general

[warm anchor]

Look at eBay runs

[tired heath]

sweepy 60 bugs for 4 cores (not sure if deticated) and 16 gb ram, a month is not cheap

[merry talon]

those are fully dedicated ryzen 3900x cores

its a good deal

[warm anchor]

Pretty good deal actually

[tired heath]

okay, you guys are used to other price ranges 🙂

[merry talon]

plus NVMe disk and $3 magic transit/path

[tired heath]

wanna rent a server?

I get you one

[merry talon]

its objectively a good deal

[tired heath]

"Our competitors are expensive and complicated. Someone has to pay for their opulent living, the vacations, the yachts. " really

^^

added buyvm to personal blacklist

[warm anchor]

[merry talon]

i give up

the stupidity is ingrained too deeply

[tired heath]

hmm sorry, I mean you tried to help but, thank you anyways

Is just not my thing, this thing

[untold copper]

y e s

[limber knot]

Looks like cheating to me

[magic river]

I think that 83.5 would be a C at the school I went to

[tired heath]

By the way, reviews about that "buywm" confirm my "stupidity"

just saying 🙂

[worn ember]

very cool

[warm anchor]

Math. Not even once.

[merry talon]

trusting random LET reviews does actually indeed after all show just how stupid you are

[untold copper]

what not even once 👀

[tired heath]

true ture

[merry talon]

https://tenor.com/view/played-yourself-dj-khaled-gif-11099992

[untold copper]

thats just terrible, I did so badly in science

:c

dum teachers won't gimme marks

[worn ember]

yes dum teachers

[magic river]

I don't remember the exact scaling but iirc B+ started at 92

[tired heath]

Goging to burn my money now on buywm, what offers worse con. than I have now, so I just do not pay for the yachts of other hosters

[worn ember]

imagine using letters to represent numbers

[tired heath]

^^ as they claimed

[worn ember]

hello have you got A? No i got 79

[untold copper]

[merry talon]

you can represent more numbers if you use letters instead of numbers

[limber knot]

Germany's grading system in grades 1 - 10 is better to that extent

[merry talon]

this post was made by the hexadecimal gang

[worn ember]

Numbers: literally infinite
letters: 26

[topaz mortar]

nonsense we do not have such stupid things

[olive marlin]

We have 1-6, but with + and - in school.

And university is 2-5 with halves xD

[vernal moth]

uni here is 1, 1.3, 1.7, 2

[worn ember]

hear me out, actually using the amount of points you can gain as the grade

[vernal moth]

so not even halfes

[magic river]

That's just the same thing the US does but with numbers instead of letters

[vernal moth]

just really stupid

[merry talon]

no that's not how it works, you have to think about the base

[limber knot]

Yes, but 6 is worse than 1

[merry talon]

numbers are only 0-9

[magic river]

In primary school we had E - Exceeds Expectations, and so on, I forget the rest

Like Hogwarts or something 😛

[worn ember]

did you attend the wizarding school?

[untold copper]

I love how one second the general chat can be discussing world wars one moment and instantly change to discussing school grading systems.

[merry talon]

I want to see my grade as 0x58F

[worn ember]

i had a teacher who taught computer systems and he'd put the page numbers in all kinds of bases, along with all numbers used on the exam

not so fun if you ask me

[merry talon]

E G S N I believe

I had that and the traditional system for some reason

[worn ember]

i wish they taught hex in elementary

at least it wouldnt be such a weird concept to wrap your head around then

[magic river]

Ah, yeah, Excellent, Satisfactory, Needs Improvement, and Unsatisfactory

[merry talon]

wat

excellent, good, satisfactory, needs improvement

[magic river]

I think we had a Good in there too

I just looked it up 😛

[merry talon]

Oh

[worn ember]

smh 95% of the overwatch cases i get are just people reporting others cuz they're tilted lol

stupid toxic community

[vernal moth]

in german we just mapped 1-6 onto names. very good, good, satisfactory, sufficient, inadequate and insufficient

or however you wanna translate them

[merry talon]

what's the difference between inadequate and insufficient lol

[magic river]

Pretty sure that's where we stole our primary school system from

Or you stole it from us, either way

[vernal moth]

inadequate (5) means you did smth but you did bad and insufficient (6) mostly means you didnt even try

its like the dnf of grades I guess 😂

[merry talon]

oh tag yourself I'm insufficient

[magic river]

There are versions with 6 tiers, they replace NI and U with Mediocre, Insufficient, and Failure

[worn ember]

my parents got a Failure

[untold copper]

https://tenor.com/view/andy-samberg-burn-gift-tumblr-zoom-in-gif-12281167

[woven otter]

use gradle to be instantly better

[onyx steeple]

Hey everyone! 🙂

[minor badge]

[worn ember]

👀

real g sand

[limber knot]

ok i just bought a udemy course on react

fun

[mossy vessel]

[worn ember]

ah yes, databases, forgot how much fun these are

[olive garden]

hey gsand, long time no see

[onyx steeple]

Hey everyone

Hey @olive garden

Yeah, lol

2021 has been a crazy year so far

[olive garden]

was 2020 any better?

[onyx steeple]

2020 was great for me

terrible for society, but great for me

[olive garden]

lol

[worn ember]

epic

[limber knot]

legend, the udemy guy just said, "and if you are on linux, you already know how to install node"

heh

[topaz mortar]

that is right.

[worn ember]

i know how to google

can i be a linux pro now?

[topaz mortar]

most of the childs in #paper-dev cannot.

[mossy vessel]

Sadly, often it's not down to children only

[topaz mortar]

Jap that's the sad truth.

[woven otter]

gradle

[worn ember]

no

[woven otter]

yes

[worn ember]

never

[woven otter]

I'll PR it to all of your plugins

[olive garden]

aka git clone https://github.com/DarkEyeDragon/xyz && gradle init && rm pom.xml && git add -A && git commit -m "switch from Maven to Gradle" && git push

[worn ember]

rejected

[worn ember]

that means you'll have to maintain them all too

[limber knot]

ePiC RoASt

[woven otter]

pretty much

• the shading part ig

[limber knot]

tf does ig mean

[wide chasm]

I guess

[limber knot]

thanks

[cunning raft]

hello @golden gust question for you, I fixed the hex color code shit for paper (properly), would you like a new patch or amend the current TCA patch

i was thinking new one so we can revert if TCA ever changes their mind and adds native RGB support

[worn ember]

[cunning raft]

im sure he'll be fine

he was the one looking into this before which is why i pinged him :p

for now i'll do a new patch, he can yell at my later if he wants something else

[left swift]

I googled what chmod is so basically I'm a 6 figure linux sysadmin now

[worn ember]

sounds about right

[hazy marlin]

How do I move my mySQL tables to a different database?

[topaz mortar]

dump and restore.

[spiral robin]

@waxen panther

[modest path]

If you're using PhpMyadmin there's a really easy export thing they've got going on

[hazy marlin]

Yes I am

found it

[limber knot]

I saw an animated png the other day, wtf?

[left swift]

Ugg

[minor badge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG oskar

[tired heath]

Meeh players crying for a timber plugin, can smth recommend one?

[left swift]

Google

[tired heath]

I already have some to choose, what I wanna know is expi. of others

[left swift]

Read reviews

[tired heath]

okay, whatever

[left swift]

How are we supposed to know what you and your server wants

[runic shale]

Good afternoon everyone

[tired heath]

I just search for a plugin that changes grafity of wood when you chop it. There are so many of them and all have good revs.

Is kinda hard to choose

[runic shale]

Is there anyway I can support you guys and I know this seems like a dumb question but I like you guys

[minor badge]

you can contribute to individual github sponsors

[runic shale]

👀 show me the link

[minor badge]

well, who do you wanna sponsor? they've usually got a github linked on their discord profile, which then links to sponsors on the left hand side

[runic shale]

Hm idk yet

[woven otter]

simp for z

[tame lantern]

.replace("D", "Tr") + "s";

[left swift]

Wasn't there a group fund for donating for backend costs

[wide chasm]

I think Z had a donate button for Paper on the CI, but that isn't accessible anymore, so no idea where that went.

[left swift]

Make a patreon for paper

[runic shale]

I might just nitro boost in 3 days

Instead

I do love the taco fan role lmao

[left swift]

Tacos are gross

#burgergang

[wide chasm]

I've never had a taco

[runic shale]

What!?

[cedar spade]

Biggest taco fans are banned from #delicious-tacos bc Paper doesn't want us to leak the secret taco conspiracy

[left swift]

This role is a mark of suppression and a badge of honor for #burgergang

[woven otter]

[minor badge]

borgar

[runic shale]

Lol

The Burger King near my house is shutting down to to laziness

[cedar spade]

Ah yes

[left swift]

The Burger King in my town is ran by meth heads

[runic shale]

Lol

I work at Burger King but I want to quit the job and work as a developer xd

On servers

[left swift]

Be a developer for burgers instead big untapped market

[runic shale]

Xd

I do like burgers but the Burger King where I live is dumb because they got so many slow and toxic people

And that's why they are not successful

[cedar spade]

Welcome to 80% of chain fast food outlets

[runic shale]

Lol

[minor badge]

you don't needa be spitting out 100 burgers a second yaknow

[cedar spade]

yes you do

[runic shale]

[minor badge]

taking it a bit relaxed is important to enjoying the work in the slightest, and to be able to stick around for another year

[olive marlin]

But I want food fast!

[runic shale]

Here is the thing I do like about it you get free food if u work there

[lethal locust]

anyone wants to buy my crypto? It's called vagdoodle

[cedar spade]

No thanks

[lethal locust]

1 USD = 0.0 vagdoodle

[runic shale]

No

[lethal locust]

you will regret the no one day

vagdoodle will rise!11111!!!

[minor badge]

regret the who day

[runic shale]

LMAO

[lethal locust]

😂

I actually had a guy message me from another server

[left swift]

Proxicoin to the moon 🚀

[lethal locust]

he offered me some russian currency for 3 vagdoodles

[runic shale]

Lmao wtf

[lethal locust]

I was like "dude, it's a joke". 😛

[runic shale]

[lethal locust]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[spiral robin]

I see life in a philosophical way. There's no right or wrong, there's no unfair or fair, and so on. Some good person might die tomorrow because of cancer and everyone close will say how unfair life can be and what of bad way to leave. You don't always have to do the right thing to succeed at something, which is what most people will tell you to do, the good & ethical thing. This doesn't mean you should steal people, but it also doesn't mean you should lock yourself on what most define as ethical and right. SpigotMC is a bunch of algorithms, and if you treat them right, you get a good position. The right for the platform won't always be right for humans, and I am fine with that.

[fervent timber]

i just thought the fact that he "never had to turn the server off" to save his setting was hilarious xD

[spiral robin]

I hope you guys will understand 😔

[left swift]

Is that a copy pasta about piracy

[runic shale]

How do you get the contributor role here?
Donating money?

[zealous wedge]

I understand aber

[cedar spade]

I understand aber

[zealous wedge]

thank you for saying it

[left swift]

Contributing ur life

[runic shale]

👀

[spiral robin]

thank u guys for accepting me

@zealous wedge @cedar spade

[woven otter]

No let's make PRCoin you know so PRs get merged

[lethal locust]

nice idea

I will merge my current value with your coin

[left swift]

I'll make a fork that'll merge all prs from all ur coins

[cedar spade]

I too see life in a philosophical way

[left swift]

Do tell

[cedar spade]

Well, there's no right or wrong, no unfair or fair, and so on

[left swift]

Deep

[lethal locust]

no, let's make a fork of a fork

[worn ember]

so if i beat you up there is no wrong?

[lethal locust]

probably based on collective human thought, it is wrong

but in someone's brain, you never know

[modest path]

tHats deEp

[spiral robin]

Spotify for Android

Need slide to queue and I can die happily

3rd party clients are dead and not allowed

[stray oyster]

Boop @minor badge

[hidden lance]

looking for a java smp dm

me

[spiral robin]

[mossy vessel]

No

[vestal jasper]

No

[minor badge]

@stray oyster

[candid spindle]

where

is the drama

[limber knot]

hi

[candid spindle]

I was told there was drama

where

[left swift]

Oskar using irc is the drama

[candid spindle]

smh

[limber knot]

no it isnt

[candid spindle]

stop using irc

[limber knot]

i left the discord

i might as well use irc

[mossy vessel]

irc is the drama

[left swift]

#ircgate

[spiral robin]

@mossy vessel

[limber knot]

if you dont like irc go to #politics or something

[mossy vessel]

@spiral robin

[spiral robin]

Come over 🍷

[mossy vessel]

🍷 looks like blood

[left swift]

Yes

[mossy vessel]

Not that I'd refuse that

[spiral robin]

[limber knot]

:eyes:

[spiral robin]

I'm moving

[limber knot]

to where

[spiral robin]

Anywhere

So nmf doesn't have my address anymore

[limber knot]

so irc #paper?

happy place really

[mossy vessel]

Hello????

V rude

[left swift]

H rude

[mossy vessel]

@spiral robin Don't pretend you'd refuse a

[spiral robin]

[warm anchor]

aber

[analog steppe]

Java.getCompiler("C++").compile(jarFile);

[cunning raft]

ok

[quick pasture]

^

[limber knot]

my new domain shows up on the bottom of the first page :(

my old one is still somehow higher

[cunning raft]

ok

[mossy vessel]

The SEO of https://onedoteight.download/ is not the best, unfortunately

[limber knot]

Why would it be any good?

[mossy vessel]

Because I'm amazing af

[limber knot]

next time someone asks me how to get minecraft for free im sending them that link

And I should stop clicking random links, good thing my browser is damn slow

Almost got a virus

[mossy vessel]

Damn, I own so many trash domains

[golden gust]

Nmfs empire of dirt

[mossy vessel]

😌

[limber knot]

https://i.imgur.com/KNY2aPM.png guyser

[stray oyster]

https://Howoldisminecraft188.today

[limber knot]

still pretty new smh

[warm anchor]

damn Oskar is almost as old as 1.8

[stray oyster]

Screw you discord

[mossy vessel]

guyser

[limber knot]

eternity thats like half of my age

[mossy vessel]

[spiral robin]

[limber knot]

mojang api timestap is given as an int or what

because the wrapper im using is giving me a number from millenia in the future

[wraith trail]

depends what endpoint your looking at

[meager tusk]

aber on paper !

❤️

[wraith trail]

but anyways, its all listed here

.g wikivg mojang api

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://wiki.vg/Mojang_API

oh its in ms

[spiral robin]

@meager tusk

[ebon plinth]

So probably a silly question, and a hypothetical because I’m probably not gonna do it, but how well would a server run on one of the new Mac mini in windows boot camp?

I’m currently using an old laptop for my server but it’s really starting to lag and fall apart xd

[wraith trail]

who knows, but why?

that sounds dumb

[mossy vessel]

For a small setup fee ima host it on my freezer

Cooling is 👌

[peak dirge]

Apparently this flies as a "farm truck". Looks nothing like the sort. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuNmt7_XUAAgPLK?format=jpg&name=large

[left swift]

A truck u use on the farm is a farm truck

Doesnt mean it has to be old or something

[upper flicker]

presumably he means its not registered to be on public roads

[left swift]

Maybe

[zealous knot]

Why is that a problem that someone who's not from the DMV should care about tho

[upper flicker]

we had a bunch of people where I grew up do basically the same thing

no cop no stop applies to lots of stuff

[left swift]

I've never seen a farm truck that's strictly set for on farm only though

Most farm trucks are just haulers

[upper flicker]

if its on the public roads it should be registered, but thats a problem for the police

idk why anyone else would care too much

[zealous knot]

exactly

[left swift]

Ask tux

[zealous knot]

lets ping him

[left swift]

U first

[zealous knot]

no u

[vernal moth]

In germany, you can get a special thingy to be allowed to drive on forest and farm roads, which are basically public roads but not proper, so they are not allowed for normal cars and only if you "belong" there

[upper flicker]

if you live in a rural area in the US, you'd probably just get a verbal warning for it, assuming you were stopped at all

[mossy vessel]

I've never seen a German sign with that much text on

[mental meadow]

Austria!

😄

[zealous knot]

Great now everyone's gonna start telling about a random road fact in their country

[upper flicker]

tries to read that while driving past

[mental meadow]

that is not bad since you are likely driving like 10kmh max

this however is right next to the autobahn

[upper flicker]

discord's /me let me down there

[mossy vessel]

Just read it veeeeeeeeeery slow

[upper flicker]

or ptb rendering I guess

[zealous knot]

pet the beast?

[upper flicker]

public test build

[zealous knot]

BORING

[upper flicker]

or something

[left swift]

Yea blame discord z

[upper flicker]

their new popup thing for commands is awful

I get they want to make them more visible but bleh

[limber knot]

when all else fails, there's always the good ol good ol :^)

[austere ivy]

what's the usual convention for naming the groupId and artifactId with a multi-subproject project?

in this instance, I've got a project named mcmidi that has two separate components, mcmidi-web and mcmidi-server. mcmidi-server is further divided up into the api and the implementation

[minor badge]

I usually do com.proximyst.${project}:${moduleName}

so e.g. com.proximyst.moonshine:common

though I should move it over to st.proximy

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/3klqMQoJnLk

[austere ivy]

so like, for the mcmidi-server api, it'd be xyz.tehbrian.mcmidi-server:api?

or would xyz.tehbrian.mcmidi:server-api be better?

[worn ember]

why not .server:api

[austere ivy]

xyz.tehbrian.mcmidi.server:api? dunno, would that be better?

[worn ember]

idk lul

[austere ivy]

mcmidi-web and mcmidi-server are two different github repos

[worn ember]

oh

well in that case first one

[austere ivy]

uh.. mcmidi-server:api then?

[worn ember]

xyz.tehbrian.mcmidi-server:api ye

[austere ivy]

alright cool thank ye. also, should it just be McMidiServer or is the dash in the name fine

I'm horrible at naming things lol

[golden gust]

I mean

[minor badge]

i named my library of language after an alcoholic drink; don't think i'm much better

[golden gust]

it's group:artifact

[austere ivy]

with another way of thinking, mcmidi is almost like a project (so, group) so shouldn't it be mcmidi:server-api because mcmidi is the group and server-api is kinda like the.. sub....project?

I dunno I'm just gonna go with mcmidi-server:api thanks lol

[minor badge]

i'd do mcmidi:server-api yea

[austere ivy]

well now you're making me second guess myself lol

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/psxdY1WUUHs why does this have 14 million views

[austere ivy]

appropriate quote: "There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation and naming things." -Phil Karlton

[vivid ivy]

The whole x but y concept is super popular, people love and click hard on these gimmicks in every fandom/gaming community

Think it also gets pushed hard by the algorithm

[warm anchor]

Minecraft but everything is Ded joke

[worn ember]

at least it'd be good

[worn ember]

they're so bad tho

[left swift]

Some are

Theres some good ones

[vivid ivy]

told a friend of mine to make this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPTcNX0KXGI

[worn ember]

are you telling me i can make a plugin that makes my wooden pickaxe op and get 16million views?

[warm anchor]

Imagine kids

[vivid ivy]

got 200k views so yeah

[warm anchor]

Imagine nothing to do at home

so you watch Dreams and TapL all day

[worn ember]

"minecraft but its for 18+"

[left swift]

Nope

[vivid ivy]

that'd probably get clicks

[left swift]

No adult content kn the algorithm

[worn ember]

sorry 13+

[left swift]

Unless is roblox

[vivid ivy]

but potentially also instant demonitization which also means no algorithm

[left swift]

Or irl Disney princess stuff

[worn ember]

Minecraft but people actually have braincells

[vivid ivy]

spiderman vs elsa but in minecraft

ez

[left swift]

Minecraft but everytime you laugh you lose

[worn ember]

minecraft but its not

[left swift]

Ez millions views

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/WaG_eZF8vho

[austere ivy]

alright ended up deciding on xyz.tehbrian.mcmidi:server-api. mcmidi has its own github organization, and it's its own project. so ye, thanks for all of your input

[olive garden]

you sounded familiar brain, so I googled your own

this Flying City project sounds cool

reminds me of the infdev/whatever version available on minecraft.net

[left swift]

Stalker

[olive garden]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I adapted to the modern world and I google everything and everyone

[woven otter]

Flying what

[left swift]

Flying town

Sorry duck cant understand the c word anymore

[olive garden]

https://thefloating.city/

[worn ember]

amazing site

[woven otter]

shut up no mana. shouldn't you be looking for mana potions?

[olive garden]

shut up ded

[vivid ivy]

that's pretty cool

[left swift]

The c word gives duck bad nightmares

[worn ember]

minecraft but ur a boomer

[woven otter]

you want to hear a c word nomana?

[left swift]

Country

[woven otter]

cunt

you are one

😦

[left swift]

D:

Mods

No mods send help!

[vivid ivy]

why so mad?

[olive garden]

nomanassendhelp is a snitch

[woven otter]

^

we don't snitch here

[olive garden]

snitches get stitches

[left swift]

Snitches get burgers

[olive garden]

a burger would be nice

[left swift]

Yes

[vivid ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBg14op4JDI

[cunning raft]

lol that system

it ended up in people sending the cops dick pics

on a mass level

[olive garden]

at least that guy knows the "sayings" better than George Bush Junior

[left swift]

I member

[olive garden]

I guess that's another reason against a snitching society

promote snitching, get dick pics

[left swift]

Snitches get duck pics

[golden gust]

bahahahaaa, got I remember that one

It's like, fuck me

[left swift]

Woah cat

[golden gust]

I mean, it's crazy, we're actively turning into a society where turning on your neighbour is like, the thing to do

[olive garden]

you mean you haven't been there?

#easterneurope

[left swift]

Neighbors are fake news sell them out so your property value increases

[waxen schooner]

hello

what have I walked in to lol

[ashen cliff]

Ah yes, the captcha of shame: https://posili.me/i/2021-02-20_23-20-25.png

[mossy vessel]

Jaz sem robot

[magic river]

hcaptcha is just hard, recaptcha will scale based on how much it thinks you're a bot, to the point where it lies to you and says you failed even if you get it right as a soft ban

poor tor users

[void void]

well this 1.16.5 update isn't great

[wraith trail]

Compared to 1.16.4? It's literally the same thing

[austere ivy]

if I've got a group id of xyz.tehbrian.mcmidi:server-api, should the package be xyz.tehbrian.mcmidi.server.api or xyz.tehbrian.mcmidi.serverapi?

[knotty rose]

imo the second

as api is not a subpackage

[austere ivy]

exactly what I was thinking, thank you

[crystal compass]

bruh

when a daily bonus plugin puts 60% on server load when someone joins the server

t f

[spiral robin]

@cosmic raft dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbI7efznvj8

[limber knot]

You know what this channel needs?

Some ctrl-shift-command-M

[upper flicker]

is that how you did it?

[golden gust]

Yea

I still question how the fuck i managed that one

[upper flicker]

thats quite a combo to do with just your face

[golden gust]

See, now I'm questioning if I did it with my face, or if I woke up with some "fuck you" vendetta

[upper flicker]

not out of the realm of possibilities that

[crystal compass]

omg it was writing to the config 10 times & saving the config 2 times everytime someone logs on

jesus

[vernal moth]

Gotta be safe

[crystal compass]

literally dropping tps

like nuts

when people login lol

[vernal moth]

Could be worse

Could make sync http calls

To a dead server

[potent fossil]

[vernal moth]

Don't laugh, ppl do that...

[potent fossil]

Oh, I know.

[golden gust]

makes a http request to simples heart

[potent fossil]

418 I'm a teapot

[vernal moth]

I wonder if we should moderate hangar like crazy for shit like this

[golden gust]

I vote false

a teapot has more use than your heart

[potent fossil]

i vote write an AI that detects shitty code

also sorry i think i pinged you, this dumbfuqqing reply feature

[golden gust]

u did u fuq

[potent fossil]

:c

[upper flicker]

rude

[potent fossil]

i always forget to turn it off for cat so he can see the mf text w/o highlighting it

[left swift]

Simple only allows sftp connections to his teapot

[golden gust]

||that's funny coz i heard his butt was anonymous access||

[left swift]

The backdoor

[worn crest]

my 8 year old dedicated server cpu is really good, i think i stay with it 👀

[limber knot]

oh no, it's here https://i.moep.tv/goAMWR6s.png

[twin lagoon]

that's been out for a century

[limber knot]

not on the stable channels

[twin lagoon]

it's on whatever default channel is

[limber knot]

yeah, that's basically beta/testing

[twin lagoon]

i mean you might aswell use it

if you care about stability you wouldn't be using windows anyways

[limber knot]

it tends to break shit

[twin lagoon]

eh updates haven't broken anything for me in the past year or so

[upper flicker]

1909 broke some random drivers

but its bene fine enough

[limber knot]

I care about the system working like I want it to and this system has been setup over the last decade or so lol

[upper flicker]

I need to just test my work setup from fedora and call it good

[topaz mortar]

Just have nothing important on you windows installation. For example only Games.

[dense marsh]

is there anything like paper i can use for modding

[cunning raft]

forge?

fabric?

[dense marsh]

well yea

im currently trying forge but it keeps giving me an erorr that says i need JRE or JDK

so any help with that or not

[potent fossil]

o.o

you want to make a mod but...dont have JDK?

do you know java?

[dense marsh]

no not that

im trying to start a server through mc

[zealous wedge]

read a forge tutorial

[dense marsh]

thats not the problem i have all the stuff done

[potent fossil]

still need to install java lol

[zealous wedge]

no you don't

[dense marsh]

its just giving me an error that prevents me from getting past the point where i need to be

[zealous wedge]

unless you're lying about the error you're getting

[dense marsh]

nope

and i do have java installed

[potent fossil]

then what error are you getting...

exactly

[dense marsh]

Error: missing server' JVM at C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_281\bin\server\jvm.dll'.
Please install or use the JRE or JDK that contains these missing components.

[spare venture]

Reinstall java

Also you need the JDK, don’t you? Not just JRE

So install the JDK

[dense marsh]

yea ive reinstalled java 3 times

[zealous wedge]

maybe your computer isn't finding the right java environment? maybe you're downloading a version without the appropriate parts? who knows

[dense marsh]

stop being a philosopher

[zealous wedge]

lol

[potent fossil]

lol

[dense marsh]

head hurt like door stuck

[cunning raft]

yeah now i know what the problem is

[dense marsh]

?

[vestal jasper]

is your path fucked?

[tame lantern]

How am i suppose to know if a player is using an elytra, like flying with it

[vestal jasper]

look at them

[spiral robin]

.

Using ur eyes

[vestal jasper]

how the fuck else would you look at them ABER

someone else's eyes?

[spiral robin]

Well they don't seem coherent enough to figure that out

[vestal jasper]

true

[spiral robin]

Just helping

[potent fossil]

with my ass .

[spiral robin]

[vestal jasper]

i'll look at ur ass

[waxen panther]

hot

[spiral robin]

@waxen panther x

[waxen panther]

🥺

[vestal jasper]

oof imagine if I was confident enough to flirt with someone the way I flirt with simple

[potent fossil]

😏

[vestal jasper]

bro I can barely even start conversations with people I'm a long way off

[vestal jasper]

don't get too used to it my time isn't free

[true canyon]

How to get me ignoring a subreddit

[peak ginkgo]

PasteBot is the best thing to grace this Discord

🙏

[wraith trail]

Probably going to rewrite it at some point as there are some major design flaws

well, besides the fact that I suck at programming

[spare venture]

0.78 TPS hahaha

[cunning raft]

probably because you're using discordsrv

all my homies use essentials xd iscord

[spare venture]

wtf is that

[waxen panther]

essentials xd iscord

[cunning raft]

https://github.com/EssentialsX/Essentials/pull/3844

[spare venture]

nice

[waxen panther]

https://github.com/EssentialsX/Essentials/pull/3844/commits/2585607a49b63d9e79f41e6717b0c806e33c4f93

[tropic flame]

honestly?

This is cool

EssentialsXDiscord

[restive thicket]

If there is an EssentialsX XXMP, this only makes sense.

Honestly this is just telling that Discord is huge, at least in the gamer space.

Discord isn't going away anytime soon as a chat platform unless they messes up big time.

[cunning raft]

the goal was to provide a simple discord bridge that fit along side a plugin most server owners have already

and its not bloated to hell and back like *other discord plugin that shall not be named*

[grand pewter]

Anything beats ~redacted plugin~

[restive thicket]

Redacted plugin that ends in three capital letters and a V?

[cunning raft]

[restive thicket]

What's the situation there, if I might ask?

[grand pewter]

Have you ever seen the code

[cunning raft]

and/or config

[restive thicket]

I glanced at it, but not too hard.

[cunning raft]

don't look for too long

you'll get cataracts

[grand pewter]

Good choice, you don't want to stare

[vestal jasper]

it's like the sun but without any of the benefits, and all of the downsides /s

[grand pewter]

How's it going btw jroy I haven't had time to follow lately

[restive thicket]

I delved into the config and I can understand.

[cunning raft]

it's pending merge

[grand pewter]

Still stuck with the commands stuff or that done?

Oh neat

[vestal jasper]

But no the config is a giant mess, the code follows suit, and the dev is arrogant and easily irritable

:^)

[cunning raft]

needs testing, we're gonna announce a public build when we got proper versioning shit

[grand pewter]

Hey if it's ready I'll deploy it

[cunning raft]

but once we get testing down, and feedback on docs/configs, it's good

[grand pewter]

I got a semi large server I can test on

[cunning raft]

ill ping you in dev server

[grand pewter]

Sure

I'm already testing pl3xmap beta live too lol

Thankfully that hasn't crashed yet

[wraith trail]

impressive how many people have essentialsxmpp without using it

just north of 10k installs and 42 actually used

[cunning raft]

people literally just shove everything in the zip on their server

[spare venture]

[dull linden]

does anyone know if tcpshield works well in the uk xd

[waxen panther]

does anything work well in england

[cunning raft]

clearly not your timezone goto bed broc

[waxen panther]

make me

[zealous wedge]

tucks broc gently into bed

[waxen panther]

thank you

[mental meadow]

Good morning :3

I think I managed to fix my sleeping schedule

[warm anchor]

hello aurora

[mental meadow]

[cosmic raft]

lmao

[merry talon]

watermark on already stolen tweet

[untold copper]

rip house

[merry talon]

you know what needs to be fucking illegal

video players on the web with no volume control

[nocturne agate]

Poggers 2021 will be sick

[untold copper]

I sEe WhAt YoU dId ThErE

[limber knot]

Meh, random people get random viruses from birds, pigs, bats, etc all the time

The only concern is if those viruses also mutated for human to human transmission at the same time

[potent fossil]

and its an old story, already wrapped up

so its just a fledgling news site trying to catch clicks

looks like it got Dishit

[limber knot]

Right, the 7 people that got it had mild symptoms and there is zero sign it spread from human to human

someone should certainly be paying attention to any case where this happens but if you try to and that's not your job and your passion you'll go crazy

[vernal moth]

That someone is called WHO

At the global level

[woven otter]

who?

ok bad joke nvm

[vernal moth]

And at local level you (hopefully) got bunch of agencies or whatever you wanna call them that watch it

Like, every city here has one

They report to state, state reports to federal gov, gov reports to EU and WHO

[olive garden]

lmao duck

that was a good joke

[waxen panther]

wave

an owo member?

[hazy marlin]

Is there a plugin which from the hub I can teleport the player into a certain world in a server

[ashen cliff]

The same people that said CV-19 doesn't spread over air while having evidence of it spreading over the air?

[meager tusk]

Balkan air so polluted it dies mid air bro.

[ashen cliff]

Fact!

[void void]

lmfao

[vernal bone]

EssxDc

[hazy marlin]

How do I stop command blocks flooding the console?

[olive marlin]

Tried it today. On 10x10 it's almost no challenge. But 15x15 was painful, especially since you can't manually mark which "clusters" you've finished in app. Solving it on Paper would be much easier.

I guess I've written Paper so many times here, that my keyboard automatically capitalizes it xD

[olive marlin]

https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Command_Block#Message

There's gamerule that stops it from logging them.

Just check if it doesn't have other, unintended side-effects.

[hazy marlin]

Already tried the gamerules

doesn't fix it

[olive marlin]

The logAdminCommands one doesn't fix it?

[untold meadow]

logAdminCommands only logs commands that ops use to the console

[olive marlin]

Maybe try Console Spam Fixer if they have something recognizable in console. Or modify the logger config to drop them.

[hazy marlin]

Yeah Kezz recommended me to use a console spam fixer in another discord, but I was just wandering if there was a different way

[untold meadow]

tbh i think i saw someone complain about this a while ago

see if you can get one of those gamerule commands to stop console logging in vanilla

if you can, and it doesn't work on paper then open a bug report

[untold copper]

ok gamers 10th grade starts tomorrow

i had my big entrance exam today

3 hours, 2 papers

[mossy vessel]

🆗

[vernal moth]

Since we talking about random shit anyways

Adventure merge has to wait a bit ^^

[quasi valley]

the weather is so nice haha

just like, from -15°C 4 days ago to almost +20

[mossy vessel]

ikr, gr8

[waxen schooner]

afternoon all

[worn ember]

Lol today records already got broken cx

[vernal moth]

Wdym?

[worn ember]

Today is the warmest February day in like 100 years lol

[waxen schooner]

not sure if this question belongs here, but it's more of a general development question I guess
I'm currently working on a Minecraft server implementation, and I've got to the point where I'm doing the dreaded task of working with Anvil (the region file format, for those who aren't aware), and I can't decide how I want to do it lol

[vernal moth]

Ooh

Yeah, i quite enjoy it

[worn ember]

Pretty gucci

[vernal moth]

Nothing better than a sunny Sunday afternoon in my hammock and some nice deadmau5 tunes

[waxen schooner]

nice

[meager tusk]

The minecraft wiki should contain all of the anvil format implementation details

[waxen schooner]

ah yes, got it, thanks

[vernal moth]

Anvil isn't that bad, it's basically exactly the same as the network format nowadays

[waxen schooner]

yeah it's not bad, I'm just kinda struggling to decide if I should deserialise to objects, adventure NBT or do some other whacky text loading or something lol

[golden gust]

"whacky text loading" wat

[waxen schooner]

no clue

[golden gust]

the format on the disk is literally NBT

[waxen schooner]

I swear it has some sort of header and some other stuff with it

[golden gust]

if you wanna skip that and try to go direct objects, I mean, you can, but, like, it's literally NBT on the disk

Well, yes, which is documented on the wiki

[meager tusk]

^

[golden gust]

all of this stuff is documented on the wiki

all of this stuff is literally sitting in the servers decomp folder for cross reference

[waxen schooner]

fair point

[golden gust]

ofc, you lose any hopes of screaming that you're cleanroom if you do that, but, if you even touched the servers code before you lost that

[waxen schooner]

cleanroom?

[vernal moth]

Look at mojang to learn how not to do it 😂

[waxen schooner]

yeah I couldn't've done half of this without Wiki + deobfuscated server + mcdevs on IRC lol

[golden gust]

Oh, then, cleanroom is irrelevant anyways

[waxen panther]

wtf mini

you're always telling us to think positively of mojang and love them 😠

[waxen schooner]

lol

I can agree with mini, Mojang's code is an example of what not to do

[worn ember]

Is this the point where someone goes "yes java bad"

[waxen schooner]

if you looked at it, you'd understand what I mean

[waxen panther]

i am excited to see your implementation with perfect api

[waxen schooner]

"perfect API"

[waxen panther]

yes

[minor badge]

smh my head cat merges a PR just as I rebased onto master

[waxen schooner]

I hardly even have a working server yet

[waxen panther]

proximyst moment

[waxen schooner]

big oof

[wide chasm]

I mean, considering the age of the code base, it's understandable not everything is as well written as it could've been, but they don't always seem to improve it either

[worn ember]

Cat merging prs?

You must be very lucky proxi

[waxen schooner]

the problem with the code is just that it's about a decade old now, and it's just been built on to and built on to so many times that it's just ridiculous by now, and it works fine so it's not really worth their time to rewrite it

[meager tusk]

I have Implementation with Perfect api

.

[worn ember]

@wide chasm would you rewrite everything at your job if someone else did a poor job. I doubt it

[twin lagoon]

idriz

[meager tusk]

BalkanPaper

Michael ❤️

[waxen panther]

balkanpaper

[golden gust]

I'm not feeling well so only probs that one

I got no idea

[worn ember]

Smh cat

[golden gust]

I've got a few on the list that I wanna try and merge soon, but, yea

#FuckProxi

[waxen schooner]

the API is gonna be the hardest I think, since it's gonna require quite a lot of @JvmNames lol

to not trigger Java people

[golden gust]

Wait, no, she'd probs like that... erm...

[viral hornet]

wtf

[golden gust]

Screw you pro... no... eat shi.... eerrrrr....

[wide chasm]

It's not really about improving the entire code base all at once, that's too time consuming, but it would be nice if they could improve it in small steps.

[limber knot]

what unholy words did I just hear?

[worn ember]

I suppose

[waxen schooner]

kinda what they've been trying to do

[worn ember]

Daddy notch should've just been a java god smh

[waxen schooner]

lol

[olive garden]

relevant article: https://technology.riotgames.com/news/taxonomy-tech-debt

and they kind of already rewrote everything with bedrock edition :)

[topaz mortar]

I have two C++ programmer friends who say that every time.

[worn ember]

Whole of lol is tech debt

[waxen schooner]

I mean, doesn't pretty much all code start off as messy horrible crap that then gets built on over time? isn't that how just about everyone codes?

[olive garden]

shut up ded you are just a dota fanboy

[quasi valley]

no

[worn ember]

I played lol too

[olive garden]

you are stupid

[worn ember]

Bruh

Stupid discord

[golden gust]

Only probs which start out that crap and stay that crap are people who write crap code

[olive garden]

you can't even click buttons ded

[wide chasm]

You learn more as you go, so there will be some parts that are not as great as could've been at the start, but generally code at the start is relatively good

[limber knot]

heh

[waxen schooner]

I'm not saying your code stays crap, but your code mostly starts out crap

[golden gust]

Like, yea, you might have a tech demo or something to toy with something but you're generally gonna flash it out and refactor it

Not really

[waxen panther]

[golden gust]

I mean, if you're a new programmer, yea, sure

[viral hornet]

omg brocc haha

[waxen panther]

[golden gust]

but, new project, no, keep it clean from the start

[viral hornet]

you continue to provide the goods

[waxen panther]

[limber knot]

Although I doubt notch could have forseen the scope of minecraft today

[waxen schooner]

I generally do that because I haven't a clue what I want to write before I write it lol

I just kinda make it up as I go along

[golden gust]

Doesn't make it a general thing

[meager tusk]

Sounds like a problem for the next guy

😴

[golden gust]

just makes your way of programming shit

[waxen schooner]

fair

[quasi valley]

you know, there's people that actually do proper software engineering

[waxen panther]

idriz pinged cat

thats a ban

easy clap boys

[quasi valley]

not just hobby programming

[waxen schooner]

since when did you know what you were going to write before writing it though

[meager tusk]

🏃‍♂️

[golden gust]

tech debt is what boils into place when the ecosystem moves forward or you didn't plan forward enough

You design it

[quasi valley]

since you start planning things?

[golden gust]

You have the general systems architecture in mind before you start

[viral hornet]

Just draw it on paper

[waxen schooner]

I mean, I do use a bit of good old pen and paper sometimes to write things down, but that's about as far as my planning expertise goes lol

[golden gust]

some people are better at visualising that stuff better than others, a lot of it's experience, but, proper design saves your ass when it comes to proper code

[limber knot]

Since when do you do that? I always yolo my things and refractor it 10 times over a week before giving up

[meager tusk]

[golden gust]

ur jus bad

[untold meadow]

the best code ive ever done has come with lots of planning tbh

not to say you can't write good code without it

[meager tusk]

quite the opposite for me

[untold meadow]

but it helps

[golden gust]

I'm generally good at splitting stuff up into smaller modules

[meager tusk]

i've written the best stuff when i've just winged it

[untold meadow]

then ur shit at planning

[meager tusk]

and still use some of those libraries today

[untold meadow]

xoxo

[golden gust]

and so, I just basically go from there, never really had to do any massive rewrites outside of "Well, maybe it'd be better if I abstracted this entire system moooore"

(and, well, that was a java app I was converting to kotlin)

[waxen schooner]

oh no... not @Jvm annotations xD

[worn ember]

the bane of my existence

[waxen panther]

what do you need jvm name annotations for? i think most people are fine with the record-style naming scheme now

[waxen schooner]

without @JvmName, calling Kotlin code from Java is a mess lol

[untold meadow]

doesn't have to be lmao

[worn ember]

just dont use kotlin

[golden gust]

calling kotlin code from java

erm

[quasi valley]

big erm

[golden gust]

Design API in java if you really wanna make it pretty for java?

[waxen schooner]

yeah but then it's horrible for Kotlin

[topaz mortar]

Yeah cat refactoring stuff to make it multiplatform compatible is a thing for a partly rewrite.

[worn ember]

i can live with that

[waxen schooner]

either way, you end up with a catch 22

if you write it in Kotlin though, you can make it work

[golden gust]

I mean, you screw one ecosystem over either way

[untold meadow]

i mean the biggest java project i worked on uses two massive kotlin libraries and afaicr they don't use any jvm annotations

[waxen schooner]

I mean, OkHttp did

they rewrote in Kotlin and that still works fine from both

it's better for Kotlin users, since they can use extension functions and other Kotlin stuff, but it also works for Java, which can just use the old Java style utility methods

[topaz mortar]

In the beginning they had problems after converting it to Kotlin.

[waxen schooner]

I think they've solved those now though

or at least, made compromises that work for both

[topaz mortar]

Yeah but it took some minor versions.

[worn ember]

is it jetbrains who develops kotlin?

[golden gust]

yes

[untold meadow]

yis

[worn ember]

switches to eclipse

[golden gust]

always thought you were brain dead

[worn ember]

lmao

at least i can merge more than 2prs a day

[topaz mortar]

Ded is brain ded

[worn ember]

(if i had any)

[golden gust]

Wow

[untold meadow]

gotta get that eclipse xtend support

[golden gust]

mocking the afllicted

You know there are laws against that right?

you fuck

[worn ember]

laws? The only laws i follow are the ones from daddy Newton

[woven otter]

Oh, then, cleanroom is irrelevant anyways
can they prove it tho. basically if you have touched nms nothing you can't make a cleanroom server implementation?

[golden gust]

general notation of "clean room" is that you weren't exposed to the dirt

[worn ember]

not exposed to dirt
minecraft

[golden gust]

Like, I mean, can you still make a cleanroom system? that's a legal issue, and a very grey one

[waxen panther]

hahahhahha its funny because the funny block game has a dirt block

XD

[worn ember]

yes

[golden gust]

broc

go yettus deletus

[worn ember]

i'm proud you got the joke

[waxen panther]

ded is just so funny

[worn ember]

ok mr passive agressive

go suck on a soggy noodle

[waxen panther]

i would love to

[worn ember]

has your anime pillow started calling you oni chan yet?

[topaz mortar]

Hopperfully the performance increases with the additional changes to the fix.

[worn ember]

did they have to rewrite the chunk system for the negative y values?

[topaz mortar]

They started in 1.15 with it I assume

[worn ember]

fair

[woven otter]

that's a legal issue, and a very grey one
isn't that like every public minecraft project. one big grey legal issue

[golden gust]

not entirely

I mean, some projects take more legal avenues like runtime modification

mojang allows mods, so, it's not reaaaaallly an issue for forge, etc

biggest caveat we have is the whole patch file thing

[limber knot]

Doesn't forge also do that?

Or does forge handle it differently?

[minor badge]

forge does mixins

[golden gust]

oh, wait, yea, they got MCP, so, they do the same thing, but, they're not at whims of the whole DMCA drama

[limber knot]

Forge is built on mixins? Didn't know that

[golden gust]

Forge has patches

they also do use some mixins too afaik

[worn ember]

windows makes some pretty good mountain art

[golden gust]

they sorta take the same route as CB/Bukkit in a sense

ah, no mixins in the real project itself, maybe just FML that does that, buuut didn't they get rid of fml?

[worn ember]

i think they did

wasnt that part of the 1.13 rewrite

[golden gust]

Giiiithuuub

whaaaaat

[limber knot]

Fabric uses Mixins as far as I know

[waxen schooner]

I love some of those descriptions haha

JarSplitter - "splits a jar"

nah no shit sherlock

NexusScripts - "scripts for nexus"

lol

[worn ember]

lmao just found this gem in my photoshop folder

[waxen schooner]

[limber knot]

https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/tree/1.16.x/patches/ they do patches It appears so

[waxen schooner]

it is a weird legal grey area

[golden gust]

yea, forge itself just uses patches

[hazy marlin]

Anyone know how to get rid of a resource pack when moving across servers?

[golden gust]

I mean, mojang doesn't care about mods and both projects have had discussions with mojang before

send an empty resource pack

[hazy marlin]

Ok

[worn ember]

reee, stupid chrome and their restrictions

[golden gust]

git fukt

[limber knot]

how does google meet do it?

[golden gust]

it's google

[vernal moth]

Reeee, stupid websites doing auto play audio

[golden gust]

how do you think they bypass stuff?

[worn ember]

its literally an audio visualizer, so it would suck if it didnt play anything

[waxen schooner]

hard coding

[limber knot]

pretty sure it only blocks auto-play if it's not a video with controls or something? not sure

[hazy marlin]

With a plugin?

[vernal moth]

That link has all the info ^^

[limber knot]

I remember there being some workaround, otherwise youtube wouldn't work lol

[golden gust]

I mean, if you're using a plugin to deal with resourcepacks, yea, sure

[waxen schooner]

<audio>?

[worn ember]

well yt is owned by google so they can just exempt it

[waxen schooner]

I've seen a site that can autoplay audio with that tag

[vernal moth]

That's not how chrome is managed ded

[limber knot]

pretty sure they didn't do that

[worn ember]

but i dont think audio and video are treated the same

[limber knot]

they just burry features deep into their code, don't document it but use it on their websites

[waxen schooner]

surely that means you could technically find that and use that though

[limber knot]

yes, that's my point

[worn ember]

well tbh, they never reload the page, so it still has performed and action before playing (clicking a video)

[waxen schooner]

https://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_audio_autoplay.asp

[worn ember]

well maybe not if you go to the direct link

idk

i dont use the audio tag tho, i use js to create audio contexts to read the datastream

[waxen schooner]

ah right

[worn ember]

ik it worked a few years ago

its an old project i found

[waxen schooner]

couldn't you do some hacks.exe and inject that tag into the HTML? lol

[limber knot]

well yeah, they blocked it

[worn ember]

that still doesnt fix anything

[waxen schooner]

oh also, btw, since when was YouTube a poorly made SPA?

[worn ember]

has been for a long tme now

[limber knot]

oof, yeah, my radio player site doesn't autoplay anymore

[waxen schooner]

what I mean by a poorly made SPA is the fact that the back button doesn't work how it should

[limber knot]

wtf

let's see if I can hack the controls via js 👀

[worn ember]

you need to create the context after someone does an action for some reason

so even if you create the context and only play when the user does it

it doesnt let you

ig its to prevent hacks that bypass it lol

thats so annoying tho

this whole thing is down the shitter thanks to chrome lmao

[limber knot]

Just add a big banner that says "Your browser isn't supported, please use Internet Explorer 7 instead"

[worn ember]

lmao

lemme see if it works in edge

[merry talon]

jquery

[worn ember]

works fine on edge

[vernal moth]

Edge is just chrome tho?

[worn ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vernal moth]

Or are you using trident edge?

[worn ember]

guess not

no regular edge

the image clicking still doesnt work tho

[vernal moth]

What version

[limber knot]

I mean, edge has to ponder to people that need IE code to work

runs

[vernal moth]

Edges IE integration is more like an iframe

It works surprisingly good tho

[worn ember]

not the latest apparently

[vernal moth]

Man that's old

[limber knot]

lol