general

[upper flicker]

You can’t use usmt?

[dim shadow]

well thats mind=blown

[upper flicker]

Has to be built in built in?

[ashen cliff]

Build in.

That's the hard part.

[upper flicker]

That’s unfortunate

[dim shadow]

if its too complicated u can always do it in a 🦇 file

[upper flicker]

It’s in the Windows ADK

[dim shadow]

🦇 files r build in

[limber knot]

r u doin somethin on a skool compootar

[ashen cliff]

Well. I do have AD.

So yeah, can't be done without addition tools. Won that argument.

[upper flicker]

If you can’t even use Microsoft’s deployment tools, it’s just tying your hands

[ashen cliff]

It was stupid anyway, since migrating old users would be the worst idea possible in that case.

[olive marlin]

Cat WTF? My disks just got corrupted. Can't boot the system.

[golden gust]

Welcome to gentoo, biatch

[olive marlin]

Imma put your face on your pooped rug.

Looks like my home partition is fucked.

[minor badge]

f

[golden gust]

F

[waxen panther]

.

[limpid comet]

.

[left swift]

,

[limpid comet]

blocked

[left swift]

Glocked

[olive marlin]

So my ram gave me some issues like a year ago, but it was fine later. Now, my caps lock light started blinking which, according to Dell website, means:

The memory is believed to be good, but it's about to be exercised.
And solution is to replace the ram.
Then it crashed.

[limpid comet]

comefrom>goto

[limber knot]

but it was fine later

[olive marlin]

I guess I'll contact them that RAM is causing issues again and that I want it replaced.

[limber knot]

how did you manage to do that

[wraith trail]

I might just be dumb but what does "The memory is believed to be good, but it's about to be exercised" even mean

[minor badge]

it's dying

[wraith trail]

that the memory is fine, but its going to get used?

oh

[golden gust]

there's always memtest, windows even has one built in somewhere iirc

[left swift]

It's about to go for a jog to the gym

Windows memtest is in advanced startup probably

[olive marlin]

It stopped booting, showing RAM boot errors. I tried to boot with one stick - nada. Other stick - nothing. I pulled a stick from another laptop - works. Put one previous stick back in - works.

[minor badge]

@olive marlin AGPL?

[olive marlin]

Sure.

[golden gust]

oof

[limber knot]

when ram fails it's gonna be random when it decides to die

but ya, do memtest stuff

[left swift]

O it's not advanced startup it's a program in ur desktop

Dum

[minor badge]

@olive marlin https://github.com/proximyst/typewriters will invite you

[vernal moth]

seems like IJ fixed the terminal bugs with current EAP

[minor badge]

[spiral robin]

reqwest 🥺

[minor badge]

I really appreciate the fact GH Actions is free now

[limber knot]

mmm free stuff

[minor badge]

though we might want to use my drone instance or something for faster CI, prof

[meager tusk]

mmmmyes

freeeee

[olive marlin]

I'm fine with either. But might be unable to debug Drone.

Do we need fast CI?

GH isn't that slow.

[minor badge]

don't think that's a big problem

and yeah, i'd appreciate that lol

[olive marlin]

Ok.

[limber knot]

any github actions to run a miner

[minor badge]

2 minutes to compile it lol

and it'll need to compile once for checking, testing, clippy, and rustfmt

[green turret]

Today I made banana bread

[olive marlin]

Testing Memory in Progress... Estimated Time Left 2 min 17 seconds
goes to answer Proxi
Testing Memory in Progress... Estimated Time Left 27 min 19 seconds

[minor badge]

actually, wonder if it'll be better if we try a cache...

[olive garden]

good job garbage!

that's nice

[green turret]

Thank you!

[minor badge]

https://owo.whats-th.is/5UB62sb.png

[hazy marlin]

okay so I've seen servers that use noteblocks for custom blocks, how would this work? and how would you add the individual textures?

[green turret]

Can you rephrase that question in a way that makes my banana bread the answer? Because my banana bread is the answer.

Gon' get fat.

[limber knot]

nah, you just need a kinect

[wide hazel]

egg82 accidentally missed his discord payment

[visual egret]

pog

[minor badge]

https://girlsare.life/28FhdhZ.png okay, cache works @olive marlin :p

[limber knot]

o hey egg82

do u have some sort of api-only thing I can shade into my plogen for ur antivpn

I just wanna do IP checks in my own plugin

[wide hazel]

There's an API, and there's a common module

[limber knot]

no need to use the plugin itself on my serbur

so I just shade that in and use it?

[wide hazel]

You'd need to use the common module

Then implement the functionality specific to your platform

[limber knot]

I just need something to evaluate an IP

nothing more

[wide hazel]

Could just use the plugin and set it to api-only mode by turning off kick and commands in the config

Then use the API

[limber knot]

kinda wanna avoid having to maintain another plugin on the server tho

[wide hazel]

Yeah, then use and extend the functionality of the common module

Which contains all the core functionality of the plugin

At that point, it's up to you to hook it into whatever system you're planning on doing

[limber knot]

I'm just assuming you have the various IP checking services all accounted for in your module

idk if that's correct

[wide hazel]

Yep

Plus the storage and messaging functions

Config, etc

[limber knot]

yea don't need those

[wide hazel]

Everything that's not specific to a single platform is in common

I sorta stole that whole concept from LP

Same with the API

[hazy marlin]

?

[waxen panther]

mf hit us with the question mark

[limber knot]

?

[wide hazel]

?

[ashen cliff]

?

[limber knot]

<artifactId>antivpn-common</artifactId> imm assume?

[wide hazel]

Yep

That's the one

The internals for the plugin are a little spicy, probably best to see the implementations on GitHub for help

[hazy marlin]

spice

[spare venture]

Block states

[limber knot]

u still on 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT?

[wide hazel]

For the parent

Not the common module itself

[limber knot]

hmm

unless you overridin sumwhere else

[wide hazel]

Parent pom version never changes because I'm lazy

[limber knot]

cuz common pom is same

[spare venture]

Thank me for answering your question okay?

[limber knot]

nah barty, now he gonna want u 2 do it 4 him

[wide hazel]

Common pom should be ${plugin-version}

[spare venture]

I put him on the right path

[limber knot]

oh

I was reading parent tag whoops

[wide hazel]

Heh

I like maven properties

Saves me some time and headache

[hazy marlin]

lol thanks party

[limber knot]

personally imma avoid multi module setups until I find a need to do such a thing

[wide hazel]

It helps when I want to extend and generify functionality

[limber knot]

hmm, do you push common to ur maven repo

oh you do, just not the latest one there, k

[manic ivy]

Hello! Is it possible with a plugin to replace a block from one to another in the entire world? Because MCEDIT and his forks does not work for 1.16.5, if not do you know other programms?

[twin lagoon]

amethyst

[limber knot]

what is happening to these dumcord usernames

[twin lagoon]

er no

https://github.com/Amulet-Team/Amulet-Map-Editor

amulet*

[zealous wedge]

typing normally is too hard for ppl

[manic ivy]

amulet doesn't allow to replace already looked into it 😦

[zealous wedge]

can't join a discord unless you have a bunch of unicode

[wide hazel]

@Robo: "latest" = potentially unstable. Stable builds are pushed to the repo

Er.. if I remember to mvn deploy

[limber knot]

im dum, where do I make request for ip

[wide hazel]

Gotta load up a service

[spare venture]

Just make a plugin that scans the entire chunk for the block on load and replaces it

🧠

Alternatively for a less performance intensive one, whenever they break that block have a plugin replace the drop with the new block!

[hazy marlin]

hmm ok

Would it be better to use a different block to a noteblock?

[left swift]

.xray

[limber knot]

hmm, messaging service? seems both of your implementations have private constructors :c so I'm prolly still missin somethin

[spare venture]

Mushroom blocks are easier, but note blocks work fine too

[worn ember]

[hazy marlin]

Why do they work better than each other?

[spare venture]

More people use mushroom blocks so there is more support/documentation for them

[hazy marlin]

ah ok

[spare venture]

Note blocks would work just fine

I’m assuming you know how to make plugins haha

[hazy marlin]

erm

[spare venture]

Bad assumption?

You’re not going to be able to implement custom blocks using note blocks or mushroom blocks without a plugin really

[hazy marlin]

Yeah so I need to learn to make plugins first

[spare venture]

😛

[worn ember]

*learn java first

@spare venture how's ur server

[spare venture]

Fine just fine

[worn ember]

That's fine

[spare venture]

Thanks for asking

[worn ember]

Is it public yet?

[spare venture]

About a month yes

[hazy marlin]

How long did it take for you guys to learn Java/plugins

[spare venture]

Not too long tbh

[worn ember]

At least a few months to do it properly

[spare venture]

Probably

[worn ember]

Few years to master java

Depends how much time you want to devote

[spare venture]

You’re a master at java?

[worn ember]

Never said I was

[spare venture]

You’ve been making plugins for a few years

🤨

[limber knot]

doesn't make anyone a master lul

just look at qball for instance

[worn ember]

I've been doing plugins for like 5-6 years now lol

But only really got into java properly for the past few years

[spare venture]

Mhm

I was just going off your definition

[worn ember]

I'm a slow learner so I take long to master anything lol

[spare venture]

Now on the other hand I consider myself a master server owner

[limber knot]

wow great joke ok funi ha

[worn ember]

Do your 5 players agree?

[spare venture]

Excuse me

There are 16 on right now

And yes they would

[hazy marlin]

what are your 16 players doing lol

[spare venture]

Nothing they’re fake players

[hazy marlin]

eek

[worn ember]

Boosting player numbers smh

[spare venture]

It’s all a front for my drug smuggling business

Which I am also a master of

[hazy marlin]

...

[worn ember]

What drugs do you sell

[spare venture]

You know those prison drug servers

I sell those

Ded, you wanna partner with me? As if you help me make plugins for free and I sell loot boxes

[limpid comet]

yes ded do it

[spare venture]

I have a list of very happy former partners

[limpid comet]

u will have no time to work on dum ded rtp and quantum will reign supreme

[spare venture]

They are definitely real people

The one thing is no RTP ded

No RTP at all

[wide chasm]

Dark is an expert at making plugins for free, he'd be a great asset

[spare venture]

Mhm

You just gotta muscle him at the negotiation phase

Listen ded, your payment would be a rank called developer that just changes how you’re sorted in the tab list

[wide chasm]

At the bottom

[spare venture]

Yep

Although you can cash in on our emoji pack money

[hazy marlin]

So you can make it have different textures for different notes?

[spare venture]

The different block states yes

[limber knot]

idk why barty thinks he has a better offer for dumeye

I offer him total monopoly over the rtp market

[hazy marlin]

So how would you tune the different pitches?

If players are placing and breaking them? do you just give it a certain code to keep that pitch or something?

[limber knot]

have u ever made plogenz or did javas

u can do all sorts of data storage thingies

[hazy marlin]

ah

interesting

[limpid comet]

robo are you allergic to speaking normally

[limber knot]

normally or formally

I speak proper wen i wanna

and generally if I'm in a more serious/matter of fact mood or want to convey such

[spare venture]

Ded and robo when are we going to all just partner up

[limber knot]

i agree

u merge ur serbur and he merges rtp

we'll monopolize the trash tier minecraft market

[vernal bone]

Hello! What is the most lightweight irc server, that actually runs on a potato, and doesn't have a configuration file longer than the ubuntu manual?

[limber knot]

bewareircd I think?

[vernal bone]

I tried inspircd today, but got lost in the 56 pages long configuration guide

[limber knot]

lol ya

oragano looks interesting but I can't connect to it with my client

[vernal bone]

Thank you, I will check that.

[limber knot]

thought irc v3 was backwards compatible but maybe not, or it's just their implementation idk

[hazy marlin]

surely I'd get server performance issues with the plugin updating every custom block

[wide chasm]

For just people placing/changing/breaking blocks? Not really.

[hazy marlin]

ok

robo reveal yourself!

[limber knot]

s/ok/Im a mega dumcordian

Correction, <DiscordBot> <06F​an​to​m2​50​YT​> Im a mega dumcordian

[minor badge]

hello, robo !

[spare venture]

It’s extremely not performance intensive to track the block break and place events

[hazy marlin]

ok good

[visual egret]

Why does pebblehost's ToS have a fear of backups

[golden gust]

disk space and in general lack of monitoring, I'd guess

Way too many fun stories of servers crashing out because somebody filled up the disk with backups

[limber knot]

100% uptime ok

first thing advertised, but that's not what I think of when I think of pebblehost

I just think $1/GB is what comes to my mind

[signal parrot]

Ok, so I am new and want to learn making plugins.

[visual egret]

learn java first

[signal parrot]

I want to make a paper plugin, but see that people are using a spigot api for the library

[visual egret]

my first mistake was hopping straight onto plugins

[signal parrot]

I know java

[limber knot]

just replace it with the paaper api maven artifact

heh, they show off their ddos mitigations

[signal parrot]

So I take the maven artifact and paste it into the spigot api and I got the library?

[limber knot]

wat

no, you replace it in your pom.xml

[signal parrot]

What did you mean

[visual egret]

what are you trying to do

[limber knot]

what dependency management system did you use until now?

[wraith trail]

inb4 I just drag the jar to my ide

[signal parrot]

In tutorials I see that they are using a spigot.jar to get the methods that you can use to make a plugin with. But I want to use the paper.jar to make a paper plugin. (Am I lost, read up on this on the web but did not get it)

[visual egret]

um

are you using maven or gradle

[signal parrot]

Like, I get how you make a server with the use of the paper jar

[spare venture]

Just use the IntelliJ plugin for Minecraft

[visual egret]

you put it into your maven/gradle dependencies

[spare venture]

It sets everything up for you

[formal turret]

the eve harbinger ah yes

[signal parrot]

And then I want to use the paper.jar as a dependency

[spare venture]

Apples auto correct gets worse every day

[signal parrot]

for the plugin

[wraith trail]

what IDE do you use?

and do you want to use maven or gradle, if you don't know, just say so

[signal parrot]

I use intelliJ

[wraith trail]

ok, go to plugins, search minecraft

get "Minecraft dev for intellij" or whatever its called

[signal parrot]

ok

Have done it

[limber knot]

if you are using a tutorial which is not using maven/gradle then find a better one lol

[wraith trail]

ok, then you can just create a new project, select "minecraft" and go through that thing

will set up maven/gradle for you

[signal parrot]

Ok, what do I choose, maven or gradle?

[golden gust]

maven is probably much easier for beginners

[wraith trail]

well depends which you are familiar with/want to use

[golden gust]

gradle makes even seniors cry

[wraith trail]

but yeah maven is much more documented

[signal parrot]

What is maven and gradle exactly?

I will use maven

[golden gust]

build/dependency management tools

speaking of tools, hi sulu

[wraith trail]

smh

[woven otter]

gradle is hot

maven belongs in trash

[golden gust]

Duck

if you don't shut up

I'm going for Chinese

[vestal jasper]

Duck is hot. 🔥

@#2128 dinner.

?

Discord?

@#8869 @#6018

[woven otter]

cat if you swap duck with cat it still works out

[vestal jasper]

Those are discrims, discord.

Where's the name lol

[woven otter]

@vestal jasper

[golden gust]

There are times where I wish discord had winks

[mental meadow]

wink

[golden gust]

so I got have like a geeet fucked thing

[vestal jasper]

😉

[woven otter]

😉

[golden gust]

like, one done by a canaderp

winks

😉

Fucking gen z

[vestal jasper]

😜

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqGJUKaaLU4

[zealous wedge]

gradle makes me cry

[vestal jasper]

Gradle makes me cry

[mental meadow]

gradle killed my father

[signal parrot]

What is GroupId and ArtifactId?

[vestal jasper]

Gradle killed my puppy and stole my car.

[golden gust]

group: io.paper artifact: paper-api

basically, follow that kinda pattern

[limber knot]

that's added automatically with the dev plugin though?

[golden gust]

ofc, use your own

[limber knot]

oh you mean for your own plugin

[olive garden]

MTM123 is a sinner,
so roasted duck is my dinner

[limber knot]

just use your.package.path and "pluginname"

[young robin]

This is the only rtp plugin I can find for spigot, and the documentation isn't the best so I'm wondering about the max and min radius. Is that centered on where the player is rtp-ing from, or from spawn? https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/random-teleport-wilderness-1-14-4-a-must-for-factions-and-survival-servers.22835/

[wraith trail]

This is the only rtp plugin I can find for spigot
really?

.g robomwm random teleport

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://dev.bukkit.org/search?search=random+teleport

[wraith trail]

.g dark eyed dragon random teleport

[vestal jasper]

There's way more than 1 on spigot

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Teleport_Dark_Armed

[wraith trail]

there are hundreds

wow that resullt was awful

[limber knot]

.g phoenix616 randomteleport

(phoenix616) https://github.com/Phoenix616/RandomTeleport

[zealous wedge]

EssX even has rtp

[wraith trail]

heh yours actually works

[limber knot]

mine is obviously the best

runs

[young robin]

Yeah but I tend to go for Spigot plugins when I can

[limber knot]

this is Paper sir

[wraith trail]

what do you mean by that?

[limber knot]

he's unable/unwilling to read apparently

[young robin]

Whenever possible, I try to find the Spigot version of a plugin since Bukkit is very old

[wraith trail]

bukkit actually audits plugins

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/wilderness-tp.22853/

[zealous wedge]

wat

[wraith trail]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/random-teleport-full-nether-support.76021/

[young robin]

I'm unwilling to read what?

[wraith trail]

thats what I was referring to, hundreds of them

[limber knot]

update dates in this case

[zealous wedge]

nothing about dbo is inherently old

[young robin]

What's dbo?

[wraith trail]

dev.bukkit.org

[young robin]

Alright, so is there an rtp plugin you all would recommend?

[zealous wedge]

scroll up

read

[wraith trail]

well there are a number of people here who maintain them

[vestal jasper]

Each person has their preference

[olive garden]

phoenix's, Robo's and DarkEyeDragon's should work fine

[wraith trail]

and there is fierce competition to have full rtp dominance

[limber knot]

I would recommend mine, I made it how I like it and I'm using it myself!

[young robin]

Alright, so there's no king like there is with luckyperms and essentials?

[limber knot]

;D

[olive garden]

look them up on bstats, see how many servers use them

[vestal jasper]

Luckperms

[limber knot]

it's the perfect plugin for anyone who is me!

[young robin]

Getting the bot thing in your user is an impressive flex

[wraith trail]

doesn't essentials even include rtp?

[limber knot]

smh

[zealous wedge]

literally EssentialsX has its own random tp

[young robin]

Does it?

Well alright

[zealous wedge]

if you want something basic

[limber knot]

it's pretty limited 👀

[young robin]

Eh.. depends how basic

[limber knot]

at that point you can just use vanillas

[wraith trail]

well, read the docs, else look above

[vestal jasper]

Phoenix tryina get in

[wraith trail]

three by people here have been linked

[young robin]

I need to limit it to a radius and have it work in other dims too

[olive garden]

phoenix's RTP is like a template for clean code & async chunk loading

last time I checked at least

[limber knot]

just don't look at v1 👀

[young robin]

No need to be rude, I'm asking here because I couldn't find a consensus online so I'm asking here

[vestal jasper]

You can also just test them out and see which one YOU like

[olive garden]

he was not rude

[young robin]

I know, but sometimes it's worth asking in a discord first so you don't waste your time with stupid plugins when there's one that everyone and their mother uses

[golden gust]

"hey guys can you recommend me the best X" is really tiring

[olive garden]

I prefer lowercase x

[young robin]

Not in every case, but alright

[vestal jasper]

Yes. The thing is you asked and kept asking after getting the answer :)

[golden gust]

like, there is a search feature to see the last time we had that boring convo

[zealous wedge]

hey cat can you recommend me the best cat?

[limber knot]

"x? you should use y!"

[vestal jasper]

Phoenix I'm a Z kinda person.

[limber knot]

oof

[young robin]

Jesus christ, alright forget I asked. Didn't realize a bunch of teens run this discord

[zealous wedge]

uwu vic

[vestal jasper]

Not @upper flicker though he stinks

[limber knot]

welcome to the internet

[olive garden]

ban

[wraith trail]

I wasn't meaning to be rude, just outline that different things are for different people and that I was unfamiliar with the essentials one beyond its existence.

[vestal jasper]

zml is the good z

[wraith trail]

hence your need to check the docs and see if it would fit your use case

[upper flicker]

I see how it is

[golden gust]

There are several dozen plugins with several dozen plugins, many having their own stupid aspects of them

the expectation that we're gonna maintain a list for every single type of plugin is tiring

[vestal jasper]

You stink I don't fall victim to your guild trips @#0750

Guilt

And ty discord

[olive garden]

something ain't working out for you today josh

[golden gust]

There's a search feature in discord too which allows you to see the past dozen 200 convos of 'what X should I use"

[vestal jasper]

@#0750 @#0750 @#0750 @#0750 @#0750

[limber knot]

looks like someone is using a broken third party client 👀

[olive garden]

let me guess, IRC still works

[limber knot]

oh does that look sane on dumcord? lol

[limber knot]

irc always works fine

[vestal jasper]

Beta android client but nice guess phoenix

[limber knot]

I'm unsure why you screenshotted that

[vestal jasper]

The paragraph tho

[olive garden]

want me to clear up the confusion?

I'm probably better of pretending I didn't screenshot it though

[limber knot]

some things will always be a mystery

[woven otter]

at least i dont work with 1.7.10

[young robin]

Ok, you guys are repeating yourselves now and I don't really want to drag this out so I'm gonna say this and then I'm done with this conversation, ban or kick me if you want:

1. I understand there are more than one plugin for everything you want, but not all plugins are equal and in some categories there are winners that aren't even close to their counterparts. that is all I was asking for because I haven't managed a spigot server in years and don't know where the status quo is.
2. I know I can read docs, I'm not asking you to do my job for me, I asked a few basic questions and recommendations
3. The way you guys listed those plugins did not come across as your recommendations but just trying to show you can find a plugin easily. If those are your recommendations I'll look into them

You guys run things however you want but man there were better ways to handle this, 'welcome to the internet' or not

[vestal jasper]

Why are you still arguing? Go, test out some plugins and find the one you like. Sitting here's just gonna be more conflict. @young robin We gave some good examples.

Just check them out

That's all they really wanted

[limber knot]

the main issue is that you can't recommend plugins where dozens exist in good faith

[olive garden]

just ignore haters @young robin

[vestal jasper]

Just check them out instead of sitting here arguing.

[golden gust]

You're in the social channel, not the help channel

[spare venture]

🍿

[golden gust]

we also ask that you use the search feature first

[limber knot]

wow, a message so long it had to be paste.gg'd

[olive garden]

want me to send each word in its own message?

[limber knot]

also fuck this PC shit where people expect to be treated nicely when they can't take a hint

[golden gust]

"can you guys tell me the best X" where X is a plugin which people ask for recommendations practically almost every single day

[spare venture]

if u cant understand even that then i dont want to explain it to you. not everyone is a natural programmer that wants to learn the complexities of java vs skript.

[golden gust]

I mean, maybe being ill makes me more senile, but, like, it's just tiring af

[woven otter]

drama is nice

we need more of that

[olive garden]

you can always choose to ignore shit

like how I ignore duck

[mental meadow]

duck sucks

[woven otter]

u r both ugly

🙂

[young robin]

You know what, I'm glad I asked this early on. Knowing the kind of people who run Paper before the server migration is really useful

[olive garden]

that's pretty wild coming from you duck

[limber knot]

lol

"running paper"

[woven otter]

pretty wild coming from a guy working with 1.7.10

[limber knot]

almost only community responses

[golden gust]

I literally just asked that you use the ctrl-f before asking a question

[limber knot]

[golden gust]

if that's such a massive detriment to you, yes, you're in the wrong community

[olive garden]

paper 2.0 is not 2.0 enough for somebody 👀

[limber knot]

wait, you expect people to do their own research when they want to run a server? are you insane cat?

can't expect much from people who ask for help in the shitposting channel

[woven otter]

paper 1.0 when

[spare venture]

@static badge I apologize for the joke, it was just a joke. I like you as a person and although you are mean to me (most of the time) I still do see some good in you. So I apologize for the joke, I simply needed SOMEONE and the only person I could think of was you, since you were the only other one I saw active recently. I hope this doesn't affect our relationship.

[woven otter]

@static badge fuk u leaf

[olive garden]

when are you gonna invent a time machine duck?

lmao wat

[woven otter]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[olive garden]

have you been drinking?

[woven otter]

i wish

[spare venture]

who duck?

[woven otter]

I have been on low sleep diet tho

[olive garden]

well obviously not you

[limber knot]

no u

[olive garden]

you're underage

[spare venture]

wtf

how old do you think I am

[olive garden]

15

[woven otter]

no party when you're underage

[spare venture]

[olive garden]

well, prove that you aren't

[spare venture]

I’m an unemployed college graduate

[olive garden]

what's your social security number?

[limber knot]

send id

[olive garden]

really?

[spare venture]

538-01-4359

[olive garden]

the fuck are you unemployed for

[mental meadow]

party is at least 500

[olive garden]

what did you graduate as?

[spare venture]

because it is hard to get a job right now

[formal turret]

to run minecraft servers of course

[limber knot]

ya just get a job 5head

[woven otter]

tell me your card number and the three digits on the back of the card so I can verify

[minor badge]

hewwo zml

[spare venture]

in the worst job market in 100 years

[mental meadow]

Minecraft Server CEO studies

[olive garden]

what was your major? or whatever it's called in that probably stupid country you graduated in

[limber knot]

hi proxiii

[spare venture]

chemical engineering

[minor badge]

[mental meadow]

trigary is being nice again i see

[spare venture]

yup

[olive garden]

oh that sounds like something interesting

[spare venture]

in the USA

[olive garden]

told you it was stupid

[limber knot]

sounds like an industry that hadn't been made mostly illegal

[formal turret]

are you in texas party?

[spare venture]

no

[formal turret]

oh well nevermind

[limber knot]

move to Texas

[spare venture]

why

[minor badge]

move to sweden

[formal turret]

lots of chem companies in houston i think

[mental meadow]

chemical engineering? you could try work for a pharma company, I heard they make a lot of money rn

[spare venture]

Yeah

I almost got a job at Procter and gamble until they chose someone else

[mental meadow]

probably bc you didnt include partyrealms in your cv

[woven otter]

you could work as rich people. I heard they make a lot of money

[mossy vessel]

🤯

[wide chasm]

Study shows millionaires have a million or more

[zealous wedge]

barty, how does it feel to be a chemical

[golden gust]

Our biggest supplier afaik is literally doing vaccines at cost price

[spare venture]

uh I don’t know

[golden gust]

and the EU wanted to bargin on the price

[woven otter]

studies show that rich people are not poor

[mental meadow]

the trick is to not make vaccines but everything else

so many people buy like cold medicine rn

[olive garden]

is this "European Union is bad" time again?

[spare venture]

Yeah I’ve been trying to look for companies that are benefitting from the pandemic

[golden gust]

I mean, they literally tried to block the vaccine being sent to ireland...

[spare venture]

Companies that sell cleaning supplies and pharmaceuticals

[olive garden]

you mean the EU has standards, or...?

[woven otter]

dw pandemic will soon be over

[olive garden]

yeah sure duck

[mental meadow]

tomorrow

[golden gust]

All because they where upset that they took 3 months to sigh a contract and pay for the vaccine on their side, meaning that they're suffering from all the teething problems our UK factories had and solved over the 3 months

[mental meadow]

i bet it

[spare venture]

If a year is soon

Duck time

[golden gust]

I mean, I was on the fence on brexit, more leaning against because of the free travel aspects, etc, are kinda nice

But, I really want the EU to flop

[limber knot]

I mean, didn't they sign a contract and have to fullfil that? I doN#t get how they can legally prioritize one customer over another lol

[mental meadow]

#politics

[olive garden]

someone wants to see the world burn 👀

[woven otter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc1vrO6iL0U
reminds me of this

[limber knot]

if we flop we take you with us anyways, cat

[golden gust]

They took 3 months to sign the contract and pay the bill, meaning that the EU factories are behind on solving their supply chain issues, etc

[limber knot]

your little stunt of leaving us wont help you if the channel burns :P

[olive garden]

it's like the mafia - you can't get out lmao

[limber knot]

so they deliver from the UK factories? no problem in my eyes

it's one company, not multiple

[golden gust]

basically, the EU took too long to sign an agreement and get stuff done, and decided to try to put others lives at risks because they wanted what they want

[limber knot]

if they aren't able to deliver what they signed a contract for then it's just a breach of contact and they'll have to deal with the concequences ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[olive garden]

well, while we are at it, everyone fucked up in retrospect (at least as far as we know today) compared to Israel

[golden gust]

They aren't able to deliver because the EU fucked up on their end

[limber knot]

imo we should just force companies to produce shit and sort out the money later but we never get that with neo-liberals/conservatives being in power lol

[golden gust]

you can't expect a company to run around tryna skuffle because you took 3 months to sign the agreement and pa

y

They gotta build the factories

[olive garden]

it's called wartime operation, and yes, you can do that

[golden gust]

they gotta purchase materials

they gotta ship the materials to the factories

[limber knot]

then the company shouldn't have signed the contract if there were such issues?

[golden gust]

it's literally the exact same shit with any new manf op

shit happens

[olive garden]

manf?

[golden gust]

if you push forward the start date too close to when you want stuff from it, you get hit by the teething problems of manufactoring

[worn ember]

bri ish

[golden gust]

the UK had the exact same issues tryna get our own supply chain into place

[worn ember]

same here

theres capacity, but not enough supplies

[olive garden]

are you saying that manf means british?

[waxen panther]

all my homies hate england

[worn ember]

no i'm saying its probably some bri ish thing

[olive garden]

oh

I don't speak briish

[mental meadow]

brocc move in with me

[waxen panther]

okay

[mental meadow]

uwu

[mossy vessel]

[waxen panther]

[olive garden]

manufacturing it is then

[golden gust]

yea, that

am too ill to spell that word

[olive garden]

:/

[mental meadow]

manifacutingr

[worn ember]

Make a Noise Foundation

[hazy marlin]

Anyone know where I can find like loads of symbols I can use in game?

Like I'm mainly looking for a heart one

[golden gust]

google it™ if I can say that without getting shot..

there was a list or something somewhere that I came across

[worn ember]

https://www.alt-codes.net/ not sure if you mean these?

[golden gust]

it's more specifically, what does the MC font come with

[mental meadow]

hearts work with it

[golden gust]

Like, you can go grab them off that page and theyll work in general

[worn ember]

most of them work, not all tho

[golden gust]

but, there's no promise that the font that vanilla comes with supports it

Not really, most don't don't work

[olive garden]

maybe you can look into the default locale file and see which symbols are supported

idk

[golden gust]

Depends on what type of range you'relooking at

[hazy marlin]

ok I'll have a look at them

[olive garden]

I don't even know how this shit works since they added support for all this cool extra stuff

[mental meadow]

hearts work fine 😄

[golden gust]

i mean, it's text

Just, the font needs to actually have that character in it

[woven otter]

simp

[olive garden]

100+ open PRs (these are sirens for those of us who don't have discord nitro)

[woven otter]

yes deal with my PR please

[olive garden]

did you finish it yet?

[woven otter]

I'm waiting on comments

[olive garden]

oh good luck lmao

[woven otter]

yeah i figured

[golden gust]

I'd look but I'm ill

woooo

[woven otter]

how can I help you cat

[worn ember]

just stop being ill

ez clap

[olive garden]

thank you for the life hack

[worn ember]

sick rate drops to 0%

[woven otter]

"man cures illness. doctors speechless"

[hazy marlin]

What I've got so far

[olive garden]

that heart looks thin

[hazy marlin]

yea

I'm going to look for some others

[worn ember]

enlarge your pp cure all illness with this one simple trick

make it bold

[hazy marlin]

ah

[worn ember]

also theres a wide heart i think

[visual egret]

what happens if a woman does it

[woven otter]

Man CURES illness with this SIMPLE TRICK. Doctors HATE HIM

[olive garden]

this looks thick

[worn ember]

yeah i think those are different ones

[woven otter]

so does your mom 😉

[worn ember]

theres 2 heart symbols

[cosmic raft]

simply don't be sick

problem solved

[olive garden]

leave my family alone already

[hazy marlin]

LMAO

[olive garden]

that ain't a heart

[worn ember]

we already established that lol

[woven otter]

kashike is late 😦

[hazy marlin]

what happens when you make it bold

[woven otter]

send pics

[worn ember]

yeah its a diff heart then

[olive garden]

and if I may say so fantom, that boss bar looks digusting

[hazy marlin]

Yea it's on my test server

so isn't really up to date

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/A6-zH1rojws

[woven otter]

why arent you that guy ded

[worn ember]

cuz i'm stuck in the 3k trench

[woven otter]

git gud

[golden gust]

power on Uhhhh

bluetooth mode Ohhh yea bby

[woven otter]

when you play 20 hours a day they call you addicted when you make money playing they call you dedicated

[hazy marlin]

There we go

[golden gust]

you an addict but you slayin' and who am I to complain

[spare venture]

Enjoy!

[hazy marlin]

Is there a way to display a heart animation? or will that need to be done with resource packs

[magic river]

animation?

[hazy marlin]

I'll fine a example

[olive garden]

do you want the heart char to change to another char every few ticks?

[magic river]

If you mean particle effects I think villagers do something like that you could trigger

[spare venture]

I assume he means it changes based on the health

But we are all just assuming because he didn’t explain anything

[magic river]

You could change the color based on the health but not the shape

[olive garden]

animal breeding makes hearts iirc

[spare venture]

There are probably other Unicode heart chars

Like a broken heart one

[magic river]

https://unicode-table.com/en/sets/heart-symbols/

[spare venture]

Alternatively just use a resource pack!

Resource packs are 🥺

[magic river]

I bet even if Minecraft supports more than one of those they all just look the same

[olive garden]

> animation
> sends an image

[magic river]

To get half hearts you'd need a resource pack

[olive garden]

ohhh

lmao

[worn ember]

trig u dum dum

[spare venture]

Lol imagine not being able to read their mind

[magic river]

To get the animation the bar does when you take damage I don't know what you'd do, I guess put all the frames in the resource pack and rapidly switch between them to make it look animated

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon 🥺

[twin lagoon]

[minor badge]

you can be my little pogchamp

[spare venture]

It would be trivial with a resource pack and a placeholder that uses it

[twin lagoon]

ur my fat miku

[minor badge]

hot

[woven otter]

hot

[twin lagoon]

[woven otter]

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/csDRdqMH3Kk this dude was lucky

[golden gust]

Yea, I saw that other day, guy had soo many things go right for him, jesus

[olive garden]

Michael, since you seem to be a WSL expert, do you know of a simple and reliable way to make my Windows -> WSL "localhost IP" be static? The server is hosted on WSL and I'm trying to connect from windows

[golden gust]

well, other week

configure a static IP in the WSL container

depends on how theyre doing networking

otherwise you'd need to figure out where the windows stuff does the DHCP stuff

[olive garden]

modifying DHCP is exactly what I did not mean by "simple"

[magic river]

https://github.com/shayne/go-wsl2-host

[olive garden]

ain't fan of that

[magic river]

Doesn't make it static, it's like dyndns but for your local system

[olive garden]

but ty

[magic river]

The alternative would be to set up the VM in bridge mode and give it a static IP via your router

[olive garden]

god damn it people

what the hell do you consider "simple"

[mental meadow]

giving the WSL network adapter a static IP doesn't seem to work

[worn ember]

Microsoft: Working

pick one

[magic river]

The problem is if you use the hyper-v NAT setup (the default) the gateway IP for the VM is going to change every reboot still

[golden gust]

that's... dumb...

[magic river]

So you can't just configure your VM to give itself a static IP and have things work

[worn ember]

you sure about that one?

[magic river]

Pretty sure

[mental meadow]

yea

[worn ember]

shouldnt change if you just set the ip yourself

[magic river]

"Default gateway" is going to be different every time

[mental meadow]

that doesnt work ded

[magic river]

But you need it to be correct in order to get out of the VM

If you just used straight Hyper-V you could configure this but WSL2 your only option is to use bridge mode, apparently

[worn ember]

smh

networking in general sucks, and windows loves to make it even harder

[woven otter]

everything in general sucks, and windows loves to make it even harder

[worn ember]

ok mr despresso

[olive garden]

okay that's too much for my WSL

these slimes are suicidal

[worn ember]

why are you mass murdering slimes

[olive garden]

science TM

[worn ember]

Understandable, have a nice day

[olive garden]

oof

[worn ember]

that escalated quickly

[olive garden]

oh apparently slime sizes above 1024 cause the server to hang

[hazy marlin]

...

My friend just said that java is like scratch

[woven otter]

what science

[olive garden]

they are both programming languages :)

[hazy marlin]

Well yea

[olive garden]

with a different target audience, but that might be besides the point

[magic river]

Isn't scratch like blueprints in unreal engine?

You drop blocks someone else programmed in, connect inputs to outputs, and maybe tune configuration parameters

[olive garden]

well, they are both visual programming languages

so on some level, yeah, they are similar

tbh I have used neither

the only visual programming I have done was LEGO Mindstorms :)

[magic river]

oh hey scratch is like that zachtronics game

I think it was zachtronics anyway, you programmed a robot to take things from conveyor belts or something

[worn ember]

since when is this a thing

[magic river]

1.13

[worn ember]

well then

[visual egret]

Whats a good claims system? (Im looking for something that is just cosmetic but doesent do claims, for example towny with some configuration)

[olive garden]

what the actual fuck cat

this is some record speed

PR merged in 3 minutes

[magic river]

I guess it wasn't zachtronics, it was from the world of goo folks

https://store.steampowered.com/app/375820/Human_Resource_Machine/

Steam

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[olive garden]

oh, that

zachtronics was a good guess though, basically all of their games are logic puzzles

[worn ember]

i love that game

i love all their games tbh

interesting stories

[olive garden]

since when do they have stories lol

"aliens took you"

"food cubes"

"work"

[magic river]

Technically World of Goo was a different company but the two who made it are a part of the (iirc) 3 man team that is Tomorrow Corporation

7 Billion Humans is like a sequel where you have to deal with parallel programming

[olive garden]

huh, haven't heard of that

but that sounds really interesting

should probably just finish reading Concurrency in Practice instead though lmao

[worn ember]

[magic river]

Wow, you can't just luck your way in to a solution that happens to work once either

Once you get a solution it reruns it 25 times with random variations

[olive garden]

25 ain't that much tbh

but if they deemed it enough...

they probably know what they are doing :)

[merry talon]

the best Tomorrow Corp game is little inferno

[twin lagoon]

yes

fantastic game

[olive marlin]

Michael

[spiral robin]

@mossy vessel 😳

[spare venture]

nice finger get doxed lol

[worn ember]

is that plotsquared spam mail?

[mossy vessel]

Awesome

[spiral robin]

tyyy

I'm not sure what to do with them yet

[twin lagoon]

no

both

any forge bukkit hybrid is ass

yes

w/ sponge

[wraith trail]

forge + bukkit just does not work

use either one or the other. Alternative is sponge + forge as Michael said. There is really just no sane other way

[worn ember]

most important plugins exist in mod form

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limber knot]

wuts goin on here

[worn ember]

Nucleus is the luckperms of sponge i think

[twin lagoon]

essentials*

[limber knot]

spooge bad

[worn ember]

oh

well just browse Ore ig

[limber knot]

sponge is basically heavily biased with forge

spongevanilla looks really sidelined

[cosmic raft]

https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1357690442553434114

Xbox (@Xbox)

Gaming brings us together, no matter how many generations apart.

When everybody plays, we all win. https://t.co/lzj0BH1tOl

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wrong robo

[wraith trail]

does luckperms not have a sponge version?

could have sworn it did

[cosmic raft]

SpongeVanilla is the only thing that exists with 1.16.5 currently :-)

[golden gust]

it does

[limber knot]

rip kinect

[worn ember]

inb4 granny flames the 12 year old for sucking ass

[limber knot]

o interesting

last I checked I barely saw mention of spongevanilla other than a download

[worn ember]

why isnt essentialsx on sponge smh

[olive garden]

is rtp on sponge yet?

[worn ember]

soon™️

i'm pretty much done with the abstraction now

[limber knot]

I mean I recently ported my resource packs plugin to sponge, maybe I should port my RTP too

[worn ember]

so just gotta implement the sponge version

[limber knot]

runs

[worn ember]

if you want to bother with that, be my guest, but i sure hated abstracting the shit out of it

[limber knot]

actually I don't want to, lol. abstracting anything that touches blocks/entities on the server is just annoying af

[worn ember]

i just copy bukkit their ways and adjust them to my needs lul

so far it has worked

we'll see how that works out when i get to sponge

[limber knot]

I mean if I really run a sponge server one day maybe then I will bother with that lol

I think I should finish v2 first before trying to completely rewrite it again lol

[worn ember]

write v2 with that in mind

ez

[olive marlin]

I need to buy a new PC asap. My RAM is dying and my CPU gets to 100 degrees while compiling my Discord bot...

[worn ember]

kek

[golden gust]

oof

[spare venture]

my laptop is slowly dying

gonna steal one of the 5800x that my roommate has laying around and build a pc

[untold meadow]

@ trigary ty for invincible slime fix xoxoxo

[olive garden]

Lol

Now you can remove an if statement

Np

[untold meadow]

lmao yup, if statement moved to another place

[brave radish]

hmm.. has anyone made a forge mod to run bukkit plugins?

[wraith trail]

well there are things like magma, but they are horrible

[golden gust]

Yes, they all generally flop or suck for plugin compat in varying ways

[worn ember]

why do we have this conversation every week

[magic river]

Yes, people have tried to make a forge mod that implements the bukkit api a few times

[zealous wedge]

they technically work

[worn ember]

thing is plugins dont account for modded items, so they just bypass it anyway

[magic river]

Turns out doing that is hard and then no one wants to use it anyway because popular plugins aren't actually plugins and depend on the deobfuscation CraftBukkit uses

[worn ember]

making it pointless

[zealous wedge]

but none of the current projects have the right combination of knowledge and stubbornness to make something actually functional

[magic river]

Give up before you start and just use sponge 😛

Odds are none of the plugins you want to use with Bukkit will work anyway

Yeah skin plugins definitely won't work with something built on top of forge

Unless it's a remake of cauldron maybe

[worn ember]

or just dont

[magic river]

Account for them by letting them run around as Steve and Alex

[worn ember]

and tell them to buy the game or fck off

[stiff yarrow]

perhaps your friends are bad

[magic river]

Or I guess it'd be all of you are Steve and Alex

But whatever, you get to play with your friends

[minor badge]

i would like to submit my refusal to pay my electricity bill

thank you for footing it

[magic river]

Just consider it like playing Bedrock

[worn ember]

yeah well thats their problem isnt it

[minor badge]

let's throw in my rent while we're at it

[merry cave]

CPU unrelated minimum amount of ram required to run a decent test server?

3gb?

[worn ember]

sure

[minor badge]

.try

[brave radish]

It's a game that took 11 years to build, I think Mojang can get their pay. My only objection is that the MC community does more work fixing their game and modding it then they do making it

[minor badge]

korobi still dead

😔

[twin lagoon]

proxi 😔

[minor badge]

https://tryitands.ee/

[merry cave]

what would that have returned 😉

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon 🥺

[merry cave]

lol

[brave radish]

you can by disabling offline mode

[worn ember]

you can force them not to play on you server then 🙂

i dont go out of my way to support friends that dont buy games lol

[brave radish]

I'm all for Geyser cuz that's not stealing and most Bedrock players got scammed anyway not knowing what they were buying

[worn ember]

if they want to join they either crack it and make it work for mp or buy it

🙂

you are tho

[brave radish]

.

.

[worn ember]

now you're forced to add plugins and you are forced to switch software cuz of it

[brave radish]

.

[worn ember]

but you do you

dont expect support for offline servers

[brave radish]

So many people refuse to accept when offline mode is actually the cause of the problems they're asking about and think everyone is just toying with them to stop using it

[foggy elbow]

Hey guys, what do you think about hetzner ?
(stability, ddos protection), I'm currently at OVH with a Xeon e-2288g and I just saw the new hetzner with "Ryzen 9 5950x"
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax101/

and I really want it, but I don't know if they would be good ^^

[wraith trail]

well, there are some people here who will blame things on offline mode when it is 100% not the issue and couldn't even be confused

so in some contexts its understandable to a point

[worn ember]

ive used it for a good while now for a cheap cloud server, havent had any issues with it

not sure how good their servers are for mc tho

[topaz mortar]

I only blame users with outdated mc version.

[wraith trail]

Hetzner is normally fine if you don't care about NA clients, ddos protection isn't really existent though

[foggy elbow]

I would get tcpshield

[wraith trail]

then thats a non issue

[foggy elbow]

and compared to a xeon x-2288g

I'm mitigated

[topaz mortar]

Hetzner has a relatively good connection to Frankfurt. Is relatively cheap compared to OVH.
Can't say more.

[wraith trail]

it can be super inconstant for NA clients, so if you are there it would be a major consideration

[brave radish]

Zulu supporting java 17 till 2030? that's a big commitment

[magic river]

"music television"

[foggy elbow]

I'm from france

[wraith trail]

ridiculousness taking up 3/4 of their schedule

never even heard of it

[brave radish]

*goes to go outside for first time ever* *is raining*

this is why people don't go outside

[spare venture]

It’s been on forever

It’s tosh.o basically

It’s always on haha

[minor sequoia]

why tf was shane banned here im so confused

[void void]

[golden gust]

We don't comment on peoples bans

[void void]

can we comment on ur cuteness

[stiff yarrow]

where can I see this cuteness

[meager tusk]

yo didn't have to do em like that

[void void]

look in a mirror

[zealous wedge]

rain is lovely :(

[void void]

what do the things in ur name mean

[stiff yarrow]

its preferred pronouns

[foggy elbow]

Is anyone hosted in hetzner here ?

[void void]

what is that

[foggy elbow]

an host

[olive marlin]

I did host there.

[waxen panther]

hetzner is epic

[olive marlin]

Can fully recommend if you don't have NA players.

Or, I guess if you use TCPShield, it should be better.

[foggy elbow]

I hesitate to switch from ovh to hetzner
(I'm from france and using tcpshield)

What would be the best :

• xeon e-2288g
• ryzen 5 5950x

[olive marlin]

I'm considering switching back to hetzner.

[foggy elbow]

I think amd would be prettyyy better but not sure

[foggy elbow]

you were at hetzner and now ovh ?

[wraith trail]

a 5950x would be kinda epic

[spare venture]

Why would you switch from OVH to hetzner

[wraith trail]

wish I could get one of them in NA

[olive marlin]

Yes.

[foggy elbow]

going from a xeon e-2288g to ryzen 9 5950x

[olive marlin]

I don't see that much added value from going OVH instead of Hetzner.

Hetzner is cheaper.

[foggy elbow]

ddos protection

[olive marlin]

And with tcpshield I shouldn't have NA player issues, since it'd go through OVH network anyway iirc.

[spare venture]

OVH has a better better IIRC

Better network

[waxen panther]

ah yes

better better

[spare venture]

Better hardware and cooling

[stiff yarrow]

better better you say

[spare venture]

Yup

Better network, better hardware, better cooling, NA locations

[waxen panther]

NA locations are the only real benefit tbh lol

they're one of the best providers, even michael loves them

and michael is KING

[spare venture]

Ask him hetzner vs OVH then

[twin lagoon]

hello

if you're going from ovh to hetzner for ddos protection you're fucking stupid

[wraith trail]

goodbye Michael

[twin lagoon]

@mental meadow

[mental meadow]

uwu

[topaz mortar]

Good night cuties

[mental meadow]

good night

[foggy elbow]

But I got tcpshield

I hope I won't issues

[twin lagoon]

i personally wouldn't be moving from an e2288g

[foggy elbow]

you think xeon 2288g is better than 5950x ?

[twin lagoon]

no i'm saying it's not worth upgrading

[foggy elbow]

2x cheaper

[wraith trail]

where are you paying 200 euro for a 2288g?

[twin lagoon]

^

[foggy elbow]

yes with 128go ram