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void void
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you're not the only one

twin lagoon
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don't use it either

slim nymph
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our shits so integrated every subsystem works together

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consistent colors throughout everything

zealous wedge
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I used to not use essx

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because I had a competitor to it :p

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it hasn't been updated since 2014 tho

safe plover
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Hosting a server on an iphone go brr

cunning raft
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uhhh

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ok

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Pretty sure everyone here recommend you don't do that

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But wtevr

limber knotBOT
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Actually, no

wide chasm
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I always felt like EssentialsX does way too much, I'd personally never use it on a server, I'd much rather use a bunch of more modular plugins that provide the functionality I actually want.

wild escarp
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now player test it

slim nymph
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chicken owning it over here got us cross-server tab list synchronization so it shows everyone on, not just your smp

limber knotBOT
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The only issue most here have is the fact that the iphone had to be jailbroken

olive marlin
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For me there were too many things to turn off, and some of them weren't possible to turn off a few years back.

slim nymph
safe plover
olive marlin
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Now, I'd probably use essx.

slim nymph
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I now have to see the dang bot on tab 24/7 now though lol

olive marlin
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But I got all the features I need with other plugins.

twin lagoon
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we just have separate game instances for each map

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and synchronise everything

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no need for essx at that point

slim nymph
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how do people deal with sorting, do you have to unregister all players and resend to register something in middle of list?

twin lagoon
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.g jetbrains academy

limber knotBOT
zealous wedge
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how much do you charge to make the ad at the bottom go away :p

twin lagoon
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the "essential" features of essx would be the teleportation system for me

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e.g. homes, warps, tpa

zealous wedge
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nice is a bit of a stretch

twin lagoon
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can't really do that with multiple instances that are supposed to be sychronized in terms of chat etc

zealous wedge
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it's ok at best

cunning raft
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The idea for 5.x is to modularize everything so you can disable commands or entire systems

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(economy teleport etc)

zealous wedge
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yall doing now what I did with CommandBook in 2012

twin lagoon
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and yet it's cancer

wide chasm
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And here I was thinking that modularization instantly improved every plugin. Guess I'll revert those last 200 commits then /s

spiral robin
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Gm

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hi

void void
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Uh, do I use IntelliJ or Eclipse?

limber knotBOT
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Both work

void void
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are there any differences

limber knotBOT
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Yes

void void
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which would you recommend

limber knotBOT
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IntelliJ recieves most of the support here, I personally use Eclipse

spiral robin
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I use notepad++

void void
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true chad

void void
limber knotBOT
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There was an IDE for MCPaint

void void
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Yeah

limber knotBOT
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*MSPaint

vernal moth
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.g mspaint ide

limber knotBOT
void void
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I write my code with speech input haha jk

limber knotBOT
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Oh wow, it's being developed by someone that is in this discord

wide chasm
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Yes, Rubba

slim nymph
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he hasnt talked in 32 years has he

wide chasm
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In here, no

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Don't think on Spigot either, doesn't seem to do much mc dev. stuff anymore

radiant vine
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ok i need some help im new to all this but if i wanted a hardermobs plugin tested for 1.13, would it work for the latest versions? sorry for noob question

twin lagoon
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likely

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try it and see

radiant vine
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alr

olive garden
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@wicked remnant speak up or get yeeted

void void
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Lmao

olive garden
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tbh he claims he's working on his first useful project

zealous wedge
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or don't

olive garden
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so maybe we shouldn't bother him

spiral robin
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wow how smart

untold copper
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ok gn

wicked remnant
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What happened

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I've been summoned

zealous wedge
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mspaint

wicked remnant
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Oh boy, my deranged baby

zealous wedge
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people discovered it again

wicked remnant
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I was thinking of picking back up development of it again for shits and giggles, if anyone has feature ideas feel free to make an issue

woven otter
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I thought you were going to make something useful for once

wicked remnant
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I'm almost done with the brewing app, I need to lower my productivity by the end of winter break

void void
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Hey, Can I use the bukkit API 1.16 on a 1.12 server ?

limber knotBOT
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nope

zealous wedge
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maybe

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some things will work, some things won't

limber knotBOT
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Unless you are using a strange fork or use extra work, but generally, no

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Some features will work, but it would the same as using bukkit 1.12 api. Plus things like materials would be litterally unusuable

void void
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I would use the newer Material colored glass pane in v1.12 without iteamStack data in byte

limber knotBOT
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That won't work, guaranteed

safe plover
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Is there a way to specify which cores i want my minecraft server to use ?

woven otter
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what do you mean by that?

vernal moth
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Well, process affinity and shit

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It's not impossible

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But like, let your OS handle it

worn ember
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theres no reason to do it tho

potent fossil
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so i blacked out drunk af last night and cyberpunk was running all night

safe plover
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Well, if you knew what im running a server on, youd know there is a reason

potent fossil
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lol

mossy vessel
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What a fun night

worn ember
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yeh blacking out is great fun

woven otter
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oh cpu corres

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right

safe plover
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The thing is, im running a server on my iphone, which has both, low power and high power cores, but according to htop, only low power ones are being used and the high power ones sit at 0% all the time

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How can i make the server use the high power cores

potent fossil
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barty no lie

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i legitimately do not remember

vernal moth
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That's a battery optimization lean

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Apple decides what's best

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Android allows you to exclude an app from battery optimization, I bet apple doesn't allow you to do that

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But might be worth a try

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Most phones only use the high power cores to "turbo", for burst tasks

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Why not?

mossy vessel
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Cheaper than some crappy hosts

safe plover
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"cheaper"

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Yea... well...

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no.

mossy vessel
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Like I said, crappy host.

vernal moth
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I don't think he would want to run a 24/7 server

safe plover
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shitty iphone

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And im doing this just for fun

vernal moth
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You can't compare Cross arch like that

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Nobody uses geekbench for a reason

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Yes the CPUs are amazing

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No they are not even close to desktop CPUs

safe plover
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Holy shit

vernal moth
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?

safe plover
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the speed of that ram

vernal moth
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What about it?

visual egret
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the speed

safe plover
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yes

vernal moth
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Can't compare lpddr to normal ddr

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Just fyi

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Iirc it's about 1000mhz you gotta subtract till it makes somewhat sense

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But again: you can't compare across architectures

void void
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can you describe your environment a bit more?

twin lagoon
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iphone 11

void void
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is it jailbroken?

safe plover
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topkek

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yes

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ofc it is

visual egret
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nah bro hes running the official apple minecraft server /s

twin lagoon
void void
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well macos has thread affinity apis available since 10.5

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since macos and ios share same kernel since idk what version, it's possible that you can set the affinity

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though not sure if there's a cli tool for that

visual egret
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party fix up the resolution of your github avatar thing

twin lagoon
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nice email ur going down kiddo

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starting backtrack 5

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watch out

safe plover
visual egret
twin lagoon
void void
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i mean given that the api is probably available

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it's not hard to write a tool

safe plover
void void
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only ~200 can be considered as "cheating"

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because i enabled renovate and it went over like 90 repos

visual egret
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you can see where i had free time

mossy vessel
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I was pretty lazy this year, only ~900 commits

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*last

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smh

potent fossil
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510 for me in 2020

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kek

limber knotBOT
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I only got like 400 commits in 2020

visual egret
void void
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i think i was in the top 10 of top commiters in estonia at some point

limber knotBOT
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To be fair, I probably got around 100 - 200 commits in forks

safe plover
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i think i have the most

potent fossil
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Why are you killing your server @spare venture

visual egret
mossy vessel
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GH only displays commits targeting the default branch doesn't it?

limber knotBOT
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Yep, and they cannot be within a fork

potent fossil
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bart you're weak

mossy vessel
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Knew it, because I was pretty sure I did stuff at the 31st

cedar spade
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It's pretty limited, most people use MV/other plugins

twin lagoon
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jesus christ

safe plover
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The best setup jailbreak community has to offer

warm anchor
quasi valley
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I know a better setup, no jailbreak at all

warm anchor
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But how are you gonna host your Hypickle network on an array of iPhones

limber knotBOT
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Why are so many against jailbreaking?

safe plover
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to be fair, would like to know the same

visual egret
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ive got no idea why people dont likee jailbreaks

zealous wedge
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i have an even better setup: don't have a phone

quasi valley
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do you even know what that really is ๐Ÿ˜‚

void void
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people like to lick apple's boot

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like some like to lick discord's

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"omg ToS"

visual egret
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kneny just because im 13 doesent mean ive never jailbroken my phone

quasi valley
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what did you do

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cheat in temple run?

twin lagoon
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is kenny bullying children again

warm anchor
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Yes

void void
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kneny pls

twin lagoon
mossy vessel
void void
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go do something useful

visual egret
void void
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don't you have some issues open on viaversion

quasi valley
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yes but basically all are 1.8-1.12 issues

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which I won't touch kekw

vernal moth
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I only ever owned two apple devices, a ipod nano and a ipod touch, the latter one always jailbroken

visual egret
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the sequel

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also i love the logo being on top of the scoreboard

safe plover
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I wanna jailbreak my old iPod Touch 2G

vernal moth
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I had a 3g iirc

safe plover
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I tried doing it once, but looks like windows 10 is too new for the OG tools

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Didnt succeed once

void void
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i wonder if i can jb my se 2020 already

safe plover
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What ios version ?

void void
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should be on latest beta rn...

safe plover
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cant

visual egret
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can i jailbreak the SE 2020

safe plover
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Depends which ios

visual egret
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lemme check

potent fossil
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wat

visual egret
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party is no longer a server host?

potent fossil
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tf y

void void
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it's a secret

limpid comet
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Simple censorship

void void
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๐Ÿ‘€

potent fossil
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fine m8

mossy vessel
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Irc never forgets.

potent fossil
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send me nudes in dm @spare venture

visual egret
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it does if noone was online

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wtf

safe plover
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cant

visual egret
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can i jailbreak that ?

safe plover
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nope

visual egret
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:(

safe plover
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Thats why im stuck on 13.3.1 with my iphone 11

void void
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which version can you even jailbreak?

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13.x?

visual egret
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13.3.1

safe plover
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every ios 13 version is jailbreakable atm

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yup

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Well

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it is, but only with checkra1n

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Thats a bootrom exploit tho

visual egret
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what does that mean

void void
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iirc se 2020 wasn't vulnerable to checkra1n?

safe plover
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Nope

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its A13

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Checkra1n works only up to A11

void void
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ye

safe plover
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A12 patched the memory leak or whatever and A13 patched it entirely

void void
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tbh being able to jailbreak is nice and bad at the same time

visual egret
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why bad lol

void void
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things i can do after jailbreaking vs how jailbreaking/vulnerability can be used against me

visual egret
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wdym

safe plover
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its really easy to mess stuff up if you dont know what youre doing

void void
visual egret
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?

void void
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what do you mean ?

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how do i explain it in a simpler way lol

safe plover
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The most common example of not knowing what youre doing is not changing the default ssh password

left swift
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How many new year jokes has there been today

wild escarp
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iPhones lol

visual egret
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features lol amiright

left swift
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Yo party

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It's been like a year since u released ur party bro

void void
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i used to have a collection of such pictures

visual egret
void void
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that can be done pretty quick tho

wild escarp
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lol

void void
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well i don't remember how to do that

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but i know it can be lol

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Viete's theorem or w.e

visual egret
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ah

safe plover
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I never used Viete's to solve these

visual egret
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when?

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what do you mean

heady spear
visual egret
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yeah i was confused by it too

heady spear
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well it's like saying "solve 5x for x"

wild escarp
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can't you subtract 25 and then make it x^2 + 10x = -25

wide chasm
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You can

wild escarp
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Now it's an equation

wide chasm
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Doesn't necessarily make it much easier

heady spear
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no, it never says that it's equal to 0 lol

wide chasm
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Well, if there's no = 0 you can't

heady spear
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assuming 0 makes no sense

visual egret
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party how did you make the resourcepack

wild escarp
visual egret
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like how did you find the characters to put into the scoreboard etc

heady spear
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I am not mad, it's just nonsensical.

wide chasm
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You don't just assume that the formula equals zero though

heady spear
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how is that pedantic lol, you're asking people to solve for a solution that doesn't exist lmao

wide chasm
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I mean, form a mathematics standpoint, you shouldn't make assumptions like that

heady spear
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Engineers don't magically assume that expressions are equations but ok

wide chasm
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It's understandable, but technically incorrect

visual egret
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party what is calculus

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teach me

olive garden
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The solution might be number set on which the operation is valid. Like definitionsmengel or whatever it's called

wide chasm
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Calculus is where you have numbers, do poof and you get new numbers

left swift
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Oskar u dont even know what a rotary phone is how u supposed to learn calculus

olive garden
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*definitionsmenge

visual egret
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i know what a rotary phone is nomana

left swift
limber knotBOT
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what are the zeroes of that anyways, x=1 and x=5?

heady spear
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Discounting air resistance is an approximation, not magic assumptions

limber knotBOT
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it's been so long since i've done algebra lol

left swift
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Its that time of day when general chat turns into math chat

heady spear
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lol ok ur calling me mad lel the irony

left swift
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Now its insult chat time of day

limber knotBOT
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and you're making it easy barty :)

heady spear
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zml how is 2021 for you? ๐Ÿ˜„

visual egret
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no

limber knotBOT
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it's full of idiots so far city

left swift
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City I havent spoken to you since last year wowzers

heady spear
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ok mate plz solve 100x^2 barty!!

olive garden
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as I said, isn't the answer the set of numbers for which the operation is valid?

limber knotBOT
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and tbh barty you do realize math is the sport of being pedantic, right

olive garden
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.wa x^2 - 10x + 25

limber knotBOT
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visual egret
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lol

woven otter
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instead of quadratic equations put differential equations in there

wide chasm
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I mean, formal mathematics has to be rigorous otherwise nothing would work

olive garden
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it says "root: x = 5"

visual egret
olive garden
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not "solution: x = 5"

wide chasm
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Since this is a minecraft chat, I think it's safe to assume that it isn't much of an issue

left swift
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Inflated economy

woven otter
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then put in partial differential equations

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heady spear
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The root of a quadratic is not "the solution"

worn ember
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you people really get triggered over nothing

visual egret
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what do you mean

heady spear
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? approximations are not assumptions

visual egret
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party is doing math wrong

limber knotBOT
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i think it's time to turn off the computer lol

woven otter
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people being wrong so early in 2021 smh

left swift
heady spear
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I don't know why you are so bloody triggered about this, all I said is that there's nothing to solve in that image and you went nuts

wide chasm
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First day of 2021 and I already need popcorn, how great

heady spear
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maybe try to chill a little ๐Ÿ™‚

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Stop being so toxic all the time. The personal insults are lame.

visual egret
woven otter
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Guys let's remember that there are more important issues out there

left swift
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Like people using 1.8

wide chasm
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Yeah, where's pi vs tau

slim nymph
heady spear
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right, saying that the question is phrased poorly is on the same level as effectively calling people brain dead

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good one barty :]

woven otter
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tau is pretty hot

heady spear
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get help lol

wide chasm
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I prefer tau/2 ๐Ÿ™‚

left swift
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Utopia is fine but smp9 is on fire aikar fix

heady spear
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looool the irony

visual egret
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how did you do it

minor badge
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shut up both of you

woven otter
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smol

worn ember
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๐Ÿฟ

woven otter
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ahh yes

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?kick @spare venture shut up

leaden oxideBOT
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dynoError I can't kick barty#2255

woven otter
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rekt

visual egret
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party how dod you do the rainbow text

minor badge
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bruh?

wide chasm
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inb4 HOHOHO role

woven otter
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i like how bot fails

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it was yes

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but i'm over hohoho so it's fine :)

quasi valley
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was tinfoilhat

visual egret
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NOOOO

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barty no hoohoho rank

left swift
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Delete yohoho

woven otter
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delete mana

worn ember
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hai kenny

left swift
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Already done

twin lagoon
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@minor badge ๐Ÿ˜”

visual egret
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delete papermc1 and create papermc 2.0

heady spear
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Oh right, almost forgot... @mental meadow uwu

woven otter
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no papermc 3.0

left swift
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We're already in papermc2.0

visual egret
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papermc 6.9

warm anchor
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Oskar is too young for paper 1.0

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He wasnโ€™t even born yet

visual egret
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then how am i here

left swift
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If oskar was here in 1.0 he would've been bullied out of here already

worn ember
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must be freezin cuz its full of snowflakes here

warm anchor
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No he will ping wizjany and get kicked

left swift
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He will ask wiz a question and get kicked

visual egret
twin lagoon
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is immutable just a dumber word version of read-only / touch once

left swift
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Wait wat I deleted my wiz screenshot

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Noooo

wide chasm
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Immutable is the sexy word for read only

twin lagoon
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dum

worn ember
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touch once

woven otter
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I like touching

wide chasm
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Although if with read-only you imply final, then immutable is different

left swift
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Only once

heady spear
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imo immutable is stronger than read-only, at least when you got shit like kotlin where read-only doesn't imply immutable

twin lagoon
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kotlin is dum

quasi valley
woven otter
visual egret
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there is an emoji war on those 3 messages

quasi valley
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democracy has failed us

heady spear
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read only collections can be mutable (though you don't know without instanceof/as) whereas immutable collections are specifically immutable, etc. Dunno how common that is in other languages though

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that's """a thing""" in Rust with its &mut vs & references

wide chasm
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afaik most non-functional programming languages have a different concept for final and immutable

visual egret
woven otter
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kotlin is nice

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then there's e.g. Haskell with its immutable everything

olive garden
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That's like Future not having a #complete method, but CompletableFuture has that method and you need an instanceof check

slim nymph
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this tab list limit sucks lol

olive garden
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obviously not something that you actually encounter, but that kotlin example sounds like this

slim nymph
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why mojang gotta cap it

heady spear
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Well, in that example an immutable collection can't just be cast to a mutable collection

twin lagoon
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why would you want more

heady spear
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whereas a read-only collection can be cast to a writeable collection (in the case that it's actually modifiable)

slim nymph
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like 90 or so player limit

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its truncating people off the list lol

wide chasm
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If you take read-only as how you use it in human languages, then I'd say it's closer to immutable.

woven otter
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make it switch between the people

left swift
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Just make the tab show no players

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Pay 2 tab

twin lagoon
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^

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bungeetablistplus sorting is 10/10

woven otter
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yes

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life is unfair

limber knotBOT
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Now we should make so they are visible on tab to decieve them

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@twin lagoon awa

twin lagoon
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awa

wide chasm
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Just set your server's player limit to the tab limit /s

limber knotBOT
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Don't have players at all

safe plover
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is it allowed to talk about other server software here ?

visual egret
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yeah lol

safe plover
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Just askin

visual egret
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as long as you arent screaming USE MY OWN FORK UWU OWO

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still allowed, you'll just be bullied

safe plover
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Ok, so, then

limber knotBOT
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Use minstom uwu owo or else

wide chasm
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Minestom doesn't look too bad tbh

heady spear
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They've made some very strange design decisions though

safe plover
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whats purpur and whats tuinity

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Are they better than paper ? and if yes, how ?

woven otter
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it's okay as long as you don't use yatopia or some 1.8 fork

wide chasm
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Haven't dug too deep into Minestom's code yet

left swift
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Only yatopia is better than everything cuz it combines everything together in one fork FeelsEvilMan

twin lagoon
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yatopia clappywappy

visual egret
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truly the best paper fork /s

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Tunity

heady spear
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Tuinity is paper fork and Purpur is a Tuinity fork. Some Tuinity improvements have made their way into Paper, but it does a lot of cool performance related stuff

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Purpur adds optional changes to the gameplay

visual egret
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so: tunity best fork?

wild escarp
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um... no?

left swift
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No jungkok is best fork

heady spear
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I mean... kinda

visual egret
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but i wont get support here

heady spear
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Tuinity has a Discord .-.

visual egret
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yeah ik

iron zephyr
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Why does everyone have a fork haha

visual egret
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just paper has more people i assume

left swift
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Tuinity is best unstable fork but dont tell leafy that he already has ego

twin lagoon
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for the majority paper is fine

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but some servers need more performance so then there's tuinity

heady spear
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Tuinity is kinda aimed at higher player counts

twin lagoon
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and some servers want a metric fuckton of features so they use purpur

iron zephyr
twin lagoon
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and then some servers are dumb as fuck so they use yatopia

heady spear
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Tuinity's Starlight branch is very sexy though.

twin lagoon
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leaf is very sexy

left swift
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Barty is a paid tuinity advocate

wide chasm
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Does Tuinity do anything that would necessarily harm performance for lower player counts? If not, why not pick Tuinity regardless?

heady spear
#

leaf added more api for me so i gotta simp

visual egret
#

python is being stupid again

#

smh

wide chasm
#

Fair enough

visual egret
#

barty is no longer party question mark

#

F

spiral robin
heady spear
#

leaf is also very reasonable and if you call him enough bad names then he'll go out of his way and add new features for you

visual egret
#

NOO

wide chasm
#

lol

visual egret
#

barty deleted his discord server

#

or kicked/banned me

heady spear
visual egret
#

what happened barty

left swift
#

Lmfaoooo

wide chasm
#

That looks neat

visual egret
#

barty what happened to your discord server

safe plover
#

So

heady spear
#

josh that isn't related to that ๐Ÿ˜›

safe plover
#

Tuinity or purpur

cunning raft
#

well kinda is

heady spear
#

well tbf this will make it easier for fawe to add support for starlight

wide chasm
#

Purpur adds a bunch of gameplay changes afaik, so Tuinity if you want normal minecraft

heady spear
#

nah that commit is because I asked him if it was possible and he was like "lol no" and then he added it

visual egret
#

why

#

what did i do wrong

cunning raft
#

look in mirror

visual egret
#

i see a dumbass

heady spear
#

but it does also improve large area relighting which means fawe can support that shit as well, yay

left swift
#

Barty came to be what he hated most

#

Wiz v2

#

That's what wiz says PepeSad

safe plover
#

lemme run purpur on my phone

left swift
#

We've already lost Barty

safe plover
#

brb

heady spear
#

wiz got trolled a hell of a lot though and then andrew doxxed him and all of that shit

#

can't blame the guy for getting tired ๐Ÿ˜›

left swift
wide chasm
#

Oh yeah lol

heady spear
#

ok

left swift
#

Isn't Andrew the spigot guy or is that a different andrew

wide chasm
#

Yeah spigot guy

left swift
#

Tf

potent fossil
#

can we not talk about that shit slinger, he always shows up and starts wreaking havoc as soon as he's mentioned

heady spear
#

sounds like someone else i know lol

left swift
#

Yang gang 2024

spiral robin
#

@potent fossil GWseremePeepoHappy

potent fossil
#

aber pepelove

mental meadow
#

@heady spear ๐Ÿ’•

heady spear
#

@mental meadow ๐Ÿ˜

potent fossil
#

huh

#

you're telling me to stfu for not liking that trashcan

#

interesting PES_Amateur

#

oh

#

wat lmao

worn ember
#

just gotta simp the mods every day so they dont ban you

wide chasm
#

Let's leave it at that before that discussion starts up again

worn ember
#

@wide chasm uwu owo โ™ฅ๏ธ

potent fossil
#

i am so confused right now

#

are you saying im baiting? what the hell is going on lmao

#

oh okay im severely lacking context ima just go make some โ˜•

wide chasm
#

?warn @heady spear Don't try to stir up the discussion again when you're told not to

leaden oxideBOT
#

dynoSuccess Citymonstret#8560 has been warned. || Don't try to stir up the discussion again when you're told not to

safe plover
#

"Purpur has tons of config options"

90% of them are to set which mobs you wanna ride

heady spear
#

๐Ÿ‘€

left swift
#

U can ride mobs in purpur

#

Wat

#

Billy added plugins into the server

potent fossil
#

i love waking up every morning, mounting my bee, and buzzing to work, and then i fly home on my bee, and park it in the beerage and sleep. a lovely life that purpur makes possible

left swift
#

Sounds fun imo but like as a plugin

#

That is pretty o

#

Op

#

Yes

potent fossil
#

it used to be a plugin but he turned it into a fork

slim nymph
potent fossil
#

what is that tps up there aikar

#

why is that server dying

slim nymph
#

148 players on single instance

potent fossil
#

kek

nocturne falcon
#

150ish people in one place does that liol

slim nymph
#

yeah new years party

potent fossil
#

is that even playable tho?

nocturne falcon
#

i mean... nothing has happened yet, so not sure yet

potent fossil
#

it appears that i am once again lacking context

twin lagoon
potent fossil
#

my coffee is ready so i shall go retrieve aPES_Leave

twin lagoon
#

all of our survival instances are at like 10tps and i don't hear anyone complaining about lag

nocturne falcon
#

op yeah, its decently playable atm, but the actual event hasnt started yet, sorry for not context

worn ember
left swift
#

Dont have to worry about tps if no one plays ur server CryingCool

worn ember
#

i'd love to start a server but i have no clue what i'd even make it into so meh

spiral robin
#

same but I know it'll just fail eventually since I don't have the money for decent ads lauff so I don't

woven otter
worn ember
#

maybe some day, but i'd have to pretty much change how every mechanic works

limber knotBOT
#

The same applies to be, however I do have some ideas but they are waayy too resource intensive

visual egret
#

I should encode passwords as UTF-8, right?

worn ember
#

does the dark side pay hourly?

safe plover
#

Imagine running a server with 50 plugins and 100 forge mods for 200 people

#

mm yes

worn ember
visual egret
#

smh

#

what should i encode them as

olive garden
#

and make sure to only allow alphanumerical characters

safe plover
#

and the length to be less than 6

olive garden
#

government sites do it, yo should also limit the characters

worn ember
#

you dont change the encoding, you hash them

visual egret
#

you see what im doing now?

worn ember
#

no

visual egret
#

well thats the error im getting

left swift
#

Add some salt and pepper

olive garden
#

salt is enough

left swift
#

Makes hashbrowns taste good

potent fossil
#

apparently after i blacked out last night the party ended and my family had a new years brawl fight

#

and i missed it all

amber karma
#

SWM oder ASWM?

twin lagoon
#

what

potent fossil
#

idk what you're asking sir

worn ember
#

what else is there to live for

left swift
#

Swimming with models or asymmetrical swimming with models obviously

olive garden
amber karma
#

slimeworldmanager or advancedslimeworldmanager and is it useful for minigames?

worn ember
#

ah yes i love the satisfaction of getting paid 60$ for a plugin that took me 5 days to make

potent fossil
#

what even

#

.g slimeworldmanager

limber knotBOT
left swift
#

Ded getting scammed

potent fossil
#

well advanced slime world manager seems more updated

#

slime is definitely very useful

amber karma
#

do the ram go higher

worn ember
#

it was supposed to be a simple job, but yeah i essentially had to build the entire thing from scratch cuz bungee didnt support what i needed

twin lagoon
#

advanced slime world manager seems to be taking over grinderwolf's work

warm anchor
potent fossil
#

slime is loading the entire world into ram so yes

#

expect heavy ram requirement

heady spear
#

5 full days or just random amounts of time spread out over 5 days?

worn ember
#

well random amounts being like at least 5-6h a day

warm anchor
#

Epic

heady spear
#

if it's 5 8 hour days then you should be looking at... at least $1300

#

minimum

amber karma
#

or doesnt it matter cause the whole world gets loaded cause in minigames is everything loaded cause of the players?

worn ember
#

then again i'm also stupid so i fuck stuff up a lot

potent fossil
#

ded why are you working for literally nothing

#

respect urself

#

demand ur pay

warm anchor
#

I can probably go outside and beg for money and make $60 in a day. DND

olive garden
#

oh, yes, ded can totally get paid $30+/hr

worn ember
#

yeah im not doing any more commissions thats for sure

left swift
#

Do it

olive garden
#

nice advice city

potent fossil
#

do commissions but set a better price lol

olive garden
#

with the killer portfolio ded has $30/hr is probably too low

worn ember
#

i said my estimate at like 9 hours, and i thought that was too low, they said it was too much KEKW

heady spear
#

ok fair, $20/h for DED at least tho

#

dude knows how to write code lol

potent fossil
#

idk a lot of devs in the mc community undervalue themselves like crazy or just take really shit pay for some reason

#

"yes i will make plugin for $15."

worn ember
#

well i had to write my own socket communication cuz bungee channels dont work on empty servers

#

so didnt account for that

potent fossil
#

thats when you reneg

worn ember
#

never did bungee stuff before

#

it was negotiated for me tbh

#

but yeah not accepting anything else from them

heady spear
#

Then you don't accept it. Value your time, my dude.

left swift
#

Ded has an agent

worn ember
#

well i didnt know until after i started

#

i never worked with bungee before

left swift
#

Need new agent

heady spear
#

To be fair though, at least you got valuable experience ๐Ÿ˜„

olive garden
warm anchor
#

DND you have to look at overall scope of work before you say yes

worn ember
#

well yeah, thats the only reason i finished it

olive garden
#

yeah but you accepted the price

potent fossil
#

true but even good devs do it, have seen it myself

warm anchor
#

I mean his joke maybe unfunny but yeah his time should worth a bit more

olive garden
#

yeah ded, you should sell your body

fallen oracle
#

It's a cool concept that it loads the world at once but ofc this has to be for smaller world's.

worn ember
#

sorry i'm not a streetworker like you trig

heady spear
#

I don't accept commissions for under $5k anymore because they're never worth the time

meager tusk
#

I sell my code at 25 cents an hour. That's two and a half pieces of gum per hour.

warm anchor
#

Nice

meager tusk
#

I don't need anything more PES_KingSip

left swift
#

Buying dev for 1 piece of trident layers gum strawberry/hour

spiral robin
#

Idriz broccoHug

woven otter
#

ded you will get better

#

hopefully

meager tusk
worn ember
#

well the saying of "estimate your time, then double it" honestly isnt tha bad

olive garden
#

but you should probably multiply it by 10 instead

worn ember
#

cuz i did spend about 18h on something i thought would be 8 KEKW

#

true

heady spear
#

Estimating time is veryyyyyy difficult

warm anchor
#

You should estimate the scope of work not how fast you can do it. The people paying doesnโ€™t need to know how fast you can finish it

fallen oracle
woven otter
#

yes there's planning fallacy

meager tusk
#

i happen to lose motivation during projects

heady spear
#

we all think we can complete shit in less time than we can

meager tusk
#

yeah

worn ember
#

for sure

woven otter
#

planning fallacy is a big one

meager tusk
#

my main issue is i end up procrastinating if i feel demotivated

worn ember
#

maybe if its something you've done 10x's exactly the same you could estimate it properly but otherwise

heady spear
#

There's a reason the software industry has moved away from traditional project management to agile project management

fallen oracle
heady spear
#

because it's near impossible to make a plan and stick to it when creating software :3

amber karma
worn ember
#

yeah well sadly these kids dont have the patience and need their dum plugin yesterday

twin lagoon
#

@meager tusk pepelove

meager tusk
#

Michael PES_Heart

olive garden
heady spear
#

just make premium plugins lel, very profitable

woven otter
#

city pls

meager tusk
#

Ded, aspire to be like Michael. He works on every server on the planet.

worn ember
#

i need 2 more resources

meager tusk
worn ember
#

:p

peak ginkgo
#

related

#

Can I put dealing with people here on my resume

olive garden
warm anchor
#

Yes dejay thatโ€™s management skill

worn ember
#

yes, so two more

heady spear
#

don't make premium plugins tho. it's miserable

left swift
#

I got a great plugin idea u can have ded and sell on splooget FeelsEvilMan

olive garden
#

do you only have RTP?

warm anchor
twin lagoon
worn ember
#

i do

heady spear
#

and unless your resource is well known beforehand you'll make no money

worn ember
#

thats my only public plugin

woven otter
#

well frequent updates are important

meager tusk
#

@twin lagoon PES_Heart You're the best ops boy.

peak ginkgo
#

New line

meager tusk
#

Except when you aren't.

peak ginkgo
#

updates.txt

           
       
      
+        
worn ember
#

release broken code and patch it every day so you get at the top of the list

woven otter
#

rest is just luck of your resource being something that lot of people might like

fallen oracle
#

Out of all the languages City speaks, he's choosing to speak facts right now.

olive garden
#

that's deep

worn ember
#

i should make a plot plugin i heard there are no good ones

peak ginkgo
#

Plot^2 is oss?

woven otter
#

make better FAWE

warm anchor
#

FAWEreloaded

heady spear
#

P2 barely makes enough to be worth the time put into the project rn

peak ginkgo
#

my favorite download button

#

@warm anchor I'd just drop the F and ship it as AWE

#

AsyncWorldEdit

woven otter
#

you know just make a course that teaches people to code. then sell it to kids and put ads everywhere

#

I heard it works

peak ginkgo
#

"Fast Async" is a double negative

limpid comet
#

AWE already exists

spiral robin
#

@limpid comet peepoClap peepoClap peepoClap

peak ginkgo
#

WEA

#

fuck it

meager tusk
#

And if we dropped the Async?

warm anchor
#

Lol

meager tusk
#

Just WorldEdit.

limpid comet
#

@spiral robin pog PES_Heart

heady spear
#

as much as it's fun to meme about it, P2 has made what? โ‚ฌ30000 since April but the project has been 6 years in the making. Not worth iiiiiiit

spiral robin
#

How was ur night xoxo

warm anchor
meager tusk
#

That's good. PES_SuperHappy

woven otter
#

just sell paper forks FingerGuns

peak ginkgo
#

do what i did

worn ember
meager tusk
#

BlockChanger

peak ginkgo
#

meet content creators

warm anchor
#

How about just edit. EDIT

heady spear
#

well intelli was going to revolutionise minecraft with coreedit

#

what happened to that?

peak ginkgo
#

@warm anchor World

spiral robin
#

he got married PU_PepeSadCry

warm anchor
peak ginkgo
#

imagine marriage

meager tusk
wild escarp
#

simp

peak ginkgo
#

@meager tusk idk man, just be me it kind of happens

meager tusk
#

Ok gonna try to be you

peak ginkgo
#

@spare venture That's my tactic

#

my frand

#

:)

meager tusk
spiral robin
peak ginkgo
#

just vibe and it works out eventually

#

thats my life motto at least

#

and how i develop ^^

meager tusk
#

I'll just become a youtuber and make millions of dollars.

fallen oracle
#

That โ‚ฌ30,000 is worth it if it wasn't split.

heady spear
#

when is john's server actually getting released?

meager tusk
#

What could possibly go wrong.

heady spear
#

man been hinting at it for 95 years

peak ginkgo
#

LOL you actually follow John

#

@heady spear I'm the lead on the project

heady spear
#

yes

peak ginkgo
#

dsfhkjdfhdas

heady spear
#

i simp

#

plz hire me i have great resumรฉ

peak ginkgo
#

He considers it a... second priority thing

meager tusk
#

Are you the guy who worked on FAWE?

peak ginkgo
#

Especially with the holidays and stuff

mossy vessel
meager tusk
#

Ignores

peak ginkgo
#

It'll be out... eventually.

heady spear
#

am not a fawe dev bad meme plz stop

mental meadow
#

imagine working for a youtubers server smh

#

city come I'm lonely

twin lagoon
#

shut up aurora

left swift
#

City did u ever finish that other server u were working on

woven otter
#

how many hours for that 30k tho

meager tusk
#

ANGERY youtuber servers

twin lagoon
#

youtuber servers KEKWHYPER

peak ginkgo
#

30k/6yr is uh

#

5k/yr

heady spear
#

p2 in total has made ~$60k usd

meager tusk
#

you guys are getting paid?

peak ginkgo
#

"Your annual salary of $5,000 would end up being about $2.4 per hour"

meager tusk
#

I get paid in exposure.

peak ginkgo
#

@meager tusk How's that going for you I've never heard of you

#

That's a joke

woven otter
worn ember
meager tusk
#

My name gets shown at the end of the video with a font size of 2px

heady spear
#

dejay plz i wanna simp for john ok ok

mental meadow
#

cityyy

peak ginkgo
#

I had my twitter link put into my old clients youtube video descriptions

#

literally stonks

left swift
#

Ignored PepeHands

fallen oracle
#

That's not in 6 years, that's in like a few months. I realize you've been working in it for that long though but if the return keeps coming the way it is you'll be getting a decent amount.

meager tusk
#

wtf 5Head

worn ember
peak ginkgo
#

@left swift If you asked a support question I just sort of filtered it out

heady spear
#

p2 was never meant to make money though so it's all good

#

fun project overall

meager tusk
#

ok time to contact dying channels who are desperately trying to get into minecraft to save themselves

#

ez stonks

heady spear
#

wouldn't do it again because minecraft plugins are miserable

left swift
#

Was talking to city but he hates me

peak ginkgo
#

That's exactly what you do @meager tusk

heady spear
#

huhh??? didn't see

peak ginkgo
#

If I could make 60k on a project strictly "for fun" I'd be rich @fallen oracle

worn ember
#

"one mans death is the others bread"

woven otter
heady spear
#

No see what you do is that you care a command API and then get hired by people joining the server

#

works great 10/10 would recommend

visual egret
meager tusk
#

if i had done it on 2019 i would probably have profited quite a bit

heady spear
#

I was just a dev on that server noman ๐Ÿ˜› I got paid for 2.5 years, so it was aight

meager tusk
#

was it 2019 when the game blew up

#

or 2020 with pewdiepie

peak ginkgo
#

too long ago

meager tusk
#

fuck last year fucked me up

peak ginkgo
#

I'm thriving off the rebirth of Minecraft

left swift
#

Did they ever finish it

worn ember
#

bruh, 2012-2015 were the mc glory days

peak ginkgo
#

Bought a plane ticket to California because I thought it would be funny.

meager tusk
peak ginkgo
#

@worn ember I miss people getting cancelled and exposed every week

meager tusk
#

remember that lionmaker guy

worn ember
#

i dont

meager tusk
#

2015 was nuts for minecraft

heady spear
#

@upper flicker lurking smh

meager tusk
#

pedos being exposed left and right

peak ginkgo
#

if only i was good at anything back theb

heady spear
#

type it out hoe

worn ember
#

i made like 2.5k in half a year from modded mc

meager tusk
#

it was great

visual egret
heady spear
#

I know you want to

upper flicker
#

Iโ€™m here far more often than I want to be

visual egret
#

hi

meager tusk
upper flicker
#

Usually not in general proper though

woven otter
#

minecraft is such a weird game that generally people think that it's for kids

left swift
#

Z misses us

worn ember
#

it really is the modding that keeps the players interested

meager tusk
#

yeah

visual egret
heady spear
#

Z is such a paper simp

warm anchor
heady spear
#

it's embarrassing

meager tusk
#

single player minecraft would die off quick, so would just vanilla multiplayer

twin lagoon
#

idriz clappywappy

meager tusk
#

hypixel with their 113 thousand players Sadge

#

hi michale PES_Heart

woven otter
meager tusk
#

youtube spiderman videos

left swift
#

Flavored vapes

warm anchor
#

Yes many โ€œkidโ€ movie

meager tusk
#

kinder eggs are great

#

not a word from you on kinder eggs ded

twin lagoon
#

kinder eggs ameownom

wide chasm
#

kinder eggs are great

meager tusk
worn ember
#

they're banned in the US cuz kids are so stupid there they eat the toys too

twin lagoon
#

natural selection tbh

woven otter
#

or bucky balls

twin lagoon
#

.g bucky balls

worn ember
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

meager tusk
#

yea thats natural selection tbf

limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
#

oh those

wide chasm
#

You're not supposed to eat that part? /s

visual egret
#

kinder eggs are the best but ive grown up since then

worn ember
#

camel toe's

twin lagoon
#

Buckyballs may alo refer to: Truncated icosahedron, the geometric structure of the C60 carbon buckminster fullerenemolecule

#

thank you buckyballs

#

very cool

meager tusk
#

Ok

#

Shut up thinking emoji man

twin lagoon
#

idriz ur like 12 shut up

left swift
spiral robin
twin lagoon
#

babyrage indeed

meager tusk
#

I'm a whole 4 years older

#

dont babyrage me

#

fuck

#

not here too

twin lagoon
#

good job aber

spiral robin
#

Mikeahl and diriz cute

worn ember
meager tusk
#

its happening again

left swift
#

Ptsd

twin lagoon
#

he can't escape

spiral robin
meager tusk
#

that fucking emote follows me everywhere i go

spiral robin
#

You seem to create environments where it suits

twin lagoon
spiral robin
meager tusk
#

Ok

left swift
#

Just dont babyrage

spiral robin
#

Michael I went to the eye doctor last week and they had the embody chair in the waiting room

#

It was amazing

twin lagoon
#

h o t

#

good eye doctor

meager tusk
#

Ok Michael

dusk drift
#

discord dying

#

at least in dms

heady spear
#

yay

#

finally

zealous wedge
#

pls delet discord

#

all of it

left swift
#

Delete zml

zealous wedge
#

sure

heady spear
#

no

#

wtf

#

@zealous wedge stop

zealous wedge
#

ur cute city :3

heady spear
#

ur dum for not thinking ur the coolest

left swift
cedar spade
#

hi zml

zealous wedge
#

hi md

cedar spade
#

insert conversation here

visual egret
#

insert end of conversation here

heady spear
#

ok ok it's time boys

visual egret
#

what now

heady spear
#

hv is moving to cloud

#

my first cloud based plugin incoming

zealous wedge
#

yay you're actually doing it

mental meadow
#

yay

visual egret
#

what is hv

mental meadow
#

zml when configurate yml comments? hypershy

zealous wedge
#

hm I think I will go for a walk then mess with cloud fabric

#

adds 1 day to the counter

#

auwura

mental meadow
#

what is the counter now? ๐Ÿ˜„

zealous wedge
#

idk I can't count

cedar spade
#

zml cloud fabric when

meager tusk
#

Ooh, when are we getting configurate yaml comments?

zealous wedge
#

the PR for cloud works lol

heady spear
#

I wanna go for a walk too but it's very dark outside D:

zealous wedge
#

just has no argument types

#

it's still light here!

cedar spade
#

let me rephrase

heady spear
#

I want ALL the argument types so I can make great hacked clients

cedar spade
#

"zml cloud fabric when"

zealous wedge
#

yes

meager tusk
#

I would go for a walk but I'm exposed to the virus.

left swift
meager tusk
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bro I live on the north pole and the sun goes away half the year

zealous wedge
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i want to look at the fabric client commands api to be able to support that too

meager tusk
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very funny brocc

cedar spade
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smh

heady spear
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the sun set at 3pm today

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cool cool

left swift
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Invent a light source that can replace the sun

cedar spade
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@waxen panther gn

meager tusk
waxen panther
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i literally

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just woke up

meager tusk
left swift
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City said north pole

spiral robin
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Brocco broccoHug

mental meadow
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good morning brocc โค๏ธ โค๏ธ โค๏ธ