games in general
#general
coarse lily
Howโd you get grounded?
visual egret
id rather not say
coarse lily
Okay.
visual egret
well i can work on it but i cant push it into production...
im just gonna make another branch on github
void void
Hey on what version did MC stopped using item data?
visual egret
it didnt....
visual egret
1.13.2
viral hornet
ashen cliff
The flattening.
mighty storm
take me back to the golden days ๐
woven otter
mini where was your mapping thing
visual egret
the ui feels a bit weird
visual egret
lol
woven otter
ty
tawdry coyote
oh hey there's finally a dark mode option, that's pretty neat
viral hornet
Look atleast he offers dark mode
visual egret
here
woven otter
mini wouldn't it be better to wrap those long ass names at some non word characters
vernal moth
if you can find how to do that, sure ๐
new version will handle that better by inserting wrapping thingies
zealous wedge
well, historically the point was bukkit only mapped what they used, so they could update faster than mcp
limpid comet
but why map at all?
zealous wedge
so the CB impl could be human-readable and mostly stable between updates
limpid comet
oh, stable makes sense
zealous wedge
that of course breaks down once forks exist
vernal moth
spigot mappings are way better than no mappings
at least spigot has most classes mapped
zealous wedge
if you want real almost no mappings experience, go look at hmod
bukkit was a huge improvement over what hmod did
the problem is what was great in 2011 is pretty shit in 2020
and spigot's toolchain is a lot closer to 2011 standards than it is 2020 standards
limpid comet
lol
i assume stuff like paperweight are an attempt to improve that?
(if paperweight is the name of that thing for remapping)
zealous wedge
yeah
since MCP has gotten faster, fabric/yarn exists, and mojmap exists now, there's not much point in spigot maintaining its own mappings, besides historical reasons
zealous wedge
yeah
limpid comet
i forget if i asked this already, but is there a plan down the line to move that to mojang mappings (or something else?)
zealous wedge
for dev time, something like that, but still using spigot mappings at runtime to support existing plugins
limpid comet
i see, cool
vernal moth
quasar
potent fossil
oh, lol
dense spindle
vue ๐คฎ
potent fossil
.kill dicedtomato
limber knotBOT
stabs dicedtomato in the heart a few times with a shard of glass.
limpid comet
wtf vue is incredible
dense spindle
nah
potent fossil
correct
limpid comet
easily best framework, svelte with a close second
dense spindle
rather use react
potent fossil
svelte idk about
limpid comet
react 
vernal moth
react
potent fossil
react is disgusting
vernal moth
dense spindle
imagine not using something just because its made by some big company
limpid comet
no, i don't use something because it's hell
vernal moth
imagine supporting a disgusting company
dense spindle
oh its made by facebook i shall avoid
vernal moth
by doing that, you validate their doing
limpid comet
writing vue requires html+css knowledge with a bit of vue familiarity
potent fossil
imagine wanting to use react with JSX instead of coupled components without any extra dependencies
limpid comet
writing react requires react knowledge
you have to jump through many guides to figure out wtf you're supposed to do
dense spindle
and react anit that hard
potent fossil
react requires you to add a fucking dependency to couple css with your component
limpid comet
^
potent fossil
vernal moth
and yes, JSX is why I will never look at react closely
dense spindle
ok?
limpid comet
yes it's html and css/scss/sass
dense spindle
isnt that literally what react does
potent fossil
no
limpid comet
god no
potent fossil
react uses JSX... ??
limpid comet
it's an abomination
limpid comet
definitely not
vernal moth
its worse in every way
limpid comet
i don't think you've used react enough
potent fossil
you can use JS in vue too, {{ JS }}
dense spindle
well i have used react
limpid comet
vue is html + a bit of js, react is js + a bit of html
ashen cliff
You ever just create custom HTML elements?
dense spindle
using vue is like ๐คฎ
limpid comet
you've given no reason as to why
dense spindle
rather use normal html instead of vue
limpid comet
but ok
potent fossil
but it's better to just add your js into your script and call a method in your template
this guy is deranged
ima ignore now
limpid comet
lol
dense spindle
lol
dense spindle
yes
potent fossil
i dont care if he doesnt like vue, it's that he likes react
limpid comet
i'd rather him like angular over react
limpid comet
because at least we'd know how far gone he is
but when you like react, there's no telling
limpid comet
it needlessly implements their own complicated bullshit
ashen cliff
We just don't like things that actually exist.
limpid comet
what do you think vue is fake
potent fossil
im pretty sure if you update a parent react component that has a bunch of child components, ALL the child components get updated unless you do a lot of shit like listening to callbacks in each and every child and check if it should update or not
whereas vue just...does that for you??????????/
limpid comet
yes i remember hearing something like that
and like
why tf would you ever want css in js
dense spindle
in mostly all react is faster lol
limpid comet
react without any of the bullshit libs to make it usable, yes
but vue does a lot of that stuff for you built in
potent fossil
and still base file sizes smaller
i'd be interested to see react vs vue3
which increased speed pretty crazily
can't find it in there though
limpid comet
yeah weird, you'd think people would have benchmarked vue
potent fossil
v3 might not be GA yet
ashen cliff
People will really benchmark anything.
limpid comet
krusic have you been benchmarked yet
limpid comet
how many thrusts per minute?
ashen cliff
Depends. Just for you, I would do at least 120.
potent fossil
๐
ashen cliff
Simple, maybe like 160?
potent fossil
vernal moth
v3 is GA since a few months iirc
limpid comet
sad, that's a 40tpm difference
twin lagoon
kashike 
cosmic raft
Over 400 tests for the Adventure API alone now
twin lagoon
we have the same prompt
potent fossil
twin lagoon
spaceship 
cosmic raft
woo michael
minor badge
i too use spaceship
waxen panther
nerds
minor badge
the git thing when you cd into void-packages though 
vernal moth
Error while downloading tiny mappings using url https://maven.fabricmc.net/net/fabricmc/yarn/1.16.4%2Bbuild.7/yarn-1.16.4%2Bbuild.7-tiny.gz
org.springframework.web.client.HttpClientErrorException$NotFound: 404 Not Found: [<html>
<head><title>404 Not Found</title></head>
<body bgcolor="white">
<center><h1>404 Not Found</h1></center>
<hr><center>nginx/1.10.3</center>
</body>
</html>
]
whhhhhyhyyyyyyyy
twin lagoon
yarn 
cosmic raft
@vernal moth accept header?
worn ember
ive put my pc into sleepmode twice now and it just doesnt want to wtf
minor badge
worst case scenario, accept *
worn ember
it just turns off the screens
twin lagoon
ask in their discord i guess
acoustic pilot
Maybe try User-Agent too, not sure if Spring web client already sets one.
vernal moth
I am a good boy, I always set user agent
cosmic raft
lol
vernal moth
wait
wtf
setting user agent as default header didnt seem to have worked
I did set it explicitly now and it worked....
thanks
acoustic pilot
Nice!
vernal moth
it didnt
it just ran into another error, thought I got further, but it was just complaining about me trying to override the user agent, lmao
changing rest.execute(url, HttpMethod.GET...... to rest.execute(new URI(url), HttpMethod.GET...... fixed it
guess I ran into a spring bug again
insane how much more yarn has mapped in comparison to spigot
ok actually my merging is off somewhere
heh, looking at yarn vs mojang is fun
but its clear that my merging is wrong somewhere
golden gust
What's fun is cases where the name of the class is obviously given with exceptions inside of it...
e.g. DataWatcher vs TrackedData
vernal moth
net/minecraft/world/entity/TamableAnimal net/minecraft/entity/passive/TameableEntity
DATA_FLAGS_ID TAMEABLE_FLAGS
DATA_OWNERUUID_ID OWNER_UUID
orderedToSit sitting
addAdditionalSaveData (Lnet/minecraft/nbt/CompoundTag;)V b
canAttack (Lnet/minecraft/world/entity/LivingEntity;)Z c
canBeLeashed (Lnet/minecraft/world/entity/player/Player;)Z a
defineSynchedData ()V e
die (Lnet/minecraft/world/damagesource/DamageSource;)V a
getOwner ()Lnet/minecraft/world/entity/Entity; B_
getOwnerUUID ()Ljava/util/UUID; getOwnerUuid
getTeam ()Lnet/minecraft/world/scores/Team; bG
handleEntityEvent (B)V a
isAlliedTo (Lnet/minecraft/world/entity/Entity;)Z r
isOrderedToSit ()Z isSitting
isOwnedBy (Lnet/minecraft/world/entity/LivingEntity;)Z isOwner
isTame ()Z isTamed
readAdditionalSaveData (Lnet/minecraft/nbt/CompoundTag;)V a
reassessTameGoals ()V onTamedChanged
setOrderedToSit (Z)V setSitting
setOwnerUUID (Ljava/util/UUID;)V setOwnerUuid
setTame (Z)V setTamed
spawnTamingParticles (Z)V showEmoteParticle
tame (Lnet/minecraft/world/entity/player/Player;)V setOwner
wantsToAttack (Lnet/minecraft/world/entity/LivingEntity;Lnet/minecraft/world/entity/LivingEntity;)Z canAttackWithOwner
I guess the merging could be right and yarn is missing methods here
oh or its inheritance
smoky python
coarse lily
Hi person I donโt know.
worn ember
Hai Nick. Long time no see
inland stump
Hmm
So I am aware this is the discord for PaperMC, but figured someone here might know something about bungeecord. My proxy appears to be randomly crashing and disconnecting players seemingly out of nowhere.
As of a few minutes ago, it was crashing and disconnecting players every two minutes or so.
Console doesn't show me much other than it stopping, disconnecting players and starting.
Since restarting the proxy manually, no disconnects/crashes have occurred in about 10 minutes.
potent fossil
Or switch to waterfall and see if it keeps happening. If it does, then we can help.
Better yet, switch to Velocity which is better than bungee or waterfall, and ask in their discord if such a thing happens which I doubt.
coarse lily
Havenโt heard of velocity
potent fossil
bungee/waterfall are legacy and the core team will agree with that
velocity is the future
crystal compass
spigot website ded
potent fossil
no it's not
upper flicker
it's throwing a few random 502's every now and again
I just got one, refreshed, and its gone
potent fossil
oh, i must've got lucky then
zealous wedge
you can find him in many places :p
void void
Cracked mode starter pack:
- AuthMe
- GateKeeper
- AntiUUIDSpoof
- SkinsRestorer
- AntiBot
offline-mode=false
viral hornet
Sounds pretty gross
worn pasture
dont forget bootlegged pex v1
potent fossil
lol
potent fossil
r you already drunk
viral hornet
I wish I was already drunk ๐ฆ
potent fossil
i'm blazed I'm as mentally prepared to ow as I can be u down"?
viral hornet
however it's only 12:16PM on monday ๐ฆ
viral hornet
blazed is high
viral hornet
vestal jasper
not crossfaded YET
potent fossil
oh boy
viral hornet
oh simple ๐ฅบ
worn pasture
wtf is bsb
vestal jasper
Brown Sugar Bourbon
worn pasture
other than Bank-State-Branch number
vestal jasper
potent fossil
whats that weird fucking spread you australians eat on toast
vestal jasper
VEGIMITE
vestal jasper
lmao
worn pasture
marmite is better
vestal jasper
ngl bourbon root beer floats are pretty good
coarse lily
I love root beer and I love ice cream but I could never get behind mixing them.
Kinda like swimming and airplanes. Seems like they should just be enjoyed apart.
potent fossil
root beer floats are godly
vestal jasper
^
worn pasture
in australia we just call it beer
golden gust
in england we call it piss water
zealous wedge
life goals right there
zealous wedge
root beer floats are godly
this!!
potent fossil
no
worn pasture
in australian root beer means fuck beer
root = sex, beer also may = sex if you're lucky
so just beer
pseudo pilot
isn't that just equal -1
potent fossil
u wot
worn pasture
-1 sex
potent fossil
worn pasture
coarse lily
Heh I logged into my Minecraft account and my skin was different. :?
Fixed it and changed password but . . . weird.
worn pasture
i've had some weird stuff happen to my account too
lean kiln
lol thats happened to me before
dull linden
F
lean kiln
just change password and move on
i think its because i was using the same password for minecraft since 2011 or something and it was shared with some leak
coarse lily
People email me all the time because they somehow find me email and my account has a Minecon cape.
So I get a lot of "WILL YOU SELL ME YOUR ACCOUNT?!" emails
untold copper
yay maths paper donE
true canyon
I'll pay you 3 cents, before paypal takes their cut, ocelot
coarse lily
mbaxter no
:(
I like my account.
I guess I don't actually give a shit about the cape.
If someone made an actual offer I'd change my username to another account and sell it.
But not for like $50.
potent fossil
I'll give you $51.
vestal jasper
$52
coarse lily
You guys are the worst. :)
potent fossil
I take that as a compliment
coarse lily
This is bad negotiating.
potent fossil
None of the offers have been $50.
coarse lily
This is true.
viral hornet
in australian root beer means fuck beer
๐
potent fossil
vast idol
@lean kiln look lol. sorry its dark, look at full size.
void void
Anyone please suggest me best free bedwars plugin
waxen panther
yes
limpid comet
ill never understand why people want bedwars plugins
there's already many servers with bedwars
why make another
upbeat kelp
Private games?
void void
In other servers other people are also there I want to play with my subs so wanted to create any help
potent fossil
by asking us, all you get us a google search. if it doesn't turn up anything then we can't help you. here you go:
ddg! !spigotmc bedwars plugin
coarse hornetBOT
limpid comet
potent fossil
good job, it got cloudflare'd
limpid comet
i got it simp
limpid comet
surprisingly it's not as an intuitive idea as one you'd think
mental meadow
On that topic: apparently I own a Google scarf for some reason
twin lagoon
awa
mental meadow
awa
twin lagoon
mental meadow
I think I got it for smth but I'm not sure why anymore
But afaik you can order it on their merch store
mossy vessel
Meh any common does it for me ;p
cedar spade
Google has a merch store?
cedar spade
Oh boy love me some YouTube mugs
worn pasture
kinda want this tbh
worn ember
Android body bag
cedar spade
Where you can hide the Apple users after knocking them out
upbeat kelp
Is it nsaw ,nfsw, NSFW
twin lagoon
shut up kenny
upbeat kelp
LoL
quasi valley
michale how can there be so much sass inside of such a small head
upbeat kelp
Bran
twin lagoon
@minor badge pls ban kneny
minor badge
wtf
cedar spade
not fase sor work
wow kneny can't be talking about nfsw stuff in #general can we now
cedar spade
zealous wedge
don't worry, no work happens here
cosmic raft
@zealous wedge why are you awake!!!
quasi valley
the other question is, why are you? 
potent fossil
kashike is cute
cedar spade
oooo
cosmic raft
uwu
twin lagoon
uwu
potent fossil
uwu
cedar spade
uwuy
potent fossil
uwuy
mossy vessel
uwu
potent fossil
if you think about it
uwuy
is uwu with the head slightly turned and the y is the ear
viral hornet
@twin lagoon OR ๐ฅบ
viral hornet
kashike is cute
I second this
potent fossil
fair dinkum 'at is
viral hornet
potent fossil
potent fossil
nop am sober
mossy vessel
It's so cold aaa
cedar spade
yuwuy
worn ember
woven otter
wtf are you weebs up to
cosmic raft
olive marlin
Will the new downloads API be finally fully revealed? Looking at #paper-github :)
cosmic raft
not tonight
but I'm putting up the initial repo so people like @unreal quarry can watch it to see notifications of when it is pushed :)
unreal quarry
olive marlin
You need to put a bit more work. And for many contracts with ISPs it is illegal to host stuff at home, you'd need to read it. But probably won't get noticed unless you start moving a lot of data around or you get DDoSed.
untold copper
is there any DIRECT/Very big disadvantage tho?
mossy vessel
you're paying a large upfront cost for something that will become outdated within a year
you do not have anti-ddos
you likely do not have a business internet line
you likely do not have home security, spare parts laying around to immediately replace broken server parts and you need to pay for those as well
untold copper
you're paying a large upfront cost for something that will become outdated withi...
I'm hosting it on an old pc lol
Im NOT hosting it
but if i did thats what i would host it on
mossy vessel
gl hf
cosmic raft
Ugh my body aches and hurts all over
worn ember
Most home networks don't have a very stable connection either. And upload is usually a lot lower than download. Overal your network Will be your limited factor
cedar spade
oof ๐ฆ
worn ember
i like how my phone put will with a capital
wispy parrot
Anyone got an alternative for Authme/Authme reloaded
limber knotBOT
online-mode=true
wispy parrot
not all my friends have premium
limber knotBOT
it's easy to buy it ๐
limber knotBOT
it's not like the game costs $70 lke any other popular game lol
pastel pivot
Is there a reason why papi doesn't have a %player_list_name% placeholder, or am I missing something?
limber knotBOT
player_displayname?
pastel pivot
isn't that a different one?
limber knotBOT
oh right, they are two different things
they probably just didn't know about that one ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
indigo bone
How much difference does SSD vs HDD give on minecraft hosting?
mossy vessel
There is no reason to use a hdd here
indigo bone
i am not into storages so not much knowledge about that
limber knotBOT
you should have some basic tech knowledge if you want to run a server
but if your world doesn't change often and your players don't load chunks then a HDD will technically still work ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
e.g. I use a second server for my archive and limbo/jail servers
(with an HDD)
((or technically 3 in raid 1 lol))
unreal quarry
i couldnt imagine running an mc server on anything other than nvme
limber knotBOT
my server ran on HDDs for its first 8 years ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
(with a small duration where we used a ram disk for one of the main worlds but not all the time xD)
lofty glen
Where can i find the 1.12.2 version of Paper?
limber knotBOT
only switched to an SSD at the start of this year xD
.downloads
please note that they are completely unsupported though as that page states
lofty glen
https://papermc.io/downloads
That is the 1.16 version
limber knotBOT
please read the full page
unreal quarry
That is the 1.16 version
look closer
mossy vessel
Some people seem to prefer a hdd because it's more affordable but at the price of performance.
pastel pivot
https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/Player-Expansion/pull/38 least effort PR ๐
limber knotBOT
xD
lofty glen
you mean This page?: https://papermc.io/ci/job/Paper/
mossy vessel
I mean, not that I'm any better. I used hdds for personal stuff the past decade.
limber knotBOT
yeah, HDDs work, they just usually aren't snappy if you want to use modern applications that require tons of resources
unreal quarry
i started using ssd around 1.9-1.10, was hdd before that since 1.2.5 - now i've been using nvme for a little over a year and I couldnt imagine going back to ssd or especially hdd
limber knotBOT
no base gnu program will complain about your linux system running on an old hdd xD
lofty glen
Sorry i am stupid, i dont know what Legacy means xD
worn pasture
mossy vessel
i started using ssd around 1.9-1.10, was hdd before that since 1.2.5 - now i've ...
True true, couldn't imagine using a hdd for mc stuff. But for my personal workspace I couldn't bother switching until now
limber knotBOT
I'm finally getting an nvme for my PC this week ๐ป
unreal quarry
you're gonna love it phoenix
i got an evo 970 plus in my personal rig and it changed everything
lol
limber knotBOT
well especially as it's double the size of my current SSD so I can just put everything on there lol
feels like yesterday when I bought my 500GB SSD for more than I'm buying an 1TB nvme now :S
mossy vessel
i got an evo 970 plus in my personal rig and it changed _everything_
same. lol
Plus I got some ram upgrades as well
limber knotBOT
tbh I just wanted to have space for Cyberpunk ๐
mossy vessel
juicy
minor badge
@mossy vessel uwu
unreal quarry
like, even my windows 10 partition boots in under 10 seconds on this nvme ^_^
loading screen in games, a thing of the past
etc
^_^
mossy vessel
@minor badge 
worn pasture
beautiful isn't it
unreal quarry
i bought mine when it was still over $200, but it was well worth the cost
mossy vessel
I can imagine
limber knotBOT
I mean that makes sense if you have a small SSD but a lot of games are just so quick on an SSD lol
gotta love when I can spoil what roles my teammate get in overwatch because they all run it from a hdd xD
minor badge
@mossy vessel hello mr kotlin stan, they did dumb extensions in 1.4.20 with overriding the div op on nio Path: Path("a") / "b.txt"
limber knotBOT
also restarts are fast when GTA V decides to randomly crash again. can't imagine trying to start that from a HDD lol
limber knotBOT
@phoenix616: GTA5 starts slowly because of network and their servers. If the files are in RAM (prefetched) you are limited by CPU (decompression of game data) and then their net impl
yeah well they need to get into ram too
my friends can join online faster if they pre-load into single player that is true. for me it makes zero difference so my only limitation would be the servers, yeah
(but loading into single player isn't fast either for them lol)
void void
Is there any Clan plugin yall recommend?
void void
ClanSystem is shit
Hey everyone! My paper server is really slow, and the TPS is pretty bad with 10 players and 12gb ram allocated to server (like 8 tps). Is there a boilerplate server on github or something I can use where I can just copy over the world and playerdata and it's optimized for high performance?
limber knotBOT
https://github.com/guilds-plugin/Guilds is pretty good last I heard
void void
what
limber knotBOT
Cโarโcrโafโtzโ: use #paper-help and provide your timings there
void void
ok sure
wait wdym by timings
also are you using a webhook? why are you a bot
oh wait this is the irc bridge isn't it
limber knotBOT
yes
void void
kk moving to the help channel
void void
phoenix616 how is your day going lol
slim nymph
Phoenix gta5 on prev gen hdd console is like 1 minute load time
I hear it's decent now on ssd
vernal moth
Ah yes, gotta love creating a new project and then not being allowed to force push
It's always the first thing I do, force push the default readme away on our gitlab ๐
mossy vessel
Meanwhile I'm be like https://gyazo.com/03c149729a97b9f37a99b927ade40ad0
runs
waxen panther
poor city
vernal moth
Yeah, thats what I mean, I always disable that
mossy vessel
I've actually allowed it for certain branches
true canyon
I'm sure somebody on github has a repo where they always amend the first (and only) commit and force push.
quasi valley
mossy vessel
It's not like force pushing is a bad thing per-design. People just often use it wrong.
worn ember
you shouldnt need force to push 
left swift
Force pushing is bad for your body it's better to just let it come out naturally
worn ember
i only do it when i made some significant changes and due to that its rejecting pushes
@left swift i'll force push on your rug
left swift
empty falcon
woven otter
isn't taco outdated
mossy vessel
Taco is dead for years, plus you are asking on the paper discord 
dapper nacelle
tbf in a spigot discord they'd recommend paper
woven otter
use paper since there is paper version for latest minecraft version
mossy vessel
Taco is some ancient stuff attempting to ship optimizations. To my knowledge paper contains the same/better optimizations.
mossy vessel
tbf in a spigot discord they'd recommend paper
Wouldn't surprise me. Paper has the bigger market share for some time now.
argh, forgot to disable this stoopid ping pong
dapper nacelle
:p
woven otter
is md_5 aware
vernal moth
Taco is ded
Pretty sure md is but doesn't care
And I mean, all paper servers still run spigot
woven otter
fair enough
woven otter
yes yes that will change when the hard forking happens
quasi valley
kind of but not reallyโข๏ธ
woven otter
go away kneny
quasi valley
:(
woven otter
u make me sad
quasi valley
):<
woven otter
okay jk ily
quasi valley
cosmic raft
urgh, Java
mossy vessel
yes
cosmic raft
why does Collections.sort not return the collection after
left swift
Yava
olive marlin
Maybe there's Collections.sorted()?
I usually saw sort do it in place, while sorted returns. Though it might be biased by languages I use.
cosmic raft
nope
cedar smelt
Does DiscordSRV cause a lot of resource consumption?
worn ember
nah
vernal moth
I stumbled at that yesterday too, kinda stupid
cosmic raft
yea
now I have:
public static <T> List<T> sorted(final Collection<T> unsorted, final Comparator<T> comparator) {
final List<T> sorted = new ArrayList<>(unsorted);
sorted.sort(comparator);
return sorted;
}
it's an access modifier
untold copper
i see
worn ember
it makes it public
untold copper
so anyone can see dat class?
vernal moth
Wat
worn ember
use
untold copper
or whatever is in there
worn ember
it means you can call it from anywhere in your code
untold copper
huh ok
worn ember
if its private you can only access that method in the same class
left swift
My teacher said if the class is private you need to knock first
void void
damn holographicdisplays
or well - boils down to protocollib
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot use reflection.
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalAccessException: Can not set final net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.Packet field net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.NetworkManager$$Lambda$6569/0x0000000802e152e
0.arg$4 to net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.PacketPlayOutEntityMetadata
i guess it's time to downgrade java version 
mossy vessel
Using 15?
void void
ye
woven otter
mossy vessel
ye it breaks it
vernal moth
Or, yeet holographic displays and do it properly
void void
manually?
mossy vessel
Or 
a fix
woven otter
what's the proper way
void void
manually is quite inconvenient if you ask me
worn ember
Delete it
void void
Or <:pr:740926653147906088> a fix
well i did similar fix to inventivetalent's AnimatedFrames, seems like it broke after updating to java 15.0.1
setting final fields seems like impossible now
worn ember
@void void rtp pr wen
void void
unshit rtp first
worn ember
Lmao
waxen panther
impossible
woven otter
is there a way for protocollib to do it properly then
visual egret
what...
worn ember
It's mostly unshit already :(
visual egret
you dont know an access modifier
void void
what
mossy vessel
well i did similar fix to inventivetalent's AnimatedFrames, seems like it broke ...
Interesting.
woven otter
or ig instrumentation still should work
woven otter
fix ProtocolLib mini
void void
i guess to modify the packet which is already created?
cosmic raft
yea but like
no minecraft packets have final fields unless it is a list or such
so just clear it and add your own
void void
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalAccessException: Can not set final net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.Packet field net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.NetworkManager$$Lambda$6569/0x0000000802e152e 0.arg$4 to net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.PacketPlayOutEntityMetadata
hmmmh
i guess it's time to start digging
void void
Interesting.
cosmic raft
public class PacketPlayOutEntityMetadata implements Packet<PacketListenerPlayOut> {
private int a;
private List<DataWatcher.Item<?>> b;
no final fields
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
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?ban @void void Ads
leaden oxideBOT
Divine KamaKanjiใ#1027 was banned | Ads
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should now be autobanned again ^^
olive marlin
Now I'm confused and not sure if mikroskeem said fuck off to the banned person or kashike.
void void
of course kashike /s 
void void
nice
olive marlin
...
vernal moth
?ban @void void ads
leaden oxideBOT
softwaredev#3592 was banned | ads
void void
field net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.NetworkManager$$Lambda$6581/0x0000000802e31880.arg$4, guess time to pull out the ide now
vernal moth
@minor badge didn't work
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ugh
vernal moth
(check irc for message I guess)
bright night
`field net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R3.NetworkManager$$Lambda$6581/0x0000000802e31...
https://github.com/dmulloy2/ProtocolLib/issues/978#issuecomment-706530043 - has info on how to manually fix
void void
oic
errmmm
it looks up declared fields and constructors every time a packet has to be overwritten
seems like a nice performance hit...
bright night
From my limited understanding of the issue it looks like any sort of fix to this issue would result in a performance hit
limber knotBOT
hmm, I guess not so bad for chunkgen on a 1GB VM? https://timings.aikar.co/?id=024fb28afb944a6488801e54469f0468
also @pop4549 why 50 permits for semaphore? Or was that just a rando value?
.log
acoustic pilot
I got a bit of a weird question... any of you in the US traveled between states with a carry-on pet? ๐
green turret
I told you already I'm not gonna travel with you!
acoustic pilot
Haha
I know different states have different rules for arriving pets, like health certificates and proof of up-to-date vaccination. I'm just curious how this is enforced upon arrival. My experience in domestic flights upon arrival is that you just get off the plane and basically walk out of the airport. Not much in between.
Then you also consider that millions of people travel with pets across state lines by means of road, there aren't any border checkpoints that are like "yeah we need to inspect your pet's documents" lol
vernal moth
Isn't this documented online?
acoustic pilot
The arrival process isn't. The requirements are
vernal moth
Like I know that for example germany has a website where it lists all requirements
Ah
acoustic pilot
It doesn't specifically say how they enforce those requirements for domestic flights.
vernal moth
So you just wondering weather you need to expect a delay and stuff?
acoustic pilot
In international flights there's a mandatory quarantine for pets.
I'm just fishing for peoples' experiences with interstate (domestic) flights and if their documents were inspected upon arrival, and by who.
coarse lily
@acoustic pilot There are zero checks/etc when you drive between states
For pets or anything
The only thing that happens is in CA - there's an agricultural check at the border where they ask if you have any fruits/etc.
acoustic pilot
Yep, of course. That's sorta one of my points. What's interesting is that the rules for bringing pets across state lines apply whether you are traveling by road or air.
coarse lily
But they don't care about your pet.
vernal moth
Wouldn't those checks happen before boarding anyways?
Like, don't you need to do special stuff to board with a pet?
acoustic pilot
There are many airlines that don't have the same requirements as the destination state does. Airlines often leave it up to the state.
So like with Delta and Southwest, no health certificate or any other documents are required to board.
Each destination state has different rules about what kind of documents are needed when bringing a pet into the state.
upper flicker
I did it exactly one time about 6 years ago and no one cared at all
no idea if things have gotten stricter or not
acoustic pilot
But I'm really curious about the enforceability of it. Like if there's someone watching you walk off the plane with a pet and like "Papers, please?" lol
Like mentioned it's completely unenforceable on the road.
upper flicker
absolutely wasnt when I did it, didnt even get a glance from anyone
guess my advice would just be to have some basic documentation ready in case
but I'd be shocked if you were stopped
acoustic pilot
I'm curious because I may be needing to travel but my cat is a senior and very likely that my vet will recommend against rabies immunization (I inherited him and don't have the original documents)
coarse lily
Yeah I don't think anyone checks anything when you stop.
Frankly even for the pandemic stuff when I flew the one time someone asked if I needed a travel form and I said no. I didn't, but if I actually did I could have lied.
upper flicker
I dont know that I've ever seen anything related to state enforcement/customs-esque when flying inter state
coarse lily
So 99% of the work is done upfront when you board.
acoustic pilot
Yeah in my experience there aren't any obstacles between deplaning and walking out of the airport.
For domestic flights
yeah that's what I figured ocelot
Seems like it comes down to the airlines and their specific policies, states be damned.
coarse lily
As a person currently driving three states south, the US generally feels like one big state in that regard.
upper flicker
the TSA did lose their shit at me for having like 4 raspberry pi's in my carry on once
but they're useless so
coarse lily
Ha I've had that happen.
acoustic pilot
Yeah TSA sucks ๐
coarse lily
They're pretty awful. And super inconsistent.
upper flicker
yeah they didnt care on the return flight
acoustic pilot
"We're here to prevent terrorism" also "Stand in these long lines where a terrorist can more easily do the most damage to the most people"
upper flicker
tsa known hilariously bad
big jobs program, security theater
shit, we're getting into politics a bit
acoustic pilot
I just don't wanna risk vaccinating my senior cat if he's not healthy enough for it
coarse lily
But I'd bet cash money no one would give a crap about the state stuff.
acoustic pilot
Rabies vaccinations for cats are known to be risky, too. Being old and in less than optimal health, I'm a bit worried.
upper flicker
maybe if you were at an airport that provided its own security
but that seems to be exceedingly rare
at least post 9/11 now that the TSA handles all of that
acoustic pilot
There's not even any kind of checkpoints between getting off the plane and exiting the airport, that I remember. Just straight to baggage/exit, isn't it?
coarse lily
I'm guessing they might say "Make sure your pet meets requirements" but don't check the paperwork
upper flicker
yes
coarse lily
But you can likely check with the airlines
Yeah
If you have any issue it's gonna be boardig
acoustic pilot
Yeah I already confirmed with Southwest, totally cool with "no pet documentation required to bring carry-on pet, at all"
upper flicker
it is at logan, ohare, la guardia, lax, etc
coarse lily
And frankly even if there WERE a thing, you're off the plane. They aren't gonna turn you around
upper flicker
just right ou the door
acoustic pilot
Well, that's the thing. If this were an international flight and you didn't have the proper documentation, you risk your pet being euthanized too lol
coarse lily
Yikes
acoustic pilot
Obv international is a whole other thing
acoustic pilot
Destination countries set up their own quarantine zones in international airports
upper flicker
as far as Ive ever been able to tell, there is almost no state enforcement when flying domestic in the US
upper flicker
they do not care at all
coarse lily
But yeah I'd bet huge money that they don't care.
acoustic pilot
I even called the destination state's "Chief of Rabies" for their Dept of Health and she had no idea how it's enforced upon arrival and was kinda amused that I brought up the point about millions of people traveling by car with their pets lol
But yeah, was just curious because if my vet says my cat shouldn't be vaccinated, I'm not just gonna leave him behind if I move to another state lol
He's approx 15 or so years old now and has spent the last 10 years knowing only me. That's a level of betrayal I will not commit ๐
void void
seems like a nice performance hit...
besides that, it's also holy shit how brittle
however, i made it less brittle so https://github.com/ZentriaMC/ProtocolLib/commit/c9903b55f81d75f63ab318b78de504f3c0c19c8e
it works quite ok ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Guuuys
Anyone knows a Video editor that allows Transparent images and keeps em formats?
zealous wedge
<@!97139815404810240> why are you awake!!!
I am sleep soon after that!
worn ember
Sleep ๐ค
empty falcon
beep
void void
Petition for discord to remove the ping symbol when someone deletes the message
empty falcon
true
mossy vessel
Imagine having the right to delete your messages
cosmic raft
๐
void void
empty falcon
mossy vessel
k
stiff yarrow
warm anchor
Those blurry emoji triggers me more than Iโd admit 
short yarrow
Anyone have a good exception for trying to update something in a DB that doesn't exist?
visual egret
nullpointer
warm anchor
I donโt know any good exception exists 
short yarrow
yeah me either. I want to use an exception that already exists before creating a new one
mighty storm
ive made a dangerous error
mighty storm
oh ho ho you'd think so wouldnt ya
the pr im waiting for hasnt been merged in weeks tf are they waiting on
cosmic raft
a full moon
quasi valley
once in a blue moon then
mighty storm
2 of those dpes are incorrect thanks naming conventions
but theyre also mine so i know when builds happen lol
didnt realize i was anagram off on the shade plugin though
[WARNING] every dependency define 1 overlapping resource:
[WARNING] - META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
Geez calm down
zealous wedge
oh yeah maven shade plugin has issues
supposedly it also doesn't properly exclude jar signing files
waxen panther
maven
incorrect
yes i agree
mighty storm
smh
zealous wedge
hmmmm
cosmic raft
waxen panther
zealous wedge
nice readme
cosmic raft
thanks!
zealous wedge
lol
waxen panther
more then kyori events 
cosmic raft
What would you prefer, @quasi valley, between these two options:
- good code, but bad readmes
- bad code, but good readmes
cosmic raft
that's not an option I gave
keep in mine I spend time to write javadocs and even document my code in weird spots
and I write tests for everything
zealous wedge
sounds like you're artificially constraining the choices :p
vernal bone
Hello! Witch channel can I use for bot commands?
mossy vessel
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#the-silents ig?
mossy vessel
runs
limber knotBOT
do we have a witch channel
vernal bone
Thanks!
quasi valley
excoose me there's no witch emoji
mossy vessel
mossy vessel
cosmic raft
@vernal bone ^ you can see them all there
limber knotBOT
.lit Machine_Maker
sets Machine_Maker on fire and eats popcorn while watching them slowly burn to death
(Machine_Maker) Could not get value: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='coinmarketcap-nexuist.rhcloud.com', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /api/ltc (Caused by NewConnectionError('<requests.packages.urllib3.connection.VerifiedHTTPSConnection object at 0x7f944ccdf0f0>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno -2] Name or service not known',))
oh, I thought that was gonna be a one time thing...
vernal moth
See, we got two bots
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dumb xd
vernal moth
One is dum the other isn't
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Korobi is clearly superior
vernal bone
Yep, that's exectly what I was looking for, thanks kashike.
vernal moth
One is by lax one is by kash, take your guesses
mossy vessel
kaNshike
vernal bone
Typing goes 
vernal moth
Is it python?
cosmic raft
see https://korobi.vq.lc/about/ "The technologies" section
quasi valley
itโs probably just a few of kashโs clones waiting for someone to enter a command and manually responding
vernal moth
That's a nice and weird collection
cosmic raft
MongoDB shell version: 3.2.12
connecting to: felix
channel_ai - 6 records
channel_ai_history - 78 records
channel_commands - 851 records
channel_topics - 8,617 records
channels - 129 records
chat_indexes - 76,679 records
chats - 17,381,663 records
kitty_images - 3 records
my_collection_keys - 18 records
networks - 7 records
reminders - 1,253 records
users - 45 records
Over 17 million chat entries now :)
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felix
cosmic raft
yes
limber knotBOT
.seen Proximyst
(kashike) Have you looked in a mirror lately?
Proximyst was last seen 1d5h9m53s ago saying ":pog:" in #paper
shut up xD
.$mgmt chan config #paper
Current config for '#paper' on 'esper': logs | commands | reminders | seen
:pog:
last i checked, i looked like a bunch of cells
.$vstats
.vstats
pokes Korobi
waxen panther
limber knotBOT
ah right
.$vstats -p
U: 1w6d23h41m2s | Q/P/s: 0/241278/0.2 | Cache{networks=4, channels=45, commands=5}
waxen panther
Q/P/s ?
limber knotBOT
kashike is epic ๐๐๐๐
Queed/Processed/queries per second
Queued*
was gonna say... what is Queed?
limber knotBOT
.$cleardbcache
Clearing all caches....
Successfully cleared caches: cleared 4 networks, 45 channels, 5 commands
=seen Proximyst
Proximyst was last seen 59s ago saying "kashike is epic ๐๐๐๐" in #paper
=seen zml
zml was last seen 2d15h29m32s ago joining #paper
hi
gotta love how fast that query is :3
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hello zml !
limber knotBOT
hi zml!!!
i have been seen :)
it has some cute easter eggs too
=seen kashike
holds up a mirror
=seen kashike
kashike was last seen 12s ago saying "=seen kashike" in #paper
hehe
I think cross-support is enabled here too
=seen -n spigot kashike
maybe not? hm
I've never heard kashike talk, but they're in this very channel!
waxen panther
lol
limber knotBOT
yea that must not be implemented to other networks properly I guess
wide chasm
Looks to be gibberish
golden gust
Because that string is mangled with something else to produce a readable string
You want a deobfuscator that's aware of whatever tool they used to mangle that text with
vernal moth
If you look at the decompiled code you will see what method is used to deobfuscate the string
And then invoke that manually
Maybe the deobfuscstion method checks the caller context so that requires special attention
cosmic raft
@void void https://bytecodeviewer.com/
vernal moth
And what decompiler?
That supports like 5
That's disassembled
Not decompiled
What even is your goal here?
zealous wedge
then just read the bytecode lol
vernal moth
Then disassembled code should be enough?
zealous wedge
if you want to transform the bytecode to be more readable, take a look at sth like asm
vernal moth
Yeah it should be easily possible to figure out why ff breaks
Does procyon break too?
coarse lily
What plug-in is it?
cosmic raft
We do not support any discussions of cracking
golden gust
Basically, they mangled the class in a way that decompilers tend to trip themselves on
vernal moth
Get java-deobfuscator and start running some normalizers
limber knotBOT
don't try to decompile obfuscated shit ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ easy
vernal moth
Guess the LVT is fucked
coarse lily
Probably intentional so people wouldnโt steal it.
wide chasm
Could always open the file in a hex editor and read it by hand ๐
coarse lily
And here you are trying to steal it. :)
vernal moth
But it doesn't matter since the goal isn't to deobfuscate
zealous wedge
lol "steal"
limber knotBOT
stealing code that should be open source in the first place ๐
acoustic pilot
Obfuscated plugins annoy me
coarse lily
โShouldโ is debatable.
limber knotBOT
technically you can't steal code lol
yeah that phoenix
because copyright is dead 
acoustic pilot
And yeah, anything you distribute which links to Bukkit is automatically GPL by extension, meaning you are obligated to distribute the source code too
limber knotBOT
well copyright violation is a different crime than theft
mossy vessel
Muh c0de is noobfuscated to protect muh pl0gins
acoustic pilot
Is open source enforced on Spigot resources?
waxen panther
plotsquared v5 may as well be obfuscated 
limber knotBOT
nope
acoustic pilot
Rather, non-obfuscated
limber knotBOT
it's not a crime if you don't believe in copyright ;)
mossy vessel
Unfortunately not
acoustic pilot
LAme
limber knotBOT
yes, there are extreme obfuscation rules
vernal moth
@ok if you remind me in like 16 hours I can take a look for you
limber knotBOT
free resources can barely obfuscate anything lol
vernal moth
I didn't encounter a jar yet that didn't reveal it's secrets to me
If you send me now I'll forget
Gotta send me when I am at my pc, so tomorrow after work ^^
vernal moth
My PMs are filled with ppl asking all kind of stuff so it would just get lost
coarse lily
Now I wanna PM you and ask random stuff.
vernal moth
That's dangerous when I am sitting on my couch with mulled wine my in hand
Results might be unespected ^^
coarse lily
:)
mossy vessel
๐
vernal moth
It's not that hard to break decompilers
acoustic pilot
Obfuscated plugins make me wanna decompile and upload them to GitHub lol
That would be 100% legal
wide chasm
afaik JVM bytecode supports instructions that can't really be translated to Java properly
vernal moth
Java doesn't care about half the shit written in the bytecode
And yes, java doesn't use all jvm features
It does
It absolutely does
wide chasm
Yes
mossy vessel
Obfuscated plugins make me wanna decompile and upload them to GitHub lol
Why would you bother with obfuscated stuff ๐
mossy vessel
Just use an oss alternative or write your own
vernal moth
It's a mess
mossy vessel
runs
vernal moth
Yeah, anybody who uses obfuscated plugins is out of his mind
acoustic pilot
Why would you bother with obfuscated stuff ๐
Some of it is surprisingly good, but yeah I just avoid them where I can