I'd like to get my folklore CD sent to Occupied O
#general
worn ember
kk
potent fossil
what's a good auto backup solution for a linux server (just have one folder that needs it, really, but a full system snapshot wouldn't be terrible i suppose?) short of buying a separate storage server and just running rsnapshot?
limber knotBOT
i've been using Duplicati and it's worked pretty well... though i haven't had to actually test it yet
mighty storm
dang z0w0 with the fancy links
potent fossil
very noice
limber knotBOT
i like to make things look nice ok
it's a shame that discord proper is shitty and makes me do the ugly versino
*version
I use rory.cat to view lovely pictures of ory
RORY
rory (and her pictures) are lovely
mighty storm
:3
limber knotBOT
!stots
!stats
Uptime: 1 days, 8 hours, 58 minutes, 7 seconds
Message Handling: 3ms / 1ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 37196 (6.0%)
Messages from Discord: 582774 (94.0%)
mighty storm
6% :(
limber knotBOT
aww the percentage is going down
come help fix that c-h-e-w
lemme make a rory irc bot
yeah!
use KittehIRCClientLib
Of course :3
or something in ruby i guess
have u seen that ircv3 feature table
cinch is like 90% red
lmao
yeah
true canyon
uwu
potent fossil
i've heard that mbaxter is sexy
dont think emoji me
or thonk emoji me or any emoji that shows lack of complete thought about a matter
dont boo me, im right and you know it
golden gust
stfu simp
potent fossil
mighty storm
thought that said scary
limpid comet
version: 1.16.1
mem flags: xmx1g xms20g
i thought we were just doing stereotypes lol
dear lord
golden gust
implying the sterotypes aren't based on real servers
limpid comet
never said that, they come from somewhere after all :p
potent fossil
doesnt seem like cmi is the cause of the issues
serene bolt
Oct 16, 2020 8:56 PM - Oct 16, 2020 9:01 PM
timings length is super short
limpid comet
seems like they just need to get entites under control. idk I find it hard to view timings on mobile so I'm most likely incorrect
serene bolt
they need to run a timings for a longer period of time to be able to come to anything conclusive
golden gust
It doesn't paste the full 26 hours, just whatever is configured in paper.yml
mighty storm
why are all the ads mr beast having honey
limpid comet
ads 
untold copper
CMI is fine, if you disable all the modules that you're not using in modules.yml. I run it with like 10 modules enabled and it hardly causes any lag :/
zealous wedge
"cmi is fine, if you disable most of it"
limpid comet
at that point why wouldn't you just use independent (open source??!) plugins
cunning raft
disabling shit in CMI doesn't do anything
it just hides it away
nothing is actually disabled so you're still dealing with perf deficits
just use EssX+plugins that specialize in features you want
all in one plugins are usually bad
EssX is different because it's actually the first and only well made all in one plugin
potent fossil
Please don't harass people for using software/plugins that you don't like. We know that some plugins are not that well received in this community, but as long as they are not causing the issue itself, you shouldn't harass people for using them.
And in that timings, it wasn't causing the issues as far as I could tell
so take a chill pill
cunning raft
mini mod
potent fossil
@ all yall
I mean if the staff themselves dont wanna follow the rule, then who is gonna actually enforce it
Maybe it should just be removed from the CG
Because nobody wants to follow it
cunning raft
go back to bed simple, I was destroying them with facts and logic 😎
potent fossil
yeah, ok
zealous wedge
wow zrips is such a good tester
potent fossil
except for the fact that you posted somebody's timings and made fun of it for using cmi
but yes, ok
ok
well you have fun with that, im done with this already. perhaps follow your own CG
thanks goodbye tootaloo
cunning raft
chew just posted the timings simple
wasn't even targeted on a person
but you're right, mods ban me
wiz
ready your hammer
cunning raft
minecoin
mighty storm
fair tbh
it's like i can only join 1 server in a session
then i gotta reboot the whole app
limpid comet
do I need to wrap ?s in 's for my jdbc preparedstatements
potent fossil
shouldn't need to
limpid comet
thanks :p
no sql injections here
well, i'm sure i'll mess up somewhere, this is is my first real experience with jdbc
potent fossil
well if you have questions just ask
limpid comet
i've played around with manipulating mysql dbs here and there
thanks
ok wait
using hikari's datasource like this:
mighty storm
though we suggest #paper-dev so it doesnt get buried in the memery here
potent fossil
yeah whatever, there is selective rule enforcement here blue
go on over to the dev channel
limpid comet
try (var con = dataSource.getConnection()) {
// do stuff
}
is conn closed automatically outside of the try statement
alright i'll head over next
golden gust
yes
cunning raft
var 
cunning raft
👍
pulsar wigeon
🔨
stiff yarrow
Couch gaming after work is heaven
untold copper
EXAMS OVER YAYYYYYYYY
limpid comet
:partyparrot:
potent fossil
@mossy vessel did Mr.Snipa pay royalties to you for that gif usage?
potent fossil
ok take a chill pill
potent fossil
alright, ive had enough absolute children for one day
untold copper
now 6 more months to do the same shit and suffering :D
cunning raft
[YT]
unreal quarry
i'm so glad i was done with school 20 years ago
untold copper
@cunning raft yes a sad tribute
I used to have time to edit vids
then 9th grade happened
short yarrow
Do you guys use the terminal inside the IDE or do you have a terminal open and use that instead
limpid comet
both
terminal inside IDE for mvn/git stuff and an external git bash to run my dev server
vestal jasper
🍿 
cosmic raft
alrighty
mighty storm
l
limpid comet
god.. my code is so much cleaner now that im using jdbc
dear lord
it's actually readable!!!
minor badge
you mean jdbi? o.O
sterile pine
potent fossil
hmm.
chrome quest
What’s the command to make a thunderstorm?
minor badge
/weather set storm iirc?
chrome quest
That’s apparently just rain.
merry talon
minor badge
@sterile pine dont change your nick back to what it was
ivory drum
can anyone recommended some anti cheat plugins? theres a lot.
ashen cliff
All of them at once.
vernal moth
Good moderators
worn ember
if i have a dependency built from local source, can i debug it?
eg app a depends on b, can i put breakpoints in b and expect it to work properly?
golden gust
You'd need to do it from your project that is being debugged, but, yes
worn ember
ah right
pseudo pilot
playing phasmophobia at 2am in the dark wasnt a good idea
worn ember
or was it
doesnt seem to work for relocated packages
or im messing something else up
i think its using a cached version of acf instead of my own compiled one 
nvm its just not calling the methods
visual egret
my dad just tested positive for the virus
ouch :(
i love the Title object in the papermc api
much better than spigots and bukkits implementation
coarse matrix
how do i fix the errors that keep spamming after downgrading from version 234 again
they're massive
visual egret
you shouldnt be downgrading
vestal jasper
Oskar you're missing some context here
mental meadow
Load a backup, don't downgrade
vestal jasper
234 had an issue pretty much corrupting chunks / worlds in a way
233 and 235 are the same
but yeah the only solution is to load a backup of your worlds like aurora said
coarse matrix
yeah i know everyone that was online on 234 had their base reset
backup is a week old so i better not load it if i can use co rebuild
so 235 is safe eh
vestal jasper
235 reverts the code that caused the issue in the first place
235 will not fix worlds loaded into 234
so it'll still fail to load chunks that were loaded into 234
visual egret
is there some way to check if a download is safe before updating?
visual egret
like automatically
vestal jasper
no
golden gust
No....
if there was, we would have caught it
I even ran that on a test server and didn't notice it myself
vestal jasper
should also wait a couple hours before using new builds :)
coarse matrix
well i'm getting massive errors on 235 after using 234
viral hornet
Yeah, let others find the issues for you 😛
vestal jasper
as these things are typically found rather quickly
235 reverts the code that caused the issue in the first place
235 will not fix worlds loaded into 234
so it'll still fail to load chunks that were loaded into 234
visual egret
so no automatic updates?
golden gust
Provide the error, I'm wondering what it is
vestal jasper
you need to restore a backup
golden gust
It's almost like literally every. single. time. somebody asks about automatic updates we tell them it's a stupid idea...
coarse matrix
vestal jasper
I'm not joking when I say you should perform extensive testing on anything you update prior to using it on prod
visual egret
yeah... i know, just thought
golden gust
oof, yea, I can't repair those then
vestal jasper
yeah, restore to a world backup
golden gust
That's a PITA, I thought that the header wasn't supposed to save until after the chunk saved successfully
visual egret
oh btw i found a plugin that provides old bukkit snowball mechanics
coarse matrix
well restoring a backup is going to be extremely complicated and undoable, because only 6 areas are affected and only those areas spam that error, so ill have to select those chunks
golden gust
The joyous part is that if you do your backups sanely, you can literally point WE to them and use the restore tool
coarse matrix
otherwise everything is going to be rolled back a week
okay thanks for letting me know, will look into that
ashen cliff
If Minecraft Region Fixer actually detects those issues, it can auto replace them from backups.
coarse matrix
i simply copy the world over to a ftp backup drive owo
visual egret
is git a good way to do backups?
vestal jasper
How do you manage to run a server for 6 years with 0 backups
How do you not encounter any issues in that entire timespan
ashen cliff
By being Slovenian.
Every failed server = rank reset = more money.
twin lagoon
yeah i saw that it broke shit
@minor badge might know more
92b99cde #501: Add PersistentDataHolder to Chunk
golden gust
No
Basically, the region file is pointing to a bad area now
Tuinity's patch to recalc region file headers is basically the only fix here
vestal jasper
o
twin lagoon
monkeys 
ashen cliff
Sky.
vestal jasper
"it's not raining!"
"oh wait it's cloudy as shit"
meager tusk
Michelle
twin lagoon
idriz 
meager tusk
viral hornet
Rare photo of the UK
@vernal moth Why did you have to take that at such a painful angle 😂
Looks nice though
vestal jasper
I thought it said "it does appear"
vestal jasper
golden gust
It has a mode where it rescans the region file
twin lagoon
o
golden gust
I have no idea if that's a setting or not, or if it's not gonna capture that one for some reason
I just knew he had a patch around that aspect
twin lagoon
mmm i'm not seeing a system property
although if someone wants to, could probably fork tuinity and add a system property to force it
meager tusk
ok
twin lagoon
idriz 
meager tusk
minor badge
idriz 
meager tusk
proxi
golden gust
oh, it only cares about header corruption so I can see
vestal jasper
yeah in leaf's patch there seems to be no way to force it
visual egret
guys whats the difference between PaperServerPingEvent
and
ServerPingEvent
twin lagoon
one is paper
visual egret
correction:
minor badge
visual egret
does MOTD get cut off when pinging a backend server through bungeecord?
theoretically, i could put JSON into the motd and read it through bungee as a matchmaking system
viral hornet
meager tusk
spigot 
golden gust
They have different problems
limpid comet
I go to sleep and you guys break everything lol
golden gust
Basically, it's a "their fuckup induced our fuckup", we assume that data isn't mangled
worn ember
assuming in 2020
golden gust
- spigot was reading the wrong thing
- We had assumptions that wrong things wouldn't be read
limpid comet
ah, that'll do it :p
worn ember
i mean, thats more on spigot than paper tbh
limpid comet
Well, I'm impressed with the turn around speed on that one, good catching it
Yeah certainly
limpid comet
acfcompletions?
worn ember
its acf test plugin
limpid comet
sounds like cloud with extra steps
frigid ferry
lool
(at) DarkEyeDragon you need to use commandManager.enableUnstableAPI("brigadier");
minor badge
youre spending so much time on smth when converting to cloud would be faster smh
frigid ferry
^ though
minor badge
city's even looking into doing a reimpl of selectors (woo 1.8 support!), and then doing custom selectors
limpid comet
what a legend
worn ember
good for him i guess lol
golden gust
Just sitting here wondering, why is it that whenever I have a "oh, that's been well tested, they can't have fucked that up", do I sit here having to deal with an upstream merge going sideways
worn ember
cuz you decided to work on a spigot fork
minor badge
because imagine testing stuff beyond just making sure it works in 1 test case
vestal jasper
magine if everyone cooperated on ensuring builds are safe
like, a build comes out, everyone tests it, and even if it works well they still give it the 2 hour window before using it on prod
limpid comet
that's what you should be doing
golden gust
Heck, imagine if people just followed the advice we tell them literally. every. single. update.
limpid comet
don't just mindlessly update
vestal jasper
Most people skip one of the steps I listed, blue. The step being to wait the 2 hours EVEN if it works fine for them.
unique snow
Look usually I'd say.. well there is only so much testing you can do. However in this case, it deals with something important (chunks). Even the commit messages say so. Realistically you'd want to ensure you generate and save chunks under varying conditions. Including full reloads, deleting random chunks, etc.
minor badge
@golden gust um wtf why are my chunks broken? my server autoupdated and now theyre just gone wtf
golden gust
feature™
minor badge
why must you ALWAYS break my stuff
vernal moth
I always hold my phone strangely when I just use one hand @viral hornet lol
minor badge
i hate paper, going back to spigot
vernal moth
Because it rests on my pinky
vestal jasper
Like, if everyone tested it and waited the 2 hours, even if it works fine in testing for 95% of people, the other 5% will report the issue and everyone else is still safe because they waited.
limpid comet
nah proxi, craftbukkit for me
unique snow
This is why you make sure you write down your seeds and use CoreProtect as a backup strategy. Then if you have to you can just replay all the actions that occurred since the server was created.
worn ember
"wtf you mean you fucked up a build? what a bunch of amateurs smh"
unique snow
😉
worn ember
now i kinda wanna see what that build does
limpid comet
i use git for managing backups on my dev server (for builds)
worn ember
👀
limpid comet
haven't got around to writing backups for the one gamemode that has persistent world data since that gamemode hasn't been developed yet
minor badge
it just fucks up chunks on saving, making them irreparable, ded
unique snow
Have they fixed it upstream yet?
limpid comet
yes
minor badge
mmm
limpid comet
no?
minor badge
they did smth stupid and we did smth stupid
limpid comet
oh
minor badge
one stupidity alone was fine, two went 💥
worn ember
in math: two negatives cancels out
In programming: it just breaks twice as hard
unique snow
Are upstream changes auto merged to paper? Or is it mostly manual?
cunning raft
A mix
minor badge
both
limpid comet
pretty sure it's a proxi thing
worn ember
Yes
minor badge
na
cunning raft
If they conflict, someone needs to fix it
minor badge
aikar has a script running to auto update if it can
waxen panther
unique snow
So effectively automatic, except for merge conflicts.
minor badge
ye
unique snow
I may get hurt for suggesting, but maybe upstream merges need to be in their own branch and PR'd by the script instead.
limpid comet
this is just md_5s attempt to take down paper 
cunning raft
Today was an edge case too
unique snow
Yeah I agree
worn ember
merge to master 
unique snow
I mean, I usually wait a couple days to update.
minor badge
every build is a test build; it usually works fine, but for the love of all cats and tay, do some testing
yeah i run a couple weeks outta date shit now
worn ember
paper stable releases wen
limpid comet
i think my servers are running b22something atm
golden gust
I mean, what is a stable build?
worn ember
one that doesnt break your chunks on saving 
unique snow
I also always read the upstream changes, for this reason. If I saw this I'd nope outta there 92b99cde #501: Add PersistentDataHolder to Chunk.
golden gust
The issue is that in order to have stable builds, you need to have a bunch of people sitting back, vouching for builds, etc, re-ing themselves over how critical a bug is, etc, etc
worn ember
i see
golden gust
Well, "other software" has dev cycles lasting weeks/months long
our dev cycles range from hours to minutes
unique snow
The complexity is increased by the upstream changes. Since you're relying on them testing them currently.
worn ember
just pay trig 5$/h and i'm sure he'll love to test for you
olive garden
that't mcdonalds wage nty
minor badge
if you fund it, sure
golden gust
Mini is rubbing off on me 😦
minor badge
lemme rub on you
worn ember
vernal moth
Mini is rubbing off on me 😦
@golden gust 😘
worn ember
Proxi, i cant even fund my own life, let alone fund someone elses 
minor badge
back off, mini! 😠
olive garden
how to update your server:
- take a random 1 week old jar
- see if anything important was fixed since
- if the important fix is less than 3 days old, you're fucked
- otherwise pick the important fix jar
- look through paper #announcements, #paper-help and #general using the search feature and determine whether the random version you picked is broken or not
- if it's broken repeat previous steps from step 2
worn ember
Instructions unclear downloaded yatopia 1.8.8
olive garden
dummeyedragon strikes again
minor badge
thats happening in v2
ashen cliff
How to update:
Auto update,
No backups,
And most important step, stay invisible on Discord to avoid all responsibility.
ashen cliff
Usually does, we don't think about the dark scenarios till they occur.
worn ember
anger management 
visual egret
quick java question: is there a way to share two packets of information as a return? for example a function that returns a boolean and a player?
golden gust
No
visual egret
ok
golden gust
You'd need to wrap them in something
vernal moth
Sounds like you want an optional
worn ember
optional, null same thing really
golden gust
Psh
worn ember
either you check if its null or you check if its present
golden gust
Either > Null
worn ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
golden gust
That's double the optional
worn ember
double the ints
visual egret
difference between return void; and return null;?
visual egret
oh
golden gust
saaame
visual egret
nvm i was confused
golden gust
I know java is stupid
worn ember
void is no return type
golden gust
I forgot it wasn't JS
worn ember
so you return nothing
visual egret
cool
limpid comet
hey I was reading that
visual egret
public static GamePlayer checkIfGameHasEnded() {
int totalPlayers = modernspleef.players.size();
int deadPlayers = modernspleef.deadPlayers.size();
if (totalPlayers - deadPlayers <= 1) {
for (GamePlayer player : modernspleef.players) {
if (!player.isDead()) {
return player;
}
}
return null;
} else {
return null;
}
}
is there a better way to do that?
cunning raft
You should be able to do one return null as the last statement in the method
limpid comet
yeah was gonna say that
visual egret
anything else?
limpid comet
I'd probably change the method name to getGameWinner
Or split it up with a check if the game is done method and a get winner method
If that's what this code is doing
Because the method name kinda implies a boolean return
visual egret
yeah i originally made it boolean
but didnt change the method
after i changed the return type
limpid comet
👍
visual egret
thanks!
i would really like to thank whoever implemented this: https://papermc.io/javadocs/paper/1.16/com/destroystokyo/paper/Title.Builder.html
visual egret
i dont think it is
since it uses this import: import com.destroystokyo.paper.Title;
austere ivy
Mmm, when you wake up early enough that you can take a shower and by the time you come back and look out your window the top of the trees are just starting to be kissed by the sun.
It's nice.
twin lagoon
End support for all server products: This means that support and bug fixes will no longer be available for your server products.
wtf
minor badge
wonder if spigot will now move to gitlab ce or smth
twin lagoon
naturally cloud pricing is expensive as fuck
ah well, never used atlassian products luckily
mental meadow
I only use trello
twin lagoon
use notion
cunning raft
Well this is not for a while no? Not like md needs to decide tomorrow
cedar spade
really feels like they're shooting themselves in the foot when gitlab is a thing
cedar spade
also they're raising the price of licence renewals afaict
cunning raft
Like nobody uses their product to begin with
But now they took the biggest part away
cedar spade
a lot of companies do use jira internally, and I'm willing to bet those companies will be fleeing to another solution
austere ivy
I wonder why they'd do that. They already have to update the software they host, so licensing out that software that other people use seems like an easy way to get money from the people who like hosting things themselves.
limpid comet
oh nooo.. the mojira...
austere ivy
I wonder if Mojang hosts mojira themselves or if they're already on cloud..
minor badge
likely just on cloud
vernal moth
It's still self hosted if you pay for it, even after 2024
It's just became more expensive
twin lagoon
On February 2, 2024 PT, the following change will go into effect:
End support for all server products: This means that support and bug fixes will no longer be available for your server products.
not really self-hosted after 2024
twin lagoon
it's basically dead
er, for anyone under 500 users / not enterprise
on the other hand that's not their market anyways so i guess that's fine
spigot would switch over though lmao
limpid comet
i've done it
well, partially
jdbc and pgsql
it's working so nicely... man my old system was a mess
this code is actually readable!
thank you everyone who told me off for using mongo
waxen panther
austere ivy
That's something.
Not that I'd use mongo.. tucks a few plugins in my closet.. but what's wrong with it?
mental meadow
please do not tuck plugins away into the closet, they don't like that
it's dark in there
limpid comet
idk i'm not as knowledgeable but there's some cases where it can just wipe data when not configured properly
also its a lot easier to write with JDBC instead of mongo's java drivers
and i find its a lot easier to find documentation/examples/tutorials on it since its jdbc
zealous knot
@vestal jasper
native ginkgo
Is this the proper place to ask for hosting recommendations?
ashen cliff
Should be.
limpid comet
/r/syscraft discord probably can provide better recommendations (there's a lot of hosters in that discord) but nothing wrong with asking here
austere ivy
takes plugins back out of the closet and puts them on desk alright aurora, the plugins are out of the closet
mossy vessel
extravm, dedicatedmc is what people are using ig
austere ivy
I can vouch for dedicatedmc, I really like the people behind it.
austere ivy
I'm pretty sure dedicatedmc does both
limpid comet
cool
i just go OVH/SYS because i've had great experience with them in the past and now
but ill look into them at some point
could someone give me some advice on my database architecture
so since im coming from mongo im thinking in the mongo mindset
in my mongodb, I had a collection with global user data (uuid, chat settings, login times, etc). i also had collections for each of my gamemodes, and these collections contained gamemode-specific userdata (but still had the uuid field so i could identify who's who)
in my code, i had a method that would load gamedata into a User object, which would take the game's name and find the collection with the same name. this would then put the Document object into a map inside User
now, im migrating to postgresql, and my original plan was to have one table for global userdata, and another table for all gamedata which just has a column for each game (data stored as jsonb) and a UUID. i'm halfway through implementing this but i imagine there's a better way to do this
my corelib provies the loadGameData method, and then plugins call this once they receive my UserDataLoad event
twin lagoon
phoenixnap best host
austere ivy
hmm, are you biased, michael?
mossy vessel
Could just go for he
twin lagoon
extravm, bloomhost & dedicatedmc for normal shared mc
phoenixnap, ovh, hetzner for dedis
worn ember
huehue
fervent kite
question, my datapack says its enabled, but its not loading in game
austere ivy
Datapacks do that sometimes, they're kinda funky. I forget what I used to do but I had a process that I'd consistently go through every time my datapack wouldn't work. First, is it not showing up in /datapack list?
Also, have you /reloaded?
fervent kite
its shows up in list
fervent kite
ok let me try
when i try datapack list enabled it is included in the list
is that good enough?
or should i manually enable it like you showed?
austere ivy
Uhh, if it's in the enabled list that means it's already enabled, so no need to enable it again.
So, we've made sure that 1. Minecraft is recognizing the datapack and 2. it's enabled. What else are you expecting to happen? What do you mean by it not loading in game?
austere ivy
Are you on paper or vanilla?
fervent kite
paper
teal egret
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277889706178641931/767039003379367946/20201017_165709.jpg boot-to-paper
warm anchor
How do you live with a 100 watt lightbulb directing shine on your screen 
teal egret
its my laptop and the shine was due to the angle
warm anchor
Oh lol
worn ember
whats with the kernel panics tho
woven otter
it's scared
short yarrow
Are there any good tips to avoid simple mistakes? There was already a method foo(a, b) in the class. I'm creating another method like foo(a, b, c, d) (copy-pasted code from foo(a, b) into this method). The code in foo(a, b) and foo(a, b, c, d) are almost identical. I didn't notice I could do this until it was mentioned in a code review. Do I just disable copy-paste.... I felt so dumb that I missed this
public void foo(a, b) {
foo(a, b, "hello", "world")
}
fallow tapir
super useful
This also works for things like...
public void foo(Player player) {
foo(player.getUniqueID();
}
public void foo(UUID uuid) {
...
}
also there are varargs
fallow tapir
Let your util classes/apis have 50 methods in them. Save the space and effort for your functional classes.
short yarrow
I feel just dumb for missing this...
fallow tapir
Another noobie mistake is using a manual init function.
class BlahStuff {
public BlahStuff() {}
public BlahStuff(int numberbecausewhynot) {}
...
}
if you didn't know that was a feature that doesn't mean you're dumb just that you are lacking experience
worn ember
or you're dum and lacking experience
fallow tapir
a public method with the same name of the class is the init function and defines init parameters for initialising it.
short yarrow
haha. I think I'm just dumb 😭
void void
@limpid comet prepare your machine for reinstallation; made some progress with freighter 
short yarrow
I just copy-pasted and didn't even second guess myself
fallow tapir
Nah Hydra. You're just trying to run before you can walk. Nothing wrong with that.
It's just a different way of learning. A more hands-on method you could say.
woven otter
copy pasting is more than likely a sign that you are doing something wrong
fallow tapir
^ that is fair. You should just use online resources as a reference to understand what you're doing. copying isn't really a good idea for code or experience.
Unless it's a super simple function that does a thing, like padding a string with spaces... cough
Don't copy non-static functions is what I'm saying.
short yarrow
yeah I see it now after I've done it... It wasn't something from like stackoverflow, the code I work with isn't public to anyone. Just wanted to have another method to take some extra args for more customizability since the foo(a, b) used a constant in it
wide chasm
IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate has a duplicate code inspection, so it would give you a warning if you repeat too much similar code. Of course, if you don't have or use Ultimate or the repeated code is relatively small, this doesn't really help you.
short yarrow
oh yeah I have ultimate. I noticed that feature. I don't think it popped up for my method or maybe I didn't see it
wide chasm
It can be a bit finnicky which code it sees as duplicated and which it doesn't. But you can check the inspection and see if it's actually enabled or lower the amount of code units required to trigger it.
unreal quarry
IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate has a duplicate code inspection
:O so that's where that comes from.. I thought it just came with a regular update.
wide chasm
One of the only Ultimate features I actually use 🙂
fallen oracle
IJ IDEA Ultimate also comes with freezing when touching the Material ENUM (:
wide chasm
lol
unreal quarry
I've noticed that, too, glare... Thought it was just my laptop and bought more ram lmao
fallen oracle
I gave it up to 16GB for testing purposes and it still filled that.
When is Aikar going to give us IJ flags 😦
unreal quarry
I blame the compat layer
fallen oracle
What version are you on?
unreal quarry
Needs to be ripped out already, imo
vernal moth
Not that I ever do that on purpose
Oh yes totally
It's been 3 updates now
Fuck pre 1.13
vernal moth
Hard fork when
vernal moth
Hangar has been progressing nicely
twin lagoon
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idriz 
this you? I think that's you.
twin lagoon
meager tusk
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twin lagoon
meager tusk
Kosovo CEO 
limpid comet
@void void just dban'd every device in my house, I'm ready
cosmic raft
hi
mossy vessel
hello 
cosmic raft
hai nmf
mossy vessel
heyo
heady spear
Hello.
formal ledge
@twin lagoon Is this the right channel? 
i just wanted to know the breed
sorry to bother you in dms
mossy vessel
They removed the screenshot button from the power menu
Just swipe over yours screen
cosmic raft
swipe how
cosmic raft
that's a no from me
mossy vessel
I'm pretty used to gestures like that
mossy vessel
How would you do that with one hand
formal ledge
Index and middle finger?
heady spear
power+vol up works great on iphone 🤷♂️
formal ledge
I have a sony phone which has those keys on the left side of the screen
makes it easier if you are right handed
heady spear
can easily do it with one hand because I don't have the dexterity of a rock
cosmic raft
Do it with one hand though. Don't support phone with other hand when pressing buttons
Not as easy as one button
formal ledge
Oh i wont be able to use that phone at all
limber knotBOT
if you're pulling up a menu to press a screenshot button I assume the moment is not time sensitive
cosmic raft
yea
twin lagoon
@formal ledge not my cat unfortunately
heady spear
I think it's just my giant man hands that make me a superhuman
heady spear
@mossy vessel can i use them on u uwu
mossy vessel
No thanks
heady spear
:(((
formal ledge
limber knotBOT
vibe check denied
mossy vessel
smh stop twisting stuff
heady spear
o ill twist something alright
left swift
limpid comet
does nitro still come with a server boost
heady spear
2
left swift
Yes
limpid comet
ive been trying to convince myself not to
left swift
Do it but also buy 10 more server boosts
limpid comet
but party parrot is so tempting
limber knotBOT
the parrot is but a siren
mossy vessel
ima gift you nitro robo
limber knotBOT
if u do it's gonna b a total waste so don't
mossy vessel
smh my head
limber knotBOT
only thing useful may be game pass
heady spear
waste money on incendo boosts :3
limpid comet
wtf is an incendo
left swift
Oh yeah reminds me I need to cancel my xbox game pass thank u robo
heady spear
should we hook up incendo to the is/ic irc so i can spam robo? :333
void void
ewwwwwwww incendo
heady spear
incendo is walmart kyori, best org around
limpid comet
is that like a creciendo
heady spear
except for kyori obv
limpid comet
invite me city
limber knotBOT
dahek is an incendo and I'd like to see you try to do something on IRC u dumcordian
limber knotBOT
does the game pass from dumcord require a credit card?
thought it'd be just a code that doesn't need such
or did you just do the normal $1 first month nomana
mossy vessel
But we need to be nice to robo
cosmic raft
blap
mossy vessel
blup
limpid comet
welp
worn ember
@heady spear bruh thats an ugly color
worn ember
mossy vessel
I've just quit my nitro subscription earlier lol
worn ember
i paid for an entire year
zealous wedge
why would you boost paper lol
boosts don't do anything useful for the org beyond the base level
worn ember
goes for every discord
zealous wedge
go spend them on other guilds that aren't at level 2 yet
limpid comet
idk what boosts even do
limpid comet
yeah
i get that lol
it's just because i have nitro
it comes with 2 free ones now
left swift
He wants to he special
worn ember
just to flex on us poor kids
left swift
Be
zealous wedge
spread the love lol
worn ember
limber knotBOT
dum
left swift
Nah u did it for the blue name dont lie
mossy vessel
Just steal the emoji and upload them on your server lol
limber knotBOT
heady spear
proxi uk what u could boost? 👀
limpid comet
robo i don't want o hear it
limber knotBOT
kablam
limber knotBOT
answer my question nomana
worn ember
who is this city guy again?
worn ember
!stats
limber knotBOT
Uptime: 2 days, 1 hours, 50 minutes, 30 seconds
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earlier up
worn ember
sorry cant scroll up in discord
limber knotBOT
lul
[10:51:11] RoboMWM: does the game pass from dumcord require a credit card? [10:51:24] RoboMWM: thought it'd be just a code that doesn't need such [10:51:39] RoboMWM: or did you just do the normal $1 first month nomana
left swift
Oh I just did the 1$ first month
limpid comet
is discord a part of Xbox now?
left swift
I didnt use discords for it
limber knotBOT
ppl were talking about game pass here earlier
I'll happily take ur game pass if they gave u one c:
limpid comet
how do i find out
left swift
Idk if they sis
limpid comet
I already have it from the $1-3mo trial they were giving out a while ago so
left swift
Did*
limpid comet
I'll give you my game pass sub if i am no longer a dumbcordian
limber knotBOT
Oh then ya you can give it to me cuz idk if codes work for existing subscribers
left swift
Robo freeloading smh
left swift
I c
limber knotBOT
no
ppl were talking about game pass codes
aikar and such were asking in here like last week
something about them being redeemed when they haven't been used or some issue like that
prolly dumcord staff stealin codes lul
left swift
Inventory for gifts
ashen cliff
Daily reminder: https://posili.me/i/2020-10-17_20-16-46.png
left swift
Fix it krusic
ashen cliff
Never.
peak dirge
your main thread gettin paused
zealous wedge
yeah, ZGC is still being tweaked so it's only starting to be an interesting choice as of java 14
hm
ornate star
Hi, does anyone have experience with dedicated servers here? At the moment I am hosting a 1.16.3 survival server on game hosting and TPS are really weak with more than 50 players. So I want to ask, will the transition help server to a quality dedicated server? Thanks for any answers.. 🙂
visual egret
ornate star
@visual egret it didnt help that much bruh 😢 I already did that. Why Mojang doesnt care about that issue?
visual egret
when transitioning to new hardware, remember:
higher clock speed = better peformance
more ram = better performance
more cores != better peformance
unreal quarry
billy's doing a lot of running :PepeLa:
Gotta get that post-surgery exorcise in ;)
runs away
visual egret
@visual egret it didnt help that much bruh 😢 I already did that. Why Mojang doesnt care about that issue?
@ornate star they have realms, and they dont care about java, they care more about bedrock
twin lagoon
higher clock speed = better peformance
not true
more ram = better performance
not true unless you're coming from like 2gb ram
visual egret
for minecraft*
visual egret
im referring to a specific use case for minecraft
twin lagoon
your usecase is
visual egret
i mean...
twin lagoon
it's the same story
visual egret
if ur linus u can do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4uIvK8Y7t8
twin lagoon
that server isn't in use anymore for LTT MC servers iirc
twin lagoon
yes
unreal quarry
is paper-238 safe?
@visual egret only if you keep sharp objects away from it. Only plastic sporks are allowed
limber knotBOT
wait, since when does minecraft allow semi-transparent skin layers? Oo
mental meadow
But only for the overlays right?
limber knotBOT
I would assume so, yeah
fallen oracle
LOL
mossy vessel
Running a marathon here
mental meadow
Are you allowed to run Billy? :P
unreal quarry
no, but i do what i want :3
mossy vessel
savage
unreal quarry
i'm still on 10 lbs light duty until january
i'm not allowed to lift anything more than 10 pounds :3
i ask doc "then how do i pee?"
runs away
golden gust
He said weighr
mental meadow
My mother just had surgery yesterday and now isn't allowed to eat anything until Monday
golden gust
Not the most you could rent it out for
mossy vessel
I had to lookup a conversion between pounds and kg lol
golden gust
(that works better in britbong land)
mental meadow
Isn't it about half lol
mossy vessel
Bit less
mental meadow
The feathers obvs
limber knotBOT
kilogram of feathers as you need a bigger bag to hold them ;)
limpid comet
wa-ah
worn ember
kg of steel cuz 5x3 = 15
unreal quarry
^_^ one of my favs on youtube lol
cobalt surge
But they are both a kilogram...
unreal quarry
mental meadow
The heaviest in that video is his accent
unreal quarry
lmao
mental meadow
But I love the total mental breakdown he's having
unreal quarry
i like to imagine a lot of newbies in #paper-dev go through that after talking with some of us
heady spear
lol i forgot i was cookies and I have a bunch of burned food now 😄 my apartment spells like stanky stinky stonk
mossy vessel
So the ordinary smell for you
worn ember
you are cookies?
quasi valley
drönk?
cedar spade
drønk
golden gust
limber knotBOT
what's the worse folder name you've seen in a bug report? Here's mine: https://github.com/TechFortress/GriefPrevention/issues/1061
*worst
mossy vessel
ew gp, the author is so weird
limber knotBOT
dots in names? smh
limpid comet
that guy needs to take the period out of the folder name and put it in his sentence
ok or just delete your message that's cool
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i deleted it
left swift
Boolyin proxy D:
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now tell him abt REPLACE INTO
limpid comet
i can only take so many sql statements at once
zealous wedge
lol robo, stop using bukkit's broken config system
limpid comet
next you'll say: use configurate
zealous wedge
or I guess you could change your path separator character
I mean there are so many better choices of config lib
zealous wedge
I think configurate is the closest to good that exists so far, but it's also my lib :p
limpid comet
configurate does go hard
i don't have much use for it right now but i suppose when hangar rolls around i'll make a few of my plugins user-friendly and upload them
hmm does velocity shade configurate
limpid comet
beautiful
cedar spade
Configurate shaded in Paper wen
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probably nevur
cedar spade
:(
void void
is it possible to make that dark grey line slightly lighter, i can barely see it
limber knotBOT
if there's a config API where I can declare and set a default value all in one line then I'll be interested. Until then... the less dependencies the better
I've kind of implemented that with this https://github.com/TechFortress/GriefPrevention/tree/dev/v20/src/main/java/me/ryanhamshire/GriefPrevention/config
idk factory pattern but it more or less will do what I want.
to get an end result of basically doing this to define config options https://github.com/TechFortress/GriefPrevention/blob/dev/v20/src/main/java/me/ryanhamshire/GriefPrevention/config/ClaimConfigNode.java
worn ember
World.
cosmic raft
@golden gust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8
cosmic raft
.remind -d -w 126975485493248000 1h https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot: Reminder set for 60 minutes from now.
mossy vessel
👀
mossy vessel
oic
mental meadow
bc postgres
vernal bone
limber knotBOT
Reminder for @golden gust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8
potent fossil
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simple
novel horizon
potent fossil
proxi 
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@mighty storm alswsus
viral hornet
@heady spear have fun xoxo
potent fossil
viral hornet
How you doing simple? 
viral hornet
I'm goood, just waiting for coffee to kick in 
potent fossil
same
potent fossil
michael 🥺
twin lagoon
simple 🥺
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michale
twin lagoon
proxi