It's the worst
#general
ancient bolt
vernal moth
Oh I don't look at those anymore, lol
I used to get 20 per day on xing, the German version of LinkedIn
ancient bolt
Yeah idk why I have email notifications turned on when I'm not job hunting
ancient bolt
I got my first job through a recruiter, but yeah now that I have as much experience as I do I don't need em anymore
But I did get the job before this one through linkedin, company reached out directly
vernal moth
Dealing with HR is bad enough, I don't need recruiters that have no clue about me and what I want and only care about their cut
Yeah, I also get companies reaching out directly, that's better
But recruiters also try to hide themselves here, don't put recruiter in their names anymore, they are now HR
vernal moth
Just opened xing, got a DM to work at germany's money printer 😂
coarse lily
I've never had a job through LinkedIn.
Though I've been doing this long enough that I just work within my own network.
I do know some folks find it useful.
vernal moth
I basically still am at my first gig
coarse lily
And some of my friends have been recruited through it.
vernal moth
I kinda need to switch next year or smth
coarse lily
Why?
vernal moth
Money
vernal moth
If I go somewhere else and come back after a year, I can easily increase my wage by 50%
coarse lily
I do consulting now when I do tech stuff.
vernal moth
Cause you know, I know what ppl here get when the join with 5 Years of experience
coarse lily
So I can raise or lower my rates if I want to.
vernal moth
And I would argue I have more than 5 Years of experience
My issue is that I started here as a student, did my apprenticeship/bachelor dual study thing and started with a good wage, but it's hard to get from that wage to smth we offer new ppl from the market
coarse lily
Yeah.
It's weird but that happens a LOT.
For some reason they always pay new folks more.
So that's why people hop jobs.
vernal moth
They have to
coarse lily
I know a few folks who have been able to stick around.
minor badge
I got mine thru a recruiter actually
vernal moth
I'll talk to my boss in two weeks, we got a formal meeting
minor badge
she was p nice, did some clerical errors but oh well
coarse lily
They've managed to carve out a niche and been paid enough to be happy, though.
vernal moth
Do you know if their wage is competitive?
coarse lily
Yeah, it is.
vernal moth
Well, I am paid enough to be happy
coarse lily
The friend who's been there since '99 is basically a lynchpin for that company.
vernal moth
It's the fact that I would be paid more that makes me unhappy I guess
coarse lily
So he's valued highly there.
vernal moth
I already earn above avg for a java dev in germany
coarse lily
The other friend is paid competitively and manages a bunch of stuff now.
But both of them still mostly do developmeny.
Er, development.
vernal moth
It's also the comparing with coworkers and kinda knowing what they get that's bad
On the last big project (that was a total shit show) I basically worked for 3, because the other two where useless
coarse lily
Yeah it's a tricky thing.
ancient bolt
Actual connection request I got today:
Came across your profile and wanted to reach out as I see we're both working to enable data teams. Would be great to connect with someone like-minded because I have so questions to share
Like idk how to break it to this dude that I only work here cause I get paid
coarse lily
Haha
vernal moth
I had to go "ye ye go write unit tests" so that they don't fuck with my shit, cause when I would assign them an issue to implement I just couldn't rely on that it's done right and doesnt break the second you look at it funny
coarse lily
Yeah, that's a tricky thing. Gotta be careful, though. If you come across as someone who thinks they're better than everyone else then people don't like working with you.
People want to work with skilled folks.
ancient bolt
Easiest way to do that is not be an asshole
coarse lily
I've worked with a ton of mediocre folks who were super nice.
And super good folks who were kind of dicks.
And I'd take the former every day.
ancient bolt
I've never worked with anyone who was actually super good and also an asshole
coarse lily
Haha me either.
ancient bolt
Only people that thought they were good
vernal moth
A coworker of mine, she's a year younger and did the same as I did. She gets even more xing requests than I cause she's a woman, but she felt like she needs to answer every request 😂
coarse lily
Everyone I've worked with that was truly good enough to be a dick was not.
Although one dude was kind of a dick in private but was smart enough to not be a dick outwardly in public.
So he'd shit talk everyone to me, which was kinda amusing, but then he'd be nice and understanding.
So I guess that's the balance maybe.
ancient bolt
Anyone I've known that's actually good has been a nice person, because the ability to communicate well and work well with others people in a team is a core skill. If you can code in circles around everyone else all day long but can't communicate well and work well on a team then you're useless
vernal moth
I like to think I am a decent person, I very well know where my limitations are and that I am not the smartest person in the room. It's my way of thinking that makes e a good developer, the absence of fear to get my hands dirty (smth minecraft taught me) not my intelligence, that's avg at best
coarse lily
You have to interact with people or have others working on it, too.
At some point. Eventually.
Being tenacious and willing to learn is like 90% of it, IMO.
Most of the best, most successful folks I know were not the smartest person in the room.
vernal moth
We got one guy in a critical development position on a central server that's kinda a dick, but it's quite funny, after I few months I basically earned his respect and now we get along nicely
coarse lily
And I know lots of smart people who are eating old sandwiches for dinner because they aren't successful at all.
vernal moth
I don't think he's a dick, he's just tired of working with idiots I guess
coarse lily
Not that success == money, but you know what I mean.
cedar spade
Mmm sandwiches
ancient bolt
I'm not very smart, but I am humble enough to ask questions and admit when I don't know the answer, and I'm willing to put the time and energy in to figure stuff out, and find out who to ask when I don't know. That's what makes me a valuable developer
vernal moth
Absolutely
ancient bolt
Along the way sometimes I fool people into thinking I'm really smart, and I'll take it lol
coarse lily
:)
vernal moth
That's what I try to teach my apprentices: go ask, always! But only ask after you tried to find the answer yourself. Being able to ask for help is a skill. Some of them think like I am some sort of God, because I am able to solve their problems in seconds, what they don't see is that I solved that exact problems 100 times the last 10 years so it's burned into my mind after having to try hard for the first 50 times or whatever. That's what I tell them
Nothing worse than an apprentice sitting around cause he can't solve a problem but is too afraid to ask for help
ancient bolt
Of course that doesn't apply here. I'm on the core team cause I'm smarter than all of you
ancient bolt
(just kidding, it's because I'm a bigger Taylor swift fan)
coarse lily
I apologize for not bowing earlier.
vernal moth
Thankfully we don't have titles like senior and junior here, I feel that further creates anxiety to ask questions
coarse lily
What's "no table"?
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@cedar spade mmm pizza
vernal moth
Ppl that sacrificed their table for a higher rank in the user list
ancient bolt
Eh, it goes both ways. Promoting a junior dev can be a huge morale boost (along with the raise) and it can be a nice reward to show that their work to grow themselves has been noticed
vernal moth
(remove the space)
coarse lily
Haha
ancient bolt
A job with no structure also has no room for career growth
coarse lily
I sold Trent a ticket to Minecon and then high fived when I gave it to him.
ancient bolt
Also other companies expect to see titles like that so it can be confusing
coarse lily
Fucking hell that was forever ago.
vernal moth
I think the whole title thing generally isn't so widely used here
coarse lily
2013 apparently
ancient bolt
I like companies that have job titles that they actually understand and respect, or none at all. My last company had job titles and structure but all the executives (the highest paid people with the biggest titles) constantly said how much they don't care about titles
vernal moth
I grow by learning new skills, solving different kind of problems, doing different kind of projects
ancient bolt
Like cool, the guy who gets paid the most doesn't care about titles
Turns out those who are at the bottom getting paid the least care a whole lot fucking more
coarse lily
Yeah, you gotta be careful with that.
ancient bolt
@vernal moth I'm talking about career growth, growing salary and responsibilities etc
coarse lily
I've worked with one place who had a "flat hierarchy".
They said "we don't have a structure"
And I'm like "in the absence of structure, structure gets created for you" Which is what happened.
It was an organizational nightmare.
But in general the no title thing works, as long as there's still some organizational structure to make sure people know what they're doing.
Otherwise psychopaths take over.
And, yeah, the title thing can be tricky when you switch companies.
If you work somewhere and your title doesn't translate to a "Senior" role which is what you'd switch into it can be tough on the resume or in negotiations.
vernal moth
My responsibility grows automatically here, my lead basically asks me if I wanna do X next. Wage here is a discussion with the lead to, which then goes thru HR. If your lead can argue why you should get paid more, HR will allocate part of the yearly promotion budget
ancient bolt
I think the way my current company handles titles works well. They do have titles which correspond to compensation (salary) but effect almost nothing past that. But the key thing is they are quick and happy to promote people, which helps keep morale high and shows people their hard work has been noticed etc.
vernal moth
Does everyone with the same title get the same salary?
coarse lily
If the people aren't awful.
ancient bolt
Same salary range
Exact salary depends on the offer you got and how good of a position you were in to negotiate
coarse lily
I worked at one company where there was a merger and then re-org and they had a lot of weird caps on salaries and stuff.
But a bunch of people were already making X in their current role.
ashen cliff
Years of work + Title + Random(100-200).
coarse lily
So the new org made them all "Directors"
So suddenly there were like 30 fucking Director of X, Director of Y.
And then the requirement was that those Directors needed 5 people to report to them.
There was this huge shitshow of titles, restructuring, juggling, etc.
vernal moth
I'll see what the talk with my boss will bring, I got more stuff to complain formally about than just money
coarse lily
I'm like man shouldn't they just increase their salary ranges? Wouldn't that be easier?
vernal moth
The hardware situation for devs here is a joke, lmao
coarse lily
Unsurprisingly that company is pretty fucked now.
Ha!
A client just shipped me a new laptop.
Which I get tomorrow.
Hardware is key.
vernal moth
I got a 2 core 6th gen i5 from the U series
ancient bolt
But titles are important for me because titles matter to other companies and that effects your salary levels when looking for other jobs. From my experience that's usually about all it effects, once you're in the job it doesn't matter. But if I'm doing senior level work you can bet your ass I expect a senior title because that effects my career and salary in the future
vernal moth
At least it got HT, but that's about it
vernal moth
And 32gb ram, which is useless if the cpu gives up when I have ide and screen sharing open
coarse lily
And the opposite is true, too. Some places have ludicrous titles for crappy folks. But usually people clue into that fast and they know not to hire them in equivalent roles.
ancient bolt
I have a 2019 16" mbp and apparently they refresh ours machines on like a 2 year or so basis
coarse lily
Yeah I'm pretty sure the box they sent is a 16" MBP.
ancient bolt
And yeah 32GB 8 core i9
coarse lily
But I'm not entirely sure.
vernal moth
Oh yeah demon, if I would switch to a company that has titles I would make sure I get one that feels fair to me, wage, experience and skills wise
ashen cliff
At least we had RDP to virtualized workstations for trashcan laptops.
vernal moth
Thankfully in germany there is a giant need for good devs so I can easily ask for stuff and choose
coarse lily
That was not fun.
waxen panther
what kinda funny business is going on in here
ashen cliff
Money.
coarse lily
We're talking about pancakes.
vernal moth
Oh we experimenting with virtualized workstations here too now
ancient bolt
I should learn german on duolingo and move there
coarse lily
Haha
ancient bolt
Virtualized workstations are the bane of my existence
I refuse to ever use that ever again
coarse lily
It's a pain in the ass.
vernal moth
Don't forget, german dev wage = us dev wage / 2
ancient bolt
I will walk away from a job that makes me do that
coarse lily
watches DemonWav unpack his bags
ancient bolt
Oh really? Okay nevermind I'll stay here
coarse lily
:)
vernal moth
It's mostly like that in all of the EU it think?
ashen cliff
Imagine paying taxes, health insurance and your retirement fund.
ancient bolt
Guess demand isn't that high lolol
coarse lily
Heh I live in the SF Bay Area, so demand is nuts here.
coarse lily
People fresh out of school making crazy money. But the cost of living is so high it basically normalizes until you get at a higher level.
Ha.
ancient bolt
Moving back to Oklahoma next year
ancient bolt
This place fucking sucks
vernal moth
But yeah, I'll tell my boss that if I don't get more money again, better hardware and stop having to do projects on my I'll go search for something new next year
unkempt drift
why demon?
coarse lily
It's not my favorite place, Demon.
unkempt drift
I live 1.5 hrs north of SF
coarse lily
I'm in San Mateo, which is a little better because it's outside the city. So it's a bit quieter.
But I'm mostly here because my lady's job has her not able to leave.
ancient bolt
I pay $3000 per month for a 1br apt. In OKC I was paying less than $1000 for the same quality and size apartment
coarse lily
Otherwise I'd probably move.
unkempt drift
ah yeah, housing costs are nuts
ancient bolt
Also it's incredibly fucking crowded here compared to where I'm from, I hate it
vernal moth
With remote work finally being normalized, living inside cities is kinda stupid
coarse lily
How long have you been there, Demon?
ancient bolt
I moved here in jan
coarse lily
@vernal moth I think once the pandemic chills out then a lot of people are going to nix the remote stuff.
ancient bolt
Right before covid locked everything down
coarse lily
But we'll see.
Ahh yeah.
I moved not long after that, Demon.
So we're in a similar boat.
vernal moth
Like, I wouldn't have an issue moving outside, then commuting once a week into office
coarse lily
I'm still in sticker shock a bit
novel steppe
Good morning, I have a question as to which processor to use on my server, could you help me? I'm between an 8c/16th 2.0GHz Xeon and a 3.7Ghz Xeon 4c/8th Both have similar prices, which one do you think would suit me? thank you for your help
vernal moth
Single core speed is better
ancient bolt
I already have the go-ahead to work remote so I'm just going to go back to where all my friends and family live
coarse lily
@novel steppe what are the CPU models?
ancient bolt
My company is cool enough to not change my salary after I move
ancient bolt
I've been fully remote anyways since March
novel steppe
@novel steppe what are the CPU models?
@coarse lily Xeon D-1540 or Xeon E5-1630 v3
vernal moth
I think once the pandemic chills out then a lot of people are going to nix the remote stuff.
If a company doesn't offer me at least 2 or 3 Home-Office days, I just wouldn't work for them then
(per week)
coarse lily
1630v3 is pretty solid.
If the cost were the same I might go with that. It should be newer arch and likely have faster RAM.
ancient bolt
But for significantly less per month than I'm paying for an apartment in san jose I'll be able to buy a house in Oklahoma
ancient bolt
Biggest thing I'll miss here is 3 Bees coffee in san mateo
I hope they're still doing okay
coarse lily
Hm is that good coffee/
novel steppe
At any rate I'd go 1630v3.
@coarse lily Because? I have a number of 50 users on my server and the tps go down to 15-14 you think I would do well?
coarse lily
I don't drink coffee but she does.
@novel steppe Too many factors to say for sure on your tps.
ancient bolt
The owner is a really cool dude, from italy, he's basically watched silicon valley grow around him
coarse lily
But the 1630v3 should perform better.
ancient bolt
He told me about how the original owners of youtube would come in every day and when they sold to Google they brought him a bottle of champagne
vernal moth
How good of a job is cali/the US doing in carying local business thru this pandemic?
ancient bolt
Once the pandemic is over I hope I'll get to go back and chat with him again
@vernal moth kind of terrible but also not bad because no one here believes the pandemic is real so they just go about their normal lives anyways
vernal moth
Heh
coarse lily
A lot of CA is handling it poorly.
ancient bolt
I've been doing a ton of food delivery from local places
I only knew the area around san mateo where I worked, 10 minute walk from caltrain
So I barely saw any of it
coarse lily
I don't know very much of it.
unkempt drift
hey, well at least Gavin Newsom (CA governor) is doing his part by literally doing the exact opposite of what he is telling everyone else to do 🙂
coarse lily
I haven't explored much other than right around the house.
But it's pushing 1AM and I should get some sleep.
G'night folks.
vernal moth
Gn8, thanks for the chat
Guess you guys going to bed means I should get my ass out of it 😂
vernal moth
I have today off, gonna see if I can take a look at stuff for paperweight
Also gotta finish MiniMessage I guess
unkempt drift
hangar 😄
vernal moth
Mostly just color inheritance for templates is broken
unkempt drift
I know like nothing about paperweight. should look into that
ancient bolt
I need to get the at PR merged
vernal moth
Paperweight is a giant rabbit hole, as all mapping projects are, but I think I understand all parts now
ancient bolt
Then I can focus on generating param name mappings
Paperweight is turning out much better than I ever expected it to lol
It definitely has a very high entry point in terms of knowledge required
vernal moth
Jake did you look at my toothpick project before? That was somebody else I think
It's basically that, but done by somebody who knows gralde, lmao
unkempt drift
no, I don't think I did.
upbeat kelp
Waht ?????????????
ancient bolt
Also with lots of fixes in lorenz and mercury and other cadix projects lol
I can't take credit for all of that though
vernal moth
Well that I did too when working on toothpick
Altho I would have never been able to handle merging like you did
My merging was a mess
Spigots mappings are such a mess
ancient bolt
The merge system was probably my biggest contribution to the whole thing other than the paperweight project itself
God it's so bad
Idk why md_5 chooses to continue to do things like he does
vernal moth
Should have at least introduced packages at some point
unkempt drift
another reason a hard break would be sweet.
can forget entirely about spigot mappings
ancient bolt
Yeah the spigot backwards compat parts of paperweight is the slowest part of the proecess
Which like... Big surprise lol
vernal moth
We can't, we would still obfuscate our output jar using spigot mappings for nms compat
I like how I can say obfuscate using spigot mappings and not even being wrong 😂
ancient bolt
If we ever broke so hard as to break nms compat too then, while awesome, it would mean Spigot probably doesn't exist anymore
Cause there's hard breaking, and then there's intentionally choosing to break nms plugins
unkempt drift
if we were breaking from spigot, why wouldn't paper do its own nms mappings
ancient bolt
Those are definitely different levels of breakage
vernal moth
We want to break from spigot, we don't want to break 100% of plugins just because
ancient bolt
Cause people everywhere are running servers with plugins they've been using for 5 years and haven't updated once
I'm all for a deprecation cycle but we have to be smart about it
vernal moth
The ideal thing to happen would be a gradual migration to mojang mappings using our tooling, like using paperweight in a plugin project
Or well, no, ideal thing is everybody stopped using all internals, lol
ancient bolt
Rosetta 3 will be our backwards compat plugin rewriter lol
unkempt drift
lol
vernal moth
As long as you don't introduce that complexity into the server but patch plugins using a seperate tool that might be a good way forward
olive marlin
I don't exactly understand what paperweight does - is it just temporary adding mappings for dev time which are dropped later? At least that's what I figured as a gradle plugin or something.
ancient bolt
But even plugins which only use APIs would still break if we started deprecating things - which we absolutely want to do
ancient bolt
So we'd have to like deprecate stuff and remove it in the next version, or maybe even the version after and have lots of yelling in the logs about the deprecated API ussge. It'll take a lot of patience
vernal moth
Paperweight is also able to automatically remap all out paper patches, something we did manually in the past
Yeah, api governance needs patience
olive marlin
Is there a reason why not make it generate obfhelpers for all of the function names using some mapping? I understand you can't do that for fields in Java, but it'd at least be a step forwards.
ancient bolt
paperweight also generates the mappings we use, since we have to do a lot of things to figure out what mappings we even need
Omg that would be horrible
olive marlin
Probably a stupid question :)
olive marlin
Oh, right.
vernal moth
We also want to be more independent of spigot mappings
ancient bolt
The process of even coming up with the mappings we use in the first place is very complex
Yeah
Also generating tens of thousands of obfhelpers would not make the code easier to use
vernal moth
When we got patches in mojang mappings, I wanna try spend a weekend on trying to apply all that to a vanilla server jar and see what happens
ancient bolt
Which is the end goal here
vernal moth
Like to a snapshot
vernal moth
Do you rather have 300 options in one file or 100 options in 3 files each?
ancient bolt
We could remap craftbukkit patches in 1 go because they are diff patches
vernal moth
Idk, could prolly be reordered at some point but that's not really a priority
ancient bolt
I wonder if that would be a way for us to test out snapshots...remap the spigot base and generate diff patches so it's 1 patch per file
vernal moth
That basically was my idea
ancient bolt
Yeah that could probably work
vernal moth
Diff remapped spigot against vanilla, try to apply to snapshot
ancient bolt
Git patches can be annoying cause it's all or nothing
At least with diff you could work through it one at a time
vernal moth
But yeah, that's gonna have to wait till paperweight is "done"
ancient bolt
If we ever moved away from using nms at runtime tho we'd probably use yarn mappings - I think the license for mojmap only allows for use at dev time
Could be wrong tho
vernal moth
Could still check that with mojang
We talking years for that anyways, might be in a different position then
ancient bolt
But reobf is easy regardless of the mappings we use
Remapping bytecode is extremely stable
Yeah for sure
vernal moth
I am still surprised how good mercury works
ancient bolt
I'm amazed at how fast it is
Idk how minecrell did it
I never imaged we'd have working source remapping when I started this project
Original goal, and original impl, was to compile spigot, remap that, and decompile again, losing all comments and generally everything else
It was a mess to say the least
Mercury really saved the day
vernal moth
Yeah
viral hornet
@quasi valley GOOD MORNING ARE YOU DRINKING WITH ME TONIGHT
quasi valley
lmao
ashen cliff
You can always drink more.
vernal moth
There is drinking going on tonight?!
waxen panther
z is joining us too
vernal moth
When and where?
waxen panther
smh
vernal moth
Brb, my plane will only take 25 hours
vernal moth
You are literally in the exact other side my the fucking planet
My Moscow Bali flight was 14 hours and that was already torture
twin lagoon
https://owo.whats-th.is/7aciKSw.png interesting random generated namespace
void void
a.
quasi valley
viral hornet
My Moscow Bali flight was 14 hours and that was already torture
@vernal moth ez, meet in bali?
Cheap alcohol and just get some anti-diarrhoea & anti-nausea pills, and you're good to go.
vernal moth
I just got my Xmas bonus, I can buy the good stuff now 😂
Man, Bali was 2 years ago, time flies man
twin lagoon
@viral hornet 🥺
waxen panther
@viral hornet i sleep now gn
potent fossil
I'm hoping to go to bali this next summer if covid is finally going away by then. Was going this last summer but cancelled @vernal moth
vernal moth
it was nice
but honestly, not sure if I would go again, the flight is just not worth it to do it twice
I can have a nice vacation closer to me, or go to new places that are that far away
limber knotBOT
ew
viral hornet
@twin lagoon 🥺
twin lagoon
🥺
vernal moth
idk what that was but I dont want it here
potent fossil
stupid donuts
mossy vessel
Kids being here when they should be at school
twin lagoon
@mossy vessel 
vernal moth
?warn @stone fern posting a dum gif
leaden oxideBOT
goodmorningevry1#8916 has been warned. || posting a dum gif
potent fossil
👍
mossy vessel
@twin lagoon 👀
potent fossil
bed tiem speech in the morning :(((((((
viral hornet
Night simple 🥺
potent fossil
:pelad
viral hornet
shhh
mossy vessel
pelad
potent fossil
gudnayt pogi
stone fern
I thought it was a good gif luckley I did not post the second one
vernal moth
I would suggest you to read our community guidelines before continuing to talk in this discord
stone fern
sorry
vernal moth
viral hornet
Why would you even think that would belong here?
twin lagoon
because it's the funny XD
viral hornet
Common sense dude
No michael wtf
Dont encourage these PEOPLE
THINK OF THE CHILDREN
stone fern
I am sorry did not think about that
minor badge
i think it only wants to unescape valid tags
minor badge
have fun then <3
woven otter
Nice
void void
I've created amazing library for BukkitTask
Tasks.async(task -> {
while (true) {
task.sync();
System.out.println("This is synchronized");
task.await(1000);
task.async();
System.out.println("This is async");
Thread.sleep(1000);
System.out.println("You can use both sleep and await");
task.await(1000);
}
});```gonna upload on jcenter
void void
k imma upload rn wait a bit
im adding javadoc tho
git@github.com:rest-faucet/task.git
Use it as you want. MIT license
(This is not an plugin. you have to include it in your jar
void void
thanks 🙂
vernal moth
I was using this before https://github.com/aikar/TaskChain/wiki/usage
which requires chains, which makes passing around objects meh
and aborting and exception handling etc
void void
mine has more features & easy to use
you can use #pause(milliseconds) to execute time-taking tasks
vernal moth
yeah I saw the internal scheduler
void void
Tasks.sync(task->{
while(true) {
task.pause(15); //this gonna take 15 milliseconds at most to process
complexMethod();
...
}
}
vernal moth
def bookmarking that one @void void, thanks for sharing
maybe you should add a forum post 🙂
void void
yeah ik
i'll test more and I'll add javadoc to all classes
then I'll make a forum post
woven otter
Same thanks
void void
(If you star my repository that will be a lot of help)
woven otter
I will star it once im home cant login into github rn
mossy vessel
I went for a coffee today and noticed it's pretty cold outside
vernal moth
already did star 😉
I went for a coffee today and noticed it's pretty cold outside
shit, I think I need to go outside today
the last days it was really warm cause sun was out and no clouds
minor badge
mini discovers worse, java skedule
mossy vessel
I need to find my scarf
jade mountain
@void void cool idea! i've done something similar before too. the issue (you may have found already) tho is that it'll still trigger the async catcher because the current thread won't actually be the server thread 😢
minor badge
java problems :'>
jade mountain
I suppose so! 😄
worn ember
ashen cliff
Just let me die Facebook.
END IT.
They could at least tell you how to apply settings.
olive marlin
Did they make it so that once you login, it's forever tied to your account? I've read that somewhere, but don't want to believe it.
quasi valley
OH MY GOD
THEY FINALLY DID IT https://i.imgur.com/QQa6AxY.png
still needs settings for homepage customization but hey, it's something
worn ember
@quasi valley you can make your own homepage tho? Or do you mean the explore
quasi valley
not the profile page, the default github.com activity page
void void
hi
worn ember
Wut do you need to smash the grapes yourself?
woven otter
What is mulled wine
worn ember
.g mulled wine
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.gimmesomeoven.com/mulled-wine-recipe/ -- Mulled Wine Recipe | Gimme Some Oven: "Dec 21, 2017 ... Mulled Wine Ingredients: · Wine: No need to splurge on a pricey bottle — any basic bottle of dry red or white wine will do. · Fresh..."
worn ember
Oh ok
woven otter
Oh
vernal moth
It's the hot wine they give you on Xmas markets
Where you don't notice the alc till it's too late 😂
mossy vessel
It's the hot wine you buy at overpriced, overfilled, cold and wet xmas markets
And I love that
vernal moth
Not this year tho :/
Both carnival parties (getting drunk in costumes) and Xmas markets (getting drunk in the cold) are canceled this season :/
Where are my traditions?!?!
worn ember
now its reduced to the tradition of getting drunk alone at home
upbeat kelp
Rip trees in Christmas
worn ember
upbeat kelp
Beating meat be like ^
untold copper
BRUH
worn ember
firmware update kekw
vernal moth
Don't blame me, I "accidently" brought one, then I saw that it doesn't work without a gateway, so I had to get that, but you also need a remote, and then I saw a pack that had remote and bulb so I have 3 bulbs now 😂
They even integrate nicely into google home
I can now say "ey google, turn the Xmas tree red" 😂
Totally worth the idk how many euro I spend on all that shit
I don't want to count
worn ember
hah, they make you buy one thing so you buy all the crap you need for it too
10/10 marketing
vernal moth
It's all cheap tho
Compared to other stuff
And it's not cloud the way I see this
Google only talks to my gateway
So it wouldn't work outside my wifi?
Idk
mossy vessel
I have way too many of those bulbs
But why tf did you put them on your xmas tree
And why tf do you have an xmas tree in mid november
vernal moth
mossy vessel
oh LOL
untold copper
you dare underestimate the xmas tree
worn ember
@mossy vessel mid November is pretty late to some peoples standards 
mossy vessel
Mine barely lasts more than 4 weeks
So if I get one now I'd need to renew them before xmas
vernal moth
yeah i dont even have space for a real tree
untold copper
We don't have real christmas trees here 😂
unreal nimbus
Does anti-xray work async or is it processed in the main processor thread?
vernal moth
its processed when sending chunks
the performance impact is not noticeable, which is why it is so superior to plugin based solutions
unreal nimbus
Of course, it is better than from plugins.
I have 4 processor cores on the server 1 loaded at 100% 3 at 20-30% I do not know if I should put anti-xray.
pastel pivot
anti-xray is async and multithreaded
unreal nimbus
Huge thank you!
pastel pivot
See for instance https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/Spigot-Server-Patches/0362-Anti-Xray.patch#L270 where executor is the server thread pool. The main thread doesn't wait until the packet is finished. The chunk packet and subsequent packets are sent later when it's finished.
mossy vessel
yeah i dont even have space for a real tree
Sad
slim nymph
Damn cyberpunk got custom tracks from well known artist and run the jewels made bad ass video too https://youtu.be/YAVvwv-YSJ4
mossy vessel
That game better doesn't disappoint me.
olive marlin
I love
when people
send messages
like this
and spam me
with notifications
I can't even glance at the notification to see if it's important or not, because I need to read 15 of them or open the chat anyway...
mossy vessel
Some people seem to mistake enter with the space bar
limber knotBOT
fast speaker, slow typer prolly
mossy vessel
But if I'm speaking to someone, I don't speak
in those
hacky short
paragraphs with a
break inbetween lol
worn ember
you havent talked to one of my teachers then
dude literally talkes with like 2 seconds pauses after every few words
very frustrating to listen to
potent fossil
mossy vessel
mornin
mossy vessel
I'm awake when you got to sleep and still if you wake up lol
potent fossil
mental meadow
cute
potent fossil
ur cute
worn ember
thanks
potent fossil
no ded not you
marsh charm
well I finally upgraded my srver
hopefuly 12 GB of RAM is enough for a 1-5 person server
spiral robin
Gm gamers
worn ember
@potent fossil wtf rude :/
worn ember
limber knotBOT
looks like a 10 minute sleep did the trick
worn ember
who be sleeping
limber knotBOT
generates the chunk, then gives the server time to gc n' stuff https://timings.aikar.co/?id=4d2d085e61874bf19a19da942948f73e c:
visual egret
the thing you sent could do with a bit more RAM lol
limber knotBOT
you were online last night but not last morning
worn ember
thats a sick commit bro
minor badge
robomwm stinky
limber knotBOT
so slow it doesn't even printed anything for a while
potent fossil
california is also on the rise
stiff yarrow
June -> October = Stable as fuck
November = douchebags in grocery stores not wearing masks all of a sudden
I'm suspicious its related to Trump being a baby about his loss but I can't be certain
potent fossil
everybody seems to think covid is over
well, not everybody, but a large amount of people
definitely a majority
stiff yarrow
the only major event that happened in November here is the election where Trump doesn't take COVID seriously at all
mental meadow
The numbers are going up in most parts of the world, I don't think you can pinpoint it to a specific reason other than people not being as careful as a few months ago
stiff yarrow
we had a county chairmen go on news and say obeying stay at home / small gathering orders was equivalent to being treated as second rate slaves
are they spiking like this though?
minor badge
hello aurora
untold copper
HAI PROXI :D
golden gust
somewhere was apparently claiming for people to wear masks in their own homes :L
mental meadow
look at austria
untold copper
HAI CAT :D
mental meadow
hewwo proowoxy
vernal moth
Everybody is spiking
mental meadow
(thats new cases, not total cases)
untold copper
HAI MARTIN :D
mossy vessel
I ran out of masks today so I had to went out without one
untold copper
HAI NOTMYFAULT :D
mental meadow
someone is excited
stiff yarrow
I don't get it, why does it start spiking everywhere around the globe at the same time
mental meadow
nmf don't you have a reusable mask by now
untold copper
YIS AURORA I IS UWU
stiff yarrow
@mossy vessel I just reuse the disposable ones
golden gust
I think it's a massively nuanced issue, especially with the people in charge being useless and hypocritical, it kills the very little trust left, especially when we're like, 7 months in being told that we're not even gonna have christmas and seeing your friends is literally the worse thing you can do, but, hey, pack yourself on busses and trains like little sardines in a tin on the way to work because we don't wanna pay people to twiddle their thumbs at home
mossy vessel
I do the same, but actually after some time I dispose them as well.
untold copper
OK BAI :D
golden gust
reuse the disposable ones
mossy vessel
And I don't want to wash my mask.
golden gust
So, you basically negate the use of them?
mental meadow
Still better than not using one cat
golden gust
Actually, studies question that one
You provide a breeding ground for bacteria
and then shove the petri-dish over your cake hole
stiff yarrow
a petri dish of my own bacteria, I only use them 2-3x before swapping to a new one
stiff yarrow
and I'm using them for like 10-30 mins at a time not wearing them long term
golden gust
and any bacteria which gets deposited on the mask from surfaces which you touch, and people who splutter out while you're around them, and "my bacteria" is not good
who knows, you have a marginal viral payload of covid, not enough to attac, but, enough to start going on a petri-dish
mental meadow
can viruses survive that long outside of a body? Like I get the bacteria and fungus growth, but virus?
vernal moth
Oh good
Somebody shared a screenshot oh a zoom meeting of EU defence politicans
And ppl guessed the last number of the pin and got in
mental meadow
gotta love itsec being taken seriously
slim nymph
I reuse my disposable if i never exposed myself to risk i nthe store in first place, ie never stood near anyone. but if have to be near anyone or go into super dangerous places like walmart, yeah no reuse
walmarts like the riskiest fucking place to go now
stiff yarrow
fred meyers is hella sketch too
slim nymph
was already bad pre covid
slim nymph
yes
stiff yarrow
overpriced grocery stores are actually the safest right now
slim nymph
stiff yarrow
the middle class people tend to take covid more seriously
cosmic raft
lmao @vernal moth
slim nymph
yeah I shop at Harris Teeter and ive seen one maskless person at the Starbucks at the front of the store just once
cosmic raft
could you imagine the damage that could be done there mini
if someone joined quietly and just listened
vernal moth
Yep
stiff yarrow
new seasons is pretty safe, same with whole foods
their prices are ridiculous though
vernal moth
Which is why I don't guess why they are fucking using zoom
slim nymph
yeah HT you gotta get shit on sale, HT is either over priced or really good deal
vernal moth
Like surely they have dum shit like cisco webex
golden gust
Mini, you're an idiot
visual egret
ok umm i accidentally overwrote /etc/locale.gen while installing arch. Is that much of an issue?
slim nymph
buy 2 get 3 free ends up being massive savings on lot of products
golden gust
You'd think that the people working on laws and stuff to protect the country have any idea of the tech in play that they're using and overseeing?
stiff yarrow
Safeway basically mugs you if you aren't in their club
golden gust
I mean, that falls further into play
you'd think that they'd be capable of blacklisting tech which is unsecure
cosmic raft
or at least putting it behind some kind of vpn required to access the site :p
vernal moth
My company blocks zoom
golden gust
and these are the people who make laws and regulations over tech and other critical security aspects
bahahahhaaaa... breaks down in tears
stiff yarrow
I learned Zoom actually has some impressive features recently for calls with 20+ people
vernal moth
Politicans don't really make laws, that would be a fucking mess
Industry and experts do
worthy geode
I mean, some of those politicians are also seriously thinking about getting rid of end-to-end-encryption, to improve security
so yeah, competence
golden gust
i forget how it all works but they all shake each other off
mental meadow
Mini, you're an idiot
golden gust
by the hand, I mean
vernal moth
We talked about that yesterday, I understand the frustration police and stuff have with encryption, makes their job a whole lot harder
slim nymph
why block zoom? man im so fucking happy to have zoom over webex
slim nymph
lol
vernal moth
We use on premise skype for business right now, next year teams tho
golden gust
I mean, zoom was known to have huge gaping security issues?
slim nymph
eh, thats a stretch
worthy geode
We talked about that yesterday, I understand the frustration police and stuff have with encryption, makes their job a whole lot harder
Yeah, but if you add master keys, criminals will just use messengers that don't have these master keys, making it even harder
stiff yarrow
have you guys seen those ROM reverse engineering projects where they rewrite functions in c/c++ in a decompiled ROM and have it match the ASM of the ROM
that doesn't sound fun, imagine having to write a function similarly to some overworked dev on crunch with no sleep was doing
slim nymph
"Friday, Nov. 6: Zoom keystroke snooping
Researchers in Texas and Oklahoma discovered that it's possible to tell what someone is typing during a Zoom call just by watching their shoulders and arms. "
lol thats cool but not exactly a zoom problem
limber knotBOT
police can still just monitor the devices directly if they have a court order that allows that. there is zero reason to threaten the security and privacy of every user lol
golden gust
I mean, yea, that ones dumb
limber knotBOT
I mean, you can also know what people are typing from their microphone
golden gust
but stuff like zoom bombing is hardly new
slim nymph
most of zooms complaints has been around the debacle of end to end, and zoom bombing
the zoom bombing wasnt really any different than any other video provider that allows unauthenticated non org members in even such as google meet, just zooms meeting ids are easier to discover valid ones
golden gust
I mean
golden gust
Zoom literally states that the platform shouldn't be used for government stuff
So, the fact that they'd use it for government stuff, especially potentially highly secure government stuff...
stiff yarrow
Qtips state not to put them in your ear
twin lagoon
that EU meeting wasn't zoom
worthy geode
My only issue with Zoom is that it feels kinda bad. idk, the UI is not great, the video and sound quality is meh and screen sharing always has issues
mighty storm
thats to get them out of legal trouble afaik
worthy geode
Had some good experience with Microsoft Teams, that seems pretty good
mighty storm
isnt video/sound quality based on... your/their I/o?
golden gust
Not always
twin lagoon
stiff yarrow
My only issue with Zoom is that it feels kinda bad. idk, the UI is not great, the video and sound quality is meh and screen sharing always has issues
@worthy geode maybe your connection is bad and or participants have bad gear
twin lagoon
it's just https://www.pexip.com/
worthy geode
Idk, got a 250 mbits connection, that should not be the problem
mighty storm
theirs could be bad too
golden gust
Many platforms like that will kill off a/v quality with encoding or throttling
Do you need 1080p for a student in a classroom? etc
mighty storm
for classes we use Microsoft Teams and BigBlueButton (which is some open source thing designed for learning, kinda cool i guess)
slim nymph
well, "use for govt stuff" would mean private meetings with classified info
stiff yarrow
I haven’t seen bad quality and I’ve been in zoom calls with 10 people
slim nymph
but if its a public meeting you WANT the public to see, no harm there
mighty storm
ive had a zoom call with 100 people before with no noticeable bad things
slim nymph
and yeah zoom handles bulk well. if everyone but presenter turns off video. but they also have webinar type uses too that forces the big presentation behavior
ie participants cant show video and has to raise hand to talk
stiff yarrow
There’s also the chat
mighty storm
oh yeah, my dad uses that for his work (and has been long before the pandemic)
worthy geode
Yeah, that webinar thing is nice
stiff yarrow
I’ve seen the chat used to ask for speaking rights
slim nymph
yeah webinar has Q&A
its overall a nice app, my entire team has been happy with it.
we were on it pre covid too
stiff yarrow
It works way better than Skype
worthy geode
I have seen that webinar feature used for online science conventions as well. Q&A is nice for things like that
mighty storm
dont diss my boy 
😢
slim nymph
and i have to give them credit that they scaled up in response to covid pretty fucking smooth
worthy geode
It works way better than Skype
thats not really hard tho
mighty storm
i said dont DISS
worthy geode
sKyPe BaD!
mighty storm
😡
slim nymph
normally a small business would be crushed in such a rapid growth
mighty storm
they also ramped up those security fixes too
personally i havent used it in months though
worthy geode
Discord also grew quite a lot, but they are probably not a small business anymore
mighty storm
sadly
stiff yarrow
Skype used to feel straightforward and simple and now its UI is a mess
mighty storm
i dont think it's any less straightforward but is pretty messy
least there's a dark mode
stiff yarrow
I'm comparing it to the Skype of 9 years ago in my mind
worthy geode
I only used the web app ever, because that desktop client was so invasive and annoying, idk
mighty storm
There's "Recent Chats" which range from 2017-july of this year for me. Then there's "Chats" which range from July to every other chat ive had
oh nvm im dumb, it's favorites
that's one thing skype has, favoriting/pinning convos , cant wait for discord to yoink that
limber knotBOT
glances at Ripcord's favorites
stiff yarrow
normally a small business would be crushed in such a rapid growth
@slim nymph at my GFs previous job I watched her CEO fail horribly at scaling their company, it was painful to watch, tried to do everything himself but couldn't and didn't want any help, it was a train wreck
slim nymph
well why was the CEO scaling instead of the CTO/engineers?
worthy geode
Atleast they added server folders, that was a really good change
stiff yarrow
he didn't have any proper staff
slim nymph
oh so he was the CTO too lol
stiff yarrow
the only person with power similar to him was my GF and she was officially a customer service rep
limber knotBOT
giving us a way to pin certain channels/convos on the home screen of discord would be a major improvement to its usability lol
stiff yarrow
company had like 30 employees and was growing
slim nymph
i want fucking custom user style sheets
stiff yarrow
they had tech giants for customers regularly
slim nymph
i wanna trim the damn padding on channel list
limber knotBOT
just use stylus?
worthy geode
I mean, its just a webapp, custom style sheets can't be that hard
limber knotBOT
oh, you use the client
stiff yarrow
I worked on their in house app and it was a goddamn mess made by some russian dude they weren't in contact with any more
limber knotBOT
you could probably get extensions running in electron in some way lol
limber knotBOT
could just create a simple one-page-app with the web client xD
ripcord runs on linux too btw ;)
stiff yarrow
I would ask him what he wanted me to change or fix on the app and he would literally say "Ask Emily what she thinks" (Emily being my GF) and I was like yeah okay this is weird, Emily didn't even know how to use the app, in fact he barely knew how to operate the app
limber knotBOT
as does 6cord
worthy geode
I mean, there are things like BetterDiscord that add custom css
mighty storm
https://gist.github.com/ObserverOfTime/d7e60eb9aa7fe837545c8cb77cf31172 can confirm it's absolutely not possible to install BD on linux
worthy geode
Maybe this works on linux? https://github.com/leovoel/BeautifulDiscord
Its just a css loader script
worthy geode
In August, it still worked, if I read the issues correctly
slim nymph
had an update 1 month ago
limber knotBOT
can't you technically just open the developer console of electron and add css that way? xD
worthy geode
I mean, its just changing discord css file, which are not even compressed or anything, I doubt it breaks easily
golden gust
issue is more that discord obfuscates their CSS iirc
worthy geode
I mean, Ctrl+Shift+I, yes
mighty storm
yeah, evidently the gist i sent does not install bd for you, dunno, dont have discord on my linux laptop
worthy geode
But I don't think it saves if you modify it using the dev tools
stiff yarrow
limber knotBOT
if you need to ask that you probably don't want to run arch 👀
visual egret
i dont want to
stiff yarrow
if you managed to install arch surely you are on their wiki already
just go read their java page
visual egret
ok
olive marlin
Many multi-communicator clients like Rambox and Ferdi allow you to inject custom JS and CSS. So you could style it.
visual egret
if you need to ask that you probably don't want to run arch 👀
@phoenix616 i think that arch with only the things i need is faster than ubuntu desktop
stiff yarrow
probably not faster in a meaningful way for minecraft
twin lagoon
are you using arch for mc servers or what
olive marlin
You shouldn't use Arch for any kind of server.
stiff yarrow
using arch for a server is def ballsy
twin lagoon
unless you know what you're doing and it's not running in production for anything mission critical
limber knotBOT
I mean, by that logic Void Linux would be faster 👀
olive marlin
If it's for personal use, it's fine.
If you don't know how to install 64 bit Java, you might not know what you're doing :)
visual egret
im testing ubuntu server vs arch right now, checking tps and stuff
stiff yarrow
if you want a faster MC server its more worth your time to just spend money on better hardware than using something like arch which I don't even think would offer any meaningful performance benefits for a MC server over debian
olive marlin
Just use debian/ubuntu server. It's really not worth using Arch.
golden gust
I mean, arch is doing the same thing as ubuntu just packing stuff differently
if you really wanted to skim performance out of hardware, you'd be better off using manjaro, but, bahahahaaa...
stiff yarrow
isn't manjaro arch based
visual egret
since im on ubuntu desktop, not ubuntu server im planning on moving my mc server
stiff yarrow
oooh do tell
golden gust
I forgot, Manjaro is the one which is for people too dumb to install arch use
stiff yarrow
@visual egret just use ubuntu/debian LTS for your server, you want easy and maintainable not difficult and unstable
visual egret
ok then
golden gust
only place you're gonna see gains is if you jumped from a dated distro or if you go to compile everything involved with running the server for your specific CPU, but, the time involved in doing that for the likely negligible gains, meh
twin lagoon
and there was another controversy like 2 months ago because they fired someone responsible for their finances because the manjaro founder or something wanted a personal laptop and it was rejected idk
twin lagoon
It also brings into light that the project head tried to censor Jonathon, This forum thread got unlisted by Philip Müller, then relisted by moderator @cscs, then unlisted again and @cscs was demoted from being a moderator.
3 months later and well surprise surprise
stiff yarrow
not familiar with those named people
twin lagoon
manjaro's forums has had to reset, old data not available
philip muller is the lead or something idk
stiff yarrow
surely it can't be hard to just make a good product without controversy
golden gust
if you just want an ez install, use one of the scripts, they're about as supported as manjaro but much more configurable
ofc, the joys of arch is setting it up yourself, however
twin lagoon
or use endeavouros
stiff yarrow
I put manjaro on USB but haven't installed it months ago, I'm technically tri-booting atm with Fedora/Arch/Windows
I use Fedora for work because I kept breaking shit in Arch being a dingus
visual egret
i mean i already have it insstalled on a VM
stiff yarrow
stiff yarrow
is the VM emulating nvidia gpu?
golden gust
better off installing gpu drivers onto the host itself
GPU manf drivers generally bust OS booting on machines without that hardware available
it's all fun
stiff yarrow
why do you need gpu drivers on a server anyways kind of defeats the purpose of going as slim as possible
anyways, for better MC performance just install better CPU 
arch isn't going to help
visual egret
^ i have 2 laptops that are too slow for normal use, have no batteries, and imgetting a macbook soon
so im using the laptops
limber knotBOT
"too slow for normal use" usually means way too slow for a server lol
stiff yarrow
yeah MC is one of the most demanding things to run
due to its excellent code 
visual egret
ubuntu desktop has about 18+ tps with 3 players on an smp server
with a pretty big map
about 20k blocks in radius
stiff yarrow
try looking at your timings and seeing whats hurting your TPS
maybe its the dinosaur laptop running the server
worthy geode
I mean, its 3 players. You can run that on a raspberry just fine
stiff yarrow
maybe its maybeline
golden gust
See, the issue with "too slow for normal use", is that you're gonna try running a server on there, it's going to be a crap experience, and you're gonna run in here consistelty with stupid questions over stupid issues like your hardware being crap
visual egret
@worthy geode i use that for a few smaller servers, the pi started lagging after 1+ players
golden gust
I mean, such as ignoring the 200 times it's been discussed that the size of a world is irrelevant, as the entire world isn't just magically loaded at once.
if you pre-gen on a pie and configure it properly, you can get a handful of players on there, but, it's a slow ass budget bin computer
stiff yarrow
that just causes chunk loading
golden gust
Which have 0 impact on the side of the world.
stiff yarrow
irrelevant to map size
golden gust
And, yea, once again: slow ass budget bin computer
stiff yarrow
have you looked at your timings, maybe you just have some plugin crippling your dinosaur pc
vernal moth
"ehy google, turn on the couch light" "ok, lets turn on the Couch!"
Also, tfw you start a movie, hear german voices, scream at netflix for changing the lang again until you realize it's a Nazi movie 😂
limber knotBOT
if ur using a trash computer to run ur serbur u gotta b in it 4 memes only
left swift
Pie server
potent fossil
trash pc under college dorm bed that "entire IT staff plays on bc its so good" server
limber knotBOT
pi vs Pentium 4
potent fossil
peak dirge
in that case I'd put money on the Pi winning 😉
ashen cliff
The Pi 4 should win in that case.
visual egret
starting up an old server be like:
untold copper
Just finished watching the reunion of the fresh price cast
potent fossil
Uncle Phil is gone :(
slim nymph
@visual egret stop running outdated builds, that is fixed
visual egret
yeah i clarified old
zealous knot
PAPER MEMES https://shx.gg/eOnEBR.png BOTTOM TEXT
frigid ferry
What do I see there? POATOE!
golden gust
?howtopostathread: http://gfycat.com/HealthyMeatyDogwoodclubgall
limber knotBOT
having do not ping in the name
only dumcordians
only
another good one is having ! in the beginning of the name
true canyon
15 online right now of that type, robo
potent fossil
Yeah I hate that. I always change their usernames in the discord I moderate lol
Only reason I have one is because of kash
Thanks kash
limber knotBOT
use IRC that disallows them in the first place. ez.
tellin ya, dumcord is a mistake
cunning raft
stupid irc user can't see this edited message
potent fossil
cunning raft
they lack critical information
coarse lily
Smart of them to add bans now that it's 2020.
cunning raft
looks like that's bedrock only?
potent fossil
Interesting
true canyon
permanent bans that extend to all versions of Minecraft (except Minecraft Dungeons)
Hmm.
potent fossil
Yeah that confused me
coarse lily
That PR basically says "We changed some stuff and we know the multiple version stuff is a nightmare but we aren't gonna fix it so we're gonna pretend it's all normal"
coarse lily
:)
worn ember
@zealous knot 
twin lagoon
no
golden gust
If you have to ask, no
twin lagoon
why would you
you're overcomplicating it
just get yourself an installation of debian 10 and throw on tmux + java on it
boom
ashen cliff
Good luck getting hardware that actually still runs that.
Somehow Debian is still updated and working on Itanium.
coarse lily
Debian is the best.
peak dirge
run a Minecraft server on a Wii
stiff yarrow
@spare venture yeah are you doing astros playroom
its like a great showcase for it
my psn is nossr50 or nossr50@gmail.com if you wanna add me
stiff yarrow
void void
plz read README.md
it's amazing if it works
i tested in some cases but I think it's not perfect yet
ashen cliff
Already did the WII way back. There was a timings reports for it, but afaik it's gone now.
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ashen cliff
Talking to Tux.
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oh sorry