WASM & Rust in a flight sim
#general
worn ember
yes every rust programmer should get a warning
visual egret
could someone walk me through setting this up properly next time?
twin lagoon
setup what
visual egret
just a proper mc network
mossy vessel
wraith trail
- don't run it all off of a pi
coarse lily
If you want a "network" that isn't just for testing you're going to want something better than a raspberry pi.
visual egret
ok will do
coarse lily
If you only have a pi at your disposal you want to use a USB drive and a UPS to avoid corruption, and keep it lightweight so you can actually use it.
And yeah. Debian++
wraith trail
also use velocity
coarse lily
Don't use velocity.
Because you don't need velocity.
Because you shouldn't run more than one instance on a pi.
wraith trail
that went with my step 1
coarse lily
Oh right.
visual egret
yeah ive been working on a velocity setup
wraith trail
on your pi‽
visual egret
on my pc
coarse lily
A pi is good for tinkering and getting used to settings and config stuff. But it's just not the right hardware for running that kind of thing.
Minecraft is inherently resource intensive.
If you had a cluster of pis maybe.
But that still doesn't make sense.
visual egret
holdup i had another laptop
coarse lily
Because you can usually find old server hardware for less money than the cost of 3x pis.
wraith trail
depending on where you live you can get very cheap older enterprise gear
visual egret
London
wraith trail
oh no idea about it there
visual egret
also "cheap" and "enteprise" dont combine into "budget"
wraith trail
I mean cheap
visual egret
ah cheap
visual egret
ok that seems ok
worn ember
talking about optimized resource usage
wraith trail
Does not make sense for enterprises to run them anymore because they 1. use more in energy than they are worth and 2. out of support
but, as you are 12, doubt you pay for electricity
golden gust
It's old junk, but, large companies will often throw stuff out fast to keep stuff in a warrenty period or with vendor support, etc
So, gear is generally a few years old, but, it's not too bad of a deal often
wraith trail
it's old junk, but better than a pi
visual egret
i dont need to worry about that ^
worn ember
cuz its cheap
visual egret
i get about 6ms ping to speedtest servers
golden gust
because it's a cheap budget assed device
visual egret
NO
golden gust
Which, is like, you know, literally it's downfall...
wraith trail
they are $30
coarse lily
Yeah you can often find 5-10 year old boxes that are PLENTY fast for $100-$200
visual egret
they are like £60 for the most expensive ones
golden gust
one time cost vs ongoing cost
wraith trail
Especially for kids who don't pay for electricity/internet and have a lot of free time, it makes complete sense
visual egret
how about: velocity running on the pi and servers running everywhere else
wraith trail
just get an 11th gen poweredge or something
coarse lily
how about: velocity running on the pi and servers running everywhere else
I would get a decent box and run velocity on it.
worn ember
coarse lily
You don't want the bottleneck to be on the velocity end.
wraith trail
you can find a ton of used r510s and r710s online for cheap
coarse lily
The pi is already a bottleneck.
worn ember
proxies dont use jack shit for resources tho
visual egret
i dont think ill hit enough players for that to be a bottleneck
worn ember
visual egret
especially since its only a proxy ^^^^^
coarse lily
Sure but if they don't use resource then why run it on a different instance?
visual egret
because i have a pi, might as well use it
coarse lily
You're adding complexity and a second physical instance for no reason.
wraith trail
<:doubt:581332132702584833>
But for a kid, a recurring cost is much more than a one time cost.
wraith trail
especially as you have more free time, and thus your time is worth less
visual egret
wait i just realised im dumb
chrismass is in like 2 days
i still havent done anything about that
lemme find the cheapest optiplex on ebay
actually: any computers for <£90 anyone can reccomend for an mc server
well
i get the hardware
forever
and get to use it for whatever i want
so thats better for me than getting it hosted
wraith trail
although the market in the uk seems pretty bad
warm anchor
In US in certain area you can get super old shit for basically free
Given you have the means to move them lol
golden gust
Yea, over here blows ass
visual egret
cat please
wraith trail
yeah just looking online and there is no good old stuff over ther
golden gust
There aren't too many places in the UK which are really good for datacenters
coarse lily
Help our youth.
coarse lily
I assumed he was just playing with a few friends.
So he doesn't have to worry about a DoS
visual egret
if tcpshield made their geyser thing free
coarse lily
Maybe we're confused about the actual use / goal.
wraith trail
well my nokia is the dev server and my pi is production
coarse lily
"Production" for what?
visual egret
lets run an mc server on an intel compute stick 
coarse lily
Calling something prod makes less sense when you don't have a dev/test/prod infrastructure and/or workflow and it's just you and you're using it for random stuff for yourself.
If you're hosting a live website and you're selling stuff then yeah you could call it prod in the context of it being deployed or being updated but you wouldn't call it "production" to people you don't work with.
And if you're doing something important and/or selling stuff then you don't want to be doing it on your home network on a raspberry pi.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
visual egret
well i found something, cant figure out if its good: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-2950-Single-Dual-Quad-Core-2U-Server-4GB-8GB-16GB-RAM-2-5-Drives-/184332960821?var=
coarse lily
That's alright but a few things.
- It doesn't look like it actually has an RAM, so skip that.
- An actual rackmount server like that is going to sound like a fucking jet engine in your house.
Look for a workstation desktop instead if it'll be in your room.
I mean they are seriously loud.
Like can't hear the person standing next to you loud sometimes.
And that'll draw a shitton of power.
coarse lily
Yikes
unkempt drift
yikes that link tho
coarse lily
That's better than a pi
But if you're spending money try to buy something from someone that actually lists the CPU.
Not just "i3"
And I'd opt more for an older i7 than an i3.
4GB or 8GB - (You choose)
Who would choose less?
oskar have you checked gumtree?
visual egret
never heard of it
visual egret
it looks more for regular consumer stuff
sage pier
someone’s editing mc server logs to frame me for saying racist things. what can i do?
twin lagoon
what the fuck https://owo.whats-th.is/AGEavjU.png
split sigil
someone’s editing mc server logs to frame me for saying racist things. what can ...
give them your logs ig?
olive marlin
someone’s editing mc server logs to frame me for saying racist things. what can ...
You can check your client logs?
coarse lily
oskar a desktop or workstation is fine.
sage pier
idk how
split sigil
or sha256 it
split sigil
they cant really prove that you did it
golden gust
I mean, it's a text file
split sigil
unless you signed (digitally) it
twin lagoon
someone’s editing mc server logs to frame me for saying racist things. what can ...
ignore it
lol
golden gust
you can edit text files to say whatever the heck you want
olive marlin
Oskar I bought old, mini-pc. Server great as a server for me.
visual egret
yeah i know, just nobody is out there selling a pc for less than £200
golden gust
and, yea, client itself also has logs, in the logs folder somwhere
Depends on your OS
split sigil
<directory>/logs/YYYY-MM-DD-<number>.log.gz
golden gust
It's in the logs folder in the folder where your saves/resource packs go
olive marlin
Easiest would be to probably open resource pack folder from the game and then check around there.
split sigil
about how many players will 10700k @ 5.2ghz handle
sage pier
ok i’ll try use client logs
visual egret
my budget is about £70
coarse lily
And it was listed 21 days ago so if it's still available they might take less.
Can't hurt to ask.
split sigil
my budget is about £70
thats just not going to work
visual egret
yeah thats what im feeling
split sigil
pis start lagging at 3 ppl
visual egret
yeah i started dropping tps at that amount
split sigil
old macbook handles like 7 players
i havent tested 10700k yet
but probs a lot better
olive marlin
oskar - search for an old laptop with broken screen.
split sigil
yes but how are you going to ssh into it if the screen is broken
olive marlin
You'll get it a lot cheaper than with working screen, and you don't need it for a server.
split sigil
its not enabled by default
visual egret
yes but how are you going to ssh into it if the screen is broken
2nd monitor
olive marlin
For first time setup, you connect external monitor.
split sigil
yea works i guess
olive marlin
Later you can ssh into it.
visual egret
actually my other laptop the i3 one is without a working screen
this looks okay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DELL-OPTIPLEX-380-2-93GHZ-8GB-RAM-240GB-SSD-DVD-WIN10-PRO-DESKTOP-PC/124195358333?hash=item1cea9ec67d:g:4Y0AAOSwWOVexrSB but its running an intel core duo
coarse lily
You just need a faster desktop equivalent. That's a decent box for 35.
visual egret
that seems really good for the price
coarse lily
That's good, too.
You'd want to upgrade the RAM.
But you can do that later.
Might be able to score some RAM for like free.
visual egret
yeah i have some DDR3 laying around from an old PC
coarse lily
If everything wasn't closed I'd say start hanging around PC repair places
visual egret
holdup its on a 30minute bid so lemme ask my parents
coarse lily
What?
visual egret
alright so 30minutes definitely isnt enough time to convince someone
so ill continute looking
coarse lily
Haha keep an eye on it. If no one else buys it then it might be there again.
ashen cliff
Budget should not exceed 2€.
visual egret
although the first one looks good, right?
minor badge
hello ocelot
tribal flicker
Heya I got a duping problem. on 1.16.4 tuinity, people can find "glitched" chunks and break chests or other placeholder containers with and the items will drop but the container will remain
ive pre-generated the whole world
visual egret
Estimated on or before Thu. 31 Dec... looks like "santa" will be a bit late if i choose this
golden gust
can you replicate it on paper?
golden gust
can you replicate it without plugins?
coarse lily
how are you?
I'm alright - trying to do some last minute Christmas planning
minor badge
ooo
I'm planning to make my christmas eve dinner tomorrow
will be.. an experience. especially once I realise how many things I miss in the kitchen
tribal flicker
i am being told its a vanilla mc 1.16.4 glitch 1 second
minor badge
Please update your server and ask in their server if it persists
mossy vessel
Right, christmas eve is already tmrw 👀
visual egret
test it yourself before you go looking for a fix
minor badge
no, that just sounds like some plugin is interfering, or the chunk just won't save
coarse lily
Yeah you need to test that.
coarse lily
Yeah.
You want an i3, i5, or i7.
You don't want a Pentium, Core Duo, or Core 2 Duo
Those are too old.
You can get a 10+ year old i7.
Core Duo is from like 2004.
visual egret
coarse lily
Sure.
I mean that's only 4GB of RAM but it'll still handle a lot more than a raspberry pi.
visual egret
my raspberry pi was 4gb anyway so it should be fine
coarse lily
You can see now why the pi doesn't make sense for a lot of stuff. Old machine: $16. 2-3x faster than raspberry pi for $45.
The Pi is good for lower power stuff or stuff where space and size is a concern.
It's great for what it is.
tribal flicker
Kk i'm getting information that they found a single chunk which you can see the outlines of the blocks
but you can't see the actual blocks
and placing a chest in there will make it easy to dupe in there
i've loaded all chunks with worldborder
maybe it misses a few idk
coarse lily
You need to be able to reproduce it to test it. Find the chunk and see if it loads for you. Or see if they're using vanilla clients. Worldborder CAN miss a few chunks but if the chunk isn't loading that's doesn't mean it isn't pre-generated, just that it isn't being sent to the client for whatever reason.
It sounds like a plugin issue.
peak ginkgo
I'm told Tuinity just released a patch that fixes that.
coarse lily
But I could be wrong. There's no real way to know without testing and reproducing it. They could also be using some dupe glitch and making up a story about the thing.
Or it could be a Tuinity bug and not a paper bug.
Ha. You have a link DeJay?
tribal flicker
wait really dejay
olive marlin
Looking at commit list, doubt it. https://github.com/Spottedleaf/Tuinity/commits/master
Unless it was fixed in Paper a long time ago and Spottedleaf just updated it.
pale hinge
hi, is there any way to get a list of users which have been active/online lately, or users which are the most active lets say for a month
wraith trail
there are plugins that do that
one is called PLAN, not sure if it's any good
it's got a nice web ui though
twin lagoon
@tribal flicker what's the issue
tribal flicker
there's a chunk duping glitch
tribal flicker
but apparently it involves tuinity so thats fantastic
pale hinge
it's got a nice web ui though
oh it looks pretty cool
twin lagoon
no
pale hinge
would it hit my TPS?
twin lagoon
just update
tribal flicker
kk i'll update it, on airplane though
wraith trail
barty has just said it's awful. Listen to him, i've never used it
formal turret
whats wrong with plan?
wraith trail
use tunity/purpur/paper
twin lagoon
tribal flicker
michael do you know what glitch im talking about btw
cunning raft
@static badge
pale hinge
which one do you prefer?
tribal flicker
is this actually actually the problem
twin lagoon
yes
tribal flicker
kk cheers
cunning raft
leaf has been set free
pale hinge
can you suggest any other plugin, i mean
golden gust
leaf is a poo poo head
twin lagoon
leaf sux
wraith trail
no premade solution to do that retroactively, just write a script to look at your logs and find players with most playtime
cosmic raft
cunning raft
he's thinking out his comeback speech
golden gust
inb4 instabunned
viral hornet
Wb leaf
coarse lily
i just want to give some gifts to most active players
You can check logs and last update of their playerdata.
But yeah I don't know of anything that exists to retroactively track that.
golden gust
if you just wanna do it monthy, writing a small ass program to (ab)use the stats files would be trivial
coarse lily
Server playerdata will have timestamps, though.
olive marlin
@pale hinge Long, long time ago for a server I didn't have admin right to, I wrote a simple Discord bot which scraped DiscordSRV channel and generated playtime graphs and shit. Can be done retroactively 🙂
wraith trail
unless you want to deal with the performance issues of plan, it will be trivial to write a script for it
but then no nice web ui
coarse lily
Yeah sounded like they just wanted a list for now.
olive marlin
But you can add automatic, complex filtering to your script if you want to.
mossy vessel
tf is plan
limber knotBOT
wraith trail
web ui that tells you info about playtime/player stats
mossy vessel
looks like grafana at wish
wraith trail
basically
viral hornet
I haven't had any issues with PLAN yet
wraith trail
never used it but mentioned it to siratofficial
golden gust
It is one of those plugins which tends to show up in timings
No idea if it was ever at a level where it was really concerning, but, every little helps™
mossy vessel
I've never used Plan and didn't hear about it in ages, always used grafana 
peak ginkgo
I'm considering changing my name to just Dj irl but then I see things like this
:/
wraith trail
put in a u2800
coarse lily
DJ<null>
worn pasture
that's actually really stupid lol, i hate the idea of name validations
peak ginkgo
My name is now Dj
coarse lily
Yeah.
worn pasture
just let it be an alpha string
peak ginkgo
Good ol zws
coarse lily
Haha nice.
coarse lily
I have two middle names and got signed up for an automated acocunt in a stupid way.
Where they made my name in the account:
coarse lily
Firstname I Lastname
coarse lily
So my second middle initial was the first letter, then space, of my last name.
Like John A B Smith.
"John" "B Smith"
peak ginkgo
LMAO
coarse lily
So I couldn't sign up online.
Had to call and took them two hours to unfuck it.
Name validation is bullshit.
Especially if users aren't based in, you know, the US.
worn pasture
i wonder how people with only a surname make it on the internet
coarse lily
That's rough, too.
coarse lily
Sometimes the double middle fucks things up enough that I try to drop them entirely.
Last name.
peak ginkgo
You can do that?
peak ginkgo
My name is now rock wallaby
coarse lily
At least in the US, you can legally call yourself whatever you want as long as you aren't trying to evade the law.
peak ginkgo
idk I just picked those two words out of my ass
worn pasture
i guess it depends on the legality of the form you're filling out
coarse lily
Yeah I've met some non-typical named folks.
twin lagoon
coarse lily
But yeah when I try to drop the middle names they're like "YOU NEED A MIDDLE NAME"
twin lagoon
is that tcpshield
coarse lily
And when I say I have two they say "YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO"
twin lagoon
i am so smart
coarse lily
Can't win!
peak ginkgo
I just zws'd tcpshield
@coarse lily I legally don't have a middle name and people can't stand that
coarse lily
Yeah
peak ginkgo
Often my middle name on legal forms turns into my suffix
coarse lily
I've had a few things make it "X"
peak ginkgo
Dj Jr I
coarse lily
Ha
peak ginkgo
Or, my personal favorite
They just give me my moms middle name
Which is what my insurance card shows me as
coarse lily
A lot of it is because of people. I mean the systems are busted sometimes, too, but if you have a person who thinks a thing is a certain way they can mess things up.
peak ginkgo
Dj X I Jr
warm anchor
Isn’t middle name some sort of top secret in US 
zealous wedge
middle names are weird
warm anchor
Bank used to use that to verify you lol
coarse lily
We spent 20mins at a gas station once because the clerk had never seen a $50 dollar bill and my friend had to argue it was real legal tender.
And they had to get a manager.
So yeah. People are the problem sometimes. :)
warm anchor
Lmao
peak ginkgo
@twin lagoon If I codename my server on tcpshield can I cahnge it in the future
zealous wedge
at that point just steal the thing lol
warm anchor
Wtf do you live under a rock
peak ginkgo
Or do i just make a new network on tcpshield
twin lagoon
uh
golden gust
God, reminds me of somebody I used to talk to, she transitioned and wanted to change her name, and wanted like a æ in there
peak ginkgo
Fuck yeah
coarse lily
Isn’t middle name some sort of top secret in US <:Krappa:665846295952359434>
Nah, middle name isn't an identifier. Mother's maiden name often is.
golden gust
Took her a few times for it because they didn't know if they could do that
unreal quarry
We spent 20mins at a gas station once because the clerk had never seen a $50 dol...
You should try $2 bills. It's even worse lmao
peak ginkgo
Mother's maiden name often is.
golden gust
But, characters like that in names is just a pita
coarse lily
You should try $2 bills. It's even worse lmao
Haha yeah. WOW THESE ARE SO RARE.
zealous wedge
it's bad enough trying to get a US DMV to understand how to mail a driving record to canada
golden gust
Imagine asking some rando receptionist to have to search for your record
coarse lily
Look at the date. It was issued this year. It's still in circulation.
peak ginkgo
--; DROP TABLE students;
zealous wedge
their systems can't handle post codes
coarse lily
Little Bobby Tables!
warm anchor
Nah, middle name isn't an identifier. Mother's maiden name often is.
My bank can’t decide if I have a middle name or not. Tell me about it
warm anchor
Hahahahahaha
coarse lily
Obviously yeah you'd colloquially call them 471 for short.
That's a good one.
I should change my last name to a hex code.
warm anchor
Gotta be edgiest kid
peak ginkgo
EE82EE
@void void
Name your kid the hex code for violet, pronounced violet
Your new name is ee82ee
coarse lily
I'm leaving that there to show how dumb I am.
peak ginkgo
DeJay Num 1337
coarse lily
ocelotpotpie Hashtag 336699
void void
<@456226577798135808>
> Name your kid the hex code for violet, pronounced viole...
hi dejay
limber knotBOT
imagine paying for a number
void void
haghtag
coarse lily
Hashtag dope
peak ginkgo
I think hashtag is... broad
void void
imagine using IRC in 2020
peak ginkgo
Besides "Num"
coarse lily
I'm broad.
warm anchor
We can bully Robo rn coz he’s the only one in irc
peak ginkgo
ffccff is a really pretty color
unrelated
Just trying to think of a codename for my project
Done
golden gust
I vote that we poop on violets rug
coarse lily
#FFCCFF is a good codename.
golden gust
Just because
golden gust
NEVHAH!
coarse lily
Just trying to think of a codename for my project
But the little server icons aren't FFCCFF
So you should change them or rename it 9933ff
Or maybe #90f
Hard to tell.
warm anchor
Imagine having hashtag on your driver Id
peak ginkgo
I really like codes with repeating subsections bc they can become #fcf
coarse lily
Yeah.
I use a lot of 3 digit codes.
Those 3 bytes matter!
Saving stylesheet sizes, 3 bytes at a time.
peak ginkgo
It's all about how your website compresses
coarse lily
I know anytime someone meets me for the first time they ask about my website compression to gauge whether or not they actually want to be my friend.
peak ginkgo
Unrelated, but I love the-fuck
pnap31629@E3-2288:~$ ufw allow 8080
ERROR: You need to be root to run this script
pnap31629@E3-2288:~$ fuck
sudo ufw allow 8080 [enter/↑/↓/ctrl+c]
Rule added
Rule added (v6)
sudo !!
peak ginkgo
Yes but also fuck
golden gust
fuck was too slow for me last I trued it
twin lagoon
dejay i can sense that you're using pterodactyl
and you should allow 8443 to cloudflare traffic
not 8080
mental meadow
We have gone full circle
warm anchor
~~how’s that extra cancer ~~
potent fossil
twin lagoon
simple 
unreal quarry
what about single letter names? like Z
potent fossil
henlo michale
peak ginkgo
what about single letter names? like Z
Now it's Ze
coarse lily
Haha
mossy vessel
simple 
potent fossil
henlo nmf 
mossy vessel
coarse lily
We have gone full circle
More people should use this.
potent fossil
yeah I'm aware
worn pasture
the world really needs more web frameworks
potent fossil
spring or die
unreal quarry
i just write my sites in html/css/js using notepad 😛 these frameworks confuse the hell outta my boomer head
golden gust
notepad
worn pasture
it's Hikari
worn pasture
well yeah that
unreal quarry
have you heard about vim?
i sent a friend of mine in to try it out. havent seen him since.
golden gust
He is weak!
worn pasture
some say he's still trying to exit to this day
potent fossil
how do you use vim to edit multiple files efficiently, do you literally close the entire program and reopen it for the next file you want
potent fossil
hmmm
coarse lily
how do you use vim to edit multiple files efficiently, do you literally close th...
Yeah this is my problem with vim. I like using command line editors for simple stuff but if you were doing something like messing with a big ass Minecraft plugin then using vim is too narrow of a focus.
golden gust
No
LP does not manage connections
That warning is literally saying that the connection was closed
coarse lily
I'm with you, though, Billy.
I think a lot of the modern framework stuff is way too overly complicated.
unreal quarry
real men arent afraid to use nano, amirite?
golden gust
Something caused the connection between your server and the database server to close
ancient bolt
real non-human humanoids use ed
golden gust
Because the default is based on normal database setups
Well, if you're within the max lifetime, it prooobably wasn't that
wait timeout would be the one relevant there
🤷♂️
slim nymph
new mysql changed that, old was super long, then new mysql went to a lower value
slim nymph
i got bit by that too
iirc i restored the wait time on mysql side
wait_timeout=11720
yeah
dont need mysql managing that
worn pasture
relevant github issue
https://github.com/brettwooldridge/HikariCP/issues/1328
golden gust
if everything is set, something killed the connection, it's hard to say what but that's not an LP thing, or a hikari thing 'lest there is some huge bug we've not heard about
slim nymph
its mysql killing unused connections
if your pool is 8, but you only use the first 6, those last 2 sit unused for X time, they get closed, hikari doesnt know it properly, then tries to use them, and error
now hikari recovers fine, just annoying logs
but i decided to restore the wait timeout back to the original time because theres no value in mysql closing them early
thats a higher amount
its the old default iirc
ok well use 28800 then lol
and your having issues still?
is your hikari at an even higher value then
though i may of had a slightly diff issue, i dont remember "max lifetime"
lol the ticket says hikari just hides it in 3.3.0+
so are you on something older?
worn pasture
i'm checking what LP uses now
slim nymph
though the replies insist its still showing yet the maintainers keep saying it shouldnt be
slim nymph
whats hikaris max wait set to
worn pasture
latest is .65
i know luck updated the dependencies a while ago but idk if that was before or after your version, you could try updating
nah bruh
Luck hardly ever updates the Spigot resource lol
coarse lily
Protest?
worn pasture
though you may also want to remove the luckperms/libs folder and let it regenerate
slim nymph
should just switch spigot to an external link instead
coarse lily
^
worn pasture
should just switch spigot to an external link instead
not a bad idea, i'll float that by him haha
slim nymph
man i just caught up on his dark materials. this shows getting so fucking deep and even better
so happy this story got ressurrected from the grave in tv form
worn pasture
it's just that updates are so frequent it would be horrific to try and keep the resource pages up to date all the time
mental meadow
Issue with external links on Spigot is that CF often fucks the redirects up
worn pasture
man i just caught up on his dark materials. this shows getting so fucking deep a...
i keep meaning to watch that, heard a lot of good things
slim nymph
its amazing
if you enjoyed the movie goldencompass, its the same thing, just redid closer to the book and darker
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385752/
worn pasture
oh zrips is the cmi guy
lol that makes a lot of sense
gotta promote that overpriced garbage
potent fossil
SAME
I was just typing that
They wouldn't let me watch it because it was "about killing god"
worn pasture
dayum, sounds like my kinda movie
slim nymph
lol what
potent fossil
don't ask me, i was just the kid in the situation
slim nymph
i think i recall a christianity boycott, but no its nothing like that
just christians attacked it because they have "demons"
but these demons are usually cute animal pets
potent fossil
but I recall exactly what I heard my grandma tell my mom: "you can't let the kids watch that, it's the work of the antichrist"
so we never watched it
slim nymph
anti christians more plausible than killing a god lol
some christians are silly with that stuff
"gasp they use the word demon in a positive way!"
thats ultimately why christians got upset with it
potent fossil
lol
viral hornet
this annoys me too lmao
I get the whole dev builds
But luck doesn't update Spigot near enough xD
potent fossil
Yeah I didn't know about that either. I would expect the spigot page to be updated
worn pasture
lol so 2 years ago LP was using Hikari 3.3.1 so what i said before probably won't help you barty
worn pasture
Yeah I didn't know about that either. I would expect the spigot page to be updat...
lucko is busy guy and we often have to remind him to update spigot lol
potent fossil
lol
coarse lily
Hey Camm
viral hornet
How's it going ocelot? 
potent fossil
just change the spigot link to external lol
worn pasture
but you also need to remember that LP is on many platforms so updating all the resource pages can be tedious i guess
worn pasture
just change the spigot link to external lol
but how would you know when an update happens?
potent fossil
we won't know anyway now bc he doesnt update the spigot page
mental meadow
You can still put updates
mental meadow
But that way users always get the latest version
worn pasture
yeah
mental meadow
But, external links are often a bit broken bc of CF, at least for me
worn pasture
just turn on notifications for #508800036344299550 if you want updates haha
worn pasture
what a pedantic pansy
twin lagoon
turbo 
worn pasture
golden gust
He came in here other month or something asking for aikar too
worn pasture
lmao pretty sure this guy was banned
fallen wren
I cant stand kangaroo
spiral robin
spring mango
Rare moments of my server not lagging
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twin lagoon
what the fuck is tabtps
cunning raft
i assume tps in tab
worn pasture
yet another tps plugin
golden gust
is it wrong that everytime I see somebody use "k" in discord
I wanna make a bot which kicks people who just reply with "k"
potent fossil
didn't you know that the more performance related plugins you have the better your server performs michale?
spring mango
Tps logging plugin in the tab
mental meadow
I wanna make a bot which kicks people who just reply with "k"
k
twin lagoon
aurora go sleep
warm anchor
I think server booster was the best performance boost plugin guys
worn pasture
I wanna make a bot which kicks people who just reply with "k"
k
formal turret
what a pedantic pansy
could be one of those people that don't want to support patreon
golden gust
I will literally set you people on fire
mental meadow
I'm trying Michael :c
twin lagoon
mental meadow
Pls do I'm cold
worn pasture
i should really sleep too lol
golden gust
Yea, u shud
wraith trail
as you are saying this got the first k response in #paper-help
golden gust
fuq of
warm anchor
Who’s 8 PM est gang here?
cunning raft
I wanna make a bot which kicks people who just reply with "k"
i say it to the people who use paper general as their internal thought process
i'm doing a service
mental meadow
I'm always tired but can't sleep
fallen wren
What's so bad about saying k
warm anchor
It’s a lazy answer
golden gust
Somebody spent their time to give you an answer to something
warm anchor
Like you can’t even type ok properly
golden gust
You couldn't be assed to type more than a single character
literally "kk" is 1000x better to me than just "k"
worn pasture
how neat is potassium
fallen wren
Isn't ok just as easy
warm anchor
Kk is fine but one more k won’t be good
mental meadow
Oh yeah my doc checked my vitamin d3 levels and they are supposed to be like 30-60 ng/mL and mine was like not detectable (<4) - i think that explains why I'm so tired and depressed lol
mental meadow
That too
worn pasture
Oh yeah my doc checked my vitamin d3 levels and they are supposed to be like 30-...
is that what my problem is
fallen wren
Must be some kind of etiquette I guess
warm anchor
Oh yeah my doc checked my vitamin d3 levels and they are supposed to be like 30-...
Are you from NA? Or northern part. Almost everyone need Vitimin D or not getting enough coz of little sunlight
worn pasture
ya aint getting enough D
mental meadow
Yeah especially in the winter
I'm from austria
fallen wren
Drink more milk
mental meadow
Might also be because I never leave my room
warm anchor
Taking supplements help and you should bring it up to your doctor on yearly checkout yesh.
So they can help you monitor it
mental meadow
Yeah they are doing that now lol
worn pasture
getting the right nutrition can be exhausting
especially when you're already in that state
vicious cycle
mental meadow
Yeah
spiral robin
eat more nutrigrain bars
unreal quarry
getting the right nutrition can be exhausting
ikr
bites into a slim jim
mental meadow
Now I have to take like 7 pills every day, i feel old, like Billy
unreal quarry
you're only as old as you feel ^_^
mental meadow
Oh God
unreal quarry
its funny, growing up i always wanted to be older faster. then there came a spot i was like, ok this shit needs to stop. now i'm 36 and like wtf, where are the brakes
golden gust
It's the grass over on the other side of the fence
worn pasture
haha, staaaahp
golden gust
you wanna be older coz then you get the ability to do all the cool shit
warm anchor
It’s all fun an game until you wake up in the morning and your back hurts and that’s a shitty way to start your day. Then imagine being like that everyday
mental meadow
Never had that lol
I just didn't plan on living longer than like 17 anyways
golden gust
you just didn't see all the stuff you gotta do to be able to do all that cool shit
slim nymph
Pls do I'm cold
i have to run space heater because im cold but wifes upstairs so its warmer there and if i turn heat up she roasts ; ;
worn pasture
yeah
viral hornet
why
worn pasture
i tried
unreal quarry
i have to run space heater because im cold but wifes upstairs so its warmer ther...
1st world problems :3
mental meadow
Realistically I could close the window but I like it when the room is cold and your under your nice warm blanket
Just my hands are freezing off
viral hornet
I'll come cuddle you turbo
warm anchor
Wear hand socks
viral hornet
we'll nap together
mental meadow
It's like 0C outside
slim nymph
Oh yeah my doc checked my vitamin d3 levels and they are supposed to be like 30-...
with the strong findings with vit d and covid, def wanna get that up.
mental meadow
Wear hand socks
They are called hand shoes
worn pasture
I'll come cuddle you turbo
pls
warm anchor
They are called hand shoes
We maybe living in different worlds
worn pasture
🥺
mental meadow
Yahoo
warm anchor
Nice
vestal jasper
"Gamers upset that they can't keep 2077 after refunding it"
????????????????????????????????????????????????????
viral hornet
Gotta get that Vitamin 🇩
worn pasture
with the strong findings with vit d and covid, def wanna get that up.
get the D up, you say?
worn pasture
"Gamers upset that they can't keep 2077 after refunding it"
???????????????????...
/r/choosingbeggars
mental meadow
Do you mean I got rid of the wrong D?
viral hornet
Hahaha
warm anchor
"Gamers upset that they can't keep 2077 after refunding it"
???????????????????...
I believe they would wipe your memory about the game if they could in the future
slim nymph
i wonder how many are gonna beat cyberpunk then return it
warm anchor
Lol game play is that short??
vestal jasper
that's literally why my store doesn't do refunds for disc based media
warm anchor
Or they relaxed the return period?
worn pasture
isn't there a time limit on when you can get the refund?
slim nymph
im not refunding mine even though im not playing it, ill just wait until XSX version anyways
mental meadow
I just saw that someone got the sex% speedrun WR in like 10 minutes
worn pasture
I just saw that someone got the sex% speedrun WR in like 10 minutes
10 minutes holy
vestal jasper
I'm also glad I do what I usually do with games, wait a few months before even buying it
warm anchor
It’s only bad if you are on outdated console iirc
vestal jasper
Because they really did no man's sky the game lol
worn pasture
it really isn't, people just love to scream
slim nymph
well it is rough for base prev gen consoles, its fine for next gen, just meh on graphics
worn pasture
the PC version is great
slim nymph
on super high end hw sure
warm anchor
it really isn't, people just love to scream
It’s bad on old gen. So bad they even have a press meeting
slim nymph
moderate spec pc is gonna be just like a console lol
vestal jasper
it's not shit by any means but it underdelivers on promises, runs like shit, and has bugs.
that being said, I play Bethesda games religiously so I'm stockholm syndromed into tolerating this.
twin lagoon
it's not too bad on pc
warm anchor
Michael has a decent pc though?
twin lagoon
it runs reasonably well on lower end pcs
warm anchor
There’s graphic heavy option that cannot be turned off
spare venture
i've seen the following:
- ai is dumber than dumb
- police just spawn behind you because there's no such thing as police chases
- shooting water doesn't make splash
- throwing grenade into water doesn't make splash
- shooting tires doesn't pop them or do anything
_ consoles are fukt
warm anchor
That one was one of the PC issue
worn pasture
there is a lot to be desired content wise but the game runs pretty well for most of the part, there are defintely far worse games
twin lagoon
@mental meadow s l e e p
mental meadow
Gamers: We want the game now!
Cdpr: but it's not finished
Gamers: we want it now!
Releases game with bugs
Surprised pikachu.png
slim nymph
"lower end pc", isnt the base reqs to run it on meh graphics like a 1080
viral hornet
michael 
warm anchor
Way too low
mental meadow
If the delay it there's probably a reason for it
slim nymph
i saw people say the recommended reqs were really the min for pc
mossy vessel
dum dum
vestal jasper
Almost like they want people to buy games they can’t run smoothly
I mean, this is ok, given that there are graphics settings which are acceptable for when the game's released which perform well
warm anchor
That’s like those people running Minecraft on pi ngl
vestal jasper
Crysis, for example, had graphics settings which were impossible to render at decent FPS with the hardware at the time
coarse lily
Aikar I managed to score an Xbox Series X.
slim nymph
nice
coarse lily
Haven't tried Cyberpunk yet, though
coarse lily
Ha
slim nymph
yeah it feels like GTA level npc graphics
potent fossil
i remember when my 1080 was new and hot shit :(
vestal jasper
easier to just wait and see
warm anchor
i remember when my 1080 was new and hot shit :(
Don’t feel bad 1060 still the highest mid range according to steam hardware survey
slim nymph
It’s ALMOST like buying game on launch nowadays is always a bad idea
well Ubi must of put their A Team on Fenyx rising, cause they fucking killed it with this.
warm anchor
well Ubi must of put their A Team on Fenyx rising, cause they fucking killed it ...
Real? I will have to try then.
worn pasture
the only company i trust to make a decent game these days is blizzard
warm anchor
Pretty hot ngl
warm anchor
I will give it a try this week then. Holiday 
spring mango
"Only a small percentage of people are subscribed (shows unclear stats). It's free and you can always unsubscribe later" -literally every minecraft youtuber.
warm anchor
I am still kinda mad they fucked up division 2 so bad
warm anchor
"Only a small percentage of people are subscribed (shows unclear stats). It's fr...
It’s just a trend. One see others so that and they all started saying it
spring mango
dream sigh
slim nymph
its a big puzzle and action game
warm anchor
Yea big trust issue with them here as well
slim nymph
gotta solve some good puzzles that get you thinking, and creativity to think outside of the box
gray gust
Hi guys, i have a "weird" question about one thing on windows 10, i don't where can i ask this, so can i try it here?
mental meadow
Watch Dogs legion was nice
worn pasture
Hi guys, i have a "weird" question about one thing on windows 10, i don't where ...
just ask lol
mental meadow
Don't ask to ask
I played all three and I gotta say they really improved it
But I always liked the concept
gray gust
Ok xD, so... i was trying to play a game and.. i downloaded it and there was a bat file with "Powershell.exe add-appxpackage appxManifest.xml -register pause", i opened it, but i want to "reverse" this command, what can i do?
coarse lily
"Reverse"?
mental meadow
Try switching the add to remove maybe
gray gust
"Reverse"?
I want to remove that appxmanifest.xml
gray gust
Try switching the add to remove maybe
Already tried
mental meadow
.g powershell remove appxpackage
limber knotBOT
gray gust
(DiscordBot) https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/appx/remove-appx...
I saw that, but what i did, didn't work
potent fossil
what is the content of appxManifest.xml
wraith trail
you have to open the xml and find the package name if I understand correctly
potent fossil
yes
gray gust
what is the content of appxManifest.xml
Idk (?) it's a file
potent fossil
open it
mental meadow
You can open it with an editor
potent fossil
in a text editor and paste it to http://paste.gg
wraith trail
with notepad++ or something, and find something that looks like package1_1.0.0.0_neutral__8wekyb3d8bbwe
and then do Remove-AppxPackage -Package "whatever"
worn pasture
Idk (?) it's a file
wow
coarse lily
No, edit the .bat file
potent fossil
yeah i dont see a package name in here
gray gust
Ok, now?
wraith trail
Remove-AppxPackage -Package "whatever"
potent fossil
Copy that thing and do powershell.exe Remove-AppxPackage -Package <thing>
wraith trail
replace whatever with the package name
potent fossil
The Microsoft.Maine_1.5.4.0_x64_blablablabla
gray gust
Ok, done, I won't trust weird links anymore xD Ty everyone
Btw someone knows what was that?
potent fossil
looks like some app from the windows store
potent fossil
i have no idea but this is all i can find for Microsoft.Maine https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/maine/8d6kgwxn3dc8?activetab=pivot%3Aoverviewtab
appears to be a movie with hololens support
idk
anyway whatever
gray gust
What ahahah
potent fossil
or this https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/grounded-game-preview/9pjthrnvh62h?activetab=pivot:overviewtab
wraith trail
if it's being installed that way- it's probably not in the microsoft store. All it means is it's an appx package.
potent fossil
im not a big windows user but i thought appx packages are colloquially called windows store packages
as thats where they are published
ofc you can install them manually w/ PS
gray gust
or this https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/grounded-game-preview/9pjthrnvh62h?act...
Yeah, i saw this
When i edited the manifest there was something with "Grounded", maybe its this
cosmic raft
ugh, this is hell
gray gust
?
gray gust
Ah, ahahaha
spiral robin
kash 
spiral robin
We were going to release a new update today but one of our developers had an urgent medical thing and isn't available for a while :(
golden gust
excuses!
spiral robin
lol
Probably will be boxing day or the 27 @potent fossil, he expects a really quick recovery
potent fossil
wow this is very inconvenient, i would like to speak to the manager
fr tho hope he gets better
cosmic raft
@potent fossil
potent fossil
how does hair get like that though
are they wearing something in their hair to push it up like that
coarse lily
Well the third one gets that way through Photoshop I think.
cosmic raft
I am definitely in funland tonight
import java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture;
import java.util.concurrent.CompletionStage;
import java.util.concurrent.Future;
import java.util.concurrent.ScheduledExecutorService;
import java.util.concurrent.TimeUnit;
import java.util.concurrent.atomic.AtomicBoolean;
import java.util.concurrent.atomic.AtomicReference;
what the fk are you doing kash
cosmic raft
grumbling
golden gust
potent fossil
enjoy
spiral robin
lmfao "c"
vestal jasper
Man I fucking love when customers ask to see the manager when I can't instantly locate an item for them /s
fallen oracle
😂
vestal jasper
It's even more fun when it's in housewares.
I'm the housewares lead.
If I can't find it, noone can.
Tbh at that point I just say we don't have it and move on lol
fallen oracle
Do you ever go check in the back knowing you don't have it just to make the customer feel better?
formal turret
that's when you show them the inventory device that says there are none xd
vestal jasper
Do you ever go check in the back knowing you don't have it just to make the cust...
a couple times
We universally instantly reply "No, everything we have stock of has an item on the floor."
spiral robin
vic 
vestal jasper
99% of the time, if you say it confidently, the customer accepts it as an answer.
The other two times I walked into the back, waited 30 seconds, walked out and said "yah nope"
vestal jasper
that's when you show them the inventory device that says there are none xd
Problem is that isn't reliable.
If another customer has the item in their cart but hasn't purchased it yet, the inventory still says "1"
If someone decided to steal one, it's been returned but not processed, etc
formal turret
well i mean if it said 1 i'd show them and tell them that too
vestal jasper
true
formal turret
and they always seemed to be happy with that answer
vestal jasper
what's the math term for average error deviation
formal turret
there were a few times i knew we'd have something in the back so i'd just offer to go back there and take a look
vestal jasper
yeah same, batteries that's common
formal turret
i liked working retail tbh it was pretty fun lol
formal turret
the pay was shit and once the good managers got fired it wasn't fun anymore
vestal jasper
"hey I didn't see this battery in stock but there's a UPL"
i'll check the back for these requests 100% of the time despite the fact that the time investment isn't worth finding s $1 item lmao
spiral robin
luckily only 3 shifts left then im done
formal turret
but if you get people who you enjoy working with i found it really fun
vestal jasper
but I care about making customers happy so I do it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah I have a love/hate relationship with retail.
I tolerate it.
formal turret
are you customer service aber?
spiral robin
sort of
i have two jobs within 1 company
part time iphone tech and part time sales floor, together is about 40 hours a week
formal turret
i only ever had 1 customer in 1.5 years get annoyed with me and that was just because I misunderstood what he wanted
but i wasn't CS sooo
spiral robin
dont take that for granted
formal turret
i know the CS people had way more angry customers
vestal jasper
When my position was to make shelves look nice, it was pretty chill most of the time.
But you get holidays where you're spending entire shifts just putting items away on top of making shelves look nice, and never managing to get either task done.
Or the cashier gets fired for whatever reason, and you have to be the standin cashier for 4 months...
spiral robin
yike
formal turret
my favorite thing to do was to stock shelves lol and make the department look nice
fallen oracle
I like reading r/IDontWorkHereLady
vestal jasper
Yeah that was pretty much the position.
I liked the position.
I didn't like the times I did other positions, but still got the same base pay.
formal turret
i just never did the other things lol
like, you're not paying me to be a cashier, so i'm not going up there
never got called out on it
vestal jasper
I'd get the shit beat out of me if I refused to cashier when told
formal turret
idk why other people were willing to do it, like that wasn't the position you were hired for so why you goin up there
vestal jasper
my ASM is a terrifying person
coarse lily
I don't miss working retail.
But when you don't have to do it then it can be fun for a bit.
Ran a register for a few hours last year for a friend's thing and it was entertaining.
formal turret
my ASM got demoted to become my direct manager, they fired my manager, an entire department quit and they tried merging another department into ours
vestal jasper
ima be real, the few shifts of garden center I had were probably the most fun i've had
formal turret
so i yeeted myself out of there before i had to work in 3 departments that covered the entire front to back of the store on one side for the same amount of money lol
i went back in like 2 months later and they still hadn't hired anyone for the department that quit lol
vestal jasper
During the summer we have cashiers outside in garden center, people watering plants, moving pallets, and just answering gardening questions
top level chill ngl
formal turret
sounds fun
jagged dagger
formal turret
uhuh
cosmic raft
ffs
spiral robin
yes
potent fossil
what's wrong kash
speak your mind
also aber i set up recaptcha on my nameless site but used v3 keys and they i couldnt login to nameless at all
not even admin
so i had to go db spelunking
and do an update call manually
to use v2 keys 
spiral robin
rookie mistake