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next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

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ps plus is so bad though lol

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

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with PS Plus you gain some games monthly you can play, it will be "assigned" to your account and you can play them for free, right

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

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it just has a few bad games

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xbox gamepass has even brand new games

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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you gain just 2 games monthly or so and you need to pay or you can't play them

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Xbox Game Pass lets you play all the games from start

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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no, this gen you can play a selection of games from the jump

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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a selection

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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yes, a selection

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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What selection.. well, anyway, Xbox had it already

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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keyword being selection, meaning that its going to be like 5 games

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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just as xbox game pass is

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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I find that cool

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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it’s a selection

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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xbox game pass is way better than ps whatever

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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well.. selection in xbox game pass is like 150 games or so

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idk the number

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also EA is adding their games there too

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Gears is amazing. Sea of Theives is really popular, Re-Core, Crackdown, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive (amazing game), Titanfall, Grounded for now (not sure if PS is on roadmap),

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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sea of thieves is really good

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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I want to try Titanfall for sure

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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https://www.gematsu.com/exclusives/xbox-one prob more big ones i dont recognize

Gematsu

Sal Romano

List of Xbox One Exclusives – Gematsu - Gematsu

The ultimate list of video games available exclusively on Xbox One.

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Grounded seemed meh for me

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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one of my favorite games

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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bah who cares what console you like more tbh, just buy the one you want or buy both its not worth arguing about

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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most of all these big games are on game pass too.

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day 1 release free play

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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yeah

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that's the thing

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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which ps wont have

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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i had crackdown predownloaded lol

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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these are just console exclusive games, i was talking actually exclusive to one platform

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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this is the internet @stiff yarrow if you don't share the community opinion you will be flamed until you conform

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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i still need to go finish that

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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is xbox is solid this gen I'm buying it, I don't force myself to have only 1 or the other

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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plus a ton of indie games too

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xbox's indie market is large

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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well, this is a discussion, I don't find it here somehow.. offensive or flaming or anything

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:35 AM

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yeah xbox has a better store imo

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:35 AM

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that was a joke

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:35 AM

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i don’t know i feel like the xbox game pass was the only good to come out of last gen

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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does xbox series x have pre-orders

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Whatever, I don't know about new consoles much, I didn't even knew PS had announcement or so

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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22nd

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I can’t name a single exclusive I’ve wanted to try on xbox

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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i personally dont prefer either, switch si the only console ill ever own probably

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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When it releases we'll see how it's going in terms of hardware too

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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@spiral zinc how do you know you wont like the game? trailers are so fake

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I don't have a compelling reason to get an xbox yet, but I'll get one just to see what the fuss is about

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I can’t name a single exclusive I’ve wanted to try on xbox
@spiral zinc because its not about the exclusives, its about everything in general. the actual console, the overall game selection, prices

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its not just exclusives

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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it’s just exclusives for me because that’s why i buy my consoles

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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but yeah exclusives are a minor element, that only matters if "I MUST PLAY THAT GAME"

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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if you want exclusives get a pc

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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@spiral zinc how do you know you wont like the game? trailers are so fake
@slim nymph the only games I was really hyped for were GOW and SM

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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SM?

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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whats sm?

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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the sequels that are re-releasing are built upon the same engine the previous games released on

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spider-man

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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oh lol

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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plus they showed actual gameplay footage and not cinematics

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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yeah thats one game i would like, but im perfectly fine not having it

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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oh i thought GOW = Gears of War but i assume you mean god of war

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:38 AM

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if you want exclusives get a pc
@next wind that’s the opposite of why i have a pc

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:38 AM

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you have a pc for non exclusivess?

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im confused

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pc has the largest amount of games

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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but for 35/mo gets you a series X (15 being game pass ultimate, so 20$/mo for console, at a total of 480$)

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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I only use my consoles to play games that are exclusive to that console

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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I'll just get both consoles, I'm doing almost exclusively couch gaming anyways

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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I count games that are terrible on consoles too, like ksp

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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like for example, HZD for PS4 or Forza for Xbox

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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are there any games only available on consoles and not pc (excluding nintendo)

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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I don’t play forza or gears of war or halo though

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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and if you care about gfx, xbox will have dolby vision, PS wont 😛

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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i haven’t had much to use my xbox for

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are there any games only available on consoles and not pc (excluding nintendo)
@mighty storm yes

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like, HZD for ps4 or Forza for Xbox

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Forza is Play Anywhere

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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well I guess not hzd anymore because it was released on PC but that version is kind of a bust

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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so it is PC through Win10 store

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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but there are plenty more games that are exclusive to pc and have no console games

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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well that only adds to my point that i didn’t really have a use for a xbox this gen

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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but thats a perk of the xbox ecosystem

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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but there are plenty more games that are exclusive to pc and have no console games
@next wind i’m aware

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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so if you want the maximum amount of games and the cheapest games get pc

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:41 AM

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but thats a perk of the xbox ecosystem
@slim nymph it’s one of its downfalls because if you can play on pc why would pc gamers buy it on xbox

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that’s where i stand on this convo

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if you can get it on PC and you’re a pc gamer there’s no point in getting it for console

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:41 AM

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how is that a downfall

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thats not a downfall

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:41 AM

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choice. play on PC, move to bedroom and finish playing from there

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:41 AM

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that’s a downfall for the xbox ecosystem

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:41 AM

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not a downfall

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a pro

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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no, its a super consumer friendly strategy

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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bad for microsoft if anything

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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??

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dude that’s what i’m saying

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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when you say downfall, thats read as downfall for consumer

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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and why tf would i care if microsoft doesnt make 60 dollars or something

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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no i meant downfall for xbox’s ecosystem

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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thats not a downfall though

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im confused af right now

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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plus also the fact you can now play xbox ecosystem on your phone too

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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it’s a downfall in the sense that

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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so even mobile gaming

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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if you buy your consoles only for exclusives

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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I'll probably end up using xbox series x for the multiplats and ps5 for the other stuff

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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and you’re able to get these games on pc anyways

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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if you buy your consoles only for exclusives
@spiral zinc but that literally only gives positives for the owner

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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there would be no point in getting the console if you can still play the game on pc

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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i dont think you understand how that works

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if you dont need to buy an xbox, then you wouldnt

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so its not a downfall

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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i don’t think you understand what i’m trying to say, i’m probably not explaining it in the best way

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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if i was into ps games, id say xbox is the best to buy for "everything non ps exclusive" and only buy ps exclusive games on ps

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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its a pro

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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yes dude

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that’s what i’m saying

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it’s a pro for the consumer

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it’s a downfall for microsoft

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:44 AM

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just avoid the word downfall lol

cosmic raft Sep 17, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Is there some kind of free software I can host somewhere, for images?
I want the ability to upload images and add tags to them, and then view all images, and search by tag

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:44 AM

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they aren’t selling another xbox one if the games are accessible on pc

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:44 AM

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but why would it matter if microsoft makes 60 less dollars

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and why should i care

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:44 AM

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for many yes they are

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:44 AM

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like it literally isnt an argument at all

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:45 AM

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most people enjoy couch gaming

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:45 AM

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yeah couch gaming is nice

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:45 AM

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so to be able to buy a game once and enjoy it on 3 different devices, is pretty nice

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 12:45 AM

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if i was into ps games, id say xbox is the best to buy for "everything non ps exclusive" and only buy ps exclusive games on ps
yeah this is what I'll do most likely if I go forward with getting both

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:45 AM

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i almost forgot xcloud, xcloud adds yet another perk to the xbox ecosystem

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:45 AM

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i’m still coming from the point that if you are a pc gamer, and the xbox one games you want to play are “play anywhere”, why do you have the need to buy the xb1

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:45 AM

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You could even play on your phone and hook it up to a tv without an xbox

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so you could really play on any newer device

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:46 AM

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@spiral zinc if you want to couch game, if you dont, then yeah dont buy it

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but, i think thats a minority of people

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:46 AM

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it could be but the argument was never about that afaik

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:47 AM

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you word it as noone who pc games has a reason, were saying they do, most people will want both

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:47 AM

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i’ve just been arguing whether or not the console is actually worth buying for the exclusives it offers

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:47 AM

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well thats a stupid argument

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:47 AM

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do you want to play oncouch or have others watch / play with you? then yes

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if no, then no

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I also have company over, so xbox is important for multiplayer stuff

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:47 AM

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most people dont care about exclusives, they care about the general ecosystem of the console, which does include exclusives, although they are minor

cosmic raft Sep 17, 2020, 12:47 AM

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anyone know anything?

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:48 AM

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i dont kash, ij ust use imgur 😛

cosmic raft Sep 17, 2020, 12:48 AM

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bleh

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:48 AM

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hopefully everyone gets to enjoy an alchohol infused night of Jackbox Party Pack

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great fun

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(when you are legal/safe to do so! >_>)

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:48 AM

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anything about what

cosmic raft Sep 17, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Is there some kind of free software I can host somewhere, for images?
I want the ability to upload images and add tags to them, and then view all images, and search by tag

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:49 AM

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ohh

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:49 AM

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doesnt imgur have tags

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:49 AM

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you see i wanna say gyazo

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but

cosmic raft Sep 17, 2020, 12:49 AM

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cannot be something hosted publicly, needs to be self-hostable

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:50 AM

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ah icy

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:50 AM

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what you could do is just make a quick api self hostable api that accepts a url and tags and saves them, then use any screenshot tool, upload to imgur, then post to your api with the imgur url and tags

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but idk any prebuilts

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:51 AM

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most people dont care about exclusives, they care about the general ecosystem of the console, which does include exclusives, although they are minor
@next wind despite this conversation never being about “most people”, people care about exclusives; this is about justifying your purchase, if you can play multi platform games anywhere and are only in the market for one console you’re obv going to go by the one with exclusives that interest you

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:51 AM

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ill make my own smh 😤

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:51 AM

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no your going to go buy the one that provides the better features

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:51 AM

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exclusives are what’s making the console shine in their own right, not multiplat games

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:51 AM

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id rather have multiplatform than exclusives

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:51 AM

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we still arguing?

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:52 AM

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oh yeah cause we all buy gaming consoles to listen to Spotify

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:52 AM

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too tired to do anything else so PepeShrug

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hmm actually im going to go work on my server

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:52 AM

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“id rather have multiplatform than exclusives”
this is just simply stupid

“no your going to go buy the one that provides the better features”
this is also just completely stupid and not true

cosmic raft Sep 17, 2020, 12:53 AM

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found one

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https://docs.getpinry.com

Pinry Docs

Docs for the Pinry project.

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:53 AM

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owo

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:53 AM

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just because its stupid to you, doesnt mean its stupid to me

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:53 AM

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oops

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:53 AM

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and that second one is true

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:54 AM

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well thats a stupid argument

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I’ll quote what you said like 6 minutes ago

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:54 AM

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rory_cmon

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:54 AM

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and no it’s not

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:54 AM

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argument ended

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thats it

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:54 AM

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who tf buys a gaming console because they offer “spotify”

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:54 AM

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i dont

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:55 AM

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so what are the features you’re buying the xbox for

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:55 AM

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can you guys shut the fuck up lets taco bout tacos

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:55 AM

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favorite taco?

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mahi mahi with lettuce and tomato is mine

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:55 AM

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none, never had them, because we don't have them in here >.<

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:55 AM

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ill mail you tacos

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just send your address here

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:55 AM

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carnitas, with some rice and beans, pepper jack shredded cheese and topped with lettuce
i may or may not be addicted to chipotle

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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ooh nice

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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I've had gyros

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not the same, but

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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i forgot shredded colby jack cheese

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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tortilla and some other things

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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people in this server have the best convo pivots when they lose an argument but whatever

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chipotle is bomb

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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lol sure ^^

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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nah its just a way to distract from a argument thats repeating itself

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hmm hard shell or soft shell taco?

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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to be clear i wasnt in your argument, i just got sick of yall arguing without end

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im the one who pivoted

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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not you simple

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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stfu

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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and no you didn’t pivot

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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he did multiple times to avoid questions that were addressed that he couldn’t reply

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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this message disagrees

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/daddys-home2-daddys-home2gifs-stop-it-stop-that-imean-it-gif-9694318

Tenor

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i feel like im a parent yelling at kids

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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it's just an argument between yall two, just take it to dms at this point, we dont care

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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hmm hard shell or soft shell taco?

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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nah i dont care about the argument, im trying to get him to drop it

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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next person t o bring it up is getting yeeted

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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hardshell tacos are good

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Yay Carlos is goign to pick up my salad at chipotle!!!!

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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nice

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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he'll be here soon

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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I'd probably like soft shell

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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with my salad

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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had leftover tacos for lunch earlier

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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but shell sounds so weird

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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whats in the salad

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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tacos?

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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you ever had gyros ?

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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i had a pizza salad which is, a salad btu replace lettuce with pizza

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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I like gyros

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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you ever had gyros ?
@novel horizon are those like subs?

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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probably, yeah

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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gyro is a type of meat

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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but it's a tortilla with meat, salad

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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oh alright

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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can be prepared as a sandwhich sub yes

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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never had one

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Half carnitas, half steak, brown rice, black beans, pico de gallo, fajita veggies, cheese (i think colby?), sour cream

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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ooh nice

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 12:59 AM

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all on top of their salad mix

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:59 AM

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gyro is lamb and beef mixed together iirc

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 12:59 AM

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looks something like this https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6vI1NzTZAaDlRyr-KbDu98JLRl6pkpS5DtzHSUFP7luuGbsQM4lOEgigEkdCppHFmMJY4C6I=w1080-h608-p-no-v0

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it depends, you can choose in most places.. at least for me

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they make it for you, so you can say whatever you want, it's nice

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and cheap kinda

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:00 AM

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1/620 messages on this channel contain the word taco

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fun facts

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 1:00 AM

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choose what?

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:00 AM

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what type of meat, how much, if you want it spicy or not, more salad, onions etc

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it costs about 4€ here for me

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and weights about 450-500G mostly

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some burger from restaurat may be 6€, from some fast food too or 4-5€ and is much less than that, but it's different food of course

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but it still tastes nice

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 1:01 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyro_(food) huh i always thought it was a type of meat preperation, not a style of cooking

Gyro (food)

A gyro or gyros (; Greek: γύρος, romanized: yíros/gyros, lit. 'turn', pronounced [ˈʝiros]) is a Greek dish made from meat cooked on a vertical rotisserie. Like shawarma and tacos al pastor, it is derived from the lamb-based doner kebab. In Greece it is now most often pork or c...

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:01 AM

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I imagine taco might be similar, just with some more salad

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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ive literally never seen it other than lamb based

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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you love to see it!

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novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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yeah, there's different kinds

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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ooo textboxes look lovely

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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they look pretty good

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the bread looks good

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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lamb is main ingredient, mostly, but it depends

cunning raft Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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what are textblocks again?

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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like this?

cunning raft Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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new line = new line literal?

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Could someone help explain this

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 AM

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you can get either tortilla (that i sent) or kebab which is in the bread

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:03 AM

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"""
Bruh
Moment
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which is the same as

"Bruh\nMoment"```

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just looks nicer I guess

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I feel like some of this stuff wont ever be used in an every day situation in java and if it is i can google it

cunning raft Sep 17, 2020, 1:03 AM

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ah i see

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Does that look like a problem u encounter on a daily basis @cunning raft

cunning raft Sep 17, 2020, 1:03 AM

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?

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I feel like some of this stuff wont ever be used in an every day situation in java and if it is i can google it
why don't you Google it now then 🤔

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:03 AM

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lol

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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just googling it now wont help me learn, itll just give me the answer and ill still be stuck

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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yes @cunning raft on a daily basis do you write programs that find roots of cubic equations

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i know i sure do

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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i wont get to explain why this is done or if its even crucial to my java knowledge

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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like somebody telling the right answer will help here, you could find solutions

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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text blocks are a java 15 thing (which came out ... yesterday) so I doubt you'd need to know about them unless you're beyond LTS

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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do you know what a cubic equation is @spiral sparrow

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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no

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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what level math are you in

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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8th grade

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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so that's what algebra 1?

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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😄

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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mmm

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next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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yeah

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 AM

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i wish java had competent people

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:05 AM

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i do multiplication and division

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sorry im not competent enough aikar

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:05 AM

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ok, a cubic equation has 3 roots. you'll learn that later in like idk algebra 2

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:05 AM

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nah thats algebra 1

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 1:05 AM

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releasing text blocks without interpolation was a huge mistake

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they needed the syntax reserved

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:05 AM

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the thing about java is

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and i guess im going to learn this in later courses

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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well, you're looking for numbers where when given the a,b,c,d (the inputs), and run x=0 to x=1000 (for loop) you want it to = 0

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if it doesn't, it's not a root

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does that's help

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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how tf do i turn off the wildcard thing

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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in what

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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uhh

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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iuntelli

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j

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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ill skip it for now idk

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i still have a lot of course left

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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its just math huck

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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maybe ill be able to do it better later

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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that's all that is

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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couldnt find it under wildcard or import

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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it's not a hard problem outside of the math

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:07 AM

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i feel like me not being too godo at math would limit my ability to develop well

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:07 AM

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you're in 8th grade

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just, keep learning

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you'll be fine

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:07 AM

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this is like, mostly all about math

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the for-loop section at least

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📎 unknown.png

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heres my next problem

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:07 AM

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it is, it's very easily solved when you know what a cubic is and what a root means

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:07 AM

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this one looks simpler though

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i can do this

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:08 AM

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heh

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:08 AM

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fizz buzz is pretty easy

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if i can do it you can

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I can one line fizzbuzz

static badge Sep 17, 2020, 1:08 AM

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i can one line an ai program that matches simple's brain power

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:08 AM

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wow

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https://tenor.com/view/thats-huge-william-newberry-goremiser-smite-thats-big-gif-18017632

Tenor

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:10 AM

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when they mean it's divislbe odes that mean it returns a whole number rather than a decimal one

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or negative

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Cam anyone show me how to get the wand tool thing on my mc sever?

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server*

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:10 AM

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You mean /minecraft:give nick debug_stick or

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what wand tool

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:10 AM

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if thats what it is

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I think he means worldedit wand

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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yea

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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then just //wan

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d

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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the one skeppy has

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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you need worldeidt plugin

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Do //wand

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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or

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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thehn do //wand

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Or just take an axe

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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when i do that it says there is and error

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Wooden, by default

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/worldedit

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here you go bro

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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whats the error

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Then the plugin's not working correctly probably

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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@spiral sparrow Thanks

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Or you don't have permissions

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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I dont have any plugs

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i just got a server

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my server is 1.16.3

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will the plugin still wokr?

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work*

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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yeah

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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actually, you want https://builds.enginehub.org/job/worldedit?branch=master probably

WorldEdit Builds

Downloads and builds for the WorldEdit project. Download beta and test builds!

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latest builds support 1.16.3 there

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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which do i download

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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latest

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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just the latest?

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alr

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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bukkit

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https://ci.enginehub.org/repository/download/bt10/15829:id/worldedit-bukkit-7.2.0-SNAPSHOT-dist.jar?branch=master&guest=1

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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how do i put it in my serer

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server*

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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rory_cmon

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:13 AM

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You copy it to the plugins folder

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:13 AM

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im so lost.

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Lmao

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When i download

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or click the latest thing

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it just says harmful

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then i click keep

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:14 AM

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ignore it

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:14 AM

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and that bih goes

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:14 AM

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mcafee is stupid

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:14 AM

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it just straight up leaves

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wait nvm

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im just braindead

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:15 AM

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is part of the dev job looking at other peoples code on stackoverflow then copy pasting

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because i do that a lot and i feel like i probably shouldnt be

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:15 AM

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you talking to me?

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:15 AM

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lol

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no, I usually look at SO for the question, see how they solved it, then write my own if I need to do that

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:15 AM

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sounds pretty normal according to what ive heard in this discord

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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I'm so lost holy shit

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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copy pasting isn't a great idea if you dont understand the code

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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yeah its just

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            System.out.println (i%3==0&&i%5==0?"FizzBuzz":i%3==0?"Fizz":i%5==0?"Buzz": String.valueOf(i));}// short&good))!

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Yeah, but still

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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I don't know how I would've ever gotten this right

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I forgot the ternary operator existed for this

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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took me like 3 lines

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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You said it yourself "don't wanna google it, I won't understand it", but.. you just copy it anyway, so 🤷

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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exactly

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Im saying i dont understand it

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I still need to move forward though

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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you know, programmers don't necessarily write that as the first thing they try and "wow it works"

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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it's not moving "forward" I'd say

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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we derive the shorter forms from the longer forms

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that is to say, write it long, then shorten it.

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Shadow

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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you know.. you can increase your skills by doing the thing you can do, more simple things

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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can you help me wit dis shit

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:17 AM

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how tho

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you have it on your computer? or a server rented?

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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im just taking what the academy is throwing at me

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Where do i put the file for the tool

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Its from aternos

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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\🎉

worn pasture Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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🥺

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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how did you put the worldedit there first time?

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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hi turbo pleading_apple

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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you have it on your computer? or a server rented?
@novel horizon its an aternos

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I didn't

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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ew

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I just got the server

worn pasture Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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👉 uwu 👈

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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minehut > aeenrenrtntossosososossnsoss

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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whats minehunt

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is it free?

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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aternos is so cool though, and its all i can afford /s

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i just ignore the 10 minutes it takes to start up

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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I didn't knew about Minehut 🤔

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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and the 2 tps

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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IM so braindead

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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minehut is aeternos but good ™️

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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mmm

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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You need to put the files there, idk what they offer, if you can do it through the browser or you need to do that through FTP

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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ran by the original author of essx

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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chew

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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maybe i should take a break from the java course

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since i do have a month

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and do the python one too

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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or, well, hes a higher up posiiton there

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM

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minehut is aeternos but good ™️
@mighty storm do you own minehut

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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hell no

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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@mighty storm Is minehunt free?

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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yes

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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you wish lol

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minehuts probably making at least 2 dollars a month

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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indeed, im making about -$20

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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i hope im not too stupid to do this

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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thats negative

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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huck, you don't need to move "forward" in the course, do you? you could repeat some things you "learnt"

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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programming has aways been my passion

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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do you know where to put the tool file for aternos

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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just dont be negative, and youll have positive

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:20 AM

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or like what i wanted to do

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:21 AM

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huck, not stupid ,but there's things that the course may do that are learned in a few years

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:21 AM

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should i use a byte of python or jetbrains academy?

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for python

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:21 AM

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jetbrains academy wasnt that great when i watched one of their videos

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havent heard of byte of python though

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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What do i do?

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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what the heck

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i switched to python on academy

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its giving me my java progress

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:23 AM

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you need to go into the plugins folder, Snug

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You are in the "world" folder, you can see it on top, click on the "house" that's there, that should take you up 1 directory

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then there should be folder called plugins

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and you put the .jar file (worldedit file) there

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:23 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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ops?

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:23 AM

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lol

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:24 AM

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is golang easy to learn?

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:24 AM

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you can't access other folders or what, what's this

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:24 AM

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rust, go, and java

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Thats what happens when i press the home

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:24 AM

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whats in the files menu?

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:24 AM

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That

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I was hoping not, if you hover over it, does it give you some options?

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:25 AM

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no

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Maybe you cannot edit the plugins by yourself if you have a free server :/

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:25 AM

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My friend did it

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and he uses the same thing

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:25 AM

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without paying? well, ask him then, the only way 😄

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Idk hes not answerting

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idk

sinful sorrel Sep 17, 2020, 1:26 AM

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https://support.aternos.org/hc/en-us/articles/360026950892-Install-plugins

Aternos

Install plugins

Step 1: Install a server software for plugins
You have to install a server software that allows the use of plugins. Currently available on Aternos are:

PaperMC (recommended): https://aternos.org...

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I did it

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im so smart

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i think

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idk

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NOOOOOOOO

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:26 AM

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dont use that word please

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:27 AM

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ITS 16.2

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oh my bad

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:27 AM

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?warn @arctic rock ableist speech

leaden oxideBOT Sep 17, 2020, 1:27 AM

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dynoSuccess Snug#8665 has been warned. || ableist speech

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:27 AM

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on the bright side, dum intellij fixed maven issues

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all i had to do was invalidate caches

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and im on java 15 🎉

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big party

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:28 AM

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chew

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i gotta tell you something

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hello

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are you listening

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ok fine nvm

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:29 AM

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god this is too hard

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Dont give up

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:30 AM

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DUM intellij broke again

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wtf

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sorry i tabbed into rory simp server

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 1:30 AM

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rory_aaa

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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rory_stare

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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do you guys think its good to learn by doing

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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yeah

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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well yeah lol

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

what should i start off with

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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whatever you want to build skill in

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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maybe i should get a project then just work on that

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Do a simple project between every new thing you learn

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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maybe a discord bot

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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that uses that skill

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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wouldnt recommend something outside of java's own apis

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Like if you just learnt about arrays or something, use them

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:32 AM

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then youll be learning their library and not java

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:32 AM

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wouldnt i be learning java by implementing some of their things

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:32 AM

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i have witnessed you change gears like 5 or 6 times now

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one problem was too hard, you move on, you looked it up and gave up, move on, then its a new language, now you want to make a discord bot

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im not trying to be mean, but you need to pick something and stick with it

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or you will NEVER learn a thing

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:33 AM

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simple whatcha need btw

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before i tab out again

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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i have something to tell you

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come closer

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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oh?

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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ok maybe i should be a learner by doing

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people do that and get really good

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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@mighty storm what i have to say is....is,......,,,

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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😳

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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uwu

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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😡

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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no ewew

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:35 AM

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so is it easy to use github from intellij im going to make a repository for my bot then maybe ill ask a friend to tell me what i could be doing better

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:35 AM

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@spiral sparrow Go on freecodecamp (website) and just start going through their series

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That's what a learner should do

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FCC also has a full algebra course on YT, 7 hrs long keks

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:35 AM

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what does freecodecamp do?

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does it give you projects to do?

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:35 AM

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yes

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:35 AM

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or teach you

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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but also lessons

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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can someone dm me some commands for the wand tool

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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lessons, then projects, then lessons

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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can someone dm me some commands for the wand tool
@arctic rock look it up

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no need to be lazy

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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smart

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Snug, there's a videos in which it can be explained easily and showed what it does ^^

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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@stiff yarrow hey sorry to ping but you gave me a book earlier for following the best java practices can i know the name again i tried to look for the msg but could not fid it

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oh wow the graduates from this site got jobs at google

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:37 AM

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ok well, that was my advice if you wanna ignore it and go make a discord bot, then

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hf

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:37 AM

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oh no i wasnt ignoring it

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Effective Java

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:37 AM

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i was going to read both of thehm

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im signing up for freecodecamp right now

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:37 AM

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okidokey

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:38 AM

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are these actual certifys that i can use at my job

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yes they are i thin k

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:38 AM

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yes, the certs are not free but the courses are

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you do the courses and then pay for the cert if you want it

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:38 AM

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oohh ok

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have you used it?

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:38 AM

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yes

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:39 AM

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this looks like its for python and html

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📎 unknown.png

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:40 AM

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They have JS, Python, HTML, and CSS. Which are good foundations from which to build.

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If you don't want to do that, then GL

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:40 AM

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ahh ok hmm

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are some of the concepts in JS similar to Java

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because if so i can start off by trying to learn that

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Modern JS has classes and stuff, but generally not really

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:41 AM

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i would do the JS and Python but not HTML and CSS because idk web dev doesnt seem like somethhing id be good at

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:41 AM

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However, on the other end of FCC you'll be able to learn Java without a lot of friction lol

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:41 AM

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what do you mean

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Then skip the responsive web design cert and just start doing the Javascript Algorithms and Data Structures

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:42 AM

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are the certs from them good ?

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:42 AM

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You'll learn how programming in general works, and you'll just need to learn the syntax. Right now you're at the stage where you know what code is, but you can't think logically and therefore you can't solve the problems being asked of you

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The problem is not "I can't code this" it's "I can't solve this"

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If you develop your logic skills, you can learn the code later.

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:42 AM

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oh ok so its my logical thinking

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that makes since

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:43 AM

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And FCC will certainly develop those skills

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@novel horizon not sure, I don't hold any

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I just used their courses a while ago

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:43 AM

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is this how you personally learned

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:43 AM

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No FCC didn't exist when I first learned, but I used FCC to strengthen my skills

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:43 AM

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ty, was wondering about them, it sounds nice

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:44 AM

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That was a great salad from chipotle

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 1:44 AM

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I'd love one too

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:44 AM

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rory_vibing

copper moss Sep 17, 2020, 1:44 AM

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I learned from The New Boston Bucky

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:44 AM

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i kinda wanna make a salad now

copper moss Sep 17, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Still suck though 😆

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:45 AM

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📎 unknown.png

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Nice

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It does get harder, believe me. Resist the urge to google.

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Use the hints.

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Googling at this stage will only hurt you

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:47 AM

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some ppl just do really cool stuff that i want to see

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i guess idk what im looking for but a career doing the same stuff

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:47 AM

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yeah, solve it for yourself first then google it and see how other people have solved it

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dont google before solving

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your goal is to develop your problem solving skills in reality, so if you skip that part you're just screwing yourself

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 1:47 AM

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hmm thats actually really smart. Then you solve the problem so your already learning, and then learn from the other people

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:47 AM

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no i meant for my career in general

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i guess im still very undecidied

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:47 AM

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dont decide then

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:48 AM

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i change it a lot i guess

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then how will i know what to learn

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:48 AM

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you're interested in code? code is used in a lot of professions my guy, not just software engineering

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knowing it only benefits you

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:48 AM

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sometimes i want to be a system admin, then other times a developer

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i want to do security research too

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:48 AM

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you're in 8th grade, don't have to decide now. and also all of those use code

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in some form or another

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:49 AM

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so learning how to do thhese languages could help me in a career like security research

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:49 AM

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whether it's pattern matching type stuff in security, coding features in software engineering, or coding utilities to help you with day-to-day BS as a sys admin

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yes

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:49 AM

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i like that stuff because i know the bug finders get paid big money for bounties

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there was someone named samczsun who does a lot of the vulnerability finding and stuff

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and bug hunting

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:50 AM

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and like i said already, you need problem solving skills. you can go to school, do your work, earn your degree but if you have all the theory and none of the "street smarts" (so to speak) to take a problem, dissect it into tiny pieces, understand it, and solve it? you're worth nothing in the job world

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so develop them and stop worrying about what degree you want

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you can start worrying in 10th grade

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 1:52 AM

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nah start worrying once you've gotten your degree yeefuckinhaw

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:54 AM

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js or rust?

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for later down the road

short yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:54 AM

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anyone have a good example for using callable instead of runnable? usually you want to process the return of callable. so with runnable so you can also process the result async

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 1:54 AM

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I would probably say do JS over Rust tbh

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:54 AM

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just go on free code camp and do the JS series, would ya? :p

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stop changing your mind

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 1:55 AM

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people will say it's a meme but they're just dumb, most large businesses leaning towards Rust these days, and it will teach you about low level programming stuff too

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:55 AM

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i guess ur right

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i mean even if i dont want to use js

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it will still help if i want to security research javascript

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no i didnt give up to say that but idk

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the math is too hard

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:56 AM

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alright, well, hf. I can't continue this, so I hope you will just do FCC and focus on it huck regardless if you want to use JS or not it's a good place to start. I have to go to class now

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 1:56 AM

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tysm for the fcc stuff simple

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:56 AM

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this dude just keeps trying stuff and then backing up and moving on to something else and it's getting annoying tbh but idk i kinda remember when i used to do that

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off to class

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also before i go into my zoom, @void void what java course was it? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/755956881838571660/axutBZF.png

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that's an easy problem, but not if you've never taken alg 2 like he hasn't kekwhyper

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what java course was he using

viral hornet Sep 17, 2020, 1:58 AM

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that's an easy problem

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ok

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 1:58 AM

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i mean you just have to know what roots are, and that a cubic has 3 of them

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then run numbers

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but he said the whole course was too hard bc of that

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just bc he's in idk what math they do in 8th grade

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but FCC doesn't have problems like that so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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easier

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:00 AM

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I tell you, having the will to listen to an MD and a PHD debating/discussing on some deep science on nutrition/metabolic disfunction requires some damn dedication lol

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spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:00 AM

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do you use complicated math like that in your every day stuff zbk

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or aikar

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:01 AM

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no, in real world you will rarely use complicated math outside of game development or science based development

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web and business related ideas rarely need it

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:02 AM

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aikar do you mind if i look at some of your projects on github and ask questions about some of the operations

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actually maybe i will do that later because i still have a basic grasp of java

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there is still a wide scope i must look at

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:02 AM

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you ont gotta ask me, you can ask the community

viral hornet Sep 17, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Aikar can be your tutor for as little as $95 a day!

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:03 AM

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wat, thats like my hourly rate lol

viral hornet Sep 17, 2020, 2:03 AM

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um

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sugar papa 🥺

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:03 AM

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but these doctors man, spewing mad science words

viral hornet Sep 17, 2020, 2:03 AM

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I'm suprised @heady spear hasn't been all over you Thonk

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:04 AM

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like now talking about diff type of mouse models

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nocturne falcon Sep 17, 2020, 2:05 AM

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^^^^

arctic rock Sep 17, 2020, 2:09 AM

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how do i get barrier blocks?

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:09 AM

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my biggest problem with this will be problem solving but im slowly learning!

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 2:11 AM

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rory_cmon

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spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 2:15 AM

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my biggest problem with this will be problem solving but im slowly learning!
@spiral sparrow don't forget that it will get much easier to learn new languages the more you already know

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basically everything to do with tech is highly exponential, the more you know the faster you learn, which is why it takes so long and seems so hard to start out :P

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it's also why fundamentals of things are important

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if you don't know those you'll struggle with everything

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:18 AM

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is it godo to start off young

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or is tis something to be conerned about when in college @spiral zinc @void void

spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 2:20 AM

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I think it's pretty helpful to start off young, you have a lot of time to learn stuff

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and if you keep learning things you will probably know a lot by the time you're in college

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:20 AM

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the younger the better

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 2:29 AM

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r/nocontext

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 2:30 AM

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That's an epicR/ I have reddit moment!!!!!.! You just got pranked

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Wheres the cheapest i can buy a vps for

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Just to host a nodejs app

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Hetzner maybe

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I dont have a id

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Get a parents I'd then

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I was 21 when I first started to learn programming

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Or there might be a better host idk

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:31 AM

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wow nossr how old are you now

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:32 AM

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I turn 32 soon

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:32 AM

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10 years thats a long time

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do you only do java?

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:33 AM

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right now almost all my work is in Java

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but once you learn 1 language its easy to learn another, I've worked a lot in C++ as well (bjarnes books are a god send)

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:34 AM

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is it ok to have a nubmer in your package name

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or is that against java convention

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just quick question

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:35 AM

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i better not tell huck my numbers

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:35 AM

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for the most part follow java style conventions, there's exceptions to everything, if you find a reason to need to use them in package names, then do it, you just want to be following best practices unless you have good reason not to

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 2:36 AM

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yeah aikar you're ancient

waxen panther Sep 17, 2020, 2:36 AM

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@heady spear wake up

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I've been programming for 19 years, but I say my actual experience is easily worth 25-30

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:36 AM

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how many people here are 30+

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 2:36 AM

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So your at least 19

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:37 AM

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I started at 16

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turning 35 in nov

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:37 AM

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longer than ive been alive lol

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:38 AM

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my best advice is read books

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Books are for nerds

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I've never read a book >_>

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(programming)

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everythings online , easier to get hands on

waxen panther Sep 17, 2020, 2:38 AM

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depends on what kind of learner you are

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i hate digital reading

next wind Sep 17, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Books are less hands on too

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:39 AM

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biggest thing is to find a goal that benefits you, aligns with passion, and work until youcomplete that goal

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 2:39 AM

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if you're a java dev the only book I recommend is effective java

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teaches you the core fundamentals of good java code practices

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:39 AM

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effective java is pretty good and easy to follow

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 2:39 AM

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written by a guy who wrote a lot of the core JDK libraries

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so, he knows his shit

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:40 AM

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bjarnes books for C++ made learning that language reasonable

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effective java is the only java book I have

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for C++ I read 3 different books and I think they might have all been bjarne books

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 2:41 AM

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I think there's a well-trusted parallel programming in java book

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or concurrency

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but I haven't read it

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 2:45 AM

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ezpz

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peak dirge Sep 17, 2020, 2:47 AM

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https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-09/11/17/asset/e47695c6f3f8/sub-buzz-10239-1568224416-2.png?downsize=900:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto

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reminds me of that

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then there's the guy who sprinkled Pokemon names in his resume, always fun

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:48 AM

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wtf is that question

peak dirge Sep 17, 2020, 2:48 AM

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that's philosophy 101

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given the context, you can safely make an educated guess about the answer

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:49 AM

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beats me, i dont know shit on that topic

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:49 AM

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migos is that mumble rap group isn't it

peak dirge Sep 17, 2020, 2:49 AM

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yeah, from Atlanta too.

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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damn aikar hasn't been in school in a long time

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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logos are for companies branding. ethos is like a minecraft mod pack. migos sounds like amigos

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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#old amirite

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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is there anything wrong with doing JavaPlugin#getPlugin

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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no its the only way to get your plugin if you dont have the ref lol

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:51 AM

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the only way? Kappa

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 2:51 AM

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There's also absolutely nothing at all wrong with using Bukkit methods instead of getServer(). How the myth started I'll never fucking know

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:51 AM

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is there another plugin requesting method im not familiar with?

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note I said "If you don't have the ref"

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 2:51 AM

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walk the heap to find all JavaPlugin objects

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:52 AM

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oh right its on plugin manager too

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:52 AM

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I need something from my main class though

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:52 AM

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my brain immediately went to completely unecessary reflection code you would never use when you said only way

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:52 AM

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so pass your class to other instances, this is called dependency injection

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this.someOtherClass = new SomeOtherClass(this);

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.g dependency injection java

limber knotBOT Sep 17, 2020, 2:53 AM

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(DiscordBot) https://www.vogella.com/tutorials/DependencyInjection/article.html -- Using dependency injection in Java - Introduction - Tutorial: "Jul 24, 2020 ... Dependency injection (DI) is the concept in which objects get other required objects from outside. DI can be implemented in any..."

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 2:53 AM

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it's also called inversion of control because we can't just have 1 name for things

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:53 AM

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ugh ignore that link it goes into libraries

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thats a diff topic solvable with DI demon 😛

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can do DI w/o IOC lol

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 2:56 AM

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I don't necessarily agree

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If think if you're doing DI you are by default doing IOC

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though in this case there's only ever one impl so you could argue it's not IOC

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but w/e

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 2:58 AM

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mmm i have a question

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nevermind

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what is bad about annotating my main class with @getter from lombok

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not many people do it so i would assume maybe its a bad practice

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should i just do it for the fields i need it for

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:02 AM

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people in here don't like lombok

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truth is it doesn't matter

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:03 AM

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most people but not all 😛

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Top 10 discrims according to my bot (with 184k users cached)
#0001 - 4174 users
#9999 - 722 users
#6969 - 571 users
#1337 - 470 users
#6666 - 398 users
#0002 - 278 users
#7777 - 242 users
#1234 - 241 users
#1111 - 232 users
#0666 - 231 users

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:04 AM

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mine is the best

static badge Sep 17, 2020, 3:04 AM

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discrims?

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 3:04 AM

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thats taylor swift's birth year?

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:04 AM

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discriminator - the number after your discord name

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to make your account unique

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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i wondder why people choose 6969

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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yeah, and the name of her 6th album

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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hell ye

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my mom and her share a birthday

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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december 13?

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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is birds of prey good

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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it was an enjoyable 2 hours but I don't really remember much of the money

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 3:06 AM

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ye (to dec 13)

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:06 AM

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trying to put my hbo account to use to justify the money its draining

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:06 AM

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lol

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it's worth a watch probably

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:06 AM

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they are adding new content though, got some good stuff

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:06 AM

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I get HBO max through AT&T, but I was paying for it anyways

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:07 AM

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this raised by wolves is good, and i hear Lovecraft Country is great too

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debating startign lovecraft or doing birds of prey

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prob BOP then go to bed

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sucks you cant binge hbo ; ;

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 3:11 AM

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what kind of exception should i throw if i am missing a key from config

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RuntimeException?

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Aikar I think people choosing #6969 is the same reason i make a joke before and someone said it.. "kids" 😔

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Cobra Kai was good

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only immature people choose stuff like #6969 and #1337 alchemy

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:16 AM

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1337 is not immature lol, just corny

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:18 AM

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i mean 6969 is just because 6's and 9's look the same right?

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 3:18 AM

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sure

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:19 AM

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there's definitely nothing sexual or otherwise weird about it

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:19 AM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/gif-animated-cartoon-funny-69-yinyang-xUOxf99uLL7xqR5xMQ

Giphy

Ben

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its a ying yang

novel horizon Sep 17, 2020, 3:19 AM

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yeah 👍

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:19 AM

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ah that makes sense

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 3:28 AM

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how do i get the jetbrains annotations like @nonnull in my ide

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 3:31 AM

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how TF

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do I

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WILDCARD GO POOF

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Ugh

waxen panther Sep 17, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Depends if you want to use the IntelliJ annotations or the javax ones

serene bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:32 AM

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1337 is my discrim too :P

peak dirge Sep 17, 2020, 3:33 AM

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real men use checker framework annotations

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 3:33 AM

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yall probably dont show up on my cache tho :(

ancient bolt Sep 17, 2020, 3:34 AM

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checker framework doesn't generate null checks for you

copper moss Sep 17, 2020, 3:40 AM

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If you are using IntelliJ @spiral sparrow there should be an alert (Yellow Lightbulb) that allows you to select how to want to resolve it.

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mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 3:50 AM

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nonnul instead of notnull? thats new

minor badge Sep 17, 2020, 3:51 AM

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thats very old

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 3:52 AM

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hey anyone here ever use aikar command framework

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what would be the flag to check if there was a player specified in the command

vestal jasper Sep 17, 2020, 3:52 AM

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.ask

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.justask

limber knotBOT Sep 17, 2020, 3:52 AM

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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

minor badge Sep 17, 2020, 3:52 AM

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void cmd(Player sender) {}```

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 3:52 AM

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so lets say i do /kick i want to kick myself but if i do /kick player i do player

vestal jasper Sep 17, 2020, 3:52 AM

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add it as an argument

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 3:52 AM

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so it would be if (args.length == 0)

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for the regular kick right

vestal jasper Sep 17, 2020, 3:52 AM

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no

minor badge Sep 17, 2020, 3:52 AM

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OnlinePlayer / OfflinePlayer for targets

vestal jasper Sep 17, 2020, 3:53 AM

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you have two executors, one that doesn't have a player argument, and one that does

or one executor where the player is @Optional (and thus nullable)

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 3:54 AM

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ok i think @Optional is what im looking for

vestal jasper Sep 17, 2020, 3:54 AM

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ACF does argument parsing for you

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:54 AM

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oh man your jumping into ACF already?

vestal jasper Sep 17, 2020, 3:54 AM

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idk where you're getting an array of args from

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:54 AM

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arent you just learning java

copper moss Sep 17, 2020, 3:54 AM

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I wasn't using it @minor badge / @mighty storm .

just was letting huck know how to get it via intellij.

I've always used @Notnull.

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:54 AM

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ACF's not uh beginner friendly

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 3:54 AM

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no ive had some experience but it was from um

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me doing bukkit before java

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 3:55 AM

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well if you can get it then sure go for it lol

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but i kinda expect you to know basics

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 3:55 AM

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once again,learn java, not libraries

spiral sparrow Sep 17, 2020, 3:55 AM

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oh there we go https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/acf-beta-annotation-command-framework.234266/page-4 i found it

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

Resource - (ACF - BETA) Annotation Command Framework

@Subcommand("kick|gkick")
@CommandAlias("gkick")
@Syntax(" &e- Kick Player from the group.")
Seems a bit much, you could just shorten...

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perfect thats what i needed thanx

copper moss Sep 17, 2020, 3:58 AM

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I have a question since we are speaking about java.

To grab player texture via url. When creating an object with InputStreamReader which one would be preferred in your opinion. The one from Java.io or Craftbukkit(nms)?

minor badge Sep 17, 2020, 4:00 AM

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java.io

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 4:01 AM

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EngineHub does

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 4:03 AM

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rtx_boi

copper moss Sep 17, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Might I ask why @minor badge ?

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 4:04 AM

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prefer stdlib over the one a lib provides unless you have a specific reason for needing the one the lib provides

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lib in this case being CB

copper moss Sep 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Okay I see, I guess that could apply for everything that is coded.

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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yes

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all you know is CB has a class called InputStreamReader, you have no guarantee it is Java's ISR, it is just a ISR. If you're thinking of using an ISR how Java defines it, then you want the one from java.io

minor badge Sep 17, 2020, 4:07 AM

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CB's is probably just a relic from Java 6 times just like Consumer

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 4:08 AM

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ye lol

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i was thinking it's either that, or some random class called InputStreamReader with a specific purpose

copper moss Sep 17, 2020, 4:09 AM

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I was reviewing both comparing. Still new in this aspect of Java and wasn't sure if it was better pactice to stick with java packages or CB

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Was trying to save myself soem timerather than gonig through docs trying to figure it out

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so thank you

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 4:09 AM

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opt for stdlib (standard lib/java's packages) over any lib unless you need lib specifically, general rule of thumb for any language anywhere

void void Sep 17, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Bitwarden or KeePass

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 4:29 AM

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ah yes

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spiral zinc Sep 17, 2020, 4:41 AM

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@stiff yarrow apparently the ps5 went on pre order for some retailers already

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and they’re already sold out

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yikes lol

slim nymph Sep 17, 2020, 4:57 AM

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wonder how preorders work directly from microsoft store with payment plan

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also curious how itll work w/ my GamePass Ultimate still paid up until next year already, hopefully itll add 24 months of time on top of it

plush heart Sep 17, 2020, 5:11 AM

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hmmmmmm

📎 Screen_Capture_on_2020-09-16_at_22-05-45.mp4

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Almost as amusing as making sure someone is very aware of the throttle being present

📎 Screen_Capture_on_2020-09-16_at_21-57-36.mp4

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 5:21 AM

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I’m just waiting on the official sony pre order wait list to go live

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 5:32 AM

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wtf which webhook event is for gh-actions build

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wtf is going on

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minor badge Sep 17, 2020, 5:51 AM

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you did 1 too many closing parens on 2nd if stmt

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and 1 too few on the 3rd

fair pecan Sep 17, 2020, 5:51 AM

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split those into seperate variables, it won't hurt

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 5:55 AM

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i dont wanna do
if()
if()
if()
if()

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 5:58 AM

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that code is a mess

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hides

static badge Sep 17, 2020, 5:58 AM

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obsessing about smaller code generally leads to fucking messes

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just look at kotli

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n

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 5:58 AM

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chew you're missing parens (if you hadn't figured it out yet)

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also an extra bracket

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where there shouldn't be

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rainbow brackets is nice enough to make that kind of stuff easier to spot

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 5:59 AM

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yeah yeah i knew

stiff yarrow Sep 17, 2020, 6:03 AM

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now assign those strings to constants and make this stuff easier to read

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ctrl+alt+c is godliness

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 6:07 AM

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idk what the code is atm

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just added a hangar command

static badge Sep 17, 2020, 6:08 AM

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rainbow brackets aren't needed

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what's needed is for proper fucking indentation

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what the fuck is that indentation

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:08 AM

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indentation is wrong because parenthesis is wrong

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 6:09 AM

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https://github.com/Chewbotcca/Discord/blob/f139075cf0f46f5dfba53d4de250224f39126f88/src/main/java/pw/chew/chewbotcca/listeners/MessageHandler.java have fun

rose turtle Sep 17, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Hey, does anyone know of a way to create custom xml elements, attributes, and attribute values that will tab complete with emmet in VSCode?

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:16 AM

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@mighty storm l o n g l i n e

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 6:16 AM

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sly ruin Sep 17, 2020, 6:32 AM

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This is going to sound naïve but whatever.

Is there a way to download the papermc source code with all the patches already applied? Like, something I can plop open in an IDE?

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 6:33 AM

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yep, clone repo and run ./paper patch

sly ruin Sep 17, 2020, 6:33 AM

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ty

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 6:33 AM

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otherwise it'd be illegal 😳

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I believe that's the command

sly ruin Sep 17, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Illegal? Actually? Or did the sound of a joke going over my head make me hear you wrong?

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 6:34 AM

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https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#modifying-patches

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smth like that

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and ye 99% sure it's illegal (or against some license) to host raw java code hence why we're patching to begin with

sly ruin Sep 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Thanks for being so helpful!

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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hopefully that helps, if not, someone would be happy to help (In #paper-dev ofc)

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:43 AM

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the part that's illegal is hosting the MC server code in full

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the rest still uses the patching system because it makes maintenance easier when tracking upstream

vernal moth Sep 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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And once we are upstream, we can hopefully get rid of stuff

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:50 AM

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i wonder what the best system will be for maintainability of source patches

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a more limited patch system might be neat for the patches against the base game, i dunno

vernal moth Sep 17, 2020, 6:51 AM

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I would argue to stop patching bukkit and craftbukkit

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And only patch nms

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If we need patch per feature or just craftbukkit style patch per file idk

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:51 AM

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yeah, base game is what yall call nms

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i think patch per feature would be easier to work with?

vernal moth Sep 17, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Yeah sorry, dum habit

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:52 AM

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you'll have real packages soon

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and then it won't all be in server

vernal moth Sep 17, 2020, 6:52 AM

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I already have ^^

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At dyescape we already use mojang mappings

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:52 AM

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oh cool

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 6:52 AM

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delayscape lives?

vernal moth Sep 17, 2020, 6:52 AM

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I basically have an awful version of paperweight

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:53 AM

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heh

vernal moth Sep 17, 2020, 6:53 AM

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I don't know if patches per feature is easier, I never had to do a mc update using that system before

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And like, the dev workflow would be easier, no need to constantly rebase your changes into the right patch and stuff

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:54 AM

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it's sortof what paper does currently, and it's what lets patches get dropped as needed

vernal moth Sep 17, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Yeah, that's the advantage

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:54 AM

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sponge kindof does that with mixins too -- there are different sets that can be turned on or off, for api, core features, performance patches, and such

vernal moth Sep 17, 2020, 6:55 AM

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Ok, but that's different again

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That's a mix of both

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:55 AM

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yeah

vernal moth Sep 17, 2020, 6:56 AM

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But I mean, mixins are easier to deactivate than source patches

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 6:56 AM

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there's no one 'right' way, and i'm sure paper will find a strategy that works eventually

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just going to be some trial & error

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 7:20 AM

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uwu

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 7:20 AM

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uwu

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 7:23 AM

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uh oh

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 7:24 AM

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do you mean "uwu owo"?

mighty storm Sep 17, 2020, 7:25 AM

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nope

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kekwhyper

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kekwhyper

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Oops

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Wouldn't let me exit emoji menu

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As I was saying

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Imma sleep

zealous wedge Sep 17, 2020, 7:25 AM

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good night

humble falcon Sep 17, 2020, 7:26 AM

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good night chew

cedar spade Sep 17, 2020, 8:03 AM

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kekwhyper

twin lagoon Sep 17, 2020, 8:04 AM

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KEKDisco

heady spear Sep 17, 2020, 8:17 AM

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so I had a zoom exam thingy

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it was super awkward and I forgot everything

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and the dude speaking had a weird English accent I couldn't understand at all

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he said congestion control and I was convinced he said context control

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and I was like ???

worn ember Sep 17, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Sucks to suck city

minor badge Sep 17, 2020, 8:22 AM

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god you suck so MUCH city 😠

heady spear Sep 17, 2020, 8:23 AM

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D:

potent fossil Sep 17, 2020, 8:23 AM

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use your CONTEXT clues CITY why would he be saying CONTEXT CONTROL in a class about TRAFFIC

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https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-no-sign-of-intelligent-life-dumb-toy-story-gif-11489315

Tenor

heady spear Sep 17, 2020, 8:24 AM

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That's why I was so confused

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he also asked how a web server stores the information associated with a cookie and i told him it was a dumb question

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he didn't appreciate that

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but it's entirely dependent on how the fucking server is implemented like god damn Muhammed

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then I forgot how self learning in switches works so that was embarrassing

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Okay, 97.5% isn't bad ig

vestal jasper Sep 17, 2020, 8:40 AM

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oh noes my exploits don't wurk guise D:

worn ember Sep 17, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Oh no

cedar spade Sep 17, 2020, 8:43 AM

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but it's entirely dependent on how the fucking server is implemented like god damn Muhammed
@heady spear "no the php code makes a call to the MySQL database"

heady spear Sep 17, 2020, 8:44 AM

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lol