paper's best is on the job
#general
waxen panther
golden gust
Go over your firewall rules, check your router settings, check your ISP even allows servers...
chrome quest
So essentials tells the player where they died when they die, but can I also get it to tell the console where they die when they died?
upper flicker
congrats
waxen panther
:D
potent fossil
๐ฅบ
potent fossil
negatory
shell vine
i dont need help, dont dm me
dull linden
anyone else amazed how optimized papermc is lol
totally random but I very much appreciate it lmao
shell vine
if you like papermc, you will love papermc premium
potent fossil
subscribe to my onlyfans for papermc premium++
dull linden
O.o
shell vine
thats leaf
viral hornet
I agree Sky_Wizard, it's crazy how much Paper have improved Minecraft from the piling hot mess of performance it is by default.
dull linden
Yeah ahaha frfr
I used spigot but tps was always hovering around 19
Now it's a rock solid stable 20 in practically everything I throw at it
lmfao
viral hornet
And no more shitty chunk loading ๐
dull linden
Yep ahaha
viral hornet
.optimize
viral hornet
@wanton pike
void void
c#>java
slim nymph
mighty storm
what does that have to do with linux though
minor badge
has to do with the state of FOSS
waxen panther
xx
novel horizon
Do you really have on your world hundreds of primed tnt or?
inland stump
yessir
novel horizon
you could use /minecraft:kill @e[type=tnt,distance=..50] or so to kill the entities
novel horizon
lol ^^
inland stump
Don't ask XD
chrome quest
So one of my plugins posts in the console when a villager dies. Am I correct in assuming this is essentials X?
vestal jasper
It's not spigot or essentials
It's vanilla
Afaik there's an issue with villagers randomly dying for seemingly no reason so they added automatic logging of abnormal villager deaths for debugging
@chrome quest
potent fossil
mfw they didnt put that behind a debug flag or option
"fuck everyone, everyone gets it even if it doesnt happen on their server. fuck em" - mojang, probably
meager tusk
viral hornet
potent fossil
Camm is allowed to so it's okay
untold copper
im doing the <div> and <span> elements in Html atm uwu
vernal moth
Box model <3
ashen cliff
Flex.
limpid comet
cloud pog
untold copper
whA
worn pasture
Once you understand the box model, things should start to get easier with CSS
untold copper
whats a box model .-.
cedar spade
It's like a model, but box
untold copper
wHaTs A mOdEl
mossy vessel
stinky pineapple
potent fossil
seeing as you havent made it to section 6 "css: the very basics", i wouldnt expect you to know........given that section 8 is "the box model"
so...keep working.
untold copper
oohk
viral hornet
@twin lagoon ๐ฅบ
umbral tiger
waxen panther
join ๐
twin lagoon
twin lagoon
cammy 
twin lagoon
limber knotBOT
is jetbrains toolbox broken for anyone else and not showing EAP4 or EAP5 for intellij?
both work and home machine dont show em...
ashen cliff
vernal moth
For two days in a row now ๐ ๐
ashen cliff
Things I love:
Badly made observer farms,
random flying observers,
people complaining about random flying observers.
void void
remove people
ashen cliff
Well, we made observers unpushable. 
untold copper
I hate HTML tables.
vernal moth
Unless you do emails ๐
cosmic raft
bleh
twin lagoon
hello kashike
cosmic raft
hi
quasi valley
bluh
vernal moth
Nice, twitch is now MITMing your content you stream
To insert "ad commercial in progress" to users with ad blockers
twin lagoon
i never bother watching twitch anymore
the ads are so fucking cancer
everytime you refresh or join in a stream IT'S TIME FOR AN AD
or whenever something exciting is about to happen you'll get fucked
cosmic raft
bring back beam
vernal moth
Yes pls
twin lagoon
they added pre-roll ads too
vernal moth
Those you can adblock tho
The ad breaks mid stream are now backed into the video stream so they are not blockable
So the stream can just stop streaming while the break is going, lol
twin lagoon
the pre-roll ads are hardly avoidable though
there's a guy on r/twitch who has a script that basically just refreshes the page upon each channel
to avoid the pre-roll ads
but that'll slowdown load times
cunning raft
god forbid people who stream are allowed to make money with ads
twin lagoon
was referring to the stadia meme from a week ago
cunning raft
Lmao
I understand what that guy was talking about tho
He was technically right
He just worded his statement very poorly
cedar spade
He would be right if games didn't literally rely on streamers and YouTube channels as a key part of their marketing strategy
And if games were totally linear non-interactive experiences
vernal moth
He is right that company can require ppl to pay to stream
And I would argue that there are games were that would make sense, story driven stuff you rather watch on youtube than play yourself
But, companies would be dum to do it
Nintendo is a good example for that
void void
paying for the license makes sense but i hope it won't happen
worn ember
why am i not getting paid to watch tho?
i'm investing my time to watch those dudes play games, i feel like i should be paid for it
vernal moth
It's not your intellectual property
cunning raft
Yeah legally it makes sense for streamers/let's players to pay for them but in practice no
Most big games have good language allowing the streaming/recording of games but some ones don't
Including among us
I mean it's kinda paying through exposure
Take among as for example, back in August (?) all it took 10 big streamers to boost the game where it is today
Those streamers created more cash flow for the devs than any license they could have paid
Yeah it just makes you look bad
Nintendo doesn't really need the exposure but it's more inde games that benefit the most from this exposure from content creators
cedar spade
Neither is "right", they're both legally valid models for letting people use your game's content
Charging royalties is closer to other industries, but that doesn't make it make any more sense than letting people stream games for free
wide chasm
(Nintendo got rid of their Content Creator program by the way, so you can now just upload gameplay of Nintendo games without having to do anything.)
cunning raft
yeah that was a few years back iirc
tho I think it was because of bad press not because they'd benefit greatly from it
the industry is used to not paying for licenses and anyone who does it will get shamed
wide chasm
Yeah, nobody does it, because very few people will actually pay for such licenses.
The Creator Program was at least a bit better than a license, since you didn't need to pay for it directly afaik, you only share revenue, so it was still a viable option if you really wanted to make videos with Nintendo games. I can't imagine people would pay for a license for uploading game footage tbh.
cunning raft
Creators don't even want to license music lmao
merry talon
I think the sheer adrenaline rush of waking up at 5:45 when I start at 6 is better than any cup of coffee out there
let's see how far into the day it gets me
mighty storm
owo
void void
uhhhhh
org.spigotmc.event.player.PlayerSpawnLocationEvent seems to ignore world?
or is it some plugin conflicting 
minor badge
kek
void void
yeah multiverse core ffs
austere ivy
debugging is kinda pog and I cannot go back to whatever I was doing before
how was I not doing this before
I was just like hur dur let me add a singular print statement before where I think the error is happening and rebuild and restart the entire freaking server
worn ember
hotswapping for the win
void void
๐ฅบ uwu
what would y'all suggest for random teleportation?
wait...
@worn ember you had one, is it still shit?
worn ember
tf you mean shit 
austere ivy
is random teleportation genuinely that difficult?
void void
just poking you casually
worn ember
lol its fine
austere ivy
there seems to be a lot of (competing!) plugins out there, and taking a suuuper quick look at the internals shows a lot of classes
void void
where tf is license
worn ember
its "do whatever tf you want with it" license
austere ivy
like jeez almost a megabyte? what's going on in there?
worn ember
lots of dependencies
cunning raft
use essentials rtp
void void
i don't use essentials
worn ember
void void
(nor cmi if you ask)
cunning raft
what dependencies are you shading dark
void void
ded is shading his momma into rtp jar
austere ivy
oh you're using acf, which is already 300 kb
the jar size makes a bit more sense now
austere ivy
ah so it's not just random teleport
worn ember
so you dont end up in claimed areas
austere ivy
it's.. โจrandom teleportโจ
worn ember
whatever makes you happy
void void
ded add GriefDefender support pl0x
austere ivy
very cool plugin 
worn ember
it has griefdefender support
austere ivy
I still see it in pom
void void
ye my shit is built around gd
cunning raft
Pl0x add serverlistplus support
worn ember
yeah get rekt
worn ember
they didnt have a repo
cunning raft
I want to random tp into my server list
void void
i think gd api was in glare's repo
austere ivy
ah I can't read :)
void void
yes
worn ember
If they had a repo I wouldn't mind
cedar spade
ded pls
worn ember
Bruh
How even
Istg I test that shit like a billion times and then mikro has to break it on the first try
void void
bleh ded if you wanna c it for yourself i'll dm you the ip
void void
k
i guess it conflicts with the way how i'm using the rtp right now
xD
ngl i'd need an api to achieve this in a better way
my rtp plugin best
lol
dispatching rtp command when player exits spawn area basically
worn ember
Api is planned for 2.0 release
void void
no pl0gin 4 u
if it's going to be next week tbfh then it'd be nice kek
otherwise i'll rip it into pieces rn
worn ember
Feel free to help lol. I could use some
void void
btw im using intellij and it runs pretty well i kinda prefer it more than eclipse
void void
goose
worn ember
Lmao
austere ivy
epic new halloween profile picture :)
I don't know why but I really like that cat picture
mighty storm
The hell is going on with YouTube-dl
void void
wdym
limber knotBOT
NewPipe is currently looking where to move to if this will hit them too
olive marlin
I heard GH tried to contact them to restore the repo if they remove the tests using links to copyrighted materials lol
limber knotBOT
just host the test externally 
I wonder if jdownloader uses their own youtube solution
thank god git is resistant to such attacks, imagine if they used SVN xD
slim nymph
github also said they gotta remove the entire rolling cipher breaking code too
i linked the irc chat from the github ceo last night
why did github add a pdf for a suit to a website?
limber knotBOT
"irc chat from the github ceo" wtf
well I sure hope they keep that code and move their shit elsewhere lmao
slim nymph
yeah the ceo joined their irc channel and provided verification over twitter it was him lol
limber knotBOT
and people claim IRC isn't relevant anymore
limber knotBOT
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so you are saying that it's the core team's fault that IRC isn't relevant here anymore? ;_;
slim nymph
few of us want to drop irc completely
twin lagoon
drop IRC
vernal moth
I was "forced" to use discord cause of internal channels
slim nymph
im in favor of shutting down the channel and turning off the bridge ๐
twin lagoon
lul
void void
rip phoenix
limber knotBOT
not sure why people want to always exclude me from their communities
slim nymph
phoenix has a discord
limber knotBOT
guess I have to start promoting Origami more ๐
twin lagoon
no one is excluding you
limber knotBOT
well I don't use it, lol
twin lagoon
you're excluding yourself
slim nymph
you are literally in here, not like your avoiding discord lol
and theres third party light weight clients if you must
void void
aikar suggesting people to violate tos
limber knotBOT
I only will use ones that add "(sent via my linux terminal)" to every message I type though
void void
tos-kissers shitstorm inc
limber knotBOT
runs
slim nymph
and its not actually shutting down lol, others want to keep it still
limber knotBOT
just move it to esper if you want to get away from spigot, lmao
slim nymph
its not about getting rid of spigot lol
limber knotBOT
as if
limber knotBOT
fuck freenode
slim nymph
dunno if im on esper anymore
limber knotBOT
their staff are cancer
limber knotBOT
play more until it doesn't hurt anymore
mossy vessel
Play it more until your fingers fall off
austere ivy
mm no thanks
limber knotBOT
your fingers need to create horn
next wind
it takes like a month of two to not have pain anymore
and depends on the strings youre using and the action
jolly spire
Bungee cord or multiverse
twin lagoon
both are completely different
jolly spire
I'm looking for a simple way to connect multiple worlds
twin lagoon
multiverse
jolly spire
Ok
I know they both can accomplish the same thing, didn't know if one was more complicated
jolly spire
To connect multiple servers with different worlds
But thanks
For the recommendation
golden gust
if you have an extra world or two, MV will generally be fine
twin lagoon
both don't accomplish the same thing
golden gust
if you're expecting to add a few dozen, you really need to spread that over servers
twin lagoon
one is for servers, one is for worlds
jolly spire
Ok thanks
dusk drift
Twitter
untold copper
oh
guys help colspan won't work for me ๐ฆ
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">
<head>
<meta charset="UTF-8">
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0">
<title>Document</title>
</head>
<body>
<table>
<thead>
<tr>
<th colspan="5"><h1>Subscription</h1></th>
<th colspan="5"><h1>Price</h1></th>
</tr>
</thead>
</table>
</body>
</html>
zealous wedge
try throwing out the whole Web browser
untold copper
didn't work ๐ฆ
unkempt drift
is this a serious question? I don't think colspan will work if you haven't actually defined that many columns
untold copper
wai wha
unkempt drift
what are you trying to do?
unkempt drift
can add padding to the table cell
untold copper
nub language pls
minor badge
apply css
limpid comet
good morning
unkempt drift
<th style="padding-right: 6px"></th>
untold copper
wait
unkempt drift
might work
untold copper
can't i
just a min
ooo
got it
<th colspan="5"><h1>Subscription </h1></th>
<th colspan="5"><h1>Price </h1></th>
<th colspan="5"><h1>Support </h1></th>
ย 
ย = nub space
yea this works
unkempt drift
probably not a good solution
limpid comet
not that I'm a CSS god or anything, but why wouldn't you use flex here
limber knotBOT
any of you know a good backup and restore plugin for worlds cuz I'm too lazy to download, delete folders, extract folders, etc. all over again
untold copper
yea ik one
limber knotBOT
I know backup plugins but don't know any that do restores so ye
untold copper
zealous wedge
bash?
unkempt drift
I like how the restorer is coming soon, yet its part of the title
untold copper
f
limber knotBOT
I'm too lazy and want to invoke it without server shutdown/having to SSH in if possible
unkempt drift
ServerFactions
Factions Support coming SOON(tm)
void void
just use btrfs/zfs snapshots my dude
limber knotBOT
does that allow me to do one click restore
limber knotBOT
hmmmmmmmmm
one command sounds neato
how 2 do
I still have to guess the name tho
void void
robo, do you want to jump into the rabbit hole
limber knotBOT
in the name of being too lazy and automation opportunities, yes
void void
i do server snapshots on every restart and (staging) server has sanoid based 5min snapshot policy
limber knotBOT
this is a server I don't care too much about so the more I can automate fixes and stuff the better
untold copper
Yey @unkempt drift I did it xD
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">
<head>
<meta charset="UTF-8">
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0">
<title>Coding Exercise 5</title>
</head>
<body>
<table>
<thead>
<tr>
<th colspan="1"><h1>Subscription </h1></th>
<th colspan="1"><h1>Price </h1></th>
<th colspan="1"><h1>Support </h1></th>
</tr>
</thead>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td colspan="1"><h2>Free</h2></td>
<td colspan="1"><h2>Free</h2></td>
<td colspan="1"><h2>N/A</h2></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="1"><h2>Personal</h2></td>
<td colspan="1"><h2>$9.99</h2></td>
<td colspan="1"><h2>Weekdays</h2></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="1"><h2>Business</h2></td>
<td colspan="1"><h2>$49.99</h2></td>
<td colspan="1"><h2>24/7</h2></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</body>
</html>
it worked
void void
use paste
untold copper
o yea will do
void void
next time
untold copper
limber knotBOT
not having a message char limit
untold copper
kek
limber knotBOT
ok, one other backup question that doesn't involve restoring, what do you use for automated offline backup e.g. to onedrive, google drive, etc.
unkempt drift
why do you have a bunch of colspan="1"s now
austere ivy
past that and discord automatically turns it into a nice message.txt for you :)
limber knotBOT
attachments
untold copper
DriveBackupV2 then
golden gust
2020
limber knotBOT
offsite is the word
golden gust
protip: Don't use guides from 2002
limber knotBOT
learning from a book in 2008?
golden gust
We haven't used tables for formatting in well over a decade
untold copper
im just learning basic html atm
ashen cliff
SuperProTip: Use guides from 1998.
limber knotBOT
Btw I learned about HTML in the cheesiest book title
it's a good book (but dated as it uses tables in its last chapter) but the title/series name is great
golden gust
mfw
untold copper
Lol
worn ember
lmao
limber knotBOT
thanks for the plugin mr.tables
untold copper
who me?
untold copper
oh him nvm
limber knotBOT
his commits indicate some concerns tho https://github.com/MaxMaeder/DriveBackupV2/commit/256823b4d8463c72cc51a96a3ab2153d2c1bc140
limber knotBOT
yoda-sad-upset-tired-star-wars-gif
untold copper
o-o
mossy vessel
thx for ping
limber knotBOT
hmm lots of commits...
Oh I knew the name was familiar
it's a fork of ratismals
idk why he didn't fork it though..
ya he recloned and pushed instead of just clicking fork :c
IMO you'd think that a backup plugin should be relatively stable and not have as many commits but yea idk what this guy's been up to for a couple years...
limber knotBOT
fixed update warning....?????
and not using maven interpolation?
why does he have an update checker what's goin on here
that does not do it.....
limber knotBOT
ikr
I did use commands once cuz Sounds API in bukkit was lacking
I brought it up once in #spigot and md5 shortly after added API to support all the stuff
limber knotBOT
nice
settin up a spam mailer serbur???
on windows too oooo
opencollective dum lol they actually forced a banner and default disabled pages for a day for some political thing once lol
a day or week, can't recall
vernal moth
nah this is just a project I use at work that I want to debug
its actually really cool
.g directus
limber knotBOT
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limber knotBOT
well, at least he's responsive, which makes sense given his high commit activity https://github.com/MaxMaeder/DriveBackupV2/commit/fb6ae6346a12ecff859e4fd6ff9a56779b8edf3f#commitcomment-43703435
void void
Paper is the best
fallen oracle
dull linden
Paper is the best
Facts
limber knotBOT
on semi-unrelated note that guy still hasn't clarified that he means sponge GP
worn ember
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
limber knotBOT
but at least nobody's asked about that recently so I guess his "disinformation" has slowed xd
worn ember
you
leaden quiver
may you offer me a plugin for playing real songs?
limber knotBOT
the one I used to use isn't open source and now fires deprecation warnings
My first resource was a nbs pack of Christmas songs
and after being up for half a decade it was randomly deleted due to some moderator discussion at spigot
it had to be approved initially so idk why all of a sudden it was changed
My only theory is that someone who was mad at me went through my resources, saw that it had good reviews and reported it
wide chasm
Why would NBS songs get deleted?
limber knotBOT
that or they hate Christmas
wide chasm
You can with resource packs
warm anchor
You can send the chat a YouTube link
limber knotBOT
was pretty sad... like, couldn't it at least be grandfathered in, everybody liked it
leaden quiver
stefvanschie how? ๐
limber knotBOT
and I published it cuz I was once looking for nbs Christmas songs and found none
leaden quiver
I do not want it only for me
wide chasm
Create a resource pack, send players the resource pack, play the song
leaden quiver
ugh
warm anchor
Idk if itโs a good idea to force player lists to your songs. 
leaden quiver
ive got another idea ๐ is it possible to play radio ingame
on join
EterNity they suggested that ๐
limber knotBOT
anyways nowadays if I were to make a Christmas pack it'd be Gregorian chant lol but I also don't want to send players a pack just for that
warm anchor
Idk that sounds like those website that auto play music to me
limber knotBOT
mcjukebox is prolly the thing you're looking for maybe
leaden quiver
I think that it plays only minecraft sounds but not so sure
limber knotBOT
no
austere ivy
mcjukebox is epic
I used that a looong time ago on me and my friends' private mc server
I made my house have some music and my basement have other and it.. was great
limber knotBOT
it's a plugin that links to a webpage, which syncs music to whatever you do ingame
limber knotBOT
so, still webpage reliant, but synced up
pseudo solstice
Most effective way to crash a server?
twin lagoon
why
vast portal
@pseudo solstice theres a bug with certain vclips that crash servers
vernal moth
lets not share such exploits outside of #report-a-dupe lol
ashen cliff
Good thing we don't have access to that.
azure wagon
๐๐ป
ashen cliff
Also no idea but one plugin causes the server to nuke itself if you go too deep.
vernal moth
its our responsible disclosure channel
twin lagoon
the only effective way i can imagine right now is the recipe book crash shit
but it's already patched so
vernal moth
if you wanna disclose a exploit, tell staff and they give you a secret role
then you become part of the cool kids club
ashen cliff
Anyway, it's a plugin issue not a Bukkit issue.
pseudo solstice
Idk if it's a plugin glitch but sometimes I can dupe lilypads using fast place if the server lags
twin lagoon
that's client lag
pseudo solstice
F
golden gust
I think just about anybody working on server software knows at least one or two ways to crash a server
ashen cliff
I always forget about the going too deep crash and sometimes do it by mistake.
ashen cliff
So just for 1.8?
vernal moth
what exactly is your goal here?
cunning raft
inb4 2b2t dumbass
worn ember
excuse me, i haf a semi anarchi server but if u hack u git ban
mighty storm
Is there a plugin that detects when events are cancelled and by what plugin? Probably not but that would be very epic if possible
mighty storm
smh
worn ember
Jan had something i think
vernal moth
just add a breakpoint
ashen cliff
Insert 50 breakpoints in the main loop.
cunning raft
make a BukkitPluginDispatchEventEvent
worn ember
@mighty storm https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/eventdebugger.82055/
limber knotBOT
epic
cunning raft
written in kotlin
mighty storm
me figuring out which kotlin emote i should use
ashen cliff
Since #general is infinitely more useful than #paper-dev.
How to change the output strength of a observer?
ashen cliff
Since, changing it to anything other then 15, just makes it emit 0.
cunning raft
probably need nms
ashen cliff
Since this looked way too easy: https://posili.me/i/2020-10-29_19-28-21.png
But at least, we don't have to worry about observer farms anymore... since well, they don't work anymore.
worn ember
isnt the limit 15 anyway?
cunning raft
yeah but they're just saying it only works with 15 or 0
ashen cliff
Correct.
worn ember
i mean, i dont think redstone knows how to handle anything more than 15
ashen cliff
So if it's not 15, it's 0.
cunning raft
dark
ashen cliff
I'm trying to go lower.
cunning raft
there are numbers between 0 and 15
worn ember
wtf since wen?
ashen cliff
Not in his world.
worn ember
sorry thought you wanted to go higher
worn ember
well maybe dum question, but does it work properly on spigot?
ashen cliff
Build tools...
Yeah, give me 50 years to test that out.
I'd really want a link, even if it includes a monero miner.
vernal moth
.g spigot download with monero miner
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ashen cliff
Epic.
vernal moth
kek
limber knotBOT
nice
ashen cliff
Even by our new masters.
ashen cliff
Good. Spigot has the same issue.
And I'm not touching NMS any time soon.
Just so someone can add that to their cured stuff list.
limpid comet
255 is the build height correct
ashen cliff
Yes.
limber knotBOT
remember wen 128
limpid comet
thanks
i needed to move something up to the height limit and i forgot if it was 250 or 255
worn ember
banned
void void
it should be 1024
limpid comet
if you're already going to 1024, why not just make it unlimited
limber knotBOT
no thx until you find out how to reduce chunk/region sizes
void void
because this isnt calculus
limpid comet
modern compression
void void
no limits to infinity
void void
yes
limpid comet
the limit of our human abilities is counting to 1024
ashen cliff
Done.
void void
yes
ashen cliff
Now I need a way to stop fish from getting formal education.
Since that FishSchool tick is a bit too hardcore for me.
limber knotBOT
fishes
void void
send them off to interment camps then
limber knotBOT
fish is plural
void void
no education
limber knotBOT
use it rite
ashen cliff
Slav.
void void
are you actually a bot
limber knotBOT
u r actually a bot
void void
oohhh can i hijack the bot then
limber knotBOT
u'd just hijack urself
ashen cliff
I'm actually a real AI.
vernal moth
lets invite chester in here
void void
but since i am the bot now i would also hijack the bot
limpid comet
chester 
limber knotBOT
agree
limpid comet
let's get syscraft and chester to communicate
see what shenanigans they get up to
limber knotBOT
dahek is a syscraft
void void
its like syskill
limber knotBOT
chester fake?
limpid comet
limpid comet
look at those beautiful tick times
nobody has better tps than me
(ignore the 44 i filled the paper fixlight queue with like 900 chunks)
ashen cliff
There we go. Double #paper-help b8 planted.
ashen cliff
60 players.
ashen cliff
And every single one of them has a lag machine.
limber knotBOT
worn ember
block game: cant even run at 20tps
Ultra realistic phsysics: ez clap
https://youtu.be/F0QwAhUnpr4
limpid comet
lol yeah when all you're doing is that you can optimize pretty well
(still very cool tech tho)
limpid comet
dear god
limber knotBOT
how does that even happen
limpid comet
im taking a timings report rn
worn ember
robo why is ur server trash
limpid comet
gimme 35 seconds
limber knotBOT
u like that graph?
limpid comet
robo
limber knotBOT
it's amazing
limpid comet
you're not even using aikars flags
limpid comet
what's wrong with you
ashen cliff
Look at that EPIC ZGC time.
ashen cliff
I'm still chilling with ZGC: https://posili.me/i/2020-10-29_20-12-26.png
Let's hope Aikar doesn't get to see this abomination.
limber knotBOT
he has
ashen cliff
Good.
golden gust
We already know it's an abomination
limber knotBOT
he congratulates me on breaking the graph
golden gust
and that's just what ZGC cares to show
ZGC literally stalls threads allocating memory if it can't keep up but feels that it doesn't need to run a collection just yet
limpid comet
2s every 12s
limber knotBOT
u aint paying me to give u memory or clean this heap
limpid comet
: |
worn ember
skedulin 
limber knotBOT
omg @nossr50 ur mcmmo save task is a laggin
golden gust
sync IO woo
worn ember
me: trying to be productive
intellij: haha ide go crasshhh
limber knotBOT
doesn't crash on me but sure does like eating my ram
worn ember
maybe dont use 5gb then wtf
limber knotBOT
almost comparable to a web browser.
not yet, dum webpages still in the faraway lead for consumption
worn ember
intellij is far above anything else lol
limber knotBOT
I spot more than one google chrome
but ya mine have never got that high
that's comparable
worn ember
looks like i'll have to upgrade to 32gb
ashen cliff
Just download more ram.
visual egret
limber knotBOT
who wants to know a cool trick
visual egret
me
limber knotBOT
want faster swap?
ashen cliff
NVMe swap?
ashen cliff
Mad lad.
worn ember
or hear me out, use RAM
ashen cliff
Well, in memory compression already does that tho.
visual egret
yo does anyone know a way to stop running out of vram?
3gb isnt quite enough for half life alyx
visual egret
what?
worn ember
idk why common is a lava bukkit, but i do agree its a hot pile of shite
limpid comet
@visual egret get a higher vram card?
you can't "stop running out of vram" it depends on what game you're playing
esp. with alyx
vr games suck up vram
visual egret
i think i would have taken that into consideration if i had enough money
worn ember
vwam
limber knotBOT
had to enable swap on that server I pasted timings on or it'd randomly die
ashen cliff
Difference between ZGC and G1 on my trashcan setup?
ZGC: Less TPS then G1, but somewhat flat TPS,
G1: ZGC + 2 TPS, BUT with SPIKES!
limber knotBOT
wut ur trashcan
ashen cliff
My 9900k trashcan.
limber knotBOT
mine's a 1GB VM
worn ember
is that a production server?
ashen cliff
Sadly.
It's my insanity testing ground really.
Since I do work for bigger servers with my ๐๏ธ ideas.
wide chasm
?warn @wanton pike This is not the place for recruiting players for your server
leaden oxideBOT
lowexer#1118 has been warned. || This is not the place for recruiting players for your server
limber knotBOT
o
he did it on more than one dumcord
wut u mean oops
so, uh, is the timings site ever going to get updated to the latest repo state Aikar? The .warn-med coloring that I fixed in august is still wrong on the live site :S
how was that an oops
agile portal
is there a place in here to ask questions about java unrelated to paper
limber knotBOT
I must know how that was an oops
wide chasm
Not a specific place, but in here is fine
agile portal
So
hi```got an idea how to get rid of this? Happens when using kotlinc and the flags are used nowhere
short yarrow
is redis pub/sub the same as rabbitmq?
minor badge
I guess the principle is the same in a sense
they're quite different otherwise though
stiff yarrow
I have 32GB because of IntelliJ, I think the most I've seen it get to is 27GB
(total system usage not IntelliJ)
mossy vessel
I'd buy
mighty storm
I swear, every time i open up anything google drive related it tells me the trash is changing
worn ember
@quasi valley great memes
cosmic raft
@mighty storm did you know that
From 13 October, items will be automatically deleted forever after they've been in your bin for 30 days.
mighty storm
Oh really
stiff yarrow
google drive has a trash?
novel horizon
Yes
worn ember
took me a while to figure out why my code wasnt working 
turns out i was using == instead of equals which i override
stiff yarrow
I made a similar mistake but realized it pretty quick, tends to happen for me after I use a lot of =='s and then get to something where I need to equals that isn't a String and I forget to use it
wide chasm
I think IJ gives a warning for using == on objects
worn ember
no
stiff yarrow
it doesn't unless you change your inspections
green turret
Hi
worn ember
what the command again to get out of the git stuff?
stiff yarrow
git stuff?
worn ember
commandline
stiff yarrow
am confus
worn ember
idk how to get out of it
limpid comet
what is git stuff
golden gust
vim?
stiff yarrow
are you asking how to exit vim/nano?
limpid comet
:q
golden gust
esc, to exit input mode, and then :wq to write and quit
golden gust
You can also set the editor to a more... erm... idiot friendly editor, like nano
stiff yarrow
the git thing is opened by whatever editor you tell git to use, which tends to be vim on most machines I install it on
sometimes its vi ๐ฑ
worn ember
i dont even know what the default is on windows
stiff yarrow
windows ๐ฑ
wide chasm
I think mine was vim as well on windows
green turret
So we have this tiny repo at work with a couple of little internal command line tools in it. I managed to convince my colleague to just make the tool he was writing behave like a UNIX tool, you know, produce an output that is pipe-friendly. He did, so I decided to demonstrate just how useful that behavior is by piping the output into cowsay and lolcat so a pretty little rainbow cow is saying the serial number of one of our IoT devices. Not the best demo, but the reactions were pretty good.
waxen panther
@quasi valley uwu
wide chasm
I've got a beautiful git message with my struggles
green turret
I should probably come up with a more useful example.
worn ember
lol why does this open a browser window
limber knotBOT
vim, the only text editor where you have to go online to figure out how to use it
worn ember
green turret
o.O
golden gust
on *nix it uses the man page
green turret
Do you have man pages open in browsers?
stiff yarrow
vim probably has man pages explaining it
worn ember
apparently
golden gust
I'm guessing on windows there is no man tool, so it just goes to a local html copy
limber knotBOT
using man
stiff yarrow
what was that thing that colored man pages again, I swear someone recommended it to me 
golden gust
Sorry, Robo, maybe it;ll be on the microsoft KB one day
green turret
You don't mean tldr?
golden gust
(just, gl looking for it)
stiff yarrow
I use man during arch installs, not often outside of that
worn ember
well it was not wrong, i do use chrome to figure out what the fuck i'm doing
green turret
How do you find out how to use the tools then? Do you just google?
golden gust
and clearly it works
limber knotBOT
the tool tells me
like nano c:
I could ask y u all on dumcord and not using a bouncer and IRC, the clearly superior chat protocol
green turret
I don't know how to respond to that about nano. Like, some tools don't have UIs xD
As for IRC vs Discord. Can you IRC folks do... THIS...
(just imagine I hopped into voice chat just now)
green turret
Colors are not voice chat, what the fuck are you talking about
limber knotBOT
ur feature is not chat. colors r.
green turret
That's dumb.
stiff yarrow
I imagine all IRC elitists are professional larpers, over 40, and spend their spare time grinding up flash drives to freebase their favourite BSD distros
worn ember
but can your dum irc client do this? (โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
thats what i thought
green turret
Good job.
limber knotBOT
ok dum bot
worn ember
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
green turret
Robo the help you need can't be found here, buddy
green turret
Okay, your inability to do things has made me tired. I'm going to bed.
limber knotBOT
.issweepydiamondyet
.md678685
(RoboMWM) ** EssentialsX has 2720 closed issues**
viral hornet
@twin lagoon ๐ฅบ
twin lagoon
๐ฅบ
void void
@unreal quarry ping, does your double_nether_height.zip still work?
i don't seem to get it working on 1.16.3 anymore
void void
datapack
unreal quarry
i don't seem to get it working on 1.16.3 anymore
@void void only on paper and it's forks, yes
limber knotBOT
datapack
unreal quarry
its a bit finicky to initially get it working (idk why). how i do it is:
- startup server to let the nether initially create the directory structure
- shut down server
- delete all the mca files (not the entire regions directory)
- add the datapack to main world (the level-name specified in server.properties, not the nether directory)
- turn server back on.
void void
oic
unreal quarry
i think its a bukkit issue, because vanilla it'll create the first time from the datapack settings
but, vanilla has the bug where decorators dont work above 128 still
(i fixed that in paper)
worn ember
no u
unreal quarry
@void void edited the steps i take for clarity ^
austere ivy
any pumpkin carving ideas?
limber knotBOT
yes, that very message
worn ember
pumpkin cravings
unreal quarry
amazing
@void void worked? ^_^
any pumpkin carving ideas?
@austere ivy you're one of those people, huh? cant just settle with the traditional scary face, huh?
void void
yes billy
basically solved two problems with your pack
- nether is complicated in every direction now, not only in x/z lol
- glitching on top of the nether is literally useless
worn ember
hm, i wonder if can support custom nether heights properly for rtp
or worlds in general
void void
max is 256 anyway
worn ember
yeah but the normal nether stops halfway
so i just hardcoded a height limit
ig theres not really much i can do about that lol
void void
you could make nether height configurable tbfh
or add max considerable y in general for worlds
worn ember
yeah, i mean its kind of a niche thing tho
i'll add it if someone bitches about it (that isnt you)
void void
smh gotta do everything myself
worn ember
now to figure out what to do with my plugin support.
My initial idea was to make addons (with dependencies) that you can add to it.
Benefit to that would be that i can get rid of the 50 dependencies in my pom
But i'm not really sure if thats a realistic thing
but then i'd have to maintain addons too yuck
short yarrow
If I have an API, but it has to call other API's then the response time should increase a pretty decent amount right?
austere ivy
I might do ๐
worn ember
@short yarrow depends, you can cache results, significantly speeding up response times
but otherwise yes, it'll be quite a bit slower
generally a request takes about 20-50ms (all depending on what you do and the server etc)
unreal quarry
- nether is complicated in every direction now, not only in x/z lol
- glitching on top of the nether is literally useless
@void void #2 is my favorite reason ^_^
austere ivy
you guysโll never guess what Iโm doing
golden gust
killing simp?
austere ivy
bingo
unreal quarry
@austere ivy
worn pasture
hot
worn ember
potent fossil
killing simp?
@golden gust y u so obsessed with me
golden gust
I mean, I consider you a k bud
And, like
I just wanna watch you suffer
But, hey, 'lest I'm honest
worn ember
