general

[vernal moth]

block editors might be better for your usecase

[woven otter]

just use chrome developer tools

[vernal moth]

editor.js for example

[tepid fulcrum]

is there any placeholder

to check on what server is player on (bad english)

i use bungeecord

and i want to add this placeholder to my tablisyn plugin

[cunning raft]

placeholders are not provided by the proxy

if you want help you'll need to;

1. goto #paper-help
2. say the name of the tablist plugin

[woven otter]

pogroy

[cunning raft]

that's actually a cool plugin idea

intercept all packets on the proxy that have components

fill placeholders

[meager tusk]

ooh that is a cool idea

[cunning raft]

would have a lot of overhead

well some

since you'd need to decompress and recompress packets

[woven otter]

i had somewhat similar idea for localization tho the performance would probably suck balls.

[olive garden]

that situation can utilize multiple threads, so that doesn't really matter

well, it would introduce some latency

but MC uses TCP, so who cares about that?

[tight saddle]

Alright well I'm seriously stumped lol. I tried several random respawn plugins, and none of them seem to work with the Nether properly.
My goal is to randomly respawn people in the Nether if they die.

The biggest problem with all the respawn plugins I found is

They respawn you in the Nether if you set the world to it, but on top of bedrock :/

[olive garden]

lmao

[wraith trail]

probably just using the highest point so it won't spawn you in caves

[worn ember]

thanks, sorry was in a meeting

[wraith trail]

you'd probably just want to use the highest point below 100 or something for nether

[limber knot]

Crystalwarrior, not mine c:

[wide pond]

hi folks im looking for good documentation on how to use ssh keys and configure the firewall properly on my server before i start installing paper

[twin lagoon]

.g setup ssh keys digitalocean

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys-2

[twin lagoon]

.g setup ufw digitalocean

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-setup-a-firewall-with-ufw-on-an-ubuntu-and-debian-cloud-server

[spiral robin]

[ashen cliff]

Bruh.

https://posili.me/i/2021-02-03_18-01-10.gif

[spiral robin]

hahahaha

wow

[ashen cliff]

Netgate has lost it's JS privilege now:
https://posili.me/i/2021-02-03_18-01-49.png

[wraith trail]

pfsense is fine, but their concept of being "open source" and how much they market that is complete bs

[ashen cliff]

Their website isn't fine.

And TNSR is also BS.

[wide pond]

Thank you @twin lagoon

[minor badge]

@vernal moth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz5ADI4glnY I think you'll find this... interesting

[meager tusk]

i can understand some of that

i'm officially german

[mental meadow]

rtl eww

[mossy vessel]

I've already watched it :P

But go ahead before ima spoil you

[vernal moth]

assuming I am not subscribed to simpli

@minor badge pls

[minor badge]

😔

[vernal moth]

one of the few good german channels we have, lol

[mossy vessel]

^^

[minor badge]

:D

[mossy vessel]

alongside kurzgesagt one of my fav channels for a while

[vernal moth]

english kurzgesagt > german one tho

[mossy vessel]

watches both

[vernal moth]

I do to

to be reminded of the english one when its translated later 😄

[meager tusk]

this guy's like the german lemmino

[vernal moth]

(kurzgesagt gets paid by basically the gov to translate vids back to german nowadays)

[mossy vessel]

The small part why the GEZ is not totally bad ;p

[vernal moth]

its not called GEZ anymore

its "Gebührenservice der ARD und des ZDF"

sorry

throw deutschlandradio into the mix too

[mental meadow]

mini being german

[vernal moth]

I had fellow students in uni working for "beitragsservice" how its called in short

[golden gust]

Typical mini, really

[vernal moth]

my mom wanted me to do my study there, as its really close to my parents home

but I refused because I knew that thats where ppl go that have nowhere else to go

[spare venture]

add a donator role

[vernal moth]

and first day at uni, I was placing bets with the other 3 from my company who were from beitragsservice, I found both, but I placed my bet on three

[mossy vessel]

oic

The former term sounds more friendly lol

(in pronunciation)

[vernal moth]

oh course

that was the point

lol

GEZ is Gebühreneinzugszentrale

thats like, not friendly at all

thats why its now a service

wow google maps is quick at updating images

[olive garden]

is your home on google maps yet?

[vernal moth]

the killed some trees here on monday

and the map is already updated with new images

[olive garden]

almost guessed it

[vernal moth]

thats insane

[ashen cliff]

Isn't the German street view empty AF?

[vernal moth]

its outdated

[limber knot]

Well, sat images are quick to update

[vernal moth]

cause google dont wanna do it again 😄

[mossy vessel]

My city has no streetview at all

[vernal moth]

not sat images tho geolykt. Aerial images in their 3d view

the ones that actually require processing power and shit

[limber knot]

They do aerial images?

[vernal moth]

of course, lol

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-02-03_18-39-17.png
https://posili.me/i/2021-02-03_18-39-37.png

[vernal moth]

all 3d images are aerial

[ashen cliff]

Ya all just empty.

[mossy vessel]

I mean... https://i.imgur.com/80uCgxU.png

[limber knot]

And I thought it was all sat images with some processing hacks

[vernal moth]

sats dont have resolution like that

[ashen cliff]

Didn't Germany try to sue Google due to street view?

[vernal moth]

not the gov, the ppl did

[meager tusk]

kek

[limber knot]

Conspriacy time: It's interesting how all countries that have dictatorial leaders don't have street view

[meager tusk]

why

[vernal moth]

and google has to censor almost anything really

[mossy vessel]

idiots, I want my house at street view!

[spare venture]

It’s due to privacy right?

[limber knot]

yep

[spare venture]

I got google to blur my house

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/4d4dy2A.png

[spare venture]

Doesn’t really do much but yeah

[ashen cliff]

Why tho?

[spare venture]

They don’t require any verification, I’m sure you can get any place blurred

Well

Any home maybe

[limber knot]

Wow, google does less verification than any other company I know

[ashen cliff]

Since they just don't care. They don't want to get sued.

[spare venture]

Why did I blur my house? Idk, why does google think they can just take a picture of my house and me in it without consulting me and put it on the internet?

[vernal moth]

heh, this is this place next block where they found that giant ww2 bomb the other day

https://i.imgur.com/yTiN41l.png

[meager tusk]

haha that tree over there looks like a dick.

[mossy vessel]

What a super realistic view

[twin lagoon]

[cunning raft]

EU ruining online services in the name of data privacy, what's new

[mossy vessel]

The internet's never gonna establish itself, it's just a trend we all know that

[meager tusk]

:P

[mental meadow]

#neuland

[ashen cliff]

Well. Public photography n stuff.

They don't break into your home to take pictures, just did a drive by.

[vernal moth]

which still is questionable

[spare venture]

Depends on what you consider to be public

[limber knot]

just begaus it might be legal it doesn't make it morally right

*because wat

[vernal moth]

becuase the images are monetized

[cunning raft]

yeah it's legal in the US

idk about EU's shit laws

[limber knot]

s/shit/awesome

Correction, <DiscordBot> <06J​Ro​y> idk about EU's awesome laws

[cunning raft]

ok link tax

[vernal moth]

why should we allow a company to make profit from taking pictures of my house

there is no link tax

[mental meadow]

EU law is still better than german law lol

[spare venture]

More privacy is better in my opinion, in an age where privacy is slowly becoming non existent

[ashen cliff]

Germany seems to be the exception to that. Yet they get spied on the most.

[spare venture]

slowly -> already

[vernal moth]

well, here you got the most to steal, lol

[mental meadow]

Ritter Sport is not allowed to call their sugar free chocolate because by law, chocolate has to contain sugar. So now it's a cocoa fruit thingy

[cunning raft]

it's not really like that but if you're going to use this reasoning of logic you're already off

I can take a picture of anyone's house and sell it on fliker

morally it's whatever

[vernal moth]

pretty sure I can tell you to stop

[ashen cliff]

You can.

That's why the opt out exists.

[spare venture]

Probably not in the US

[cunning raft]

^

[wraith trail]

Just because you can does not mean you should be able to

[vernal moth]

well, because the US doesnt give a shit about consumer rights, lol

[spare venture]

Google does the blur when requested because I guess they didn’t want to be complete ducks

[cunning raft]

^

[vernal moth]

they have to here

else they would get fined

[cunning raft]

censorship!

[spare venture]

Which is nice but no one is stopped from doing it

Google could’ve told me to piss off

[ashen cliff]

Oh yeah, Germany is also one of the EU champs for censorship. Kinda epic.

[vernal moth]

others only get access to it because it existed

so its easy to give others access

same with your "gdpr data dump"

[visual egret]

👀

[vernal moth]

after it was a law here, suddenly every big company allowed everyone to do it

[spare venture]

Yes ender dragons are weird

[visual egret]

why are there 9 ender dragon entities

[cunning raft]

because its easier

[spare venture]

Not really sure how they work, I reset an end world this week and paper entity list showed 124 ender dragons

[cunning raft]

since the way the EU laws are, a EU user using a VPN in the US would still be entitled to GDPR

[mental meadow]

a ender dragon is like 10 entity parts iirc

[vernal moth]

if you call prosecuting ppl and holding platforms accountable for hatespeech censorship, then yes, we are really good at that

[cunning raft]

so legally easier to give those rights to everyone

[vernal moth]

well yes, EU laws apply to EU citizens

having an EU IP or not has nothing to do with that

[ashen cliff]

Not just that. "You" also allowed NSA to spy on US and EU citizens.

[cunning raft]

all it takes is another hitler and suddenly your definition of hatespeech changes

[vernal moth]

yeah the NSA thing is fucked up

[spare venture]

GDPR will never exist on my server 😛. Gimmie all your data

[vernal moth]

our definition of hatespeech is in our constitution jroy

[limber knot]

thank god they are actively banning hate speech so another hitler wont happen :)

it's almost as if the US forced us to do that

might have something to do with that big war that was happening a while back

not sure

[cunning raft]

hatespeech depends on context, there can never be a proper text definition

[mental meadow]

#politics

[ashen cliff]

Time to rename #general to #politics.

[vernal moth]

the laws dont ban hatespeech, they just hold companies accountable to following our constitution

[limber knot]

it's not like we are forced to confront our history in school

[spare venture]

Heh

[cunning raft]

yeah prob need to goto #politics

[vernal moth]

its really simple stuff like "the human dignity is unimpeachable" and "no racism pls kthxbye"

[limber knot]

not like 'muricans that don't even know that they aren't the native inhabitants of their country 👀

[spare venture]

What do you consider native? The first people who lived there?

[limber knot]

the common definition of that in America

[vernal moth]

thats the definition of native, yes

[spare venture]

The definition of native is born there

[limber knot]

.define native

meh

[spare venture]

There’s like 10 definitions tho

[limber knot]

ah yes, hate speech, a new term which anyone can use to classify anything they don't like

well I specified what I meant so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spare venture]

Yeah that’s why I asked

[void void]

Craftingstore or Tebex?

[limber knot]

who determines what is or is not

they can't robo, it's defined in our constitution

[spare venture]

Tebex

[limber knot]

and they can't change that easily

[topaz mortar]

.g define native

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/native

but that doesn't prevent from people misusing it

if you think that the law enforcement cares about some rando internet person screaming "but that's hatespeech" then you are wrong

[spare venture]

There’s a lot of definitions for it

[limber knot]

nah, it'll just b some rando employees at big tech

phoenix616: there have been cases about it? That's cool

hay notmyfault did u get ur name from dis https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/notmyfault

(unfortunately some internet platforms are lazy/cheap and don't put proper solutions in place)

so they just delete everything as soon as someone complains

meanwhile actual hate speech doesn't get deleted 👀

[mossy vessel]

No lol

[limber knot]

It's interesting to know and a shame it's not taught at shool

[mossy vessel]

But I'm well aware of that tool, you aren't the first one mentioning it :P

[limber knot]

why did MS even call it that?

enough junk gets "taught" at school nowadays

[mossy vessel]

Because they simp for me

[limber knot]

MS didn't

[spiral robin]

nmf !

[limber knot]

they just bought the tools or something idk, but it's that guy who made all that stuff

[mossy vessel]

aber

[spiral robin]

[unreal quarry]

actually, every single american knows we're not the natives inhabitants. we even celebrate it for a holiday.. what's not well known (seemingly) is that we killed them all off with violence and disease. it wasnt all friendly dinner at the dinner table like so many believe :p

[limber knot]

lol

(but I didn't say "American" on purpose, I tried to refer to the more dumper ones ;P)

*dumber, god I can't type

nah that's known, but that isn't to say there was no friendly spots either

if anything it's growing to be quite the opposite ¯_(ツ)_/¯

niche communities can only grow bigger

I mean they can also die

But at this point there would be none

[robust tiger]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-21w05a

lush caves

[limber knot]

moss 👀

Mojang "What is Mossy Cobblestone?" Studios

runs

[vernal moth]

"Improved performance when using many overrides on an item model"

YAS!

[limber knot]

they still haven't patched the server resource pack hash issue :S

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-164316 is what I mean

I really hope they get that fixed in 1.17 as the workaround creates tons of garbage on the client PC lol

who cares for the client <:

[primal badger]

hey hey people

[limber knot]

hello

[robust tiger]

they fixed some desync bugs

[vernal moth]

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-101792 this seems to be properly fixed one

which is huge

[limber knot]

nice, now I can add 1000 hats!

[spare venture]

Yeah Phoenix we just version our resource packs. Dumb workaround as our players have dozens of 1mb resource packs now

[vernal moth]

cancel that

[left swift]

Cancelled

[vernal moth]

heh, I wonder if fabric will update today

seeing as their discord imploded again

[minor badge]

i guess it depends on modmuss as usual

[vernal moth]

yeah but hes pretty pissed and deleted discord

[minor badge]

oooh

[vernal moth]

basically, fabric needs a 2.0, like paper

but the issue is, that the bad ppl infiltrated their mod team and now their admin is a giant ass hat

[left swift]

Fabric needs a wiz

[zealous wedge]

modmuss has returned to discord

[waxen panther]

.

[woven otter]

who

[spiral robin]

HEllo!

[waxen panther]

good morning

[vernal moth]

oh nice

[worn ember]

Lmao

[vernal moth]

its not really funny, its actually pretty sad

interesting

they added a new boolean to the pos and look packet

[pseudo jolt]

is it possile to cure an infected zombie twice?

possible

[left swift]

Sad things are funny

[pseudo jolt]

i've seen that the stop the 1 emerald exploit

paper stops the 1 emerald exploit

but does that prevent me from curing zombie villagers twice

[limber knot]

I hope that fabric will be fine, would be a shame if it were to die over next months

[vernal moth]

ye

[pseudo jolt]

so i cant cure zombie villagers twice right

[peak dirge]

I hope so too...

[left swift]

[void void]

is there a good storage hosting provider?

is koofr.net good?

[limber knot]

amazon? xD

really depends on what you need it for

[void void]

world backups

yes i am thinking between amason s3 wasabi and koofr

[spare venture]

just get a shitty vps

[limber knot]

could use tardigrade ;D

[spare venture]

i use backupsy personally

[void void]

there is also an option to buy a cheap dedicated server like kimsufi from the reseller but i don't think it would be as much secure as it would be with amazon or something

[limber knot]

I mean, if you run nothing on it then it's just as secure ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[compact pulsar]

This snapshot is too lagging, my world has stopped working 2 times now (TPS)

[limber knot]

it might even be more secure as you can pull your backups with a dedicated server/vps rather than having to push to them

[spare venture]

yeah i pull with mine

[void void]

thanks i will try them out

they look good

[spare venture]

been using for over a year now

[normal frost]

does anyone know which is the best scoreboard plugin currently?

[visual egret]

a custom written one or go around testing them yourself

[twin lagoon]

kiteboard

[spiral robin]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

.

[spiral robin]

ok..

[mental meadow]

michael

[twin lagoon]

[spiral robin]

wtf

[warm anchor]

Poor aber

[twin lagoon]

@spiral robin

[woven otter]

no u

[normal frost]

is there a good scoreboard plugin free?

[spiral robin]

this is so cool wtf

[twin lagoon]

kiteboard epic

[normal frost]

kitboard is premium 😦

[mental meadow]

paying devs for their work epic

[normal frost]

my server is just for me and my kids to play, whenever i can i buy some plugin, but i can't pay for several!

[visual egret]

what other plugins did you buy

[twin lagoon]

then just use tab

nvm TAB has literally everything exceptthe scoreboard

[limpid comet]

yea

no it does

tab scoreboard is based

[twin lagoon]

oh

[limpid comet]

only enabled on premium

but its foss so

i used it after kiteboard had a bug i didn't care to wait around for fix

[wide pond]

hey guys im back with more stupid questions about linux

[visual egret]

great

you have google by the way

[warm anchor]

We will assign Oskar to be your helper

[wide pond]

yep googles got my back

and oskar too apparently

[visual egret]

no

im dumb

[wide pond]

I made my first SSH key and im having trouble putting it on my server

[visual egret]

wat

you just

[wide pond]

apparently cmd doesnt support "cat" command

[visual egret]

because its cmd

[wraith trail]

oh your on windows

[warm anchor]

Use WinSCP

It’s for dummie

And works

[visual egret]

like me

[wide pond]

is that similar to cyberduck or putty

cuz i already have those

i already used CMD to create my ssh key

[void void]

hey mods or admins. A friend of mine believes he was banned here. He tried to DM zzzCat (has him on his friends list), but he isn't replying, and he asked me to come here to invistigate. Who would be the one to talk to?

[limpid comet]

windows: git bash

what's the guys name

[void void]

shanebee

[limpid comet]

cat probably doesn't care about some guy being banned

[visual egret]

jan truck

imagine

[wraith trail]

whats your friends name?

[spiral robin]

#general message

[limpid comet]

shanebee u dum

[spiral robin]

LOOOL

[limpid comet]

sulu owned

[wraith trail]

also just to be clear anyone who has answered yo is not a mod

[mossy vessel]

They can file an unban appeal instead of sending a middle man

[visual egret]

just like ur mum

[void void]

where we he file it?

[limpid comet]

oskar that wasn't even close to making sense

[spiral robin]

what does that even mean oskar

[mossy vessel]

https://papermc.io/community-guidelines

[visual egret]

i rarley make sense

[void void]

thank you

[limpid comet]

rarley

[mossy vessel]

"Ban appeals"

[warm anchor]

Lmao

[void void]

thanks ill pass it on

[warm anchor]

Is that his lawyer

Or something

[limpid comet]

omg wait

i have a server now

I CAN SSR

POGU

[left swift]

Petition to mute oskar for 48 hours sign here x___

[limpid comet]

etneriyy

pls give me validation

thoghts?

[warm anchor]

We will send all the 12 year old to Oskar

[visual egret]

no

noone sign it

[warm anchor]

It’s very blue

[visual egret]

my thoughts are you should buy a windows licence

[limpid comet]

its like kscott.dev round 2

im going for that same design

[left swift]

Can you make 50 pages all with 1 word on it

[limpid comet]

what word

[left swift]

Then it will be a good website

Any word

[limpid comet]

thats 2 words

[left swift]

Maybe 2 word is better for no words

[limpid comet]

hmm

you do raise a point

[left swift]

"Page"

[limpid comet]

ok im bored of web dev now

im gonna go back to being michaels bitch

[wide pond]

alright oskar

you got my back right?

[visual egret]

wat

yeah

kind of

not really though

[wraith trail]

oskar is dumb

[wide pond]

I just connected with cyberduck instead of putty and im seeing some options for SSH keys

[wraith trail]

dumber than me sometimes

[wide pond]

good

[visual egret]

idiots helping idiots

[left swift]

How many lightbulbs to screw in an ssh key

[visual egret]

0

because i can somehow do it

[wide pond]

well i made my SSH key with cmd on my windows machine

and now i need to get it onto my server somehow

[visual egret]

copy the one that ends with .pub

[wide pond]

just into the main directory in cyberduck?

[wraith trail]

no just ssh-copy-id or whatever

[visual egret]

sulu

that doesent exist on windows

[limpid comet]

if you use git bash it does

[wraith trail]

why would you manually transfer over ftp

oh

yeah get git bash

[limpid comet]

not uploading your keys to discord and wget'ing the link

[olive marlin]

Can use either copy I'd, or copy the contents of public key into .ssh/authorized_keys

[wide pond]

ok im uploading my keys to general chat now

[visual egret]

speaking of that, guess whos been making the aether today

[olive marlin]

Never share that private key.

[visual egret]

only public key

[olive marlin]

Oskar is talking to himself?

[visual egret]

wut

[left swift]

How does discord still support all this storage from all the servers and dms people use

It's crazy

You got people like oskar uploading 60000 10mb files

[olive marlin]

Is Discord even making money? Wouldn't be surprised if it was still a startup loosing lots of cash.

[wraith trail]

even if you delete a message with file they keep it for months after

[olive marlin]

But I don't follow it.

[wraith trail]

no. don't make money

[left swift]

Dont think they've ever made money off discord lol

[visual egret]

wat

thats like

[limpid comet]

ur 3mb

[left swift]

Theres gonna be a time where they start putting stuff like that behind a paywall

[visual egret]

nomana

look at the thing

its literally like

7kb

[left swift]

Do you know what an exaggeration is oskar

[visual egret]

no

ill google it if you teach me how threading works in java

[left swift]

[warm anchor]

Don’t give him ideals. He’s gonna multiplying

[wide pond]

ok so basically i filled this out and selected my key from the dropdown menu at the bottom and connected

is that all i need to do?

[visual egret]

wut

[wide pond]

or do I still need to upload my public key somehow

[warm anchor]

Yes you put in server ip

[wide pond]

im connected its just empty tho

do i need to put the public key somewhere or did it do it automatically

[warm anchor]

See that choose... button?

Try clicking it with your mouse

[wide pond]

yea I chose my SSH folder

[waxen panther]

[visual egret]

folder?

[wide pond]

entered my password

[visual egret]

it says private key

[mossy vessel]

Imagine using the default ssh port

[visual egret]

not folder

eww

22 worst port

[warm anchor]

Alright @wide pond Oskar will take you from here. He’s our cyber security expert

[wide pond]

.ssh/id_rsa is what I chose

[visual egret]

anyway ima go take a shower

[wide pond]

and hit connect

wait oskar bro

u have my back

[left swift]

Bad support

[wide pond]

dont shower on me

[left swift]

Bad rating on spigot forums for this Oskar

[warm anchor]

Oskar can you help him and shower with him later

[wide pond]

^

[visual egret]

i dont care about spigot

hangar >

[wide pond]

dont say such things oskar

[left swift]

[visual egret]

anyway

bai

[limpid comet]

wow oskar

really left the guy hanging huh

damn

[wide pond]

how can I double check it uploaded my public key

[limpid comet]

check authorized_keys?

[wraith trail]

well, if you can connect it has. If you can't it hasnt

[limpid comet]

or that

sulu so smart

[wraith trail]

but, I don't think you actually uploaded anything yet

[warm anchor]

Type vim authorized_key to make sure your private key is inside

[wraith trail]

no

not vim

how to exit

halp

[warm anchor]

Lol

Lolll

[left swift]

Vi

[wide pond]

yeah so it didnt upload cuz i dont even have an authoruized_keys folder

i have a folder called debian

and everything inside of it is empty

[warm anchor]

It’s not a folder

[wraith trail]

so is your server running debian?

[left swift]

.g how to use ssh keys on debian

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys-on-debian-10

[left swift]

That'll be 10$

[wraith trail]

just install git bash and do it in there

[wide pond]

dude i followed that

but its a shitty guide to use if ur on windows

cuz the 2 commands they ask u to do dont exist

[wraith trail]

https://git-scm.com/downloads

[warm anchor]

That’s so cheap I ma forward all the ssh support to you from now on

[wraith trail]

download this, install

[wraith trail]

go to start -> git bash, run the commands there

[left swift]

Blocked

[wide pond]

alright ill download this sketchy git scm

[wraith trail]

"sketchy"

[warm anchor]

Lol

[left swift]

Authorized keys is in your user folder under home not root folder

[warm anchor]

I can give you Chinese knock off if you want real sketchy one

[wraith trail]

yeah but just installing git and then ssh-copy-id will be easier for him probably

[left swift]

Maybe

[wide pond]

@left swift home folder empty

im getting big daddy git scm

and blindly clicking every "next" in the installer

[left swift]

You setting up an ssh key for root?

[wraith trail]

I think he already has a user, was in #paper-help earlier

[wide pond]

yeah someone told me to do ssh key and firewall before i start installing paper

[left swift]

If home is empty they doesnt have a user

[wide pond]

i do have a login that my host emailed to me

i do have a user

[wraith trail]

oh he must have undone it

[wide pond]

i didnt :/

it still works

[wraith trail]

is the username "root"

[wide pond]

no its debian

[wraith trail]

your host probably just put its home dir somewhere weird

[wide pond]

host is OVH

[left swift]

Wat

[peak ginkgo]

What are you trying to figure out @wraith trail

[wraith trail]

just helping him get an ssh key on his machine

[wide pond]

ok im in daddy git scm

i think i got this no

now

cuz i can use cat command

[wraith trail]

So, ssh keys are per user. So you first want to create a user

[peak ginkgo]

im gonna blow ur mind here

[wraith trail]

yes, perfect. Now just finish the guide linked

[peak ginkgo]

When you make the key, just copy it with ssh-copy-id [e-mail]

[left swift]

Blow us dejay

[wraith trail]

yeah, he's done that

but windows dum

[peak ginkgo]

Yeah windows sux

[wraith trail]

had him install git bash, now we are here

[peak ginkgo]

https://u.dejay.dev/🥠🐻🚁.png?

embed please?

[warm anchor]

Dejay dum url

[wide pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86C94bH3jxc

[meager tusk]

whats that green terminal icon there

[peak ginkgo]

Codota

[meager tusk]

ohh

i had that at one point

slowed my ide and autocomplete to shit for some reason tho

[peak ginkgo]

Oh you got rid of it?

[meager tusk]

so i removed it

[peak ginkgo]

Yeah I think It's fucking me up too

[meager tusk]

it's not very good

[peak ginkgo]

Really notable after changing from paper-api to just paper

I gotta know the WHOLE Classname of whatever NMS thing I wanted

And then I let intellij go "oh yeah here it is"

https://u.dejay.dev/📻🦕🧯.png

It's a crutch and I don't need it

[meager tusk]

ggs

[wide pond]

the key works

[woven otter]

no

[wide pond]

and i did it all while oskar was taking a shower

so dont let him take any credit

[peak ginkgo]

shit talking oskar, you're one of us now

[meager tusk]

codota isn't very good, i think there's some alternatives on the plugins marketplace but like

nah?

[wide pond]

now i gotta do my firewall

!digital ocean firewall

[wraith trail]

local security expert oskar

[peak ginkgo]

.g digital ocean ufw tutorial

[wraith trail]

what command are you trying to do?

oh

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-firewall-with-ufw-on-ubuntu-20-04

[peak ginkgo]

here

[meager tusk]

fact spitter oskar

[peak ginkgo]

You want that one :)

lmao

Click it, then use the drop down to switch to Debian 10

[wide pond]

i need the one for debian10 but yes

[cosmic raft]

for those who have not seen, as I know some people here use it:

[peak ginkgo]

You can do it from there

[cosmic raft]

https://jfrog.com/blog/into-the-sunset-bintray-jcenter-gocenter-and-chartcenter/

[peak ginkgo]

[wraith trail]

ACK its literally the exact same

[vernal moth]

what a shit show kashike

isnt it the default for android?

[peak ginkgo]

It is, but this one just says Debian @wraith trail

Yes it is

[cosmic raft]

no clue mini

[peak ginkgo]

JCenter is big for mobile

was

[wide pond]

QUESTION

should I be doing this firewall shit using the paper account

and not root?

[wraith trail]

does not really change anything, but good practice not to use root for everything

[wide pond]

i used root for my SSH key

[wraith trail]

ok, well you'll want to put that on your paper user not root

that is unless you want to switch users every time logging in

[wide pond]

shit

[twin lagoon]

L

[wide pond]

i mean i dont even know if its root

[peak ginkgo]

find out

[wide pond]

OVH gave me this login called "debian"

[peak ginkgo]

debian is just a normal user

[wide pond]

which i think is their version of root

[wraith trail]

you'd know if its root when it says "root"

[peak ginkgo]

Here do you wanna become root anyway

[wraith trail]

no, its not

[twin lagoon]

no

it's just a regualr user with sudo access

[wide pond]

can i just use this debian account for my SSH key and paper then? since its not root?

[twin lagoon]

yes you're supposed to use it

[wide pond]

thanks magic mike

[peak ginkgo]

They specifically make root harder to access

@twin lagoon upload that plugin i dm'd you

[left swift]

Damn

[twin lagoon]

soon

i am very tired and i am groovin rn

[peak ginkgo]

i accidentally slept through a lecture

lol

Used a class break to stretch on my bed bc sitting is bad for you

[peak ginkgo]

Then I woke up 3 minutes before the end of class

[wide pond]

Firewall is active and enabled on system startup

now oskar cant get in

all i allowed through the firewall is SSH

i assume i need to add port 25565 as well?

[wraith trail]

yeah

[wide pond]

im a genius

[wraith trail]

its also good practice to move ssh to a port that is not 22

[wide pond]

how can i do that?

[wraith trail]

.g change ssh port debian

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-change-ssh-port-on-linux

[wide pond]

will hackers know if im using port 69 for ssh

probably too easy to guess right

[golden gust]

if somebody really wants to know, they'll find out

[wraith trail]

if you give it more than 2 seconds of effort, any port is super easy to find

you only change it so that bots scanning port 22 on the whole internet don't find you

but, whatever is scanning the whole internet wants to spend the minimum time on each host, so generally won't look far

[left swift]

6969

Perhaps even 42069

[wide pond]

Although you can use a port within a 1-1024 range for the SSH service to avoid issues with port allocation in the future, it is recommended to choose a port above 1024.

In this example will change the SSH port to 5522, you can choose any port you want.

just read this

[olive garden]

I've heard 1337 is hard to guess

[wide pond]

6969 it is

[wraith trail]

yeah ports below 1024 are "protected" in a sense

[wide pond]

69 should always be protected

whats the built in text editor called again

[twin lagoon]

nano

[olive garden]

vim

[twin lagoon]

whatever you do don't use vim or vi

[olive garden]

don't listen to him

he's wanna trick you into using nano

once you enter it you can't exit it

[wraith trail]

why so many how 2 linux basics guides use vim/vi is beyond me

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTd-q9ky_rM

[warm anchor]

Lol

[meager tusk]

I would @ Kevin but he's not in this discord

[wide pond]

error writing permission denied

😦

[wraith trail]

sudo

[wide pond]

sudo nano?

[wraith trail]

yes

[twin lagoon]

sudo runs your command as superuser/root

it's like the prompts on windows you get when installing a program if you want to run it as admin

[wraith trail]

be carful though, don't run random stuff with sudo before it as it will give the program complete access to your system

[warm anchor]

Sudo is also the fuck my shit up I know what I am doing mode so yeah

[wide pond]

tcp LISTEN 0 128 0.0.0.0:6969 0.0.0.0:*
tcp LISTEN 0 128 [::]:6969 [::]:*

this means i fucked up right?

[wraith trail]

no?

well at least I don't see the issue

[limber knot]

I performed mv / .. earlier today, if I had done that is superuser I would be fucked, so yeah, don't run anything with sudo unless you must

[wide pond]

idk this article says the resulkt should look like this

tcp LISTEN 0 128 0.0.0.0:5522 0.0.0.0:*
tcp ESTAB 0 0 192.168.121.108:5522 192.168.121.1:57638
tcp LISTEN 0 128 [::]:5522 [::]:*

but i dont have that middle one

[wraith trail]

oh ignore that, its fine

thats just because its listening on an address your system does not have 0.0.0.0/0 is everything

[olive marlin]

Isn't that middle one from someone being connected to your socket?

[wide pond]

ok now thats its changed i can do sudo ufw deny 22?

since im not using 22 anymore

[wraith trail]

test if it works first

don't want to lock yourself out

[limber knot]

But it's 182.*, so nothing dramatic

[wide pond]

just make a new instance of this cmd looking thingy and try connecting agagin>?

[wraith trail]

yeah it is, didn't even read that part

yes.

wait

what cmd looking thingy?

[wide pond]

big daddy win scm

wait no

git scm

[wraith trail]

git? ok

[wide pond]

yea

how do i specify the port

when im connecting

its defaulting to 22

[wraith trail]

what command are you typing?

[wide pond]

ssh

[wraith trail]

ok, then just ssh -p 6969

-p tells it to use that port

p means port I assume

[wide pond]

ssh -p 6969 debian@my-ip

?

[wraith trail]

oh actually probably put debian@my-ip before the -p

might work both ways, who knows

[wide pond]

sounds like something oskar would say

[olive marlin]

If you put later, it might interpret it as remote command to run.

But TL;DR does suggest putting it later...

[wraith trail]

i've always put it after, or any argument for that case

[wide pond]

it connected on port 6969

so i assume i can close out 22 now

[wraith trail]

ok, yes.

[wide pond]

sudo ufw deny ssh right

[wraith trail]

probably

[wide pond]

added

[wraith trail]

the manpage has you putting it after the host

[wide pond]

im gunna make a how to video

after i finish this shit

[wraith trail]

um...

maybe you should do a bit more learning first and make sure everything you say is correct

[wide pond]

theres no good instructions on how to secure a vps and install paper

[wraith trail]

but then you would probably lose interest, like most have

[left swift]

Wait what u did ssh not 22?

Nvm

[vestal frost]

Hello

[wide pond]

1. Install a fresh copy of Debian 10
2. Update/Upgrade server packages
3. Create a sudo user
4. Create/upload SSH keys and change ur port
5. Configure firewall
6. Install Java
7. Install Screen
8. Download paper
9. Create start.sh
10. Start the server

im at step 6

[wraith trail]

yeah that seems like a pretty solid plan

oh, if you want to know how to do that, see below

.java11

[limber knot]

Follow the guides for how to update to Java 11 here: https://gist.github.com/Proximyst/67615353e2575a71faaff3f7ae9cc2b4

[wide pond]

im thinking of opening port 80 and using it for dynmap

[visual egret]

hi

do you have a domain on cloudflare @wide pond

[wide pond]

google domains

how can i check what ive allowed for UFW

when i did sudo ufw allow 25565

did i need to specify TCP or UDP or whatever

?

[visual egret]

eww

i immediately transferred my google domains domain to cloudflare

[wide pond]

why

[visual egret]

ddos protection

and nicer stats, etc

just better in general

[vernal moth]

you can use cloudflare without transfering your domains

just fyi

[golden gust]

oh god

[wide pond]

yea thats what i was thinking

i have so many domains through google

its easy to manage

[wraith trail]

oskar don't guide him down this, its unnecessary

[golden gust]

one sec, my heads spinning, but, I gotta grab something

[limpid comet]

what

you transferred ur domains to cloudflare

[wide pond]

when I did sudo ufw allow 25565 did i need to specify udp/tcp etc

[limpid comet]

doea both by default iirc

[golden gust]

Like, I knew we where at least a few TB/month, but, damn

[limpid comet]

impressive

[wraith trail]

do you pay for cloudflare?

[golden gust]

no

[wraith trail]

or, does paper pay for cloudflare?

impressive they allow you to distribute binaries like that without paying

or, archives, whatever

[visual egret]

rich people pay

[golden gust]

account is basically owned by the org or something, idk, i've been too dead to really track stuff, just some stuff got moved to a shared email for management purposes, so

[vernal moth]

thats impressive

thats like what, 75m requests?

[golden gust]

don't ask the mentally afllicted to try to maths 😦

[wide pond]

$ sudo apt install openjdk-11-jre-headless -y

is this the best way to get java?

[vernal moth]

it was a rhetorical question cat, pffff

[wraith trail]

that will get debians build, which is fine

[vernal moth]

I wouldn't ask you anything, no matter your mental condition

thats how much I love ya

[golden gust]

go kick a bomb you fuck

[wide pond]

is their a different build thats more optimal sulu?

[vernal moth]

no then we cant put them into a museum anymore

[wraith trail]

"no"

[wide pond]

lmfao

[left swift]

Bomb museums

That sounds bad

[vernal moth]

I already have been punished enough anyways

[wide pond]

$ sudo apt install screen -y

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/3BS44Ae.png

[wide pond]

is this the best way to get screen

[wraith trail]

you don't need to ask for every package lol

[vernal moth]

eslint is literally sabotaging hangar rn

[wraith trail]

yes, use the package manager.

[wide pond]

dude i just want this thing to be as perfect as i can make it

[wraith trail]

you can also install multiple packages with one command

[wide pond]

and im not gunna run some install command blindly

without having oskar look at it first

[vernal moth]

not sure if serious or not

[wraith trail]

for example sudo apt install screen openjdk-11-jre-headless

[vernal moth]

oskar

[wide pond]

lol im kidding

[golden gust]

||nothing like the idiots leading the blind||

[visual egret]

hello

[wide pond]

freshly showered oskar

[visual egret]

looks fine to me, i used that on debian

and it

[golden gust]

You know, I used to be heavily against abortions

[visual egret]

works ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[golden gust]

||being a member of this community makes me view post-natal abortions more favourably||

[visual egret]

#politics moment

[wide pond]

1. Install a fresh copy of Debian 10
2. Update/Upgrade server packages
3. Create a sudo user
4. Create/upload SSH keys and change ur port
5. Configure firewall
6. Install Java
7. Install Screen
8. Download paper
9. Create start.sh
10. Start the server

im at the download paper part

[visual egret]

ez

[limber knot]

post-natal abortions, sounds like killing

[vernal moth]

https://papermc.io/downloads

[potent fossil]

I'll post natally abort cat rn

[visual egret]

@wide pond curl -o paperclip.jar https://papermc.io/api/v2/projects/paper/versions/1.16.5/builds/457/downloads/paper-1.16.5-457.jar

[potent fossil]

Anyone wanna watch

[visual egret]

watch what 👀

[golden gust]

With how dead I feel, that's falling more into my catagory of 'not really but wanna try' kinks

[limber knot]

Aborting a cat

[wide pond]

is curl better than wget?

[wraith trail]

depends what your after, but for you no.

[limber knot]

someone will say it's worse, really depends on who you ask

[wide pond]

"worse"

"better"

[potent fossil]

curl is bae

[wide pond]

im starting to get it now

[wraith trail]

I only use curl because i'm familiar with it and its included in more distros by default

[vernal moth]

curl is way better for actual apis and shit

wget is the dummy way to download files

curl is wwwaayyyyyyy more powerful

[visual egret]

wait

so i gave some advice that was actually good

[golden gust]

at the end of the day, for most peoples uages, they both do the same thing

[vernal moth]

no, it literally doesnt matter

[visual egret]

new achievement in papermc discord: oskar gives useful advice

[potent fossil]

as predicted

[golden gust]

they're both stupid in their own ways and moronic as crap

But, like

[wraith trail]

for him it changes nothing

[vernal moth]

curl -v is bae

[wraith trail]

he's just downloading a file

[wide pond]

i downloaded apper

paper

now i just need to make the start command

[limber knot]

You need to optimize the download man

[vernal moth]

.mcflags

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[wide pond]

optimize the download?

[wraith trail]

no lol

[limber knot]

Just a joke

[wide pond]

should i use nano to create my start command

[wraith trail]

sure

[golden gust]

.nano

oh, the machine I use for stuff is dead, I gotta go bully my mate about it later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTd-q9ky_rM

[wide pond]

#!/bin/sh

java -Xms512M -Xmx1024M -jar paper-1.16.5-457.jar

look good?

[vernal moth]

.mcflags

[wraith trail]

read what minidigger linked

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[wraith trail]

also 1 gig is a bit small

[wide pond]

oh i thought i was getting trolled

about optimizing the download

[modest path]

good bot

[wide pond]

ill read it

[modest path]

🤔

[wraith trail]

no this is different, actually important

[wide pond]

i understand what this kind gentleman is saying

but how do i add these flags to my start file

[wraith trail]

yeah perfect

[wide pond]

wait

how do i format code for discord

[wraith trail]

just replace xmx and xms with the amount of memroy you want

triple back tick

[wide pond]

java -Xms6500M -Xmx6500M -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar paper-1.16.5-457.jar nogui

[wraith trail]

```bash
code
```

yeah thats perfect, just replace xmx and xms with the amount of memory you want

[wide pond]

cool i changed paperclip.jar to the jar i downloaded

does the value need a unit of measurement

[wraith trail]

what you have there is G, you can change it to M if you want

[autumn briar]

Any issues running papermc with openjdk 15?

[wraith trail]

no, but ask the question

[wide pond]

@wraith trail how do my values look now?

[wraith trail]

yeah thats fine

[vernal moth]

Running just fine here

On 16 actually

[wraith trail]

oh, misread his message

[wide pond]

do i need to put #!/bin/sh at the beginning

[wraith trail]

if you desire

good idea depending on how you are running it, but for you it will probably not change anythign

[vernal moth]

It's best practice

It's called a shebang and tells your os how to run the file

[left swift]

Shebang shebang

[visual egret]

hi nomana

[golden gust]

?ban @left swift no. stop.

[golden gust]

I stand by that statement

[woven otter]

please ban

[left swift]

Me too

[visual egret]

please ban me too

[upper flicker]

when that stops working, so many people are gonna get banned

[visual egret]

hi z750

[wraith trail]

inb4 oskar actually gets banned

[golden gust]

😄

[visual egret]

cat you wont ban me right

uwu

[golden gust]

I already called it other day, gonna be awkward af if they ever strip that

[wide pond]

$ chmod +x start.sh

should make it executable right

[golden gust]

Yes

[wide pond]

do i need to do echo "eula=true" > eula.txt

or is that outdated

[wraith trail]

that will just agree to the eula, so in a sense

but, you should read the eula first

[left swift]

Mandated reading is a drag

I just want to sell my pvp perks in minecraft

[wide pond]

my dad read it to me as a bedtime story as a kid so i dont think i need to read it again

[left swift]

Nice

[wide pond]

my server has no donation perks

but its paid whitelist lol

[wraith trail]

well then

[visual egret]

0 player moment

/s

[wide pond]

its 25 slots slightly modified SMP

[visual egret]

slightly modified

[wide pond]

only 25 on the whitelist added at a time

[visual egret]

it has to be very modified

[left swift]

Why

[wraith trail]

let's not give this guy advice on how to run his server

[left swift]

Those 25 people are guaranteed to not play at the same time or longer than a week

[wide pond]

^ not yet at least

idk we peaked at 17 players so far

[visual egret]

or chances are

[ashen cliff]

That's 17 more than oskar.

[wide pond]

if ur paying for whitelist i want to ensure there is always a slot for you

[visual egret]

it will die

[wide pond]

my server?

lol

probably

[wraith trail]

probably 99.5% of servers don't last more than a couple months

[wide pond]

people seem to really be enjoying it

[wraith trail]

and, most servers actually have less than 1 average player

[wide pond]

theres a few players with over 5d of playtime

it started as SMP for just my group of friends but now its friends of friends etc

and the whitelist is only $2/month

alright back to switching it to VPS....

Start a screen instance to run the server in the background.

$ screen -S "My PaperSpigot Server"
Run the startup script.

$ cd ~/paper
$ ./start.sh

thats all there is to it?

[peak ginkgo]

Yeah

I recommend using screen -R instead of S but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wide pond]

screen -R "ACK Server"

[wraith trail]

.g screen cheet sheat

see this

wow I can spell