and then they wonder why everyone uses adblock
#general
worn ember
cunning raft
Altho twitch fill rates have gotten a lot better since they switched to amazon ad service
cosmic raft
@peak dirge why the "crap"?
peak dirge
using an insecure OS because hurr durr school VPN only has macOS and windoze downloads
limber knotBOT
do they use some non-standard stuff? Oo
peak dirge
not going to bother ryzentoshing for one app
dusk drift
Wine?
peak dirge
the weird thing is that their VPN is 100% Linux compatible but they refuse to give me a download for it
peak dirge
it's the GlobalProtect VPN, some proprietary shit they bought
limber knotBOT
or https://kamarada.github.io/en/2020/03/19/how-to-connect-to-a-globalprotect-vpn/ if you don't want to use their official client
left swift
Twitch launcher used for minecraft mods now
limber knotBOT
that will go away soon though
left swift
Maybe
limber knotBOT
curseforge isn't owned by twitch/amazon anymore
stiff yarrow
there is a twitch launcher?
mossy vessel
_When you are using your own launcher 
_
limber knotBOT
twitch launcher is Curse Launcher + twitch xD
left swift
Liked the twitch launcher for mods was very sleek easy to manage
Notification system was aids
stiff yarrow
oh, was curse the app that was good for WoW mods or was that something else
its been so long
limber knotBOT
they do wow mods too, yeah
stiff yarrow
was curse that one app that was the one you used if you wanted to update all 100 of your WoW mods
or was that a different app
left swift
WoW cheater
stiff yarrow
I last played WoW on a "serious" level at WOTLK launch when you could only raid naxx
I remember having some app to update all 100 of my addons at once
WoW classic looked interesting but being an adult and all there's literally no time for it
left swift
Theres always time to be a degenerate
formal ledge
@mossy vessel Sorry for the tag but i was wondering if you could share your pfp with me 
vernal moth
@vernal moth well we didnt ask for the bit, we asked them to just stop changing the damn thing when the protocol was the same lol. but they i guess wnated to distinguish snapshot clients. but honestly they shouldnt do that either, let snapshot clients connect to 1.16.3 servers when protocol is still the same
@slim nymph well, I guess release process between snapshot and release is different, so they still need to bump snapshots. I remember that we talked about the high bit but I dont care too look
viral hornet
Don't do it nossr, don't go back to the WoW side
mossy vessel
vernal moth
i think its useful to know what the client version is
@cunning raft why would you care about 1.16.5 vs 1.16.6 if no protocol changes?
mossy vessel
Here ya go
formal ledge
Oh my god thanks a ton
slim nymph
if each release of snapshot still doesnt change protocol, i dunno why theyneed it
slim nymph
isnt mc client version already sent separate than protocol?
cunning raft
brand only no?
slim nymph
ok so that sems good enough
dunno why youd need to care early on
"are we speaking the same language, yes? good"
cunning raft
brand is like vanilla forge fabric
but mini as for why you'd want to know specific client versions when protocol is the same mostly just for stats
slim nymph
but mojang doesnt need that
slim nymph
but they could do it as part of a payload
plus 1.16.3 vs 1.16.2 really means nothing for server owners
cunning raft
i don't
slim nymph
its more about client features, and protocol does bump for that
cunning raft
was just a hypothetical
magic river
Neat, OpenGL over Vulkan is already at 70% of the native GL driver for one game/benchmark
That's pretty much fast enough to stop worrying about performance, it's a legacy API after all
vernal moth
render dragon for minecraft java when?
magic river
What?
fallen jungle
🤔 I don't know what to think about 70%
magic river
Oh, that's what they call the bedrock engine
vernal moth
render dragon is mojangs new rendering engine
its not just bedrock
its also minecraft earth
magic river
Depending on how it works the day they drop that in as a native library Java talks to is the day a lot of mods die
cunning raft
real and true
fallen jungle
I take it render dragon is also using ogl?
vernal moth
well, only mods like optfine
cunning raft
hopefully at that point mods like optfine would no longer be needed
vernal moth
stuff like custom blocks and custom guis is the layer above that
and minecraft has apis for that anyways
magic river
I suppose most of the rest really should be using just a shitload of block ids and figuring out which ones to be on place and neighbor update
But they don't right now, they hack in a custom rendering step for their block in the engine because that's how notch did it
All the ones that change their rendering based on NBT because they're tile entities for no reason other than to save block ids (or because they copied how notch/other mods did it)
On the other hand some mods add more block ids than we can have, it's still 65k, right?
marble lark
render dragon for minecraft java when?
If it makes Minecraft Java's graphics look as ugly as Bedrock edition I'll pass, I'd rather have 50FPS but a pleasing to view landscape over 300FPS with rendering that makes me want to vomit
slim nymph
has nothing to do with graphics
but last i saw bedrock was pretty much near same? whats diferent to you
cunning raft
bedrock movement is way different
slim nymph
movement has nothing to do with rendering
cunning raft
but graphics were same tho
marble lark
but last i saw bedrock was pretty much near same? whats diferent to you
Hard to explain but good god everything looks so off in Bedrock
twin lagoon
lighting is slightly but noticably different if you compare java with bedrock
slim nymph
only thing i noticed was a different menu style
marble lark
Take a look at the ocean for one
and grass just looks... like it was coloured with a crayon
For some reason that doesn't happen when playing Bedrock on a server but meh
marble lark
maybe it's not bedrock being ugly
twin lagoon
cunning raft
yeah i just stared it up looks like you're right
marble lark
as it is Java edition being just really pleasing to look at
twin lagoon
cunning raft
maybe it has something to do with hardware but thats a guess
marble lark
idk maybe it's just me
twin lagoon
tall grass lighting is a bit weird
slim nymph
those screenshots feel normal. maybe yall just spoiled with higher graphic settings?
cunning raft
only thing i notice a difference in is lighting
twin lagoon
https://owo.whats-th.is/83MEDTR.png i will say that the view distance is still nuts on bedrock
slim nymph
its the same render, just not fancy details
twin lagoon
but that's the only thing i can say
cunning raft
but otherwise it looks the same
marble lark
those screenshots feel normal. maybe yall just spoiled with higher graphic settings?
Nope been playing Java on lowest possible graphics ever since 1.7.2
twin lagoon
bedrock feels laggy aswell for some reason for me
marble lark
Idk man Java just feels really pleasing to look at
twin lagoon
it has never felt smooth
dusk drift
Bedrock movement feels very off for me
twin lagoon
it is off
dusk drift
everything else is fine
twin lagoon
there's a super small delay in jumping aswell which fucks parkour
marble lark
bedrock feels laggy aswell for some reason for me
Bedrock's rendering is extremely fast but the chunk loading is atrocious
twin lagoon
ok nvm fixed the lag, render distance was just too high
marble lark
the opposite is true for Java where chunk loading is pretty good while rendering is a little slower (Though with newer versions not as much as before)
slim nymph
i hope my neighbor feels regret for her bitchiness after my fence is done.
cunning raft
bedrock def not laggy
slim nymph
when i bought my house, my fence was attached to my neighbors so i shared a border with her
that was in 2011
marble lark
bedrock def not laggy
Well it's rendering isn't but movement and generation sure feels like it
twin lagoon
very hard to hit entities
slim nymph
well this year she decides she no longer wants me to share her edge and to get my own edge
twin lagoon
hitboxes might be a bit off too
cunning raft
yeah that's what sucked
my neighbor is nice
but she is very old
so im preparing for bad ones
marble lark
well this year she decides she no longer wants me to share her edge and to get my own edge
Did she
break your fence
slim nymph
no, she wanted me to detach the part of my fence that crosses the property line
so, i was forced to buy a new fence (it was old and needed it), and im going to go across my property line perfectly
marble lark
super annoying
I don't like the Village mechanics either for Bedrock (Bedrock actually uses a combo of legacy Village mechanics and the new Village and Pillage Mechanics which makes it super buggy)
slim nymph
this is gonna leave a triangle space between for her property line that she wont be able to mow properly
marble lark
oh yeah bedrock / java mechanics are not the same
For the most part they are but subtle things like Villages and the Wither are different
actually screw it the Village mechanics are not subtle at all
slim nymph
i think im down to the point I could go an entire day w/o caffeine
thats shocking o.o
i almost did yesterday
marble lark
I haven't slept 2 nights in a row without coffee is that normal
slim nymph
but i got an entire shipment of monsters to go through lol
could mean other things at play, stress/anxiety
waxen panther
How
slim nymph
one thing ive noticed, im actually somewhat dreaming again o.o
for long time i can never remember dreaming anymore
prob both magnesium and caffeine to blame for before, but now im taking magnesium and reducing caffeine so none in evening
peak dirge
Steam seems to think I would like the idea of playing Titanfall 2 and Destiny 2. I'm not sure about that.
Similar to a game I have played 36 minutes of, way to go Steam!
Never would have thought you'd be my savior.
slim nymph
i need to do titanfall 2, i enjoyed 1's story but the shortness pissed me off
destiny is a fun game but the constant "lets grind the best gear" - update drops - hey this new green item is 10x stronger than your item you spent weeks on!
peak dirge
never mind the fact I have yet to finish playing other very long games in my library
like RDR2
slim nymph
the constant progress erasure burns me on destiny
i want to feel like i work to earn a reward that has long term value
peak dirge
Moving the goalposts, as it's called.
slim nymph
i bought it on sale one day, but now i would have gotten it free if I hadnt ._.
waxen panther
And don’t even get me started with Destiny, I’ll never get back the 6000 hours I’ve spent on that god forsaken franchise
magic river
Eternal looter shooter grinding is the point of Destiny 2
magic river
In Borderlands the mechanic worked because you'd hit max level and grind out the best gear then a DLC would come out with a new story, new cap, and new BiS gear you could grind through
But it was a slower pace
slim nymph
@magic river i dunno it feels different than like diablo, diablo you have the mindset of everything will constantly be cycled. theyve only done one progress erasing update. the hard core grind things are cosmetic / special access that has perma benefit
waxen panther
The grinding is fine, what’s annoying is how inept Bungie is. It’s the same two year cycle of Releasing an amazing expansion that makes the game incredible and then spending so months ruining what they created with bad meta and poor gameplay choices
slim nymph
yeah but thats the same as destiny
waxen panther
20 months *
magic river
These live service versions (including Borderlands 3) are tuned to keep the addicts happy so unless you play it like a full time job you don't get any downtime
waxen panther
I am really excited for the next d2 expansion but it’s just going to be the same cycle as forsaken so I’m going. To force myself to not play it this time
I’m not going to*
slim nymph
but the metas tended to invalidate the old anyways, and classic weapons would be missing some new perk making them inferior
magic river
D2 still means Diablo for me
peak dirge
RDR2 froze
slim nymph
i was confused, wtf new diablo2 expansion?
peak dirge
Yay
waxen panther
And then they had their whole time locked content fiasco which just made it 
Yeah sorry, I’ve never played Diablo. I only know it for destiny
twin lagoon
rdr2 
waxen panther
I have the same problem with Titanfall 2 and team fortress 2
I try to do TF|2 for Titanfall when I remember
So it’s like their promotional art
slim nymph
man im so glad grocer has the brisket containers now
gonna be a lot of brisket in my future
winged flower
who wanna play anmong us - HCGOLQ
visual egret
Why does:
public World world = Bukkit.getWorlds().get(0);
do
[18:26:40 ERROR]: Could not load 'plugins\modernspleef-1.0.jar' in folder 'plugins'
org.bukkit.plugin.InvalidPluginException: java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: Index: 0, Size: 0
minor badge
there are no worlds loaded when that is initialised
visual egret
whats the best way to get the default world then?
slim nymph
change plugin to post world load order
visual egret
ok!
minor badge
set it in on #onEnable and plugin enable post world
visual egret
thanks!!!
stiff yarrow
Apparently my cat has asthma, so I guess that’s a thing
visual egret
ah yes, snow fire
wintry kayak
699CHF/650EUR in Switzerland apparently, cheaper than in NL 😂
twin lagoon
probably some way to avoid it
twin lagoon
but yeah don't buy oculus anymore
twin lagoon
there's plenty of oculus alternatives
shit from like HP is decent apparently
and not pricey
cosmic raft
With good game support?
vernal moth
there is currently a controversy that facebook acocunts get banned after linking to oculus
vernal moth
oculus is saying to make sure your accound is in good standing
whatever the fuck that means
oculus also stopped selling stuff in germany cause they fear to be fined by our data protection laws 😂
also, vive is cheap now
the og one
odd robin
but yeah don't buy oculus anymore
@twin lagoon rip i bought oculus 2
odd robin
the oculus 2 is surprisingly amazing
cosmic raft
fuck facebook
vernal moth
the quest 2 you mean?
vernal moth
its inside out tracking
odd robin
yea
vernal moth
its not comparable to real headsets
vernal moth
it physically can't track behind your head
I used a quest 2
and I used all proper headsets
there is a real noticeable idfference
odd robin
why is everyone hating on it god damn
vernal moth
have you owned a real tracking solution before?
odd robin
like boohoo it's bad but guess what it's literally wireless and portable unlike those types of headsets
odd robin
and it's cheap
vernal moth
I don't see me using my headset out of my room, lol
odd robin
but still
u put it on
and boom it works
but the others
u have to boot up ur pc
turn on the software
cosmic raft
$939 for a Vive, $549 for a Oculus
odd robin
and stuff
cosmic raft
that's stupid
vernal moth
well, you gotta tether to pc to get proper graphics
smth smth selling your soul kash 😄
cosmic raft
Rift, not Quest
next wind
quest 2 is a pretty good deal
next wind
and vives are not 1k iirc
vernal moth
you gotta try a real solution some time 😄
odd robin
i dont have the money bro
next wind
theyre 1k if you get the vive and index controllers iirc
odd robin
that's why the only thing i can afford is the quets 2
vernal moth
@next wind og vive is not on sale anymore, he talking about vive cosmic
cosmic raft
A joke how?
stiff yarrow
what's the good VR headset these days even (as in best you can get)
next wind
what's the good VR headset these days even (as in best you can get)
@stiff yarrow quest 2 with deluxe headstrap
cosmic raft
wtf is an index
vernal moth
next wind
its valves one
limber knotBOT
best you can get is some 8K one with 120° view or something probably
vernal moth
the real vive 2
odd robin
best you can get is some 8K one with 120° view or something probably
@phoenix616#0000 what in the fuck
next wind
the controllers are amazing
odd robin
a bot with human
vernal moth
index has the best controllers and the best tracking
stiff yarrow
what kind of shite name is index
odd robin
bruhhh what are those weird ass controllers
cosmic raft
The Index is even more expensive
next wind
bruhhh what are those weird ass controllers
@odd robin they have to look stupid for what they do. They kind of have individual finger tracking
vernal moth
they got finger tracking really naturally
stiff yarrow
I should get one after I do my living room PC build
cosmic raft
$1319 for Index
$939 for Cosmos
$549 for Oculus Rift S
odd robin
@odd robin they have to look stupid for what they do. They kind of have individual finger tracking
@next wind heard of hand tracking gloves 😆
next wind
dont get a rift s
limber knotBOT
just get a used original Oculus for 100 bucks like I did ;D
odd robin
$1319 for Index
$939 for Cosmos
$549 for Oculus Rift S
@cosmic raft 300-400 for quest 2
next wind
@next wind heard of hand tracking gloves 😆
@odd robin cant get them yet though lmao
vernal moth
holy shit your fake dollars suck kash
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Result: C$1.32 (Canadian dollars) (16/10/2020) - https://is.gd/omHJ8q
vernal moth
30%
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Result: C$1.32 (Canadian dollars) (16/10/2020) - https://is.gd/omHJ8q
odd robin
wwtf
cosmic raft
.wa 1319 CAD to USD
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Result: $999.31 (US dollars) (16/10/2020) - https://is.gd/vjZjn9
vernal moth
1k
odd robin
a bot is talking like a human
odd robin
mini digger
worn ember
ez clap
next wind
what?
vernal moth
I used it, I didnt like it, I don't bother
stiff yarrow
odd robin
also when u go outside the custom border you can see reality through the headset which is a nice touch
next wind
ive used rift, quest, and quest 2
vernal moth
I am a really active player
stiff yarrow
cad to usd graph
next wind
quest 1 is my favorite
worn ember
mini, do you like DnB 👀
vernal moth
I gotta upgrade to the index eventually
next wind
more comfortable than the quest 2, although i havent tried the quest 2 with deluxe headstrap
odd robin
more comfortable than the quest 2, although i havent tried the quest 2 with deluxe headstrap
@next wind what is the deluxe headstrap? can you send a link if you'd like?
next wind
yeah one sec
vernal moth
like the music DED? I guess, there are some nice drum and base songs/mixes I like
odd robin
i like how papermc general chat is about vr headsets
stiff yarrow
actually paper general is about keto and cats
odd robin
Oh it's official
meager tusk
@twin lagoon
odd robin
jesus 50 i can't even afford that i am broke
next wind
yeah quest 2 comes with a soft strap by default
odd robin
the strap is already comfortable IMO
stiff yarrow
my cat has asthma, literally getting him a kitty inhaler
odd robin
it doesn't move much since i made it a bit tighter
meager tusk
awww 🥺 take care of kitty
next wind
my cat has asthma, literally getting him a kitty inhaler
@stiff yarrow didnt know that exists, hope hes all good!
stiff yarrow
apparently it happens when they are fat and middle aged, hes both
odd robin
e
worn ember
you just gotta get a leafblower and shove it down its throat, air for days
meager tusk
????????
odd robin
good idea
meager tusk
meager tusk
asthma sucks
meager tusk
i know a friend of mine who has it and i remember he didn't have his inhaler with him and actually started choking 
odd robin
i get made fun of lol
stiff yarrow
I have asthma from seasonal allergies and cats
cosmic raft
waht the FUCK valve
stiff yarrow
I don't have that kind of asthma
cosmic raft
.g valve face gasket
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://store.steampowered.com/app/1072820/Face_Gasket_for_Valve_Index_Headset__2_Pack/ -- Face Gasket for Valve Index Headset – 2 Pack on Steam: "Jul 31, 2019 ... The Face Gasket for the Valve Index Headset is made with anti-microbial fabric that is soft on the skin and ergonomically designed..."
cosmic raft
wtf kind of name
stiff yarrow
I have the "harder to breathe but not impossible" kind
meager tusk
odd robin
either because im fat or asthma
worn ember
well at least you're not allergic to sweating xD
odd robin
bruv that's a thing??/
worn ember
yup
odd robin
jesus
next wind
lmao i remember that discussion
meager tusk
that sounds like hell wtf?
stiff yarrow
I can run fine, if my symptoms act up its inhaler time
vernal moth
@cosmic raft I got a pair from vrcover instead of official stuff
meager tusk
sweating?
vernal moth
its really nice to be able to switch covers
cosmic raft
But basically
odd robin
also does anyone know the game im about to describe
meager tusk
i mean ok but what about when you exercise
odd robin
so basically
i saw a video
vernal moth
if you don't sweat while playing VR, you don't play properly
cosmic raft
The options are $1k for HTC Vive, or $1300 for Valve Index
worn ember
i used to do sports all the time. Now i get rash and red spots all over my body whenever i sweat. fun times.
it's tolerable just really annoying
odd robin
and it was with a person and yoda lmao
worn ember
and itchy
odd robin
he grabbed yoda and yeeted him across the universe
there's like a star wars free world play game or something
meager tusk
lego star wars
odd robin
it seems fun and im giving a very bad description
meager tusk
odd robin
no i meant VR game
stiff yarrow
I don't want to use a headset in my office so I'll wait until I get around to making my living room pc
odd robin
I don't want to use a headset in my office so I'll wait until I get around to making my living room pc
@stiff yarrow hold on what
LIVING ROOM pc?
next wind
no i meant VR game
@odd robin i think its the new one thats coming out in a bit
worn ember
just use a surround system
odd robin
2 pcs in one house
next wind
odd robin
alr i now understand
meager tusk
and the attic pc
worn ember
i have like 5-6 pc's in my house
meager tusk
and the garage and basement pc
odd robin
if you don't have 5 pcs or more in ur house designed for every room you're not a true gamer
🤦♂️
void void
craftingtable
meager tusk
designed so like
void void
hello
odd robin
god DAMN
worn ember
no u
odd robin
THOSE GRAPHICS
twin lagoon
idriz 
void void
too much bloom
odd robin
man the quest 2 probably gonna fucking explode trying to handle it
worn ember
next wind
quest 2 is insane, im sure it could handle that and more
meager tusk
There's a few hundred people depending on your expertise @twin lagoon. Hurry up then. Cmon.
worn ember
meager tusk
odd robin
quest 2 is insane, im sure it could handle that and more
@next wind i was playing vr chat, didnt handle very well tbh
next wind
vr chat is probably more demanding than that game tbh
odd robin
it had a few lag spikes and THE AVATARS I WASN'T ABLE TO SHOW THEM someone teach me how to show avatars in vr chat all it does it just show the default robot for everyone
vernal moth
just plug it into your PC
odd robin
i put safety settings all the way up
vernal moth
then you can get proper power
next wind
yeah use quest link if you need too
vernal moth
not just phone power
odd robin
wait
worn ember
you see that nuclear power plant over there, i'm sure that can power your VR
odd robin
can i plug it in with a usb 3 to USB c as well or nah
next wind
not afaik, use quest link, a normal cable cant handle it
worn ember
what?
odd robin
10ft cable
odd robin
and te link?
waht about the link
is there an official link for the oculus link cabole
worn ember
oh 3.1 is 2A
next wind
its not about the amps, its about the data
odd robin
ohhh
next wind
its basically turning the quest 2 into a rift
odd robin
i found it on oculus website
holy shit
80 dollars
fuck that i'd rather have no vr chat avatars
next wind
quest comes with one iirc
next wind
if i remember correctly
next wind
what?
worn ember
idk
odd robin
what is iirc?
wide chasm
If I remember correctly
odd robin
@next wind what's iirc?
wide chasm
Does anyone know how to log incoming client packets? I've tried doing https://wiki.vg/Debugging, but the client doesn't seem to accept a log file parameter as java argument. I've tried replacing the internal log file, but that only resulted in either the launcher downloading new files or the launcher crashing.
odd robin
sorry i dont speak debug
wide chasm
And, how exactly would I go about doing that?
swift root
iirc = if i recall/remember correctly @odd robin
twin lagoon
larry
swift root
michael!!
stone fern
does anyone no why my paper mc server stops after there being no one online for 10 hours
twin lagoon
what host
waxen panther
🥺 larry 
michael 
twin lagoon
broccy
swift root
broccccccc 
waxen panther
twin lagoon
golden gust
I see our #community-guilds standards are going down
What's next, ViaVersion?
runs
swift root
😔
golden gust
LAARRRYYY?!
golden gust
'nuff said, oh god
waxen panther
😡
warm anchor
🥦
waxen panther
novel horizon
that's normal btw 👀
limber knotBOT
.addcmd larry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHZvUeAdzeI
swift root
what just happened
twin lagoon
.larry
limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
that
stiff yarrow
2 pcs in one house
@odd robin one for werk one for gaming
void void
hides
next wind
i know, im saying that he usually edits the message instead of making a new one
unreal quarry
i know, im saying that he usually edits the message instead of making a new one
@next wind
They're all seperate messages
mouse over them and notice the highlight
next wind
oh he reposts all the community discords whenever a new one is added
untold copper
Is it just me or does 1.16 load MUCH faster than 1.15
lean kiln
it should
golden gust
Well, aikar threw some of his magic in there to speed it up
untold copper
I'm talking when MC itself loads up
hollow plaza
The client?
slim nymph
@lean kiln nope, was my own finding
lean kiln
ah
slim nymph
jelly worked to optimize DFU to make it faster, I turned it off completely
slim nymph
everything it was doing was not even necessary
it was pre cacheing things for literally like every mc version
lean kiln
yeah I had a read of the patch notes, interesting
untold copper
@hollow plaza yea
hollow plaza
idk I guess Mojang made some improvements
untold copper
huh nice
magic river
"When something breaks in space, you have the rest of your life to fix it."
untold copper
ok
worn ember
@full jetty dota?
full jetty
?
full jetty
no worries!
vernal moth
Git gud ded
latent valve
Ye 10min ish
worn ember
aight
twin lagoon
weeb
latent valve
NoU
worn ember
latent valve
twin lagoon
latent valve
vernal moth
worn ember
why does everyone that ever does java have to make its own linked list implementation lmao
i see that stuff pass in TPH daily
i had to do it too and i had no clue what the fuck was happening
or what even was the purpose
golden gust
intro to java type courses, probably
LL is one of the easiest collections to implement
golden gust
Well, not really, you need to deal with array resizing
latent valve
ded lets go blast off
golden gust
Try teaching that to a bunch of skids
worn ember
people in my classes got confused that arrays werent dynamic
"tf you mean they dont resize"
true canyon
linked lists are more fun than goddamn self balancing binary trees...
worn ember
what about binary trees
vernal moth
why does everyone that ever does java have to make its own linked list implementation lmao
@worn ember it helps you understand how different collections work
I think that's valuable
As long as you don't actually use those productively that is, lol
worn ember
lol i guess
void void
@twin lagoon what else would you suggest for uhhhh... simply deploying docker into the vm
twin lagoon
hm?
void void
rancheros exists but i'd like to try out swarm
void void
lemme c
twin lagoon
it's a fork of fedora/coreos container linux
void void
o
twin lagoon
but red hat killed that
or well, it's fedora now but idk the state of it
so flatcar linux it is
void void
yea i remember that thing
twin lagoon
i've used it before it's cool
void void
yea installed rancheros & then realized it does not do swarm lol
made like 4 vm clones lol
smh my head
void void
ooooooo they have atom feed
yea gonna wire it to my concourse ci and push updates to my discord guild
ebin
woah selinux by default
void void
imagine watching 44min long video to learn selinux
would rather spend weeks in documentation instead
also google can fuck off for doing this
their iframe won't even load 50% of time
unreal quarry
imagine watching 44min long video to learn
selinuxtimings reports
runs away
void void
even better!
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mikro 😳
limber knotBOT
eww, steam cloud sync doesn't work between linux and windows? :(
at least manually replacing the save files worked I guess
void void
wtf
flatcar linux does not start docker on boot
yet it calls itself a distro MEANT to run containers
???????????
worn ember
omg thats insane
void void
yes ded
limpid comet
might as well make a new distro at that point
void void
you know, i already had that thought
limpid comet
if you make one, I'll deploy it to a dedi
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Setting_up_ZFS_with_native_encryption -- Alpine Linux with root on ZFS with native encryption -...: "Jul 11, 2020 ... 1 Setting up Alpine Linux using ZFS with a pool that uses ZFS' native encryption capabilities. 1.1 Download; 1.2 Initial setup; 1.3..."
void void
o
setting up zfs on alpine is less painful than with ubuntu/debian at least
alright then, one day ™
void void
yup, not as root fs
ok what is this bullshit lmaoo
how do i reconfigure flatcar's networking
void void
i mean in ideal i'd love when vm actually used dhcp
lol
yo what are spawn chunks? people who play survival say their good or something, but never say why?
void void
I mean yeah, but why are they good?
twin lagoon
because they're usually always loaded
void void
Which means ?
twin lagoon
they're always loaded / ticking
void void
So their good for ?
twin lagoon
farming
void void
hmm
alright
new players who join, spawn at the spawn point
is it possible to like set new spawn chunks ?
void void
isn't it like /setworldspawn ?
void void
hmm ok 🤔 cause I could be building a farm 50 blocks away from where i set the new spawn chunks, and idk if it would still be considered loaded
limpid comet
Does it make sense to use a Void completablefuture as a sort of "callback" by attaching whenCompletes to it?
void void
(actually just making a set of scripts to install alpine in a decent way)
limpid comet
mikropine
void void
no
crystal compass
this brings tps down by 8 WTF
void void
but yes bluely, it makes sense
limpid comet
yes
okay thanks :partyparrot:
option 2: alskeem
mikropine is dope
I'd tell all my friends proudly I'm running mikropine
void void
wtf wtf wtf
void void
i stg
swift root
Call it avalance-script or something
Assuming avalanche isn't already another type of software
limpid comet
hey, don't shoot the messenger ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
swift root
Or call it skiis
swift root
Warm bees
void void
gonna slap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfxC2LLjgYY into readme and call it a day
twin lagoon
because that's where containers go on
swift root
Why not just name it timothy
void void
imagine naming someone timothy
limpid comet
lol
swift root
Imagine naming YOUR OWN CHILD freighter
swift root
Nice
void void
what are you going to do now
swift root
Congrats
void void
man my github pfp looks sexy af
swift root
Avatar
void void
pfp
swift root
Classic
void void
Wait, does paper keep spawn chunks? I read somewhere they unload them?
it does & it does not unload them by default
swift root
@void void lmk when you're at issue 68 so I can attend to some personal business regarding the repo
limpid comet
oh i was looking at PRs ahahahaha
void void
50% of 0
swift root
I also want 50%
twin lagoon
shut up lorry
swift root
Michael and I can share your revenue
limpid comet
60% here, take it or leave it
void void
yeah shut up lorry you pinged me in other discord
swift root
You get nothing and Michael and I each get what we want eh
swift root
Well ya don't have the command here
swift root
Besides you got paid in knowledge
void void
but i already knew that
swift root
Ok fine but you gained the knowledge that I did too
void void
oh wow alpine can take setup stuff from so called commands file
no wait hurr durr
it's called "answer file"
limpid comet
wtf? using void CFs is based
ahh runAsync
yes
I think I'm getting it now :^)
found out podman had the ability to pause containers the other day
would be useful to pause a certain server if there's no players on
probably gonna need to set the max tick time to -1 or something so watchdog doesn't have a shit
worn ember
mikropp
golden gust
potent fossil
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wtf? using void CFs is based
@limpid comet still looking at my code? :p
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completablefuture
mighty storm
ah
limpid comet
I'm taking heavy inspiration, lol
cfs are great I just never really understood how to apply them
all i was going off of was stupid baeldung pages
limpid comet
async or sync
mighty storm
yeah i believe .complete() just runs it
i might be confuisng that with JDA RestActions
minor badge
a future is just that: something that is promised to be done sometime in the future
if you view it as anything more or less, youll lead yourself astray
limpid comet
i just didn't know how to view them :p
I am very bad with async
well
I think I'm getting a lot better now (thanks to your ban code)
mighty storm
only time you I do async is for long calls that dont access bukkit (like web reqs, db calls, etc)
minor badge
async is just "itll not be done right now. no promises on where or when, but itll be done". kinda like a future, really, just an encompassing term for all "sometime but not now" things
lean kiln
proxi why are you still awake
limpid comet
yeah it was just hard for me to wrap my mind around it (in Java especially, I've done lots of async work in python but that's "async kinda"
limber knotBOT
👀
limpid comet
mostly with discord.py
but now i feel far more comfortable since i can read competent examples
zealous wedge
@minor badge sleeeppp
mighty storm
you've been ree'd
zealous wedge
but warm blankets
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😔
zealous wedge
and rest
mighty storm
u dont need sleep dont listen to this heathen, rory will sleep for u
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@limpid comet ping/dm me if you need any help ^^
limpid comet
thanks proxi :)
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now i will sleep as im forced to 😔
zealous wedge
@mighty storm you should sleep - follow Rory's example :3
mighty storm
shes not alone! i have her ;3
twin lagoon
ok time to 
knotty rose
now I must master the art of the SQL statement
speaking of sql, is there jpa with default java?
cuz the only time i use it was using spring and i used dep injection, and idk how would it be possible to use it without it
the heck is this guy
at mods
nocturne falcon
my understanding is that that the mods and moderator roles are separated so
knotty rose
someone of them can be sleeping
nocturne falcon
if a moderator doesnt wanna get pinged, they'll just remove the mods role for the time being
knotty rose
proxi has mods role and is sleeping for example, and surely more people
golden gust
?ban @dire laurel > iplogger.org
worn ember
they're fine with it
leaden oxideBOT
macyeet12#8096 was banned | > iplogger.org
golden gust
The mods group is specifically there to be pinged
nocturne falcon
thank u Z ❤️
worn ember
or just spam ping cat
nocturne falcon
oop
mighty storm
wtf i didnt know quotes worked in fields
nocturne falcon
force of habit rip
worn ember
shouldnt have added z infront of your name then
mighty storm
yeah do yyyCat or smth
worn ember
xxxCat
mighty storm
so every time someone lazily does "y" instead of "why" u can ban them for pinging u
golden gust
I really wanna ban people who use 'k'
worn ember
knotty rose
Kk makes 0 sense
worn ember
lacist
mighty storm
ko
worn ember
no pressing kk is faster than ok
mighty storm
is it?
knotty rose
jjst a little
mighty storm
for me it's quicker to do ok
nocturne falcon
i dont think it is
mighty storm
since i gotta wait for the key to release
knotty rose
and you can still do just one k
mighty storm
then press it again
nocturne falcon
depends how your hand is positioned
yeah the key return is the biggest time factor
golden gust
I mean, it's tap tap vs tap move tap
mighty storm
i can type o and k at the same time, with "kk" i gotta press, let go, then press again
golden gust
unless you've got arthritis
nocturne falcon
i mean it depends how you type
knotty rose
You can just press k
but still indont think the differentpce between k and ok is that big
nocturne falcon
its def not a relevant difference
knotty rose
half a second is not gonna make a difference or smth
golden gust
It's effort
Generally I see that the people who can't even be assed to kk are generally the people who'll spend 2 months asking the same questions almost daily
knotty rose
Still the difference is ultrasmall
mighty storm
i agree
cunning raft
who cares one's a word and the other isn't
worn ember
i care
knotty rose
Just write ok it takes the same
peak dirge
Idea for me to do in Kaiserreich when not drowning in schoolwork: As syndicalist India, conquer the United States. Reverse outsourcing.
copper moss
okay*