all had to lay people off
#general
coarse lily
I never really liked touching other people. So this has been no change for me. Now it's just more socially acceptable to tell people to stand further away from me.
vernal moth
We will be fine city
heady spear
Social distancing? Swedes call that "living" :'')
Of course we will, we live in some of the richest and most developed countries in the world
with great social safety nets
but what about everyone else? :3
coarse lily
Wait didn't Sweden massively miscalculate how to handle the thing?
Or am I thinking of somewhere else?
twin lagoon
@olive marlin HELLO MY SWEET BABY PRINCESS
mental meadow
I hate not being able to hug people :c i love hugging
heady spear
no? american media seemed obsessed with flaming us tho
coarse lily
Sup Michael
heady spear
prolly because it made the american approach seem better in comparison
twin lagoon
hello
olive marlin
Sup Michale?
twin lagoon
heady spear
tbf Americans seem to do that with everything. Sweden is constantly the target of US defamation smh
olive marlin
It's not nice to steal 😠
twin lagoon
too bad
heady spear
jUsT LooK aT WhaT HappEned In SweDen LasT NigHt
- Trump
twin lagoon
but uh, the websocket seems to send like the entire log file
i need to limit it to like the last 20 lines or so
and i don't know how 😔
coarse lily
olive marlin
So you want something like tail -n20 -f - so send last 20 and the follow? Or want it to always display latest 20 lines?
coarse lily
City, supposedly the King of Sweden said the approach failed.
And that's from the BBC.
twin lagoon
So you want something like `tail -n20 -f` - so send last 20 and the follow? Or w...
pretty much
heady spear
yes because the king is a reliable source of information
twin lagoon
tail -n20 -f
vernal moth
Sweden generally just did nothing to fight the pandemic
heady spear
dude is a coked up french person
twin lagoon
sweden is ass
coarse lily
I know very little about Sweden.
twin lagoon
it's all because of city
coarse lily
I didn't even know there was a king.
heady spear
That's not even true. We did a lot, we just didn't go into lockdown
and the rest of the world freaked out
vernal moth
I mean, i can look at mojang employee twitters and everybody complained about the handling and that they were not feeling same
Safe
mental meadow
Didn't you say yesterday that no one is wearing masks? :P
heady spear
High schools and unis went remote. A LOT of money was poured into making it easier to keep people economically stable even when losing access to their normal jobs. A lot was done to make it easier to work remotely
vernal moth
That nobody is wearing masks and shit
heady spear
they've done a lot to increase the healthcare work force
Masks haven't been mandatory until recently because they are a red herring :'') they're now required on buses etc during rush hours
heady spear
Our strategy has been to not make any drastic decisions and to adapt, because everyone knew this would be a long term thing
Wearing a mask gives a false sense of safety. Most people don't know how to wear them properly (the people that do constantly touch them as well, which... is dumb)
coarse lily
What kind of stuff was done to adapt?
heady spear
if you wear a mask you're more likely to not distance yourself, etc, etc, that has been the reasoning
I listed shit above. When things have gotten worse in places they've made decisions to handle that, and then cases have gone down locally
mental meadow
city wanna hug
heady spear
Also, the government can't even enforce a lockdown
there's no legal ground for them to stand on
They are able to shut down individual establishments, they've made regulations for restaurants, gyms, malls, etc, but they can't deprive people of their freedom
and you know what? that's a bloody good thing
Also, the Mojang employees (@ mini) live in Stockholm, and Stockholm was hit worse than any other place in Sweden
they also work in central Stockholm, which is the most densely populated area in Scandinavia
mental meadow
Probably the highest population density
heady spear
it can't be compared to any other place in Scandinavia
mental meadow
or really any other country
heady spear
Stockholm also has a right/centrist government
(local & county)
whereas the Swedish government is socdem
they took different approaches, and the local government there didn't really follow the nation wide approach
which was... bad
Hell, their solution for crowded buses was to.... remove buses
olive marlin
@twin lagoon You need to read whole file at least once to get the amount of lines etc. Is that ok? If so, that shouldn't be hard.
twin lagoon
yes
heady spear
instead of adding more buses so there'd be less people on each bus
sooooooooo as someone who lives here, I can tell you that shit isn't nearly as bad as foreign media makes it out to be lol
mental meadow
City u didn't answer me :c
twin lagoon
@mental meadow 
mental meadow
potent fossil
wow, this psychology class is gonna kill me but i just saw this in the syllabus:
F. After your chapter essays are graded, you are permitted to resubmit all essays as many times as you desire better for a grade, until the last day of the semester.
what a fucking BOSS
mental meadow
Oh that's nice
heady spear
But anyway ye I do enjoy having people with no real clue tell me how my country works because 😄
mental meadow
City being patriotic
heady spear
im just allergic to asshattery
I also haven't eaten today and I'm very very very grumpy
im gonna go make food rather than talking corona strategy in mc discord kek
mental meadow
Did you already eat everything? :D
heady spear
no, candy makes me super sick in large amounts so it'll take a while 😛
then i get to enjoy it for longer :'')
mental meadow
uwu
topaz mortar
mass phase?
potent fossil
You can retake any already submitted quiz or essay as many times you desire to apply newly obtained course skills to obtain a better grade.
I love this professor
woven otter
that is cool
potent fossil
he gives us the whole week before finals to "Complete any unfinished assignments"
This man may very well be god
olive marlin
@twin lagoon
for i in {1..40}; do echo "Line number $i" >> /tmp/michale/michale.log; done
Result:
Line number 40
Line number 39
< OTHER LINES HERE >
Line number 22
Line number 21
olive marlin
That's a cool useful script, I'll be stealing it 🙂
twin lagoon
it's nice yes
really needed an offset thing because otherwise the javascript end will end up creating like 500 <li> tags
and it would take ages to do so
olive marlin
You reminded me I had a simple python server somewhere that logged every request to file and responded with the same content, while nginx exposed the log file somewhere and cronjob was running to make sure the file won't get too big, because after a while it got spammed with bot requests really hard lol
I wonder if I still have this setup somewhere.
twin lagoon
olive marlin
I think on JS side there should be limit that deletes old entries, otherwise you gonna have heavy website in a short time.
twin lagoon
@olive marlin hm one issue seems to be that the websocket does not reply after it has been used once
olive marlin
Oh god, I still have it.
#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -euo pipefail
python3 -u /home/user/tin/server.py 127.0.0.1 5050 | awk '/^[[:space:]]*$/ {print $0; next;} { "date" | getline d; printf("[%s] %s\n", d, $0); close("date")}' >> /var/www/html/TIN.txt
Logs:
[Sun Jun 9 18:22:34 UTC 2019] accepted connection from 51094
[Sun Jun 9 18:22:34 UTC 2019] 51094 echoing b'\x03\x00\x00*%\xe0\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00Cookie: mstshash=Test\r\n\x01\x00\x08\x00\x03\x00\x00\x00'
[Sun Jun 9 18:22:35 UTC 2019] closing connection to 51094
[Sun Jun 9 20:57:41 UTC 2019] accepted connection from 33498
[Sun Jun 9 20:57:42 UTC 2019] 33498 echoing b'\x03\x00\x00/*\xe0\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00Cookie: mstshash=Administr\r\n\x01\x00\x08\x00\x03\x00\x00\x00'
[Sun Jun 9 20:57:42 UTC 2019] closing connection to 33498
xD
Glad it died quite a while ago lol
potent fossil
Other than the last day of class, there will be no assigned dates for you to complete your work. There are recommended dates, but you may change them as your personal schedule demands. This is an online course, and you may work it around your schedule. However, all exams and essays must be complete no later than 5/19/2021. I recommend that you finish this course as soon as possible and not allow yourself to fall too far behind; you may find it impossible to catch up if you do.
This is going to be my favorite class
olive marlin
<@!209234044657991680> hm one issue seems to be that the websocket does not repl...
Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean? But will play around with the script.
Oh, I see it lol
olive marlin
Ok. I think I know what it is.
When you realod webpage, the old websocket connection is not closed, and data is still piped into it. Instead the new one.
twin lagoon
ah yeah
worn ember
> Other than the last day of class, there will be no assigned dates for you to c...
Double edged sword
potent fossil
Double edged sword
ye for idiots who take that as "u dont have to do anything until 3 wks from final"
olive marlin
@twin lagoon I started completely rewriting this crap, but I just now realized I can probably fix it in one line lol
olive marlin
City might be interested xD
quasi valley
olive marlin
@twin lagoon works great 🙂 https://gist.github.com/Prof-Bloodstone/e3c5feb1d32f0cc395b13631e278e6c6
twin lagoon
<@!215448923681062913> works great 🙂 <https://gist.github.com/Prof-Bloodstone/e...
what did you change
mossy vessel
Michele 👀
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?ban @reef adder Trol
leaden oxideBOT
CrystalSoldier#3349 was banned | Trol
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why do trolls ping the people with ban perms
untold copper
f
olive marlin
what did you change
Made the handler non-blocking. So in async def tail, replaced blocking time.sleep with await asyncio.sleep(sleep)
untold copper
michelle troll CONFIRMED??!! :P
mossy vessel
quasi valley
nmf you definitely send the best kind of panel memes hahaha
olive marlin
I already had it rewritten so that tail would work concurrently and have handlers only register/unregister websocket clients etc lol
twin lagoon
olive marlin
That was dum.
mossy vessel
Keeping it friendly :^)
olive marlin
I was supposed to work on thesis I have due tomorrow...
twin lagoon
thesis
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helo prof
red garden
imagine
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?ban @void void ad spam
leaden oxideBOT
MinecraGanador7u7#9176 was banned | ad spam
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it's going fairly well
potent fossil
god i fucking hate children
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how's yours?
void void
Imagine spamming 
olive marlin
Quite well. Though lack motivation to do anything.
twin lagoon
god i fucking hate children
fucking hate you
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i'm currently considering learning Julia 
twin lagoon
.g Julia
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Julia Roberts An American actress and producer. (https://duckduckgo.com/Julia_Roberts?v=i&kp=1)
potent fossil
fucking hate you
shut up and KISS ME
twin lagoon
wtf
olive marlin
.g Julia language
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limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Julia is a high-level, high-performance, dynamic programming language. While it is a general-purpose language and can be used to write any application, many of its features are well suited for numerical analysis and computational science. Distinctive aspects of Julia's design include a type system with parametric polymorphism in a dynamic programming language; with multiple dispatch as its core programming paradigm. Julia supports concurrent, par
twin lagoon
learn vlang or something
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it's basically Ruby or Python but maths
olive marlin
Yeah, that's how I remember it being - more for computation.
But python is nice for math.
Except you need to use libs to offload heavy calculation.
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JL's supposed to be great for general purpose too
olive marlin
I think I wanna get better at langs I know.
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well
twin lagoon
app.run(debug=True, use_reloader=False)
print("This code runs after Flask")
print never runs
olive marlin
So probably Bash for scripts, Python for when bash is not enough, Rust for most things and Kotlin for when I need to touch JVM.
twin lagoon
i currently just use "threading" for some functions
dunno if it'd would work with flask
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i know there was event loop starting with g but i don't remember what it's actually called lol
twin lagoon
gonna use python3 ThreadPoolExecutor and create multi-threaded minecraft server in python
olive marlin
I think I used asyncio fot most things.
potent fossil
ok i feel kinda bad, i went to that childs YT and one his videos is reading grades to his parents and his did called him his little champion
dad*
potent fossil
Ask.
ashen cliff
How TF did I go from 128MB to 256MB after a reboot?
potent fossil
Ask someone else.
ashen cliff
twin lagoon
i currently just use "threading" for some functions
dunno if it'd would work with flask
ok kinda
o nvm got em
red garden
should i run the server file in command prompt or just click on the actual server file and use that
twin lagoon
command prompt
red garden
okay
i need to learn how to properly make a server because i cant even get my friends to join
olive marlin
Create a wrapper script which will run the server with flags etc.
Home hosting? Need to port forward etc.
Or pay 5$ for simple shared server.
red garden
what.
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yaknow, just paying someone else to host it for you is very often the best solution for new hosters who just wanna play with friends; realms, extravm, dedicatedmc, etc. are all great options
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wh
red garden
yaknow, just paying someone else to host it for you is very often the best solut...
i dont have a legit copy of mc so realms is out of the question, im poor and aternos's queue is bad so yeah rather host it myself
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then there are maaany tutorials online on how to do it
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sure
ashen cliff
That didn't take long...
https://posili.me/i/2021-01-17_13-12-57.png
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your choices in life make me question mine
potent fossil
wait is that an old warning lmao
ashen cliff
1.12.2.
Looks like it's missdetecting the ram chip somehow.
And now USB also died, so no WiFi.
potent fossil
oh i didnt see that part
worn ember
Krusic stop making your kernel panic. You'll give it a heart attack
ashen cliff
Not my fault.
woven otter
poor kernel 
lapis shale
Good morning everyone!
Quick question, are the newest Paper 1.16.5 builds safe to install (Besides Plugin incompatibilities)? Any worries about spawn corruption?
olive marlin
There shouldn't be any plugin incompatibilites etc.
Paper 1.16.4 and 1.16.5 is the same - just the crash exploits are fixed by Mojang, not Paper.
olive marlin
You can join 1.16.4 server with 1.16.5 client and the other way round.
lapis shale
Oh rock on. Thank you
So on the DL
What were these 2 major security risks? Or is that strictly hidden from common knowledge
olive marlin
I think one got quite popular, other one wasn't widely used iirc.
lapis shale
Was it the oberserver facing down thing I seen on reddit?
olive marlin
You could easily crash any server. I don't think we want to talk about exploits in the public 🙂
olive marlin
That was one of them.
lapis shale
was Mojang not aware until that went viral on the interwebs
olive marlin
Paper team pressured Mojang into fixing them iirc.
mental meadow
Paper fixed them a few weeks ago
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There shouldn't be any plugin incompatibilites etc.
mappings update actually 
lapis shale
Oh nice
olive marlin
Paper fixed it first, then asked Mojang to pull the fix so that Vanilla won't be vulnerable.
lapis shale
Alright thanks guys
olive marlin
WTF md?
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@cedar spade 🤬
mental meadow
but no revision change 😄
woven otter
e🅱️ic
mossy vessel
Advertising placebo can be quite successful.
tepid turtle
yatopia more like world corruption
topaz mortar
Yatopia -> Mehrere Köche versalzen die Suppe.
Just to many locations where it can break.
limber knotBOT
my alt button isnt working in pop os
:(
they used to
ok im dumb
i replaced a switch on my keyboard
just to realise it was a software issue
i want to commit die
topaz mortar
i want to commit die
You mean suicide?
tropic flame
selfdie
limber knotBOT
yes
cedar spade
<@145878422566993920> 🤬
sorry 
limber knotBOT
anyway i fixed it now
olive marlin
Oskar how is your distro hopping? Decided to stay with pop os?
olive marlin
Heard good things about it. Just wish it wasn't Ubuntu based with GNOME-based DE.
vernal moth
but no revision change 😄
Revision change would have been stupid
That's what the value in unsafe is for
limber knotBOT
also edge for linux runs much better than mozilla
olive marlin
FF works fine, but I haven't tried edge. I'm addicted to using containers, so switching browsers isn't really viable for me.
limber knotBOT
FF has the occasional issue, but it's nothing disturbing
firefox hates webgl for me, it barley runs
also edge just kinda looks better, like when dragging a tab to make it a widnow
window*
The most annoying application on linux is pulseaudio, while eclipse is the record holder for visual glitches
vernal moth
Haha eclipse
limber knotBOT
intellij > eclipse
olive marlin
vim > *
ashen cliff
nano > vim
olive marlin
Imagine not using sed smh
limber knotBOT
also, pop looks so much better than anything else ive seen
vernal moth
Imagine not wasting time and just using windows + wsl
olive marlin
I don't really care about the "looks", everything will be covered with open apps anyway. I want to reinstall Arch, but might give a similar OS a go (like Void or whatever). And configure it more to my liking. My biggest pain is managing workspaces due to amount of things I work on etc.
untold copper
Wassup prof :D
and everyone else :D
I wish everyone a very pleasant day/night/evening/afternoon uwu
mental meadow
@twin lagoon uwu
twin lagoon
uwu
mossy vessel
new pfp 👀
woven otter
warm anchor
mental meadow
warm anchor
Berry cute
mental meadow
uwu
limber knotBOT
does anyone know a terminal that is actually nice
something like the new windows terminal
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i use alacritty, idk if it's got tiling or tabs or anything tho (that's what people use a terminal multiplexer or tiling window manager for)
olive marlin
Proxi you are using Void, right?
warm anchor
Proximyst got new profile pic too and it’s from nekomonogatari 
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yes i do
limber knotBOT
why would the terminal matter? zsh + screen/tmux does the job pretty well ;D
olive marlin
Did you have issues that you didn't find some packages in the void repos, but they were in AUR?
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i have that from time to time, yes
olive marlin
I plan on re-doing my setup from ground up in like 2 months or so.
But I very heavily use AUR lol
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the template of xbps is pretty easy to use
and just so happens they're suckers for documentation: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/blob/master/Manual.md
annnd there's #xbps & #voidlinux on freenode
olive marlin
Hmm, was expecting more tbh:
pacman -Qm | wc -l
45
certain packages you'll just have to suck up and do yourself, e.g. java 15, but otherwise everything is pretty much in the void repos because they're not as reluctant to adding shit as arch is
olive marlin
Is there a place where I can search through their repos online? Want t ocheck how many of those 45 packages I can find.
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i don't know if it'll show you non-free packages, but it should at least show you all free ones
olive marlin
There's no bullshit package 😔
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there are also such things as restricted packages (e.g. controversial packages like zoom, or packages that can't be redistributed like ms teams) that cannot be downloaded from the repo, but the "recipe" is already in the github repo so you can install it manually with 1 command
ashen cliff
olive marlin
So looks like there's no eg, fly, knoxite, nbtexplorer, tanka or teams.
But surprisignly there's more than I expected.
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teams being?
olive marlin
MS-teams
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that's a restricted package, so it's there, just not downloadable without extra work
olive marlin
But I won't need them in a few weeks anyway (should be done with Uni).
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srcpkgs/teams-bin
olive marlin
I'm surprised about some of them being there - like tealdeer or multimc.
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eg is installable via pip fwiw
olive marlin
There's no hollywood either. How am I supposed to go into h4ck3r mode?
I know, just I avoid installid stuff into global python env.
olive marlin
I have global pyenv envs (one for python2, one for python3), but if I swithc envs, then I loose access to all installed there packages.
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and i get 401 on checking fly's page
olive marlin
fly-cli is concourse
olive marlin
I know I can install go packages manually. The same with python etc. But I won't be able to check easily if they have updates etc.
Currently I can do yay -Syu, check if I'm fine with updating all the packages and just let it update everything.
Now I'd need to write some script to check Go, Python, Rust etc apps for updates.
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you could PR them to void, but then it still wouldn't autoupdate as someone would need to tend after them
but that's the same for the AUR, except you're lucky not to have to be that one :p
olive marlin
That's the point 😛
Although I wouldn't mind adding all the tools I use to my concourse instance to check daily if there are updates and automatically prepare PR with updated package. Unless void packages work differently 🙂
(Prepare PR for me to review, not automatically PR upstream).
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for 99% of stuff, it'll be fine for you to just bump the hash & download link
olive marlin
Not a fan of systemd, but got used to it already and also need to learn it better cause Debian/Ubuntu/CentOS uses it.
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speaking of, i have NO idea how to pronounce runit; it may be "R unit", it may be "Run unit", it may be "run it", it may be unit with an R in the front lol
mental meadow
Ruint
void void
Hey, how do you instantiate an abstract class into a child class in the parent?
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wat
also, bloodstone, i'm considering abusing java.lang.reflect.Proxy for some message stuff lol
might be interesting 
void void
In my parent class, I would instantiate an abstract class inside
olive marlin
Thanks Proxi ❤️
Will take a closer look at void and your config files.
I made Google Assistant remind me to take a look at your dotfiles. It send me a reminder to "take a loot at proxy adult files" 😇
void void
Hey, how do you instantiate an abstract class into a child class in the parent?
public class Parent {
public static abstract class Raw {};
public Raw getRaw () {
//return [[ HOW TO INSTANTIATE ??]]
}
}```so e.g. ```java
interface IMessages {
@Message("thing.here") // Key in the Properties instance or something
int // Receiver count for example. Can be inferred from method and/or annotations
sendThing(
@Receiver Player receiver, // this is the player receiving it
@Placeholder("target") @Nullable Player target // This is a target; can be resolved later to targetName, targetUuid, etc., or just empty strings
);
}
MessageHandler.builder()
.with(Player.class, new PlayerResolver()) // Builder
.with(String.class, new StringResolver()) // Builder; it'll still resolve Strings with default, but let this try first
.of(IMessages.class) // IMessages
.sendThing(receiver, null);
abstract classes are uninstantiable
void void
So how I can solve my problem ?
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make a class that extends it in some way and instantiate that
e.g. an anonymous class, or another inner class
void void
I would create custom "structure" in children class, and load this structure in parent class method
I have make new Raw() {{}};
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so you want an abstract method?
olive marlin
so e.g. ```java
interface IMessages {
@Message("thing.here") // Key in the Pro...
Hmm, I need to learn more about reflections and stuff. But that looks nice.
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reflection is epic when used well
void void
No, the method is not a custom functionnality
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proxies are.. not necessarily something that checks that box, but it's very cool when used in a nice way, e.g. for repeatable boilerplate
olive marlin
I didn't know that I was using reflections in Python, until I started using Java/Kotlin. And I can confirm, epic when used right. But sometimes I try to Dry the code a bit too much and use reflections where I shouldn't.
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reflections and reflection are notably different
heady spear
reflection is horrible because it allows for dumb shit like annotated command methods
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heady spear
someone at oracle should rm -r java/lang/reflect .
void void
How to override a abstract class inside class ??
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reflection is cool because it lets you reduce code that is easily copyable but also would require a lot more work if you wanna change anything
.xy
limber knotBOT
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explain what you want in the end
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again, what is it you actually want?
void void
heady spear
jOOR is pretty cool tho (https://github.com/jOOQ/jOOR)
void void
But when I remove the ovveride in child, there not error
minor badge
you want the instantiation method (also called a factory method) to return a new instance in it
so you'll need to write it for every subclass
void void
Me ?
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yes
void void
I want define the sub-class Raw in every child class
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abstract class Super {
abstract class Inner {}
abstract Inner createInner();
}
class Subclass {
class InnerSub extends Inner {}
@Override
Inner createInner() { // Can also return InnerSub, but _not_ a superclass of it such as Object
return new InnerSub();
}
}```Inner is a class and you cannot override an entire class
void void
So if i understand I override the method who will provide the class ?
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yes
void void
But new fiels don't appear :/
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Do you know Java? It really feels to me like you've hardly got a grip on what you're doing
void void
I use Java since most 1 year ^^
topaz mortar
Seems not long enough.
void void
some guy named corryalpha just joined my server
and started killing all teh dogs
wtf
woven otter
reflection is horrible because it allows for dumb shit like annotated command me...
Dont be hater
limber knotBOT
well, at least he stayed longer than 10 seconds
limber knotBOT
generally the only people who stay, for bad or good, are those who come in groups. Usually
sometimes I get the one off
void void
i can't believe you can't password protect a server
and how'd he even get my IP address
limber knotBOT
you could with a hostname
void void
oh really?
limber knotBOT
yea, you can get hostname on asyncprelogin
hostname that people use to login
I mean, there is a whitelist functionality...
I assumed he knew about that, but maybe I shouldn't have
also this is a pretty nice plugin to be able to manage a whitelist a bit better: https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/invitation-only :D
void void
oh wait i can whitelist by username?
i saw whitelist and assumed IP's which none of us have statics so
mental meadow
No, you can(have to) whitelist usernames or UUIDs
olive marlin
Whitelist per username/UUID is built-in.
void void
yeah having the ability to let other people invite though is nice
probably could do without
is there a plugin for incremental backups? i've been using borg but is sort of clunky
olive marlin
I think most people use external tools. Many seem to use rsnapshot?
limber knotBOT
yea all plugin backups are full backups iirc
and there's 0 for automated restore :c
void void
ahh bummer
olive marlin
I personally have a custom wrapper around restic, but will be switching out to knoxite in a few months, if it finally has first release.
void void
i really gotta figure out my docker issues
limber knotBOT
/whitelist is a vanilla command btw
void void
yeah im just going to whitelist
and not use this plugin
i only have like 4-5 people that play regularly
olive marlin
I have mc in docker, backups are scheduled with systemd.
void void
and they're all IRL friends
@olive marlin how do you handle the tty save off commands?
olive marlin
I send them through rcon.
olive marlin
My docker image has rcon-cli in it, I just run it with the command I want.
void void
could i use your image?
twin lagoon
i can just do echo "say test" >> /server/stdin
void void
somehow i've lost the ability to pass commands through mine
olive marlin
kbo use itzg/minecraft-server, it's fine.
void void
it worked great until i tried mnaking a docker compose
limber knotBOT
basically if there's something out there that's minimal setup, can upload to cloud providers, has some degree of versioning, and can do automated restores, I'd use it.
olive marlin
I will probably switch to stdin, but that will come with the rest of my backend rework in a few months when I'm done with it.
void void
prof is this one yours?
limber knotBOT
I setup some form of rsync I think along with simplebackup plugin and yea I don't remember how I set that up
olive marlin
My is quite specific to my setup 🙂
limber knotBOT
I guess I may just use duplicate or duplicacy on my meme serbur too ¯_(ツ)_/¯
twin lagoon
scuffed
void void
with a custom image that has screen in it
olive marlin
Using screen/tmux in docker image 🤮
twin lagoon
by just running the server
void void
olive marlin
Either enable TTY when creating the container, or enabling rcon and using rcon-cli.
void void
i have enabled TTY
for some reason though my docker compose file has screwed up
the borg script still runs but none of the commands get passed through
infact if i docker attach papermc
i can't even input stop
no idea what's going wrong
twin lagoon
you could just use pterodactyl if you want the benefits of docker but don't understand what to do
lol
void void
you guys see anything inherently wrong with my compose file?
like maybe true needs to be in quotes or something?
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stdin_open: true
olive marlin
Proxi my Rust code is so bad, I'm thinking about abandoning the project 😔
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just rewrite it pussy .
olive marlin
I want to use off-the-shelf bot to do it better, and use what I learned in our internal bot/website/manager.
I can't for the life of me figure out how to DRY my prompt code, and don't want code duplication lol
Writing prompt builders is hard.
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generics 
olive marlin
WYM?
untold copper
I love how prof never gets triggered :3
and how he's had the same profile pic forever lol
olive marlin
Michael 
brave halo
General question, what's the best plugin for tickets / warns in your experience (open question looking for recommendations)
olive marlin
I didn't have the same profile pic. I change the puns from time to time.
olive marlin
Though I should look into getting a profile picture made and just keep it.
untold copper
yeah its not expensive
heady spear
{ x: Double, y: Int ->
x.let {
var i = x
for (o in 1 until y) i *= it
i
}
}(10.0, 2)
yay I figured out how to multiply 10 by itself in kotlin, quite straight forward tbh
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fn make_prompt(
text: &str,
input_validation: impl Fn(&str) -> bool,
action: impl FnOnce(&str) -> (),
) {
// Now do the thing!
}```yes ok
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unless I misunderstood what you wanted
untold copper
a lot of us are professional software developers
how's the job?
left swift
City is a noob
topaz mortar
i get loads of money
Thought you would get money by being horny.
heady spear
no man aa, shut the fuck up
left swift
olive marlin
You know how Discord has the structure of its Message?
{
"content": "Content",
"embed": {
"colour": "RED",
"description": "Description",
"fields": [
{
"name": "Name",
"value": "Value",
"inline": true
}
],
"footer": "Footer",
"author": {
"name": "Name"
}
}
}
I need to make a builder that constructs it from user responses.
I have a wrapper function which performs creating the prompt from text etc. But it can return any of these actions:
pub enum PromptResult {
Accept,
Cancel,
Skip,
Preview,
TimedOut,
Message(String),
}
The issue is that all actions (apart from Message) will always be handled the same way.
untold copper
lol
mossy vessel
Thought you would get money by being horny.
I do 😌
olive marlin
But since sometimes it includes returning from the function which creates the prompt for each of the fields, it's meh.
left swift
Make onlyfans
olive marlin
Was thinking about creating macro for that, but it feels like overkill.
topaz mortar
send me money pls
🤑 💸 💰 Is that enough?
olive marlin
It's entirely possible I just structured my code wrongly.
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@heady spear ```kotlin
{ x: Double, y: Int ->
(1..y + 1).reduce<Number, Int> { a, _ -> a.toDouble() * x }.toDouble()
}(10.0, 2)
woven otter
weirdos
heady spear
1..y + 1 would make it 1000 tho, wouldn't it?
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no
void void
./s/my/by
woven otter
Says the 🦆
says the \w+
heady spear
ah
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it also reduces on the first element as the accumulator, so can't 0..y
limber knotBOT
doesn't it just mirror a normal fori?
urban adder
which plugin can be used to synchronize the chat with Discord (definitely not discordsrv), while it should accept time and player list commands from everyone, work on versions 1.7-1.16, support death and entry / exit messages in the afc
urban adder
yes
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@cunning raft 
twin lagoon
no he said 1.7
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don't care just wanna harass jroy
urban adder
twin lagoon
^
urban adder
this is too simple a plugin so it can work on all versions
twin lagoon
not really
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why don't you make it then
twin lagoon
1.7.10 is old as fuck
no one cares about it
if it works on 1.7 it's more likely to be that the plugin author does not care and that the plugin somehow works on 1.7
urban adder
as you can see there are solutions
olive marlin
Any reason why you can't use it?
urban adder
this plugin has hundreds of configuration lines but is completely unsuitable for the requirements above
urban adder
the plugin does not work with commands for users without a role
urban adder
I talked to the discordsrv developers. he definitely does not support it and will not
twin lagoon
heady spear
what does that even mean lol
urban adder
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heady spear
that you haven't setup permissions properly?
heady spear
ah, discord roles
urban adder
is 2 simple functions such a complex solution that no one has?
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google is pretty simple, just enter something and show stuff that correlates
just make google ?
olive marlin
It's 2 simple functions you need to add, but need a huge core that will handle it.
Proxi ignored my messages 
twin lagoon
confirmed proxi hates you
olive marlin
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😔
twin lagoon
😔
minor badge
The following things have come to my attention
-
You hate me:
This is, unfortunately, pretty clear by your lack of response. -
You want me dead:
Unwanted interaction with me means you dislike me. Disliking me means you probably want me to not have any good luck in life. Probably want me dead.
twin lagoon
The following things have come to my attention
-
You hate me:
This is, unfortunately, pretty clear by your lack of response. -
You want me dead:
Unwanted interaction with me means you dislike me. Disliking me means you probably want me to not have any good luck in life. Probably want me dead. -
You're laughing right now:
By laughing at this message, you are expressing that you truly do not care about my feelings. You clearly know this is true, and find pleasure in it.
Why do you hate me?
All I've done is:
- Be nice
- Be supportive
- Be caring
- Be there in your toughest times
- Be here whenever you need me
However, even in the best of times, all you've done is:
- Be rude
- Be angry with me
- Look down on me
- Laugh at me
- Ignore me
- Express your distaste for me
- Wish for my death
Here's what this means:
- Appropriate steps will be taken in order to make your life a living hell.
- No matter how many times you apologize, I will still hunt you down.
- I, like most people on this planet, fucking despise you.
Why?
You may be asking why I've come to this conclusion. Well, the simple, elegant, and brutal truth is that you are a fucking idiot. I can not stand for this level of disrespect any longer. Goodbye.
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thank you michale
olive marlin
We need .hate command for it ||/s||
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let me add a wilbur soot command at the same time
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wtf
olive marlin
City is jealous we are being nice back to nice Proxi, and ignore City.
twin lagoon
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deleting MCIFDBDEXP
limber knotBOT
Yep, let's ignore city
heady spear
@twin lagoon ur very cute
twin lagoon
thx u 2
heady spear
wanna kiss?
twin lagoon
wanna fuck?
true canyon
Get a room you two
untold copper
lol
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hi bax
heady spear
can we start by touching hands
minor badge
stop jumping to the end city
untold copper
city man you never keep it PG do you xD
heady spear
I'm SORRY I have a problem
topaz mortar
🙂
heady spear
ysl would touch my hand
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shut up mochale
twin lagoon
wtf
minor badge
wtf
twin lagoon
😔
limber knotBOT
wtf
heady spear
this is why we need to punish proxi
woven otter
paper chat horny again
heady spear
she's off the rails
woven otter
weird place
twin lagoon
why are there so many ways to set a variable
heady spear
proxi i am bringing my whip .
twin lagoon
what do i use
untold copper
use let
limber knotBOT
@urban adder you can use purpleIRC
untold copper
michael uhm i would use let x = 10
heady spear
doesn't vic have some dumb discord thing
untold copper
as for const
heady spear
is that ready
untold copper
i dont remember why not but there's a difference 
woven otter
dumbos
untold copper
ok so in const
twin lagoon
good to know
limber knotBOT
and purpleIRC can go directly into dumcord too, it has like a million hooks
topaz mortar
ES5 support. 😄
wraith trail
Snoopsa it says it in the name
wraith trail
Yeah
twin lagoon
so it's final
untold copper
Snoopsa it says it in the name
wha?
twin lagoon
but not java
olive marlin
const -> constant -> unchangeable.
topaz mortar
JS -> Kotlin
Const -> val
Let -> var
wraith trail
Const = constant
limber knotBOT
Use Bukkit IRC Transport since that one is the only bridge mentioned in the espernet charter
heady spear
let is block scoped, and it can be updated within its scope
limber knotBOT
wut
heady spear
but it cannot be re-declared
limber knotBOT
where dat
heady spear
let a = 10
a = 25
works
limber knotBOT
kinda too late now tho, I forked purpleirc and removed a ton of the cruft in there
untold copper
yes
limber knotBOT
Actually just at https://esper.net/bots.php
wraith trail
Yes
limber knotBOT
I think I saw that plugin back when I was searching for one a while ago, idk if it works
It doesn't work anymore either way
wraith trail
That's The whole point
heady spear
so eh, let cannot be re-declared and has better scoping. use it, it's neat
though it's not neat because it's javascript
and it's an awful language
heady spear
no, it can be re-assigned
untold copper
whats the difference?
heady spear
var a = 10
var a = 'a'
a is re-declared
spiral robin
untold copper
and you can't do that with let or const?
heady spear
you cannot
heady spear
also the fact that my head event contains any knowledge of javascript sickens me
brb lemme go throw up
void void
limber knotBOT
javascript dum, that I can agree
void void
this is the motherfucker who signed on and killed my wolves
anyone know him in here? i can't figure out how he got my IP
untold copper
ban him
twin lagoon
lol
limber knotBOT
lol kbo chill
void void
WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE
spiral robin
untold copper
lmao
limber knotBOT
there are server list sites that'll scan for your server
which reminds me
I gotta add a firewall rule to stop one of those
untold copper
imagine running an online mode server :PPP pls no kill
wait
imagine running a server
yes, better.
olive marlin
Does anyone know how to cite title, but include reference in LaTeX? If I do \citetile{book-name}, I only get the title without hyperlink/bibliography entry ID or anything 
dim shadow
hi did someone say latex
olive marlin
I guess I should find LaTeX support Discord lol
spiral robin
Latex 
dim shadow
oh nvm the other latex
untold copper
latex (not that one)
olive marlin
Latex is fun. Sometimes.
untold copper
isn't every programming language
olive marlin
Not sure I'd call it a programming language. And JS isn't fun.
untold copper
what hey i dont do code
dim shadow
isnt latex a uhh like a markup language or a thing
untold copper
LaTeX is a software system for document preparation. When writing, the writer uses plain text as opposed to the formatted text found in "What You See Is What You Get" word processors like Microsoft Word, LibreOffice Writer and Apple Pages.
cedar spade
City loves latex
olive marlin
Technically latex is turing complete iirc.
dim shadow
so html but for word instead of web?
untold copper
ah yes, the simple explanation
olive marlin
Kinda?
dim shadow
thats what i got from that paragraph lol
olive marlin
\newcount\temp
\newcount\fone
\newcount\ftwo
\newcount\counter
\newcommand{\fibonacci}[1]{
\counter=#1
\fone=1
\ftwo=1
\temp=0
\the\fone, \the\ftwo
\fibloop
}
\newcommand{\fibloop}{,
\let\next= \fibloop
\temp=\fone
\fone=\ftwo
\advance\ftwo by \temp
\ifnum\counter\let\next=\relax\else\advance\counter by -1\fi
\the\ftwo
\next
}
Fibonacci calculator in LaTeX 👀
limber knotBOT
it's just a pretty powerful markup language with focus on scientific stuff
olive marlin
Kotlin is a good language that runs on JVM.
olive marlin
Some people like to type more, so they use Java.
heady spear
i love @cedar spade
cedar spade
phoenix isn't convinced kotlin works on the JVM
limber knotBOT
nah, the good part :P
dim shadow
interpretception
limber knotBOT
kotlin is a less-verbose java
olive marlin
And don't like language doing all the heavy work for them.
heady spear
yes and c++ is less-verbose assembly
olive marlin
Yeah, that's why I use it. less verbose java with null-safety.
limber knotBOT
any high level langauge does the heavy work lol
dim shadow
lol i was gonna say c++ more verbose java xD
heady spear
java is less verbose bit-flipping
olive marlin
Also, You can transpile Kotlin into JS code.
twin lagoon
bloodstone 
cedar spade
JS is less verbose banging-your-head-against-a-brick-wall
limber knotBOT
using an IDE auto complete to write readable code vs writing unreadable code by hand... I know what I would pick lol
heady spear
if you can't write readable code then that's a you problem
dim shadow
auto complete has totally spoiled me tho
limber knotBOT
Kotlin is basically just IntelliJ completions made into its own language
heady spear
not a problem with the language lol
dim shadow
i dont think i could code without it now
limber knotBOT
less verbose = less readable ¯_(ツ)_/¯
olive marlin
My issue is not auto-generating code etc. My issue is having to maintain it.
dim shadow
id be googling every method call "wtf was thhat method called"
olive marlin
Using Kotlin I can have my code more DRY. One of the main reasons I personally use it tbh.
heady spear
You can write perfectly readable code in kotlin, just like you can write completely unreadable code in Java
olive marlin
Michael
heady spear
the language doesn't matter if you're not a horrible programmer
olive marlin
What about whitespace or brainfuck?
limber knotBOT
maybe I've yet to see good kotlin code lol
heady spear
ye sure
olive marlin
I think language will change readability of code, as well as how well you know the language atc.
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@heady spear only commands left before ban compiles 
heady spear
Not knowing a language doesn't make the language bad
dim shadow
dont forget about comments
heady spear
if you're bad at using it, it hardly means the language is bad
spiral robin
olive marlin
I feel like if you don't know either Java nor Kotlin, Java will have slight edge to readability.
limber knotBOT
but having a steep learning curve doesn't help people get into it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I doubt anybody would recommend someone who knows nothing about programming to start with kotlin lol
heady spear
Java would be easier if you come from a C/C# background, I suppose
olive marlin
It doesn't have steep learning curve. I knew many langs before, and Java was way harder than Kotlin for me.
twin lagoon
aber 
heady spear
I wouldn't recommend Java either
olive marlin
Python.
dim shadow
Java would be easier if you come from a C/C# background, I suppose
can confirm, i learned plugin dev in like 2 days with just c++ knowledge
cedar spade
aberystwyth?
limber knotBOT
I would recommend getting not going into programming and saving their liver
-getting
heady spear
OOP concepts are hard af to learn if you have no programming knowledge
void void
XDDFF
cedar spade
(kotlin addicts)
heady spear
But Kotlin being supposedly harder to get into doesn't change anything about it's readability so idk what you're even getting at now
spiral robin
michael 
vernal moth
but you going to get addicted to smth
zealous wedge
just stay away from computers
void void
imagine comparing spigot to paper
limber knotBOT
I came from functional PHP/C stuff and boy was java oop annoying... but once you get it it's pretty cool
vernal moth
and imagine using XD
XXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
dim shadow
but you going to get addicted to smth
a fuckin men
heady spear
if you keep changing the argument then maybe you'll run into a point eventually
zealous wedge
for some reason I've seen some modders who claim they know kotlin but not java
zealous wedge
weird
vernal moth
now: will it be hard for the to leanr java? hell no
dim shadow
maybe thats what he started with lol i started with an even lamer language
baby steps
cedar spade
we should all switch to python and make the world a better place
heady spear
I'm taking a class in C#. It's just less verbose C
vernal moth
c# is just different java
heady spear
a hell of a lot harder to read at that
vernal moth
was easy to pick up
dim shadow
i learned c# to impress girls but then i realized none of them had the .net framework 1.5 installed
topaz mortar
C# is just Microsofts approach of using Java without being fucked by Oracle. xD
dim shadow
so i turned to c++ and never looked back till i met y'all
and yes c# is totally microsoft java LOL
the whole system.out.println thing is like almost identical on both
topaz mortar
C# wouldn't exist if Sun didn't go in court against Microsoft.
https://www.infoworld.com/article/2074908/sun-microsoft-settle-java-lawsuit.html
dim shadow
wait wot
heady spear
C# has some cool features that they don't even want you to use
dim shadow
was it a grudge thing LOL
heady spear
unsafe is the only reason C# is worth using :'')
cedar spade
you're unsafe
heady spear
and uh references because micro-optimizations are cool yay
dim shadow
whats unsafe? my c# is rusty af :I
limber knotBOT
who's code are you calling unsafe?!?
topaz mortar
Sexual intercourse can be unsafe.
dim shadow
🤮
zealous wedge
it could be both fun and unsafe
heady spear
i don't believe sex is real tbh
waxen panther
cedar spade
like poor broc over here
waxen panther
silence md .
topaz mortar
think of the children
No children planned.
dim shadow
i don't believe sex is real tbh
it's not it's just how the matrix explains our existence
heady spear
@cedar spade bro if you think about children when discussing sex then we have a problem
zealous wedge
i am triple the average age of this channel nowadays
you're 15?
waxen panther
no im 5
twin lagoon
broccolai
heady spear
am distinctly not thinking about the children .
waxen panther
michael 
dim shadow
so yeah assembly language og & winner of language discussion 👏 👏 its our fault our brains cant catch up and we have to baby ourselves with high level tools
cedar spade
<@!145878422566993920> bro if you think about children when discussing sex then ...
look at what you've done, you've poisoned a poor child's mind
no what
we agreed punch cards are the best
zealous wedge
personally, I prefer a big hammer
dim shadow
and where do ur punch cards come from sir?
zealous wedge
only worthwhile tool
cedar spade
When a hole punch and a piece of paper love each other very much
dim shadow
but the forests n shit man
dim shadow
save the earth vote paperless assembly
waxen panther
how is mc broken on my linux installl again omfl
zealous wedge
city who don't u have a crush on
heady spear
everyone tbh
cedar spade
oh
heady spear
im too cynical to care about anyone
dim shadow
nobody else's denying it screw it i have a crush on u as well
heady spear
everyone will just fuck me over eventually
cedar spade
mood
dim shadow
erp?
waxen panther
the fortnite players life