#general

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robust tiger
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world gen

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would be pain

worn ember
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Just make it faster. Ez

olive marlin
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Just make it multithreaded smh

cunning raft
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it already is

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so idk what that guy is talking about

limber knotBOT
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Is there a link for this blog post?

worn ember
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karianna

Howdy, I’m the Group engineering manager for Java at Microsoft (yep we now do Java!). Our group is working on minecraft’s perf (starting with server) so expect a steady rate of improvement over the 2021

robust tiger
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its great to hear anything about it

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but

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if its gonna end up like 1.14 with their new lighting engine

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ill pass

worn ember
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it can only go up tbh

wide chasm
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You clearly haven't seen what they're capable of

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They can go much further down if they want to

worn ember
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smh

robust tiger
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i thought sculk sensors would be the nail in the coffin

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but im impressed for now

cunning raft
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they're actually well made

robust tiger
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yeah

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not rushed

limber knotBOT
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you mean "well made after the obvious performance issues that were instantly found were fixed"?

cunning raft
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the initial impli could have been much worse

worn ember
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Phoenix, where is your multi billion dollar game?

olive marlin
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I'm not expecting much to improve for 1.17 tbh.

limber knotBOT
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let me remind you that I own the domain minecraft.ceo

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runs

olive marlin
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But hope that from 1.18 it'll slowly start getting better.

robust tiger
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1.17 might hit servers even more but maybe after things will be better

worn ember
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thats sick bro

wide chasm
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As long as performance doesn't get worse, I'll take that as a win

limber knotBOT
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1.17 snapshot paper would answer out question right about now

robust tiger
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1.17 wHeN??!?

cunning raft
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ping wiz for eta

ashen cliff
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Just update FukkitMC/CannedTater to the snapshot and try out today.

cunning raft
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when paper gets mojmap mini said something about snapshots

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idk

robust tiger
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snapshots bad

olive marlin
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Paperweight wen?

limber knotBOT
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but fukkit is based on cb, and cb bad

robust tiger
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cb > spigot

ashen cliff
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Let's hope we have to compile it our self.

olive marlin
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Paper is also based on cb

ashen cliff
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Since supporting that would be a pain.

olive marlin
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Paper bad.

limber knotBOT
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what, snapshot paper?

cunning raft
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maybe

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would be technically possible with mojmap

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remap spigot/cb patches to mojmap and apply on snapshot

olive marlin
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Mini said we need paperweight and hangar first. Then Paper will think about hard fork, which would let paper do snapshots.

limber knotBOT
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Plugins having to support snapshot versions will be even more fun

cunning raft
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i mean having is a strong word

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but could be cool if plugin devs could have a say in api rather than it being dumped on you in a "stable" release

olive marlin
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I'd imagine they'd be mainly for developers and people testing stuff out.

limber knotBOT
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The issue is that if plugins do not support the all versions, then they will often get request for porting their plugin to those completely unused versions

cunning raft
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i don't think that would happen with snapshots

olive marlin
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AFAIK paper doesn't want to build paperclip for snapshots, you'd have to build it yourself.

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So most people won't be able to run it lol

limber knotBOT
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oi cool

robust tiger
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why even play snapshots when theres like one dupe item and crash bug in each of them

olive marlin
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To test them?

worn ember
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to test stuff out

vernal moth
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We don't want to be in a situation where we are pressured to release snapshots

limber knotBOT
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Although everything is fine and dandy until some sites redistribute those old ass paperclip builds

robust tiger
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id wait for a full release and then test a paper build

vernal moth
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We would only make it because a) a contributor was paid for it, b) a contributor got drunk enough to do it and c) in the last few snapshots as preparation for the update

worn ember
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its a lot easier and cheaper to fix stuff in snapshots

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than having to release patches

woven otter
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runs

untold copper
cunning raft
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heh

next frost
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don't try to edit a decompiled file?

cunning raft
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do you know what you're doing

vernal moth
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It's a .class

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You can't edit it

untold copper
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hm

ashen cliff
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Get a java class editor. Plenty of them out there.

limber knotBOT
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At least in eclipse you wouldn't get any info

woven otter
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decompile it and add it as a source file KEK

untold copper
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ok so if i want to add disabled commands

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what should i do

worn ember
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download the src instead

limber knotBOT
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Recaf is one java class editor I know of, but yes, plenty out there

untold copper
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what if there's no src

cunning raft
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decompile it

limber knotBOT
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If you are not dealing with obfuscated code, you can decompile it

woven otter
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decompile it

limber knotBOT
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Otherwise, that won't work

untold copper
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ok time to figure out how to decompile

woven otter
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use a decompiler

limber knotBOT
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Enums + simple obfuscation = tricking every compiler in existence (at least the 4 big ones)

untold copper
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okokokok

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so i've decompiled

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now edit

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and then what?

olive marlin
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Compile.

untold copper
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how you edit .java re

cunning raft
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learn java

mossy vessel
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Imagine wasting time on plugins which are non oss lul

untold copper
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ok done

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time to compile

robust tiger
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learn java
30 seconds later...
ok done

untold copper
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ok so the idea is

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decompile the .class

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then edit, compile and replace in archive?

minor badge
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wonder why we have so many decompile fixes in paper hmm might it be bc its not flawless hmmm

limber knotBOT
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I think you need to decompile the whole jar in order for javac to work

woven otter
untold copper
limber knotBOT
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Yeah, decompilation is pretty flawed

minor badge
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and no ya dont geo

mossy vessel
unkempt drift
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what are you trying to do Snoopa

minor badge
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you can use smth like maven or gradle to depend on the original jar, decompile 1 class and let it take the place in the final jar

untold copper
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edit a .class to add 2 lines

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.-.

woven otter
limber knotBOT
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You could alternatively make use of a bytecode editor iirc

unkempt drift
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why?

woven otter
untold copper
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cos its an old af plugin that needs to be edited from there (I guess™️)

limber knotBOT
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Works especially well if you want to remove stuff

mossy vessel
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No risks, just happy side effects

woven otter
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happy accidents?

limber knotBOT
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But ... impersonation ....

woven otter
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There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue.

Native memory allocation (malloc) failed to allocate 1686976 bytes for Chunk::new

FeelsCryingMan

untold copper
visual egret
woven otter
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everything for a price

limber knotBOT
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You need to put it in a maven/gradle project, too much hassle

untold copper
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please?

visual egret
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@untold copper that wont compile

limber knotBOT
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ofc it won't

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Why is it even extends plugin?

minor badge
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thats completely valid

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its stupid but 100% valid to extend plugin

limber knotBOT
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What's the difference between Plugin and JavaPlugin anyways?

minor badge
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yes

worn ember
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the name

minor badge
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javaplugin has some more api

woven otter
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the cost

visual egret
minor badge
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because yes

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i havent opened the file

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i commented geo's statement

worn ember
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lol, i'm shitting on my employers developed logo

minor badge
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if only that was made clear a whopping 1 whole message down

worn ember
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ion like it

limber knotBOT
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It's missing the imports it seems like

untold copper
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sometimes im surprised by how little i know...

limber knotBOT
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etc is likely a static variable from another class that was imported via import static

worn ember
untold copper
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sadge

worn ember
untold copper
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resistance on rtp so u dont die

worn ember
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oh right rip

olive marlin
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Imagine making unsafe RTP plugin.

worn ember
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its safe in 99% of cases

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the edge cases are due to shitty tps anyway

spiral robin
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hello

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proxi cutePepeWave

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ded cutemeowwaveawa

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bloodstone peepoSmile

zealous wedge
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hi aber 💜

spiral robin
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zml aPES_Cuddle

olive marlin
worn ember
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yeah

olive marlin
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Aber peepoheart

worn ember
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ive ran tests with 5k teleports and non of them failed

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so its not my fault™️

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in the rare case you do die theres a death timer that resets your items if you happen to die

untold copper
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add it anyways

worn ember
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you add it

mental meadow
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aber zml meowhug

worn ember
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on second thought, dont add it

untold copper
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teach me to code 🥺

worn ember
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i'm refactoring like 90% of that mess anyway, just to prove proxi my iq is above 5

zealous wedge
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awara ameowcomfywave

spiral robin
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awarura catblushy

visual egret
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untold copper
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lol my pc ain't cheap like you

warm anchor
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Hey children... no fighting rielove

spiral robin
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eternity pleadblush

warm anchor
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idk... I played apex with brocoolai yesterday though..

visual egret
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snoopa 1v1 me on minecraft rn

worn ember
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ok ur dead to me

warm anchor
untold copper
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owo apex

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play fortnite with me :3

untold copper
worn ember
visual egret
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thats the upside of having original names

warm anchor
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I wanna name myself Eternityzyg too but it was taken

untold copper
olive marlin
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Oskar, is second part of your username a start of your second name or surname?

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Cause it sounds like it lol

visual egret
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surname

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i dont have a second name

warm anchor
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~~oskar what's your full name ~~

olive marlin
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My second name is the same as the first 4 letters of my surname >.>

warm anchor
olive marlin
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It's fun.

spiral robin
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Bloodstone Bloo

worn ember
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inb4 Bloodstone Bloodstone

olive marlin
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People think part of my surname got into my name field lol

worn ember
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did ur mom fuck up when registering your name and just doesnt want to admit it?

olive marlin
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Nope.

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It's a name.

worn ember
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i'd hope so

visual egret
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what is the name

olive marlin
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It's an "old-polish" (idk how to call it better, it's not ancient) name.

visual egret
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my friend just sent me that clip

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i love it

worn ember
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I put my world on max render distance and i still can't find who asked

visual egret
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huh

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not funny

worn ember
untold copper
visual egret
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no it wasnt

worn ember
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dont be salty oskar, you know i love you

visual egret
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🇳 🇴

untold copper
visual egret
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i hate english homework

spiral robin
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ok

shy tundra
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hey guys

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i need some help

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im on the KVM of Ovh and i cant get managed to reset all the iptable rules

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i did get out of access

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i tried removing ufw and iptables --flush

twin lagoon
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$IPT=iptables

$IPT -P INPUT ACCEPT
$IPT -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
$IPT -P FORWARD ACCEPT

$IPT -t nat -F
$IPT -t nat -X
$IPT -t mangle -F
$IPT -t mangle -X
$IPT -F
$IPT -X

warm anchor
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Michael do you just have that on the side or you typed all that lol

shy tundra
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i have to execute every single command_

cosmic raft
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why is there a variable for the command

shy tundra
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?

cosmic raft
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lol

zealous wedge
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I assume it's copied from sth designed as a reusable script

twin lagoon
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^

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although honestly

warm anchor
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I see LOL

twin lagoon
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no clue why people do so

zealous wedge
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where you might want to control which binary u use

viral hornet
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Michael

twin lagoon
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i just saw other people doing so as variable

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so figured fuck it up why not

shy tundra
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still not understanding...

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what i have to do

twin lagoon
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run the shit i just sent

shy tundra
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im in the KVM

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i cant copy and paste.

twin lagoon
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then type it over

shy tundra
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$IPT=iptables

$IPT -P INPUT ACCEPT
$IPT -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
$IPT -P FORWARD ACCEPT

$IPT -t nat -F
$IPT -t nat -X
$IPT -t mangle -F
$IPT -t mangle -X
$IPT -F
$IPT -X

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IPTABLES -P INPUT ACCEPT

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and start executing every command_

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?

twin lagoon
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literally

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type every line i just sent

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and press enter

zealous wedge
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it's not that hard lol

shy tundra
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not working

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executed in that order

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but wont ping back or any

spiral robin
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hello michael

twin lagoon
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then you've got a different issue than iptables

shy tundra
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ufw_

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i did had UFW

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but i removed it

twin lagoon
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well you've flushed everything already

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so it's not a firewall issue

shy tundra
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what could it be then ?

twin lagoon
visual egret
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nuke the install kekwhyper

potent fossil
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god damn my history teacher is just droning on, like imagine the most monotonous fucking voice and then make it more monotonous

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i wanna slaap

queen moat
zealous wedge
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ok

queen moat
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is this normal

twin lagoon
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well no shit

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bungee is inefficient

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yes it is normal

queen moat
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jeez

twin lagoon
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use velocitypowered

queen moat
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I'm dependent on some stupid queue plugin that only exists in bungee

void void
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hey guys where's the firespread setting?

zealous wedge
shy tundra
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hey

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how can i acces from a dedi to another dedi_

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?

twin lagoon
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by simply... sshing into it

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like normal

olive marlin
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Michael pepeclap

twin lagoon
spiral robin
spare venture
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so I noticed the military has been hardcore trying to recruit me lately.. wonder what for

spiral robin
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partyrealms stock

warm anchor
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that's like their prime target for enlisting lol

spiral robin
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i am also a highschool grud

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are you a highschool grud eternity?

spare venture
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Just finished my bachelors

twin lagoon
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@spiral robin clappywappy

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@olive marlin clappywappy

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@minor badge pepelove

spiral robin
zealous wedge
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I assume for whatever flavour of engineering you did?

spare venture
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I graduated over a month ago but the past week or so I have been getting texted daily

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I don’t know

zealous wedge
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is that what being American is?

spare venture
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“Hello this is Staff Sergeant Pirrello with Army Medical Recruiting. I wanted to send you a personal invite to speak with us about the Health Professions Scholarship Program.

It is a full tuition scholarship for those seeking to attend medical school. If you would like to hear more, or have questions please let me know. “

zealous wedge
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oh wat

formal turret
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i got called once by a recruiter after i graduated and that was that

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was kinda whack

spare venture
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I’ve been getting texted frequently ever since I graduated hs tbh

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But these past two weeks have been excessive

void void
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is army mandatory there

zealous wedge
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I've never been contacted by any military lol

spare venture
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I thought spam/unsolicited SMS was illegal?

formal turret
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it's not mandatory no

zealous wedge
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it's not mikro

void void
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if not then just shrug it off

formal turret
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all volunteer

void void
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here's mandatory :))))

spare venture
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Getting spam texted by the military is annoying

zealous wedge
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but any amab person is legally required to register for the draft

formal turret
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why would you get one for medical tho party

spare venture
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Who knows

formal turret
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not even related to what you did in college?

spare venture
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Yeah

zealous wedge
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there's a whole thing with the us military recruiting people by being their only way to afford university

spare venture
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Yup that’s why the military is opposed to free tuition or cancelling loans

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Huge chunk of military people are only there to pay for college

warm anchor
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yes

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I mean it works.. you trade your life time for free school

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a good deal for otherwise really poor family

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Plus you will be fit as a bonus Think

twin lagoon
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US problems

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imagine not going to school for free

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

peak ginkgo
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finnish people rn: PepeHands

spare venture
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Well you do have Russia right there, am not surprised

warm anchor
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meanwhile in US, we train for like wut??? world police KEK

spare venture
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Imperialism

peak ginkgo
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You are now responsible for everything

zealous wedge
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the military just trains for maintaining defense contracts

spare venture
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Military industrial complex + imperialism = USA military over past 70 years

warm anchor
untold copper
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@robust tiger

twin lagoon
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eclipse

untold copper
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what should i use intelliJ?

limber knotBOT
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hMod_128?

untold copper
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uhm its a mod that added plugin features to alpha 1.2.3

limber knotBOT
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What deprecated shit are you looking at?

untold copper
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alpha 1.2.3

limber knotBOT
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Yeah, I know what hMod/ traitor/MinecraftServer is

untold copper
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I still don't understand hMod

limber knotBOT
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but that one hasn't been update ever since bukkit was first released

untold copper
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was it like the bukkit of alpha days

mossy vessel
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eclipse 😂

limber knotBOT
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No, it was the bukkit before bukkit existed

untold copper
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I see

limber knotBOT
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It's the direct precursor of CanaryMod

untold copper
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and that is...?

#
CanaryMod is a Minecraft Server wrapper and library with built-in data
management features as well as player permissions and groups management.
CanaryMod provides a stable and feature-rich framework that makes sure that
Plugins written today, will still work in months without the need of updating
on each Minecraft update. As server owner, this allows you to spend more time
on managing your server, making it awesome, instead of waiting for all your
plugins to update each time.
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oh

limber knotBOT
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The other bukkit, it was sadly only developed till 1.8

untold copper
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1.8 what

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full release

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beta

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.-.

limber knotBOT
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full

untold copper
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oooh

limber knotBOT
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hmod was developed till beta 1.6 afaik

untold copper
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welp trying to get plugins in alpha 1.2.3 is a pain

untold copper
limber knotBOT
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.g traitor/MinecraftServer github

untold copper
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OH

limber knotBOT
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that should be it

untold copper
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POG THANKS

zealous wedge
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oh hmod, those were the days

potent fossil
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Are you .. actually using hmod in the year of our lord 2021

zealous wedge
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sometimes you just don't want paintings to work

worn ember
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jesus that site is ugly

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even the default page is better than that

limber knotBOT
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It doesn't even provide the proper source

left swift
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Wtf is even the point of playing alpha 1.2.3

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If u want nostalgia just watch seananners minecraft videos

coarse lily
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I could see firing it up to play an old version for like 5-10 min. Just to see how far the game has come.

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But running a server? No.

woven otter
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eclipse is horrifying

limber knotBOT
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Also, I highly discourage modding such old versions. I'm currently on working on creating a wrapper for a pretty niche java game all on my own and I can say that it's pretty hard to do, modding minecraft all on your own will also be hard

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But you still need eclipse to load up the Materials class without frying your CPU

untold copper
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uhm me and 1 other guy doing a project

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128 chunks limit

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update to new versions set amount of times

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  • 128 chunks
limber knotBOT
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And minecraft alpha doesn't support java 11+ iirc, so you are going to have some issues if you want to make use of the wonderfull amount of features newer versions of java include (like better GC).

untold copper
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doesn't support

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tried compiling with java 11

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returned error

limber knotBOT
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I think you need to use Java 6 or something

ashen cliff
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It doesn't need to compile with 11 to run on 11.
Welcome to legacy.

untold copper
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it didn't run

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so compiled with java 8

olive marlin
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inb4 Snoopa compiled with java11 and ran server with java8

untold copper
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then it worked

limber knotBOT
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Minecraft 1.12- never runs on Java 11+

untold copper
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

ashen cliff
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Daily reminder, you can still run 1.8 on Java 11+.
You just need to change the server.properties.

untold copper
limber knotBOT
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You can't see in the dark without torches

untold copper
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ah yes, opening inventory with "I"

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numeric IDs

coarse lily
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coarse lily
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Haha

warm anchor
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God I fucking hate those sites that do that

tropic flame
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also imagine caring about what damn version someone is playing, as long as they have fun and like it

deep crane
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hey maybe someone can help me here, ask now over full day in other server without helps XD one of my player dont get show in /baltop of Essentials i have add him the exclude false permission but not work

tropic flame
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let them play Minecraft alpha all they want smh

minor badge
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@twin lagoon peepo

untold copper
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@tropic flame im just bored and want smthn interesting to work on

tropic flame
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go ahead my dude

untold copper
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playing around with minecraft alpha will certainly be interesting

tropic flame
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I've seen people using Fabric to make mods for beta 1.7.3

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just look on the right places

untold copper
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alpha mods are pretty rare to come around

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there is a very low chance that someone will still be making mods for that

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also you have to run alpha servers in offline mode for some reason

waxen panther
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phosyawn

untold copper
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otherwise it doesn't let you connect

tropic flame
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yeah because it does not use the new auth servers

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but i think there are community fixes for that

untold copper
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so i guess we'll have to find an auth plugin??

untold copper
coarse lily
tropic flame
left swift
untold copper
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but good idea

deep crane
untold copper
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will try

tropic flame
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i never implied they are entitled to support

coarse lily
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Ha

tropic flame
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i bet the biggest servers in the game don't come here asking for support, do they

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e.g. hypixel and the like

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what you deal with is with stupid kids lmao

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and they're everywhere ¯_(ツ)_/¯

warm anchor
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Did you just call our server kids stupid pepecry

untold copper
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wtf

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:c

tropic flame
# untold copper will try

there's also the Modification Station discord, which i figure i can't link you here lol but it should be easy to google

left swift
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Snoopa u gonna take that shit he called u stupid

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Square up

tropic flame
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i don't think he's stupid

olive marlin
left swift
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U got em on the ropes snoopa he scared

tropic flame
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lmao, whatever you say

twin lagoon
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who would ddos porkbun

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😔

olive marlin
#

Idk Michale.

left swift
#

Chickenbun

olive marlin
#

But now I'm on CF and it feels good.

worn ember
#

poopoobun

olive marlin
#

They have the best features.

mossy vessel
#

Porkbun is amazing

#

Not like I have just "trash" domains there

olive marlin
#

I haven't seen any other place offer dejigamaflipper.

mossy vessel
#

Coorection, I just use prokbun for trash domains

zealous wedge
#

porkbun is great until you realize it doesn't have .ca

olive marlin
mossy vessel
olive marlin
#

At least PB has ALIASes, while CF doesn't 😦

left swift
#

Why not have onedoteight.download redirect to the latest paper jar

olive marlin
#

That'd mean you need to have a backend.

mossy vessel
#

Plus a variety of other domains I'd not like to disclose here

untold copper
#

ok i go sleep bai

left swift
#

Lol

worn ember
#

bruh that load order is giving me brain cancer lol

olive marlin
left swift
#

Buy fast

mossy vessel
#

You just gave me an idea

olive marlin
left swift
#

50% commission on all ideas given in paper general sign here x___

worn ember
#

xxx

olive marlin
#

DED wrong window.

worn ember
#

i wanted to google triple x

#

the movie

mossy vessel
#

hehe

visual egret
mossy vessel
spiral robin
#

dragons den but for domains

spring mango
#

Yay new snapshot 21w03a

potent fossil
#

snapchat you say

twin lagoon
#

simple tacoplead

potent fossil
#

michale 🥺

spiral robin
#

simple peepoClapJamminMoment

olive marlin
#

I haven't ran a script in like a year, and it doesn't work now...

mossy vessel
#

simple 👀

potent fossil
#

NMF and aber pepelove 👀

twin lagoon
#

nmf clappywappy

mossy vessel
#

send me cute snaps kthx

twin lagoon
potent fossil
#

I wish I was bottom enough to cry literal waterfalls

mossy vessel
#

😂

spiral robin
#

does anyone want to join the "luckyperms after dark" snapchat group peepoClapJamminMoment

waxen panther
#

yes

spiral robin
#

ok i dm u

dull linden
#

Sure bet

spiral robin
#

who r u

dull linden
#

idk

mossy vessel
#

yes

#

what is this

#

I can try in Kenny's uni discord

#

Sounds like a fair trade

spiral robin
#

🥺

meager tusk
#

aber TE_PeepoClapJam

spiral robin
#

idriz!! peepoClap

vernal moth
#

Mfw

ashen cliff
#

<someone> 👏

mossy vessel
#

😂

#

hmu

woven otter
cosmic raft
vernal moth
#

Yes!

potent fossil
#

Harry Potter aPES_HappyClap

woven otter
#

what is that scene

potent fossil
potent fossil
spiral robin
#

kashike peepoClapJamminMoment

mossy vessel
#

I have the first movie on VHS

potent fossil
mossy vessel
#

I have a hang for ancient/vintage stuff

cosmic raft
#

@potent fossil except you got the tainted version

potent fossil
#

Huh

cosmic raft
#

Philosopher's Stone is the real one, not Sorcerer's Stone

#

:p

potent fossil
#

☠️

mossy vessel
#

My parents used to have a VHS player sooo

potent fossil
#

I have three tainted versions

twin lagoon
#

fucking nerds

woven otter
#

watching harry potter brings feelings of nostalgia FeelsCryingMan

potent fossil
#

Says michael, the man who lives in the command line

twin lagoon
#

never watched harry potter

potent fossil
#

Ur bad

#

Books are better anyway

woven otter
#

imagine reading books

mossy vessel
#

aber 🥺

twin lagoon
#

nmf tacoplead

spiral robin
#

nmf 🥺

left swift
coarse lily
mossy vessel
#

Damn what's up with porkbun, domains used to be faster available

#

Did I just buy notmyfault.wine? We may never know

spiral robin
left swift
#

Some weird ass obsessions with domains lol

#

Domain shaming

mossy vessel
#

I'm just using porkbun for fun stuff since they are usually super cheap lol

potent fossil
#

my oven is taking forever to heat up

spiral robin
#

how hot

potent fossil
#

i . want . my . salmon ! PES_Angery

#

375 fahrenheit

spiral robin
#

mine can goto 375 in 6 min

mossy vessel
#

.wa 375 fa to c

spiral robin
#

just pan fry it

wide chasm
#

.wa 375f to c

potent fossil
#

We just got a real cheap oven

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) No results.

mossy vessel
#

😂

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Result: 190.6 °C (degrees Celsius) - https://is.gd/M0RVmq

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wide chasm
#

This is why you do double queries 😉

limber knotBOT
#

convection?

mossy vessel
limber knotBOT
#

assert dominance by using IRC

void void
#

do you guys generally install fabric server side?

worn ember
#

why would you do that

void void
#

to serve lithium

worn ember
#

well that require your players to run fabric too

olive marlin
#

We generally install Paper server-side.

#

No it doesn't.

worn ember
#

well fuk u

void void
#

oh prof i think you were teh one who gave me teh list

#

get sodium, lithium, starlight, krypton, and lazydfu

#

^ right?

olive marlin
#

It was Proxi 🙂

worn ember
#

well spigot fabric wen

mossy vessel
#

spibric

olive marlin
#

@void void ^^

worn ember
#

spibrick

limber knotBOT
#

there's fukkit I learned today

cosmic raft
#

shakes fist at google sheets

worn ember
#

you cant expect a browser eating 5gb of your ram to do intensive sheets kash

void void
#

ooo it was proxi

#

yeah looking into it all

#

figured maybe i could serve lithium and then run the rest client side

#

stupid idea?

cosmic raft
#

bah

#

google pls

#

gimme COUNTBACKGROUNDCOLOR

mossy vessel
#

@viral hornet panda_uwu

cosmic raft
#

does anyone have a package tracking site they use and would recommend? Keeping track of packages with 4-5 different couriers is a pain.

peak ginkgo
#

I use the Shop app by Shopify

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Shopify Pay transactions automatically populate

#

And anything else I can add by hand

#

It'll take a good guess of who the courier is based off the code and you can correct it.

olive marlin
#

17TRACK works nicely.

peak ginkgo
#

17Track is a popular

limber knotBOT
#

whats wrong with google sheets? kashike

cosmic raft
#

read what I said Jamie

#

lol

twin lagoon
#

i usually use this for chinese packages

#

better than 17track in one way

limber knotBOT
#

wait does sheets not support counting cells by their colour then?

brave radish
cosmic raft
#

no jamie

limber knotBOT
#

interesing

#

s/interesing/interesting

#

Correction, <jamie> interesting

cosmic raft
#

well

#

@peak ginkgo @twin lagoon I want one that I can add packages to an account or something, see an overview of them all etc

twin lagoon
#

then 17track

golden gust
#

fix the casing of Cats

#

How'd that go for ya?

brave radish
#

huh? lol

golden gust
#

I erm... fix it...

#

:)

cosmic raft
#

I currently use a spreadsheet for it

brave radish
#

I don't remember... did it say "burning of leafs" before?

cosmic raft
#

yes

golden gust
#

I was gonna convert it to indian case, but, I just figured I'd do only a few of the words

peak ginkgo
#

I do something similiar with my YouTooz kash, 17Track will probably help better

cosmic raft
#

YouTooz?

peak ginkgo
#

Like Funkos but YouTubers

cosmic raft
#

Funkos?

peak ginkgo
#

oh jeez

#

.g youtooz

limber knotBOT
golden gust
#

Social /Off Topic General Community Chatter. Tacos, Cats, Taylor, And Burning Of Leafs

peak ginkgo
#

Little vinyl dudes

cosmic raft
#

creepy

twin lagoon
#

technoplane clappywappy

brave radish
#

cat...

cosmic raft
#

I've been trying to register on 17track

#

but

coarse lily
#

Haha

#

What the hell is that?

peak ginkgo
#

clearly it says

#

NVCZ

cosmic raft
#

A verification code

left swift
#

Nvcz

coarse lily
#

"To register, just cast the magic spell outlined here"

golden gust
#

How long until we NEED ai to solve these?

left swift
#

Yes

coarse lily
#

I feel like I fail 1/4 captchas already.

mossy vessel
#

I'd read the v as left shifted lambda

coarse lily
#

I see a diamond in there.

cosmic raft
#

Passwords must have 8-16 characters and contain all of the following: letters, numbers and half-width symbols.

#

ok 17track

left swift
#

I like the ones that have pictures and they're like "pick the planes" but all the pictures are animals

mossy vessel
#

I did a capture with galaxies recently, can't remember where but I had to look up the spiral galaxy lol

peak ginkgo
#

.g half-width symbol

limber knotBOT
#

In CJK (Chinese, Japanese and Korean) computing, graphic characters are traditionally classed into fullwidth (in Taiwan and Hong Kong: 全形; in CJK: 全角) and halfwidth (in Taiwan and Hong Kong: 半形; in CJK: 半角) characters. With fixed-width fonts, a halfwidth character occupies half the width of a fullwidth character, hence the name.
Halfwidth and Fu...

potent fossil
#

Ultra thonk.

alpine pier
#

Hey Hey.. i want to change my current system (Ryzen 3900X) to another cpu because our plans of the minecraft network changed (from a minigame network (25-30 Server) to something less (5-6 Server)).. since those Servers should get higher playercounts its important to have a higher clockspeed instead of massive cores..

Should i get a i9-10900K or a i9-9900k? are the newer cpus (10XXX) better for minecraft or is there no real benefit for the extra $$?

potent fossil
#

@twin lagoon your experience is required

#

@alpine pier please transmit $3000 into michale's bank account for his professional advice

woven otter
#

no don't give them money. they suck

potent fossil
#

no Michael is very smart

woven otter
#

no very dum

potent fossil
#

objectively incorrect

woven otter
#

no u

potent fossil
#

@alpine pier that was a joke but michael might respond, anyway you should probably ask in #paper-help

alpine pier
#

alright .. done

brave radish
alpine pier
#

i felt like it doesnt have anything to do with paper

#

thats why the general channel xd

potent fossil
#

paper-help is just generic server support, in the paper server

limber knotBOT
#

half of the time spent there is on networking issues

potent fossil
coarse lily
#

Haha sorry sulu

left swift
#

blelelelele simp

potent fossil
#

what the fuck is that emoji

left swift
potent fossil
#

Can we ban mana now

left swift
#

Please

#

Simp just trying to silence poki

nimble lodge
#

personally, i'm ok with kotlin

olive marlin
#

Don't start a holy war lol

nimble lodge
woven otter
#

pokimane is hot

nimble lodge
olive marlin
#

People don't like Kotlin, because it doesn't require you to write too much code.

nimble lodge
#

because it requires less work

woven otter
#

kotlin is hot

nimble lodge
woven otter
#

well no it's kinda ugly but still beats java

analog sapphire
#

how is concise code bad

olive marlin
#

Hot duck is good.

analog sapphire
#

sorry new to minecraft community

#

xd

zealous wedge
#

nobody knows how to write kotlin tho

golden gust
#

#KotlinMasterRace

woven otter
#

cat is hot

nimble lodge
#

everyone on these servers seems to hate kotlin

analog sapphire
#

kotlin is ok

#

def better than java

waxen panther
#

kotlin is ok

golden gust
#

Kotlin is really nice, but, it's just yet another flawed language

waxen panther
#

people write really ugly kotlin though

zealous wedge
#

you can't simp for kotlin unless you are actually proficient at the language

nimble lodge
#

i mean people on these servers seem to hate doing less work

golden gust
#

We're in a java community

nimble lodge
#

really

#

hm

golden gust
#

every dev in this community knows java

brave radish
waxen panther
#

didnt say it was

woven otter
#

what about scala tho

golden gust
#

getting people to magically pick up a new language is somewhat of a suicide

waxen panther
#

if it takes me less time to do someone it means i have to bill for last time 😠

golden gust
#

scala is even worse

olive marlin
#

You mean you don't like my version checker?

    // Whether current version has not-null PDC when not using snapshot
    // https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3913
    // This was fixed in early 1.16.2 build - 165
    private fun doesSnapshotlessBlockStateWork(): Boolean {
        val fixVersion = listOf(1, 16, 2)
        val currentVersion = server.bukkitVersion // 1.16.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT
            .split('-')[0] // 1.16.4
            .split('.') // listOf("1", "16", "4")
            .map { it.toInt() }
        for ((fix, current) in fixVersion zip currentVersion) {
            if (fix < current) return true
            if (fix > current) return false
            // If equal, check next subversion
        }
        // Current version is exactly fix version
        return true
    }
golden gust
#

Like, cool, you're now got a stack in a pretty language

#

What happens when your dev gets hit by a bus and you need to find a new dev?

zealous wedge
#

see that's good kotlin :p

brave radish
#

I actually prefer java for the JVM, but I use Kotlin for everything I can't use java for

waxen panther
woven otter
#

kotlin is kinda nice tho

olive marlin
#

I don't like any of the JVM languages I tried, but Kotlin feels like the smaller evil.

golden gust
#

Can you like, not

woven otter
#

especially for plugins and the fact that most servers run on java 8

#

well java 11 now too ig

golden gust
#

I mean, take sponges ore for example

#

It's a nice stack and a nice tool

#

But, there is practically only one dev working on the thing last I saw

zealous wedge
#

Scala is neat

olive marlin
#

I like being able to use modern features and not being stuck in 2014. Don't like being held back by language.

zealous wedge
#

just nobody learns it because you need to ship a whole stdlib with your plugin

olive marlin
#

I want to write fast and get it done.

golden gust
#

Especially in a community full of java devs, attracting people to learn scala and then work on a huge ass codebase, is a pretty huge ask

woven otter
#

oh cat was talking about bus factor that's what I was looking for

zealous wedge
#

I call java 8 modern lol

golden gust
#

bus factor? lol

woven otter
#

yes

zealous wedge
#

but then im used to Java 6

woven otter
#

it's called bus factor

#

lol

brave radish
#

how do you use java 6 lol

#

literally can't imagine

golden gust
#

I just didn't know there was like a technical term for it 😄

worn ember
woven otter
#

the more you know

zealous wedge
#

minecraft was 1.6 until partway through sponge

cosmic raft
golden gust
#

java 8 really didn't add anything massive to the stdlib outside of pretty language features like lambdas, etc, iirc

zealous wedge
#

it was 1.5 for a while

brave radish
#

no anonymous functions or whatever java calls them

coarse lily
zealous wedge
#

well, we skipped 7,so got all the stdlib improvements from there

brave radish
golden gust
#

Like, it was a really nice release in the scheme of things, but, there was nothing super mega awesome in the language that you'd really miss

coarse lily
#

A where's Waldo Captcha would be amazing, kashike.

zealous wedge
#

like Path, and all sorts of nice apis

coarse lily
#

Sure it'd distract me from what I was doing for a while but it would at least be fun.

nimble lodge
#

why does inventoryopenevent not fire when players look at their own inventories

golden gust
#

because the server doesn't know about it

analog sapphire
#

isnt that client side?

nimble lodge
#

oh

#

hm

brave radish
#

(unfortunately)

worn ember
#

server is pretty dum tbh, plz gif higher iq

woven otter
#

kotlin is nice if you want to do less (for the most part?)

raven hare
golden gust
#

Yea, kotlin is a really nice language to work with

#

But, there's that bus factor

#

and the "contribs plz"

#

Nobody really wants to go out of their way to learn a language to contrib to a project unless they really need it, which, is generally not gonna result in the type of quality contribs that you'd hope for

#

So, you cut your contribution pool in the community down significantly

#

For me, if I'm creating a personal project, which I've not done in a while because lol health, kotlin is really hard to turn down given some of it's features

#

nullability as a type ❤️

analog sapphire
#

Immutable as kind of the default :D

brave radish
#

does paper take kotlin? I mean ofc anyone with a Kotlin PR could just convert to java but like real kotlin

worn ember
golden gust
#

No

#

Because we're a java project, and bundling the stdlib is something we don't wanna do

vernal moth
#

Oh god, scala discussions, the nightmares are coming back 😩

olive garden
#

I can write Kotlin code
IntelliJ auto transforms my Java code to Kotlin when I copy-paste

golden gust
#

The moment you start bundling critical libs, the moment you need to start going crazy with maintaining that library

olive garden
#

it's very useful tbh for modifying some library for testing

golden gust
#

What happens when there is a new kotlin release and people are uber divided over if we should upgrade asap? etc

olive garden
#

I usually just cry

analog sapphire
#

Well thats always an option

golden gust
#

as you should trig, as you should

brave radish
#

oof

olive garden
#

cries

golden gust
#

and the balance to the world is restored once more

brave radish
#

cat's claws...

analog sapphire
#

do you ever get used to never knowing whether a function is a copy or not?

brave radish
#

I don't really have a problem with copies if you mean like "does this function to modify this arraylist update it or return a copy" but it took me so long to figure out that changing BlockExplodeEvent#blockList actually effects what explodes

twin lagoon
woven otter
#

cat bites and claws then goes back to eating food and purring. typical cat

candid spindle
#

its to deter the hackers

#

they'l be so insulted by the font

#

they will stop trying to hack

limber knotBOT
#

I'd argue its not such a great idea since less people know Kotlin too, and I assume less people know enough intracacies about efficiency when compiled to bytecode.

candid spindle
#

This guy is wearing all the spy gear, for example the transparent glasses I can't see

brave radish
#

one day I wanted to look up "cia headquarters" to see if they had real windows but then I was like "wait, then I'd be on a watch list"

golden gust
#

Okay, so

limber knotBOT
#

though that's coming from the standpoint of using Kotlin in Paper, not just distributing the standard library

candid spindle
#

I win

limber knotBOT
#

(a JVM language that doesn't come with any baggage would be great)

candid spindle
#

Cia watchlist speedrun any%

golden gust
#

Why is it that every government service tagline is along the lines of like, what you'd get from like school children

brave radish
#

wdym

candid spindle
#

the man's confident and thats all that matters

#

"I graduated from Harvard and then joined a military service where we spy on Kim jong-un 24/7"

#

no wasted talent there

coarse lily
#

Shit sorry cat. I clicked the ping off and I missed :(

golden gust
#

wow

coarse lily
#

I'll put myself in a time out.

golden gust
#

hope u lyk poop in ur shoes

candid spindle
#

woah keep it pg

limber knotBOT
#

shitting hell cat XD

candid spindle
#

breaking ur own rules

#

xD

brave radish
#

#general we don't? that makes that easier lol

candid spindle
#

actually thats up to interpretation

left swift
golden gust
#

it's only distasteful if you forget to wash your hands after cleaning it up

candid spindle
woven otter
left swift
brave radish
#

do timings ever get deleted?

void void
#

yeah they reset iirc

brave radish
#

when?

void void
#

when you shut it down

#

and i think there's as etting that sets how long they record for

#

like teh history

limber knotBOT
#

yeah, when aikar runs out of space ;D

void void
#

you'll have to google to figure out how to change that though

brave radish
#

i mean like the reports sent to the server

void void
#

ohhhhh!

#

sorry

#

no idea

#

i wish proxi were around

#

im trying to install starlight and curious if i need the fabric API or what

#

the instructions on their git are sparse as always

wild escarp
#

its like 30 days i think

brave radish
#

then I will bookmark my timings and see in thirty days

limber knotBOT
#

could also just get a link from a month ago from your server log and test that ;D

brave radish
#

true, but I wouldn't know if it was one month or 5 cuz i don't run it that often

#

aikar mad genius

coarse lily
#

Yeah after 30 days they go away.

void void
#

like how are you supposed to knmow if this is client or server side?

#

why don't they tell you?

limber knotBOT
#

presumably you could run it on either.

waxen panther
#

lots of complaining for free work phosyawn

void void
#

yeah, and is it a fabric mod or what?

#

LOL

#

sorry @waxen panther i don't mean it like that

#

just wish the documentation was a bit better

#

if you spent the time to make something great atleast explain it

waxen panther
#

devs dont like writing documentation PepeLa

limber knotBOT
#

DFU is server/world

void void
#

so you just drop it in your plugins folder adn its good to go?

formal turret
#

and it's fabric

void void
#

ahh

#

okay, i relaly need to get fabric running on the server

limber knotBOT
#

and pretty sure it's not even containing code? wat

#

it should definatelt document its a fabric mod.

#

s/telt/tely

#

Correction, <jamie> it should definately document its a fabric mod.

void void
#

yeah they ~should~ but they don't

#

if i'm not mistaken

limber knotBOT
#

I couldn't see anything either.

formal turret
#

make an issue for it then the only really public facing link for it is on CF i believe

#

unless you're just searching through his github profile of course

limber knotBOT
#

oh, it simply doesn't initialize the rules when not needed. what

void void
#

proxi rec'd it out to me

#

so fabric and papermc work together yes?

limber knotBOT
#

no

formal turret
#

nope

void void
#

oh fuqq

#

why'd she rec this out

formal turret
#

lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

cuts down on client load times

void void
#

i was complaining about running on igpu

#

and she gave me this list

#

get sodium, lithium, starlight, krypton, and lazydfu

formal turret
#

ok def for your client then

#

all those are fabric mods for your client :p

void void
#

but lazydfu is server side?

#

gotch aokay

formal turret
#

it works client side

waxen panther
#

those are all for your client yes, not all of them will have effect on multiplayer though

void void
#

ahhh interesting i only play multiplayer

#

which ones have no effect on MP?

olive marlin
# brave radish do timings ever get deleted?

I know aikar actually changed this sometime last year (or 2 years ago?). They used to delete after 90 days or so, I think now they delete after 30 days since they were last opened.

formal turret
#

lazydfu only affects startup times

olive marlin
#

Use all of them client-side kbo.

void void
#

okay, thanks!

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im trying to help my buds out too so trying to get this all going so i can send them a nice mod folder package

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also fabric api?

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do i need that?

waxen panther
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yes

void void
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this definitely seems server side

formal turret
waxen panther
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it's also on the wiki

void void
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where's the wiki?

waxen panther
void void
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might be more helpful i was just googling them and finding the gits

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oh!

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(sorry) thank you so much

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so are there papermc mods i should be running?

waxen panther
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paper plugins wont increase your clients performance

void void
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the only thing i did was follow the spigot optimizing recs

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just drop fabric-api into the mods folder and good to go?

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watching youtube

void void
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got it! thank you

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last thing i'm curious about is how to uninstall older versions of fabric

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i see a bunch of old stuff in minecraft/libraries/net

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oh maybe this isn't old stuff

coarse lily
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Why older versions?

void void
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i thought these were older versions

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everytime i update i download fabric.jar and double click it

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adn seems like it installs something new each time

coarse lily
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I dunno you'd have to Google the version.

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There's probably a fabric / client mods Discord.

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I don't think a lot of folks here mess with this stuff.

void void
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yah true okay cool

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game crashed at boot anyway LOL

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ahh weird lithium is the cause

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probably because it's for 1.16.4 i'm guessing

coarse lily
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How're things brocc?

waxen panther
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pretty good

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just chilling, getting ready to do my next piece of coursework

worn ember
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Very cool mr brocc

waxen panther
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thank you dark eye dragon

short yarrow
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Would you guys ever pass in something just for the sake of logging?

class MyClass {
    private int id;

    public MyClass(int id) {
        this.id = id;
        this.someClass = new SomeClass("String", id)
    }
}

In SomeClass, id is only used for logging and this does not seem right to me

golden gust
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I mean, if logging that offers something useful, either refactor it out so you don't need that class or just pass it in

void void
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do people host snapshots on their servers?

twin lagoon
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no

void void
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so no one is running a 1.17 server atm

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basically

coarse lily
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I'm sure someone somewhere is. But it's just for testing. And it'd be vanilla since there aren't really 1.17 builds of forked servers yet.

golden gust
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There's always gonna be people who use snapshot builds for their servers because they wanna be ahead of the curve or whatever

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no production level server is gonna do that though

nimble lodge
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papermc is cool

spare venture
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yea kotlin good

spiral robin
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Hello

worn fox
zealous wedge
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welcome back rainbric

spiral robin
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