wtf do you call them
#general
viral hornet
waxen panther
michael 
quasi valley
so he's just gonna fill his alc addiction 
waxen panther
I’m going to a house viewing now 😳
twin lagoon
liquor store
cosmic raft
@viral hornet not well enough to read and write it completely, but I am learning it :p
viral hornet
Flaschegeschäft?
cosmic raft
so I know some of what it says, some I translated
viral hornet
I really like german
twin lagoon
don't
viral hornet
and kenny said I'm good at it
viral hornet
so I feel HONOURED
quasi valley
can confirm
wide chasm
één says hello
viral hornet
the Dutch lady I worked with was much nicer than the german one at my last job heh
waxen panther
Private Dutch lessons with micael? 😳
viral hornet
She used to make cake 🥺
cosmic raft
the best thing is, I use a german keyboard too, so I can easily type letters too
viral hornet
no
cosmic raft
ßßßßßßßßßßßß
viral hornet
🅱️
wide chasm
I learned all the alt codes for German characters by head
twin lagoon
stef you landverrader
wide chasm
Because five years of school
twin lagoon
wide chasm
lol
quasi valley
but do you have ẞ
viral hornet
Michael if you would actually voice chat with me, I would learn with you 🥺
but you don't voice chat
kenny does 🥺
twin lagoon
🥺
waxen panther
I can barely use the normal keyboard 😎
cosmic raft
I die whenever I need to use my laptop or other people's keyboards
z and y are switched, etc
twin lagoon
yes but you are weird kashike
when are you moving to the EU
so you can take full potential of your germanness
quasi valley
when is Canada joining the EU tho
worn ember
azerty gang rise up
waxen panther
when am I going to get a Norwegian passport
twin lagoon
cricket noises
worn ember
true
worn ember
i think only france and belgium use azerty
viral hornet
guys
when moving from maven to gradle, shouldn't the initial gradle init convert the POM okay?
golden gust
afaik there was no auto conversion
mossy vessel
It only converts what it knows about.
golden gust
and some general stuff, like, e.g. shade, likely ain't considered I'd imagine
oh, nice, but, I wouldn't rely on it
cosmic raft
It converts some things
But some it just can't even try to because it's so different
viral hornet
I had thought I did set up the build.gradle correctly, but I can't add the run configurations: https://i.imgur.com/w8ndKoX.png
untold copper
NEW KEYBOARD JUST DROPPED BOIS :D
golden gust
You're modifying the templates there, don't do that
add button in the top corner to add new configs
But, IJ detecting gradle projects is a bit shaky
mossy vessel
If you set it up properly and open it on the next time, it asks you whether to import it or not. Haven't had issues with the detection for a long time
viral hornet
worn ember
just stay with maven kappa
viral hornet
What did you get?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Keyboard-Dedicated-Controls-Spill-Resistant/dp/B01K48R5V4 -- Logitech G213 Gaming Keyboard with Dedicated ... -...: "Product description. G213 Prodigy is a performance driven wired Logitech keyboard designed for gamers of all levels. Slim, durable, precise, and..."
mossy vessel
If you have issues with your file, we will happily take a look at 
untold copper
uwu
viral hornet
Ah okay, I wiped the manual setting I done (in the configs cat pointed out) and restarted IntelliJ
It gave me the option to import, so done that, and am now fixing compile errors
golden gust
huggles his apple keyboard
viral hornet
🤞
golden gust
I mean, I kinda wanted to toy with a mechanic keyboard, but, getting one for a mac is a PITA
As soon as you do that, the amount of cash you gotta invest skyrockets
worn ember
how ironic
viral hornet
Execution failed for task ':processResources'.
Could not copy file '...\AChop\src\main\resources\config.yml' to '...\AChop\build\resources\main\config.yml'.
java.math.BigDecimal cannot be cast to java.lang.String
Shit like this makes me lost
compiles fine with Maven (no errors in the code, atleast), just moving to Gradle for sake of consistency and Maven giving trouble
ha ha issues can't compile now
🤯
twin lagoon
camm do you know java
mossy vessel
Why do you copy the file one folder up?
twin lagoon
🥺
viral hornet
very little @twin lagoon, I've been going okay at what I've been doing & changing
but larger changes like this I should really leave to the pros 😅
mossy vessel
tasks.named<Copy>("processResources") {
filesMatching("config.yml")
}
golden gust
Jus coz be fun 2 watch u cry
viral hornet
cat why do you be mean like this
golden gust
would you rather I be super lovey dovey and nice?
viral hornet
@mossy vessel I wasn't ignoring your question btw, trying to answer it heh
golden gust
it gets wierd, fast
cosmic raft
uwu
mossy vessel
nw lul
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@viral hornet awa
viral hornet
@minor badge 
twin lagoon
uwu
viral hornet
pics of place when
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im saying good bye to my friends
viral hornet
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quasi valley
mossy vessel
viral hornet
i think
I should go to the bottleo now
before it closes
and I have no whisky or gin or cider or anything
viral hornet
bottleo
viral hornet
Haha yessir we do
twin lagoon
fascinating
viral hornet
They're very convenient
potent fossil
texas has drive-through convenience stores
warm anchor
Those are awesome
twin lagoon
like wtf
worn ember
"hello i'm a drive in alcoholic"
waxen panther
🥺
potent fossil
fair dinkum mate WOAH dingo ate my babeh ehhh throw a shrimp on the barbey for me won't ya cunt?
viral hornet
WOAH
no
babeh
no
ehhh
no
shrimp
never
barbey
barbie*
potent fossil
fair dinkum
viral hornet
correct
twin lagoon
what the fuck is a fair dinkum
viral hornet
uhhh
like
omg Idk how to translate this hahaha
used to emphasize that something is real or true, or to ask whether it is. It's a fair dinkum Aussie wedding. 'Burt's just told me he's packing up in a month. ' 'Fair dinkum? '
potent fossil
It's a fair dinkum problematic phrase to describe
viral hornet
& feral cats everywhere
vestal jasper
Weeeee
golden gust
*food for the sneks
viral hornet
gm vic
vestal jasper
Rude
golden gust
hope you kick the curb
vestal jasper
They will
golden gust
Probs
golden gust
but, I have my glasses on 😦
potent fossil
sprays cat with a water bottle twice
golden gust
ur grils
potent fossil
We don't have rugs sir
golden gust
Not sure I wanted to know your landscaping status
potent fossil
I'm happy to oblige
potent fossil
Mfw cat threatened to piss and shit in someone's "rug"
that rug
Cat, that's a bit kinky
I'm sure someone's into that anyway bedtime for real now
left swift
Well then
twin lagoon
clicky 
waxen panther
What did you end up getting
untold copper
yes uwu
waxen panther
I hope you didn't get another membrane
twin lagoon
membrane isn't clicky
waxen panther
You have no idea what a real click is
twin lagoon
probably just means tactile
waxen panther
You should've just waited a couple months and gotten a real keyboard smh
twin lagoon
brocc 🥺
waxen panther
🥺 
untold copper
in a couple months grandma would have done and i would have gotten nothing XD
limber knotBOT
who needs clicky if brown switches exist smh
limpid comet
^
though my latest keyboard is reds and reds are pog
wish i got speed silvers tho
twin lagoon
twin lagoon
browns
waxen panther
What do you have michael
twin lagoon
i have kailh box reds right now and a keyboard with lubed gateron silent ink blacks
limpid comet
astroglide?
twin lagoon
ink blacks are too heavy for my likings and i messed up the lube job on that
waxen panther
I have some ink blacks on order
waxen panther
Yea, I quite type heavily anyway
twin lagoon
yes so do i
untold copper
The reason I bought a membrane was because there was no half decent mechanical within my budget and that had a decent brand name
waxen panther
cheap mechanical >>>>>>>> brand name membrane
twin lagoon
you don't need a decent brand name
untold copper
last time i did that it went boom within 7 months
twin lagoon
hell i type on a $60 china board
waxen panther
my keyboard is a no name keyboard too ^^
untold copper
golden gust
these days you're paying for the name over quality
I just poured lighter fluid into my mouse other day to stop it double clicking.. I've had this thing coming on 5 years, and stopped using it for a while as it was double clicking until I fixed it other month with the same trick
had another mouse which also had some issues where it wouldn't click
guess my fix for that :L
mossy vessel
That is a weird solution for an odd issue.
golden gust
So, basically, I got a mouse ftom HP, it lasted like just over a year, so I grabbed a new one as it was basically either that or the one with the scrolly ball thing, and I figured, looks nice, but, not sure I'd love using it for games and such, so, grabbed another one, which failed after like another year, so went through their support, who told me it might be a macOS issue, because, you know... They ended up sending me a mouse which was like double the price of what I'd bought
golden gust
lighter fluid is just good for cleaning up crap
golden gust
I did originally take the switch apart to clean it, but this time I just soaked it :L
twin lagoon
if it's a common issue you've just got a bad apple or you keep buying bad mice
limber knotBOT
yeah, never had that issue with logitech mice lol
untold copper
Sadly most ppl don't buy "proper" mouse XD
twin lagoon
eh
golden gust
See, I gotta buy a mouse online if I wanna pick a brand, but then it's like, tryna judge what mouse to get, etc
limber knotBOT
the only things that ever "broke" for me with logitech: their wheels got annoyingly wobbly and their plastic/rubber stuff started to wear off
golden gust
kinda wish there was a store which was decently stocked with mice so I could actually compare a few to pick one
untold copper
yea same there's no store like that in India :(
golden gust
There's like a rubber pad on the side of this mouse
untold copper
isn't that called a grip lol
golden gust
the gunk which was holding it literally started melting away and seeping out the first supper it endured...
Yea
mossy vessel
o my new mouse just arrived
golden gust
*summer
mossy vessel
but I didn't open the door for the amazon man lol
untold copper
the gunk which was holding it literally started melting away and seeping out the...
oh damn
disgustinG
untold copper
but I didn't open the door for the amazon man lol
lmao why XD
golden gust
Was a fun surprise...
untold copper
I bet it was 😂
huh
Got this MUN tomorrow
Economic Affairs Committee (AU) MOVE UP
Stimulating intra-African Trade to combat Economic Neo-Colonialism
mossy vessel
Why would I?
left swift
Logitech g pro
mossy vessel
They put it down anyway
untold copper
here they just go back XD
mossy vessel
Spares them a few seconds which means a lot to them
twin lagoon
they'll just deliver it to the neighbours here
twin lagoon
mossy vessel
I used to deliver for dhl back in 2018/2019 during xmas, houses where we can put down parcels are loved by everyone
untold copper
and then the guard just hands it over when you're back
limber knotBOT
in germany they only have a pre-set selection of deposit places... and none of them match my house lmao
meanwhile DHL just has an input field where you can say whatever
mossy vessel
People used to fill in very odd places
twin lagoon
DHL Express gives you a lot of choice on what to do with the package
waxen panther
🥺
golden gust
Over here there is sorta like a parcel collection scheme where they dump it off at a local convenience store or post office
limber knotBOT
kinda hate that amazon is using their own drivers now due to that as they tend to ring my bell when I'm still sleeping -.-
mossy vessel
Had this weird fellow who wanted to put it at the balcony, but he lives at the 2nd floor
golden gust
Not sure how it's run but most of the companies have one
mossy vessel
golden gust
amazon lockers are nice
waxen panther
the amazon lockers are amazing for returns
golden gust
only used it once for a delivery as it was sorta one of those "i want it but getting deliveries here is a bit sketchy"
untold copper
Had this weird fellow who wanted to put it at the balcony, but he lives at the 2...
Yeet the parcel. Simple.
limber knotBOT
yeah, DHL offered them for ages around here. kinda nice not having to go to a post office to send your packets aspecially with corona lol
untold copper
mossy vessel
Meh, I'd prefer not to.
untold copper
¯_(ツ)_/¯
twin lagoon
nmf 
golden gust
padding doesn't protect what's inside, it just protects the box, generally
mossy vessel
Michele 👀
untold copper
and the box protects whats inside
They keyboard came in 5 layers of packaging no joke XD
mossy vessel
🫖
merry talon
tbh i would rather go to the post office for every package than just have no idea whether or not it will actually be deliverable depending on the carrier they decide to use
sometimes they can get into my building sometimes they can't
its truly a mystery
mossy vessel
That's really down to their instructors
I've worked with some who explicitly didn't want us to do that and others who didn't bother when we rang all doors just to get into the house 
merry talon
wide chasm
Yes, switch to Windows 7 /s
untold copper
Windows 7 was gr8, but I just can't get over how neat Windows 10 is tho lol
twin lagoon
was yes
twin lagoon
not really
untold copper
sure, its oooold
twin lagoon
outdated UI, no support for latest directx
untold copper
but I still like it
twin lagoon
lack of hardware support now
twin lagoon
probably will happen next year
they've got a UI redesign planned
and they've removed more and more parts of control center with the latest october update
untold copper
how much does windows 10 cost 
twin lagoon
it's free if you upgrade
twin lagoon
yes
wide chasm
I still prefer Windows 7 over Windows 10, but sadly 7 is no longer supported.
left swift
Vista for sale only 100.99$
left swift
Pirates arrg
twin lagoon
yeah that's just dumb
better off genning your HWID
might aswell just pirate it then
untold copper
Uh
left swift
Run an offline mode 1.8 anarchy factions server on my recycled pc from school using windows 10 I got off the internet for free and charge people 50$ a month for priority queue to a 5 slot server
twin lagoon
si
untold copper
ohk lol
left swift
I bought an OEM windows 7 on amazon for 100$ in 2016 and upgraded to windows 10 as soon as it was available when it first came out
Windows 10 > 7
cosmic raft
No piracy discussions, please.
twin lagoon
8.1 was great
twin lagoon
yes
cosmic raft
yes
golden gust
7 was actually nice
twin lagoon
yes
cosmic raft
never was a fan of 7
left swift
7 was actually nice
Stockholm syndrome
cosmic raft
it was better than vista at least
cosmic raft
10 is good
wide chasm
10 is meh
golden gust
I feel that the performance of windows has just sunk over the years
if xp was still supported, I'd be dualbooting with that vs 10
wide chasm
windows
performance
cosmic raft
I mean, I can't really feel anything
left swift
Frostbite?
cosmic raft
but I'm on a Ryzen 3700X and 64GB of RAM
golden gust
I notice stuff like input lag in visual studio vs notepad, etc
cosmic raft
so that probably helps
golden gust
It's, like.. :L
left swift
Yes
golden gust
But, I've never had like super top end hardware, made a good build for my mate and even that was clunky, but that was like a year or so before SSDs started to drop in price significantly
I think that it's getting better in some aspects but I rarely use it bar the odd game here and there
Stuff like the control panel being split up between two apps is just moronic
left swift
Most of the windows 10 store/apps features are the worst
austere ivy
(one of) my biggest issue with windows https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/770626406941851648/770627838142447626/unknown.png
wide chasm
Search is slow
left swift
The search bar is nice kn windows 10
wide chasm
And like, good luck remembering the name of the exact setting you're looking for
austere ivy
I can’t imagine the level of bloat and repetition behind the scenes to get that level of inconsistency
golden gust
Yea, the issue is that there is like, several dozen systems all doing the same thing
austere ivy
they’re all inconsistent and kept up to date from legacy years. there’s like 3 settings apps, they keep overhauling some apps’ looks and not overhauling others, it’s a mess for usability
limpid comet
windows is not intuitive at all
golden gust
Like, there is no one singular impl of the right click menu, hence why different apps have a different context menu
wide chasm
But no matter whether you're on Windows 7, 8 or 10, we all get Edge shoved down our throat
golden gust
I mean, yea
limpid comet
new edge is just chrome
left swift
I dont think I've ever paid attention to them but then again I dont use mail app, outlook, or windows edge
austere ivy
mac is going in the same inconsistent direction too, though, so I won’t praise them either
golden gust
They forked chrome...
left swift
I also have a set theme on my desktop
golden gust
mac did some consistency stuff in the latest release
wide chasm
Nor have an installation that can't be exited
golden gust
They're far from perfect, but, they slowly go in the right direction, generally
wide chasm
If they didn't present Edge as malware I might have given it a try
austere ivy
fun fact, unless you specifically disabled or uninstalled it, if you’re running windows 10 you have candy crush saga installed on your computer right now :)
limpid comet
pretty sure everyone ever has uninstalled it
i use shut up windows 10
idk if that one is still the cool one
austere ivy
does it not do a Skype thing and keep reinstalling itself?
left swift
No
limpid comet
i've never had it reinstall
LTSC usually fixes those problems for me
actually rn i think this isn't an LTSC install
austere ivy
putting up with that in the first place is insane though, so I’ve vowed never to use windows on my own computers. (at least not as a main boot)
limpid comet
i never had anything broken
though i'm not really a "windows" power user
though i only really missed the windows 10 -> samsung phone linking
limpid comet
i cbf to set up a linux install
golden gust
I mean, I had to uninstall the wifi drivers on all of the windows machines in my student house in 2nd year of uni
limpid comet
everything is already on windows
wide chasm
I might setup a basic Linux installation cause Windows is just becoming worse and worse every time
golden gust
Literally everybody ended up having some update which broke their wifi drivers, so had to uninstall them so they could connect to the internet
waxen panther
i dont use it but linux mints setup is even easier than windows' if you're looking for a distro
austere ivy
never gamed on Windows (I don’t even have a windows computer capable of playing almost literally any game) so I don’t really know what I’m missing lol
wide chasm
Will keep that in mind broccolai
limpid comet
i think i have ubuntu on this laptop? but i'd rather reinstall since i havent touched that in decades
i want something that boots in 4 seconds brocc find me a distro
or instantly
left swift
Windows 10
limpid comet
austere ivy
i want something that boots in 4 seconds brocc find me a distro
it’s called an ssd :)
left swift
Get a better one
austere ivy
well maybe don’t use windo- .. yeah
waxen panther
windows start up is slow zzz
limpid comet
startup took 9 seconds last time
golden gust
wait
limpid comet
though tbf i never fucking restart windows
golden gust
you guys turn your computer off?
limpid comet
no
waxen panther
😔
austere ivy
used to not
wide chasm
Yes
limpid comet
unless i'm moving my laptop somewhere
left swift
windows start up is slow zzz
"Windows takes 3 seconds longer to boot than this barebones linux distro"
wide chasm
My laptop is always on though
waxen panther
thats 3 seconds you could be GAMING
austere ivy
then I setup my laptop as kind of a pc and now I do, just to get in the habit for once I actually get a real pc
golden gust
power usage in sleep mode is hardly worth talking about, so I just prefer to sleep than actually do a full shutdown
austere ivy
thats 3 seconds you could be GAMING
that’s 3 seconds you could be spending waiting for steam to update :^)
waxen panther
i'll do a speedtest for startup of my linux install vs my windows install later
golden gust
not to mention, it allows maintenance tasks to run, which helps the system run
limpid comet
but how better
golden gust
depends
waxen panther
idk i only have linux on my pc
golden gust
some machines power management is bullshit
some machines linux is an easy win for battery life
limpid comet
i mean i have a gaming laptop so it's probably gonna be shit either way lol
waxen panther
there are some good linux packages for battery management
limpid comet
i don't think i've unplugged it in a few months
yeah i have an nvidia gpu, are those still fucked on linux
waxen panther
unless you're running something really fuckin abstract you'll be fine
i have an nvidia gpu
its okay
limpid comet
see the problem with linux is whenever i install it i have too many options so i spent 5 years going through the various DE/WMs to find something nice
and by then i've lost all interest in doing something productive so i just switch to windows
waxen panther
the main problem is their official drivers are closed source and the open source alternative isn't very good
viral hornet
@waxen panther 
waxen panther
🥺
limpid comet
brocc what de do u use
waxen panther
I'll probably get an amd gpu next
austere ivy
<@264203519806930944> <:pleahaw:769252003410477059>
I saw the name “camm” pop up for typing and I instantly knew it’d be simpin for brocc
limpid comet
either you or camm had a super nice setup
austere ivy
forgive me for my lack of knowledge but, isn’t linux the one which handles drivers? if so, shouldn’t it not matter what distro you use for nvidia cards or graphics cards or whatever?
left swift
Oh god are linux mains the vegans of the OS world? Did they overtake macOS mains?
waxen panther
there are more lightweight alternatives than openbox but I am comfortable ricing it
golden gust
the kernel has built-in modules set at compile time
waxen panther
love u camm
viral hornet
Love u 2 brocc
golden gust
like, you could create a kernel which just has support for the hardware you actually have, etc
twin lagoon
you should not use manjaro
waxen panther
manjaro is fine if you're not comfortable with raw arch
golden gust
Other modules are on the hdd itself, e.g. you'd have a prop. kernel module for the GPU, that'll be loaded into the kernel later on vs being baked in
limpid comet
isn't popos the gaming distro
austere ivy
guis suck anyway, just use a cli server distro :^)
golden gust
Not really "gaming", it was system76's OS iirc
limpid comet
honestly my plan is to get ubuntu server and install a wm on that
waxen panther
ew
austere ivy
Other modules are on the hdd itself, e.g. you'd have a prop. kernel module for t...
so are some distros overriding linux’s drivers or am I understanding this wrong?
limpid comet
debian has older packages
golden gust
They're not overriding
They just have different modules installed
many kernel modules aren't loaded until later on
austere ivy
ohhh, okay that makes sense.
golden gust
you'll generally only really have the ones you need super early baked into the kernel itself or the initfs
austere ivy
so some distros omit a lot of modules for more light-weight-i-ness?
golden gust
stuff like the kernel module for your webcam doesn't need to be loaded the instant the OS boots, not to mention the number of webcams, the # of loaded drivers owuld be crazy...
limpid comet
my biggest fear, if i were switch to linux, would be not having access to sharex :c
sharex is so pog
golden gust
There are alternatives for linux which are just as nice
austere ivy
that’s basically the only thing I’m missing here on mac :(
golden gust
Not sure what I'd recommend though
austere ivy
mac2imgur is nice though
golden gust
I used to use liteshot, but their site went crap
untold copper
lightshot?
golden gust
was gonna see if I could hijack it to upload it to my own server
untold copper
that screenie thing?
golden gust
Yea, lightshot
limpid comet
https://github.com/Francesco149/sharenix
apparently this exists
golden gust
Then there was another one which was really nice, but then they wanted like 100£ to be able to upload to your own server
austere ivy
I saw *nix and thought it’d be compatible for Mac too.. it’s not :(
limpid comet
nothing is ever compatible with mac
austere ivy
except everything on the App Store.... which I don’t think anyone really uses lol
now I’ve got to go through it for an adblock, though. safari 14(?) removed support for regular extensions, now you gotta download all extensions from the app store and it comes in an actual app form and I really hate it tbh
limpid comet
ublock origin?
austere ivy
I still use safari because apple’s password manager is sweeet and I don’t really have the money to selfhost or pay for another one
yeah they got rid of that
limpid comet
yep putting that on my list of reasons why i'm never using an apple product
btw https://github.com/flameshot-org/flameshot looks awesome
austere ivy
theoretically the devs could put it on the app store, but I’m pretty sure I heard that they said they don’t want to deal with all of apple’s fees
($100 a year I think)
limpid comet
yes it is
austere ivy
also will check that out, thanks
limpid comet
how is flameshot a better photo editing tool than gimp
austere ivy
wait it’s also not mac >:(
austere ivy
I want to like gimp so much but ... it’s such a pain to use sometimes
it handles some things so weirdly
twin lagoon
it's in the aur
austere ivy
you’ve got krita and gimp
waxen panther
dont use snaps 🤚
limpid comet
yeah i know snaps are fucked
waxen panther
snaps r anti-linux
limpid comet
i could make a windows vm
austere ivy
gimp sucks at actually drawing, krita sucks at anything but drawing. have fun trying to design anything with text and drawing lol
limpid comet
windows vm for photoshop? i'm in
austere ivy
krita legit crashes 50% of the time you try to use its text tool
limpid comet
running windows 7? i'm in
austere ivy
also photoshop sucks anyway and is bad and I hate it :)
austere ivy
yeah it’s objectively kinda the best at anything but adobe reeeally sucks
waxen panther
👀
austere ivy
possibly one of the only times I actively encourage piracy is for adobe’s products. (for legal reasons, that’s a joke. this statement was of my own opinion and not of my employer’s)
limpid comet
ok so i'm fairly certain today i'm going to install linux on my laptop now
i need to back everything up first
wheres that bitch of a harddrive
golden gust
flameshot supports macOS
austere ivy
oh it does? then I’ll re-look into it once I have the time. thank you
limpid comet
question
can i install ubuntu without all the extra bullshit like desktop environments and shit
twin lagoon
yes it's called ubuntu minimal / server
worn ember
hahaha ubuntu
worn ember
lmao
austere ivy
what’s the hate with ubuntu for?
twin lagoon
snapd
limpid comet
probably cuz canoncical bad
twin lagoon
slight changes in how it works that i just don't like
sand epoch
btw, progress on porting lwjgl to apple silicon: https://github.com/LWJGL/lwjgl3/issues/601
twin lagoon
like tab completion does not work for certain applications and it's annoying
worn ember
idk, maybe the fact i couldn't even get ubuntu to boot once
golden gust
ubuntu is more babyish
twin lagoon
or glob doesn't work in apt
worn ember
any other distro worked fine
sand epoch
did it yell at you about intel RST?
limpid comet
should i just learn something like arch
i've always used debian or debian-based distros me whole life
worn ember
something something gpu issues
austere ivy
what made ubuntu “better” than debian in the first place? (why did people use it more?)
sand epoch
rip
golden gust
anything you can do on debian you can do on ubuntu, just, they have different goals sometimes, so might need to install extra stuff on one or the other
twin lagoon
handholding / tutorials
golden gust
Canonical
twin lagoon
and popular desktop choice
twin lagoon
it doesn't no
sand epoch
at one point they tried to serve ads in the launcher
canonical has a bit of a bad rep
twin lagoon
ubuntu has had deals with manufacturers to put it on laptops aswell
sand epoch
but otherwise it's fine
worn ember
paper commercial support wen?
austere ivy
at one point they tried to serve ads in the launcher
I still get ads on ubuntu server for their kubernetes services
sand epoch
welp
austere ivy
is that how you spell it?
sand epoch
i think you can delete that one tho
worn ember
are you even allowed to monetize linux distro's? no right?
austere ivy
then again, haven’t booted that up in a while so the backlash might’ve prompted them to remove it
austere ivy
what’s linux’s license anyway?
twin lagoon
depends on what part of linux
sand epoch
nobody's sued canonical yet
golden gust
not really a suable over thing unless you can get them on some form of privacy regulation, etc
(well, IANAL,and, ^ AFAIK)
sand epoch
it's probably fine 😅
vernal moth
Tfw you wanna buy a t-shirt, but forgot that today is black friday
Screw all those idiots
wide chasm
I pity you
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@cunning raft 😳
worn ember
i could probably move those filters to a method too but too lazy
waxen panther
ah yes nothing like calling minimessage get each time
worn ember
you ok?
worn ember
wow
waxen panther
lmao
worn ember
does it create a new instance of minimessage every get call or something?
waxen panther
no
vernal moth
why's that relevant?
Well, spend 10 minutes finding a parking spot for example 😂
waxen panther
iz ugly though imo do not like
vernal moth
And there are way to many ppl here
worn ember
oh yeah, well all stores here are closed so not an issue here
wide chasm
going to physical stores to buy stuff
worn ember
clearly
worn ember
a parser would be smarter
wym parser? isn't this essentially a giant parser?
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i meant a method
golden gust
ITT: Proxi has a stroke
waxen panther
but look at proxis new avatar 😔
worn ember
oh, yeah inside a method
waxen panther
so cute 😔 😔 😔
worn ember
looks like a albino with a shirt
also big weeb
now i gotta make a website to download addons from 
limpid comet
what ide/whateverthefuck do people use to write node.js code nowadays
ashen cliff
Nano.
warm anchor
Lol
waxen panther
vscode or webstorm
twin lagoon
webstorm / visual studio code
waxen panther
love u michael
twin lagoon
brocc 
waxen panther
limpid comet
how do people still use vscode
waxen panther
wdym
limpid comet
i hate it so much
limpid comet
idk man
i used it for a real long time
i hated every moment of that real long time
waxen panther
that's just the effect of js ;)
austere ivy
I like it as a medium weight text editor
limpid comet
if you're just editing text why wouldn't you jhust use notepad
austere ivy
For files too important for textedit, but not important enough to justify booting up IntelliJ or whatever
Because it doesn’t have limit N
Minting
limpid comet
what
worn ember
vs docker support 
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@limpid comet use coc.nvim :)
worn ember
proxi loves coc.nvim
limpid comet
vim sounds cool
waxen panther
proxi is too much of a poweruser for us motals bluely, ignore her
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w t f
limpid comet
19 minutes until my documents folder compresses
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toxic
waxen panther
love u
limpid comet
can linux read ntfs partitions
minor badge
yes
spiral robin
Gm
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ntfs-3g
spiral robin
Pog blue
limpid comet
im installing linux today
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hi aberdeener
waxen panther
pog aber
limpid comet
i haven't decided what distro actually
spiral robin
Hai proxi
limpid comet
i guess just debian
waxen panther
void
spiral robin
pog brocc 😳
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void linux .
waxen panther
😳 
spiral robin
austere ivy
trivia night with brian: how many ducks does brian own?
- the answer is 2
so to address your gif, aberdeener, yes I have done that to ducks, and yes it is very fun, and yes they are your own personal militia able to harass whomever you want
waxen panther
what am i reading
worn ember
no clue
cunning raft
<@!194473148161327104> 😳
wa proxi
twin lagoon
k
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@cunning raft look at his code
left swift
You do
spiral robin
Ok
limpid comet
should i unironically install gentoo
spiral robin
Install Hannah Montana Linux
waxen panther
unless you're ready to spend the next month reading the wiki no blue
limpid comet
but
efficnecy
vrooom
honestly might go with arhc
i don't really game
but afaik arch is more performant than like debian yeah
OH HOF HELP
I PUT 7Z ON 24 THREADS AND EVERYHTING IS DYING
cloud dawn
Stupid question, how come world compression isn't a thing yet, especially for massive pregened worlds that are 25GB+ large
void void
worlds are compressed
cunning raft
is none mikro :/
void void
using zlib
limpid comet
with like a 400 year old compression library
twin lagoon
just get a prepaid sim or use those sim verification sites meant for game cheaters
cloud dawn
Should be a plugin where it does "intelligent compression"
void void
yeaaah
cloud dawn
So compress chunks rarely visited
limpid comet
chunks are already compressed tho
and that would make them load slower
we don't need that
void void
nolsen, region files are already compressed - but not with very efficient algorithm
cloud dawn
All 5 of my server worlds on one server itself is almost 100GB
void void
to avoid dumbusers corrupt their worlds, better solutions cannot be used
what if you want to hop back on spigot or vanilla one day?
limpid comet
oooooh good point
cloud dawn
Make a warning
cloud dawn
Make the compression an optional setting
spiral robin
12 year olds who run servers: reading 
cloud dawn
And if they screw that up
void void
that's literally the reason why zstd PR sits open and probably won't ever be merged
cloud dawn
Then that's their fault
void void
dude look
cloud dawn
Not the developers
void void
dumbusers don't care
limpid comet
nolsen they have their reasonings
cloud dawn
Neither should the devs
limpid comet
you aren't a part of the paper team so you might not understand them
void void
they blame anyone else besides themselves
limpid comet
but they definitely know more about this than you or I
void void
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/4715 there's an effort for this yeah
but you're better off making a fork and merging this in yourself
cloud dawn
I forgot that it may conflict with some plugins
worn ember
imagine not using yatopia
limpid comet
doesn't even have to be a plugin, there are many tools that interact with worlds
heh yeah if you use yatopia you don't even need to worry about having a world
vernal moth
It doesn't conflict with plugins
But if you use that, you can never go back to spigot
cloud dawn
Never planned to anyways
limpid comet
ᵐᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵇᵉ ᵃ ᵍᵒᵒᵈ ᵗʰᶦⁿᵍ
worn ember
isnt that already the case anyway?
void void
...or use any existing 3rd party tools to process worlds
vernal moth
Which is why it's not merged yet, we want a way to break the world so much that it just crashes spigot
cloud dawn
An optional setting that you have to manually turn on
vernal moth
So that you don't break your world on accident
cloud dawn
With a warning telling you that you cannot go back once set
worn ember
ah yes let me accidentally switch from paper to spigot lol
vernal moth
Yeah something like that, but yeah, ppl are dum
vernal moth
We also talked with mojang about this so maybe that will lead somewhere
worn ember
tbh i'm sure someone will manage to do it
mossy vessel
Merge that after v1 is gone so it doesn't violate their auto updaters
worn ember
if they dont like change they can stick to spigot tho
waxen panther
Not if they have more than 10 players
cloud dawn
My idea of compression is have the rarely visited areas compressed the most, while most common areas like spawn the least compressed
void void
that gets tricky
worn ember
and how would you determine which area's that are?
cloud dawn
Player count I guess
Or count how many players interact in that area
Within a certain timeframe
worn ember
chunk compression based on machinelearning algorithms, now thats something to make the kids drool
and is map size that big of an issue anyway?
we have terrabytes of storage these days
spiral robin
Keep in mind most people's servers are crappy shared hosts with 10gb storage
spiral robin
For how much?
spiral robin
40 for 8tb is good
cloud dawn
You lose your data
waxen panther
no it's on your data 
cloud dawn
Yeah
visual egret
Anyone know how to use the lunar client API on a 1.16.4 server w/ protocolsupport
waxen panther
my internet is slow today 😔
cloud dawn
Unless you have a RAID 5 or 10 config
worn ember
ur brain is always slow
limpid comet
im compressing 5 hours worth of files
limpid comet
its my 431gb user folder
vernal moth
My idea of compression is have the rarely visited areas compressed the most, whi...
Just switching the algo provides speed and space gains
limpid comet
RAID !
worn ember
omg michelle is planning a server raid, ban him
dapper nacelle
dragon guy, do you play league of legends?
waxen panther
no he plays the cringe version
worn ember
just dota
vernal moth
Yeah is not good enough for league
worn ember
i dont like league, too many ragers
waxen panther
Type bad
woven otter
just put compressed worlds in different folder and keep the original one. twice the size but no risk of complete fuck up right?
limpid comet
there's always a risk of complete fuck up
worn ember
compress the compressed file for triple backup
waxen panther
genius
worn ember
it'll break regardless if they implement it or not
vernal moth
Without going into too much detail, mojang was eager to see the patch and the performance metrics
cloud dawn
why would you want 2 * 4TB
In a server you always want redundancy
waxen panther
just the right amount of detail
vernal moth
DeD the idea is that mojang provides support for multiple compression algos
worn ember
Without going into too much detail, mojang was eager to see the patch and the pe...
i would be eager to if people did free labor for me 
vernal moth
In the format
woven otter
there's always a risk of complete fuck up
then you deserve to lose your world
vernal moth
So that it doesn't break so bad
twin lagoon
with 4TB you'd have a bigger chance of getting a disk failure when rebuilding the array with RAID 1
vernal moth
They don't even need to implement the new format
worn ember
i see
cloud dawn
Because of mass pregen that I kinda regret doing
vernal moth
Just a bit abstraction in the offical world format and a algo field and we gucci
cloud dawn
What about OS level compression
Forget minecraft
Use the OS to compress the worlds instead
limpid comet
ill compress you if you don't smarten up
untold copper
😂
cloud dawn
Gotta think outside the box
untold copper
sup bluely xD
left swift
5 worlds for 100gb must be nice
cloud dawn
I never had worlds that large before
worn ember
tbh i've had worlds that are 50+gb
left swift
My overworld is 70gb last I checked on my survival server alone and its not fully pregenned
cloud dawn
An entire minecraft world, there's not enough space in the world to fit one minecraft world
Or time
worn ember
at some point i stress tested rtp and searched a few million locations a minute, so thats a lof chunks