#general | PaperMC | Page 1323

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 10:04 AM

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it's as nice and simple as your client is

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Discord is more convenient though

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until someone spams your bouncer when you're offline to clear the backlog :P

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 10:04 AM

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yeah that's because discord actually has some features

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

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hi kneny

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

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or worse yet, you get one of those script kiddies that DDoSes you

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

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hello oskar

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

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A lot of larger IRC networks let you mask your IP

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

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my ip changes every 5 seconds because ISP got bored or something

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

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xD

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

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its a bit annoying lol

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

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I remember Tom Scott saying how IRC was the home for the script kiddie type in his video on Computerphile about DoS attacks lol

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:06 AM

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now i can spam everyone with meowheart

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nice

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:06 AM

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My IP changes a lot, and it's a very over-subscribed CGNAT setup - so every so often I'll have a day where I'm IP banned from a lot of services

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:06 AM

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how did you get nitro snoopa

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:06 AM

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I got Windscribe premium so I'm good lol

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gl hitting me off

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I can just switch IP at the click of a button

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:06 AM

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visual egret how did you get nitro snoopa

I won a giveaway XD

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:07 AM

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fun

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:07 AM

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jk i clicked this shady link to get free nitro it only told me to run this .bat

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it was ez

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:07 AM

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I've had this Windscribe subscription until my IP last got leaked about a month ago and I got DDoSed

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and that was through Discord btw

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:07 AM

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untold copper jk i clicked this shady link to get free nitro it only told me to run this .bat

👀

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:08 AM

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I think rule #1 when using Linux is to not run dodgy bash scripts

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:08 AM

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im not using linux

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:08 AM

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always check the script before running it

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 10:08 AM

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that's like rule #1 in any device

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just replace script with software/executable

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:08 AM

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i was jk smh

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:08 AM

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unless you're on Windows

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:08 AM

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Anyways

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:08 AM

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in which case, download and run is the meta

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:09 AM

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VCS my entire computer ez

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:09 AM

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if you're on Linux, you should only really be using a package manager for like 99% of things

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:09 AM

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apt is lord

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so is doas

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:10 AM

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gotta be careful with user submitted stuff, like the AUR for Arch, but anything from the Arch official repo is generally fine

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only problem with Arch is that it's very prone to breaking, but that's another story entirely

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:11 AM

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woo

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 10:11 AM

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wee

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:11 AM

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blender project worked out

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:11 AM

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can't tell if you made a render or a milkshake

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:11 AM

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also, imagine choosing to talk in here instead of doing the entire list of things you have to do lol

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:11 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/ZaAIPNv.png

Imgur

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:11 AM

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wat dis

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sphere

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:12 AM

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Not a sphere

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A simple plane

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:12 AM

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its actually a triangle smh

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:12 AM

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lol

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I got so much I gotta do lol

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school, personal projects, head dev, commissions

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nightmare

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:13 AM

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i want to cry

📎 unknown.png

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:13 AM

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it is half term next week though

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:13 AM

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"exciting"

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and "art" dont go into the same sentence well

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:13 AM

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the grammar police have entered the building

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"powerpoing"

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that was the first thing that caught my eye

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currently kinda working on https://github.com/knightzmc/MineKraft

GitHub

knightzmc/MineKraft

A fast, lightweight Minecraft server written in Kotlin - knightzmc/MineKraft

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trying to find a way to retrieve a list of files in a directory inside the classpath though

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since I need the list of files in each of the tag dirs so I can read their names and contents and deserialise them to objects

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 10:16 AM

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ok

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😀

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:17 AM

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if anyone has any idea how to read a list of files in a dir inside of classpath, feel free to share :)

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 10:17 AM

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😀

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:19 AM

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📎 1nYBhehbAb3qqVskf8enovg.png

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:20 AM

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or maybe it's NMS time lol

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:20 AM

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nms looks scary

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i always try not to touch it

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:20 AM

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got a deobfuscated version of Minecraft server on my script kiddie Kali VM lol

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:20 AM

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NMS and the Java classpath are entirely unrelated?

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 10:20 AM

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a meeting of the minds

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:20 AM

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(using mappings)

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I wanna see how the Notchian server does it Me

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:21 AM

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If you're trying to use the Bukkit API to access the classpath, that's probably where your issue is lol

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Ah fair

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:21 AM

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MineKraft (don't question the name please, BM's already said he wants to change it) is a Minecraft server implementation from scratch in Kotlin

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got up to tags and that's about it lol

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Pakkit is like my saviour though

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and custom log4j configs

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 10:22 AM

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limber knot got up to tags and that's about it lol

Just like 99% of "minecraft server from scratch" projects.

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:23 AM

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oh I'm going to make it work though

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I'm committed now

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I won't stop until this works

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 10:24 AM

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oh also, @vernal moth, tags not hard coded my backside xD

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:24 AM

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that's a sentence

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:24 AM

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they are hard coded

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:24 AM

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the gear monster

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visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:25 AM

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wat is that snoopa

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:25 AM

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net.minecraft.data.tags

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:25 AM

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the gear monster

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 10:25 AM

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Do something useful with your life. Contribute to projects that might actually be used, like typewrite.rs
runs

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:25 AM

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you talking to me?

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:25 AM

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visual egret wat is that snoopa

its an arrangement of gears so that i can reach 256 rpm

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:25 AM

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https://tenor.com/bej1s.gif

Tenor

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:25 AM

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Tags are loaded via the vanilla datapack

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And can be extended further

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 10:25 AM

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waxen schooner you talking to me?

Yes, though jokingly :P

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:25 AM

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they seem to be hard coded

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https://pastebin.com/vDSnfEcp

Pastebin

@Override protected void addTags() { this.tag(BlockTa...

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:27 AM

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i think i made the most lightweight anti elytra plugin

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/kill <player> if they have elytra thinksmart

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:27 AM

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Don't you mean /ban 👀

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:27 AM

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KEKW

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:27 AM

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oh yeah oops wrong command

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 10:28 AM

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sofuckingfunny

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:28 AM

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well 256 RPM is the max i can go

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:28 AM

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even easier:

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/stop

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:28 AM

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depends on: essentialsx, advancedban, worldedit, worldguard, towny

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 10:28 AM

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Just always cancel PlayerJoinEvent

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:28 AM

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and not worry about anything again

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:29 AM

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the registry (surprisingly) isn't hard coded, but the tags are

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:29 AM

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how 2 get infinite playerz:

@EventHandler
public void onQuit(PlayerQuitEvent event) {
    event.setCancelled(true)
}
``` ez

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:29 AM

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no bombardy

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that file is used for generating the JSON file

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nothing more

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:29 AM

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which file? net.minecraft.data.tags?

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:30 AM

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mhm

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:30 AM

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or the files under that

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where are tags loaded then?

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:30 AM

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not there :-)

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:30 AM

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nah no shit sherlock xD

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any idea what the notchian server calls the tags packet?

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nvm, I dum dum

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net.minecraft.network.protocol.game.ClientboundUpdateTagsPacket

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:32 AM

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mhm

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:32 AM

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TagContainer, here we are

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net.minecraft.tags

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😐

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 10:32 AM

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do we need thought by thought messages

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:32 AM

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shut

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 10:33 AM

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pepeAgony

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:33 AM

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where's all the JSON that it generates then btw?

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or does it not contain JSON files in here

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:33 AM

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wrong server smh

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:33 AM

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"in here"

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:33 AM

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in the JAR

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:34 AM

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they're in the jar

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in a very obvious spot

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:34 AM

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cosmic raft "in here"

tHaTs WhAt ShE saId

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 10:34 AM

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..

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:34 AM

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try, you know, searching

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:34 AM

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lol that was bad

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:35 AM

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okay yeah that makes sense, ofc CFR isn't gonna decompile JSON files ffs

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I dum dum

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sorry bout dis

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I obviously need to learn how to read

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nvm, it's data

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:39 AM

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simple new pfp 🤔

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:39 AM

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nice

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also, why would you check if a string is made up of [_-a-z0-9/.] by looping through each character instead of using a regex? is there any performance benefit there?

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Quite possibly

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While that regex wouldn't loop back, it still needs compiling etc

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And it has the overhead of the state machine

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:42 AM

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true

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wonder if I'll find any enterprise naming™️ in here

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DefaultUncaughtExceptionHandlerWithName and there we have it

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:43 AM

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The mappings used for NMS are not the official Mojang mappings

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They were made by the Bukkit team, and extended by md_5

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:43 AM

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yeah I'm looking at the official Notchian server with ProGuard mappings applied

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probably why it's a bit whack in places

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:44 AM

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Notchian isn't the right word for it, but sure

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:44 AM

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that's what they call it on wiki.vg lol

topaz mortar Feb 12, 2021, 10:46 AM

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BomBardy look into paperweight to get Mojang Mappings.

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:46 AM

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paperweight?

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I just used some rando tool I found on the internet to deobfuscate using the ProGuard obfuscation mappings officially provided by Mojang and then used CFR to decompile the deobfuscated JAR

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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I'd like to say

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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deobfuscated

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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My kitty is curled up against my chest purring away

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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nice

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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awa

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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aw

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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cuddlekitty

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 10:48 AM

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cosmic raft My kitty is curled up against my chest purring away

pic

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:49 AM

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^

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:49 AM

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cannot

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phone is not near me

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:49 AM

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oof

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:49 AM

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and i will not disrupt her

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 10:49 AM

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good

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this is the way.

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 10:49 AM

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kashike hates us

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PepeHands

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 10:49 AM

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Disappointed, but understandable.

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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no

topaz mortar Feb 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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BomBardy paperweight is a tool that uses Mojang Mappings to convert the whole paper server or at least the NMS part into Mojang mappings based stuff.

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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ah okay

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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but do you really want me to disrupt my purring cuddly kitty

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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ur right

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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meow

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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yeah I'm not using Paper, I'm just after stuff from vanilla @topaz mortar

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also, someone please explain to me why client resources exist in the server lol

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PackType.CLIENT_RESOURCES

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:51 AM

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To send to the client?

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Or because it's a shared enum?

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:51 AM

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ffs why didn't I think of that lol

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also, don't you just love following the rabbit trail of method calls in larger projects sometimes

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:53 AM

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is familiar with the vanilla codebase :p

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:53 AM

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TagLoader gets all ResourceLocation objects using resourceManager.listResources, and ResourceManager is an interface which is implemented in SimpleReloadableResourceManager and FallbackResourceManager, and listResources in the simple one calls fallback which then calls PackResources#getResources, which finally gives me the code I was looking for

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actually no, PackResources is implemented in FolderPackResources, which gives me what I want

wooden crow Feb 12, 2021, 10:54 AM

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paper website lag?

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:54 AM

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oh yeah, and getResources then calls listResources haha

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:54 AM

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wooden crow paper website lag?

no?

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Just FYI, usually when people write a brand new piece of server software - they specifically don't look at the MC source code 🙂

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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yeah I just wanted to see how it gets a list of files from a directory lol

sharp sentinel Feb 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Basing your decisions on the MC source code makes it not "clean" from a copyright perspective etc

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Not that it really matters

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But like in general, it's a good practice to follow

wooden crow Feb 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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i was confused my downlaod speed just 10 kb lmao

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:56 AM

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sharp sentinel But like in general, it's a good practice to follow

yeah most of what I've wrote so far I haven't looked at MC source for

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but I just wondered how it got a list of files from a directory inside of classpath

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:56 AM

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"most"

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:56 AM

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fine, all

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 10:57 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/im-not-buying-it-smh-no-nope-not-buying-it-gif-9756361

Tenor

don't believe it

▶ Play video

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:58 AM

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actually Stack Overflow is my best friend

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for once, putting "Kotlin" in the search query actually got me an answer

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 10:58 AM

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in most cases, java or even clojure answers are sufficient too

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 10:59 AM

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yeah

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fun getResourceFiles(path: String) = getResourceAsStream(path).use {
    return if (it == null) emptyList()
    else BufferedReader(InputStreamReader(it)).readLines()
}

private fun getResourceAsStream(resource: String): InputStream? =
    Thread.currentThread().contextClassLoader.getResourceAsStream(resource)
        ?: resource::class.java.getResourceAsStream(resource)
```seems to give me this

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that looks like it'll work

coarse lily Feb 12, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Should this be in #paper-dev?

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 11:02 AM

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shouldn't this be your personal diary?

coarse lily Feb 12, 2021, 11:02 AM

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I guess it's not really paper dev.

viral hornet Feb 12, 2021, 11:04 AM

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#bombardygamerdev ?

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:04 AM

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KEKW

coarse lily Feb 12, 2021, 11:05 AM

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But yeah maybe you should make a Discord guild with a dev channel or something and compose your thoughts there.

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:05 AM

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#custom-minecraft-servers-but-paper-is-better-download-paper-paper-best-server

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no bias

vagrant ice Feb 12, 2021, 11:08 AM

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Is there any way to change this text?

📎 2fd9e112be67fbe8265424c9023debb9.png

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:09 AM

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coarse lily But yeah maybe you should make a Discord guild with a dev channel or something a...

maybe I should go back to HelpChat then lol

coarse lily Feb 12, 2021, 11:09 AM

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shrug

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:09 AM

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vagrant ice Is there any way to change this text?

hook into serverping

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and change server brand iirc

coarse lily Feb 12, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Just seems like you're kind of stream-of-consciousness typing without really looking for feedback or interacting with other folks.

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Seems like that should be more of an opt-in thing for your own guild or something.

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 11:11 AM

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The gear monster is done :D

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its an automatic compactor station

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:12 AM

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ooh

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nice

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:13 AM

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coarse lily Just seems like you're kind of stream-of-consciousness typing without really loo...

sounds about right

placid spear Feb 12, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Paper newbie here, was taking a look at bStats and noticed Spigot has a greater usage share. Just curious if anyone knows why (is it only because Spigot releases updates faster)?

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:33 AM

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um, no

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if you look at the newest version using minidiggers tool

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its actually ~60% on newer versions

ashen cliff Feb 12, 2021, 11:34 AM

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https://kennytv.eu/secretgraph/

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:35 AM

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or use what krusic sent, didnt know about that

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:35 AM

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that's because it's secret wesmart

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well, not any more

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:35 AM

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stoinks

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ashen cliff Feb 12, 2021, 11:35 AM

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BStats died that day.

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Very epic.

placid spear Feb 12, 2021, 11:36 AM

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ashen cliff https://kennytv.eu/secretgraph/

Very helpful. I see, prior to 1.13 Spigot has the greatest share. 1.13 and later Paper wins.

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Thanks for schooling me. 🙂

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:36 AM

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"Spoogot" KEKW

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:36 AM

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funky chart

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bullet was shot into stats

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waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:37 AM

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15/10/2020

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what happened then?

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:37 AM

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bstats died

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as krusic mentioned

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:37 AM

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ah

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top tip: that won't get you any faster support

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:39 AM

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it might though

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:39 AM

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just frustrates me when people do that

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:39 AM

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same

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:39 AM

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don't get why people can't just be patient and wait for support

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:39 AM

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maybe they are in a rush

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i mean, i surely was this morning, i gotta release a server by 4pm today

ashen cliff Feb 12, 2021, 11:40 AM

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Woah.
I'm rich again: https://posili.me/i/2021-02-12_12-40-01.png

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Thanks eBay. Didn't even ask for a refund tho.

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:40 AM

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krusic where do you live

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:40 AM

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lol

ashen cliff Feb 12, 2021, 11:40 AM

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🇸🇮.

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 11:41 AM

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11eur is a lot of money

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i could buy 1 at least domain with that

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:41 AM

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maybe for your poor ass xD

ashen cliff Feb 12, 2021, 11:41 AM

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It's not. But it's my money. kekwhyper

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 11:41 AM

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I'm joking lol

peak ginkgo Feb 12, 2021, 12:03 PM

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fucks going on here

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https://u.dejay.dev/😶🌚🛵.png

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 12:03 PM

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kennylove

peak ginkgo Feb 12, 2021, 12:03 PM

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and under it

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why

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 12:03 PM

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knenys language

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its probably something

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 12:05 PM

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@quasi valley tacoplead

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 12:06 PM

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BoneZone

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 12:06 PM

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oh i can do this now

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 12:06 PM

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art that only some browsers display correctly hahaha

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 12:06 PM

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@twin lagoon tacoplead

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 12:06 PM

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no

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 12:06 PM

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SadCat

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run

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 12:07 PM

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You don't encode the utf-8 properly i guess kenny

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 12:08 PM

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oml I just can't even

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 12:08 PM

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yeah it's some horribly thrown together site lol

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 12:08 PM

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why is reading a list of files in a directory from classpath so difficult

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:08 PM

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My phone corrects Kneny to Kenny. Smh dum phone

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 12:09 PM

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You didn't train it enough then

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:09 PM

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Guess not

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 12:10 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20210212-131004.png

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 12:10 PM

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lol

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 12:11 PM

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ree

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my ear

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is waterlogged

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 12:12 PM

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mojang adds snoopa waterlogged ear

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wen

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 12:13 PM

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📎 unknown.png

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:13 PM

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a meeting of the minds

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the greatest minds in the papermc community

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 12:14 PM

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brocc bluely was being mean to me

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 12:14 PM

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👀

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hi brocc

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:14 PM

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❤️

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:14 PM

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good

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bluely is a chad

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:14 PM

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no u

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COOLFLOOSHDANCE

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 12:14 PM

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larreeeeh

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:14 PM

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floosh ?

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:15 PM

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When can I be recognized as a vegtal

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:15 PM

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proximyst my best friend

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sorry larry but the vegetable role has the perms of core team

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 12:15 PM

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broccolai best friend in the multiverse ?

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:15 PM

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proximyst bestest friend even in deus ? 😳

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 12:15 PM

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woa............

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 12:15 PM

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@visual egret is my best friend

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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hi kneny

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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cring ?

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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hello

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i would like vegetal recognition

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i am a cucumber

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i have my citizenship

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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Do you know that larry is a swear word in german?

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Well, not swear word, a mild insult

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:17 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/cILddPm.png

Imgur

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:17 PM

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wh

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:17 PM

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vernal moth Do you know that larry is a swear word in german?

you've told me hehehahaha

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at least i believe you have, some german person has

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but i think you

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mini

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:17 PM

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mini is the only funny german here

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and kneny

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 12:17 PM

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me

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funny

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 12:17 PM

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@swift root laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarry

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:17 PM

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yea

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 12:17 PM

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pleadingCry

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 12:18 PM

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germany

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:18 PM

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😳

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 12:18 PM

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waxen panther and kneny

flooooosh

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:18 PM

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flooooosh

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/l0KapoW.png

Imgur

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proof

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I am a vegetabele

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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Yeah but you name isn't Larry the Cucumber

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it's Larry

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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yes it is

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i am larry

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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k change ur discord name

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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larry ur not a cucumber

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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for 2 months

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and then i'll consider it

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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being a cucumber is part of my identity not my name

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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ask did i?

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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yes

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shut

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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peeop weird

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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ive presented my citizenship

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https://i.imgur.com/l0KapoW.png

Imgur

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accept me for what i am

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:20 PM

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make me

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 12:20 PM

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floosh?

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:20 PM

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floooooosh

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 12:20 PM

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flooshed

void void Feb 12, 2021, 12:23 PM

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kekwhyper

📎 AzK5Eq.png

ashen cliff Feb 12, 2021, 12:24 PM

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Another reason I can hate the new snapshot: https://posili.me/i/2021-02-12_13-24-16.png?DiscordComeOn

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 12:25 PM

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is that

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comic sans

ashen cliff Feb 12, 2021, 12:25 PM

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It is.

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But the important issue is the frame pacing.

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:28 PM

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@minor badge project for 30$ USB switch for monitor kvm has been rewritten in Rust!
https://github.com/haimgel/display-switch/

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:29 PM

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peepoSmile

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:29 PM

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It's so cool. Now I need to replace my 10± years old monitors with ones that have hdmi that supports it xD

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:30 PM

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me when no link to the switch

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i need that lol

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well, "need"

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would be very nice for my work laptop + desktop to have same monitors with a switch

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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Yeah, that's what I want.

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Got tired of reconnecting like 6 cables twice every day for a year now.

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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lmao same

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i now work from couch

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its fine cause IPS 4K monitor on it, but still would be nice w two monitors

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 12:34 PM

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you all have 4K smh

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my gpu can't handle 4k XD

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:35 PM

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Mhm. I remember when I made a monitor setup in bed. Was quite nice working directly from bed for like a month lol

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I have VGA only 10 years old monitor

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:35 PM

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My couch is a lot softer than bed

untold copper Feb 12, 2021, 12:35 PM

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VGA > All modern display interfaces

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:35 PM

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Apparently programmers with graphical experience are quite attractive haha. I've already had 3 people offer me a workplace for my internship next year

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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I should move to bed but I'm scared the dark room will make me sleepy

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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But want to get a lot nicer monitors when I move, and throw out current ones.

void void Feb 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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VGA rackmount kvms are sick

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 12:37 PM

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bloodstone when are you moving to netherlands

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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I have a 1440p one and a 1080p one

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I wanna get another 1440p and sell the 1080p one

void void Feb 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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dual 1440 is 👌

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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i've got 1440p & 1080p too

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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Perhaps on next payroll, so in a week or so

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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i still want a miniled or oled 1440p / 2160p

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but expensive and way too big

void void Feb 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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i got these TNs for around 200 usd

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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Michale give me time to look whether I prefer Netherlands or Sweden :P

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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My main problem with 1080p and 1440p is how huge the text is on one, and how small it is on the other

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 12:39 PM

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olive marlin Michale give me time to look whether I prefer Netherlands or Sweden :P

sweden has smelly people

void void Feb 12, 2021, 12:39 PM

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i felt that too, but after a while 1080 just looks massive and 1440 looks normal

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mainly because i put my only 1080 off to the side and I only ever use it for outlook

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:42 PM

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olive marlin Michale give me time to look whether I prefer Netherlands or Sweden :P

think about your future tho, if the sea level rises a few meter there wont be any netherlands left

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 12:43 PM

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look we'll think of something

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suck up the ocean like kirby and then spew it out onto belgium

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:44 PM

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that sounds very inefficient as it'll flow back to the low part thats the netherlands anyway

void void Feb 12, 2021, 12:44 PM

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but if the netherlands gets soggy it'll smell too

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no winning here

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:44 PM

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rotten cheese smell

void void Feb 12, 2021, 12:44 PM

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solution: greenland

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:45 PM

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is it me or did they really pull an uno reverse card on greenland and iceland

void void Feb 12, 2021, 12:45 PM

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greenland is the one that isn't green

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for now

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:45 PM

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iceland barely has any snow/ice and greenland is covered under snow lol

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Solution: move somewhere higher, like Sweden. Even if there are smelly people there, it's so cold it shouldn't be noticeable :P

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:47 PM

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me: tries to switch audio device
my brain: clicks steam in the system tray and opens dota 2 instead

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i might have an addiction

cobalt surge Feb 12, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Now where is cat?? I have something to show him

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:47 PM

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probably sleeping

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Ping him and he'll show up.

cobalt surge Feb 12, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Yeah I'm not going to ping him..

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:48 PM

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i'll do it for you

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:48 PM

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olive marlin Solution: move somewhere higher, like Sweden. Even if there are smelly people th...

spWarning Currently sweating a tonne

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Where about do you live Proxi?

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Linköping, Östergötlands län

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:49 PM

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doxxing

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:49 PM

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this is on my GH

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:50 PM

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Link-o-ping? Hmm 🤔

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:50 PM

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on my way

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peepoWalk

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:51 PM

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I was expecting you to live further north for some reason.

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:53 PM

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I planned on living in Stockholm, but ended up here

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it's hella hot though fuck me

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-3C 🥵

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:53 PM

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??

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 12:53 PM

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that's fucking cold

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:54 PM

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im freezing and its 6c

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:54 PM

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We have -7 rn.

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It's so pretty outside.

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Haven't had so much snow in quite a few years.

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Even though it's just a few cm.

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:54 PM

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its HOT wtf

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:55 PM

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yeah its like -6 here too

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:55 PM

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no u

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 12:55 PM

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the snow isnt really snow anymore tho

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 12:55 PM

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@waxen panther stupid ?

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:56 PM

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WTF? Proxi meanie.

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 12:56 PM

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wtf

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ok im done

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proxi hates me

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 12:59 PM

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I need to update my CV today and start looking for job offers in Netherlands and Sweden.

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:00 PM

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euro is worth more ;))

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 1:01 PM

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good luck bloodstone peepoLove

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 1:01 PM

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Yes, but also costs of living might be higher.

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:01 PM

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true but thats why you work where the prices are high and live where they are low bigbrain

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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should look into housing aswell, not the easiest thing

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expensive aswell

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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But I don't want to stay in Poland DED

analog sapphire Feb 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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very understandable

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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just come to germany 👀

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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This is cool, if someone wants to make some cash on the side by contributing: https://rysolv.com/issues

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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still waiting for us to buy a paper house in sweden PES3_IgnoreMusic

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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limber knot just come to germany 👀

Eww. No.

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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:(

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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lmfao

📎 unknown.png

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The algorithms can be right but it is not right now

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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yeah just saw that too lol

analog sapphire Feb 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Thats how it be sometimes

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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"Sometimes work. sometimes failed. Don't have good tools or ideas to fix it."

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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can work, work not now

quasi valley Feb 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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my algorithm works for exactly 3 cases of number inputs, that's "sometimes", right?

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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tf even is this repo? https://github.com/jiamo/HCLHlock

GitHub

jiamo/HCLHlock

Contribute to jiamo/HCLHlock development by creating an account on GitHub.

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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THIS WILL MAKE ALL PROBLEM SOLVED

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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wtf

#

📎 unknown.png

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my eyes are bleeding

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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and i thought i was bad but damn

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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oh, so it's a Hierarchical CLH Lock implementation

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

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and we're supposed to know what that means?

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

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https://people.csail.mit.edu/shanir/publications/CLH.pdf

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

monkaChrist

#

too many big words for my smoll brain

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

basically it's a lock designed to work more efficiently when multiple threads lock each other or something like that

#

(I don't think I would use that guy's library right now though 👀 )

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:11 PM

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it'll work normally but not right now kappa

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 1:12 PM

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(it also looks like java already uses a CLH queue internally for locks so ¯_(ツ)_/¯)

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or at least any lock that implements AbstractQueuedSynchronizer

tropic flame Feb 12, 2021, 1:18 PM

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if i run Portal 2 from a pendrive, what's the chance of the pendrive dying?

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:19 PM

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how are we supposed to know

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📎 unknown.png

tropic flame Feb 12, 2021, 1:20 PM

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idk dude just asking generally

#

i want to be able to play in this particular pc without leaving any trace of files in it

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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possibly possible

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use a usb 3

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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it probably wont die, but it wont be fast

swift root Feb 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

#

and give it a shot

#

yeah ded is right

#

won't be too quick

tropic flame Feb 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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i don't mind extra load times but would it impact my fps?

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:22 PM

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no

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usually levels are loaded beforehand

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 1:24 PM

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there is no reason to not just copy the files and then completely delete them again

#

just running it from USB wont stop it from potentially adding registry stuff or files in the home/local data folder anyways

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 1:29 PM

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Unless you use tools to create portable version.

#

I forget what was the good one called.

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:30 PM

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pull the plug.exe

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 1:31 PM

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Oh, I think it was Cameyo

#

Worked great a few years back.

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 1:31 PM

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https://owo.whats-th.is/4Xd8MWx.png the fuck happened here phoenixnap

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KEKWHYPER

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 1:32 PM

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ffs\

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 1:32 PM

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three auto replies instantly triggered

ashen cliff Feb 12, 2021, 1:32 PM

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Premium support.

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 1:39 PM

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Michale: https://k8s.af/

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 1:44 PM

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Pog

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 1:45 PM

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well

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I give up with blender for now

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 1:46 PM

#

i've had a failure story with kubernetes myself aswell

#

calico network plugin decided to die and then inter-container networking didn't work

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

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fuck

#

i overhyped my server

#

my server wont be able to handle 15 people

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"server"

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 1:55 PM

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expectations: "4-5 minutes"
real: 3 days and counting

📎 unknown.png

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 1:56 PM

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maybe it meant 4-5months ded

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kekw

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 1:57 PM

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cosmic raft I give up with blender for now

Number one reason why I am not a proper game dev yet 😂

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:00 PM

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vernal moth Number one reason why I am not a proper game dev yet 😂

well

#

I was following a recent tutorial

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from May 2020

#

followed what it said

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:01 PM

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They redid the UI

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:01 PM

#

but did not work at all

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:01 PM

#

Recently

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:01 PM

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so many shortcuts for blender dude

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 2:01 PM

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blender hurts me

#

it makes no sense

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:01 PM

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It's supposed to be beginner friendly now

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:01 PM

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who even memorizes that stuff

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:01 PM

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vernal moth It's supposed to be beginner friendly now

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 2:01 PM

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i swear theres like 4,000 keybinds

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:01 PM

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main reason i never bothered learning it

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pretty steep learning curve

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 2:02 PM

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i tried it once

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:02 PM

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worn ember who even memorizes that stuff

https://youtu.be/jQmkyM4CCy4

YouTube

Taran Van Hemert

Premiere's EXCALIBUR extension - is it good? Kinda.

Oh hello there
https://knightsoftheeditingtable.com/

▶ Play video

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:02 PM

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I worked in maya before, is blender that bad? I figured it would've become industry standard by now

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Taran does

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:02 PM

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cosmic raft HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

But point is, i wouldn't be surprised if old tutorials don't really apply anymore

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Maya was decent but I also had a great teacher

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Maybe I will downgrade to 2.8 from 2.91

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:03 PM

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2.8 was the redesign from my memory

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Well this tutorial and every other one uses 2.8

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2.91.2 seems broken

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 2:04 PM

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worn ember expectations: "4-5 minutes" real: 3 days and counting

weird, was 5 minutes for me

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you might have to open a ticket since they had verification issues earlier

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:05 PM

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great

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:05 PM

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2.83 is lts, maybe try there kash

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:05 PM

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minidev wen

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:07 PM

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YUP

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2.83 works

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2.91 does not

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:08 PM

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MiniDigger Games would work great as a company name

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Plus logo

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Like a animated mini digger

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:08 PM

#

Martin Games

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:09 PM

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I have this game idea from 2016 that i really wanna work on 😂

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What are you playing with kash?

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 2:09 PM

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imagine being able to design stuff

#

imagine

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Like, my first scratches

#

📎 Screenshot_20210212-150956.png

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 2:10 PM

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there's a reason why most companies hire both designers and developers lol

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:15 PM

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everybody can design

#

it just takes iteration

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 2:15 PM

#

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/so-i-have-started-developing-this-game.406838/ is this the game mini thonk

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

So I have started developing this game

Hey guys,

so I have been getting back into game development, now that the godot engine has nice c# scripting support, and wanted to share a bit of...

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:15 PM

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No

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I never wrote any code for that idea

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As I don't wanna waste it

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:17 PM

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limber knot everybody can design

Honestly, no.

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 2:19 PM

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honestly, yes

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:20 PM

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As someone who had to work with game designers in a game design study, I highly disagree

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:20 PM

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with game design, do you mean game play design or game graphic design?

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Actual game design, not game art

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:21 PM

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thats not what we were talking about

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:21 PM

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ive had some great idea's for plugins but i dont feel comfortable working on them alone lol

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as it would literally take forever

wide chasm Feb 12, 2021, 2:21 PM

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If you're like me, doing game art will also result in disaster

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Oh. I assumed because you were talking about ideas that it was related to that.

#

Game art takes just as much, if not more time and dedication, it's not an easy feat

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:23 PM

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i have a bunch of friends in the game art, some are loving it others are hating it lol

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concept art and 3d art

wide chasm Feb 12, 2021, 2:23 PM

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If I would really desperately want to make a game, I'd just take free game assets online though, because it will be orders of magnitude better than what I'd make.

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:23 PM

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A good friend of mine is the lead concept artist for an upcoming rts and he's loving it.

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:24 PM

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rts 👀

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we need more of those

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:24 PM

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As a designer I'm at least capable of doing enough in the art department to get my ideas across

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 2:24 PM

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worn ember rts 👀

isnt multiplayer minecraft technically half rts

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:25 PM

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Excuse me what

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:25 PM

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wtf

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:25 PM

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📎 20210210_041446.jpg

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:25 PM

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if thats the game then literally every game is rts

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well almost

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:25 PM

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my game would be like anno, but with factorio like gameplay, in a interesting scenario that got all kind of consequences on the gameplay

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civ is rts

topaz mortar Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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anno mcheart

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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runs

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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"real time" -> turns

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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maybe not anno, more like the settlers

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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yes

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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bah

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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hi kash uwu

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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I think its pretty much like the settlers, just with a really interesting twist

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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I guess I am trying to make too complex of a thing for any tutorials to work

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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have you tried dyson sphere program yet mini

untold wasp Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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can someone please help me

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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no but I have been watching vids

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kash what you building?

untold wasp Feb 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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i did somethings to my sever a while ago and i want to undo tehm

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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its factorio with planetary annihilation like planets, and graphics that will blow your mind lol

untold wasp Feb 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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i turned off the end and i want it back

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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I dont like that the grid isnt even

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it fucks with my OCD

untold wasp Feb 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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but i dont know how

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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well its a sphere xD

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but yeah

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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trying to make something like this minidigger

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📎 mockup-blank-billboard-two-legs-260nw-552565762.png

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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it gets annoying sometimes

untold wasp Feb 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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hello?

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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you dont

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:28 PM

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that doesnt look too complex

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:28 PM

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famous last words

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:28 PM

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guess ill never do 3d design if thats already so complicated, lol

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:28 PM

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well

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:28 PM

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its just something you need to get used to

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:28 PM

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today is my first day using blender

worn ember Feb 12, 2021, 2:29 PM

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as with anything it takes time

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:29 PM

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can't say I did not try

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https://i.imgur.com/XnQjd05.png

Imgur

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:30 PM

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the difficulty curve of 3d modeling is quite interesting. once you get the basics and some hotkeys memorized, it's gonna become a lot more usable

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:30 PM

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that doesnt look bad

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UV mapping is so strange

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:30 PM

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no but the issue is

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I can't figure out how to UV map it

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:30 PM

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try actually recreating the shape of the feet, that's gonna help you with realizing what tools are at your disposal

limber knotBOT Feb 12, 2021, 2:31 PM

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who needs textures anyways

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just use albedo colors and call it low poly art

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:31 PM

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uv mapping is weird, i don't like that either ngl

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i uv mapped a human character though, it wasn't too hard

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there's different types of unwrappers

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:33 PM

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I wish I could just like, pay someone to make this in blender for me and then send me the blender file

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:33 PM

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is that thing all you need?

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:33 PM

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well, basically. but it is not as simple as it looks in that photo

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:34 PM

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why not?

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:34 PM

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well

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:34 PM

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i haven't used a 3d modeling program since like 3 years, i'mma check out blender actually, curious now

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hope maya skills are translatable

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(i bet there are free billboard models online btw)

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:36 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/nXFeBVq.png

Imgur

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Everything needs to be split up into faces, so each side can have its own texture applied

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the front is inset, and the inset should be separate as well

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etc

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:36 PM

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ah i see, i didn't notice the frame

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shouldn't be too hard, you just make an extra vertice along the middle of the outside edge and make it into two parts in the uv

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and the unwrapping into uv should do the rest pretty much automatically

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-liar-liar-funny-gibberish-blah-gif-12443056

Tenor

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is what i heard

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:38 PM

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i mean you're only dealing with square faces, are the uv mapping tools on blender that bad?

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you don't even need to do any weight painting or other nonsense shit for this

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:38 PM

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I dunno, this is the first day I have ever used blender

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:38 PM

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You are talking to somebody who most likely never worked with vertices and edges and UV and stuff

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:39 PM

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^

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:39 PM

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and i confused vertice and edge

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i just realized

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i don't have my own terminology right even lol

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:39 PM

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:P

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so

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anyone know who/where I can poke to get something made? :p

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in blender, so I can edit it after

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Thinky is about the only one in this community i know does 3d models, lol

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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thinky?

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Thinkofname

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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ah, him

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Yes, part of this Community is a stretch ^^

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I have never touched bender either, but you make me wanna try

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I'll sign off work in a few, get smth to eat and give it a go ^^

topaz mortar Feb 12, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Maya is worth a try as well

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:45 PM

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maya is not free

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@vivid ivy you seem to have some knowledge - know anyone/anywhere to poke?

vernal moth Feb 12, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Other tools isn't the solution here

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:46 PM

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no idea tbh, i'm checking out blender right now

topaz mortar Feb 12, 2021, 2:46 PM

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cosmic raft maya is not free

Jup, had to use it during Bachelor. Recognized I'm not a 3D guy.

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 2:46 PM

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seems fairly straightforward from what i can tell, i'mma try to recreate that billboard you're making but I'm also gonna mess around with it for a while and check out the tools and hotkeys etc.

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 2:48 PM

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hm

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Whats better? Party and friends or Parties?

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 2:58 PM

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none

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 2:58 PM

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what does that even mean

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 2:58 PM

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what would be good for minigame parties?

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 2:59 PM

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waxen panther what does that even mean

Party and friends or parties, the plugins

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i have never used either so I thought someone here might have

void void Feb 12, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Anyone know of a dedicated server provider who does setup and all that for me? budget max $120 a month

topaz mortar Feb 12, 2021, 3:03 PM

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I like 🍕 more than your question.

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 3:05 PM

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i like 🍕 more than everything

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setting up a server takes like 5 minutes too lol

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 3:06 PM

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void void Anyone know of a dedicated server provider who does setup and all that for me? b...

i like my dedicated

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its very reliable

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i'd recommend it

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customer support sucks but besides that.

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:06 PM

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a good managed server provider for under $120/mo is probably unlikely to exist

void void Feb 12, 2021, 3:06 PM

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is OVH's game 2 (https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/bare-metal/game/game-2/) reliable for a minecraft survival server with 20-40 players?

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:07 PM

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that's not managed

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and that's extremely overkill for 40 players

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who does setup and all that
with this i'm assuming you want it set up with a panel and all & someone to manage the systems administration of your server

void void Feb 12, 2021, 3:07 PM

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yeah michael spot on

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:07 PM

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you don't want ovh then

void void Feb 12, 2021, 3:07 PM

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well I could always teach myself

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:08 PM

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where would be the ideal location

void void Feb 12, 2021, 3:08 PM

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if it saves me paying $50 exta a month

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Europe, preferably germany

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:08 PM

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https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ax

Dedicated Root Server Hosting - Hetzner Online GmbH

Find your reliable dream server, optimized for high capacity use, ever-growing storage needs or rapid and parallel processing.

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AX41-NVME would be plenty

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https://dedicatedmc.io/dedicated dedicatedmc does have a $90/mo option for this one, managed

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 3:09 PM

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cosmic raft <@!225979235955769345> you seem to have some knowledge - know anyone/anywhere to...

📎 blender_3nYa93rfCM.png

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 3:09 PM

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:o

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wow

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:10 PM

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I had like a year of CAD classes, it's basically the same thing, right? 😛

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Not that I remember any of that these days but it'd probably come back quick

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 3:10 PM

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kinda

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blender is actually pretty fun ngl

void void Feb 12, 2021, 3:10 PM

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I was looking at the performance-03 on pebble (https://pebblehost.com/dedicated), as I am planning on expanding my server

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 3:10 PM

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if i had to actually connect the meshes though, that'd be ugh

void void Feb 12, 2021, 3:10 PM

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anyone got good experience with pebble?

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:10 PM

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expensive

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a 3600 will be fine for up to 50 players or so

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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I probably know more about how blender is rendering the things you make than I do how to make anything in blender

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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i would highly suggest hiring someone to do your systems administration as a one-off

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and buying a hetzner dedicated server yourself

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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void void is OVH's game 2 (https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/bare-metal/game/game-2/) reliable f...

This is my dedicated:

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Like Michale

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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I love it tbh

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https://bit.ly/2Nob9Nj

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def worth to check out

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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reliablesite is ass

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not worth checking out

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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reliable

muted storm Feb 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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magic river I probably know more about how blender is rendering the things you make than I d...

Yeah, that sounds like institutionalized learning if I've ever heard it lol

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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never had an issue with it

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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ovh is so expensive 😒

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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mad thermal throttling, garbage network

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:12 PM

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muted storm Yeah, that sounds like institutionalized learning if I've ever heard it lol

Huh? I meant because I read rendering papers for fun

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 3:12 PM

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whats a good dedicated from your pov

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:12 PM

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phoenixnap, ovh, hetzner for EU and if you're a cheapskate

muted storm Feb 12, 2021, 3:12 PM

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I'm more taking a stab at how post-secondary likes to teach you about the specifics of things rather than actually using things lol

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 3:12 PM

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what's the disadvantages for going the cheapskate route on this one?

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:13 PM

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SIGGRAPH is like Christmas

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All these new things to read

muted storm Feb 12, 2021, 3:13 PM

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Like when programming classes teach you about how to do math in binary

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like no thank you, I signed up for C#, not binary

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:13 PM

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I wish I knew how to do math in binary

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:13 PM

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hetzner doesn't have the best hardware in my opinion, slower SSDs for example

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you get what you pay for

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they're fine to use though

muted storm Feb 12, 2021, 3:13 PM

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PES_CryHands you don't need to know how. that's why we have high level languages

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 3:13 PM

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hm.

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:13 PM

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Like, I know but I have to spend a lot of time thinking about it every time it comes up and usually bust out my calculator's programming mode to help

vivid ivy Feb 12, 2021, 3:14 PM

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considering i'm on a trash vps, anything is an upgrade

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:14 PM

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I do a lot of bit twiddling in Java...

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Or I did when I was doing Java

void void Feb 12, 2021, 3:15 PM

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twin lagoon expensive

They probably buy and sell from OVH as their performance-03 is the exact same specs as OVH's.

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:15 PM

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probably

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not worth it though

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i'd avoid the game series on ovh personally

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slow memory speeds + ryzen isn't worth the money you pay for it

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:15 PM

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pebblehost is trash

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:15 PM

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and you don't have vRack support for when you want to use multiple dedicated servers

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not a huge fan of pebble myself either no

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i'd either use the Advance-2 or Infra-1 / Infra-2 at OVH, only if you don't plan on using TCPShield

void void Feb 12, 2021, 3:16 PM

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idk what TCPShield is lol

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:16 PM

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And yeah pebblehost is just selling OVH machines

void void Feb 12, 2021, 3:17 PM

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other than that pebblehost is overprices, what is bad with them?

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Using them now and they've been very helpfull

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 3:18 PM

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0-10 scale?

📎 unknown.png

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:18 PM

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their 9900k runs like garbage, moved various clients away from them after thermal throttling issues

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2

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 3:20 PM

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this is the ovh youre talking about
https://us.ovhcloud.com/

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right?

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:20 PM

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that's OVH US yes

topaz mortar Feb 12, 2021, 3:20 PM

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What do you recommend? i9 11900k seems to be an option.

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:20 PM

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topaz mortar What do you recommend? i9 11900k seems to be an option.

nothing on RS

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generally i just recommend the E2288g, it's pretty much top of the line and OVH & PNAP offers it

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:23 PM

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void void other than that pebblehost is overprices, what is bad with them?

i simply don't like how to do certain things e.g. offering their own in-house timings viewer over timings.aikar.co that hides away GC flag recommendations that people should use

mental meadow Feb 12, 2021, 3:25 PM

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Michael uwu

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 3:25 PM

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among other things, re: timings stuff

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:25 PM

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it's one of the more noticable things but yes

waxen panther Feb 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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e2288g catblushy

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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they've grown quite a lot in the last year or so to basically becoming an alternative to mcprohosting and other big hosts

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 3:27 PM

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what are some specs that i should care most about

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:27 PM

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cpu is 90% of it

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 3:27 PM

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on a dedicated for minecraft

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:28 PM

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basically, choose a modern, recent, high-end desktop processor

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or certain workstation xeons e.g. E21xx, E22xx, W-1xxx

keen aspen Feb 12, 2021, 3:29 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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would this be worth more than the specs i sent you?

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:29 PM

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pick the infra-2 over the game-2

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i would avoid the game series for reasons already mentioned above

sacred depot Feb 12, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Will vouch for infra 2 as welll.

topaz mortar Feb 12, 2021, 3:30 PM

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So the E2288g has a better single core performance than the i9 11990k?

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I don't think so.

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:30 PM

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11900k will be better in ideal circumstances

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most hosts don't offer the 11900k

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need solid cooling for the 11900k too

sacred depot Feb 12, 2021, 3:31 PM

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And slightly more power 🤣

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 3:31 PM

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e2288g is still a solid option, definitely not the best nowadays compared to recent desktop cpus but you don't have much of a choice

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and if you want to scale dedicated servers, you'd ideally want a VLAN/vRack/vSwitch provided by the host so you don't saturate the public interface

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game servers don't have that option as for most game servers it's unnecessary but with minecraft you're going to have to proxy all game traffic through velocity/bungee

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basically, prioritize the infra or advance series over game if you're going to scale your network and use multiple dedicated servers, avoid reliablesite & intel's x900k series because like every host is incapable of cooling it properly

sacred depot Feb 12, 2021, 3:39 PM

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I will also say to jump on Micheals statement. Reliablesite also has some bad routing sometimes. Miami is a good example with cogent.

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:39 PM

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I love how most game hosting servers seem to provide a similar CPU to what I have in my client machine lol

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aren't client CPUs better for Minecraft btw? since they're more optimised for performing less concurrent but more intense tasks, aren't they?

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then server CPUs are more optimised for things like websites, as they're more optimised for handling a lot of concurrent but (relatively) less intense tasks

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or is that just me talking out of my ass lol

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:44 PM

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A few of them are literally the same CPU just binned differently

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They're generally always the same or very similar design

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:44 PM

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ah okay

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:45 PM

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In general the server parts go for "moar cores!!!11!" at a lower frequency though, yeah

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:45 PM

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people seem to see "more" and think that always means "better"

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e.g. with cores

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and also connection pools

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and other things

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:46 PM

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Well, unless you're only running one task and that task doesn't do anything in parallel you're better off with more slower cores

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To a certain extent anyway

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:46 PM

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but Computer Science teaches us that 2 things performed synchronously will always be faster than 2 things performed concurrently

sacred depot Feb 12, 2021, 3:46 PM

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For Enterprise Applications/uses, Many is better unless you have software that is HEAVILY single-threaded/core reliant.

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:46 PM

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More slower cores use less power too

sacred depot Feb 12, 2021, 3:46 PM

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For example... Minecraft. Heavily Single Threaded... don't go tossing it on a Xeon Gold/Platinum or EPYC.

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:47 PM

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more cores is better when you need to handle a large amount of things concurrently

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like websites for example

sacred depot Feb 12, 2021, 3:47 PM

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VPS/Websites is a great example, yes.

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:48 PM

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Databases

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:48 PM

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but websites don't really consume that much in terms of requests

sacred depot Feb 12, 2021, 3:48 PM

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Databases can get iffy depending on the tasks at hand.

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:48 PM

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AAA games made in the last 5 years

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:48 PM

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yeah working with databases can be a nightmare

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concurrency in general is just a nigthmare

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:48 PM

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More often than not if you want a server you want one with more slower cores 😛

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

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yeah

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

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It sounds like you need some Rust in your life

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

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lol

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

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ferrisWave

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

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concurrency is a nightmare when x depends on y

cunning raft Feb 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

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ok

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

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nothing is a nightmare in rust, least of all concurrency

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

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https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ch16-00-concurrency.html

Fearless Concurrency - The Rust Programming Language

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:50 PM

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oh nice

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isn't Rust kinda low level though?

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if it is, I probably wanna look into low level stuff more first before learning Rust

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:51 PM

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Rust is the way to "look in to low level stuff" 😛

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 3:51 PM

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rust manages to do both

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:51 PM

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Like, it's low level with training wheels

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"free" training wheels

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 3:51 PM

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it's kinda impressive how it fits for both high-level & low-level apps :p

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:52 PM

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nice

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 3:52 PM

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fn largest_palindromic_number(from: u64, to: u64) -> u64 {
    (from..=to)
        .into_par_iter()
        .flat_map(|i| {
            (from..=to)
                .into_par_iter()
                .map(|u| u * i)
                .filter(is_palindrome)
                .max()
        })
        .max()
        .expect("no palindromes")
}

into_par_iter creates a parallell iterator that in the end returns a value -- all without the concept of futures or promises; does it really get more high level than this?

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 3:53 PM

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Rust is 9/10, can recommend ferris_bongo

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 3:53 PM

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problem 4 of proj euler fyi

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 3:53 PM

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minor badge ```rust fn largest_palindromic_number(from: u64, to: u64) -> u64 { (from..=t...

what language

sand epoch Feb 12, 2021, 3:53 PM

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rust ❤️

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 3:53 PM

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^

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 3:53 PM

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ah

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at least it isn't go

sand epoch Feb 12, 2021, 3:54 PM

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even though i've never written anything interesting in it 😦

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 3:54 PM

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using the rayon crate

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Rust ecosystem is the best I've worked with so far.

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 3:55 PM

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My only problem with Rust

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is that it uses TOML garbage

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 3:55 PM

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Still better than proprietary formats or properties.

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 3:55 PM

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TOML? I've seen that

peak ginkgo Feb 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

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TOML is neat

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I enjoy it.

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

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I hate it

magic river Feb 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

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TOML is just INI with a better spec

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

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I'd prefer yaml, json, xml, anything

peak ginkgo Feb 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

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lmao ini

ancient bolt Feb 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

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It's just a config file, and it's fine

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

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high-level shit like what Gson does is also pretty easy:

#[derive(Deserialize)]
struct Test {
  string: String,
  floating: f64,
  unsigned: u64,
  signed: i64,
}

let test: Test = serde_json::from_str(r#"
{
  "string": "hello, ferris!",
  "floating": 1.23,
  "unsigned": 9223372036854775808,
  "signed": -9223372036854775808
}
"#)?;

The ? lets you return Results

peak ginkgo Feb 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

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JSON is best, I use JSON in my plugins

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Json and XML 🤮

ancient bolt Feb 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Doesn't really affect the language

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Rarely have to touch it

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

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and it's easy to write very, very low level shit like pointer manipulation for VGA screens in a kernel

ancient bolt Feb 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Kash always finds the strangest hangups with languages :p

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

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yea I have no problem with rust the language, just the "ecosystem"

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I have played with rust, it's nice

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 3:58 PM

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ancient bolt Kash always finds the strangest hangups with languages :p

maybe, but I do give them a try at least!

minor badge Feb 12, 2021, 3:58 PM

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you're rarely bound to use TOML; only in cargo's config & rustfmt's config in any average repo tbh

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there's also RON among others if you just want a serde-compatible language

olive marlin Feb 12, 2021, 3:59 PM

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I'll take Rust and TOML over programming in Jinja any day.

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 4:09 PM

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#old-forum-feed message

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https://tenor.com/9p1d.gif

Tenor

spiral robin Feb 12, 2021, 4:18 PM

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You got rights to use that gif ?

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 4:20 PM

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lol

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 4:21 PM

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poggers my server actually got players i thought this would flop

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potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 4:21 PM

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if you dont watch star trek how dare you

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aber pepelove

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 4:21 PM

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im also confused how a laptop runs this so well

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 4:21 PM

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according to https://tenor.com/legal-terms-update actually I do

Tenor

Tenor Terms of Service Update

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 4:22 PM

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that's legal rights, aber meant internet rights

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 4:22 PM

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internet rights? lol

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 4:22 PM

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aPES_WideEyes yes

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right @spiral robin ?

waxen schooner Feb 12, 2021, 4:23 PM

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what are internet rights?

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 4:27 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-guy-this-guy-paul-mc-cartney-gif-12963202

mental meadow Feb 12, 2021, 4:31 PM

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simple uwu

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 4:31 PM

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uwura uwu

spiral robin Feb 12, 2021, 4:32 PM

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hi

mental meadow Feb 12, 2021, 4:32 PM

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aber uwu

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 4:32 PM

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now aber's back

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 4:32 PM

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whats up guys

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i didnt know a laptop can handle this

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i expected lag at around 6 players

twin lagoon Feb 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

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./mspt

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

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not bad tbh

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and this is all going through velocity which is on a pi

worthy geode Feb 12, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Velocity is pretty lightweight, it's great

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 4:42 PM

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i know its really good lol

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why is multivers so ass

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it respawns people in the nether

peak ginkgo Feb 12, 2021, 4:45 PM

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https://u.dejay.dev/🤩🧭🍎.png

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might fuck around and pull an oskar

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run a server on this bad boy

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 4:46 PM

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that looks pretty good

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 4:46 PM

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why no WSL

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angryboii

mental meadow Feb 12, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Use Hyperverse oskar

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 4:47 PM

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seemsgood https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/🧺💾🎉⛩😋.png

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 4:49 PM

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thanks to help from @vivid ivy my blender project for the morning is complete \o/

mental meadow Feb 12, 2021, 4:50 PM

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What did u make kash?

spiral robin Feb 12, 2021, 4:50 PM

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a blender project

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 4:50 PM

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mental meadow Use Hyperverse oskar

how easy is it to move quickly

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because my players are pissed

mental meadow Feb 12, 2021, 4:50 PM

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3

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Idk

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 4:50 PM

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my "solution"

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mental meadow Feb 12, 2021, 4:50 PM

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Try it

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 4:51 PM

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this artifact right

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cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 4:51 PM

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mental meadow What did u make kash?

Ryoyo did the work on this version, but I made basically the same thing earlier for the most part - Ry just made an improved version and did the UV mapping that I could not figure out

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 4:51 PM

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for 1.16.5

mental meadow Feb 12, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Probably

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That looks like a giant billboard

spiral robin Feb 12, 2021, 4:53 PM

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it do

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

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it is

spiral robin Feb 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

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papermc billboards?

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

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no

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for exporting into a game :p

spiral robin Feb 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

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koriyawnflipped

ashen cliff Feb 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Thank you Adobe: https://posili.me/i/2021-02-12_17-54-25.png

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

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sulu

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@wraith trail leave

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good

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do failed tasks slow down the server the server

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because now my plugin is complaining about world not existing

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 4:59 PM

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o.o

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 5:00 PM

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damn

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still no lag

spiral robin Feb 12, 2021, 5:00 PM

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ok

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 5:00 PM

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13/20

still (?) no lag

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ok

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 5:00 PM

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its on an old laptop

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 5:00 PM

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ok

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 5:00 PM

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so thats why im saying still

spiral robin Feb 12, 2021, 5:01 PM

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ok

visual egret Feb 12, 2021, 5:01 PM

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nice pfp simple

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 5:01 PM

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thanks

cosmic raft Feb 12, 2021, 5:01 PM

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thonk

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📎 07db9f470c326744d5ca63dea8488a04.png

spiral robin Feb 12, 2021, 5:04 PM

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kashikePlead

potent fossil Feb 12, 2021, 5:04 PM

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friend drew it for me

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so i just said k