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potent fossil
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I swear to god, it's the noob programmer ethos or something to recommend overpriced youtube "tutorial courses" to people instead of free learning alternatives

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they have it in their heads for some reason that youtubers are the ultimate source of teaching authority

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and that autodidacts are somehow stupid shells of what a true programmer is

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they are so fucking stupid

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I cannot fucking process this

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ive found github is the best way to learn

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after getting the basics down, id totally recommend that as the best start

potent fossil
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yeah, I recommended freecodecamp to learn get started with JS and this dude pings me and is like

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"no. that only gets you to basic level."

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"buy this $30 course and do it"

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and I look at it and it's literally like maybe 1/3rd of what FCC teaches

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with some library walkthroughs added in

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and I literally...proxi

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my brain CANNOT

golden gust
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Issue is that most people wanting to learn are expecting something that can learn how to copy/paste from, imho

potent fossil
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yeah I don't know, they just completely forget about actual problem solving

golden gust
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Most of the guides are focused on crapping java down your throat (I was supposed to say cramming, but, imma just... leave that), just enough so that they can scream that if you're lacking knowledge (which, as I generally say, you're gonna learn enough to piss you off about the stuff you know on the fundementals courses, meaning that when we tell you to go look at those to figure stuff out, you're gonna be pissed off because you know enough to bore you scatted through tons of basics like "what is an object" which you don't properly grasp yet)

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i think the issue is more they dont know thats the core of development

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like yes its mentioned, but thats really what development is all about so should be focused on much more

potent fossil
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idk man, they just prefer being told "hey this exists and this is how you can do <X> cool thing!!!!!!!!!"

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and that's it

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that's learning

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that's "advanced study"

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I just do not have the brainpower to deal with it

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I just popped some melatonin and I'ma snooze

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And also man was just a generic word there not referrring to anybody

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my california is showing

golden gust
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ladies and gentlemen, and proxi

potent fossil
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i just want to be clear ok

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thats a fairly common way to speak, meh

untold copper
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hai guys its 12 PM and I just woke up :D

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How ya'll doing uwu

potent fossil
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okay brain battery dead

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bai

golden gust
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yea, coz that's totally new

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am guessing you haven't replace that battery in 20 years

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btw, hai aim mini

potent fossil
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cat i will shit in your litterbox and then pour catnip on top of it then pick you up from your nap and shove you into it

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ok that perhaps may be too harsh

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i'll pour water on you

golden gust
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peepoPlane good bye friends !

zealous wedge
untold copper
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I BOUGHT MINECRAFT

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AAAAAAA

ashen cliff
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👏

untold copper
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suggest to me some clientsssssss

mossy vessel
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Design your own shrug_animated

untold copper
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hoW

mossy vessel
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There are plenty of oss clients like HeliosLauncher e.g.

untold copper
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I seeee

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kewl

ashen cliff
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-50 on all parts of the CPU.

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@zealous wedge awa

zealous wedge
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@minor badge good night :3

rare tiger
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released the first version of this time to shill

untold copper
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COOL!

rare tiger
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ty ty

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it took like a solid week

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@zealous wedge nighty!

twin lagoon
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caaaaaaaaaamm

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how hot are we talking about

worn ember
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5

twin lagoon
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what the FUCK

worn ember
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haha 42 is like the highest temp ever measured in belgium and these dudes just get it casually

twin lagoon
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i die at 32

viral hornet
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Not sure, but I was told it was 45c or something in south Australia

worn ember
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i die at anything above 25 tbh

twin lagoon
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ok that too

worn ember
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21 be perfect

twin lagoon
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now 21C

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yes

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yes.

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21C is just the perfect temperature god has created

vernal bone
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Hello! Does anyone knows any alive MineZ servers?

untold copper
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all these clients are sooo bad

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Ima just use Tlauncher with mojang account XD

worn pasture
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lol sydney's just like "heatwave? what heatwave?"... business as usual again

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maybe more cloud than usual

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the weekend was horrible though

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i dont understand how this restaurant works ✨

twin lagoon
ashen cliff
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TLauncher, the easy way of installing Optifine without opening the Mojang launcher, installing the latest version, extracting the latest Optifine version as a mod and installing it in your MultiMC instance.

upbeat kelp
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Wait is 35 celsius is not normal

wide chasm
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Depends on where you live

worn ember
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does "implements #number" not close an issue on gh thonkeng

upbeat kelp
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We have 35 daily

limber knotBOT
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I just always use "closes" ded

upbeat kelp
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Which I learnt to tolerate

worn ember
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i know "fixes" closes them too

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i think there are a few keywords

limber knotBOT
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yeah, fixes doesn't always apply tho, for features for example

worn ember
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these apparently

mossy vessel
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No need to comment a commit any further.

worn ember
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lol... if you edit the comment and then merge it doesnt apply

ashen cliff
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No.*

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Not very Paper 2.0 of you.

viral hornet
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@viral hornet awa

viral hornet
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🥺 uwu

quasi valley
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camm you filthy weeb

viral hornet
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@quasi valley GOOD

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MORRRNINGGGGG

quasi valley
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no

woven otter
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uwu penalty for all of you

viral hornet
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Kenny 🥺

quasi valley
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no, proxi is in a gray area

viral hornet
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Good morning 🥺

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How is the weather today

woven otter
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everyone is in gray area except light mode users

ashen cliff
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We treat people equally here, except people who use Skript, people who use offline mode, people who use Spigot and people who use forks of Paper... so no differently than Spigot. kekwhyper

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knenwald 🥴

ashen cliff
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Fact!

plain thunder
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anyone got good mods/plugins (mods without player installing them themselves on their PC) for a survival server?

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like are there any good survival enhancing mods or..

ashen cliff
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SlimeFun.

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CraftBook.

viral hornet
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mcMMO is another popular one.

plain thunder
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hmmm

woven otter
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mcMMO is 🔥

plain thunder
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wait so SlimeFun is a plugin, but its also a mod?

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yo what

ashen cliff
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We only listed plugins.

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Since you can't send mods to Vanilla clients.

plain thunder
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yeah but slimefun seems to have modded items tho

ashen cliff
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It's a unholy abomination using heads.

plain thunder
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hmm..

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why the hell is mcmmo paid now tho

ashen cliff
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It's still free.

plain thunder
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its not

ashen cliff
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You just have to build it yourself.

waxen panther
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It’s been premium for 7 years

plain thunder
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wait wheres the source then

waxen panther
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Github

golden gust
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on github

plain thunder
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nah 2016 was the last time mcmmo was free

waxen panther
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Nope

plain thunder
waxen panther
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That’s the bukkit version lol

plain thunder
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ive always used mcmmo in 1.12 somehow

golden gust
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Note the timeframe between that update and the last one

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It was a "we're moving off here so we're gonna drop a 1.7 build to shut people up"

ashen cliff
plain thunder
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wut

golden gust
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The author has an official jenkins somewhere, shouldn't really link to that one

waxen panther
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He’d rather you build it yourself anyway

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It’s not hard to do

plain thunder
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well first i somehow have to get maven on my pc then

waxen panther
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yep

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google it, I believe in you

woven otter
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brocc 🥺

waxen panther
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gm gm

untold copper
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which launcher do you all usee?

waxen panther
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multimc

woven otter
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vanilla and multimc

untold copper
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its already installed :pog:

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nyc

waxen panther
untold copper
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hai brocc :D

worn ember
void void
plain thunder
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yay i did it

woven otter
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wow rude

plain thunder
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i got maven installed

woven otter
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don't want that

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kicks bad

worn ember
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right in the nuts

plain thunder
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so i just clone the github repo now

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?

untold copper
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wait, so multimc doesn't use %appdata%?

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you can put the worlds

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separately

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for every instance?

ashen cliff
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Yes.

untold copper
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thats so cool

ashen cliff
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Every instance is isolated.

untold copper
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and it doesn't use %appdata%

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So all users can have the same world 😎

worn ember
plain thunder
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damn its downloading a billion files or something

worn ember
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welcome to version control

plain thunder
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wym lol

ashen cliff
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--depth 1 exists.

plain thunder
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uh oh

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the github said i had to run mvn clean package install so i did

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my network can handle it, so can my 32gb ram pc so thats fine

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uh oh

void void
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mvn -V

plain thunder
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bru

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bru bruh bruhhhhh

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

novel horizon
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┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

plain thunder
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tf is the difference between JRE and JDK, when did i even install JRE?

novel horizon
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e environment dk development kit 🤷‍♂️

plain thunder
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wait can i install jdk alongside jre then

void void
ashen cliff
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JDK contains JRE.

plain thunder
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okay so i have to uninstall jre then

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wait how tf-

worn ember
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JRE doesnt contain JDK

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you install both

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well idk if you have to?

ashen cliff
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Dark.

plain thunder
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well jre is from like 2019 i just noticed

worn ember
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krusic

ashen cliff
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Good.

plain thunder
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ill just run the jdk installer

waxen panther
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lol

plain thunder
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lets see if it works 😛

worn ember
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you'll need to set your environment variables too (JAVA_HOME)

plain thunder
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where

waxen panther
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Installer does it

worn ember
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oh, since when?

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been a while since i installed java

plain thunder
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aye it works now

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jre is still installed tho

waxen panther
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Yes

void void
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I recommend this JDK

ashen cliff
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The AdoptJDK installer asks you about JAVA_HOME.

worn ember
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man, towny with all their builds triggers dependabot every day smh

ashen cliff
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Oracle... not soo much.

worn ember
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gonna have to change the version triggers

plain thunder
void void
ashen cliff
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👏

plain thunder
waxen panther
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tf is sap

ashen cliff
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SAP is SAP.

olive garden
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huge company

ashen cliff
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You can learn SAP and get rich AF.

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But we know you won't.

plain thunder
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wait so the hell do i do

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uninstall the jdk then?

worn ember
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@plain thunder the biggest one

olive garden
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SAP is exactly what I don't want to work with

worn ember
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so probably shaded

plain thunder
worn ember
waxen panther
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It’s the same

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One is renamed

plain thunder
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why are there 2 tho

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is it the version named jar?

worn ember
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

waxen panther
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So it’s friendly for the ci

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Just use the mcmmo.jar

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thank you autocorrect

plain thunder
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alright

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havent used mcmmo in a while imma suppose i have to config a lot of stuff

worn ember
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hm, doesnt maven just rename the jar instead of copy rename?

ashen cliff
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Depends on how you configure it.

waxen panther
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You can do both

worn ember
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ah

waxen panther
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mcmmo is moving to the superior build system eventually anyway

ashen cliff
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So what Gradle?

worn ember
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Ant

waxen panther
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Yerd

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Gradle

plain thunder
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ive built Gradle jars before, windows really sucks at it

worn ember
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windows sucks at everything usually

waxen panther
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Windows really sucks at a lot of things

plain thunder
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guess ill have to boot into my ubuntu subsystem for this shit next time

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yeah i know

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windows is like gaming, and linux is everything programming related

worn ember
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meh

waxen panther
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Pretty much

worn ember
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tried that, ended up just reeeing a bunch and moving back to windows

waxen panther
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Eventually Linux will be both

plain thunder
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i have several years of experience with ubuntu though

waxen panther
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ded ur literally just too dumb and lazy to learn Linux

worn ember
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yes

plain thunder
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i also have my raspberry pi to compile stuff on if its really gonna be bad

worn ember
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wym you want me to figure out how to set up my own window manager?

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just do it for me kappa

waxen panther
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you don’t have to

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just install a premade distribution

plain thunder
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good thing on ubuntu alongside windows is you can transfer le files

waxen panther
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6head

worn ember
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yeah but the default is so fucking ugly it burns my eyes

ashen cliff
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You have too, if you want to flex. Daily.

plain thunder
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through both OSes

waxen panther
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There are a lot of good looking premade distros

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you’re just looking at the wrong ones

worn ember
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im just so used to windows i want it to be like windows but not suck at everything

ashen cliff
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ReactOS.

olive garden
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you can use WSL under Windows if you need Linux to compile stuff

plain thunder
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i dont like wsl

olive garden
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but everyting Java related works fine on Windows

worn ember
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WSL took 5 minutes to start up my docker container

olive garden
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WSL takes 0.5 seconds to start

plain thunder
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WSL breaks more often than just dual booting linux alongside windows lol

worn ember
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i redid it just in cmd and it booted in like 10 seconds

olive garden
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yeah, WSL won't break if you just do Java stuff

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lol

worn ember
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but yeah cant be assed to learn gradle properly either, i'll use it if someone else uses it in their project, otherwise i stick to maven

plain thunder
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oh lord

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mcmmo is gonna take a while to config

waxen panther
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The config works by default

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it’s a little easy though

ashen cliff
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Find: 00
Replace: 000

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Ez.

waxen panther
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Yea lol

worn ember
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lmao

plain thunder
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not if you have smth like essentialsX where you gotta get every damn permission configured through a group manager

ashen cliff
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GroupManager.

worn ember
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just yeet antibuild

ashen cliff
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AntiBuild is the best thing ever tho.

waxen panther
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mcmmo.defaults

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there you go

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done

worn ember
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mcmmo.* and watch the carnage

plain thunder
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if i do mcmmo.* everythings fucked xd

waxen panther
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another comedy gold moment from ded

worn ember
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i was born to perform zoop

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@waxen panther broccolai - doing what?

waxen panther
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broccolai - ignoring my lecture

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proximyst - doing ?

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wtf

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stop ignoring it

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proximyst - on train

waxen panther
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... he’s talk about how to use git

worn ember
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is this a new way to roleplay?

waxen panther
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proximyst - going where?

olive garden
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proximyst - going home

worn ember
primal steppe
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paper doesn't have a config for gravity block duping
it's been a long and fun run paperMC, godspeed to the both of us
time to press the "install fabric" button

waxen panther
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proximyst - broccolai join?

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weeb in chat siren

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yos

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train also goes by södertälje and norrköping

waxen panther
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Two places I know very well yes

worn ember
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yos

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wanna pick up city?

waxen panther
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if he doesn’t hate us today 😔

worn ember
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yeah good luck with that one

waxen panther
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he always hates u it’s different

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his love for us is a coin flip

ashen cliff
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Mad lad actually left.

waxen panther
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who

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city probably

ashen cliff
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Bruh. Discord pranking me again.

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Can it at least once load all the info?

waxen panther
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no

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illegal

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ok this lecture is boring

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waxen panther
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I am going to get a coffeee

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wtf wtf

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cloud - v2?

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yos

waxen panther
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😳

ashen cliff
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I can see my server from up there.

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i can see ur mum

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😎

waxen panther
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that’s not hard

worn ember
waxen panther
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how could lettuce be boring

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boring lettuce 😔

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my head hurts brocc

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bring me paracetamole 😔

worn ember
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ugh i got spring boot in 6 minutes sad

waxen panther
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okie 🥺

waxen panther
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I got some right next to my measuring jug 😎

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woa

untold copper
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les go

waxen panther
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Ah yes

untold copper
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😄 :D

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@waxen panther broccolai ?

waxen panther
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Feeling good 😎

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My lecturer is insulting java 😔

golden gust
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charge ya' battri

worn ember
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i'ma steal your order

waxen panther
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I only charge my phone when it’s dead cuz I’m lazy

worn ember
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so you let it die then bring it back to live every few days? Wow you're messed up

waxen panther
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Ya

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Sue me

worn ember
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No.

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ur not worth my $60

waxen panther
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Pussc

worn ember
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rude

waxen panther
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Probably

untold copper
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Badlion Client is shit

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its one huge advertisement

vernal moth
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Advertisment for what?

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I thought the server died

worn ember
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imagine not using the default launcher

vernal moth
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^

untold copper
vernal moth
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Huh

untold copper
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it looks pwetty neat

worn ember
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i use it for modded

vernal moth
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I only use the default one

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For everything

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Haven't found a reason to switch yet

worn ember
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no u

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sucking is permitted

wide chasm
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All launchers I've tried suck so I just stick to Mojang's

waxen panther
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multimc sucks but it doesn't try to be fancy

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all i want is good account switching and easy version switching which multimc does p well

plain thunder
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Badilon so far is the best launcher ive ever seen compared to the default one

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Its a client sided modding client thingy but its useful

mental meadow
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Badlion breaks so much stuff

waxen panther
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it's ugly

plain thunder
waxen panther
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emotes in minecraft 😷 🤚

plain thunder
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wait badilon has emotes?

mental meadow
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I know that it breaks a lot of chat stuff

woven otter
waxen panther
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why not

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gaming on linux is getting better all the time

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it's only a few anti-cheats that are holding it back now

plain thunder
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never had chat issues but thats because i disabled all chat plugins and stuff

woven otter
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do major games actually support that

waxen panther
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easycheat and the other one block linux atm

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and proton cant get around that without getting you banned

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rust on linux when Sadge

woven otter
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SteamOS might be a step forward idk tho

plain thunder
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didnt SteamOS get deprecated or smth

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or like abandoned lately

waxen panther
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steamos is just a debian distro

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it's also closed source

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closed source distros pepe10headout

woven otter
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disgustang

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@waxen panther broccolai - very STUPID

mental meadow
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broccolai - very cute

waxen panther
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wtf

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proxi is bullying me Sadge

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thank you aouruwa PepeLove

topaz geyser
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Can I purchase minecraft on 2 different email with only one credit card info?

waxen panther
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yes

mental meadow
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sure

waxen panther
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owning two accounts isn't illegal why would they care

topaz geyser
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using the same credit card?

waxen panther
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yes

wide chasm
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Sadly you can't have multiple accounts on the same e-mail

cunning raft
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i hope they add that down the road since their account system won't be a trainwreck anymore

wide chasm
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Yeah same

waxen panther
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i have mine on the same email with the ~ thing

untold copper
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i tried buying mc today

waxen panther
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not sure what it's called lmao

untold copper
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using credit+debit

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didn't work

waxen panther
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why not

untold copper
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had to use paypal in the end kekw

woven otter
untold copper
waxen panther
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ok duck

woven otter
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no

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u

waxen panther
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when I get god lead moderator on this server im banning u first

woven otter
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you won't

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because you will be banned by then

wide chasm
waxen panther
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I am lovely how could I be banned

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wtf pensiveFlushed

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it’s wiz all over again

woven otter
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ban!

waxen panther
woven otter
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BAN THE VEGETABL

waxen panther
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NO

wide chasm
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I like vegetables though, so I'll keep broccoli

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Duck isn't a vegetable, though, so bye

waxen panther
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vegetables like you pl

woven otter
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WTF

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top anime betrayals

untold copper
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no broccolai is goob vegetabl

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*pat pat *

waxen panther
mental meadow
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vetagbl

waxen panther
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vegbal

untold copper
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veg

waxen panther
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v

cedar spade
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broccoli - very little

waxen panther
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im a big man !

woven otter
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brocc is literally a vegetable

vernal moth
untold copper
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optifine doesn't work in vanilla mc for some reason

waxen panther
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the account switching on vanilla is always kinda weird for me, seems to log me out a lot. Doesn't seem to happen to everyone else though so idk

untold copper
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:sus:

cedar spade
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MultiMC has pretty nice mod management, I use it for that

waxen panther
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and also the vanila instance switcher sucks when you've got a lot of different versions

plain thunder
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dang i just realised there are no elevator plugins for 1.16 anymore, but i also dont like the downwards water elevator cuz of the damage at the bottom.. :c

waxen panther
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the first result on google for elevator plugin says it supports 1.16

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why r u weirdchamping me

plain thunder
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which one bruh

waxen panther
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@mental meadow im being bullied

plain thunder
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oh that one

mental meadow
plain thunder
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but i dont want that one

waxen panther
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amazing

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the second one on the list also supports 1.16

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and the third one

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you get the picture

plain thunder
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i want a moving one and literally none of those are moving ones

waxen panther
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🤨

plain thunder
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because these do actually move

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rather than just teleport to a block above you

waxen panther
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lol

plain thunder
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bruh wtf

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why am i not finding those

waxen panther
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dude

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it was literally in the screenshot i sent

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you're just not looking

kindred stratus
#

Hi

plain thunder
#

yeah but im not getting those results at all

waxen panther
#

search on spigot then

#

my man you're using BING

woven otter
#

bing bong

worn ember
#

ding dom dom ding

woven otter
#

ding dom ur dum

visual egret
#

im gonna get win10 edition using those gift cards soon

vestal jasper
waxen panther
#

pain

woven otter
#

seeing brocc brings pain every time

waxen panther
#

duccccccccccck 😠

woven otter
#

😭

left swift
#

Bruuuh

#

Bruuhhhh

vernal moth
#

I like how the guy just stops responding once he got exposed for using bing

#

The shame is real

waxen panther
#

i even specified that i was using google pepecry

left swift
#

Search engine shamers in 2020

#

Unreal

woven otter
#

irc is binging too so

plain thunder
plain thunder
waxen panther
#

what are you using

#

because that is exactly how bing looks

plain thunder
#

im using google but without all those trackers

#

duckduckgo or something

waxen panther
#

duckduckgo doesn't have reviews like that

woven otter
#

seems like brocc is bing poweruser

plain thunder
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

i dont use bing

waxen panther
#

do you really want to die on this hill

#

im not above taking screenshots on all three

#

i got a lot of time to waste

golden gust
#

google but without

#

So, not google...

waxen panther
golden gust
#

But, googles tracking is what helps with stuff like finding results which are actually relevant

#

🤷‍♂️

woven otter
#

cat has accepted the tracking

waxen panther
#

i use duckduckgo for most things but yeah when i want good results i use google

woven otter
#

just give in. google knows everything about you that there is to know anyways

waxen panther
#

idrc about tracking i just like how duckduckgo looks

#

fits my rice better

plain thunder
#

hmmm

waxen panther
#

holy shit duck stop adding random reactiosn to my messages

#

im going to block u again so ucant

#

its done

woven otter
#

wtf

#

why

waxen panther
#

u deserve it

woven otter
#

n

#

o

#

please unblock

waxen panther
#

nope

#

you had your chance

#

i thought you had changed for the better

woven otter
#

Ill remove them all

#

that's it I'll add you to my naughty list

waxen panther
#

ok

#

what are you going to do, ban me from your chat minigame plugin?

woven otter
#

no I will just add stupid hashtag to my nickname

waxen panther
#

oh no

woven otter
#

yes you will feel the pain

left swift
#

Duck more like goose

woven otter
#

nomanasendhelp more like nomana don't send help

left swift
#

Gottem

woven otter
#

mana users suck anyways

worn ember
#

noman ass end help

woven otter
#

end ded

worn ember
#

no

#

just kick duck again so he gets banned

left swift
#

Duck is canceled

#

<kpop fancam video>

waxen panther
woven otter
#

wtf

#

you cant say that

#

thats illegal

#

those kicks were a fluke FeelsCryingMan

golden gust
#

shoulda known it was MTM

woven otter
#

shh

left swift
#

Message the mom 123

woven otter
#

Just need to be more careful next time 🙂

violet grotto
woven otter
#

oh thanks alot

cosmic raft
#

huh

#

youtube autoplay played this song

#

and a part of it is super catchy

worn ember
#

thats unheard of

cosmic raft
#

from 30s to 45s

mossy vessel
#

cute

worn ember
#

first time you heard that song kash?

cosmic raft
#

yea

worn ember
#

its quite well known here lol

#

good song

cosmic raft
worn ember
#

oh yeah, thats the one actually

cosmic raft
#

:-p

worn ember
#

wtf they sound so similar yet different

golden gust
cosmic raft
#

yea no thanks

#

cringe fest

golden gust
#

;P

cosmic raft
#

hey cat

worn ember
#

ok thats cringe af

cosmic raft
#

do you want some nice calm music?

golden gust
#

no such thing as "calm music" when I got a piglin around me in MC....

cosmic raft
waxen panther
#

kash music 😳

left swift
#

(EXPLICIT)

cosmic raft
#

no really? what did you expect from that album art?

#

kitties and butterflies? :P

left swift
woven otter
cedar spade
#

Seasonal avatar time

vernal moth
#

Heh, I was appointed moderator on the directus discord, a headless CMS we use for work where i hang around on work time and help to find issues 😂

quasi valley
#

I can present my beautiful new avatar as well

slim nymph
#

my new avatar is the greatest

woven otter
slim nymph
#

how is a duck a dumb veggie

twin lagoon
#

because he is

woven otter
#

no brocc is

waxen panther
#

he's bullying me

#

for some reason

woven otter
#

u blocked me meanie

waxen panther
#

you were spam reacting to all of my messages 😠

woven otter
#

that is not true

visual egret
#

new logo

limpid comet
#

hi

woven otter
#

no

worn ember
#

why are you blue?

visual egret
#

because hes blue

worn ember
#

yes

visual egret
#

blueley

waxen panther
#

uwu blue

ashen cliff
#

I need a hat.

visual egret
#

and broccolai is green

waxen panther
#

yes

#

am vegbal

visual egret
limpid comet
#

yes i was granted the power of blue

#

brocc we r so cool

ashen cliff
#

Good hat. Highly recommended.

limpid comet
#

AAWWW KYUBE

visual egret
limpid comet
#

POG

#

I need to rewatch that

visual egret
limpid comet
#

oskar

#

make me one

visual egret
#

ummm

#

ill try

ashen cliff
#

Needs a better hat.

woven otter
#

what was the way to run paper in dev environment. I remember someone talking about some setup but cant really remember anything

worn ember
#

hit the play button

left swift
#

Dont hit buttons that's rude

worn ember
#

they have no rights shut up

left swift
#

Capital D colon

worn ember
#

excuse you

#

ur banned

limpid comet
#

What about my colon?

left swift
#

Ded is canceled

#

<kpop fancam video>

limpid comet
#

Hey krusic, since you're a guy

#

In your opinion do you think I should fiddle with prime for my laptop or should I just go with Nvidia GPU always

left swift
#

How do those two things correlate

visual egret
waxen panther
#

Beautiful

limpid comet
#

Incredible

#

Thank you

woven otter
limpid comet
#

Also I meant guy as in "person that exists"

woven otter
#

can I hit you instead

limpid comet
#

Wtf I'm so cute now

#

Pog

#

Oh yeah, right, no X server anymore

#

So I guess I'll go with bspwm

waxen panther
#

pepelaugh

limpid comet
#

Brocc do you use a tiling wm?

#

I don't really get them

waxen panther
#

just openbox

limpid comet
#

I guess you basically need to use multiple desktop environments

waxen panther
#

I'd like to use a tiling wm but i dont know how to rice them

#

so i cant be bothered

limpid comet
#

Lol

#

I just want basic window borders

#

I'll look into polybar too

#

Seems like exactly what I want

#

Nothing big and chunky like tint2

waxen panther
#

I have a lot of openbox scripts for moving windows in a 'tiling' way

ashen cliff
waxen panther
#

didn't you say your laptop is always plugged in blue

limpid comet
#

Sounds good, my laptop is always plugged in

#

Yeah

waxen panther
#

if it is, dont bother fucking around with prime

#

it's a pain

limpid comet
#

Was just wondering how much effort I should put in

#

Alright perfect

#

Thanks you two

waxen panther
#

awa

ashen cliff
#

Also if you can, limit the battery to 70%.

limpid comet
#

Honestly I think we're passed that point

#

This laptop has been in a charger for the past year

#

The battery is already shot to shit

waxen panther
#

lol

ashen cliff
#

Better shot, than on fire.

limpid comet
#

Lol fair

spiral robin
#

Gm

limpid comet
#

I'll look into it

waxen panther
#

just take the battery out

limpid comet
#

Aber look at me

#

I'm so festive

#

Actually kinda smart wtf

spiral robin
#

Omg

#

Yes u are!

waxen panther
#

should move the hat to the middle

#

aber needs a hat too

spiral robin
#

Yes I do

limpid comet
#

I don't have that kind of technology

ashen cliff
#

Well, 1 minute of battery is still better than 0.
"Free" UPS.

limpid comet
#

After I complete arch post install stuff then I'll see what I can do about battery

ashen cliff
#

What laptop do you have?

#

You can also check the bios for a battery limit or something like Kiosk mode.

limpid comet
#

ASUS ROG Strix hero 3

#

Or something

#

G731GV

spiral robin
woven otter
potent fossil
#

Bet that section would've helped you a lot huh Duck

#

Too bad nothing's in there

wide chasm
#

Let's create another making your first plugin guide for netbeans and Minecraft 1.8 that only works half of the time

ashen cliff
#

And make sure to not include a build system.

#

Also add a library that only exists on a paid Russian FTP server.

woven otter
ashen cliff
#

Interesting. Memory ballooning issue.

woven otter
#

Im actually looking for a way to use a debugger on paper. Im pretty sure there was a guide about that or maybe someone mentioned something like that in here

#

not sure

wide chasm
#

Remote debug and tada

woven otter
#

No not plugin

ashen cliff
#

I think he wants to also see the source code.

woven otter
#

^

limpid comet
#

is optimus-manager the pro way to use Nvidia always

wide chasm
#

So, do you want to debug Paper itself?

woven otter
#

yes

wide chasm
#

I know you can set breakpoints within libraries and IntelliJ will handle that fine. Could make a small plugin as entry point with the entire Paper jar as dependency, then remote debug and set a breakpoint in the Paper library. There are probably more elegant solutions, though.

limpid comet
#

Nvm

woven otter
#

hence why i'm looking for a better way and don't think that even works because the classes are actually relocated not sure

wide chasm
#

Has worked for me in the past

untold copper
#

every "instance" in multiMc is like a separate installation of MC, is that correct?

limpid comet
#

more or less

#

yeah

untold copper
#

Ohk, ty

vernal moth
#

(the offical launcher can do that too)

twin lagoon
#

(but harder)

golden gust
#

Not really harder, you literally just hit "change dir"

untold copper
#

I'll just use MultiMC

#

It seems very flexible

vernal moth
#

And fuggly

twin lagoon
#

but more useful

limpid comet
#

ok i think I'm close to having bspwm running

#

Multimc is top tier

#

IT WORKS POG

twin lagoon
#

minidigger's car

#

wdym 🤮 it's currywurst

mossy vessel
#

The car is super dirty

#

which is gross

woven otter
mighty storm
#

are those beans

spiral robin
#

Michael 🥺

left swift
#

That car looks high in protein

woven otter
#

thanks paper forums for help (aka discord chat history)

#

so pretty much the way to do it is to disable relocations and attach debugger or run from IDE which is essentially the same thing

#

Time to make a guide on paper forums

spiral robin
#

@limpid comet we should make a guide for startmcdotsh

ashen cliff
#

JProfiler should allow you to select a source code path.

limpid comet
#

yeah it's on my todo list

#

thats what i want under the start your server box

#

ok im slowly understanding bspwm

#

this is super awesome wtf

#

i have nitrogen set up for some nice papes

#

and rofi runs with super + r

#

shoutout to arch wiki

#

they have literally everything

spiral robin
#

Oh btw you use arch?

limpid comet
#

y-yes

#

😳

#

ok i think i get tiling wms now

#

this was already my workflow on windows

#

this is even more optimized

#

what the fuck?? my cpu is pinned at 100% but the os is still useable

vernal moth
woven otter
golden gust
#

Disable the null ability annotation compiler thing in the settings somewhere

woven otter
#

o

potent fossil
#

holy fuck i need to stay off facebook

#

some dude is selling a ps2 with a "fusion card" claiming it's functionally equivalent to a ps5 for $600 and boomers are biting

twin lagoon
#

lmao

golden gust
#

Wait

potent fossil
#

its funny but its too early for this shit

golden gust
#

People on Facebook are dumb?

slim nymph
#

time to 1 up it and sell a SNES with a dark matter powered gpu that beats the PS10

left swift
#

Selling ps2 with shungite attachment to block 5G starting at 900$ or ps5 trade

potent fossil
#

they'd bite on that too im sure mana

left swift
#

Hell yea time to make some money

ornate cipher
#

Anyone know much about networking?

I just turned on a pc that had been running minecraft servers. But now I can't connect to it using ssh/ftp
There are no problems in the command line and the apache server on it is working properly
The firewall is also not the problem

potent fossil
#

is your ssh server running?

ornate cipher
#

yes

potent fossil
#

So what exactly is happening when you try to connect with ssh

ornate cipher
#

Putty says "Connection refused" which could mean several hundred things

potent fossil
#

Indeed, and how do you know it's not the firewall on the server

ornate cipher
#

I checked the status of iptables and ufw and they both allow ssh and ftp from anywhere

potent fossil
#

and systemctl status ssh is running?

ornate cipher
#

yes

potent fossil
#

is the port 22 in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?

ornate cipher
#

yes

potent fossil
#

Yea I really don't know then

woven otter
potent fossil
#

Windows firewall maybe blocking outgoing ssh

#

I know on my school wifi I can't ssh because they block outgoing ssh, but if you've not got anything like that then I'm out of ideas

ornate cipher
#

I did change the physical network arrangement.
It is as follows:
Modem connects to switch 1. The unreachable computer is connected to switch 1.
Switch 2 is connected to switch 1. My pc is connected to switch 2

Could that be it?

#

afaik this should not be a problem but idk

potent fossil
#

I don't think so, switches just act as passthrough 🤔

ornate cipher
#

yeah

potent fossil
#

Well, I guess it depends on the switch

#

But idk

vernal moth
#

Does it work on localhost?

left swift
#

Its probably the switches

ornate cipher
#

I am trying to connect to it from the same network yes

left swift
#

Try pinging the interface on switch 1 from ur pc

ornate cipher
#

how do i do that

left swift
#

This is all local?

ornate cipher
#

yes

left swift
#

Did open the ports on the switches that you're connecting to

#

And the port from switch to switch

ornate cipher
#

I thought switches didnt have an interface

potent fossil
#

This is officially beyond me but I'ma watch and see what happens

visual egret
#

i thought i clicked on the r/techsupport discord when i saw this

#

lol

ornate cipher
#

could you refer me to them if we cant figure out here. I am looking for such thing

left swift
#

So the interface is the ports on the switch

potent fossil
woven otter
left swift
#

You connect ur pc to switch 2 the port that ur pc is plugged into needs to be open then the port you use to connect to switch 1 is open and the port that is on the server shoud be open

#

Did you configure ur switches

ornate cipher
#

How do i configure a switch

visual egret
#

you can configre those?

ornate cipher
#

google doesnt help me out on that either

potent fossil
#

Dylan...no

left swift
#

You plug into the console port on the back

visual egret
#

i thought you just plug them in and they work

potent fossil
#

Holy fu ck Dylan

cosmic raft
#

lmao

limpid comet
#

lol

dapper nacelle
#

lmao sorry just had to do it

visual egret
cosmic raft
limpid comet
#

incrediible

#

thank you

visual egret
ornate cipher
#

I dont think the problem are the switching so ill be hitting my head everywhere trying to connect these machines on the same switch brb

left swift
#

It would help to know the ips of the switches

visual egret
#

switches have ip's?

left swift
#

Might be able to find out it from a ifconfig

potent fossil
#

I also had no idea switches had IPs

visual egret
#

idk what i got plugged into my servers lol

cosmic raft
#

depends on the switch simple

#

not all switches have ips

left swift
#

If they're on a network

potent fossil
#

i thought unless it's managed it has no IP

#

I'm assuming this dude's switches are unmanaged

visual egret
#

they should port advanced ip scanner to linux

ornate cipher
#

fuck okay so the switch is indeed the problem

left swift
#

Probably just not configured switches

potent fossil
#

f

vernal moth
potent fossil
#

what's the switch model out of curiosity nube

ornate cipher
vernal moth
#

Kash I did that joke before, but worse in every way

#

Just a piece of paper where I wrote on Nintendo

cosmic raft
#

how is that worse

#

a piece of paper saying nintendo?

vernal moth
ornate cipher
cosmic raft
#

yea that switch has no ip :p

potent fossil
#

that's what i thought, unmanaged

visual egret
#

datasheet ^

golden gust
#

I got the one which says NETGEAR on it

potent fossil
#

same \o/

potent fossil
#

kash why are you annoyed

ornate cipher
#

the other switch is a tp-link tl-sg105

visual egret
ornate cipher
#

could you guys help me find a way to get these computers working together like a happy couple

potent fossil
#

@left swift help the lad

visual egret
#

go to the techsupport discord

#

i think pipeitdodevsda can help you with that if hes online there

left swift
#

I'm at work right about to head home in like 30 minutes

potent fossil
#

how dare you have things to do

#

you have duties here

left swift
#

Tragic

cosmic raft
left swift
#

1 sec nube

potent fossil
#

this fucking guy is about to shock the shit out of himself isn't he kash

cosmic raft
#

no lmao

potent fossil
#

That makes me sad

#

He always shocks the shit out of himself

#

Or burns himself

#

Or otherwise hurts himself

cosmic raft
#

earlier in the video yea

#

not where i linked

potent fossil
#

smh

left swift
#

What's the point of using 2 switches in this setup then

#

Did connecting them both to the same switch make you able to reach the server?

#

With both on the same switch can you ping your server or ping your pc from the server?

potent fossil
#

I feel like he went to r/techsupport

left swift
#

Maybe I was too slow :(

potent fossil
#

And you should feel bad

left swift
#

I've only really dealt with Cisco switches and routers and those are managed

#

Thry were fun

visual egret
#

lemme check

#

nope he didnt

left swift
#

He probably plugging random stuff together

woven otter
#

it worked

waxen panther
#

awa

woven otter
#

eww why is it launching server with gui by default

left swift
#

@ornate cipher were you able to ping your servers ip gateway from the pc when you had the 2 switch setup or 1 switch setup

potent fossil
#

that's normal duck

#

you have to specify nogui

cosmic raft
#

--nogui preferred :p

left swift
#

+nonotgui

#

Left in the suspense

woven otter
#

I C. Have to make a choice now

golden gust
#

try a traceroute

#

are you using the LAN address?

ornate cipher
#

the 192.168.178.x address? yes

left swift
#

It does

#

Did you try to ssh now that it's both in the same switch

golden gust
#

and, is that .178 or all the machines?

ornate cipher
#

yeah in the same switch ssh works

left swift
#

Are you using a crossover cable between the 2 switches

ornate cipher
#

a what

#

the switches in setup 1 are connected with an ethernet cable

left swift
#

A cable for 2 like devices

#

Wait your wifi works when its ran through 2 switches

ornate cipher
#

yes

#

the wifi is the whole point why im using the switch 2

left swift
#

Is there not enough ports for 1 switch?

ornate cipher
#

theyre in seperate rooms

left swift
#

I'm thinking it's just the cable or maybe since the switches are from 2 different ppl

ornate cipher
#

what's that last thing you mean

potent fossil
#

one is dlink and one is tplink but that shouldn't really matter