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unreal quarry
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also, aikar. i might be willing to relocate, if you want to hire me πŸ˜›

slim nymph
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showing experience with business negotiations for contracts is good. working with larger projects getting experience with process, terminology, etc is good

untold copper
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basically

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you gotta look smart

slim nymph
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we dont have any open recs sadly lol, with covid things bit tighter you know

golden gust
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I keep getting random job offers for like, half way across the country

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and my city is like, tier 3, so, wooo 😐

slim nymph
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well at least MY department

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i work for a super large company, it owns a lot of websites yall are familiar with πŸ˜›

stiff yarrow
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what is tier 3

golden gust
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Basically, leaving the house is akin to shaking hands with hitler

unreal quarry
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i'm most likely going to have to move away from houston to actually find a job. sounds backwards, i know. but competing with 30 million people for jobs is hard

golden gust
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I don't know all the exact rules, etc, but, bars and pubs closed, etc

slim nymph
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our root parent company owns another subdivision of Ziff Davis that owns Speedtest, humble bundle, Speedtest, PC Mag, geek.com, IGN

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im under the business side though, prob most yall might of heard of on this side is eFax

golden gust
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ah, those bastards

untold copper
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Fax still a thing?

golden gust
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and, texas, ouch

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e

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last I was seeing, there was basically a nice number of people moving to places like texas

lean kiln
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i live in california and everyone and their mom is fleeing to texas

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usually austin and houston

unreal quarry
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i dont see why. texas sucks

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i want out

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lol

lean kiln
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because california is wayyyy worse

golden gust
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Because it's not a democratic state

lean kiln
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it will be lol

golden gust
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That's the sad part

stiff yarrow
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@unreal quarry Oregon is affordable (as long as you don't plop yourself in the city or next to intel/nike) and has a lot of tech companies

lean kiln
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iklol all these california people gonna go vote in the same laws they are fleeing from

golden gust
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"Hey, our state fucked up and we're out, but, we're gonna bring it to you!"

unreal quarry
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@unreal quarry Oregon is affordable (as long as you don't plop yourself in the city or next to intel/nike) and has a lot of tech companies
@stiff yarrow i know someone from Bend, and he says its expensive as hell there

golden gust
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It's stupid

stiff yarrow
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whats his definition of expensive

golden gust
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Anybody here watch louis rossman?

lean kiln
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ye lol

unreal quarry
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whats his definition of expensive
@stiff yarrow it takes 2-4 incomes to survive

golden gust
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He did a nice bunch of videos on new york real estate, and it's the same issue in many of those places

lean kiln
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yeah SF and a lot of CA has similar issues to ny

stiff yarrow
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just looked up bend oregon renting prices and its quite expensive, I don't know what is in Bend but now I will avoid living there

unreal quarry
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lol

golden gust
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rental prices are high af, building opertunitues to these areas is generally a no-go because of regulation and local communities basically saying "no!"

lean kiln
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theres a need for more affordable housing but its illegal to build

stiff yarrow
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you will want to live near portland, but not in portland is my advice

unreal quarry
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isnt your state minimum wage like $12?

stiff yarrow
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I have no idea what it is

unreal quarry
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its $7.25 here

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so thats a plus (or a minus, depending on how you look at it)

stiff yarrow
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.g oregon minimum wage

limber knotBOT
untold copper
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ya'll in america

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.-.

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.g india minimum wage

limber knotBOT
stiff yarrow
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my place is 2bed1bath, has washer/dryer allows pets, faux wood floors, dishwasher, kitchen and dining room included, like 950sqft and rent is 1250 base

untold copper
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($3) for an eight-hour work day

stiff yarrow
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yeah but what is the cost of living in india

untold copper
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most ppl dont have places to live XD

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not lying

golden gust
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India is very....

untold copper
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poor

lean kiln
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we should just make the minimum wage 1000$ an hour

stiff yarrow
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if I went and lived in Ukraine I'd probably be considered wealthy

untold copper
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India is kinda cheap tho

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not in living

unreal quarry
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i'm going to move in with @golden gust. we'd make the best roomies.

golden gust
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my mates family is from that sorta kinda area of the world, people still live in villages and burn cow shit bricks for cooking

untold copper
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mhm

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so?

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it works

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and its more sustainable than coal kek

golden gust
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I'm saying that as it shows the difference between living costs and availiability of "good stuff"

untold copper
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Most of india lives in villages

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idk the cost there

unreal quarry
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i could take my american income and move to india and be rich. i can then afford as many cow shit bricks as my family wanted \o/

untold copper
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lol

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true true XD

limpid comet
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billy i'd github sponsor you cow shit bricks if it had that option

unreal quarry
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although, in texas, we call them cow patties

golden gust
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I was debating on saying cow patties, but wasn't sure if people would get that :L

unreal quarry
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lol

stiff yarrow
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tbh Michigan which seems for all intents and purposes to be a shithole, is mad tempting when you get an extremely nice house for only 80k

golden gust
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nothing like walking on the farm and standing in some fresh cowpat

untold copper
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Cow patties is like

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ok

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@golden gust ur not wrong bro

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not at all

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it is that ways only

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welcome to farm life, my grandfather has one

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seen it

marble lark
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someone's telling me to pass

-XX:-UseInterpreter
when playing Minecraft what does that do lol

golden gust
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I can probably count the number of times I've been on a farm on both my hands

marble lark
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I have a feeling it causes an instant crash

golden gust
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It erm, disables the interpreter?

marble lark
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does that do anything at all if you disable it

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lol

golden gust
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I'd imagine that it forces everything to be compiled

marble lark
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this guy always trolls me whenever he can so I'm expecting instant data corruption or something

untold copper
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then why even bother considering it -_-

marble lark
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It apparently "Makes MC faster"

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ah yes

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then I shall do it immediately

untold copper
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Sure, and deleting System32 makes windows faster :P

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Lol

marble lark
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are there any bad side effects if not I'll actually give it a shot lol

golden gust
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higher memory usage

untold copper
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make a backup of the backups

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πŸ‘€

golden gust
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Compiling every method is going to waste a chunk of memory and eat extra CPU when new stuff is called, etc

marble lark
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I usually have 4GB for Minecraft anyway hopefully that's enough

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aight I'll try it hope it doesn't break anything

untold copper
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omg

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is this normal?

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just reset end

marble lark
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yes

limpid comet
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i have never seen that in my life

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cool

marble lark
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wait you didn't know

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the pillars can generate below ground too

untold copper
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no

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i did not

marble lark
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doesn't always happen but it's cool when it does

untold copper
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in all my time and end resets

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this is the first time im seeing this

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kewl

marble lark
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holy shit the guy wasn't lying

untold copper
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wait a minute

marble lark
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I'm getting curious behaviour now from the game

untold copper
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im dum

marble lark
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with that option every time I do something there's a massive lagspike then suddenly it jumps to as high as 200~FPS on a vanilla game

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and the lagspikes slowly subside over time

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interesting

limpid comet
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yeah because it's caching every call

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kinda like how certain games needs shaders to compile

marble lark
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No clue how it would help either

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I think the -XX option means - as in minus

golden gust
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-XX is a JVM arg

marble lark
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iirc for the JVM +Something enables it

golden gust
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It's the - before the actual arg which disables it

marble lark
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-Something disables

golden gust
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UseInterpreter is enabled by default

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2 second google suggests that you'd want -Xcomp, but, πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

untold copper
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Does mob farm manager actually help?

golden gust
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JIT already compiles methods which are called enough

marble lark
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sounds like your basically running the game like how python works lol
I dunno man it seems like it's a trade off for worse initial lag for even better performance later

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2 second google suggests that you'd want -Xcomp, but, πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
Wait that's the option to force JIT always no

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I tried Xcomp before and it lagged horrifically throughout

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with this option it gets better rapidly with every lagspike until performance is 2x as high

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how much fps are you getting without the -XX:-UseInterpreter setting anyways that warrants using it
@rugged pilot Tested (On max graphics settings, Vanilla):

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Without: 100~

meager tusk
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@minor badge pwoxi PES_Blush please

marble lark
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With: Initially 5-20, after a while 200-300

meager tusk
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@twin lagoon Michael PES3_BlushSuitplease

marble lark
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at least that's what the debug screen says rn

twin lagoon
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idriz hypershy

marble lark
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idk dude id just install fabric and lithium/sodium/phosphur
I'd have to install those each time an update swings tho

meager tusk
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fabric and lithium/sodium/phosphor is great

marble lark
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and besides I've used those before to no real performance gain

meager tusk
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i've actually had great performance gain with that combo

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tbh

unreal quarry
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and besides I've used those before to no real performance gain
@marble lark I'm gonna call bullshit on that.

marble lark
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Seems like I'm the only one it doesn't work for ;-;

meager tusk
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What are your specs lol

marble lark
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No kidding it actually didn't work

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What are your specs lol
PC specs?

meager tusk
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yeah

marble lark
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1.3GHz core nVidia something-250 GPU

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MTX or RTX or whatever lol

meager tusk
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I think it should still offer some incremental gains though

marble lark
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I guess maybe

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but with all the people I see getting 500FPS with it

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I kinda feel cheated

twin lagoon
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those mods are epic

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i get 600fps with them on 1440p

unreal quarry
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I think my toaster has more power than your pc, sharmen

marble lark
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maybe

waxen panther
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@twin lagoon have you tried the starlight fabric mod

twin lagoon
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Yes

marble lark
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Probably the mods just don't like my PC

waxen panther
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it is hot

twin lagoon
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I do love myself some Starlight

waxen panther
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with starlight sodium and lithium i get like 2.6k fps when uncapped lmao

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opposed to like 800 on vanilla

marble lark
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with starlight sodium and lithium i get like 2.6k fps when uncapped lmao
what the fuck

twin lagoon
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3090 ResidentSleeper

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3080 pogU

marble lark
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opposed to like 800 on vanilla
BRUH WHY DO I ALWAYS GET THE LOWEST FPS

slim nymph
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you're using a toaster

marble lark
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50 used to be a luxury for me until I got a better PC

twin lagoon
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you have a laptop

unreal quarry
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i have a 3090 and only get like 400 fps because my cpu limits me
@rugged pilot dang.. I have a 970 that gets me 1500fps

marble lark
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and this better PC caps at 100 on vanilla without special JVM arguments

untold copper
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@rugged pilot rtx 3090 what the hell

marble lark
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you have a laptop
wait what

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how did you guess

twin lagoon
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. 1.3GHz core nVidia something-250 GPU

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mx250

marble lark
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ah yes MX250

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ye

twin lagoon
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i'm going to guess it's some scuffed 15.6" HP laptop that costed $800

unreal quarry
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My laptop has a 1650, but I've not tested the fps in mc yet

marble lark
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believe it or not this 1.3GHz core is performing better than my old 2.4GHz PC

slim nymph
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800? maybe 100

marble lark
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i'm going to guess it's some scuffed 15.6" HP laptop that costed $800
acer

twin lagoon
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f

unreal quarry
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Ryzen 3600 iirc

marble lark
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800

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wtf

twin lagoon
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why do you have a 3090 though

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with a 2600

untold copper
marble lark
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bruh It cost me 1500

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you mean you could get those specs for just 800

untold copper
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I have a decent budget build

marble lark
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or less

twin lagoon
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did you just buy whatever 3000 series gpu was available

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or did you really want a 3090

slim nymph
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1500?! you paid 1500 for that piece of shit?

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i hope that was 15 years ago

marble lark
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1500?! you paid 1500 for that piece of shit?
...it's my collage PC

slim nymph
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im hoping you mean some other currency over USD

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cause 1500 USD Would get you a ballin laptop

cunning raft
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1500 btc

marble lark
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did I get scammed

slim nymph
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yes

marble lark
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wait

slim nymph
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i wouldnt pay more than 100$ for that

unreal quarry
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Very

marble lark
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but if this laptop is bad

twin lagoon
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depends on what laptop it exactly is

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for like $2000 i got an intel core i7 1065g7

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intel iris igpu

marble lark
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holy fucking shit does that mean my old Fujitsu PC should have only cost $50

unreal quarry
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You paid $1500 usd for something I sold in a garage sale for $20 like 5 years ago

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Lmao

marble lark
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this thing runs the fastest out of any PC (Excluding one desktop that's already broken now) I've ever had

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wtf

twin lagoon
unreal quarry
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Man, you're missing out then, bro

twin lagoon
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660fps

marble lark
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Man, you're missing out then, bro
what's your PC specs like doe

nocturne falcon
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uhh youre cpu bottlnecked basket

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whats billy got? it might be

twin lagoon
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@rugged pilot make sure your ram speed is proper

marble lark
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i just lowered all my settings to minimum and now get 550 fps with my 3090
I always run it on Fabulous with Max smooth lighting and render distance to push my PC lol

twin lagoon
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same

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well, not render distance

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more than 12 is basically useless for most servers

marble lark
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I mean that is until apparently you guys showed up with 500FPS considered bad

nocturne falcon
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2600 single core performance is pretty bad, so most likely significantly worse than billy's

marble lark
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It's the first time in years since I'm getting more than 50 in MC LOL

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2600 single core performance is pretty bad, so most likely significantly worse than billy's
tbh why is MC the only one with issues for multicore CPU utilization

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I thought Mojang's been trying to make it more multithreaded over the years

unreal quarry
wide chasm
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I just learned my pc doesn't even reach minimum requirements for Minecraft

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Still works, though

marble lark
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What were the minimum requirements again

nocturne falcon
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til mc had minimum requirements

untold copper
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minimum req are usually way off tbh

cunning raft
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mfw billy got a colored server brand

wide chasm
unreal quarry
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actually... looks like my nvidia isnt kicked in right now... let me fix that

marble lark
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actually... looks like my nvidia isnt kicked in right now... let me fix that
@unreal quarry are you shitting me you're getting that on an Integrated GPU

untold copper
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^

unreal quarry
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lol yeah

tender blade
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Hey guys, is there any place in this ds I could ask for plugin recommendations?

marble lark
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tfw someone's Integrated GPU pumps out an FPS 4 times higher than your old PC with all the graphics settings at minimum

nocturne falcon
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lmao

marble lark
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Hey guys, is there any place in this ds I could ask for plugin recommendations?
should be available under Paper help I believe

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you could probably ask in general though

warm anchor
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Paper help is for paper question phossure

waxen panther
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😳

marble lark
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I mean plugin questions are a question idk

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about Paper

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idk lol

warm anchor
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πŸ₯¦ phospeek

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@waxen panther

waxen panther
warm anchor
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Most flagship phone perform better than PC 10 years ago

marble lark
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minecraft on your phone is probably higher than 30 fps
10FPS

void void
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Agnes said they want to expand the world height and are looking into it, oh god

marble lark
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Bedrock Edition's rendering engine can't work with my phone

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Agnes said they want to expand the world height and are looking into it, oh go
why oh no

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lel

void void
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They can possibly ruin the performance more

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But yeah it would also be cool if they did expand the world height

marble lark
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^

warm anchor
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I mean it’s bedrock they can always move the generation task to cloud and don’t let local machine do that

marble lark
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I'm getting a metric ton of what looks like error messages now (They're highlighted in bright red) that I've never seen before lul

899777 33052 2 com.mojang.blaze3d.systems.RenderSystem::clear (14 bytes) made zombie
899778 41534 2 com.mojang.blaze3d.systems.RenderSystem::disableFog (12 bytes) made zombie
2674345 67340 2 com.mojang.blaze3d.systems.RenderSystem::normal3f (15 bytes)

limpid comet
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doesn't really look like errors

void void
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eurgh ffs

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why the fuck does declare commands packet have to make client so laggy...

zealous wedge
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oof

restive thicket
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why the fuck does declare commands packet have to make client so laggy...
It's worse on Bedrock. The equivalent packet freezes the screen if it's big enough. xd

worn ember
cunning raft
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jfc another pr to review

worn ember
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just accept it zoop

fallen oracle
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Nice.

cunning raft
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gimme a few

fallen oracle
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Funny number guys

cunning raft
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ill find something wrong with it

fallen oracle
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Make sure to laugh

worn ember
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Seemed to work flawlessly in my test plugin

waxen panther
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ded
flawlessly

cunning raft
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all my prs work flawlessly in my test plugins

worn ember
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its just an event, how hard can it be right

waxen panther
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i found an issue

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ded ur literally braindead

worn ember
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lmao

mossy vessel
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What dis

waxen panther
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you left an sout in

worn ember
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lmfao

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right

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there we go

waxen panther
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another pr saved

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that'l be $10

worn ember
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not the sex number anymore tho sad_pepe so you ruined it

waxen panther
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just add another new line

cosmic raft
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rip github

void void
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☹️

waxen panther
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octocat no 😭

mossy vessel
void void
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have any of you watched Host?

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this one to not get confused

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cedar spade
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all my prs work flawlessly in my test plugins
@cunning raft ah yes your 0 test plugins

waxen panther
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can't be worse than ded's

cunning raft
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ah yes your 0 test plugins
@cedar spade prs can't break things if i don't test em, now get to clickin green buttons

cedar spade
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no u

cunning raft
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i would if i could

cedar spade
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no u

waxen panther
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no me

mossy vessel
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smells

waxen panther
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you do yes

mossy vessel
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meanie

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@m0ds

waxen panther
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😳

worn ember
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@cunning raft what did you mean with "no space"?

waxen panther
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remove da space

cunning raft
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@worn ember remove the space

ashen cliff
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Things I don't need in my life:
Large Biomes + 1.16 nether.

worn ember
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whys that?

restive mantle
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There is any good free plugina for paper ??

next wind
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just check out spigots resources page

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essx, luckperms, and TAB are pretty standard ones though

merry talon
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Amazon: "Special delivery instructions requested by customer which may delay shipment"

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but... I didn't do that

limber knotBOT
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has anyone worked with crowdin before and importated existin yaml language files into it?

cedar spade
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I imported a bunch of Java properties files a long time ago, no idea about yaml though

golden gust
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iirc, it should just pick up what's in the repo if setup properly

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I ended up shoving a weblate instance up for some reason

limber knotBOT
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hm, I tried doing it manually but I guess they can't import yaml files

worn ember
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only really used it to translate directly on their site

limber knotBOT
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main issue as far as I can tell is that they don't support the filename.locale.yml syntax?

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or maybe their help page just doesn't say thonk

cedar spade
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You should be able to specify any syntax for the output file names?

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Idk about importing, it's been a long time

limber knotBOT
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yeah, no idea how to actually get the files into the project in a way which properly recognized the language files lol. even setting up the github integration didn't make them show up.

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ah, you need to double click on the branch. that's really intuitive -.-

worn ember
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smh imagine not knowing how to double click

limber knotBOT
cedar spade
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That looks like you've created multiple translatable files

limber knotBOT
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no, you simply can't have the source file be a translation file

cedar spade
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iirc you should just be uploading the English one as, say, lang.yml or lang.en.yml, then importing each language from that

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You can't

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The source is a given file from the repo, the outputs are the translations

limber knotBOT
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(on the right are the auto-translated files)

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why would I need to create a separate file just to contain all the keys?

cedar spade
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At least, when we were setting up EssX that's how we had to do it - messages.properties is the only file in the project, messages_code.properties are the outputs

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You can just remove English as a target language, presumably you already have a full English translation so you don't want people to mess with that on Crowdin

limber knotBOT
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so you have english twice in that? :S

cedar spade
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Three times

limber knotBOT
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eww

cedar spade
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One for base, one for _en, one for _en-GB

limber knotBOT
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hm

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kinda dumb that crowdin doesn't support that but I guess the idea is that everything is automatically generated

cedar spade
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The only reason we still do it is as a holdover from Essentials' translations which were set up the same way

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You don't need to do it like that

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Presumably you have at least one language already translated, so that can be the base and then you just remove it as a target

limber knotBOT
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also also before I set this up further: does crowdin respect the order of the keys that is used in the source files or does it just always sort alphabetical?

cedar spade
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uhh

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I think it can do either? not sure

limber knotBOT
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hm, actually it allows me to save the config with the "wrong" setup... lets see how badly it fucks up lol

brazen barn
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What's the favorite plugin(s) for stopping various forms of cheating these days?

I know paper's anti-xray is recommended.

What about other forms of cheating?

potent fossil
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good, proactive staff members in vanish who teleport around and monitor players

cedar spade
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moderators are the best plugins

potent fossil
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nocheat+ notification only mode, or aac with good config

limber knotBOT
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god, I already found the first crowdin bug -.-

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and they also delete empty new lines :S

worn ember
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get deleted

potent fossil
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bieber has levelled up tbh his song Holy aint bad at all

limber knotBOT
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good job for making 2020 even worse

worn ember
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i dont really mind his music, just his shitty personality

potent fossil
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idk i dont follow celeb life

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but im sure he's an asshole they all are

worn ember
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me neither

brazen barn
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Staff isn't really an option for the vast majority of the day unfortunately.

What does aac stand for?

potent fossil
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uhhh

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advanced anticheat?

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maybe

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not sure

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we just call it AAC

brazen barn
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Lol okay

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I'll look into it when I'm home from work

potent fossil
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I am not sure it even has an expanded name. I think the plugin's name is just AAC eyess

waxen panther
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AAAAAAAAAC

potent fossil
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ddg! !spigotmc aac

coarse hornetBOT
potent fossil
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tf

waxen panther
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spigots cloudflare thing

potent fossil
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oh nope, it is Advanced Anti Cheat

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but everyone calls it AAC

limber knotBOT
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just use NoCheatPlus lol

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also mfw crowdin isn't able to import an English translation file thonk

potent fossil
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however if you use it, you need to buy Celebrimbor's configuration for it. Otherwise it's useless. Use NCP as phoenix said in notification only mode w/ good staff members as a nice alternative

brazen barn
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I haven't been in the server admin/technical side of things since around 2012 so I'm still catching up on popular plugins

limber knotBOT
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I mean NCP blocks also are able to catch the normal mods as long as you don't do PVP Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

brazen barn
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No pvp in our server so no issues there

potent fossil
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idk, I still think delegating punishment to a plugin is risky at best. some things sure, like chat infractions or very easy to detect issues that have no chance of being false positive. i prefer, personally, to have the plugin notify and then have a staff member go physically check to verify and if need be perform the punishment

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but, you do you

astral spoke
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Can anyone assist me with an unusual problem?

I'm running a server on a powerful dedi with a lot of resources and TPS is terrible with next to no players online - it wasn't like this yesterday even in the slightest (solid 20 tps). Something has changed overnight and I can't figure out what's wrong.

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=4734bcb8033a43b3a8e931686d775dbb

Any tips?

limber knotBOT
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blocking non-standard behaviour isn't punishement imo

potent fossil
limber knotBOT
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like why would I let a player fly around on the map at speed 100 if you can easily just don't let them do that xD

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I don't need staff to validate that

potent fossil
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I'm talking about when it auto bans and kicks.

brazen barn
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No you're not wrong at all. Back when I was a high school kid with nothing to do but admin a server, I was /very/ hands on

potent fossil
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Blocking is not an issue

limber knotBOT
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well NCPs default config doesn't really auto ban or kick

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the checks are way too lax for that

potent fossil
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All I'm saying is don't turn those on

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That's literally all I said

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Don't know why it has to be a big deal

limber knotBOT
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"Use NCP as phoenix said in notification only mode" sounded to me as if that wasn't the default behaviour? or that there was a toggle for that which just isn't the case

potent fossil
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im not going to argue with you today about this

limber knotBOT
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you would need to have to go very deep into how the config works in order to be able to force it to auto ban

potent fossil
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stop being a pedantic fuck please

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for one day

tired heath
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Wow, I wasted like so much time on a stupid projectile hit event workaround, since the projectile getLocation() was always off 1 to 4 blocks before the actual hit point. Now I got the idea while I was at the gym "Hugh, might MC suck so hard that it does not update the projectile location properly before processing the projectile hit event and just processes it later ..." guess what, that's true. Sheduling it by one tick fixed the whole location thing pepega πŸ”¨

limber knotBOT
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well stop confusing people that have no idea of how things work lol

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because if someone will go look for a "Notification mode" in NCP they wont find shit lol

brazen barn
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Are plugins able to accurately distinguish between elytra flying and cheat flying?

limber knotBOT
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no

brazen barn
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Shame

limber knotBOT
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that's basically impossible, you can't accurately detect any cheating

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you can get close, sure. but the more complex the mechanic the harder it gets

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and elytras are Pepega

tired heath
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But you could ask politely πŸ™‚

potent fossil
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by 'notification mode' i simply meant that whatever anticheat you choose either dont turn on (if the default is off), or turn off (if the default is on) auto punishment (kicking/banning/etc). only have it notify so a staff member can go look, and otherwise if possible block them from doing it.

limber knotBOT
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iirc the server just trusts the client that the flying path is correct with elytras

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well NCP doesn't have such simple settings for configuring that, you would basically have to replace the full config to change that behaviour as each check's violation levels and actions can be configured individually

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I mean I get where you are coming from, I just feel that you make the situation sound easier than it actually is to an end-user/admin

potent fossil
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ok

twin lagoon
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simple clappywappy

potent fossil
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i sincerely apologize for breaking the rules of clear communication that makes phoenix not turn into a pedantic asshole (which is hardly anything)

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i yield

limber knotBOT
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I am always a pedantic asshole

potent fossil
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I am always a pedantic asshole
QFT

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also,
@twin lagoon uwu πŸ₯Ί

twin lagoon
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πŸ₯Ί

modest path
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i hate stadia ads so much. I wouldnt mind, and i dont mind normal ads, but the problem with stadia ads is that i have to go click the friggin "skip ad" button even after the video finishes playing. It is so annoying and i wish they would go delete that hecking ad istg

modest path
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oops wrong discord

potent fossil
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hi kash bby

cosmic raft
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hi

potent fossil
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How are you?

cosmic raft
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meh

potent fossil
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same

limpid comet
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@tired heath scheduling things one tick later is the solution to every problem

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Had the same issue with the PlayerItemChangeEvent (or something like that)

potent fossil
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Minecraft

unique snow
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I mean, if a player is flying without elytra equipped they are probably not elytra flying, and if they are flying 20% higher than the elytra max velocity they are probably not elytra flying πŸ˜›

limpid comet
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Hey, don't assume that

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I regularly use elytra glide mechanics without players wearing an elytra

viral hornet
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Woo

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lets be meh together

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It's Mehurday

limpid comet
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It's mehriday

potent fossil
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not for the south-eastern hemisphere my boi

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or rather, just the eastern hemisphere idk

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timezones :')

viral hornet
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Timezones 🀯

limpid comet
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',:S

cosmic raft
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just no

potent fossil
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wat

zealous wedge
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just say no to timezones

limpid comet
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help how do i win

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i just started playing chess

waxen panther
limpid comet
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ive never won agame before because i always get stuck at this point

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i get them down to a few pieces and then the king just runs for its lief

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YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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pog

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did the blue colour change for core team or am i just going senile

waxen panther
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looks the same to me

limpid comet
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that was my side

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i cant move him backwards

pseudo solstice
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Lol

prime pawn
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What are your thoughts on making a plugin to ban players from having their own skins and to always use Steve instead (when an inappropriate skin is used)?

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Like /skinban <user> <reason> smth like that

cunning raft
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it is a thing you can do

lean kiln
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yeah, it's a thing you can do

limpid comet
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you could just change their skin

prime pawn
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I mean, I know it's doable, but idk if there's any plugin out there that does it already lol

lean kiln
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What are your thoughts

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i was responding to this part

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idk if it exists yet tho

prime pawn
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Like I mean, do you think it'd be worth making as a feature?

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I think it'd be cool if Ruan added it to LiteBans x)

zealous wedge
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i mean if their skin is inappropriate for the environment their problems probably won't stop there

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why not just ban them outright

lean kiln
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yes

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its almost pointless imo

prime pawn
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Well, you could always have it so their skin looks like steve/alex to everyone else then

lean kiln
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well your basically saying you think it should exist

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so I mean if you want it then make it

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I wouldnt use it

prime pawn
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Well yeah, half the time when someone joins a server just to be toxic, they'll rejoin on an alt once banned

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I doubt they'd rejoin on an alt just because their skin got banned

limpid comet
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seems like a better option to just change the skin

prime pawn
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Not only that, but if it were possible to auto detect inappropriate skins and do exactly that, that'd be even better

limpid comet
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zml was right though

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it is

lean kiln
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skin resolutions are so low

limpid comet
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every time you "skinban" just create a hash of the skin value and compare it against new joins

lean kiln
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if your auto detecting stuff its gonna be flase positives

limpid comet
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store that hash in a db

lean kiln
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like wat r u detecting a naked minecraft skin lmao

prime pawn
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As in a list of public "inappropriate skins" on skindex pmc etc etc and if the player has one of those skins, ban their skin

lean kiln
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oh ic

limpid comet
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sounds like you just want other people to do the work for you

lean kiln
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but they change one pixel

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boom new hash

limpid comet
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yeah

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use machine learning

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ez

prime pawn
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Well, I just thought of the idea. I no longer operate a server and no longer develop mc plugins

limpid comet
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i'd never use it

prime pawn
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Just thought it'd be cool if someone wanted to implement the feature

lean kiln
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yes machine learn detect naked minecraft skins

limpid comet
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if it causes a problem then maybe

waxen panther
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yes

limpid comet
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it's possible

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probably a lot easier than other things since res is so low

next wind
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Just tell the fbi to ignore the folder full of naked minecraft skins on your pc

prime pawn
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πŸ˜‚

limpid comet
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echo "nakedMinecraftSkins/" >> .fbiignore
livid swan
limpid comet
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tcpshield

waxen panther
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anti-punk policies

limpid comet
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at least, i think that's what tcpshield is for

livid swan
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No tcp-shield will not help

limpid comet
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broc you look so lonely in waiting room

waxen panther
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im chillin

limpid comet
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omg hype

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new scott the woz

zealous wedge
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what do we have against punks now

potent fossil
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punks are cool uwu

zealous wedge
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they are :3

waxen panther
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zml is cool

zealous wedge
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broc is cool uwu

waxen panther
limpid comet
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couldn't possibly lose this right

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i stalemate'd

waxen panther
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bluely stop being smart and playing chess

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and instead open feature requests for cloud

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thx

limpid comet
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hmmmm

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make it so i can play chess via cloud commands

lean kiln
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make chess pl0gin

limpid comet
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i genuinely might

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i had an idea to do that one time in my lobby

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where it would be a chess game on the ground and anyone could come up and play

waxen panther
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lol that would be cool

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baby villagers as pawns

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iron golems as rooks

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maybe snow golems

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iron ones r too W I D E

limpid comet
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they've got some heft

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hmm

peak ginkgo
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Follow-up to this, #paper-help message

I ended up writing a plugin called ReactAV to identify whenever a user is victim to this. Came in handy today!

[00:32:26 ERROR]: [ReactAV] !!! A PLUGIN WAS DETECTED TO CONTAIN JAVASSIST !!!
[00:32:26 ERROR]: [ReactAV] "But what does this mean?" - You, Probably
[00:32:26 ERROR]: [ReactAV] Though React is not 100% sure why a plugin would contain this, 
[00:32:26 ERROR]: [ReactAV] but in many cases these plugins contain a virus/backdoor that allows the host to run commands.
[00:32:26 ERROR]: [ReactAV] The host also gets a pretty package of all your online players and your logs! (IP Addresses!) That's not great.
[00:32:26 ERROR]: [ReactAV] In an effort to help you, React has simply turned off the server. You may want to look into: 
[00:32:26 ERROR]: [ReactAV] /home/container/plugins/file.jar
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I renamed the file in that example just to show it off a bit and so noone would get the wrong idea about any public plugin that was injected over.

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By having the user use their local copies of the plugins (on their computer before being uploaded to the server) I identified the source jar file and they don't have to redownload everything.

tired heath
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Is React a good plugin, I mean I bought it to test it but the support had the worst english ever as if I would type to an indian internet scammer dude (out of that videos)

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no offense

peak ginkgo
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The lag plugin? I think it's meh

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I'd rather just use timings and spark

tired heath
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Yeah the lag thing

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Just mixed them up,

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^^

peak ginkgo
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Yeah I realized my project shared a name w/ it and just said fuck it

tired heath
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Na I just was reading it on the second screen, I should have done it more carefully

fallen oracle
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Okay but I think I used Javassist at one point for reflection

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Cause org.reflections uses it

potent fossil
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maybe dont force the server off but print a warning until the user specifically adds the plugin to an "ok i reviewed it and it's fine" list idk.

shell vine
limpid comet
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yeah i would do that

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simp big brain

cosmic raft
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strawberries

zealous wedge
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strawberries are a good fruit

cosmic raft
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yes

untold copper
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;-;

marble lark
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hol up is it Halloween rn

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all the mobs on my game are spawning with Pumpkins on

untold copper
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so im learning about descendant selectors in css, just me who feels like i won't be using these too much?

ashen cliff
quasi valley
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burn it

ashen cliff
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It's already burning itself down.

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Oh no.

limpid comet
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wait what's the point of this PR

vernal moth
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Noise gen on the cpu I would assume

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Gpu

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Because noise gen is the slowest part of world gen!!!!11

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The context switch alone will kill that

ashen cliff
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I assume (didn't look at the code, as there are too many spam commits), porting Gloewstones OpenCL noise.

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I can't see them writing their own implementation.

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Tho even the Glowstone implementation isn't perfect, it randomly generates holes/circles.

vernal moth
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For whatever reason I looked at that code

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They stole glowstone stuff, ye, but there is no actual work other than a benchmark

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There are also a bunch of lithium patches

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And a patch that claims to replace the vanilla light engine but only refactored into an interface an a manager to choose between the vanilla engine and nothing else

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One of the patches replaces the seeded random in the noise gen with thread local random, good stuff

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Completely breaking seeded world gen

ashen cliff
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That's good and bad.

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But I'm still waiting for them "making" an async mob tracking branch.

vernal moth
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Heh

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That's the shit

limpid comet
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wait so they have any idea of what they're doing

vernal moth
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No they don't

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That's the whole point of the project

limpid comet
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then why does yatopia exist

ashen cliff
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0 idea.

limpid comet
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the whole point?

ashen cliff
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To pull patches.

limpid comet
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is yatopia ironic?

vernal moth
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They port patches they don't understand and "optimize" then

limpid comet
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but they have to realize it's shit right

vernal moth
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Ivan is 14 or 15

limpid comet
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wtf

vernal moth
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Nuff said

limpid comet
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i was just about to ask how he managed to get people to actually use his fork, but then i realized this is minecraft we're talking about

ashen cliff
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Why? People see Fork of Tuinity, so it must be better right?

vernal moth
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Its advertised to be the best of all worlds

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When it's the worst of all worlds

limpid comet
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than the actual fork

cosmic raft
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wtf discord

limpid comet
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hi kash

cosmic raft
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I go to change my phone number on it

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and it says my new number is already in use by an account

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wat

limpid comet
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bruh

vernal moth
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They also miss advertise

ashen cliff
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I'm going to delete myself now, since that PR is a unholy abomination.

limpid comet
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what the fuck

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what

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messier git history

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bruh

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that's the least of your worries

minor badge
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oh no my git history

cedar spade
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lmao

limpid comet
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why do i recognize MrIvanPlays

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i've seen that name somewhere

ashen cliff
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Everywhere?

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He is currently the only active dev on AuthMe.
~~Meaning, 0 commits in the last year. ~~

cosmic raft
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wtf discord

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like wtf

limpid comet
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oh god

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authme

minor badge
limpid comet
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explains a lot

vernal moth
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Ivan is banned here

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Oh that's why yatopia is so bad proxi, now we know

minor badge
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oh he's violating my licence

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cool

ashen cliff
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Instead of fixing bugs, he decided the want's to rewrite AuthMe...
kekwhyper

vernal moth
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Dmca proxi ^^

limpid comet
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do it

cedar spade
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YATOPIA: Yet Another Tale Of People's Intellectual Absence

limpid comet
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GOTEM

vernal moth
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He violated ppls licence before

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We had to swarm him with comments before he stopped rewriting the authors line of patches

limpid comet
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no way he was doing that

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what an asshole move wtf

minor badge
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im just gonna open an issue

limpid comet
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and i KEEP forgetting that this is the minecraft community

ashen cliff
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INB4 removing your license.

cedar spade
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"Can't break the license if you don't have a license"

minor badge
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TIL committing on other repos closes my own issues elsewhere

cedar spade
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||/s||

limpid comet
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proxi

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did they also add "Yatopia start" comments

minor badge
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i dont care abt that

cedar spade
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Yatopia end

limpid comet
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yeah i know

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where did they take it from? paper?

minor badge
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comment don't matter, it's my code change that's the issue; my own changes are GPL, until they're accepted by aikar (as it's his MIT patch)

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unmerged Paper PR

ashen cliff
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It never ends.

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Spigot forks have no end.

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They get forked, stolen from, till the end of days.

minor badge
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i just opened an issue & unsubscribed

limpid comet
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im gonna subscribe

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i want to see what happens

twin lagoon
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@minor badge πŸ₯Ί

minor badge
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they're probably just gonna fix it, it's a single line in a markdown file

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@twin lagoon helo

twin lagoon
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kashike clappywappy

cosmic raft
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hi

visual egret
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making a macos VM rn.... shhhh

zealous wedge
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purrs

vestal jasper
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hi proxi

ashen cliff
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You need a specially formatted disk.

visual egret
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yeah ik

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although do i go with sosumi or macOS-Simple-KVM

twin lagoon
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sosumi

visual egret
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but the performance...

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now i wait

worn ember
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me: gets job
also me: literally fucks up the first commit

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this is why i stick to minecraft development. no one can see me fuck up there

visual egret
vernal moth
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I blame Firefox

worn ember
#

lets blame the germans

visual egret
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lunar client performs horribly on linux lol

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i get about 50fps on ubuntu while getting ~400fps on windows

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i cant pvp on ubuntu... just impossible

minor badge
ashen cliff
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The monero miner might not be optimized for Linux.

exotic siren
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Can you guys recommend me some plugins to reduce lag and increase tps

visual egret
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no

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dont use a plugin

exotic siren
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yes

void void
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Does anyone know of a plugin like citizens2 that isnt terribly laggy?

visual egret
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citizens2 isnt laggy

twin lagoon
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citizens2 is laggy

ashen cliff
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Everything is laggy.

visual egret
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i run 3 mc servers on a singe board pc and citizens doesent struggle for me....

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

cedar spade
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Schrodinger's Citizens2

void void
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citizens2 was using 95% of my tick

twin lagoon
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citizens is so bad lmao

void void
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and causing tps drops

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it uses it's own entity system for them doesn't it

twin lagoon
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@visual egret and how many players do you have on those 3 mc servers

visual egret
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oh yeah

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max 3

ashen cliff
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πŸ‘

visual egret
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lol

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to be fair it doesent slow me down that much

twin lagoon
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there's your issue

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citizens is ass for performance

visual egret
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*makes own npc plugin*

ashen cliff
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Just use NodeJS MC bots. kekwhyper

void void
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i am too dumb to figure out how to make my own npc plugin

visual egret
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this macos vm is kinda nice

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although ubuntu is a bit annoying

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lemme boot into windows

void void
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are there really no plugins similar to citizens?

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even something entirely config based works for me

subtle flume
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Where should I look for a dev for hire? I need a simple plugin

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πŸ€”

twin lagoon
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spigotmc

worn ember
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slide in michael's dm's, he loves comissions

twin lagoon
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i don't even develop plugins

subtle flume
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I need a plugin that sets all maps to some static location (or completely disables them), because treasure maps generate shitton of lags on server

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Welp

twin lagoon
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disable-treasure-maps: true

subtle flume
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There's something like that? πŸ˜‚

twin lagoon
#

paper.yml

void void
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paper.yml

worn ember
#

that'll be $20 sir

subtle flume
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Lmao

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LMAO

twin lagoon
topaz mortar
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πŸ˜„

worn ember
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told you micheal would do it zoop

subtle flume
#

Thanks lmao

worn ember
#

ok so i'm trying to git rn and im failing hard (as usual)
Is it possible to have a "template" kind of file on a remote, but not track changes of it locally?
I have a file for db connections but its different for every user. So i cant to be able to pull the file, but not keep track of it

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does that make sense?

twin lagoon
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.gitignore

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ignore your template file

worn ember
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its ignored but its still tracking changes thonkeng

void void
#

github is hell

worn ember
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but now the file is just gone xD

topaz mortar
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gut rm --cached your/tracked/file

twin lagoon
#

git isn't github

worn ember
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i did do rm --cached

subtle flume
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gut rm --cached your/tracked/file
git gut

worn ember
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but now my file is not in my repo anymore

void void
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is there a way to get citizens to lag less?

topaz mortar
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Locally it should be present, not on remote.

golden gust
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Yes

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have less NPCs

void void
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i have like 10 total

worn ember
#

but i want it on remote as a template

topaz mortar
#

is there a way to get citizens to lag less?
@void void by removing it.

10k NPC are you crazy?

golden gust
#

beyond that, speak to the plugin author for advice, citizens is a pretty heavy plugin, and pretty sure he has some stuff to help with that a bit

void void
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not 10k npcs

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10

golden gust
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show timings

worn ember
#

not 10k npcs??? are you crazy

void void
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uh one sec

golden gust
#

Also, DED

void void
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i removed it since but i should be abel to find one where it caused lag

golden gust
#

Just rename your config files in the repo as .default or something

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ignore the actual config files

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Otherwise you just bastardize the entire environment

void void
golden gust
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Which, I know you're used to... But, still

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purpur

void void
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purpur is godly

worn ember
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well you see, they're already config files specifically for dev, they override the defaults if you add fields to them

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but changes get tracked still

golden gust
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This is paper, not purpur

void void
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purpur is a paper fork

golden gust
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We have no idea if purpur changes are making it worse, or wtf build 804 is

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Yes, it's a fork, it's not paper

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G1 Young: 89- avg(306.61ms) - rate(31.78s)

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Best guess is work out why GC is slow at banns

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Your server looks fine outside of GC shitting the bed

void void
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you asked for timings ;-; i just asked for tips

worn ember
#

thats like asking AMD why an MSI GPU is not performing well

golden gust
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and stuff like teleporting NPCs and stuff is apprently ouch, etc

topaz mortar
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Or asking Apple why your Hackintosh is working shitty.

golden gust
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Citizens relies heavily on the core of the server for stupid issues

worn ember
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well i solved it by just removing the dev files altogether. they'll just have to figure it out themself how to override it lol

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not my problem

golden gust
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For all we know, purpur pulled in a patch which blows citizens up, it's not really hard to do so

worn ember
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i see like 50 issues about citizens a week

topaz mortar
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All purpur?

void void
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any alternative to citizens would be cool....

worn ember
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nah

void void
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i cant seem to find any outside of API that I'm too lazy to learn java to use

worn ember
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just in general

topaz mortar
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any alternative to citizens would be cool....
@void void zombie with custom mob goals + replacing packetPlayOutMobSpawn with profile out, spawnPlayer, profile remove

golden gust
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Citizens goes too deep, tries to deal with too much crud, and in general, "the way they do it is the way they're always going to do it"

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which has some pros and cons

void void
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@topaz mortar i have no clue what any of that means

golden gust
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pretty much any moron can create an NPC plugin 20x cheaper than citizens

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The issue is getting all the functionality in there

void void
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sounds like pain

vernal moth
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which is why I used zombies for npcs

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you get all the functionality for free without writing one line of nms

void void
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can you apply skins to zombies?

golden gust
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well, you need some packet trickery to make the client think it's a player, but, yea

vernal moth
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no, but my zombie npcs have skins

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because the client views them as player entities

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so they have a player profile

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with the skin

void void
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hmm

vernal moth
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I should move that shit to a public plugin one time

void void
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please do

untold copper
golden gust
untold copper
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like how?

golden gust
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go to a registrar and buy it?

untold copper
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or smthn?

golden gust
untold copper
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ok

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anD?

golden gust
twin lagoon
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then you create a dns A record

worn ember
untold copper
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and that DNS option should come in panel itself right?

worn ember
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sure

untold copper
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when we buy the domain?

twin lagoon
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i'd advise you to move to cloudflare DNS once you bought the domain

worn ember
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or you can do it through cloudflare

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by updating the name servers on registrars site

golden gust
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i mean, you could setup your own DNS servers and do it through config files

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Not that I'd ever recommend that

untold copper
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ok ty

winged panther
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it's possible to setup certain dns ips ?

golden gust
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Registrars generally have control panels, but, I follow the recommendation to move the nameservers to cloudflare as most registrars DNS servers are trash

twin lagoon
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nameservers yes

winged panther
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like 127.X.X.X ?

twin lagoon
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what

worn ember
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yes

golden gust
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what do you mean, "dns ips"

winged panther
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setup a custom dns ip

golden gust
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Yes

worn ember
ashen cliff
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πŸ”₯

winged panther
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to mask ip's

golden gust
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How do you think you're able to let places like cloudflare manage your DNS?

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No

twin lagoon
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you don't use DNS for IP masking or anything

golden gust
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You can't mask IPs with DNS

twin lagoon
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DNS literally resolves your domainname to an IP

golden gust
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The literal entire nature of DNS is being able to go from a domain to an IP address

winged panther
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i messed up sorry

golden gust
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all you can do is rent some form of tunnel/proxy

worn ember
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well cloudflare does that

winged panther
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i ment masking your ip to 127.0.0.1 like this or 192.168.1.x?

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it's possible ?

golden gust
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No

twin lagoon
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you're not making sense

golden gust
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It's literally basic networking

winged panther
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yeah

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thanks

golden gust
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To connect to a server, you need to know where to connect

worn ember
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if anyone could have any ip, how would the internet work lol

golden gust
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Now, you can use a tunnel, e.g. TCPShield, shove a proxy on a server somewhere, for HTTPS or the rich, cloudflare, etc

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But, that's because those services are able to work out where you're trying to connect to and forward the connection there, some party still knows your destination, just, hopefully you can trust those companies more than your average DED

worn ember
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excuse me, i'm very reliable

golden gust
worn ember
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(lets ignore the fact it took me an hour to remove some files from git)

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azure devops is weird

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but also kinda nice

ashen cliff
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It's time.

ashen cliff
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It's done.

void void
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what's done

ashen cliff
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The thing.

smoky python
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Everything

ashen cliff
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Everything.

worn ember
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Wrong

cedar spade
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Oh no

visual egret
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oh no

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a friend just asked me for the ip of my server and hasnt replied since i sent it to him

twin lagoon
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k

cedar spade
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rip

ashen cliff
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Dead.

visual egret
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this could mean 2 things

twin lagoon
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it means nothing

visual egret
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  1. DDoS
cedar spade
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Exactly what I was thinking krusic

visual egret
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  1. afk
ashen cliff
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That's a very limited mindset.

golden gust
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surprise

ashen cliff
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Harm or harm but delayed.

cedar spade
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  1. At keyboard but doing literally anything that isn't playing on your server
ashen cliff
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Maybe, but that's way more farfetched then a DoS attack.

cedar spade
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True

visual egret
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did you know that drugs are bad?

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just saying

ashen cliff
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Not all of them.

visual egret
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some are

ashen cliff
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But not all.

vernal moth
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do you know that alcohol is the worst of all drugs?

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thats why I am not allowed to drink before 4

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so I have to wait another 28 mintues!

ashen cliff
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Become Slav.

visual egret
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before 4 meaning am or pm

mossy vessel
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pm obviously

visual egret
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i assume pm

mossy vessel
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There is no rule for am

ashen cliff
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Now you can drink without regard for your life or the wellbeing of your country.

vernal moth
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the rule also doesn't really apply if you didn't sleep

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cause then you never stopped drinking so you don't start before 4

mossy vessel
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makes sense

vernal moth
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else carnival wouldn't work

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altho carnival is an exception to the rule anyways cause you start at 9

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am

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the first day

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and stop 10am the next Wednesday

visual egret
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the water oxygen thing

void void
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google it

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ok

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i think thats something to do with signed and unsigned integers

visual egret
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on google we get 1000iq questions such as:
Is there an air change event or a way to stop the particles from drowning entities?

void void
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signed half is negative and other half is positive

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that usually means two's complement because they complement each other

golden gust
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EntityAirChangeEvent.

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depends on the context

void void
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i always thought they were unsigned by default

golden gust
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Applying a general rule to stuff like this is unviable and dumb

void void
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wait iirc if binary number stars with 1 its twos complement

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so 1111 should be twos complement