and then v² = 2gh
#general
untold copper
heady spear
mgh = 1/2 mv² <=> gh = 1/2 v^2 <=> v = sqrt(2gh)
void void
wow math nerd
limpid comet
void void
go back into your dark cave
limpid comet
no it was megabits
waxen panther
heady spear
am very smart someone hire me to engineer ur thingies
untold copper
then uh √2x10x0.1
heady spear
doesn't matter what thingies
untold copper
came out to be approx 1.4m/s
limpid comet
probably just gonna put it onto ethernet, my laptop has a decent enough connection
waxen panther
buy a switch smh
limpid comet
n mode?
waxen panther
lets not !
void void
fuck i don't know exact terminology to explain what that exactly means
limpid comet
ok well either way I'm getting 2 megabytes a second or 5
wait wtf it says 300 mbps though
limber knotBOT
ya that's n, but that could be also due to dual channel stuff
I can't remember all the weirdness of wifi
void void
how are you setting up the ap rn?
create_ap script takes this flag: --ieee80211n
try it
limpid comet
well, I used create_ap for the ap
void void
you may need other flags as well
limpid comet
but i am using WPA supplicang rn to try connecting to the internet with it
void void
well try adding that flag and see how fast it'll work then
void void
pkill wpa_supplicant
limpid comet
yep ty
void void
though you don't need to kill it explicitly to reconfigure your ap lol
it'll reconnect itself
by itself*
limpid comet
ok im on pognet
void void
ok im on pognet
so how is it right now
heady spear
I’ll go tomorrow!!! It’s a bit late now and there’ll be people there in which case I would have gone home anyway and I feel poopy soooo
Look at this funny Facebook meme
It is very accurate
waxen panther
facebook moment
heady spear
My engineering mechanics teacher said it’s impossible to have online lectures and then gave us recordings of him playing with toilet paper
limpid comet
lol yeah with the flag you used it's literally unusable
without the flag it's still 20Mbps but at least it's useable
void void
wdym unusable
packet loss?
drops connection?
ig it boils down to the hardware being shit
limpid comet
not sure, i just can't connect to any website or something
yeah
im not too worried about it lol
yeah on 5g my laptop gets 300Mbps so we're good
untold copper
Use firefox, they said.
It'll be fine, they said.
limpid comet
?
waxen panther
?
void void
5ghz?
limpid comet
yes
void void
that hardware? damn
void void
Is there a way someone uses irc on my discord server without me setting anything up? 
i c
waxen panther
no
void void
Tf is that
void void
first time using tabs huh?
or what
Some bot that isn’t even on my server sent a message and it’s irc because i cannot tap on their profiles
waxen panther
the only thing wrong is the mf video ur watching
limpid comet
are you talkig about webhooks
void void
that's very likely a webhook
waxen panther
server settings -> intergrations
yes it's been closed for ages afaik
essential travel is still allowed
waxen panther
pog
void void
imagine not using depot
limpid comet
is that ur own instance
waxen panther
yes
void void
do one thing and do it well?
waxen panther
yes
limpid comet
nexus has docker which is pog
waxen panther
i only want maven lol
void void
nexus does everything and it's bloat
limpid comet
ig
waxen panther
you need like 2 gb ram to run nexus
void void
.g harbor registry
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://goharbor.io/
waxen panther
im running reposilite on literally 32mb 
void void
this works a lot better for docker containers imo
limpid comet
does it also take up like 12gb of ram
void void
nah
limpid comet
Concourse looks hype tbh
void void
also jfc how much better games run with proton if i enabled shader pre-caching
no more random lagspikes mid game
void void
are you talkig about webhooks
Nope
It's not a webhook
0fps for >5s mid fight in multiplayer, getting torn apart by 3 bandits in borderlands 2 
and that shit's gone now
eh
i run bl2 on proton
because gearbox shitheads won't update linux version anymore so i can't play with others
.g steam proton
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.protondb.com/
void void
long story short runs windows games on linux; translation layer
warm anchor
nice to see dota still high up on that list.
void void
directx->vulkan translation layer has few performance hits as well
and fps spikes are one of them because of online shader compiling
or some stuff like that
warm anchor
It is only bad if you dont have newer PC
same thing goes to console
it runs like shit in older one
void void
and fps spikes are one of them because of online shader compiling
rn it runs kinda ok tbh
warm anchor
wow that's bad
I think Division does that really well
too bad game is owned by the literal shit company that is UBsoft
warm anchor
of that 7 years no one ever think of tire should pop when shot?
I think even CSGO has it
LOL
next wind
That makes sense lol
Hard to keep a game on the latest engine and stuff over 7 years
Yeah 7 years is insane, at that point everything's out of date or has to be redone
warm anchor
To give them credit
peak ginkgo
next wind
Duke nukem 
peak ginkgo
warm anchor
LOL dejay
wary axle
I've not run an MC server in years. Is there something like "LogBlock" available that will run on paper(1.16.4)?
wary axle
@next wind thanks.
next wind
1.8 support server™️ would have helped him though
void void
Yeah 7 years is insane, at that point everything's out of date or has to be redo...
they didn't start writing game code for 3 years iirc?
if that's true then it's basically 4 years old codebase
next wind
Makes sense, that's just what I've heard
Wouldn't be surprised if it went even farther back
warm anchor
The worse part about long development game is that there could be a new release of graphic engine when they are just about to finish the game and they become instantly outdated.
next wind
Alright I'm going to sleep gn everyone
waxen panther
gn
warm anchor
Alright I'm going to sleep gn everyone
unkempt drift
hmm what is the main paper color?
true canyon
Paper color
unkempt drift
theme wise?
golden gust
Look at our logo
unkempt drift
white?
unkempt drift
right ok, but I'm looking for the main one, which I guess you are saying there isn't
golden gust
There ain't really a place where "having s color" matters
So, hence, we don't have one
unkempt drift
well I'm trying to do some color stuff on hangar... like primary button color for example
trying to get a bit of theming going
warm anchor
Should ask some designer to come up with one tbh
Or core team come together and just pick favorite colors lol
golden gust
Take a look at our user list
warm anchor
Lmao
waxen panther
ye cuz it's not f5a5a5
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.colorhexa.com/f5a5a5
golden gust
The biggest thing is copies which aren't too in your face, maybe somewhat muted to avoid looking like too much of a rainbow eye burner
warm anchor
I am sure the core team doesn’t want to be even more notifiable
Or they get even more pings
golden gust
Colours like purple which can stand out but don't run the tone too much, tough, afaik, we all pretty much use dark themes
unkempt drift
ugh yeah, ok I suck with this stuff.
I'll work on flex stuff instead. I enjoy that at least 😆
cedar smelt
hello 
coarse lily
Xbox Series X: acquired.
coarse lily
I was supposed to pick it up yesterday but didn't get around to it. Was kinda worried it'd be gone today.
I think they're both ridiculously difficult.
I have other friends still looking for both with no luck.
I got lucky.
You get a PS5?
ancient bolt
found a thing called reposilite so I can use this instead of nexus
it's beautiful
it's just a maven repo and nothing else
exactly what I wanted
golden gust
wut
I mean, if that's just the dev builds, arse move but 🤷♂️
If that's actually a release on spigot, that's against the rules...
You're not allowed to advertise or sell stuff off site
zealous wedge
you could report that
golden gust
asking for donations to me is a bit of a grey area, but, when you're specifically saying that you gotta pay for some aspect of the plugin, that's against the rules
potent fossil
i was complaining about that like a week ago and yall told me to get over it 
zealous wedge
i mean yes use prism instead
potent fossil
golden gust
❤️
zealous wedge
but also if you see what looks like a violation of spigot roles the appropriate action to take is to file a report on the forum
golden gust
Well, open source is coming oooneee dayyy, ovveeeerrr the raaiiinbow
potent fossil
StaticProtect
coarse lily
It's also unfortunate because if you don't need Discord support you'll never donate.
But still get a warning.
golden gust
updates I can kiiinda forgive
mainly because people don't update and then want support for something 50 versions old
zealous wedge
it'd be nice if they only printed output in exceptional circumstances
like up-to-date plugin with successful update query and no configuration issues should in most cases print nothing
(well, nothing beyond what the Bukkit loader prints for loaded/enabled/disabled messages)
golden gust
Depends, really, if a plugin is hooking into other stuff, its' nice to know that it worked, but, only really stuff which is there to help know if shit went sideways
coarse lily
I don't mind them checking for updates if I can disable the check.
I don't want anything phoning home. I tend to monitor that shit and then blacklist it.
zealous wedge
making update checks disable-able is a requirement of dev.bukkit.org
i assume spigot requires that too
golden gust
if a plugin just registers a dozen events, not really sure I desire a ascii banner
nope
zealous wedge
wait wat
golden gust
spigot doesn't really have too many rules on resources
zealous wedge
i guess makes sense, considering they created their resources page as a more lenient alternative to dbo
but also fuck that
coarse lily
Yeah.
I think the reason for creation speaks a lot to the direction.
Just like how hangar won't have "premium" stuff.
Because Aikar is a communist.
potent fossil
coarse lily
Yeah I mean you can do update checks, warnings, a ton of stuff. But make it an option to be disabled.
Yeah
True, too.
golden gust
See, supporting premium plugins is really caveated, like, in part I could get with it, but, in that case you've gotta run it like a business which creates it's own set of funs, but, spigots way is just a no-go
coarse lily
There's the IReallyKnowWhatIAmDoingISwear flag
Which is handy for when I spun up a 1.15.2 build to test some stuff against.
coarse lily
See, supporting premium plugins is really caveated, like, in part I could get wi...
Yeah I agree. I think there's a way to do it right.
golden gust
Well, we got rid of that sleep because it's just dumb
coarse lily
But the way it's being done right now isn't that.
Paper doesn't throw the same out of date warning, so that's nice.
golden gust
Like, the first thing people run for is the flag to bypass the thing rather than just actually updating, which makes it a pita to have to debug stuff for 0 gain
coarse lily
The other problem with paid resources is when someone grabs someone else's thing and slaps a price on it. Or if they do a minor plugin or update and slap a price on it.
golden gust
Well, you can still have premium plugins and respect the license
coarse lily
Like the kangaroo thing recently.
golden gust
Just, a lot of devs wouldn't like having to follow the rules of others
coarse lily
When notoriety is involved there's going to be abuse. When you add money it's abuse-city.
coarse lily
Just, a lot of devs wouldn't like having to follow the rules of others
Then they can make their own thing! With cocaine and strippers.
(That was for Billy)
golden gust
I could get behind that
coarse lily
It's a little odd, because if it's popular enough it'll get decompiled.
I've made a lot of closed source stuff but I haven't distributed it.
But at the same time when you have the source available it's a lot easier for hacks to steal it.
And "steal" is silly, of course, but someone else on some random "resource" page peddling your shit as theirs gets annoying.
Agreed.
coarse lily
Yeah
dawn sigil
See, supporting premium plugins is really caveated, like, in part I could get wi...
is this why hangar won't have premium plugins?
coarse lily
People violate the GPL all the fucking time.
golden gust
Yes
coarse lily
Because people come to Minecraft, copy and paste a bunch of shit, look at other plugins for how to do it, hang out in Discords and glean how to do things better, than close the source and slap it up for a fee on something like spigot.
Which is silly.
If you're doing something worthwhile I think it's okay to want to get a bit of money for it. Especially since it maybe helps you do more.
void void
coarse lily
But there's a lot of venues for that.
void void
rust coroutines library is called corona
coarse lily
Maybe.
warm anchor
Can always go donation route but Minecraft players rather spend on ranks than support devs
coarse lily
I don't have any hard data on the revenue from either.
zealous wedge
eh i could see the value in a well-run paid plugin
coarse lily
I'd imagine people aren't making a ton of money off either one.
zealous wedge
it's just the community doesn't want that and won't support that
coarse lily
Probably better to get a job doing something else and do Minecraft on the side.
golden gust
People want full time work without chipping into a full-time pot
coarse lily
But if it's enough money to support you then maybe we get some badass plugins.
coarse lily
People want full time work without chipping into a full-time pot
Yeah exactly.
That's the other X factor.
It's a TON of fucking work.
And a ton of work to support.
golden gust
The thing is that many premium plugins are solely made to earn a few bucks
coarse lily
When I was last running a public server it was like 3-6 hours of work a fucking day.
Half of it at work.
golden gust
For every premium plugin, there is practically always a free plugin which offers all you need which has more support behind it because it's fueled by something like passion rather than a wallet which is all over the place
coarse lily
The thing is that many premium plugins are solely made to earn a few bucks
Yeah and that's the part that can suck. Because then you get folks like kangaroo.
Whose name I'm butchering but not intentionally. I don't remember it.
zealous wedge
yeah, like almost all the original big plugins were open-source
you can still go look at some of them today
coarse lily
Most of them still are.
And/or free.
I can't think of anything crucial that isn't open sourced and/or free.
golden gust
The thing that irks me is the changing politics of spigot
The devs who get away for years with shady practices
golden gust
nope
golden gust
spigot takes 0% of purchases, and kag didn't even have anything above like the 15 dollar donation flag or something
coarse lily
But maybe it drives traffic. I dunno why they'd allow shit for years then crack down. Doesn't seem like kangarko did anything really different.
But that's what happens when you have a bunch of stuff run by younger kids and fueled by drama.
Yeah.
It worked for him.
But when you let someone get away with it you signal to them that it's okay.
So later when you tell them to stop they're surprised.
Because it was clearly okay for so long.
warm anchor
golden gust
The issue is where the line is
coarse lily
But hangar can avoid all that if they don't do "premium" resources
golden gust
To me, it seems like the only bar is when it starts hurting spigot as an entity or md himself
coarse lily
Without money involved it's a lot easier to manage stuff.
golden gust
Like, all of the big people who've been banned, people have been speaking out about them consistently for years almost
zealous wedge
and now that it's finally happened, the reactions are absolutely hilarious
they're all so upset about losing their free distribution platform
these random devs who are "the most important people in the community"
golden gust
This conclusion is strengthened when you consider that there is a more likely reason these users were banned — they posed an unacceptable risk to PayPal, or otherwise violated PayPal's terms of service. This explanation is simpler than PayPal explicitly targeting Spigot plugins and/or SpigotMC.org users, and hence more likely to be correct. In fact, there is concrete evidence of these users otherwise violating PayPal's terms of service. The three developers which I am personally aware of being banned have all been caught in the past by us for issuing $0.01 refund(s) to buyers of their plugins. Again, I am not saying this is the reason they were banned by PayPal, but merely demonstrating it as behaviour which I believe is a significantly more likely reason for them to be banned. I also do not discard the possibility that they were banned for excessively high refund/dispute rates; failing to properly verify their PayPal account; bypassing or being associated with banned accounts; or otherwise breaking PayPal's terms of service — all examples of hearsay I have heard in the other direction.
on the paypal thing too, now that was beautiful
issuing a $0.01 refund basically revokes your access to the resource, and, last I recall, basically stiffles you on reporting abuse to paypal easily
coarse lily
Yeah.
Minecraft 101: Do shitty things and then scream when people catch you while claiming you didn't do ANYTHING wrong!
"I didn't X-ray!"
'Here's video of you x-raying'
"lol okay yeah you got me"
limber knotBOT
they more often than not still deny it
coarse lily
Haha true, proxi.
unreal quarry
thats just human nature. you see it all the time in everything and anything. someone cuts you off on the highway so you honk at them, they honk back screaming at you.. like wtf
limber knotBOT
they might've gone to every single ore in diagonal lines, but they'll be adamant that they're innocent
golden gust
I just wish it was legal to jam sticks into cyclists front tire
unreal quarry
^_^ lol
coarse lily
Didn't take long for cat to talk about wanting to murder people.
golden gust
The number of times I've almost been hit by morons running a red light, or seen people almost getting swiped, like, they deserve it
unreal quarry
you seen the one, cat, where a cyclist swerves to the left lane so a motorcycle speeds up to pass, then the cyclist cuts to the right across the lane and gets hit then blames the motorcycle for passing on the right?
void void
I remember riding a bike 2 years ago, not doing that again.
golden gust
Don't think so
void void
Billy was there another biker near the guy when that happened?
unreal quarry
oh, it was great. a harley rider even pulled over to aid the cyclist and yell at the sport biker more
lmao
coarse lily
I've seen that, Billy.
void void
Yep ^
coarse lily
It's rough out there on the street for a motorcycle.
Pretty rough for bicycles, too.
limber knotBOT
perhaps ocelotpotpie is chrysti in disguise!
golden gust
I mean, my experience is that cycles seem to think that they're as visible as a truck while wearing dark clothing on a busy road where you're already tryna figure out what all the other drivers on the road are doing
coarse lily
I dunno Billy is pretty handsome.
unreal quarry
cyclist only know rules when they are pushing them onto others. for themselves, nah... see them run lights all the time and other stupid things
coarse lily
I mean, my experience is that cycles seem to think that they're as visible as a ...
They also tend to alternate between "I'm a car, treat me like one!" and "I'm a person, not a vehicle!" whenever it's convenient for them.
unreal quarry
^
coarse lily
I miss riding. Don't have a motorcycle here at the moment. Too much stuff in storage. :(
Oof.
Yeah states with no helmet laws are rough
Definitely depends on where you are. And certainly not everyone rides responsibly.
golden gust
See, I do cycle once in a blue moon, if it's quiet outside, I'll just generally stick on the pavements and hit the road if i see people, otherwise, I hate cycling as I don't trust car drivers one bit, and generally, I hate holding people up tryna get my fat ass moving
unreal quarry
you'd like mine and chrysti's bikes at night, cat. they light up really bright :3
golden gust
Kinda wanna look into getting a motorbike down the lines maybe, but, then I gotta get a license and all that, oh, and learn how to ride
unreal quarry
Chrysti's at night (don't have a pic of mine at night)
coarse lily
I've been to all 50 states. Texas is in my top 5 worst drivers. Especially Houston.
fallen oracle
You should put some holiday lights on it.
golden gust
See, I'd maybe consider that too bright, but, my eyes are kinda weirdly sensitive
unreal quarry
houston texas here, potpie 😛
coarse lily
Portland I believe, too.
Oregon drivers love to sit in the left lane and do 10MPH below the speed limit.
Haha Billy.
<3
golden gust
Issue with cities is generally confestion and impatience
coarse lily
In that case you need all the light you can get.
formal turret
Don't you love it when people get on the interstate at 25 mph?
golden gust
Some places have actually experimented with closing the main road and found that people actually get to their places faster
coarse lily
Yeah the street in NY is like that, too.
I think they're just trying to distance themselves from Texas.
golden gust
See, I kinda wanna move to the states when I'm older if I get the shot
coarse lily
Why's that, cat?
unreal quarry
texas keeps trying to pass lane splitting law, but it just sits in limbo each year and has to start over. cant wait for that, because its much safer for bikers (contrary to popular belief)
golden gust
Never been fond of it in the UK, especially with cities, etc
coarse lily
Fair enough.
There's a lot of places in the US. I think anyone could find a spot that works for them.
golden gust
My only concern with lane splitting is the morons who drive past 20 cars in the mid-lane
Just, living here
Like, I'd love to live sorta off-grid but not off grid
potent fossil
where in the states
void void
Off grid in the desert?
coarse lily
Yep.
golden gust
I'm not sure, tbqh, I'd love to live sorta like in a rural area but be like a 10-20 minute drive of like being able to get stuff
void void
Solar panels for days
warm anchor
US is right for you then
void void
Quit literally (almost) free electricity.
coarse lily
I love solar.
It never ceases to amaze me.
I have solar on my van.
It's from the sun! It's magic!
void void
Vitamin D too 😉
coarse lily
Easy now we just met.
golden gust
Vitamin D? what's that?
potent fossil
we're all made of starstuffz
potent fossil
rubber comes from trees which are made of starstuffz
coarse lily
What are folks using for a headset?
Mine is heavy and older and I think it's time to upgrade.
unreal quarry
i use desktop speakers with a half decent woofer
golden gust
My hifi is busted, think I gotta get a new pot for it
coarse lily
I have speakers, but I need a headset sometimes especially at night.
My partner sleeps earlier than me.
golden gust
Also gotta get a new edge connector for it and I think one of the contacts borked itself
coarse lily
So right now I'm in silent mode.
unreal quarry
i like to share my music with my neighbors, especially at night, potpie 😛
coarse lily
Haha
golden gust
And, it's a really old one, so, sure enough, getting parts is a PITA so I've gotta come up with a bodge for it
Or, I gotta find some specs on the pot and just solder in resistors as it's just the balance pot which is busted :L
warm anchor
Audiotechnia ad900x good midrange headset ocelo
coarse lily
Always a fun project
Fixing old electronics.
Sourcing old caps and pots and stuff.
golden gust
Maybe I should just get a standalone amp to drive the speakers, but, then it's finding a good amp...
I only got the two components on the right, left one at my parents I think as I didn't need a cassette player and never had the CD component
unreal quarry
cassettes \o/
coarse lily
Vinyl++
limber knotBOT
I'd like a vinyl player at some point
golden gust
Do your research first, ofc, but, you just can't beat the soundscape of vinyl
coarse lily
I used to love finding record stores and combing through old stuff.
I don't mean like, in the 30s.
When I was a wee lad.
I meant in like 2019.
potent fossil
may as well have been decades ago
coarse lily
Yeah
golden gust
Well, yea, I mean, even old gear, worse case you've gotta replace a few caps due to their age or something
golden gust
Like, I remember when something went wrong with something, it was pretty much always mechanical, a chip coming out of it's socket or something due to age and cracked solder, especially from the lead free age
now a days, stuff is built to be cheap enough to justify replacing it every few years or whatever
I remember there being some investigation on like modern dish washers, ovens, etc
The mechanical parts or the "old" components like an induction heater or so simple and time tested that they last
it's more likely that some little chip on some board which costs like 100-200 bucks or pounds is the thing that's gonna go pop
Like, my technics stereo, pretty sure that the only thing busted on it is a connector and a pot
And, I can literally get the service manual for the thing
coarse lily
Yeah stuff from then is a lot more repairable
potent fossil
why did everyone suddenly die at 12:12am
untold copper
wha?
limber knotBOT
thank you ocelot, very cool
potent fossil
limpid comet
i've brought u all here to announce i use irc like a cool kid now
potent fossil
said on Discord
limber knotBOT
.kill bluely
limpid comet
im still figuring it out
limber knotBOT
stabs bluely in the heart a few times with a butchers knife.
limpid comet
w.t.f.
coarse lily
IRC is great.
limber knotBOT
Maybe even the best.
olive garden
I am greater
coarse lily
Could be.
limber knotBOT
doubt
cedar smelt
wow,do both aikar and me4502 had their photos with the same wall?
no they look a little different 😂
limber knotBOT
they don't even live on the same hemispheres
limber knotBOT
you're popular 😁
coarse lily
Dawww
limber knotBOT
slowly figuring it out, blue?
heady spear
“You are popular with me because I think you’re cool”
Pro I put here low key quoting sykkuno
Pro I = Proxi, apparently
twin lagoon
city stop simping sykkuno
limber knotBOT
I didn't know he said that, but that's truly epic
proxi whats with the @ beside your name
is this discord
That means I'm an operator
twin lagoon
proxi awa
limber knotBOT
oh
yes ok
michale awa
there's also ~name for owner, &name for admin, %name for half-op, and +name for voiced
cool
twin lagoon
irc is confusing
limber knotBOT
is that an irc thing or an esper thing
twin lagoon
😔
limber knotBOT
IRC
neat
I've no idea if it's part of the IRC (ocelot might know?), but it's at least commonplace on IRC as a whole
the IRC spec*
quasi valley
irc
limber knotBOT
we'll bonk you knenwald
quasi valley
not if I bonk you first
twin lagoon
limber knotBOT
come over then, knenwald x
quasi valley
limber knotBOT
I'd like to bring up the fact I own more knives than I do any other item
coarse lily
Yeah it's part of IRC.
Voice, ops, etc.
Pretty standard across IRC servers.
All part of the spec, along with the bans and ircopers/etc.
cosmic raft
hallo
quasi valley
you don't have a large collection of sporks? 
coarse lily
Hey kashike.
limber knotBOT
Nope, RFC-2812 does not have anything about voice, half-op, etc. Server operators do however exist there, under 1.2.1.
coarse lily
It's consistent across efnet, dalnet, espernet, etc.
I've spent most of my time on EFNet.
limber knotBOT
And chanops are defined in RFC-1459. But the other groups just seem to be "someone did it, so now we do it too!"
coarse lily
Haha
limber knotBOT
i didnt realize i had two ircs open
"Channel creators" (!name) are defined in RFC-2811. Never seen that one.
im bad at this
limpid comet
i get 3:34 -!- Irssi: warning Could not verify TLS servers certificate: certificate is not yet valid when trying to connect to freenode
wtf
limber knotBOT
Oh voice privileges are also defined in 2811. But half-operators, administrators, and technically owners (though probably just the same as channel creator at this point) with it
limber knotBOT
Ack, I should do some actual work
coarse lily
Pffft work is for suckers!
potent fossil
Environment has the highest KDR, tho
coarse lily
Environment is a murderous bastard.
limber knotBOT
best damn player i ever met, environment
coarse lily
They always win.
vernal moth
twin lagoon
this is not dynmap
vernal moth
its dynmap
twin lagoon
vernal moth
its just a different frontend
twin lagoon
bluemap >
twin lagoon
define cheap
limber knotBOT
ideally around $100 but idc i'm saving up so i'll be able to get whatever
i just need something decent for my homeserver
rn it's on a shitty hard drive that i really don't trust
heady spear
that's how I feel about bluely's
vernal moth
limber knotBOT
my wat
heady spear
I wish I could buy a better one but the current bluely is very shitty and untrustworthy
limber knotBOT
what da fuq
heady spear
wtf didn't mean to put the 's there
limber knotBOT
bluely 2.0 is coming soon
u can preorder
hm
jan 1, 2021
well considering who produces the bluely lineup I'd rather not invest any money into it rn
I am considering liking you again so I can stop bullying you but I haven't decided yet
ok, well please do let me know
oh my god this hard drive is so slow, npm is gonna take like an hour
did u rig it or something city
yes
hmmm I mean ur cool and did nothing wrong but that doesn't mean ur not a human fart cloud
but I suppose I could simp a little more
i could simp a little more too
coarse lily
AS?
olive marlin
Apple Silicon
olive marlin
TIL: there's something called Uroboros Quine. Original is 128 language version, which is a Ruby program, which creates Rust program, which creates Scala program etc - until it loops back to creating original Ruby program.
This is sick. Thought some of you might like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6avJHaC3C2U
olive marlin
Also, last year I became certified Rockstar developer without realizing this guy made it and its fresh. I like the new certificates a lot more.
coarse lily
Ha
wide chasm
Similar to that, you have https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/102370/add-a-language-to-a-polyglot?answertab=oldest#tab-top where each nth answer is a program that compiles and runs the same code in n different languages all with a different result.
olive marlin
Also, implementing Convay Game of Life in Convay Game of Life is sick stuff. All the logic gates in there etc.
coarse lily
Ha
olive marlin
Oh, nice. I knew there are PolyQuines (programs that can be run in different languages, always printing the code of themselves), so it's natural to simplify it to just printing different stuff.
wide chasm
Yeah, this is a bit easier, although they're at 300 languages, so probably not that easy anymore
olive marlin
I wonder if there's somewhere a bigger Uroboros Quine than "just" 128 languages.
Oh yeah, 300 langs in one file... It'd be good to do what the guys did with the Uroboros which is create CI that compiles and checks each language.
limber knotBOT
hi
Hello
why is my name oskarzyg
smh hexchat failed me
It's you backup name
There was already someone named oskar online, which is why it choose to use the secondary name
weird
now it works
You had two IRC instances open or there was a netsplit
but I doubt latter
i guess
anyway, it works now
visual egret
what
twin lagoon
data integrity > no internet connection
visual egret
A Microsoft azure VM would be nice
limber knotBOT
no it wouldn't
limber knotBOT
what exactly are you gonna use 21tb of ram for
twin lagoon
storage
limber knotBOT
Well, don't forget UPS then
either ups or also get 21tb of proper storage
RAM is faster, so
visual egret
is there an mc java client for iOS
limber knotBOT
Whoever made one would be a masochist
cedar spade
not the actual game
coarse lily
I jailbroke an iPhone and put java on it once.
limber knotBOT
wasnt mini making a godot client
coarse lily
It got so hot I probably could have cooked a steak on it.
limber knotBOT
and godot runs on ios
vernal moth
.g minidigger godotcraft
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/MiniDigger/Godotcraft
java: write once, fire extinguisher everywhere
Oh hey, you got a PR
cedar spade
there used to be an Android app that recompiled Mojang's client, but iirc it broke around Nougat and 1.12
vernal moth
Oh hey, you got a PR
by a bot, smh
but yeah, that in theory works on mobile
but: it doesnt have touch control
limber knotBOT
makes a PR correcting a typo
visual egret
update: all lights work but mains is still dead
vernal moth
I plan on making it a real thing after godot 4.0 and mc 1.17
limpid comet
i've always wanted to learn godot
vernal moth
godot is really cool
limpid comet
one of those things that i haven't had any real motivation to learn but it's on the list
vernal moth
its like unity, but nice and not by a shitty company
visual egret
plugs servers into light power
limpid comet
yeah i like the concept of it
fan of it being foss
i do wonder if it'll be maintained like 5 years down the line
vernal moth
godot is 100% ran on donation, yet has docents of ppl working on it in full time
limpid comet
yeah which i find ridiculous
vernal moth
epic games donated to godot ^^
vernal moth
prolly just as a fuck you to unity, but also because they are awesome
limpid comet
yeah
epic games is rly pro-dev
which is probably just a marketing move, but a good one
vernal moth
they dont get any marketing out of this really
nobody but ppl in game dev care
they do it, because tim sweeney is awesome and cares
limpid comet
those r the people who r gonna consider ue for their next game
but yeah there's definitely a "lets be nice" part
epic should donaate 2 hangar
limpid comet
mini gets unlimited beer!
limber knotBOT
And now we got a drunk german guy ... What can go wrong?
vernal moth
godot is backed by all kind of companies, mozilla for web stuff, msft for c#, epic games for rendering and gdscript, plus many smaller companies for stuff like fbx and shit
its amazing
its still really new, but I expect it to hit mainstream with 4.0
especially seeing how much unity is fucking up and how much ue4 dives into pro territory
visual egret
What irc server is this again?
limber knotBOT
i will most definitely hop on the 4.0 train if it goes mainstream
visual egret
thanks
coarse lily
irc.esper.net works.
limber knotBOT
what does godot have to do with c#? i thought it was just gdscript
if you can use c# i'll probably have a way easier time using it
vernal moth
4.0 is a big rewrite of many systems, most notably the full render pipeline to use vulcan
gonna be amazing
limber knotBOT
ok mini u just made my interest in godot skyrocket
now all i need is a fantastic idea
can u export to web
vernal moth
you can even run godot itself in the browser 😄
go thank mozilla for that, donated 50k to make that happen
limber knotBOT
god damn
does this work?
exciting stuff. don't worry, ill shout you out when i make the best godot program ever
ayy it works
mobile irc client
im gonna make a paper shootem up game
basically just propoganda
shoot the spigot owners
unique snow
WASM makes so much more possible.
unique snow
But yea, Mozilla donates to open source, make the only good modern web browser.. what can't they do.
limber knotBOT
honestly, i forgot webassembly was even a reality. i remember hearing it be super hyped a few years ago and then silence
guess that silence was it becoming a reality
They also make rust
twin lagoon
throwback to when they fired a fuckton of useful people
limber knotBOT
^
was just gonna say, how are they still doing this post-cannibalization
WASM is awesome, I just can't figure out how to implement it in my flask app
wasm is clientside
yeah ik
I just can't figure out how to make it work
unique snow
Generally speaking the easiest way is with a framework that supports it natively.
vernal moth
unique snow
Easiest not to be confused with best or correct.
vernal moth
just looked for web based godot games
man this is fun
considering its a simple platformer
heady spear
why the fuck are the d'amelios getting a reality show
they're the least interesting people on the planet
unique snow
I think I remember seeing a method to use Rust with Flask.
heady spear
they're all so boring ??????
limpid comet
ok, so how does wasm work
unique snow
(Rust as WASM)
unique snow
No, it's bytecode
limpid comet
sorry, that
vernal moth
its a full vm kinda
twin lagoon
k who's porting over paper to wasm
cosmic raft
you
twin lagoon
kashike 
limpid comet
better question is when can we run paper serverless
cosmic raft
hi
limpid comet
i wanna run my server on the edge
twin lagoon
unique snow
So basically someone has to have a browser open for the server to be online? 😛
coarse lily
Let's put everything in the browser!
vernal moth
you can run wasm outside of the browser
coarse lily
Browser is the future!
heady spear
I want Bukkit but in PHP. PocketMine showed that it's a dope idea
limpid comet
paper is a windows app
candid mesa
Is this channel fine for asking plug-in advice
coarse lily
Sure.
heady spear
you'll get roasted if ur question dum
coarse lily
I mean paper-dev or paper-help is better sometimes.
And, yeah, we might mock you in general.
unique snow
Worst case we can direct your call
coarse lily
But give it a whirl. :)
limber knotBOT
ok mad shoutout to digitalocean for their over abundance of random guides
i love not having to read traefik's documentation
candid mesa
Is there a significant difference between DeluxeChat, ChatControl Pro, VentureChat, & Multichat? I previously used bungee chat and hated it but switched to multi and find it lacking. Does ChatControl Pro handle the chat system unlike the regular one? Effectively, what I am asking, is I keep seeing recommendations for/against venturechat & deluxechat, but read through their wikis and didn’t notice much difference, so I was wondering if there were any.
unique snow
Linode have a hell of a lot too.
heady spear
they're kinda the baeldung of sysadmin
limber knotBOT
yea
coarse lily
Also avoid ChatControl Pro.
twin lagoon
deluxechat is nice but lacks features
limber knotBOT
what does baeldung even mean
candid mesa
So what’s the answer then😂
heady spear
carbon ftw
twin lagoon
i'd keep an eye on carbonchat
heady spear
^
candid mesa
Carbon? But ok
heady spear
simp for viiiiiic
coarse lily
Carbon has a lot of features already.
unique snow
So ChatControl HotRed is the one to get?
coarse lily
May work for you now.
twin lagoon
chatcontrol has a shit author
heady spear
VentureChat is extremely poorly made
candid mesa
Didn’t kangarko quit or was there drama?
heady spear
the code is just shite in general <.<
coarse lily
ChatControl also just did a rewrite and it's a shit rewrite.
heady spear
kangarko was banned from spigot
twin lagoon
he only cares about his fucking shitty minecraft plugin java development tutorial
nothing of value lost by him getting banned on spigotmc
coarse lily
Better to use a plugin with better support, IMO.
candid mesa
Oh he got banned? Why? Lmao
twin lagoon
advertising his shitty minecraft ebook
heady spear
because he's a manchild who refuses to acknowledge that rules apply to him
unique snow
He posted an update on ChatControl Pro advertising to sell ChatControl Red on MC Market.
heady spear
it was for advertising shit on mcm this time
ChatControl Pro wasn't allowed on Spigot
he got butthurt, posted it on mcm instead of making it an update to the resource people had already bought on Spigot
and started advertising it on Spigot
because yay !!
unique snow
Thought he also advertised his new plugin on his old plugin update page?
heady spear
probs
unique snow
Pretty sure they knocked back the "rewrite" of Pro -> Red, he wasn't happy, put it on MCM, then posted an update on Pro, directing people to Red on MCM.
heady spear
Then he made a Spigot exposé where he compared Spigot to governments trying to hinder entrepreneurs during Covid and that md_5 is jealous of how much money he makes from ChatControl
heady spear
which was such an interesting move lmao
unique snow
But is there a Carbon Red?
coarse lily
Not yet!
heady spear
Vic is too dumb to understand colours
coarse lily
Yeah what the hell
heady spear
once we teach him about them he'll surely post an update
candid mesa
Lmao why’d the plug-in page still up
wide chasm
Red is too simple, should be Carbon Aquamarine or smth
limber knotBOT
All his resources were moved, as is tradition
heady spear
because that's what spaghet does
unique snow
Which plugin page?
heady spear
I mean considering people have spent money on a bunch of them
would suck for them to lose access just because the author is a poopyface, you know?
limber knotBOT
language, city
heady spear
he's a defecation situation
cedar spade
what does baeldung even mean
Site with loads of tutorials for learning the basics of lots of Java things
limber knotBOT
u get points for rhyme
cedar spade
Particularly Spring
limber knotBOT
no i know the site was just wondering where the name came from
i use it all the time
heady spear
ah yes the definition of baeldung is "Site with loads of tutorials for learning the basics of lots of Java things"
limber knotBOT
omg city u owned him! we make such a great team
twin lagoon
shut up furry
heady spear
omg the saddest thing I've ever heard
candid mesa
Oof
heady spear
how will you make it oskar
candid mesa
Where do I find carbon lmao
heady spear
trick question, you won't !
candid mesa
Big oof
limber knotBOT
y is someones whatsapp number in my port forwarding rules
additionally y is port forwarding stupid
i think its just my router, actually
wide chasm
no i know the site was just wondering where the name came from
Bäldung is German for education
heady spear
that makes a lot of sense
coarse lily
blue I route all my ports to Whatsapp, too.
limber knotBOT
thanks stef
coarse lily
Wow harsh.
coarse lily
blue I'm buying that SSD.
limber knotBOT
does kscott.dev give u cloudflare's ssl error
coarse lily
You convinced me.
coarse lily
Yeah.
coarse lily
Too good a deal to pass up.
limber knotBOT
yeah
coarse lily
Secondary drive on the box I'm building.
limber knotBOT
i wish i had the kinda money to buy it rn but whatever
prices'll come down by the time i can buy
coarse lily
Yeah I'm buying it as a Christmas present for myself.
limber knotBOT
i might also do that :p
coarse lily
. . . along with the Xbox and a bunch of other shit apparently.
limber knotBOT
lol
limber knotBOT
if my server's hdd bug me enough i might get a sata -> m.2 adapter
coarse lily
For US.
limber knotBOT
i have a 500gb intel m.2 ssd i use as an external drive but i could really just back all my files up to a rando hard drive
coarse lily
Yeah.
coarse lily
SATA
limpid comet
ah
coarse lily
I'm gonna do an m.2 primary drive and an SATA secondary.
limber knotBOT
yeah that's always a nice combo
limpid comet
o wat
twin lagoon
simple
visual egret
FINALLY POWER
limpid comet
oh fuck yeah DO has a traefik 2 guide
tho if im being hhonest i dont trust anything using toml
unique snow
I'm fairly competent with traefik v2, use it for docker-compose and k8s.
worn ember
Ok boomer
limpid comet
owned
ashen cliff
NVMe-oF ❤️.
unique snow
Traefik can use docker labels too
limpid comet
its gonna feel so nice to get this properly dockerized
unique snow
Which?
unique snow
Ah yea
limpid comet
website(s)
unique snow
Use the label syntax for traefik if you're going to docker.
visual egret
hi godot developers, how u doing?
unique snow
Everything that can't be configured via a label can be configured by modifying the docker command for traefik
limpid comet
that's what i think i was doing
the thing that confuses me tho is that the DO doesn't use docker-compose for running traefik itself
just the services
i mean i can easily switch it over but is it for a reason or just simplicity's sake
unique snow
As long as it is sharing a network with the containers it's fine
And using the docker provider
amber bobcat
how do I PM someone?
unique snow
I actually have my databases and backend stuff in it's own compose and just share the networks
limpid comet
i guess the idea is that you can restart the compose containers without fuckin with traefik
amber bobcat
says I can not
unique snow
Yep
limpid comet
oh ok