I was forced into the "PC gaming" market as a result of trying to buy a workstation for not a lot of money.
#general
peak dirge
Not going to lie, I did eventually walk away with a 3900X, which is an awesome chip if you can get it for $400 or so like I did, but still...
slim nymph
these SSD's in XSX/PS5, arent they special built to be faster than standard NVME drives ?
golden gust
Tbh, gpu pricing these days is crazy, especially when you have the bitcoin wave and the entire stock disappears
apparently so
peak dirge
yep, higher bandwidth NAND and beefy controllers, plus onboard (de)compression
slim nymph
so yeah gl building anything equiv to them in raw PC lol.
without spending a good chunk
golden gust
doesn't really matter, tbqh
peak dirge
PCs will eventually overtake the consoles here, given that DirectStorage will be supported by NVIDIA and AMD
Yeah, the only PC upgrade I'd like now is to add a second monitor.
slim nymph
sure, but in 3-5 years my ass will still be enjoying great looking games 😛
golden gust
Well
slim nymph
i get that for fps's input sucks
golden gust
Until you gotta get a new console coz ur 2 last-gen
I think that with PC gaming, you gotta be in it for the long haul
slim nymph
its been 7 years lol
golden gust
e.g. be willing to go the route of upgrading hardware, etc, waiting for deals vs running on release
and yea, that hardware is 7 years old
in 7 years time, the cost of hardware to power is going to have dropped to the point where it looks kinda stupid
peak dirge
But needless to say, Jensen is very much sleeping well, knowing all of you are buying his latest GPUs at high prices.
golden gust
(assuming we haven't broke moores law yet...)
peak dirge
Pretty sure AMD probably wants to start raising prices with Zen 3 too, now that Dr. Su can sleep well at night knowing AMD has little debt and Ryzen and EPYC are a massive success.
golden gust
Soooo
How long until intel releases a chip that blows AMD into the water and they have no real retaliatory response?
peak dirge
Supposedly Alder Lake is the Intel chip to kill Zen
slim nymph
even buying old hardware your still gonna spend a 500 getting the whole caboodle of cpu gpu memory mobo, thats excluding cost of case psu OS storage if your bringing that as an upgrade. but even windows gets iffy on OS upgrades if you used OEM license. so if factoring in any more, even building a 7 year old system to equate to end of a generations hardware still close
peak dirge
The problem is, will it slaughter Zen 4 (that comes in 2021/2022) or will it just slaughter Zen 2 at best?
slim nymph
and by them, new revisions usually are already out too
unless you just buy someones old system out right for major discount
peak dirge
If Intel is going to be able to slaughter Zen 3/4, Alder Lake has a high bar to clear.
slim nymph
but comparing used part builds to a new console feels unfair
summary: i dont thin theres ever a point in a consoles generation that a 1 to 1 spec build is cheaper in a fair comparison
golden gust
Well, yea, but then you keep afordably upgrading, or, just sit there for a while until you gotta; Not like prices of parts don't drop somewhat drastically for new hardware as it gets thrown on a shelf further back
not to mention that you're also more in the region of paying for a walmart level gaming system in a sense; It's all thrown together on large lines for a loss
peak dirge
Perhaps the big-little design will help by assisting in offloading all those annoying background tasks to power-efficient integer crunchers, or it'll cause all sorts of wonderful bugs in that famously buggy, insecure OS produced in Redmond.
slim nymph
hey assocating with walmart isnt fair, walmart is crap quality shit lol
golden gust
;P
slim nymph
what sucks for me, is my wife is pc master race, so i still gotta pay that tax regardless
were looking at doing some PC upgrades so we can pass down her old parts to get a PC for my nephew
just trying to space out expenses
oh cmon MS dont fuck with me. the Series X store entry just got removed
peak dirge
From what I heard of Intel's first hybrid x86 big-little design, I honestly don't think Alder Lake is going get there. Scheduling on chips with different ISAs is always a dangerous game to play, whether you're the person making the CPU choice for the next Samsung phone or you're Intel desparate for a market that AMD hasn't yet grabbed.
slim nymph
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoles/xbox-series-x only lists all access which requires opening a new line of credit
golden gust
wonder how much arm is scaring them
peak dirge
Maybe Intel cleans up their act of artifical market segmentation by allowing Atom to support the more advanced features of the big cores.
mighty storm
omg guys, I got a genuine scam email, like the ones people go scambaiting with
peak dirge
Intel ruined any chance they had in mobile with very bad business decisions that made sense in 2006 but are completely foolish now.
They basically let ARM have free reign in mobile.
Then again, Intel could've gotten their chips in the Xbox 360 and in the iPhone but that bombed hard.
We know what happened next.
The Xbox 360 came with a PowerPC processor and sold well, and Apple eventually formed a world-class SoC design team allowing them to snub Intel this year once Intel's progress had slowed down massively.
And Apple is using ARM processors.
slim nymph
https://www.reddit.com/r/XboxSeriesX/comments/ix0e01/wow_a_live_look_at_phil_spencer_and_microsoft/ lmao
peak dirge
Though I would like to see an alternative universe in which Intel manages to put Atom into the iPhone or iPad.
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Wow, a live look at Phil Spencer and Microsoft after buying Bethesda.... : XboxSeriesX - 350 comments, 1,431 points - bryanswafford, 14h ago
peak dirge
Oh, and the Xbox One and PS4 CPU/GPU slots went to AMD, which helped prop them up. AMD was struggling, and I'm not sure they would've survived to see the release of Zen if not for their semi-custom business.
slim nymph
vestal jasper
I'd kill for another obsidian fallout
static pilot
mighty storm
anyone tried Records yet? are they useful?
slim nymph
game pass has added 5 million subs since april O.O
vestal jasper
rigby I had to read your message like 5 times before I got it lol
stiff yarrow
aikar: whats the bad news
slim nymph
@stiff yarrow ?
stiff yarrow
you said the xbox series x store entry got removed
slim nymph
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoles/xbox-series-x#purchase ok has a standalone section on the right now
stiff yarrow
if I miss this pre-order too I'm gonna be sad
slim nymph
apparently physical stores are getting 6-8 X's and 2 S's
and people are already camping outside
imagine trying to sleep and people cut you in line lol
mental crystal
Wait Microsoft now owns both the elder scrolls and mojang scrolls
mighty storm
and now they can change it back!
novel horizon
It's morning already :/
mighty storm
kotlin is...weird
slim nymph
"Bethesda confirmed in September 2020 that the franchise's MMO spin-off, Elder Scrolls Online, will remain active on PlayStation consoles despite the acquisition. Speaking to Bloomberg, Xbox head Phil Spencer promised that already PlayStation exclusives like Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo would remain timed-exclusive for PlayStation consoles. He further said that all future Bethesda releases will be natively available on Xbox, PC, and Game Pass. “We’ll take other consoles on a case-by-case basis,” Spencer said."
so every future bethesda game will be on game pass
novel horizon
That's nice
At least for people with game pass
Game pass is kinda nice though, I love it
Especially with the new games from EA, want to try them
mighty storm
Twitter
warm anchor
wait that has a twitter account now? lol
mighty storm
this is okay right
mighty storm
this better?
mighty storm
damn
potent fossil
metaphorical actuality
vestal jasper
public @Nullable getNode(final @NonNull nodes, final int nodeId) {
for (final Node requestedNode : nodes) {
if (requestedNode.getId() == nodeId) {
return requestedNode;
}
}
return null;
}```pls
static badge
map
vestal jasper
what you really want is
public Node getNode(List<Node> nodes,int nodeId){for(Node node:nodes)if(node.getId()==nodeId){return node;}return null;}```too many curly bois
cosmic raft
public class Permuter {
private static void permute(int n, char[] a) {
if (n == 0) {
System.out.println(String.valueOf(a)) ;}
else {
for (int i = 0; i <= n; i++) {
permute(n-1, a) ;
swap(a, n % 2 == 0 ? i : 0, n) ;}}}
private static void swap(char[] a, int i, int j) {
char saved = a[i] ;
a[i] = a[j] ;
a[j] = saved ;}}
public Node getNode(List<Node> nodes,int nodeId){for(Node node:nodes)if(node.getId()==nodeId)return node;return null;}
is al you need
cosmic raft
yes
vestal jasper
no braces = single expression
cosmic raft
yea
vestal jasper
sorry I use braces like a sane person I know little of the specifics on omitting them :^)
mighty storm
there ya go
cosmic raft
I don't use braces for simple things like:
final Thing thing = this.getThing();
if(thing == null) return;
thing.doSomething();
thing.doAnotherThing();
i love hitting "Convert java to kotlin" and see how unbelievably fucked up the code gets
robust stag
Its the first day of school, and i think i might quit
mighty storm
what grade
also why are you starting so late jfc
everyone here started a month ago
sly ruin
lol late September
void void
so i was running my paper server
off my raspberry pi 4 (8gb)
i just got a lenovo tiny which has an i5 6500T in it
do you think that's an upgrade?
did i done fuckup here
golden gust
The pi is basically trash tier hardware considering
void void
thanks
makes me feel better
honestly paper ran freakin great on the pi
atleast for 2-3 people
very curious how much improvement i can get off the 6500T
golden gust
it's a nifty little device, especially for screwing with, and the price of it
void void
yeahhh
i needed another one and calculated the all in price
and realized it was gonna be about 130 so stated looking at other options in similar price point
golden gust
130? o.O
vestal jasper
lol I hear faint angry cat meows in the distance
void void
i got that lenovo for $150 no taxes or shipping
golden gust
Well, if you're tryna deck it out...
void void
yahh i mean i gotta OC it
sly ruin
How'd you get it so cheap?
golden gust
I have a 3b which is flapping in the breeze
void void
came with 256gb ssd too
golden gust
Well, it's attached to the back of a plastic fantastic case for a screen
golden gust
Not much really
golden gust
I had cash, I wanted it
golden gust
I did wanna use it as sorta like a desk UI type thing
void void
you mean like actually use it as a desktop?
slim nymph
damn that bias
golden gust
No, like a small monitoring screen, etc
golden gust
e-ink displays are interesting, but, their limitations are somewhat eh bar minimal UIs
void void
ahhh never really looked into them
merry talon
lol @ gamestop having a PC gaming section
void void
apparently this lenovo has a hidden m.2 slot
that does nvme
kinda stoked on that
oh yeah wanted to ask you guys.. so i got debian installed
going to run the paper server off it
which java should i get?
i've forgotten what i installed on the pi
Paper requires Java 8 or newer to run. It should run fine on newer versions as well, such as Java 11, but certain plugins may have issues. Generally, LTS versions of Java are best supported, though you may have luck on newer versions.
potent fossil
you guys: lol @ game stop having pc
me: lol @ gamestop
sly ruin
I'm confused. Did you just answer your own question?
potent fossil
that was my question
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history -- Java version history - Wikipedia: "Regarding to Oracle Java distribution, version 11 is the currently supported long-term support (LTS) version (and Java 8 LTS to some degree)...."
potent fossil
11
void void
open JDK is fine?
mental meadow
It has nicer Nullpointerexceptions
void void
=p
mental meadow
wat
potent fossil
yay functional languages
cosmic raft
let (_,(a:_)) = (10,"abc") in a
'a' :: Char
minor badge
kash plox
potent fossil
kashike, is the devil's lettuce legal in the magical land of canada?
cosmic raft
huh?
potent fossil
is marijuana legal in canada
cosmic raft
yes
mental meadow
The EU wants to outlaw CBD
mental meadow
For some weird reason
potent fossil
why lol
mental meadow
Because drugs evil (but alcohol and tobacco doesn't count apparently)
slim nymph
why would the EU dosuch a dumb thing, specially since you know CBD isnt even a get you high drug
mental meadow
Exactly
potent fossil
however i do love me some thc
mental meadow
I'd like to present Hebert to you from my pharmacy
potent fossil
alert
austrian pharmacies grow weed inside
and name the plants
moving to austria
mental meadow
Iirc you can get weed grown here if you promise to only use it for decoration
golden gust
The UK gov is basically heavily against legalizing weed, and even getting a permit to use cannabis derived products is a hassle where it's basically almost a last line of resort
zealous wedge
ah yes "decoration"
golden gust
We've also iirc one of the biggest exporters of medicinal
zealous wedge
here you can grow up to 4 plants at home
golden gust
minor badge
here you are given a 5yr sentence or smth for growing 1 (one) cannabis plant
warm anchor
10 year for 2 plants?
potent fossil
meanwhile in california you can pay $100 and get a "grower's license" for up to 50 plants just by meeting with the doctor and saying your shoulder hurts so bad and you need them...
mental meadow
The UK gov is basically heavily against legalizing weed, and even getting a permit to use cannabis derived products is a hassle where it's basically almost a last line of resort
We have vending machines for derived products
potent fossil
So weed is legal in cali for recreation, but you can get the state tax removed with a medicinal card (renewal yearly)
basically to get a medicinal card, you get this app called 420Recs (lol) and then sign up, submit meeting request, it connects a video chat, doc goes "hi, how are you, why do you think marijuana will help your pain?" and you say "my shoulder hurts so bad and my friend let me try it once and it helped" and the doctor goes "im convinced. here is your prescription."
finite wave
potent fossil
oh yeah, i mean, it's even easier to get it. that's just the licensure process
here, you get an app called weedmaps, look up a delivery service menu, text them your order and get your cash, they pull up in a car a la food delivery, you walk out, hand them the cash and you get a nice sealed (cuz COVID) white bag with a fortune cookie and weed inside
it's unreal
twin lagoon
wooo
potent fossil
sharp sentinel
In Australia (Queensland) medicinal marijuana is allowed but highly regulated, recreational is banned
I've been suggested it but in order to have a prescription granted I'd need to give up my drivers license
Which is IMO a bit yikes
vernal moth
I think that's how this regulation works everywhere tho
At least from what I have heard
Imagine having to give up your drivers license for drinking beer
Because that's far more nessasary than for weed
sharp sentinel
Especially seeing as medicinal doses are either non-psychoactive or low enough to not be an issue in general
heady spear
If u do drugs in Sweden ur tied to a raft and pushed off into the Atlantic
Unless it’s cocaine and ur the king, then no one cares
vernal moth
Is that why alcohol is so Damm expensive?
zealous wedge
see in canada you only have to be mayor to do cocaine
vernal moth
I haven't had a joint in years
next frost
just drink nausea potion in mc
zealous wedge
@minor badge uwu
minor badge
uwu
twin lagoon
uwu
zealous wedge
michael :3
twin lagoon
;w;
heady spear
everyone uwus but no one ever owos
twin lagoon
because owos are disgusting
sharp sentinel
i’ll owo for you city 😓
heady spear
Thx Matt 😍
twin lagoon
@quasi valley 🐌
mental meadow
uwo city
zealous wedge
@heady spear owo
heady spear
owo
zealous wedge
also good morning owora
heady spear
ye good morning uhruhra
I think my student financing is finally getting approved so I can get a non-broken bed lmao. I wanna go to IKEA D:
mental meadow
yall need to add it to my doc every time you write my name differently smh
also uwu zowo
heady spear
to look at the blahhaiiiichs
mossy vessel
kek
mental meadow
whats the difference between blåhaj and blohaj city
heady spear
blohaj means nothing at all 😛
twin lagoon
uwura
mental meadow
yeah but like pronounciation
mental meadow
thats why i'm asking i dont get the difference in å and o
heady spear
o is o in bro or uh the last o in potato
mental meadow
but that doesnt sound different than the å in blåhaj
heady spear
yes it då, the å in blåhaj is like the o in aurora
void void
hey guys its off topic but does anyone knows ghow cna i set commands to signs with essentials
heady spear
ok Å is like AU in Paul
novel horizon
Hey, I ordered a taco in #delicious-tacos , but I didn't get any 😦
Any support for this?
heady spear
No we're learning languages now
void void
hey guys its off topic but does anyone knows ghow cna i set commands to signs with essentials
hey guys its off topic but does anyone knows ghow cna i set commands to signs with essentials
mossy vessel
Can we not spam thanks
heady spear
uhruhra ban him!
void void
ok sorry
humble falcon
he typed a message thrice that’s illegal!
sharp sentinel
3 times
twin lagoon
no problemboem
heady spear
thrice
humble falcon
what was 3 versiom of twice i forgot
heady spear
not twice
twin lagoon
i thauthgnthth it too
humble falcon
Nvm
void void
i thauthgnthth it too
@twin lagoon :D
mental meadow
miiiiichael uwu
twin lagoon
uwu
humble falcon
Also just google your questiom fantom lmao
mental meadow
thx city for your contribution owo ❤️
humble falcon
I’m sensing intense weeb energy here
heady spear
we're all furries
mossy vessel
unfortunately
humble falcon
It all makes sense now
mental meadow
humble falcon
wow you watch senzawa as well
heady spear
and yes i do watch senzawa, she's my queen :3
humble falcon
city is a weeb who listens daily to senzawa confirmed?
mental meadow
and what am i city
humble falcon
rawr
mental meadow
uwuwuwuwuuwuwuwuuwuuwgnuuwuwwhnguhguwghuwhguwhugzrhbnwerughuwerhng
mossy vessel
don't
heady spear
shut up
mental meadow
mods 
heady spear
I don't believe in the concept of moderators
y'all can't stop me from doing what I want 😠
mental meadow
pretty in pink > moderators
wide chasm
I mean, it's true
woven otter
@heady spear stop
worn ember
@heady spear stop
minor badge
hold on to that feeling~
worn ember
But do stop breathing :)
worn ember
Lmao
vestal jasper
ez bois free IDEA upgrade incoming 
ashen cliff
Even more unused features.
woven otter
STAB
worn ember
ashen cliff
You better stab it 9 times.
vestal jasper
but now I can do web dev on my java editor
woven otter
Its a reference to DFU
worn ember
Duck Family Unity?
woven otter
DataFixerUpper or whatever it's called
zealous wedge
DFU, the best library
vestal jasper
Duck Force Uno
zealous wedge
the One True Config Library
vestal jasper
zml PR configurate support to carbon
worn ember
Dum Fukin User
zealous wedge
no u
worn ember
True
vestal jasper
90% of the remaining work on the refactor is rewriting everything configuration related and adding configurate
woven otter
zml configurate 4 when
mental meadow
We have a word for that ded, it's a DAU
zealous wedge
soon™️ duck
woven otter
Not soon enough
worn ember
By the time I get it working 5.0 will be out
zealous wedge
i hope to go a few years before 5.0 lol
worn ember
Well I got some time then
woven otter
Just add yml comments idc about anything else tbh
mental meadow
DAU is really a double punch because on the one hand it means "dumbest user you could think of" and on the other hand it comes from GAU which is the word we use for nuclear emergencies
worn ember
GAU due to DAU
mental meadow
exactly
vestal jasper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFvqf8Z13PU @minor badge
zealous wedge
here we talk about OTS errors
woven otter
:C
vestal jasper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rB1eltkOhM mission impossibirb
mental meadow
smart birb
potent fossil
long birb
i forgot literally everyone gets their own birb, so here's my birb https://owo.whats-th.is/AR85GxS.png
twin lagoon
borb
potent fossil
björb
zealous wedge
birbling
mental meadow
birbbsbs
ashen cliff
ThisCatDoesNotExist, but for MC. 
void void
blirb
tired heath
GAU which is the word we use for nuclear emergencies
That's actually incorrect, is a short term for "biggest assumable accident" and can be used in any project or szenario, not only nuclear stuff.
mental meadow
yeah but it's generally only used for that
tired heath
is it
Everyday I drink a lot of diet energy drinks, I use that word in an none nuclear meaning
just saying
mental meadow
The broad usage is mostly for nuclear meltdowns
Most other accidents just aren't as bad
tired heath
You wanna say that a lot of diet drinks are not as bad as a Meltdown
I'm not sure about that
void void
wat
tired heath
At the moment I'm going to drink my 4ht can today and it might result in a GAU in like 30 minuetes or so
tired heath
^^
At least neither Jroy nor Simple are on, would insta complain how ofunny is more like nofunny 😄
But I live with my bad jokes
mental meadow
There, fixed it for you
mental meadow
To avoid confusion
It would be awful if someone confuses you with someone actually funny :p
tired heath
Rule 3 confirmed again "Mistrust authority …"
I'm actually funny
I swear
is super funny
If I think about it, you should rename me to super funny
I deserve that
tired heath
Okay a more serios question, would you buy massivly overpriced Mario 3D Allstars, even if you may not find enough time to play it
quasi valley
only if I were a hardcore mario fan driven by nostalgia
tired heath
I did skip Game Cube and Wii, so I look at Shunshine and Galaxy
but still expensive for some old games
Also a new Zelda next month, did not even finish first one
wide chasm
Maybe I'll get it in the future, but currently there are other better games I've yet to play.
wide chasm
Well, it won't be sold after March 31, 2021, so doubt it, unless Nintendo does a 180.
tired heath
Still waiting for promised Metroid
Actually the only reasons for me to buy Nintendo at all: Mario, Metroid, Zelda
wide chasm
I buy Switch because it's (also) a handheld, don't play games on TV or PC.
tired heath
Do be honest, I just used the handheld function when I was in military for 2 months
^^
Than never again
Just to lazy to take it with me
wide chasm
I play in handheld on the couch, don't take it with me either.
tired heath
Do you play Zelda? When I play it, it has some kind of whit overlay. May should be some kind of effect. It annoys me on TV but it sucks on handheld
Just wondering if I can lower it
wide chasm
I've played BotW, never really noticed that in handheld mode.
tired heath
hmm mmaybe some settings
void void
tired heath
Does that look like normal BotW for you, for me is like over overexposed or something
But maybe it should be like that
wide chasm
The image looks a bit blurry, but other than that seems about right.
tired heath
Well I don't know, is how the console delivers it handheld, really looks not very sharp
funny
limber knotBOT
btw. are you guys happy as well that TikTok is going to die? seeing as Oracle got it that seems like the only logical consequence xD
wide chasm
I don't care about TikTok whatsoever
tired heath
same
limber knotBOT
I just hate platforms putting watermarks on stolen content just to advertise their platform all over the internet :S
void void
i'd be happy to see tiktok die
cancerous place spreading dumb people and their even more dumb trends
zealous wedge
tiktok is fun, it'd be a shame to lose it
left swift
cancerous place spreading dumb people and their even more dumb trends
I think to fix the problem we gotta go to the source. The people
sly fog
I think to fix the problem we gotta go to the source. The people
No worries, the people were on track to solve the root of the problem since a while back, with global warming
left swift
If the globe is warming why dont we just open a window
tired heath
Just want to say, that I just saw some stats about penis sizes and except of two african countries, Austr(al)ia is on place 3, even before DE, GB and US
I mean not that it would matter but 😄
Better than talking about TikTok
left swift
I dont get it
void void
I think to fix the problem we gotta go to the source. The people
covid-19 is on it already
latent valve
dim shadow
aight boys say you wanted to bring mining back on your server... what else would you do besides these things?
- disable iron/gold farms (kills iron and gold mining)
- nerf villager trades (kills diamond mining)
- disable enderman exp farms (kills mining exp & regular mob exp farms)
limber knotBOT
just add new stuff which you can only get by mining
e.g. enchantment which can get high-quality versions of existing ores which can produce better tools/armor
left swift
Imo nerfing iron/gold farms and villagers will always bring higher QoL for a survival server that shit is broken
novel horizon
There's so many things/farms/mechanics that are broken :/
minor badge
you can make iron farms drop less and only iron nuggets
next frost
proxi is bullying me :/
dim shadow
just add new stuff which you can only get by mining
@phoenix616#0000 well i have iron/gold ores set up at a bank vault so there's still somewhat of a reason to get those... but then there's no reason to buy them back so it's just constant inflation
Imo nerfing iron/gold farms and villagers will always bring higher QoL for a survival server that shit is broken
@left swift yeah i hate all the broken stuff... :/
i get the feeling once i disable those three things players will come up with some other distorted mechanic to exploit
limber knotBOT
if you have inflation then you just need money-sinks for your rich players
e.g. leveling clans or pets with money, or buying expensive map-paintings xD
dim shadow
the sink was supposed to be the buyback of ores xD
e.g. leveling clans or pets with money, or buying expensive map-paintings xD
@phoenix616#0000 i like the map idea... hmmm i could look into that, i already have /tomap for donors
limber knotBOT
then I doubt that would sell if donors can just create unlimited ones, lol
dim shadow
yeah i'd have to take it off donors... i'm still in time to do that since nobody has donated since i added that xD
so it ain't like i'm taking away something they paid for
limber knotBOT
I mean, do they pay or do they donate? :P
dim shadow
right now it's a feature for the top tier donor rank, i'm thinking just make it per-map cost in game currency
oh look how convenient... the map plugin i use is open source
limber knotBOT
shit like this is why I don't give donators special rights btw, lol
can't add new features without having to think about people who paid money xD
dim shadow
^ yes LOL I've been in that spot :/
but then nobody would donate... i'm competing with servers that give so much op stuff to donors
limber knotBOT
well for me running a server is a hoppy and people donate enough to pay the server bills so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
zealous knot
Imagine competing with servers
limber knotBOT
*hobby xD
dim shadow
yeah mine used to be like that back in the day, at one point i had $200+ surplus
idk why people dont donate anymore... i guess those who wanted the ranks already got em
slim nymph
this is why subscriptions are so much better
sustainable income
design your ranks so you only keep the perks if you keep paying
dim shadow
omg lol i tried to do that and got riots
even though existing ranks would've remained
slim nymph
then maybe your ranks were either badly priced or badly perked
and also just ignore it, of course people would prefer paying once vs monthly
zealous knot
^ if you only care about keeping the server up, make donations a monthly subscription, and cap the amount of money people can donate to the cost of the server, when the months end, subscriptions run out, people renew them, and maybe even new people subscribe
slim nymph
why cap it?
minor badge
we made build-a-rank; works very well
slim nymph
theres nothing wrong with making extra
dim shadow
we made build-a-rank; works very well
@minor badge now thats not a bad idea 😮
minor badge
fix, 1 month can pay for 2 :p
slim nymph
not having an intent to make profit doesnt mean you should do extra effort to inhibit profit
dim shadow
I said if you only care about keeping the server up
@zealous knot that's how i feel about it, i've never pocketed donor money even when i could afford to
slim nymph
plus, profit can still go into stuff for server
zealous knot
I for one dont care about the shitty minecraft server i have to have to pay taxes for it
left swift
My system is 5$ a month and with almost no perks outside of a rank and home/spawn cooldown bypass
novel horizon
Yeah, I have some sort of perks for money, monthly, I don't know how people think that a one time donation is enough, lol
slim nymph
i have 5/10/20$/mo subs, guess which one is the LEAST popular?
novel horizon
they put there 2€ for a "VIP" that is permanent, gives fly, god, etc.. man
left swift
5
slim nymph
yep lol
novel horizon
Of course, people want more perks, so just pay a little bit more and get better things, that's the thing in most cases
left swift
I think most of the people who are still subscribed dont care enough to cancel cause most are inactive but still are subscribed lol
zealous knot
Or they want to support you ._.
slim nymph
yeah, i have a few like that. paypal emails them every month so not like they dont know lol
dim shadow
Or they want to support you ._.
@zealous knot i've had a couple players who donated a shit ton of money, more than the ranks were worth, so those people exist but are far in between
slim nymph
and yeah had some very uh wealthy players in the past too
dim shadow
im gonna have to revamp my funding system soon lol, this is digging into my drug money
slim nymph
one of these days ima get my virtual currency back up for sale since thats back allowed again
thats a good money maker
dim shadow
one of these days ima get my virtual currency back up for sale since thats back allowed again
@slim nymph wait wot
allowed again...?
slim nymph
only for non competitive servers
dim shadow
oh lol damn
mine's pvp survival ;-;
i mean i didnt care, i broke the eula for years but then decided to go strictly no-p2w
slim nymph
yeah mines all PvE play together stuff 😛
zealous knot
Aikar’s server is uwu
slim nymph
well, its semi PvP in the sense that I try to design custom mobs to kill the players lol
dim shadow
nice xD
slim nymph
im proud of some of the mob AI ive built
Eyender is real fun, every so often he ender warps you to a random location, 4 ender signals spawn from 4 directions all homing to you, and if they reach you they blow up. so you end up disoriented and have to rush to shoot the signals before they reach you and get back to the boss and the guardians
and theres a secret to do more damage to him too
minor badge
i played on it w a friend before, couldnt figure it out but had fun lol
cunning raft
yo aikar can you merge my paperlib pr and bump version 
slim nymph
twin lagoon
pffft and it isn't even minimessage
slim nymph
its nano
zealous knot
Imagine using nano
slim nymph
im on a terminal lol
heady spear
MiniMessage >:(((((
left swift
U seem like the type of dude to like being punished and use vi
heady spear
Y r u not using vim
slim nymph
why would you need vim to simply view a file
zealous knot
Nah im just kidding i dont use anything besides nano
heady spear
Because it’s easier to navigate, clearly
limber knotBOT
using nano to view a file and not less smh
heady spear
Mister u should use ed
mental meadow
People that use vim are kinky
heady spear
Ed > anything else
golden gust
Well, aurora 😉
heady spear
Vim orgy when
mental meadow
They apparently like pain and suffering
slim nymph
[ TYRIAL ] ✔ [ 09:54 AM ] -- [ aikar ] -- [ master ] -- [ ~/ssd-projects/emc/EMC-Plugins ]
wnano PlayerSettingKey
[ TYRIAL ] ✔ [ 10:02 AM ] -- [ aikar ] -- [ master ] -- [ ~/ssd-projects/emc/EMC-Plugins ]less
wfind PlayerSettingKey
mental meadow
After the I-S one city
slim nymph
nano command is a bit easier 😛
golden gust
You know
slim nymph
less doesnt have hilighting
golden gust
and people look up to this guy
zealous knot
Hm whats minimessage again
zealous knot
Got it
slim nymph
but, i actually do know how to close vim, so that's god tier right
zealous knot
People who use vim have a daddy dom fetish
heady spear
Knowing how to press your computers power switch isn’t that impressive
dim shadow
notepad++ #represent
slim nymph
i cant even run notepad++ lol
golden gust
Go to your room fix
vernal moth
Broken
@heady spear 😭
heady spear
That’s quite accurate fixxy, that’s why proxi and I love it
slim nymph
nor does it run over a terminal
heady spear
Mini I’m angry at you
slim nymph
oh man could you imagine X11 Forwarding to my personal PC to forward a WINE app
heady spear
Command click thingy breaks if the command contains > and everything becomes sad
dim shadow
oh yeah if im on a terminal i use nano... everything else too trippy for me xD
vestal jasper
IMAGINE not using ED as your primary editor. fucking casuals.
vestal jasper
fuck you
heady spear
Also QED > ED
zealous knot
No fuck you vic
heady spear
Because it’s older
slim nymph
man i hope i get the damn xbox today
mental meadow
Why does my editor have an eating disorder
slim nymph
ive never got consoles on launch day before, i want one this time damn it
heady spear
ED is way worse than an eating disorder
vestal jasper
genuinely though fuck ED it deserves to be nuked from existence @heady spear I have a machine and its only editor is ED and I want to toss it out a window every time I use it
humble falcon
That’s your editor’s problem not ours smh my head 😤 (/s)
heady spear
I’ll take anorexia over ed any day of the week
golden gust
vernal moth
@heady spear open issue?
golden gust
I mean, somebody clearly had too much time on their hands, but, still
vestal jasper
ED is an abomination and its creator deserves the worst punishment imaginable.
zealous knot
Listening to City talk to himself in VC Indefinitely
slim nymph
is city drunk as usual
heady spear
Hey I have a pretty voice
vestal jasper
yes
zealous knot
I would rather kill myself
vestal jasper
mini message when
mental meadow
City has a pretty voice and yesterday he wasn't drunk at all
zealous knot
City reminds me of my dad because he also talks to himself quite audibly when hes drunk
mental meadow
I on the other hand are at the pool and they have a pool bar in the water with pina colada and might had one
heady spear
Well I'm the only one with anything reasonable to say in VC
so it makes sense that I speak and no one else does
zealous knot
“Why doesn’t this work” x18 is not reasonable
zealous knot
City is a dump ass
humble falcon
dump ass
mental meadow
Please say you meant to type dumb
humble falcon
how does formatting work on mobile jeez
zealous knot
heady spear
ur free to dump in my ass
but only u fixxy, no one else
my ass is quite selective :3
zealous knot
mossy vessel
zealous knot
heady spear
but I won't let you touch me until we get married
mental meadow
"I'm quite prude in real life"
@heady spear, 21.09.2020
heady spear
because ass play before marriage is a sin
golden gust
actually
heady spear
Yes?
golden gust
heady spear
I love them
sports go* sports
actually tho let's be real I wouldn't let mister_fix touch me anyway out of principle
left swift
Yeah dont let your standards fall that low
zealous knot
Bitch you’ll have to simp me the way pokimane fans simp her to even stand next to me
mental meadow
Pokimane is so cute im jealous
mighty storm
uh oh
left swift
mighty storm
She looks so normal though , I don't get it
zealous wedge
@mental meadow what do u have against vim
mental meadow
I don't understand it that's why I don't like it zml :c
zealous wedge
vim tutor yourself :(
mental meadow
She looks so normal though , I don't get it
@mighty storm yes that's the goal
Zml will you teach me 🥺
mental meadow
Oh no chew
stiff yarrow
You ready for this shit aikar?
left swift
🍿
stiff yarrow
prepares pre order fingers
heady spear
^same
zealous wedge
Also I think my config is p outdated
heady spear
there are like 9000 features idk how to use
mighty storm
Rory :3
heady spear
but it does enough for me to be productive
zealous wedge
since I went like 3 years without needing much text editing
stiff yarrow
@mental meadow vim is all about the keyboard shortcuts, learn them and force yourself to do something simple like config editing to get used to it
over ssh its a god send
heady spear
it's all about the pl0gins 😛
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://neovim.io/ -- Neovim: Home: "Usable · Strong defaults · Works the same everywhere: one build-type, one command · Modern terminal features such as cursor styling, focus events,..."
heady spear
yes, nvim best vim
stiff yarrow
don't you dare say nano
mighty storm
Catting the file, then echoing the changes back into the file
zealous wedge
you could say emacs, join mikroskeem gang
mighty storm
nani is good for slight modifications or smth idk
stiff yarrow
prepare your preorders boys
mighty storm
Why tf did it autocorrect to weeb speech
heady spear
we had a lecture in vim in CS 101
that was pretty neat
about vim?
idk english
hard language
stiff yarrow
I literally set an alarm just to wake up in time for this pre order
mighty storm
I do not need VIM, I have IntelliJ ultimate
stiff yarrow
VIM is not an ide
mighty storm
Exactly
heady spear
it can be 👀
mighty storm
Outside of running programs? Never
mighty storm
Most of my commands start with cd or pm2
stiff yarrow
well thats probably why you don't like vim
mighty storm
I don't dislike vim wtf
stiff yarrow
oh am I confusing you
mighty storm
I just don't need any text editors
heady spear
chew doesn't like anything that we like
mighty storm
Aurora I think
heady spear
she is like an angry toddler smh
heady spear
what if
mighty storm
Rory is unhateable
stiff yarrow
anyways we have all gathered here today
stiff yarrow
to pre order this blasphemic router
mighty storm
heady spear
imagine contributing to it
zealous wedge
yeah imagine city
heady spear
I am not included in whatever server it is you send rory pictures in
so I am just sad
zealous wedge
sad
mighty storm
Same
stiff yarrow
.g rory cat
limber knotBOT
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heady spear
Am eating over cooked rice n i don't like it
stiff yarrow
I should go make some genmaicha thanks for the reminder city
heady spear
but I've basically forgotten to eat since yesterday at lunch and am starving
sly ruin
What kind of rice?
stiff yarrow
we call that IF in the keto community
mighty storm
The url is in my status
stiff yarrow
TIL theres a cat TLD
any of you guys watch kittisaurus, I watch that channel almost every day
mighty storm
There's also .dog I believe
heady spear
Anyway so
heady spear
is tax exemption an lgbt right?
stiff yarrow
if it was I wouldn't be paying out my ass
mighty storm
I mean....
stiff yarrow
heady spear
bummer
stiff yarrow
Kittisaurus is basically a south korean woman with 9 cats, 4+ cameras and good video editing skills + memes
heady spear
I only watch the news
stiff yarrow
Oh she's at 10 cats now
She had 7 for a while
I have 2 cats and I couldn't imagine having more without a much bigger space
all I wanna know is WHERE do I preorder once 8AM happens
wait I could have lined up outside of gamestop and got one? fuck
that would have been so easy
stiff yarrow
check /r/xboxseriesx
looks like it was really that easy
showup 3 hours early and no ones in line
cunning raft
you can't preorder online?
stiff yarrow
cunning raft
is that a yes or no
stiff yarrow
alright someone else join this conversation so I can stay sane
cunning raft
this too
stiff yarrow
good luck getting it online tbh, I'm gonna try
cunning raft
i doubt they allocate anything to gamestop at a priority too
stiff yarrow
but good luck
cunning raft
idk how much MS prepared ahead of time
quasi valley
just pick something that isn’t Amazon
stiff yarrow
scalper bots swoop in on any new hardware and place all the orders
cunning raft
but PS5 is a mess
cunning raft
you shouldn't preorder anything
quasi valley
there’s a lot of online retailers, one of them will give you one
cunning raft
wait for reviews
mighty storm
I always post order
quasi valley
I always post apocalypse
cunning raft
i guess with consoles its a little better to preorder because there's only one of each brand
stiff yarrow
kenny I wish I had your optimism but after what happened with ps5 lol
where all the retailors instantly sold out
wide chasm
I'd still wait for reviews even for consoles
slim nymph
stiff yarrow
review: yep its a new xbox
cunning raft
i mean if you're hard xbox or hard ps you're gonna get the latest no matter what
quasi valley
tbf I don’t know how it is outside of Ger, I just know one of the biggest (but one that doesn’t spam ads everywhere or has shops at every rail station) where I can get pretty much anything that’s already sold out on Amazon et all regarding tech
slim nymph
im hoping ms store has most stock
cunning raft
prob does
wide chasm
True, although if you don't care for Xbox or PS specifically, might as well wait and then check the reviews to see which one's better.
slim nymph
i got payment on file for top 3, walmart/target is fallbacks
cunning raft
they'd prob allocate most their stock to themselves lol
stiff yarrow
wow the entire GS website is a queue for xbox right now
mighty storm
Whats so special about the new RTX
peak dirge
kneny needs to buy me rdna 2
void void
MONKE
cunning raft
Whats so special about the new RTX
biggest generational leap + usable ray tracing
merry talon
its just absurdly performant
cunning raft
LTT did a good vid
cunning raft
not quite the 2x
stiff yarrow
who cares about RTX when you can have xbone
peak dirge
and also absurdly guzzling power kek
cunning raft
but still obv better
peak dirge
I have zero use for RTX.
twin lagoon
i have zero use for rtx either
cunning raft
i use the rtx cores for ML
quasi valley
@twin lagoon https://www.alternate.de/html/product/1672251 👀
wide chasm
I'm still annoyed that they turned ray tracing into a buzzword, it's nice to have hardware support for it, but still, it's just ray tracing.
stiff yarrow
aikar: which amazon url
quasi valley
oh wait
twin lagoon
i already bought an rtx 3080
peak dirge
RTX is useless unless (1) you do ML shit (I don't) (2) you play games with it (I don't) and (3) you want to look cool
dry elk
hi whats the best version for paper spigot?
twin lagoon
1.16.3
peak dirge
1.16.3
quasi valley
1.16.3
twin lagoon
it's Paper, not paperspigot
mighty storm
Wtf is paper spigot
limber knotBOT
@cobalt tartan [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
twin lagoon
shut the fuck up korobi
sly ruin
How is RTX useful for ML? Wouldn't a quadro be better since you're not paying for the NN stuff in the RTX?
cunning raft
for price no
peak dirge
we need to teach Korobi a few new tricks
dry elk
why is most recent the best?
cunning raft
quadro is 1000s of dollars
twin lagoon
because it's up to date
cunning raft
RT cores can be used for ML on the cheap
zealous knot
I heard the new xbox has an rtx 3080 titan in it
twin lagoon
other versions are unsupported
mighty storm
Because it's most up to date and actually supported
dry elk
are plugins up to it yet?
twin lagoon
yes
mighty storm
Mostly
cunning raft
the good ones are
mighty storm
If they aren't they're bad plugins lol
stiff yarrow
I'm still annoyed that they turned ray tracing into a buzzword, it's nice to have hardware support for it, but still, it's just ray tracing.
@wide chasm its not true "ray tracing" yet, its tech using ray tracing to be much better, but there exists ray tracing rendering for photo realistic effects and we are a long ways away from that being doable on a PC at a reasonable frame rate, there's some implementations but they use a lot of noise while the frame is being rendered
peak dirge
I think I can live with an RX 580 for a tad bit longer.
zealous knot
Trace these rays: 🖕😐🖕
mighty storm
I have whatever my computer came with
cunning raft
amd 
👉🏼 🔥
novel horizon
RTX doesn't look even.. good.. like for images, maybe, lol
I am more excited to see amd gpus ^^ won't be that powerful, but still
stiff yarrow
PRE ORDER BUTTON ON XBOX IS LIVE
wide chasm
There are definitely comparisons I've seen with ray tracing on and off, where I wasn't certain which one was with ray tracing on and whether that one actually looked better
novel horizon
Yeah
wide chasm
Yeah, the leap is good
cunning raft
actually playable so I may actually used them now lol
novel horizon
Yeah, better, but still, if you got a good price for 2000 series, youre fine ^^
wide chasm
~180% compared to 2080 or something
novel horizon
what uses even rtx it's so few things :/
cunning raft
yeah sounds abt right
peak dirge
the leap isn't 2x though like NVIDIA claimed, they cherry-picked the worst case for Turing and best-case Ampere
cunning raft
@novel horizon games+ML
novel horizon
Yeah it's 2x in MC RTX and Quake RTX, but still
wide chasm
What a surprise
novel horizon
Yeah, lol
cunning raft
just scale ur website bro
mighty storm
That's just the power of azurre baybe
peak dirge
2x in RTX titles. I can't doubt that, but for normal plebian games that don't have RTX, maybe performance improves 30-40% at best.
mighty storm
Okay sleeep time wake me up In 4 hours
novel horizon
Yeah
stiff yarrow
ree all the websites are broke
cunning raft
nvidia really cutting into their margins this cycle
novel horizon
There's definitely some improvement, of course, but still.. Got a good price for 2080? Enough for anything ^^
cunning raft
tru
novel horizon
and RTX still doesn't look appealing at all, at least for me
cunning raft
not for everyone
novel horizon
I know like 4 games from my head that works and it's so limited
cunning raft
like tux said, if you play the games that have it or if you do ML shit it's good to have
peak dirge
Basically, Ampere is great if you have a shitton of money to spend on upgrading to 4K and desparately want RTX (or do ML, NVIDIA is king here), otherwise it's a waste of money IMO
novel horizon
Quake RTX, MC RTX, which is only on Win 10 edition and before was only for some worlds and then Tomb Raider and Metro Exodus I think 🤔
fierce finch
fortnite rtx on
novel horizon
And when I see RTX on, in most cases I don't even know what to look for
I need sometimes comparison between and even them
cunning raft
it's def just personal preference
novel horizon
It's like -much shadows
yeah sure
Of course it's nice to see that
I was trying that once and I was confused if I even have it on, it was in Tomb Raider
stiff yarrow
GS website reverted to a splash screen
novel horizon
and I was doing that without and then after some time i spotted that there's some shadows like they are softer and such
stiff yarrow
aikar are you having any luck
twin lagoon
a rough time for any tech retailer out there
ps5, xbox, rtx 3080, rtx 3090
rdna2 & 4th gen ryzen soon
cunning raft
stiff yarrow
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
cunning raft
novel horizon
SPAM F5 FAST
novel horizon
Yeah ofc ^^
novel horizon
It will refresh itself to get some info, people will refresh it too etc
cunning raft
y e s
stiff yarrow
yo I think I got one
minor badge
woa
twin lagoon
170 dollars for a controller wtf
stiff yarrow
website is slow as balls tho
cunning raft
170 dollars for a controller wtf
elite controller