But considering I only run servers locally for testing and haven't bothered changing any of the default settings, I'm probably not the one to ask

vernal bone
wraith trail
#

Is there a sort of "list of things paper does" somewhere?

#

Besides commit messages that is

zealous wedge
#

it's the patch list :p

wraith trail
#

Well yeah, fair

glad bone
#

=-=

mental meadow
wraith trail
#

And I suck at naming thing, if you actually ask your question does much higher likelihood of being answered

mental meadow
#

.ask as usual

glad bone
#

oh okie

limber knotBOT
#

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

warm anchor
#

Has korobi never have a profile pic? Or I just never noticed Think

vernal bone
#

If I click on Korobi it shows me phoenixes profile lol

glad bone
#

so I used to host a server on a local fiber optic network Then I changed the service from fiber to copper from that moment ports did not work and they router give me in a IPv6 so I changed that to ipv4 but still did not work I tried looking in web nothin can anyone help pls

wraith trail
#

Used to be this guy

#

Don't know where that went

warm anchor
#

Nice sulu remembered.

glad bone
#

=-=

wraith trail
#

Possibly your behind cgnat

visual egret
#

i havent tested it but it should work

wraith trail
#

Some providers do that for copper specifically but not other services

vernal bone
#

Oskar I'm in need of a developer 😔

left mountain
#

@wheat quarry I finished the skyblock lobby parkour and got nothing .-. what a dissapointment

worn ember
visual egret
#

if its more than 10 lines of code i wont do it simon

golden gust
#

Yea, I had that effect on my parents too

wraith trail
#

Well no

#

Idk on my phone now so don't want to explain networking

glad bone
#

and all my devices have the same public ipv4 address

golden gust
#

double check for forwards otherwise you'll need to speak to your ISP

vernal bone
visual egret
#

send as much as you can

#

im getting into public plugin dev

golden gust
#

We can't help with network setup as there's far too many variables and people waste too much of our time with janky network setups, etc, nooot going there

vernal bone
#

secretly going into sulus dms for ideas

glad bone
golden gust
#

if you are actually behind a CGNAT, you're sol

warm anchor
#

Oskar working for free? POGGIES

visual egret
#

kinda

golden gust
#

if your router lets you see the WAN address, make sure that it matches up with that google shows

#

otherwise glhf

glad bone
#

Bruh

#

I cant find anything talking about thAT

mental meadow
#

You should learn about networking...

glad bone
#

i DID

#

WELL

vernal bone
#

Saving money on developers, best way to make the costs lower with an mc network trust me kekw

glad bone
#

KIND A

left mountain
warm anchor
glad bone
#

sry tha caps are loocked

visual egret
mental meadow
#

no I think they are

glad bone
#

Shhhesh your 12 ?

visual egret
#

no

#

im 13

mental meadow
#

...

glad bone
#

NICE

visual egret
#

but its close enough to worry

mental meadow
warm anchor
#

😉

golden gust
#

I used to say I was older than 13 too

glad bone
#

yeah I should ask 9-1-1

#

lol

visual egret
vernal bone
worn ember
#

i just ran the server myself

#

i could be however old i wanted to be

visual egret
#

i tried making my own social medea

#

it failed

glad bone
#

OKie

worn ember
#

good

glad bone
#

so I have to fix the CGNAT Thing

#

humm

visual egret
#

i didnt know what a database was so i just opened text files with usernames and passwords and posts

golden gust
#

if you do have CGNAT, you're generally SOL unless your ISP lets you buy an IP or something

warm anchor
#

Fiber to Cooper is a big oof

#

If I ever gonna move or purchase a house I will make damn sure I am in fiver coverage lol. Cant imagine switching back

glad bone
#

SAD

warm anchor
#

You are downgrading to an extremely outdated networking and they had to find ways to still maintain the system

#

Can you even get 50down on it lol

glad bone
#

I GET 25

warm anchor
#

Something like 50down and 5up?

#

Yeah it has big limitation

glad bone
#

yeah kinda

#

yes

#

I can do 120

#

but it well COST alot

warm anchor
#

Yeah it’s fucked

glad bone
#

so Im fucked up ?

#

nice

#

life is good

#

What should I do with the sERver ?

#

if I cant use it THen

wraith trail
#

How have you determined you are in fact behind cgnat. Unless I am missing something it is also possible you ahve misconfigured something.

ashen cliff
#

Proxy the server?

glad bone
#

I well have to talk with the freaking ISB

#

wait

glad bone
#

and I cant type

golden gust
#

"another router"

glad bone
#

Frak

golden gust
#

Do you have two routers right now?

glad bone
#

yes

wraith trail
#

are they connected together?

golden gust
#

This is what I mean about stupid network setups

glad bone
#

nah one at the time

wraith trail
#

ok

#

good

golden gust
#

make sure that you're plugged into the ISPs router or whatever it closer to the wall

glad bone
#

bro

#

I asked my ISP to send help

wraith trail
#

People accidentally set up double nat all the time

glad bone
#

they did everythink

visual egret
#

networking hurts

golden gust
#

ISPs send out people trained in telephone lines generally

#

not those who actually understand proper networking

glad bone
#

yes

#

this is what he told m e

#

when i asked him

wraith trail
#

If you log into whatever router you have currently, does it say "wan ip" anywhere?

#

or frankly anything about WAN

glad bone
#

im not that dum

visual egret
#

what ISP are you on?

wraith trail
#

I'm not trying to say your dumb

#

I'm asking a question

glad bone
#

Im on TELUS

#

wait

wraith trail
#

They do use cgnat in some areas and some services

glad bone
wraith trail
#

And on the front page of their stock router they send, it does say what your wan ip is

glad bone
wraith trail
#

so look below that

#

that's unrelated

glad bone
#

bruh

wraith trail
#

I need to know what your router claims your wan ip is

#

If you can't answer these questions, I can't provide support

glad bone
#

IK

wraith trail
#

and don't look up "what is my ip". I need to know what your router says

glad bone
wraith trail
#

not there

glad bone
#

any of these ?

wraith trail
#

Don't have one in front of me, but iirc it's just on the front page

#

but if it's not, go to "WAN IP addressing"

glad bone
#

wan type is DSL

wraith trail
#

not that

#

in that case, go to wan ip addressing and send a screenshot of that page

glad bone
wraith trail
#

I see

glad bone
wraith trail
#

ok, I could have sworn this was right on the front page

#

Could you send a screenshot of the very front page?

glad bone
#

yeah but IDK if its safe ?

wraith trail
#

It'll list devices connected to the top left, forgot whats on the right

#

if you want you can dm it to me

glad bone
#

still not save but okie

wraith trail
#

Nothing there is personal information

warm anchor
#

I entrust sulu with my first born

#

It’s ok

wraith trail
#

100.83.92.162
yup cgnat

glad bone
#

LIfE IS GOOD

twin lagoon
#

well, no

warm anchor
#

At least you can die peacefully now

glad bone
#

Yeah

#

life is

#

GOOD

wraith trail
#

so basically nothing you can do

vernal bone
#

Depends

wraith trail
#

why your isp even sent a guy out for this is beyond me

warm anchor
glad bone
#

so your saying I have to pay my ISP to get the NAT ?

wraith trail
#

Not to get nat

#

to get what they might describe as a "dedicated ip address" or something

#

not all isps will even do that

#

So you can either do that, or proxy your server from some rented vps

glad bone
wraith trail
#

Or if it's only for a few friends, you can use something like zerotier

glad bone
#

I have a friend with a fiber optic and I have 2 server I can proxy them from there ?

wraith trail
#

"yes" however that is both dumb and I have no intent on walking you through any of that

#

but I mean yeah, it'd work

#

only thing is telus caps are very low

#

well and all the other fun with home hosting

glad bone
#

so How d afuck would I proxy that if its not working here ?

#

like

wraith trail
#

rent a vps, proxy it through there

#

although again not gonna touch that

glad bone
#

thank you tho

#

U just saved me 100$

#

';'

#

so I should sell them or its worth getting VPS ?

wraith trail
#

sell what?

#

I have no idea what your trying to ask

glad bone
#

the servers

wraith trail
#

home hosting in general is an awful idea for anything public

#

so yes, it is feasible to get a vps and proxy everything through there, however expect issues

glad bone
wraith trail
#

Home hosting should really be relegated to private services

#

so "yes", look up wireguard. There are plenty of tutorials for how to do it with that. But is it a good idea, no.

mental meadow
#

I did that with wireguard once, it was fun

glad bone
#

Thank you again

wraith trail
#

Home hosting some things is of course fine, not trying to say otherwise.

#

But 30-60 players is pushing it by a lot

glad bone
#

I dont host for cash I host for fun

wraith trail
#

I'm not talking about money

glad bone
#

yeah i get attacked alot but I got them back

#

ik what are you saying

#

but i cant pay every month for a hosting

#

I cant buy a whole server to just FUn

#

idk

warm anchor
#

Cancel home internet and rent a server instead krappa

visual egret
#

every home host goes through this feeling

visual egret
wraith trail
#

I even home host some stuff

#

so not entirely against it

#

just not generally a remotely good idea

visual egret
#

its only a good idea if you already have the hardware and you dont pay for power

#

i fulfil those requirements

wraith trail
#

well not public stuff in that sense

#

that's still dumb

glad bone
#

its not if your not dum

wraith trail
#

well say @upbeat falcon I host form my home, mainly because I haven't cared to put it elsewhere

#

And 2 no one is connecting to it

#

but home hosting public stuff is just stupid

#

however this conversation has now been beat to death

glad bone
#

well U need help

#

u sound like u had a lot of PROBLEMS in home hosting

visual egret
#

sounds like you also have lots of problems @glad bone

glad bone
#

yeah kind a

#

but still fine I had fun

visual egret
#

i cant wait until i stop procrastinating

#

then i can actually set up my hardware properly

#

and install pterodactyl

glad bone
#

=---=

#

Oh wait

#

I was looking for something

#

"Looking For WIFe "

#

xD

wild escarp
visual egret
#

microsoft edge is ok

wild escarp
#

i dont like it

glad bone
#

the new one is ok

visual egret
#

i uninstalled chrome and installed the dev version of edge

wild escarp
#

i prefer brave

visual egret
#

pls

glad bone
#

oh okei sry did not see that

waxen panther
#

tf is goin on in here

visual egret
#

what is this supposed to mean

mental meadow
glad bone
waxen panther
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tragic

visual egret
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Ok fun second public plugin released

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intended% spigotmc speedrun

woven otter
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does it include dream's luck

limber knotBOT
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lmao, bitcoin is down by 10k in two days

visual egret
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dreams luck is cheats% minecraft iirc

woven otter
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I wonder how much btc will crash

wide pond
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lol sub $1k

woven otter
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big doubt

limber knotBOT
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my bet is ~25-30k

wide pond
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lower than that

limber knotBOT
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lol no

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there are people actively buying billions right now

woven otter
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25-30k could be the case. tho somewhat an upward trend would be nice

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well

limber knotBOT
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or well, I assume some stopped which is why it is correcting now

woven otter
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i guess elon's hype ended lol

limber knotBOT
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more like the people that bought into it have invested what they wanted to invest

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but it doesn't matter anyways, it only goes up ¯_(ツ)_/¯

visual egret
wide pond
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i remember in 2017 it went from $20k to $10k real quick

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this crash will probably be more than 50% imo

cunning raft
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paper #general armchair investment analysis desk

wide pond
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gotta love it

woven otter
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so far it doesn't look worse than what happened in january

wide pond
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this analysis is coming from someone that gambled away 70 bitcoins on primedice when i was 14

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pretty solid track record

limber knotBOT
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I mean, I sold 2btc at 400 lmao

wide pond
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good shit bro im sure you made like 100% returns

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dont be sad

woven otter
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i bet it feels bad

limber knotBOT
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I'm not sad xD

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but it's a bit annoying to know

wide pond
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hehe

limber knotBOT
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I mean I made 100% profit so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

woven otter
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annoying is knowing what you did or didn't do at the right time. no way around it 😄

wide pond
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annoying is alphabay getting seized by the feds when ur a 15 year old boy with $500 in ur btc wallet trying to order some weed on the internet

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i mean what

limber knotBOT
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lol

wide pond
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anyways anyone here know a thing or two about web development

untold meadow
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sadly yes

woven otter
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.ask

limber knotBOT
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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

visual egret
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ah yes it is very likely that a community of 16,100+ people that do code know nothing about web dev

warm anchor
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Paper should make its own crypto and call it paper money. krappa

visual egret
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ok

woven otter
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I already suggested PRCoin

spiral robin
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@mental meadow aPES_Cuddle

mental meadow
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uwu