goes to lookup stats on bombs in the UK
#general
golden gust
vernal moth
They go door to door
golden gust
find an article about the church of england on the same page
cosmic raft
Can't someone just, like, ignore them? :P
vernal moth
If they notice you are there, which isn't hard, they do this often, they will call the police
golden gust
So, yea, I hear about bombs in the UK as often as I hear about the church of england being... erm... well... priests
vernal moth
They will break your door if needed
They did that to one family today
It's just dum really, only delays stuff
cosmic raft
I see
vernal moth
They found the bomb at 11:30 or so, evacuation started at like 13:30, everbody was out at 18:00
tired heath
Pretty sure is a excessive action, like most such stuff is excessive and over reacted in Germany π
worn ember
vernal moth
Well, these things blow up
golden gust
I mean, realistically, yea
tired heath
but not 500 m
vernal moth
The bomb weights 1 tonne
Like, it's no joke
Sure, it will not level 500m radius
But it could still destroy windows
golden gust
They make the evac radiuses larger than needed so that if shit goes sideways, they don't gotta explain to the world how they toasted a few dozen families
tired heath
yeah an old bomb, with mostly degreated chemical mix in a hohle where the most physical energy goes straight in the sky
vernal moth
Idk, these ppl know what they are doing
And it's the same in austria btw so idk what you on about
I don't want to be close when they blow it up later
golden gust
annoying, but, better to be safe than sorry π€·ββοΈ
vernal moth
That's something you can definitely feel
golden gust
can you see them doing it, or, they got your further away?
vernal moth
Am at my parents
tired heath
Yeah we feel the landslide blasts each winter in the whole city, is normal that a blast wave goes miles thorugh the air
π
vernal moth
A few km out
cosmic raft
I can just picture it though
golden gust
(or, hope that you kick one)
cosmic raft
"Mini, why didn't you do your homework?"
"I did, but it got blown up."
vernal moth
I mean, I was hotfixing prod from my parents couch earlier ^^
vernal moth
My boss did rewrite the search for our intranet and couldn't index protected pages, fun stuff
golden gust
be even more of a pro if you didn't need to hot fix
vernal moth
I mean, I wasn't involved in testing that
worn ember
cat are you still a student or do you work? i forgot
golden gust
I freelance, basically
worn ember
so that means you'll do stuff for cheap? /s
worn ember
LOL
vernal moth
You done with uni now?
golden gust
Yea
vernal moth
Ah nice
Do you plan on working for a company or trying to make the freelance thing happen long term?
golden gust
I'm somewhere between working for this dude and watching out for a good role, too many offers are like "Hey, you wanna move all the way down to london", and remote working, but, am not 100% on remote
tired heath
Anyone here into Monero?
vernal moth
I wouldn't want 100% remote
vernal moth
I like having remote as an option
zealous wedge
pats kashike
golden gust
Yea, I'd love to have a "get up, scratch your ass, can't be arsed doing the journey" type deal, especially as an old man, winter tends to be pretty harsh on my knees, but, I'd hate not being able to go in and like, you know, humans
worn ember
we hate you for it too
vernal moth
Am allowed to go back into office every second week now
And I try to make like 3 days happen
But then again, I take 5 minutes by bike to office
worn ember
i still have no freaking clue what i wanna do, and i'm one year from graduating lol
vernal moth
I can understand not having to travel into the office
Also all the benefits of handling your family
Idk, it's different for everybody
Once this is all over, my lead wants to establish like two days where everybody is in office
And rest is up to you
worn ember
fair enough
vernal moth
Idk, I just miss my coworkers
And we already have like "meetings" just to drink a coffee and talk offtopic via webcam
heady spear
@mental meadow uwuwu oooowoooo uwu
vernal moth
It's just not the same
worn ember
i currently have an assignment where i work for a power distributor, they basically want us there at least once a week, but thats not really realistic atm lol
vernal moth
In office, I can hear a coworker yell over the floor and go over and take a look and stuff
heady spear
miniiiiiii I don't wannna dooooo the dumb testing course should I just say fukkit and learn C#?
then I can do godot shit
vernal moth
I learned c# in like a day for godot
zealous wedge
people seem to like C#?
vernal moth
It's super easy coming from java
worn ember
C# is like better java
vernal moth
The std lib is almost the same
worn ember
well better java with shitty names
heady spear
well I need to decide whether to take a boring ass testing methodologies course or learn .net
vernal moth
And linq I'd cooler than streams
zealous wedge
testing is important
heady spear
Well
waxen panther
lies
worn ember
linq is really noice
heady spear
I also decided not to do my bachelors thesis because i don't wanna
vernal moth
It's not testing zml, it's software life cycle
worn ember
i only really use it for database stuff but i know Nick abuses the shit out of it lol
heady spear
I have already been accepted into my masters programme sooo
waxen panther
chad
vernal moth
Without the requirement of your thesis?
heady spear
ye I don't need my bachelors for my masters as I'm doing an engineering programme
and it's 5 years lol
vernal moth
But don't you need the credits?
heady spear
Swedish curriculums are just weird
worn ember
if you do your bachelor you can just skip a bunch of classes iirc
at least thats how it is here
vernal moth
Like, you need 180 credits here for a master, which is exactly what you get doing a bachelor
heady spear
nah but if I don't do it I have to do:
- stochastic processes
- programming language theory
and then two of - database systems
- testing foundations
- C#.NET
waxen panther
ours isn't credit based here
heady spear
I get my credits without my bachelors thesis
I just take more courses instead
plus I already have enough credits bcuz I've done extra courses
so like gamer
worn ember
lol, we have x amount of points, which we get back when we complete our courses, so if you fail every year you eventually have nothing left and need to go work essentially
not a bad system tbh
golden gust
Over here, all the "optional" units are all the same points, so, doesn't matter what you pick
heady spear
I've decided to do database systems as uh, idk, seems like the least awful
golden gust
I'd avoid testing out of the fear of a it being a theretical paperwork cludgefest
worn ember
intellij plz
golden gust
I've never been great at report writing
heady spear
We need to get 30 points every semester. Most of the time we take two concurrent courses at 50% pace
for 2.5 months
some courses run at 25% pace, so an entire semester
And ye the testing one seems to mostly reading and then some more reading
with semINARs
fuck other people honestly n then I gotta listen to them being wrong about shit. nty
golden gust
Oh god, our foundations of computer science
We had some teacher who was literally just totally horrific to listen to
worn ember
i had one of those for analysis and design
heady spear
My class mates are all so stupid. Doesn't seem like they've learned anything over the last couple of years
waxen panther
one of my lecturers is impossible to listen to also
worn ember
fucking horrible to listen to, i'd rather watch a political debate for 2 hours straight
heady spear
My Operating Systems lecturer was boring as fuck, I gave it a shot two different lectures and nearly fell asleep both times
she was really nice but just awful at teaching
she basically just narrated the powerpoint slides that came with the book
worn ember
my OS teacher was a cyber crime person dude from Defense, so he was pretty noice
golden gust
Oh god
So, I was in the library for some assignments with my mates, I was sorta lazing around as I'd already done it, it was some basic java web app stuff or something
Some dude called me over to ask for help, and me being "am bored anyways", rolled over
I just, my heart twung as he just went 10 miles off course
Like, this was 2nd year too
There was also some woman on the course who literally
We had an android dev class
She literally comes out with "are we gonna make an android app?!"
We had an android dev class
mental meadow
I've made a castle out of scented candles
heady spear
Well my friend who is a 2nd year math major got a message from a 3rd year comp.sci student asking how to install Java and also how to open a .tex file soooo
ikea simp
y r u more swedish than me
golden gust
Pretty sure 90% of people are only on CS courses coz they believe it's ez cash sitting in front of a PC all day
I mean,
- android is fucking ass to work with
worn ember
my teacher is really bad at explaining shit for it too, so he just made us do the google codelabs lmao
golden gust
- The lectures are literally sitting around for what's basically a general OOP/architecture class, and labs of "just copy from the guide we copied from somewhere else"
android studio literally didn't even work for over half the year
cosmic raft
aurora :(
worn ember
idk how anyone develops anything for it tbh, its stitched together with 50 different libs and conventions
i have IOS development now, and god its so much nicer to work with
sure xcode is absolute trash, but swift and the api is nice to work with
xcode crashed when creating a new project, it also crashed when i dragged a window from one window to the other lol
well and the shitfest that is macOS that you have to work with
stiff yarrow
@golden gust I read some subreddits related to cs, I've read in the past you don't really get much solid experience with the degree since its so general unless you go for masters (this might be a USA only anecdote) and it was from reddit so I can't validate that claim
mental meadow
What's wrong kash :(
worn ember
well cs is more theory than anything else
golden gust
It's the problem with courses in general
stiff yarrow
ded there's a degree in theory and then there is cs
vernal moth
I can agree that uni doesn't give you experience
Especially not working in a company
heady spear
Also plz realise that CS degrees are very different from country to country
not everyone is in america
worn ember
π well done, city, you're very smart
mental meadow
not everyone is in america
Wrong
heady spear
Well ppl seem to have a very hard time understanding that
stiff yarrow
but only america matters so we should assume so anyways 
golden gust
Well, Unis these days try to "pull in a project" so they can say that you worked on some "real" solution
but, really, it's a sham
heady spear
our thesis work here is almost always based around a real-life job with some enterprise partner
next frost
our cs degree here is pure theory lol
worn ember
murica relevant in 2020?
google: did you mean china
golden gust
The people that generally do well in software dev are the ones who do stuff outside of uni
heady spear
we also have monthly meetings with companies and shit to get to know ppl
next frost
it's just like maths
stiff yarrow
where were you again, NL? @heady spear
heady spear
Sweden
stiff yarrow
close enough
worn ember
lmao imagine city being a kaaskop
heady spear
But uh, I am getting a very theoretical degree
stiff yarrow
.g kaaskop
limber knotBOT
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heady spear
the applications are mostly optionals
golden gust
even private personal projects, coz it gives you something to talk about, and shows that you actually have a care, not that you're gonna flunk out of the company in a few months when you realise it's above your head, or, they figure out they made a mistake
stiff yarrow
what year are you cat, 3rd?
golden gust
i finished
heady spear
I've learned more about software development after working on my personal projects
worn ember
hes a freelancer now
heady spear
he's a freebaser now*
stiff yarrow
worn ember
that works for cheap in the alleys
stiff yarrow
congrats on whenever you finished
stiff yarrow
is your degree labeled cs in your country cityweeb
worn ember
i havent had much issues with java in college but now we have Spring which is kinda 
heady spear
wanna π π¦
next frost
bruh
stiff yarrow
I've worked with Spring, it was a bit odd
next frost
hanging around on teamspeak
heady spear
my degree is called computer engineering
mossy vessel
@heady spear I would
golden gust
Spring is beautiful
worn ember
they have like 20 modules lol
heady spear
but it's engineering only because it's an engineering degree
not because we're doing engineering
worn ember
what are you engineering
heady spear
computers, obviously
heady spear
We had to take some general engineering courses lol, like some electrical engineering and engineering mechanics
oh and circuits and shit
now I can build bridges :3
heady spear
and now we have to do dumb shit like integrated systems
and distributed systems
and systems engineering
fuck those systems
worn ember
no thanks
golden gust
I can only imagine a bridge made by city would somehow end up veering off into somebodies back door
worn ember
probably would collapse from concurrency issues
golden gust
I mean, he is swedish
heady spear
Oh also we learned how to do python socket programming so
golden gust
and if a certain swedish company is anything to go by
limpid comet
omg imagine getting penetrated by a bridge
what in god's name did I just walk into
worn ember
i have a node class in my second semester 
golden gust
ITT
heady spear
@mossy vessel ok?
worn ember
maybe i'll finally be able to finish my multiplayer snake game
heady spear
cat everything u say is so sexy
mossy vessel
π
heady spear
ur like porn to me
zealous wedge
smh city stop being horny on main
worn ember
i love how electron still hasnt fixed that 4 year old bug with windows overflowing
i get emails daily from it cuz people keep reviving the issue xD
oh well they "solved" it by closing it
stiff yarrow
Canβt help but take everything ded says with a grain of unlikely to be true and too lazy to confirm 
heady spear
I can't help itttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
worn ember
@stiff yarrow https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/5267 how so?
sly ruin
I always find it funny that electron is basically just a web browser without a search bar (Chromium IIRC).
limpid comet
electron's existence is a joke
worn ember
1.4k open issues lol
cunning raft
dark is right about that
stiff yarrow
Fix frameless window overflow on Windows by kevinsawicki Β· Pull Request #9167 Β· electron/electron Β· GitHub
https://github.com/electron/electron/pull/9167 this is what closed it
heady spear
the main problem with electron is that anyone that has ever touched javascript has got the yikes
cunning raft
it's more an underlying problem in chromium
I know I still experience it from time to time
waxen panther
it's windows anyway who cares
stiff yarrow
So it was closed by merge and should probably be reopened if it still exists, dedβs claim that they solved it by βclosingβ it has been debunked and my caution was warranted
worn ember
well its 2020 and i still have the issue in all my electron apps, so clearly its not fixed lol
also its not fixed
also all the comments on it seem to suggest it still exists
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
mighty storm
im in antoehr vc
worn ember
ok
heady spear
paper dead
cunning raft
anyways dark it's an issue in chrome itself
i don't think there's much electron can do
efficiently anyways
worn ember
its an annoying ass issue tho
cunning raft
yeah trust me ik
i got 4 monitors so that shits hella annoying because it will cross monitors
stiff yarrow
Well they could submit a fix for it in chromium presumably if we want to take nothing they can do literally
worn ember
yeah i have the same with multiple monitors
cosmic raft
blah
cunning raft
it's been reported to google many times (including by me) and there have been many attempts to fix it (also including me)
cosmic raft
i really want a tablet one of these days
stiff yarrow
what would you use it for
worn ember
seems to be something w10 related issue
cunning raft
def windows 10
stiff yarrow
so the real issue is using a shitty OS
cosmic raft
Notes mainly
cosmic raft
macOS is bae though
stiff yarrow
I love using paper for notes
stiff yarrow
losing π
cosmic raft
yes
worn ember
its annoying to work with, tabs are so annoying to work with, the fact you gotta right click your icon to see open windows etc
heady spear
I love taking notes on my ipad but I got the cheap one bcuz poor
cosmic raft
paper is easy to lose
worn ember
really hinders workflow
heady spear
and the screen is wonky wonk
cosmic raft
what ipad city
stiff yarrow
speaking of losing notes kash, I have plans to scan my backlog of notes for historical reasons and have been too lazy to do it
cosmic raft
@waxen panther what tablet
heady spear
the 2018 one
mossy vessel
Oh man, I played a game that is not mc for the first time today after 3 years or so? lol
stiff yarrow
Most of my old notes are in these
waxen panther
π³
cosmic raft
wow nossr
heady spear
imagine having dispposable income
waxen panther
imagine making money from mc
worn ember
daily weeb rant about money
heady spear
I have 4 notebooks next to me. Square paper only tho, fuck college ruled paper
if u use ruled paper ur small brain
that's a scientific fact
cosmic raft
I only use graph paper
worn ember
its paper where you draw graphs on obviously
coarse hornetBOT
stiff yarrow
This stack of notes on my desk is just for my next update, maybe 10-20 papers all from a drawpad
oh I recently installed my 5th whiteboard and its huge
worn ember
why not get one of those "paper writers" that feel like paper but are a digital device
heady spear
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/712294045312876586/760259496223309834/image0.jpg?width=2160&height=2881
this is the only way to take notes
cursive, black ink on grid paper
wide chasm
Eww small squares
cosmic raft
that is the same paper i have
mossy vessel
Imagine taking notes on a paper
waxen panther
heady spear
yay kash I love u
cosmic raft
uwu
the reason I brought this up is
I wrote some important stuff down
now I cannot find that paper
if I had a tablet I could just search all notes
worn ember
me every time
stiff yarrow
heady spear
I write my notes on grid paper and then I often re-write them in latex and store them in google drive and icloud
cosmic raft
latex? kinky
worn ember
one reason i failed my OS class is cuz i lost all my notes, and i still have no clue where they went
cosmic raft
:)))
waxen panther
I've started reading random CS papers and it's hard to keep track of them
ipad will be good for noting them and sorting them
heady spear
I use a spreadsheet to keep track of papers I've read
then I store them all in a drive folder π
I don't really spend a lot of time looking at my notes but the act of writing them helps me memorize shit
stiff yarrow
I do very little digital note taking, I prefer to write them down, I feel like it makes them easier to remember, plus having a note in plain sight is a great visual reminder (hence having so many whiteboards as well)
heady spear
and the latex documents are nice for sharing with ppl
zealous wedge
lol actual graph paper? so extra
I just write my notes on the back of paper I've printed and don't need anymore
waxen panther
zml really out here flexing that they can draw perfect graphs with no aid
cosmic raft
broc breaking my heart
waxen panther
we get it ur perfect
zealous wedge
I don't draw graphs lol
cosmic raft
cancelling the $1/mo github sponsor
waxen panther
did i
cosmic raft
yes
waxen panther
lies
cosmic raft
cosmic raft
uwu
zealous wedge
I'm not as bad as this one director I work with who writes her notes on top of existing writing
she's terrifyingly chaotic
cyan nova
notes organized (somewhat) into binders
waxen panther
I'm not as bad as this one director I work with who writes her notes on top of existing writing
wtf
stiff yarrow
smh not even sponsoring for at least 10 USD
waxen panther
i am a poor college student
heady spear
I wanna get github stars
waxen panther
i am about to LEAVE my ROOM
heady spear
idiot
waxen panther
wtf
heady spear
I've sponsored kash for long time
because im true simp
I also simp zml
and chew
and aurora
waxen panther
ITS PASSING
heady spear
but it WASN'T
waxen panther
WASNT FROM ME
stiff yarrow
I have a hard time working on more than one thing, I'm trying to change though π
heady spear
ima try to fix jline so I can publish this bad boy to central
and start working on something else
waxen panther
jline is quite messy
heady spear
brocc I forgot another build file lol
waxen panther
does the preprocessor not fire for brig?
lmao
i know you said something about preprocessors and brig before but i forgot
heady spear
I did notr
waxen panther
hnn
heady spear
k cloud-tasks has build file yay
heady spear
?
heady spear
idk what u mean
oh
yeah no that isn't needed
all of the commented stuff can be yeeted out
waxen panther
it's beautiful
fallen oracle
If I ever have a need for run-time commands, I'll play with it.
cosmic raft
...when else would you use commands? print them off and mail them to people?
heady spear
what about dope ass broken mojang argument types
so you can be frustrated about how bad mojang are at doing anything
heady spear
wtf broc
waxen panther
what
zealous wedge
why do you have a Soul
fallen oracle
Interesting.
waxen panther
User is already a class of something and i couldn't think of another name
heady spear
why u tryna paypal scam ppl
zealous wedge
what about users who don't have souls?
heady spear
https://github.com/Sauilitired/cloud/blob/master/examples/example-bukkit/src/main/java/cloud/commandframework/examples/bukkit/ExamplePlugin.java
This is really ugly in comparison broc
waxen panther
console doesn't have a soul either but they're part of it
heady spear
I should let you write examples
tbf it got uglier when I added the synchronization stuff
minor badge
@heady spear uwu
waxen panther
yeah but then i have to write comments
heady spear
bro wtf
zealous wedge
@minor badge uwu
minor badge
city really do have 6 fucking 4 space indents in that example
heady spear
yes
waxen panther
proxi is mad again
minor badge
no you're just stupid
minor badge
return Pair.of(null, new InvalidCommandSenderException(commandContext.getSender(),
command.getSenderType().get(),
Collections.emptyList()));```this is just ugly
fallen oracle
Just looked at the example plugin, that looks hella cool Hallow. I really like the confirmation stuff
heady spear
so I might change the editorconfig and reformat everything
That confirmation was mostly just a demonstration of the postprocessing stage
but it ended up being quite useful
fallen oracle
Wish ACF had that but I ended up just adding my own
heady spear
https://github.com/Sauilitired/cloud/wiki/Execution-Pipeline
I made a diagram
it has a stick figure
waxen panther
Art
heady spear
? it's an example of using builders, it's very straight forward lol
lean kiln
thats not a mess is beatiful
green turret
the "." has to ALIGN
@heady spear I agree, but you are doing it the wrong way. Break the line before the first dot and it will all align at one (set continuation indent to 4) indent level and look need.
heady spear
I am not happy with the alignment stuff in general, doesn't really work well with super-verbose-java-names
green turret
You shouldn't take style advice from City
lean kiln
haha
green turret
This is programming, not furniture!
heady spear
then it looks even worse
Anyway, I am not happy with the code style and before the 1.0.0 push to central am gonna change it
green turret
I'll fix it for you
heady spear
I will definitely keep parameter lists on separate lines tho
green turret
Tomorrow evening I will teach you the way
heady spear
everything else is gross
fallen oracle
I really like that you document most of the stuff. It makes it a lot easier to understand.
heady spear
I'm also gonna spend time on the wiki this time around because there are cool features that people will prolly like
tired heath
RoboMWM may I ask you something about griefPrev. I just want to restore nature, but it looks like I can not do it in a claimed area, like no matter if I own the area or if I toggle IgnoreClaims
green turret
Line break right after the lparen and let the alignment flow consistently
green turret
And then again right before the rparen
stiff yarrow
I really like that you document most of the stuff. It makes it a lot easier to understand.
@fallen oracle its a good habit
fallen oracle
It really is!
heady spear
I don't really document most internal code, but this is an example. I do however document all public methods because obviously
fallen oracle
I typically do everything I can because I forget easily.
green turret
City, trust me, if you want your code to be readable and consistent, then just do as I say. Tomorrow we will fix it all and you will become happy.
heady spear
ur wrong
I am not gonna line break before first param
that's disgusting
look how nice the command class looks
green turret
Don't worry, you'll like it.
heady spear
it's sexy
fallen oracle
Clean it up!
unreal quarry
green turret
Indenting for alignment the way you do it is messy by definition. It can never be decent. It will always be horrible.
cosmic raft
I do this:
public void foo(
final Foo foo,
final Bar bar,
) {
// ....
}
wait do you also line break before )
cosmic raft
for lots of args
green turret
Yes
green turret
Kashike knows
cosmic raft
lowercase k in kashike!
heady spear
I've done that in some places when necessary
green turret
KASHIKE
heady spear
and I haven't hated it
vernal moth
I have found a bed for today π
heady spear
also if kashike says it, it must be good
green turret
Sorry, phone auto uppercased
mental meadow
Where are you mini
green turret
City, it's good because I said it!
heady spear
no
vernal moth
Where are you mini
@mental meadow my old old bedroom
vernal moth
Like where I slept 5 years ago
mental meadow
kashike pls like me as well
cosmic raft
I accept bribes
mental meadow
Can I bribe you with love
green turret
Just use that parameter list formating and he will auto like
Because it is da wae 
The only thing that makes it a little annoying in Java is that it doesn't support trailing commas. If we had that, this code style would be unstoppable!
cosmic raft
trailing commas should die
green turret
No, min diffs!
cosmic raft
screw minimal diffs :p
minor badge
@cosmic raft ```java
@Nullable
@SideEffectFree
public <T> T[] create_array(
int size)
{ return new T[size]; }
I charge $500 per hour when you say it like that, @green turret
green turret
Wtf
cosmic raft
mental meadow
Worth it for kash 
golden gust
Kash
green turret
What rounding method do you use kash?
heady spear
ye I'm trying it out
golden gust
we need to have a chat later π
heady spear
I refuse to change my builders tho
green turret
Truncation?
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when kash-sama ignores you π
green turret
I will spend 5 minutes. That's less than an hour.
cosmic raft
that code does not work proxi
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does it not
green turret
Truncation works for me! I only do integer maths.
mental meadow
But it's sideeffectfree
limber knotBOT
gotta hate generics xD
green turret
kashama
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uwu
worn ember
simon is the only sensible person there
vernal moth
Simon is cool tho
vernal moth
In german we have dieter Bohlen, the asshole version of simon
What is StellarSpigot?
@void void crap ware
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mini!! :D
void void
it costs $300 fucking dollars
vernal moth
Proxiiiiiiii
void void
wtf
limber knotBOT
the more it costs the worse it gets 
formal turret
the more money it costs the higher quality it is
vernal moth
Buy yourself weed from that, has a better effect on your server performance
void void
if not Im out
limber knotBOT
one of those statements is wrong π
void void
id rather AtomSpigot but ok
vernal moth
Mine isn't, that's for sure π
minor badge
wie geht's, mini?
vernal moth
Ganz gut proxi
limber knotBOT
sprechen wir jetzt alle deutsch hier? π
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vielleicht so
vernal moth
It's just that police escorted me out of my apartment and I need to sleep in my tiny as child bed now at my parents ^^
worn ember
whats the german equivalent of "oui oui, honk honk baguette"?
tired heath
RoboMWM never mind, I used worldedit meanwhile
heady spear
https://pastie.io/rtquft.java
Have I missed anything?
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final Pair<@Nullable Command<C>, @Nullable Exception> pair = this.parseCommand(new ArrayList<>(),
commandContext,
args,
this.internalTree);```
this heresywhats the german equivalent of "oui oui, honk honk baguette"?
@worn ember ACHTUNG!
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commandContext.getSender(), this.getChain(root)
.stream()
.filter(node -> node.getValue() != null)
.map(Node::getValue)
.collect(
Collectors.toList())));```
why is the collector on a new lineHALT STOP!
heady spear
I don't know proxi that was just bad copy & paste
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commandContext.store("__parsing_argument__", i + 2);
heady spear
idk why the else id is being fucked up there lol
worn ember
Honk honk, ACHTUNG
limber knotBOT
pretty sure it's actually RindfleischetikettierungsΓΌberwachungsaufgabenΓΌbertragungsgesetz Mini
vernal bone
Simon is cool tho
Thanks mini
worn ember
mini, when covid is over (if it ever does) we should go to tomorrowland together
worn ember
well we get first choice :p
vernal moth
For mere mortals it's just hard to get proper tickets
Oh nice
Whenever I make plans for festivals, always something happens and we don't go
worn ember
also i have some connections to people that help set up the stages so maybe i can pull something off
vernal moth
So I never was to one before, lol
worn ember
i usually just dont have the money
worn ember
my backyard is pretty big lol, can come chill here
minor badge
cat's approving stuff 
worn ember
can sleep with the cats in the barn
i should probably figure out how the patch system works sooner than later so i can pr a shitload of features and get them all rejected
vernal moth
Aren't you in Belgium?
worn ember
ye
vernal moth
I can't enter Belgium
worn ember
oh right red zone
golden gust
Bleh, I thought adding a comment to see the comment would hide it from the "needs review"
vernal moth
I booked a fucking bungalow in beligum for a week next week
But then you cowards decided to go all red zone on me
worn ember
well shits going downhill, they're enforcing more stricter rules on friday
vernal moth
I seems like every country around us is going fucking down hill
heady spear
@green turret happy? https://pastie.io/zsexpj.java <.<
worn ember
cuz people are sick and tired of it
limber knotBOT
I mean, Germany is slowly getting worse too :Eyes:
worn ember
so they're starting to neglect the rules
vernal moth
We are top 4 or smth in europe tho phoenix
So like everything is worse if you ignore fucking norway
limber knotBOT
doesn't stop people from not fucking wearing their masks in stores smh
heady spear
also kashikeeeeee interested in ur take on this
waxen panther
@heady spear whatd you do
limber knotBOT
not even the security on the trains
heady spear
I think wrap after ( looks awkward af but
less indent = yay
am changing the code style broc :3
waxen panther
Oh nice
worn ember
look at those deaths tho 
waxen panther
Some of the indents are getting pretty 
worn ember
we have half the cases of germany but more deaths
worn ember
we did have an outbreak in the resting homes tho, which contributed a lot to the death count
worn ember
you had twice the amount of infected tho
void void
do someone know how I can prevent ores from spawning in a world? (worldedit/fill wont work cuz that would only do it one time and new chunks would still spawn them..)
worn ember
custom world gen i suppose
void void
custom world was removed in 1.13, I think this would require a plugin or something tbh
green turret
@green turret happy? https://pastie.io/zsexpj.java <.<
@heady spear with the parameter lists in the method signatures, yes :3
heady spear
I don't like doing that for method calls I've decided
but for the parameter lists it's fine
golden gust
I mean, people are done with it over here, locked down too early, tried to open up too early but only where it benifited them; e.g. we should go back to work, but fuck you if you wanna go for a drink at the pub with your work buds
green turret
It's also good for method calls, but if your variables have very short names, it looks weird.
heady spear
it looks dumb for super calls
golden gust
Oh, and remember, not wearing a mask is a hefty fine
heady spear
no nevermind I like it now
golden gust
But, it's okay to drive a few hundred miles to take your children to your parents coz you've got a positive test and wanna protect them
Not to mention, going to a park or something coz you wanna check if your eyes are k
heady spear
golden gust
People literally have 0 faith in the government at this point
worn ember
tbh i think parks and stuff are fine, its mostly crowded places that are the issue
golden gust
That was at the point where "stay in" orders where in play
e.g. non essential travel being banned
green turret
Honestly City, I think it would benefit a lot from extracting some of the chained calls into variables. So instead of doing m(a.b().c(), d.e().f()), split it into three lines so that you end up with m(x, y) on the last line. It'll make the glanceability much better. The many nested calls get super hairy.
golden gust
Nobody had any issues with the park, they had issues with the total hypocrisy
heady spear
Meh, for shit like this doesn't matter, it'll just introduce a bunch of annoying temp variables
worn ember
they put a curfew at 11pm here now, going into effect friday, used to be 1am i think
and max 4 people at a table in a pub
worn ember
that stuff i dont mind, its just that wearing a mask all day is annoying as fuck
heady spear
final @Nullable BiFunction<@NonNull CommandContext<C>, @NonNull String, @NonNull List<@NonNull String>> suggestionsProvider
mighty storm
poger
golden gust
Well, we have the 10pm curfew, so, people just go out earlier, get pissed harder/faster, and flood the public transport all at the same point in time
worn ember
same here probably, dont really know cuz i havent been out much lately
golden gust
I mean, we had a police force a few months ago when they opened up all the clubs again, basically acting surprised that people who are bladdered don't respect the social distancing rules
It's like...
worn ember
college busses are always crammed as fuck tho
heady spear
But when chopping down param list I want
method(
a,
b,
c
)
rather than
method(a,
b,
c);
or
method(a,
b,
c);
Temporary variables can be really good for readability, as it gives the reader a chance to abstract away some of the details to understand the bigger picture. Each method you write is a conceptual abstraction, and each variable can be one as well.
First
heady spear
I do that when it makes sense, here it's just returning the thing immediately
worn ember
yeah, same here, people get pissed and then shit on the rules and then shit hits the fan and everyone gets punished for it
heady spear
am not gonna introduce variables if I immediately return
limber knotBOT
that's the point ofunny you aren't meant to do it in a claim
it's made so you can't accidentally wipe out a claim
green turret
public int foo(Thing a, Thong b) {
return bar(
a.c().e().g(),
b.d().f().h()
);
}
vs
public int foo(Thing a, Thong b) {
String name = a.c().e().g();
int age = b.d().f().h();
return bar(name, age);
}
Thong π
worn ember
Robo, you cant tell me what to wipe 
golden gust
Thong π
You mean a free perma wedgie
worn ember
did you mean a String
green turret
The prefix comments are something... Jesus
cosmic raft
prefix comments?
heady spear
these are just to help people understand wtf is going on
ExamplePlugin indicating that it's an example
limber knotBOT
no
fallen oracle
So with your confirm system do you just have to run the command twice or does it automatically add a /confirm to the command you ran?
heady spear
this.manager.command(builder.literal("confirm")
.meta("description", "Confirm a pending command")
.handler(this.confirmationManager.createConfirmationExecutionHandler()));
Oh so it's always /confirm
heady spear
It uses command meta and the postprocessor to store the pending command
yes, it'll tell you to use whatever command you told it to use, and then you run /confirm or w/e you want
fallen oracle
I thought it made it like /command confirm
heady spear
nah, that'd be a mess
green turret
I think the builder stuff is great, but it just seems like it is masking something too complex to be solved cleanly by them here. I mean, everything in moderation. You wouldn't write a 500-line method without builders, and you probably shouldn't write one with either :P
heady spear
I kinda expect you to forward the handler somewhere else
so just build commands bind the handlers to some method
Hell, do some fun DI and create a new instance of some command class, that's nice
fallen oracle
Yeah the builder looks cool
heady spear
final CommandArgument<YourSender, World> worldArgument = WorldArgument.of("world");
manager.command(manager.commandBuilder("command")
.literal("subcommand")
.argument(worldArgument, Description.of("Some world")
.handler(YourCommandClass::new);
So can you also create and register your own custom arguments?
heady spear
These parsers are then stored in a registry, which is used for the annotations
cosmic raft
No, you can only use integers. You have to create a string using the integer value of each character
heady spear
anyway kashhhh is the new style better? it looks less awkward I feel like
cosmic raft
link to newest version?
cosmic raft
well
in general
withSenderType -> naming is not consistent with the rest of things
heady spear
Glare, you can do stuff like
.command(mgr.commandBuilder("uuidtest")
.argument(UUID.class, "uuid", builder -> builder
.asRequired()
.withParser((c, i) -> {
final String string = i.peek();
try {
final UUID uuid = UUID.fromString(string);
i.remove();
return ArgumentParseResult.success(uuid);
} catch (final Exception e) {
return ArgumentParseResult.failure(e);
}
}))
.handler(c -> c.getSender().sendMessage(String.format("UUID: %s\n", c.<UUID>getOptional("uuid").orElse(null)))))
(obviously wouldn't do that inline, but you can)
or
manager.command(mgr.commandBuilder("teleport")
.meta("description", "Takes in a location and teleports the player there")
.withSenderType(Player.class)
.argument(WorldArgument.of("world"), Description.of("World name"))
.argumentTriplet("coords",
TypeToken.get(Vector.class),
Triplet.of("x", "y", "z"),
Triplet.of(Double.class, Double.class, Double.class),
triplet -> new Vector(triplet.getFirst(), triplet.getSecond(), triplet.getThird()),
Description.of("Coordinates"))
.handler(context -> {
context.getSender().sendMessage(ChatColor.GOLD + "Teleporting!");
Bukkit.getScheduler().runTask(this, () -> {
final World world = context.get("world");
final Vector vector = context.get("coords");
((Player) context.getSender()).teleport(vector.toLocation(world));
});
}));
To group arguments together and map them to stuff, etc
cosmic raft
TypeToken.get(Vector.class), -> Vector.class,
wrapping manually should be avoided when unnecessary, reduces noise
heady spear
Ye I noticed that too, but that's besides the point π
fallen oracle
That's pretty cool.
cosmic raft
you asked me what I think
heady spear
am solely talking style D:
cosmic raft
I am giving my thoughts
heady spear
not the code itself
heady spear
lol but yes I've planned to fix those things alreadyyyyy
cosmic raft
as for style
it is mostly okay
a couple odd thigns
line 200 for example
this.manager.command(builder.literal("teleport")
I would do
this.manager.command(\n....
heady spear
okay I want a line break there
but
intellij is dumb
and it doesn't do that when using method call chains
cause it's only one big parameter
so it doesn't think it's big enough to wrap
vernal moth
Ok so they gonna out 42 tonnes of sand on the bomb
And let it go boom
Fuuuuuuuuunnnn
cosmic raft
heh
heady spear
soooo I can't enforce that with editorConfig I don't think
tired heath
Actually I never used Dynmap before, how is your experience, will it take a lot of ressources?
heady spear
ye no intellij is just dumb there. Too bad.
vernal moth
Dynmap Takes ages for initial render and eats storage for big maps
Other than that it's fine
stiff yarrow
I need some recommendations for mic w/ good noise cancelling and Bluetooth headphones w/ good noise cancelling, or a BT headset with those
GFβs work computer mic is poor and picks up all the noise and sheβs in meetings a lot
tired heath
I mean that's fine, I'm just worried about the real time updates after the init
since it checks a lot actions
(triggers)
heady spear
https://github.com/Sauilitired/cloud/blob/reformat/cloud-core/src/main/java/cloud/commandframework/Command.java
This I'm really happy with tho
ok this will have to do
stiff yarrow
Very clean nice job
vernal moth
I need some recommendations for mic w/ good noise cancelling and Bluetooth headphones w/ good noise cancelling, or a BT headset with those
GFβs work computer mic is poor and picks up all the noise and sheβs in meetings a lot
@stiff yarrow sony wh-1000mx4
Or whatever they are called
You can vaccum next to them and neither you, nor the ppl on the other side will hear it
.g mkbhd wh-1000mx4
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heady spear
so expensive tho
worn ember
stiff yarrow
@vernal moth thanks for the recommendation
vernal moth
Das quality
I got the mx3s
Totally love them, def worth the price
If you wanna safe a buck and don't require multiple device support and slightly less of everything else, you might be able to get mx3s on a good deal
vernal moth
Bomb update, 42 tonnes wasn't enough
They be getting another 28
π π
When I wake up tomorrow it's gonna be 100
I bet
cosmic raft
rip
golden gust
somebody in germany found one of our presents
twin lagoon
dapper nacelle
stiff yarrow
o someone tried to ddos my vps according to ovh
@heady spear but why tho
mighty storm
same
stiff yarrow
Das quality
@vernal moth I have something similar from Sony
vernal moth
I mean
I understand not everybody wants to spend 350 bucks on headphones
I just got so used to high quality stuff that everything sound like shit
So I can't buy anything else
worn ember
thats your own fault hah
twin lagoon
that's good though
better to buy proper gear than $50 headphones that break within a year
or just don't sound good
mighty storm
i used to live off of those $5 target headphones
potent fossil
eh I still have my Bose QC 35 IIs. Old now, but they're still fine. If they take a shit then I'll upgrade to something else
golden gust
I think that it's like, when you see people walking around with dollar store headphones
Like, yea, sure, if that's what you're used to, i guess you could cope
but, ever since I spent more than a few bucks on headphones, you can literally tell what you're missing
worn ember
i bought 80euro samsung earbuds, they're honestly not half bad, i did lose them a few days ago tho lol
golden gust
I prefer over ears
worn ember
over ears always give me whistle noises when cycling
potent fossil
Only thing about these Bose ones is that the earpads deteriorated pretty badly. Sound quality and noise cancelling got real bad, etc.
golden gust
But, saying that, I did get some dual driver headphones for like Β£20 a good while back that kicked ass until I lost a pair and broke another
vernal moth
I have that for so many things
potent fossil
Just ordered replacement pads and they were good as new
vernal moth
Like I can't eat at McDonald's
worn ember
i'll eat mcdo, but honestly i dont think its that good
mighty storm
i hate the ones that go into your ear, they never fit
worn ember
my dad is such a good cook the food from other people always tastes bad
vernal moth
See, that's the difference, I cant eat something when I know I could get smth better
This got worse when I started cooking properly
worn ember
my mom on the other hand is a horrible cook, so yeah, big difference
vernal moth
My mom can cook and my dad adds the spices ^^
worn ember
and then theres me who puts lasagna with the plastic in the oven
vernal moth
But complicated stuff he cooks himself
golden gust
you mean salt?
mighty storm
didnt grammarly have some sort of way to get it free for a month
vernal moth
He grows his own ones ^^
worn ember
i used to grow my own strawberries and tomatoes, the difference from the ones at the store is so damn high
they're soooo much better
worn ember
shut up boomer
golden gust
worn ember
shoudlve stayed on their island
vernal moth
I mean, if I understood brexit properly, that's their plan
- runs *
Anyways, I really need to sleep now
worn ember
same tbh
vernal moth
If I can't get back to my flat tomorrow morning we gonna have to scarifice a cat
golden gust
golden gust
Yea, it's weird, but, you can't get cigs at the standard checkout lines
So, you generally do your shopping and buy cigs on the way out, at least, that's what my grandfather did
worn ember
here theres usually one checkout that has all the booze and cigs
golden gust
the pharmacy is generally sorta like a rando rented out area somewhere, they generally don't have their own thing but have a larger company like boots in there
worn ember
here pharmacies have their own stores
you cant even buy them in regular stores
oh god tomorrow is gonna be a long day
worn ember
first one is aight, but the second one feels like 4 hours
golden gust
I mean, it sounds like it's just somebody preaching about some UI design fluff
stiff yarrow
@vernal moth yeah its a lower model, I think it was around 200 when I got it but don't remember
worn ember
its about design and "gamification" elements in apps and websites
something to keep the attention of your users
like interactive maps and stuff like that
potent fossil
worn ember
its really a useless class, but you cant skip it cuz you get an assignment at the end of it every damn time
probably cuz else everyone would skip
mighty storm
ah yes
merry talon
I mean I bet that's the bug with the most reports..
halp!! discord not working!!
I guess they've finally done it
gritty peak
[REDACTED]
potent fossil
@gritty peak Please read the Paper rules in #welcome and the guidelines on the website, namely the part where looking for hiring is not allowed here ^^
Spigot's hiring forum / MCMarket are the usual go-to places.
MCMarket would be the 2nd tier choice because they have a lot of scammers.
gritty peak
My bad, totally didn't see that! π
potent fossil
np
foggy venture
yo, how many crumbs are on your mouse pad?
foggy venture
i use mine as a plate sometimes and then shake it off in the trash
potent fossil
i absolutely do not use mine as a plate
drowsy forge
spong vs paper what are the advantages
potent fossil
sponge can do forge mods, but it's stuck at 1.12.2 (soon to be 1.14 i think?)
paper can't do mods (nor does it want to), but you get latest MC.
drowsy forge
i thought that was only sponge forge
potent fossil
yea, i mean, all of sponge is stuck at 1.12.2. other than that, it's a custom server with no mojang code
(iirc)
potent fossil
I have no idea.
drowsy forge
ok
restive thicket
potent fossil
Oh really? My bad
heady spear
yea, i mean, all of sponge is stuck at 1.12.2. other than that, it's a custom server with no mojang code
Uh so version 8 is currently at 1.15 yes, but it's very much in-dev, v7 is for 1.12. It's NMS based, so it's using a lot of Mojang code
drowsy forge
1.8-1.12.2 in "Vanilla" (with plugins) in stable same in experimental
potent fossil
ok, so i didn't recall correctly. thanks for the correction
heady spear
and fwiw the version 8 API looks really cool
potent fossil
oh right, sponge is detached from bukkit not detached from mojang. had that shit mixed up with glowstone