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twin lagoon
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i don't expect it to modify your system either

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but you might aswell

lyric hinge
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Still wouldn't touch it with a 10foot pole

peak ginkgo
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I've seen the code and I know it better than the author

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I did an analysis for DedicatedMC a while ago

coarse lily
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The problem is if they don't know how it got there.

peak ginkgo
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I can tell you how it got there

coarse lily
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It could be a crappy plugin they downloaded or they could have some other thing compromised, right?

worn ember
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magic

peak ginkgo
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It's one plugin

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Upload all "trusted" copies of your plugins + my plugin

coarse lily
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Oh really?

peak ginkgo
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My plugin will see the fuckery and kill the server

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And then TELL YOU which jar it was

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:)

coarse lily
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Haha there you go - DeJay can help :)

magic river
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Yeah, you've just been owned by installing random shit, here have some more random shit

coarse lily
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Assuming they feel comfortable enough to upload all the plugins

peak ginkgo
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LOL @magic river

waxen panther
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phosyawn

peak ginkgo
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Good point I never really considered that

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I guess it's just trusting me over some random plugin

lyric hinge
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Top tip: Treat JARs like candy offered to you by a man in a van

waxen panther
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at least this random shit isnt pirated random shit

peak ginkgo
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Look at my face I am pretty : )

shy tundra
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Michael

waxen panther
shy tundra
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or somoene

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Deleting the folder "javassasit" is a solution?

lyric hinge
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No

waxen panther
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lol

peak ginkgo
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Not at all.

shy tundra
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ok

lyric hinge
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Deleting the server is

magic river
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I trust you 100% now

shy tundra
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I will reinstall ye

peak ginkgo
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You could very much full reinstall and upload the bad plugin again

coarse lily
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Mitsui2k DeJay might be able to help.

waxen panther
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LOMBOK USER DETECTED

peak ginkgo
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Literally doesn't help you

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@waxen panther I LOVE LOMBOK

waxen panther
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i knew something was sus about u

peak ginkgo
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lol

tropic flame
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i would switch of VPS even

peak ginkgo
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i wanna turn off repeat on that gif

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it doesnt write to the disk

lyric hinge
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To be fair, I'd consider yourself lucky you just got a RAT

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That's not too bad

worn ember
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just poison them

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ez pz

lyric hinge
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Some of them will nuke the system, and some will use your server to launch attacks against other users

peak ginkgo
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This is literally just an OP backdoor

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It opens a websocket connection

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Dumps your logs to whoever owns it

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And lets them run commands arbitrarily

shy tundra
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yea

lyric hinge
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Yeah am aware - I'm saying he's lucky he got that

shy tundra
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they could run commands in the server without logging it

magic river
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Commands or code?

peak ginkgo
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Commands

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It's just dispatchCommand

magic river
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what newbs

shy tundra
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i dont know

lyric hinge
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Probably just griefers or YT'ers

shy tundra
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when

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i believe im infected like for 6months then

peak ginkgo
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I've been trying to get their domains shutdown but OVH and Cloudflare don't care

shy tundra
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I thought that .jar being modified of size after the first usage was normal

peak ginkgo
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Cloudflare services the websocket, and OVH owns the domain and the target box

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oh dear

shy tundra
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lmao

waxen panther
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lol

peak ginkgo
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I can tell you how big the virus is, hold on

spiral robin
twin lagoon
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brocc tacoplead

peak ginkgo
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Modified files grow by 546384 bytes.

(File size of modified Citizens2 Build 2048 - File size of clean Citizens2 Build 2048)

tropic flame
waxen panther
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aber πŸ₯Ί michael broccoHug

spiral robin
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hey y u only hug micaheal

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not me Pepe_Sad

twin lagoon
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aber tacoplead

shy tundra
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what DeJay?

twin lagoon
waxen panther
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aber needahug

spiral robin
peak ginkgo
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@shy tundra The file grows by 546384 bytes whenever the javassist stuff is injected

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So seeing the file get LARGER is a bad sign

shy tundra
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RIGHT

peak ginkgo
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Are you on Windows Server by chance

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I hope you aren't, but

shy tundra
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centos 7

twin lagoon
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no worse

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centos

peak ginkgo
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Okay

tropic flame
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linux is always better

peak ginkgo
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It doesn't run on operating systems containing "windows" in the name

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Literally Paper could just change os.name for you and call it a year

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Virus won't work

tropic flame
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doesn't matter if it's centos

peak ginkgo
magic river
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Is that so they don't infect your local testing environment before you upload their garbage?

peak ginkgo
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I guess

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It also does weird file traversing

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So it's probably so the OS doesn't stop it

worn ember
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mac users

waxen panther
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No they just feel bad for the weird windows users

peak ginkgo
shy tundra
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my machine is windows 10

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is that inffected?

peak ginkgo
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@shy tundra Nope

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It specifically will not run on Windows

shy tundra
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Right

coarse lily
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That's pretty hilarious DeJay

peak ginkgo
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Do you have a local testing environment with copies of the plugins you feel ike you can trust?

coarse lily
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"If it's Windows fuck it we don't even care to exploit it"

shy tundra
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i trust every 83 plugins i own, an ex-dev must have download an inffected .jar

lyric hinge
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every 83 plugins

peak ginkgo
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What you can do is spin up a test server on your computer and it won't be fucked

shy tundra
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xdd

lyric hinge
shy tundra
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i mean

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there are normal plugins

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everyone knows

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downloaded from spigot

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Anyway

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i will resintall the pc, and download every .jar again of those 83 plugins

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the virus shouldnt be working anymore

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that "javasssit" folder

peak ginkgo
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Ye you got the spirit

waxen panther
shy tundra
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DeJay

cosmic raft
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the right one broc

worn ember
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right

waxen panther
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okie

spiral robin
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what kash said

tropic flame
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I'd also switch of home, just to be sure it's not infiltration from the pipes that got the malware in your server

worn ember
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left looks like its been eaten before

peak ginkgo
shy tundra
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My servers are running in root

spiral robin
shy tundra
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thas means that my linux machine could be deleted

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anytime?

peak ginkgo
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It doesn't modify anything outside your plugins folder

shy tundra
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I mean, he can delete my /home

peak ginkgo
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So no

twin lagoon
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it could have happened if it was more malicious

waxen panther
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wtf this one is 8 minutes to microwave ree

spiral robin
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wtf

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thats toxic

twin lagoon
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i'll microwave you for 8 minutes @waxen panther

peak ginkgo
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This is a good lesson in security though

waxen panther
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who has 8 minutes to spare!!!

tropic flame
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shouldn't it still ask for your root password even if you're in the root account though

shy tundra
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Dejay, how do you know is only in the plugins folder?

twin lagoon
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no

waxen panther
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woah Michael Blush

tropic flame
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i mean even windows at least asks for yes or no

twin lagoon
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what would root need his password for

twin lagoon
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it's root, full system privileges

peak ginkgo
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getDataFolder => /plugins/Vault/
getParent => /plugins/

tropic flame
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i mean

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yeah idfk

waxen panther
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defeats the purpose of root existing if it still asks for your password on every operation lol

tropic flame
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yeah idk it's 1 am here sorry

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lole

shy tundra
waxen panther
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Me too

coarse lily
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If you know one plugin might have caused it, don't download that one again.

shy tundra
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Just to be sure

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That .jar also is only for the "Plugins folder"

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wont inffect

peak ginkgo
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Dont use that

waxen panther
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lol

shy tundra
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i mean

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i sent u another .jar

peak ginkgo
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Yeah, it's just like

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It's the exact same code copy pasted

shy tundra
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so u can confirm is only inffected plugisn folder

magic river
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Alright, who killed the orange site?

shy tundra
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what a stupid virus tbh xd

magic river
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Wait, you guys have a different orange site

peak ginkgo
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But I will tell you after opening this in Recaf it still only targets /plugins/

shy tundra
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i mean, why they didnt inffect my whole pc?

peak ginkgo
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

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Easier to hide this way?

magic river
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Hacker News is down 😦

peak ginkgo
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Yes I am looking at this plugin

shy tundra
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yea

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today the grief me

coarse lily
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The malware is designed to only get access to plugins

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Most servers don't run as root.

peak ginkgo
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It only wants server details

coarse lily
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If it did more your server would be toast.

shy tundra
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right

peak ginkgo
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It also logs server name/port/ip/players/...logs

shy tundra
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how do i run a user

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to create

waxen panther
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Google

shy tundra
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Ok so i wont reinstall my pc

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just the .jars

waxen panther
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that’s like Linux 101

shy tundra
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and confirm that that "javaclass" isnt appering anymore after the new .jar

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?

lean kiln
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yes no java classes

peak ginkgo
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Ye, and if you want me to open a file for you just DM it to me

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Just don't DM me every file that'll get annoying

waxen panther
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Can I dm u the file one byte at a time

peak ginkgo
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sure

spiral robin
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yes

peak ginkgo
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stream it to me

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It's also fun to see what data it ends

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I love how different different decompilers are

twin lagoon
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luyten >

peak ginkgo
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CFR, nice pretty streams - short and straight to the point

coarse lily
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DeJay you're a giant nerd and I love it.

peak ginkgo
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@twin lagoon Recaf >:(

twin lagoon
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@minor badge go to bed

peak ginkgo
worn ember
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when the worst thing was Australia being on fire

magic river
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"The yard is just polluted with carbohydrate foam, that shit grows on trees"

shy tundra
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@warm anchor

warm anchor
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Nice discord mobile. Cant even click on that. Smh let me scroll up

warm anchor
hot hound
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Question, I'm doing something with protocollib and need to get a block under the player, because its being done on the netty theads (async) its not thread-safe, so my question is how would I go about getting the material there safely?

spiral robin
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player.getlocation.getblock

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then subtract y 1

hot hound
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thats not thread safe tho

spiral robin
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how so? its a built in bukkit method

hot hound
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right - but its on the netty threads

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cuz I'm doing something on an incoming packet event

spiral robin
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ah gotcha πŸ˜„

formal turret
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could schedule a bukkit runnable maybe

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those run on the main thread

hot hound
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errrr that would not work for my plugin

formal turret
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kinda figured it might not

hot hound
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there is way to many other things going on that rely on me knowing the block under the player

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plus would mess with packet order

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well

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atleast how I handle stuff anyways

formal turret
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could uhh store the player and the current block they're standing on in a list somewhere

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and update it with playermoveevent

hot hound
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still would be problematic for my application

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on packet position packet
-> // do whatever I'm doing that requires knowning of the player is on the ground, packet order needs to be kept

server gets the packet
-> calls player move -> update some map

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would not work

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the information I would have

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would be from the PREVIOUS position packet

formal turret
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why do you need to do it with a packet?

hot hound
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because there are OTHER packets that are incoming after lets say position

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like it can't be done sync

magic river
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You can't access the world async so if you can't use PlayerMoveEvent and have to be in a packet handler you're just going to have to make it work without the world

hot hound
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I do have the player

magic river
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You can't do anything with them

hot hound
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not even when casting it to the nms object?

magic river
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The Bukkit API isn't thread safe because Minecraft isn't

hot hound
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not using chunk sections even?

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like

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fuck

zealous wedge
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lol

magic river
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Nope, you can't touch World, WorldServer, Chunk, ChunkSection, etc

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Those are all not thread safe

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You could grab a ChunkSnapshot on the main thread and use that but it'll get out of date, takes time to make, and will more than double your memory usage

formal turret
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if you're just reading doesn't it just have the potential to be out of date?

magic river
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You could make your own clones of ChunkSection on the main thread to do a somewhat more efficient version of the same idea but it'll still get out of date and double your memory usage

hot hound
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^ yea

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Hmm

magic river
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No, reading from a HashMap that is in the middle of being modified can do more than just give you outdated data

zealous wedge
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there's fun ways to get lockups with map lookups :p

hot hound
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can't just use concurrenthashmap or something

formal turret
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i think that'd block

waxen panther
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if only life was so easy

formal turret
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so could mess up your packet order

warm anchor
zealous wedge
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CHM is thread-safe, but it is not a solution to every concurrency issue

magic river
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infinite loops, random exceptions that make no sense, etc

waxen panther
magic river
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You don't control the HashMap, it's in World

warm anchor
waxen panther
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did a bunch of it and then fell asleep for 6 hours so pretty good

warm anchor
waxen panther
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i have 10 hours to finish the rest

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ez

magic river
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Plus with how block data is stored now in ChunkSections I think you could get all kinds of crazy trying to read from those while they're being modified too

hot hound
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I'm still on 1.8 so hehe :p

magic river
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Oh in that case ChunkSnapshot should only double memory usage πŸ˜›

hot hound
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memory isn't an issue

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we got a 128gb box πŸ™‚

magic river
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The snapshot has to be made on the main thread though so you still need some coordination

hot hound
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right

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hmm

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only thing is if the player is on the edge of chunks

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thats going to be super aids

magic river
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If you're willing to block when they cross chunk boundaries you could just come up with a thread-safe LRU and wait for the main thread to create a new snapshot on cache miss

hot hound
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nahh need every bit of performance as possible

magic river
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Too bad?

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That is every bit of performance possible πŸ˜›

potent fossil
hot hound
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well you would be blocking the netty threads?

magic river
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Yep

hot hound
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actually

magic river
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Not great but async chat event handlers do it all the time

hot hound
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interesting idea

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also whats an LRU lol

magic river
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.g LRU

limber knotBOT
magic river
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boo, fail google

hot hound
magic river
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.g LRU cache

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) In computing, cache algorithms are optimizing instructions, or algorithms, that a computer program or a hardware-maintained structure can utilize in order to manage a cache of information stored on the computer. Caching improves performance by keeping recent or often-used data items in memory locations that are faster or computationally cheaper to access than normal memory stores. When the cache is full, the algorithm must choose which items to d

magic river
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wtf bot

waxen panther
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lul

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bing moment

potent fossil
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it's DuckDuckGo

magic river
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oh, no wonder it sucks

potent fossil
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and cloudbot limits the msg size, it would normally have a link at the end

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im fixing it when i can

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sorry

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!ddg LRU cache

warm anchor
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.kill simple

potent fossil
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fuck

limber knotBOT
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gags and ties simple then throws them off a bridge.

potent fossil
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ddg! LRU cache

coarse hornetBOT
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See also:

Locality of reference - In computer science, locality of reference, also known as the principle of locality, is the tendency of a processor to access the same set of memory locations repetitively over a short period of time. There are two basic types of...
Distributed cache - In computing, a distributed cache is an extension of the traditional concept of cache used in a single locale. A distributed cache may span multiple servers so that it can grow in size and in transactional capacity.
magic river
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.g Java caffeine library

limber knotBOT
potent fossil
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i fucking love caffeine

magic river
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There, use that πŸ˜›

waxen panther
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caffeine is pog

hot hound
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How long should I store the ChunkSnapshot for

magic river
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That's what the LRU is for

hot hound
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should be fine to keep in memory until that player just logs out lets say?

magic river
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You set a cache size of, say, 1000 chunks, and then when you load up the 1001st it'll eject the 1st one to make room

hot hound
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ah I see

magic river
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Change cache size as appropriate for available memory and desired cache hit rate

hot hound
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right

magic river
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caffeine is so nice to you it even implements the ability to feed it some code to populate the cache on a miss

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Instead of you having to wrap the cache implementation in something that handles that

potent fossil
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also lets you wrap in futures if that's your cup of tea

magic river
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I want to say caffeine uses something better than LRU too

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There was a new technique that had similar overhead as LRU but the cache hit rate of LFU and I think caffeine was where it got tested when they were writing the paper

waxen panther
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it uses TinyLfu

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yeah

magic river
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I was looking at W-TinyLFU for a node cache thing a few months ago

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I think we ended up just using redis

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(because we wanted multiple instances to share the cache)

hot hound
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hmm

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okay

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so

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lets say

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my key is an chunk x and z

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and my value is the ChunkSnapshot

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sec am just trying to think of how to word this

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hmmm

void void
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anyone knows of a plugin similar to mobhunting?

hot hound
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wait a second

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If I'm using my chunk snapshot from the cache

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that will be out of sync when a player breaks a block or something?

magic river
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Yes

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You can't be in sync

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You can use a time-based eviction policy to get more up to date snapshots but that'll block more

hot hound
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yikes

merry talon
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lol I was just reading an article on Ristretto

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which is a go library inspired by caffeine

hot hound
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lmao these names

potent fossil
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why are you taking snapshots in the first place?

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do i just need to read up

hot hound
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well

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basically

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I need to get

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the player the block is standing on

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on the netty thread

potent fossil
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ok

magic river
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You need

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to hit enter

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less often

potent fossil
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:P

hot hound
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LOL sorry force of habit

magic river
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I was going to try to make that a haiku but that's too much effort

hot hound
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lets say player.getLocation.whatever on the netty thread

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whats the worse that could theoretically happen

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desync from the data I have / whats actually there?

magic river
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Why would you do getLocation if you're in the position packet handler?

hot hound
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the client could be doing something malicious like faking it or something πŸ˜› like a hacked client or sumthin

magic river
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Sure but you're getting the position packets

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Just store the last one

hot hound
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sure

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but I mean

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regardless of that, whats the worse that COULD happen

cunning raft
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total world corruption

hot hound
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lovely

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tbh

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I might just do

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playermoveevent and update a map or some object or something

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from the looks opf it

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everything still functions as it should

cunning raft
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this reeks of xy problem

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.xy

limber knotBOT
hot hound
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no no

waxen panther
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no he’s been talking about his problem for like 6 hours

hot hound
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that is what I am going to do

clever widget
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Help

waxen panther
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Help

clever widget
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yyes

limpid comet
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brocc

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hi

waxen panther
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peepocutewave

clever widget
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you are all no help

waxen panther
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ok

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.halp

spiral robin
limpid comet
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@spiral robin PES_Heart

spiral robin
clever widget
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im going to hurt someone

cunning raft
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k

limpid comet
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that's quite ominous

cosmic raft
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hm

coarse lily
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The host system is allocating a maximum of 1 cores to the application. A minimum of 4 is recommended.

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What the fuck, Nexus?

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Why do you need four cores?

spiral robin
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hm

golden gust
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it's a heavy app which does a lot of heavy tasks like indexing, etc

spiral robin
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hello @potent fossil

coarse lily
potent fossil
coarse lily
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Hi simple

spiral robin
potent fossil
spiral robin
coarse lily
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Wow.

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I hadn't put a lot of my self worth about what simple thought of me until this very moment.

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And I came up short!

potent fossil
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unless u wanna be my sugar daddy, then you can be really sexy

coarse lily
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I'm not even my own sugar daddy.

waxen panther
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mf

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expected delivery 22nd and it’s now the 26th and it hasn’t been dispatched

meager tusk
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Sucks to suck

waxen panther
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You would know

meager tusk
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no, i wouldn't

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I just know you suck

untold copper
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gm bois uwu

meager tusk
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Hacked

waxen panther
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Michael has told me differently

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hacked too

meager tusk
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michael? the same guy who thought adding config defaults was me hardcoding values?

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@twin lagoon

spiral robin
meager tusk
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Best. Aber. Ever. PES_Heart

spiral robin
coarse lily
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Looks promising.

golden gust
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Yea, i was gonna say that there was much ligher alternatives

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but, I was afraid you'd ask

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so

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git fukt

waxen panther
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it's missing a lot of features but its nice for small repos

golden gust
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or something

waxen panther
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my repo uses it

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and i run it on like 32mb of ram so PepeLa

golden gust
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does it support mirroring?

waxen panther
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I dont think so

golden gust
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oh, yea, it does

waxen panther
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mine has the most basic possible config PepeLaugh

golden gust
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I take advantage of things like mirroring repos, etc

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makes it handy because there's always some repo which 20 plugins depend on which always died

meager tusk
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that name is super practical

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fuck they should have switched the s and the i

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RepoIsLite

spiral robin
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Hah good one idriz

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Brocc close discord and do work

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Cat keep being you GWcmeisterPeepoLove

golden gust
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idek what's going on

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I think I went to lie down at like, 11:30 or something? maybe?

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time is weird

coarse lily
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Time is meaningless!

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Today was a rough day.

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Got very little sleep and woke up very early from construction dudes.

waxen panther
golden gust
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Well, my computer said it went to sleep at like 10:30, and I woke up at like 4:30, realised i left the heating on and didn't grab any dinner, sooo, i sorta lazed in bed as I cba, then finally got up, and it's like, I gotta wait for food to settle, but, do I go back to bed soon? do I accept that aI'm up?

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Like

spiral robin
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love u more x

golden gust
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this adulting is hard

waxen panther
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i have broken free of the mortal chains of a sleep schedule

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i exist in a permanent state of yawn and have ascended

meager tusk
#

Okay brocc when do you wake up

waxen panther
#

i woke up at 11pm yesterday

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and went to bed at 7pm

meager tusk
#

sorry

waxen panther
meager tusk
#

11PM??

waxen panther
#

yes

meager tusk
#

Like

waxen panther
#

its currently 6am

meager tusk
#

yes it is

#

it is currently 6 AM

waxen panther
#

peepo clap jammin

golden gust
#

my one goal for today is to be awake when amazon arrives with my new chair

meager tusk
#

i was gonna say something along the lines of "i wake up at 5am you don't know struggle" but

#

you clearly uhh

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gg brocc

waxen panther
#

thank you

coarse lily
#

Is it a fancy chair, cat?

waxen panther
#

i will hold this achievement dearly

vestal jasper
#

I work weekends AND wake up at 5 am. You don't know struggle @meager tusk

golden gust
#

I found out that the lifty thingy has split, which, doesn't surprise me as the chairs always been sorta like oddly wobbly, seems like it finally found a way to split

#

Nah, not really

vestal jasper
#

retail hype PeepoClapHappy

golden gust
#

I'm sorta like, small amounts of freelancing, so, can't/don't wanna go stupid on a chair

vestal jasper
#

I'm scheduled to never have weekends off, too 🀠

meager tusk
#

oof wtf

golden gust
#

Not to mention, I will basically spend weeks deciding on something to buy, I've lived here for almost 6 months and haven't even bought a kettle yet

magic river
#

You can get a decent executive chair from amazon for like $100

meager tusk
#

do you not have any days off?

vestal jasper
#

My days off are tuesday and wednesday

meager tusk
#

ah

magic river
#

It'll only last a year but whatever, it's $100

meager tusk
#

that kinda sucks lol

#

days off should be saturday and sunday

golden gust
#

yea, I spent a bit more than that, not by much

magic river
#

If you aren't very big and don't abuse it it'll probably make it way longer than a year

#

I have to get an executive chair otherwise I don't get any back support

golden gust
#

This chair I've got now lasted like 2 and a bit years, it's similar to one by grandfather bought years ago on which the lifter mechanism disappeared

magic river
#

As in my head is always left floating even though the top of these things is supposed to be a headrest

golden gust
#

See, this chair softa likes move around, so, I can't even really use the backrest as otherwise it leans too far

magic river
#

Really screwed me on the gaming chair I tried, the headrest there is really prominent so dug in to my back, I had to remove it (luckily you could) and then the chair only went halfway up my back again

golden gust
#

Like, to the point where I've literally had the chair go flying, so, went for a chair which looked a bit more substantial than this one

vestal jasper
#

I have 40 sick hours saved up though so I could start spending those kek

golden gust
#

I think part of the reason why the older chair my grandfather had lasted so long is coz the lifter would always sorta like sink down, you'd sit down in the morning, raise it up, go make a cup of tea, sit down and you'd just get this sinking feeling

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you gave up tryna convince the damned thing to actually stay up so you'd just be there peeking over the desk like the neighbour in home improvement

meager tusk
#

Germans make the best stuff

#

I've had the same german chair for like 7 years

#

and it has never broken

golden gust
#

Yea, eventual goal is that covid fucks off, I get a proper job and look for a chair which will last me far too long

#

Like, you know the chairs, the material is a tad bit worn, but, daaamn it's moulded to my ass and comfy af

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lol

magic river
#

If I could find one for less than $1000 I want to get a good executive chair with mesh instead of padding

spiral robin
#

Lmfao brocc

magic river
#

But they're all either junk, short, or wouldn't hold my fat ass

coarse lily
#

I had a nice Aeron chair that I got for pennies through an office sale.

magic river
#

Or some combination of all three

coarse lily
#

Not my favorite chair but pretty good chair.

vestal jasper
#

Idriz from my experience they value you being able to work weekends more than they value your ability to do basic tasks KEKWHYPER

coarse lily
#

Sold it when I moved because it was too clunky to pack :(

golden gust
#

Like, mesh mesh, or, mesh fabric over something else?

vestal jasper
#

at least some of the people at my place

magic river
#

Mesh mesh

golden gust
#

Coz, I've seen the mesh chairs but they just don't really seem like they'd last or be comfortable for stupid lenghts of times

magic river
#

No padding or anything, just the mesh attached to a metal frame

#

It's less of a thing now I guess but they're amazing in warmer environments

golden gust
#

true, this fake leather is a bitch in summers

magic river
#

Now that I'm not in a place where "cold winter night" means 60F I don't need that so much

golden gust
#

πŸ˜„

meager tusk
magic river
#

Had to leave my AC set at like 76F there otherwise my utilities cost as much as my rent πŸ˜›

meager tusk
#

they're very efficient

golden gust
#

hey, a closed factory still has to pay for rent

#

might as well get something out of it

#

The Aeron chair is an office chair sold by Herman Miller, first released in 1994. In 2010, it was called "America's best-selling chair" and is featured in the Museum of Modern Art's permanent collection. It was designed by Don Chadwick and Bill Stumpf and has received numerous accolades for its industrial design.

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lol

civic wadi
#

Hi, idk where to ask this question. Maybe here someone can help. I want to change the spawn point when a player enters the end portal in the regular world.

coarse lily
#

I think /setworldspawn works in the end.

civic wadi
coarse lily
#

Ah yeah looks like it's overworld only.

civic wadi
#

So there is now way to change end spawn location

coarse lily
#

With multiverse probably. With a plugin most likely. Using built-in mechanics I don't think so.

civic wadi
#

I have multiverse

coarse lily
#

Oh then you can do it with multiverse pretty easy.

civic wadi
#

How?

coarse lily
#

Check the mv docs for changing spawn points

formal turret
#

setworldspawn with vanilla command? that or ya multiverse

civic wadi
#

setworldspawn didn't work, same as setspawn

coarse lily
#

I'm guessing you found it since you deleted that last message?

civic wadi
#

Yes, I found the wiki, not the setting

coarse lily
#

Try Googling something like "multiverse set spawn point"

civic wadi
#

I want players be teleported when the enter the natural portal

coarse lily
#

Try changing the spawn point using the mv commands in the end and see if that works.

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But if it doesn't then no idea.

dusk drift
spiral robin
waxen panther
#

thank you aber

rare herald
spiral robin
#

hello brocc <3

#

hello intelli <3

waxen panther
#

aber πŸ₯Ί

rare herald
#

Heya

coarse lily
#

There's a lot going on in that github issue.

rare herald
#

And no exploits that I’m aware of

coarse lily
#

Why even open a github issue for that?

#

It literally says "do not report this"

#

Although I guess it says don't report it to Paper, and they didn't.

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So.

potent fossil
#

Reading? What's that?

spiral robin
#

simple catblushy

potent fossil
#

aber awkwardflushed

spiral robin
potent fossil
#

πŸ₯Ί pleadingtomatopleadingtacopleadingpeach

spiral robin
#

kashike pleadblush

potent fossil
spiral robin
#

gm @mossy vessel tacoPlead

limber knotBOT
#

what the fuck

waxen panther
#

HELLO PROXI

#

are you feeling nice now ?

#

after how much of a BULLY you were earlier .

spiral robin
#

hello proxi please

potent fossil
#

pwoxi bulli?

#

never .

coarse lily
#

Hi proxi

potent fossil
#

i am feeling good .

limber knotBOT
#

I am watching Snowpiercer so I am epic

coarse lily
#

Movie or TV show?

spiral robin
limber knotBOT
#

Show, ocelot

#

They just didn't warn anyone about it, so now S2's out

coarse lily
#

Oh nice.

#

I've been meaning to watch the show.

#

I dug the movie.

coarse lily
spiral robin
#

ok, grandpa

#

<3

coarse lily
#

:)

potent fossil
#

Well

#

It is a browser...

#

πŸ‘€

coarse lily
#

Haha true!

agile pine
#

that was nice of him? i guess?

waxen panther
#

never trust someone with an anime avatar

agile pine
#

buahahaha

potent fossil
thorny igloo
#

who do i report dm advertising to

#

(please ping me if you have an answer)

potent fossil
#

@thorny igloo DM a mod. Look in the right.

thorny igloo
#

ok thanks

coarse lily
#

DM for Matt!

cosmic raft
#

hi

thorny totem
#

Hi

spiral robin
#

hello kashike.

cosmic raft
#

aber!

spiral robin
#

@cosmic raft dance https://youtu.be/9bZkp7q19f0

PSY - β€˜I LUV IT’ M/V @ https://youtu.be/Xvjnoagk6GU
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PSY - 8TH ALBUM '4X2=8' on iTunes @
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More about PSY@
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β–Ά Play video
#

hiii

cosmic raft
#

no

spiral robin
#

lol

cosmic raft
#

not that song

thorny totem
#

Minecraft style!

spiral robin
untold copper
thorny totem
#

lol 69 fps

#

Are you like me? xD

untold copper
#

no

thorny totem
#

aww xD

spiral robin
#

heh

solid siren
#

hii anyone using multiverse portal here?

limber knotBOT
#

?ask

#

rip bot

#

anyways, just ask an actual question please

golden gust
#

.ask

limber knotBOT
#

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

#

I wanna use korobi tho cat, I wanna use cafebabe!

solid siren
#

multiverse support is very slow so im just gonna try here, is it possible to make a portal that teleport u randomly

golden gust
#

don't think so

#

more in the line of RTP plugins there

solid siren
#

i see thankss

#

i tried using gamerule spawnradius 100000

#

to make a random spawn

#

do u have any idea why it still teleport me in the exact spawn

coarse lily
mossy vessel
olive garden
viral hornet
olive garden
#

hook that up to an RTP plugin like DarkEyeDragon's RandomTeleport

mossy vessel
#

Sounds good

waxen panther
viral hornet
#

is it more tuna in a can

waxen panther
#

no we're living it large today

#

😎

viral hornet
#

brocc

#

no

twin lagoon
#

camm...

waxen panther
#

dont puke emoji me

#

😠

viral hornet
#

michael ?

mossy vessel
#

cheap stuff

merry talon
#

a decent image sharing domain

twin lagoon
merry talon
#

yeah but some of us have to roll our own

waxen panther
#

imagine being able to use whats this

#

must be nice πŸ™„

merry talon
#

we're still in beta

solid siren
#

what would happen if i reduce max world size from 30m to 3m?
will it reset the world?

golden gust
#

no, it will just move the world border, i think

solid siren
#

i see thankss

ashen cliff
#

MFW I buy a new network switch with 0 instructions: kekwhyper

#

It do be a nice color tho.

cosmic raft
#

Waystream?

ashen cliff
#

Yeah.

#

Any inside info?

#

I'ma need some of that firmware and maybe a bootloader for it.

#

I did find a installation guide for it.

cosmic raft
#

Did you buy it new or used?

ashen cliff
#

Good question. New but from a overstock seller.

solid siren
#

ive been looking for an hour now
u guys know any good random spawn or even portal that teleports randomly plugin? for java 1.16

ashen cliff
#

Essentials has random teleport build in if you are looking for that.

olive garden
#

and I've answered an hour ago

visual egret
#

Quantum

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or deds rtp plugin

#

@solid siren

solid siren
#

thankss

#

ill try

olive garden
#

let's just pretend that they weren't mentioned before

visual egret
#

😎 the invisible message

ashen cliff
#

No.

visual egret
#

yes

limpid comet
#

i just cooked up some ground beef

#

should i just eat it or do something with it

olive garden
#

depends on how confident you are in your cooking skills

mental meadow
#

Name for my new NAS: sodium sulfide

limpid comet
#

absolutely no confidence

#

the fact that this ground beef is bearable is truly a marvel

twin lagoon
ashen cliff
#

πŸ‘

twin lagoon
#

why is authenticating with SSH so fucking hard inyourkit

#

there we go after multiple time of restarting it and setting permissions properly it connects

#

nor does it support fucking ed25519 in 2020

thorny rivet
#

I've been planning an rpg/dungeon crawl Server concept and as part of the analysis, I've been wondering whether you guys think there may be a demand for nice rpg/spells/bossfight action or not. I guess wynncraft and hypixel draw a lot of people, but is there space for another one?
I'm mostly in my German bubble where it mostly depends on getting big youtubers to advertise, but the concept still needs to be appealing. A Lot of servers have rpgy survival, do people rather like vanilla then?
Also minecraft dungeons didnt really take off I guess

left swift
#

Minecraft dungeons didnt really take off cuz it was short and no new content right

ashen cliff
#

Wasn't there a WoW like server some years back, might be able to pick up some ideas from there.

left swift
#

Theres a runescape mc server too

ashen cliff
#

Epic.

thorny rivet
vernal moth
#

There is def interest in high quality RPG servers

#

See dyescape

#

Nothing to show, yet ppl are aware of it and filled the discord and forums and alpha signup list

ashen cliff
#

Best I can say is good luck. Just watch out, YouTubers mostly bring short term players.

visual egret
#

Anyone know a good implementation of AirDrop on windows?

thorny rivet
#

I wonder if I somehow could test the waters

thorny rivet
ashen cliff
#

If you have an existing community, you can try there.

vernal moth
#

Building a community around a in dev project is def interesting, as you can see in dyescape

#

It's a trade off tho, many ppl will loose interest if they find out you are not releasing soon and have a bad association with your name

golden gust
#

Same issue with hypickle

#

They hype'd the world up with the game years ago

vernal moth
#

That's a bit different since their scope changed drastically

#

So they got an excuse

#

But yeah

golden gust
#

Don't recall really seeing their scope changing

thorny rivet
#

Yeah, but you need a critical mass for the launch at least

#

And I guess the dev/build processs could also yield content for Marketing/influencing

#

Of course only a few will keep being hyped

vernal moth
#

That's what they said cat, blown away from the giant response, gotta make sure to be able to deliver on what ppl think hytale is, getting riot involved, etc

#

Dev logs are always cool

#

And you can use your community as early play testers and rubber ducks for design ideas

thorny rivet
#

If I manage to reach that stage, Yeah

twin lagoon
#

hytale is still going to succeed though

#

it doesn't have as much hype as on the first trailer obviously but it'll be everywhere once it's out

ashen cliff
#

Due to Tencent?

worn ember
#

did someone say rtp

vernal moth
#

Tencent isn't really involved

#

And even riot is mostly only on the business side and advisors

#

Altho some of their team are ex riot

#

Including noxy

worn ember
#

they shouldve waited to hype up the game

#

now all the hype is dead

#

and its not even released yet

vernal moth
#

It will return easily tho

#

And that hype allowed them to get riot involved

#

I would call having one of the biggest game companies behind you a success

#

Now they got all the time and money they want to deliver their dream project

ashen cliff
#

Regrades I'm going to use the Tienanmen Square copy pasta in that game every time I play.

worn ember
#

"biggest" they have one dum game runs

vernal moth
#

The what?

vernal moth
worn ember
vernal moth
#

Look at the numbers, lol

golden gust
#

bunch of texts which references the square and varying other terms which are basically slated to auto-boot chinese peeps from the internet

worn ember
#

numbers of what? Total players? Sales? Concurrent players?

twin lagoon
#

shut up dota fanboy

worn ember
#

i'm not a dota fanboy, i'm a gabe fanboy

vernal moth
#

CCU

#

League has a monthly ccu of like 120 million

ashen cliff
#

I'm surprised that Mini doesn't know about that copy pasta.

vernal moth
#

In comparison, that just a bit lower than total copies of minecraft sold

#

Dota has monthly active user of like 50 million

#

Sorry 10

waxen panther
#

lmao

worn ember
#

i never compared it to dota lmao

vernal moth
#

50 million was daily active users of league

waxen panther
#

ded ur mr dota

#

what else where you comparing it to

golden gust
#

I'll compare my fist to ur face, up close

waxen panther
#

ok 😳

golden gust
#

I might go get a chip barm :L

worn ember
#

yeah whatever i'll just go play some fortnight

golden gust
#

scr00b

waxen panther
#

speaking of!

#

has anyone seen ninja recently

#

my mans gone years without a sandwich

worn ember
#

who?

twin lagoon
#

brocc tacoplead

waxen panther
twin lagoon
#

yes

waxen panther
#

what happened man

twin lagoon
#

i was about to say

waxen panther
#

michael love

worn ember
#

dude looks like he's 60 now

twin lagoon
#

dude looks homeless now wdym fire

waxen panther
#

ah yes

#

Funny tiktok content

worn ember
#

has he not been eating or something

#

guess they were out of sandwiches and he had to cross the world to get some

waxen panther
#

idk

#

mans looking rough though

#

:(

worn ember
#

guess thats what fortnite does to you

clever widget
#

whats the best plugin to remove lag/use less ram

#

ive seen many but idk which one is good

olive garden
#

none

clever widget
#

what

twin lagoon
#

you don't remove lag or use less ram with plugins

left swift
#

Just download more ram lol

limber knotBOT
#

No need to download

#

Just dedotate it

worn ember
#

anyone planning on getting Dyson Sphere Program?

olive garden
#

is that SimCity in space and in the dark?

#

bruh I have to complete a captcha to google something

ashen cliff
#

When you finally solve the Google captcha and then the Cloudflare one shows up. kekwhyper

unreal quarry
#

do not recommend trying

left swift
#

Yall clowning on him but hes always been insanely skinny might just have a hard time retaining weight

visual egret
ashen cliff
#

We don't support drug usage. But we do condone it.

left swift
worn ember
olive garden
spare venture
#

what is that game called

olive garden
#

actually, let me ask the others

worn ember
#

Dyson Sphere Program

#

i havent played SE in so long

olive garden
#

me neither

spare venture
#

SE never looked good to me

worn ember
#

its fun but its very overwhelming tbh

#

like the scale of everything

#

its fun tho

spare venture
#

ooh it looks cool

#

my pc can't run it tho

left swift
#

The clunkyness of the movement in se always gave me a headache

worn ember
#

Like the orientation? Or like the actual movement

meager tusk
#

@twin lagoon pleadingtaco

twin lagoon
#

@viral hornet tacoplead

olive marlin
#

@twin lagoon pepeclap

twin lagoon
waxen panther
olive marlin
#

I wanted to update to 1.16.5, but worked overtime yesterday for 15 hours and I'm dead now...

ashen cliff
#

Do it anyway.

#

The worst you have to do is class edit some BS.

#

Every. Single. Time.

olive marlin
#

I'll probably update on Thursday. Need to get some sleep earlier and download plugins and test it.

#

I hate being so out of date.

#

Few more weeks and I should be done with University bullshit though.

limber knotBOT
#

god I hate discord servers that block you from writing messages for 10 minutes -.-

cunning raft
#

it's raid protection

limber knotBOT
#

I know, but it sucks

cunning raft
#

altho it would be nice to let users who phone numbers on acc bypass it

limber knotBOT
#

bots aren't going to have a verified account with telephone and 2fa anyway...

ashen cliff
#

You need to have a verified phone number to write here.

cunning raft
#

that's an option lul

twin lagoon
#

sms verification can be bought for literally nothing

limber knotBOT
#

I mean, what is stopping them from waiting 10 minutes though?

cunning raft
#

i mean if someone goes to that length ur gg anyway

#

this is just supposed to prevent kids

limber knotBOT
#

all it does is inconvenience legitimate users

tropic flame
#

it would be cool if they actually let you customize the time to wait without having to resort to bots for that functionality

#

like yo i like the "needs to be registered in discord for more than 5 minutes" option but the "5 minutes" part is what's stupid to me

#

I want to make it 6 months LOL

tall goblet
#

Hey, I am an mc server admin. I noticed a slightly performance increase updating from 1.16.4 -> 1.16.5.

But I am not able to measure the difference. Is there any resource to see how much of a difference there is in %?

twin lagoon
#

not really no

#

there is an improvement in entity ticking in 1.16.5 though

#

something related to inactive entities

limber knotBOT
#

and I doubt I'll get an aswer to my question anyways... I guess I can just ask here if someone knows if PlotSquared has group support like WorldGuard does xD

tall goblet
limber knotBOT
#

that's where I asked already and nobody replied in 5 whole minutes!!!11 :P

clever widget
#

how do i reduce server ram usage

next frost
#

no one answers in community support

limber knotBOT
#

(actually it's 10 now πŸ‘€ )

twin lagoon
#

the only time you should care about RAM is when it crashes for out of memory

limber knotBOT
#

so you have to spam the wrong channels to get answers? noted

twin lagoon
#

or you have GC issues

clever widget
#

that’s what it’s doing

tall goblet
#

πŸ˜€πŸ˜…πŸ˜‚

meager tusk
olive marlin
#

Getting OOM - reduce Xmx

meager tusk
clever widget
#

server only stays up bc i have a keep alive thing

next frost
#

plot membership is something that needs some more love in future

twin lagoon
#

or when your server ddosses players

next frost
#

currently, you can only add everyone or single users

meager tusk
#

that ain't me

tall goblet
limber knotBOT
#

oof :S

twin lagoon
meager tusk
#

no he does not

tall goblet
#

Why should he though?

clever widget
#

how do i make it use less ram then

twin lagoon
#

you stop caring

clever widget
#

since it’s crashing

twin lagoon
#

provide the stacktrace of it crashing

solemn bay
#

can some1 tell me how can i update my paper?

twin lagoon
#

you replace the server jar file

solemn bay
#

just that?

twin lagoon
#

yes

solemn bay
#

lol thankyou

#

i thought there was a command or something

#

1 more thing

#

i want to deploy a skyblock server via paper

#

is that possible?

twin lagoon
#

yes

tall goblet
#

Download it and replace. Backup your files first. There is no guarantee that it will not mess up your server files.

solemn bay
#

sorry i am new to this stuff

tall goblet
#

ZIP everything

solemn bay
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only been 2 weeks since i started this

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ahh

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okay

tall goblet
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np

solemn bay
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how can i make a skyblock server

twin lagoon
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it's best to get the basics

solemn bay
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will extracting the zip file do?

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after executing the jar

solemn bay
twin lagoon
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someone should really just make a guide for the very basics

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lol