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twin lagoon
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you just plug it in

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just like any other device

golden gust
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are you using ssh?

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if you are, it literally has to have a connection for that...

spiral sparrow
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learning java throughh jetbrains academy now 😄

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I will complete the track in 100 hours

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Is that possible to do with the right dedication in under a month

mighty storm
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.wa hours in a month

limber knotBOT
mighty storm
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yeah

spiral sparrow
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perfect

left swift
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Hmmm I'm a scientist and I can also confirm there is atleast 1 hour in a month

mighty storm
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big if true

left swift
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Sometimes at least 2 hours if we try hard enough

void void
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GUYS I SWEAR I WAS IN MEDBAY!"
[7:29 PM]
.  。    •   ゚  。
  .   .      .     。   。 .
 .   。  ඞ 。  . •
• Red was not An Impostor.  。 .
    。 1 impostor remains  ゚   .     .
,    .  .   . 。

warm anchor
twin lagoon
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i don't understand among us

mighty storm
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basically

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1 person is imposter they can kill

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someone

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they have to pick imposter

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p much it

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more fun with people you know

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ive never playd, doesnt interest me

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i love the meme templates it provides tho

minor badge
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love the game, hate the memes

novel horizon
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The game seems fun.. but you need friends to play though

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You could play it with random people, maybe, but not sure if it's good

spiral sparrow
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whats not right about this

novel horizon
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You could Google

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You need to know ..

warm anchor
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So basically mafia game?

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Or project winter?

spiral sparrow
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But I don't get it @novel horizon I literally just read all of that

novel horizon
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It may be all, you must select what is true for string in Java

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Or just brute force it..

spiral sparrow
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strings arent primitive data types

ashen cliff
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Just play SS13.

Medbay status: Gone.
Cloning removal patch: Speed merged.
SM on fire: True.

quasi valley
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which obv means one of your ticks is wrong

spiral sparrow
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yes but idk which one

novel horizon
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Isn't the last one false?

spiral sparrow
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oh

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no

novel horizon
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So?

spiral sparrow
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String#size doesn't exist

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it was String#length

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I was thinking of

novel horizon
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lol ^^

twilit frigate
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i legit cant get the wget command

twin lagoon
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apt update

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apt install wget

novel horizon
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^^

twin lagoon
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if it still says no installation candidate, you don't have internet (do a connectivity check for just pinging google.com) or your repositories are invalid

twilit frigate
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it says no installation candidate also apt update just be like no for me

twin lagoon
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define "no"

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screenshots

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logs

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errors

novel horizon
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what does no for me means? 🤔

twilit frigate
twin lagoon
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you don't have any valid repositories

spiral sparrow
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what do gems do?

twilit frigate
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So how would I resolve this

zealous knot
twin lagoon
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by adding repositories

zealous knot
twilit frigate
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h o w t h o

twin lagoon
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google

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literally, google all your errors

twilit frigate
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Am 14 year old my brain is small

twin lagoon
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that's linux systems administration in a nutshell for you

golden gust
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Go search what you need to put in there

twin lagoon
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google

golden gust
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there is likely a tool for debian which will do that for you

novel horizon
twin lagoon
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you will guaranteed find a useful answer on google and resolve it

zealous knot
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GOGLE YUOR PROBS

twilit frigate
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Ok

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Chill homie

zealous knot
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lmao

twin lagoon
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i can give you the answer if necessary if you can't figure it out

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but it's on g o o g l e

golden gust
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Go take a basic sys-admin course

zealous knot
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gogle*

novel horizon
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Well, first time you should always try to find on Google

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If I can't do something, I'll ask, but if it's a small thing that may take a few minutes, why bother people when there's already answer

mighty storm
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essay due in 1 hour

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almost halfway done

zealous knot
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wait

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you do your essays 1 hour before due?

mighty storm
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due today, do today

worn ember
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who doesnt

zealous knot
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bruh moment brug

worn ember
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well i dont

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cuz i dont have essays

spiral sparrow
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its telling me umm

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my code can be improved

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but its not telling me how

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what about line 7 can be improved

cunning raft
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you could inline everything

spiral sparrow
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what do you mean

novel horizon
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The text is underlined, seems like you could click on it? Can't you?

spiral sparrow
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no

novel horizon
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Kinda weird design then :/

spiral sparrow
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it highlights the line but it's not telling me how it can be improved

mighty storm
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i wanna do this jetbrains academy thing

twin lagoon
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do it

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i stopped after half an hour

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java is too hard

mighty storm
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lol

tired heath
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Wanna do the ofunny academy? Only 99,90 special deal

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Contains useful things like Philosophy about Java and what Java is, how do style your code commands on a none Boomer way and of course, a certificat may or may not printed on a Mc Donalds napkin.

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Only 4 places left

void void
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.toLowerCase(Locale.ROOT)

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i bet

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or Locale.ENGLISH

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whichever it likes more

left swift
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Only 50 easy quick payments of 9.99$ and I'll send you a link to the java docs

void void
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oh wait it should return if it starts with J/j or not

tired heath
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A yes, I forgot, including an html frame wrapper surrounding Java docs with cute kitten pictures.

worn ember
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mikropp

void void
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boolean res = input.length() > 0 && (input.charAt(0) == 'j' || input.charAt(0) == 'J');
System.out.println(res);
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there you go

mighty storm
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is that less efficient than just doing .toLowerCase() ?

void void
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this is more efficient

twilit frigate
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i've searched ages i just can't fix this, it's like every time i install anything my pc just goes no

void void
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toLowerCase converts whole string to lower case

twilit frigate
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i literally have almost no commands on my debian server and the internet doesnt work on it

void void
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and then you'll check if it starts with j

mighty storm
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why not input.charAt(0).equalsIgnoreCase('j')?

twilit frigate
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there's no wget, sudo, java, etc at all

void void
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  1. input length might not be >0
  2. .equalsIgnoreCase takes string as an argument
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comparing objects will be always slower than comparing numbers

mighty storm
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oh fuck forgot ' is char

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  1. doesn't matter since you're still checking that
void void
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wdym

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.charAt(0) throws IOOBE if .length() == 0

mighty storm
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my suggestion was

boolean res = input.length() > 0 && input.charAt(0).equalsIgnoreCase("J");```
void void
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i see

mighty storm
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never modified the first bit

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but I guess chars are their own thing?

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idk

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i guess strings are char sequences though

void void
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literally

mighty storm
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int, char, etc don't have methods right?

void void
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none of the primitives do

mighty storm
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idk why that feels so foreign to me

void void
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that's why you don't live on ruby

mighty storm
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😡

void void
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bet you can't even haskell

mighty storm
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sorry but "5".to_i is much better than try {Integer.parseInt("5"); } catch (NumberFormatException e) {bruh;}

void void
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runs

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that's why i do kotlin

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"5".toIntOrNull()

left swift
mighty storm
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seriously, why tf is "rhu4w3f" a number format exception, in ruby it's just like 0

void void
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because ruby is dumb

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clearly

mighty storm
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smart*

void void
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no

mighty storm
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yes

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number format exception is dumber

void void
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it's like calling php perfect language

mighty storm
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i agree, v dumb, why have them

void void
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"0".to_i returns 0 as well, right?

mighty storm
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indeed

tired heath
void void
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how can you decide whether input was faulty or not?

mighty storm
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depends on context

spiral sparrow
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is kotlin better than java

left swift
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Ruby is a good song

mighty storm
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no huckk, no

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in my case, i'm checking input of say a page number

quasi valley
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don't use/learn Kotlin if you haven't properly learned Java yet

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do it afterwards

void void
mighty storm
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page number default is 0 anyway

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so if they provide a string

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i want 0

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so

void void
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lemme google it myself

upper flicker
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I mean that's all ruby is doing anyway

void void
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.g ruby convert string to integer

upper flicker
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you can write your own func for that in yava and there you go

limber knotBOT
upper flicker
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be one of those people who carry around a personal lib with them

spiral sparrow
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z750 what languages do you know

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like all of them

mighty storm
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lmao

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lmao to that as well

quasi valley
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z750 please transfer all that is in your brain into mine

mighty storm
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/clone

upper flicker
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there's a lot of bad that comes with just a little bit of good

left swift
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Like batman

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Z is batman

void void
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dear god, i was thinking that i'll never want to touch ruby; now i'm very confident in that thought

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fuck ruby

mighty storm
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ur just jealous

void void
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yeah keep thinking that

mighty storm
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didnt deny it

void void
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whatever makes you happy

left swift
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Zatman

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Lul

spiral sparrow
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mikroskeem what lang’s do u know overall

left swift
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English

mighty storm
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i like ruby a lot more than java, so many useful nicknacks, java is just more widely used/known though

next wind
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english uk, english us

void void
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idk see my github profile

mighty storm
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definitely staying as far away from python as possible tho

void void
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python is epic

upper flicker
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python is fine

left swift
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Snakes are cool

mighty storm
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python is ruby without end statements, so hard to write and even harder to read

upper flicker
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I wouldnt use it for much other than scripting++ though

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definitely wouldnt script with ruby though

void void
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if i wanted end statements

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i would rather use l u a

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and relearn that arrays are 1 indexed

mighty storm
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ah yes, lua, ti-basic but on computers

heady spear
spiral sparrow
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wow you know a lot nikroskeem

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how old are you

mighty storm
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👀

void void
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3

twin lagoon
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what os do you use mikroskeem

mighty storm
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why do you want to know people's ages wtf

spiral sparrow
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well

twin lagoon
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what os do you use chew

heady spear
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mikro is actually 7

mighty storm
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i dont

next wind
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huck how old are you

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you must answer

upper flicker
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Michael is just upset people don't like him

twin lagoon
mighty storm
spiral sparrow
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i just think he was older because he knew a lot of languages and with that must come a lot of years to you know

void void
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boring

spiral sparrow
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hone his skills on languages

void void
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look huck

next wind
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show the graph with lots of colors or boring

twin lagoon
void void
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my skills aren't worth a s h i t

upper flicker
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I have that calculator sitting on my desk right now

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stop emulating my desk

spiral sparrow
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why not

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wouldnt ppl want to hire you because of how much you know

void void
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if you don't do full stack development

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then you have hard time getting a job

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you must do e v e r y t h i n g

ashen cliff
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Nice 10Gbps links, now get me a SSH account on that box.

spiral sparrow
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you dont do everything ?

void void
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clearly not

left swift
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What kind of plates do you eat food off of huck

twin lagoon
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@ashen cliff 4x4tb aswell kappa_tea

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now if i only i can install an OS on it

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:^)

ashen cliff
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Need it right now.

void void
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.g ti-84 forth port

limber knotBOT
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twin lagoon
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would be even better if the IPMI wasn't as scuffed

void void
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that shit is dope

ashen cliff
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Asus board?

twin lagoon
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supermicro

ashen cliff
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Epic.

twin lagoon
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they have decent html5 IPMI's on infra series

mighty storm
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tf is fourth

ashen cliff
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Now modify the bios.

twin lagoon
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i can modify the bios yes

ashen cliff
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But will you?

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You know I would.

twin lagoon
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oh

void void
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we all know krusic

twin lagoon
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apparently it just doesn't show up in boot menu

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???

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i know what you're thinking

ashen cliff
void void
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AMI monkaChrist

ashen cliff
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ALL LIMITS TO MAX!

spiral sparrow
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mikroskeem how much did your mac cost

ashen cliff
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What platform?

twilit frigate
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ill literally pay someone like 5 dollars paypal if they can help me set this up ;-;

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im broke

twin lagoon
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ske3lly, define your repositories, apt update

void void
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ske3lly make it 10 and i'll do the hand holding for you

twilit frigate
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apt update just doesnt work for me and all the commands to sort my internet dont work

spiral sparrow
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what is that @twin lagoon

void void
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i deserve that nice cold beer

ashen cliff
twilit frigate
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i would do 10 if i had 10 5 is all ive got

twin lagoon
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i completely forgot i have 0 fucking reason to install debian through IPMI

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i have an SSD

void void
twilit frigate
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you can buy 5 whole haribos

ashen cliff
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Some amazing Intel platforms can show the boot menu before stuff actually initializes.

spiral sparrow
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is it hard being a sysadmin michael

twin lagoon
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painful

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emotional

void void
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fucking hell yea it is

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drink to that

twin lagoon
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lmao

ashen cliff
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Perc 30 to that.

void void
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man i had to fix some dumbass chmod 777ing / recursively

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today

spiral sparrow
void void
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i really have no idea why people let him behind the machine

spiral sparrow
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is the i3 config updated

void void
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no

twin lagoon
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rip doxxed

void void
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u

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@twin lagoon sexy

void void
spiral sparrow
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oh thanx

void void
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.g wallhaven-dgzj9o.jpg

limber knotBOT
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@void void gnu stow?

void void
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no

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fuck that

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wtf

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@twin lagoon wtf . . . . .

void void
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nix

twin lagoon
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ok let's see what ovh's rescue system does now that i have ipmi anyways

void void
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.g home-manager

limber knotBOT
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i use stow and it's pretty GAMER

spiral sparrow
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can i see your dots proximyst

void void
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ur filthy casual

twin lagoon
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.

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void void
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hehe proxi show dots

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i mean 😳

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wat

spiral sparrow
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thx you

twin lagoon
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bobs

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i currently use bspwm-boat

void void
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🥺

spiral sparrow
void void
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meanwhile, me being a chad:

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sounds dum

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wanna see my master creation of an environment, mikro 😳

void void
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yes

ancient bolt
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mfw the heap dump I opened in yourkit caused yourkit to die

void void
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show your dots

true canyon
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mikro wouldn't that be emacth

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spiral sparrow
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i need i3 dotfiles

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bspwm looks too hard

void void
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not sure if i get that pun mbax

twin lagoon
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.g i3 dotfiles github

limber knotBOT
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i3 has a manual

twin lagoon
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those are mine ^

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bspwm also has a manual

spiral sparrow
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@lean kiln could i have the dots for your i3

mighty storm
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why does everyone have dotfiles smh

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what are they even used for

twin lagoon
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for rice

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they're the files that define how your system is ran

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they're literally just config files

twin lagoon
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no they're just used for preparing rice

minor badge
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depends on how the author made their repo; popping e.g. fontconfig files for emojis in there, although not necessary for the rice, is still valid

void void
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why does everyone have dotfiles smh
that's what windows user would ask

mighty storm
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i thought you just went to the store and bought rice

lean kiln
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@spiral sparrow its on my github

mighty storm
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luckily im not a windows user

twin lagoon
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well yeah but you gotta spice it up a lil

ashen cliff
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Imagine customizing your operating system.

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imagine being unable to customise it

mighty storm
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i cant, what os is that limited

spiral sparrow
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@lean kiln what is your github

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well

void void
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macos

lean kiln
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right click my name and click profile

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windows, macos

void void
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windows

spiral sparrow
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i cant

mighty storm
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how tf is macos limited, it's unix

spiral sparrow
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im on my phone now

void void
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being an unix does not mean you can customize it

mighty storm
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what cant you customize

void void
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everything

next wind
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macos is really limited

mighty storm
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a*

lean kiln
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my github is jmanpenilla

void void
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you can't replace macos's desktop

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you can't get rid of that dumb dock

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you can't get rid of that dumb top bar

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you can't change shit how you would like

spiral sparrow
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thank you

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yes you can

mighty storm
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what if it is how i like

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lol

void void
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congrats

spiral sparrow
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someone posted a picture of their mac the other day

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then that still isn't customisability?

spiral sparrow
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they changed some things up

mighty storm
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didnt say it was

void void
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being a sheep does not mean everything is fine

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:)

mighty storm
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well duh, all you do is baa and eat grass

void void
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and you're good example

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:p

spiral sparrow
mighty storm
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i dont do either of those

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tf

void void
mighty storm
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huck what did I say about

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linking images and not messages

stray oyster
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Le sigh I want a new PC case. And I kinda want a snowblind element
Anyone know where I can get one

spiral sparrow
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i dont know how to get the message on my phone

stray oyster
twin lagoon
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meshify c

void void
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.g snowblind element

mighty storm
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it's legit right there

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copy message url

limber knotBOT
spiral sparrow
mighty storm
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there ya go!

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now we can see context

next wind
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I thought that person was joking lmao

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looked like some weird version of linux mint

mighty storm
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that actually looks kinda dope

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looks like some weird combo of windows and mac

spiral sparrow
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thx im going to use these @lean kiln

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two bads indeed don't make a good

mighty storm
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did i say it was good or bad?

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just said it looked cool

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smh

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🆗

mighty storm
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yall are SO quick to attack opinions people didnt even make, just the implication and yall in fight mode i dont get it

spiral zinc
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looked like some weird version of linux mint
@next wind mint is but a distro

mighty storm
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i dont think ive ventured off from ubuntu

next wind
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thats its actual name if your saying that calling it linux mint is wrong

spiral zinc
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mint's DE is cinnamon by default

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calling it linux mint is wrong because your desktop can't look like a distro

next wind
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oh alright

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i dont use linux much PepeShrug

spiral zinc
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you can't change shit how you would like
@void void would you be surprised to hear this is macOS:

twin lagoon
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NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
storage-pool 120K 10.5T 32.9K /storage-pool pogPause

spiral zinc
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macos is very customizable

mighty storm
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wtf is that screenshot

spiral zinc
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TWM on mac

mighty storm
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no no

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the top right

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wtf

spiral zinc
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oh I didn't even see that

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you can customize macos, maybe not to the fullest extent as other operating systems buuut

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something is better than nothing :)

olive garden
mighty storm
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even discord knows discord is shady

wide chasm
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Discord is a perfect piece of software with no flaws whatsoever

olive garden
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just like you are a perfect piece of human with no flaws whatsoever

void void
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interesting @spiral zinc

wide chasm
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Indeed

spiral zinc
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Discord is a perfect piece of software with no flaws whatsoever
@wide chasm right :O

olive garden
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tbh your only flaw is being a mod (and maybe not writing enough essays)

wide chasm
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Not enough essays, well that's a new one

void void
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oh SIP has to be disabled for that thing to work

spiral zinc
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isn't it awesome that discord devs think it's fine to ship dev tools and pre-release features in the public stable clients

twin lagoon
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@void void syncoid seems to be from zfs <-> zfs

void void
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yes

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that's correct

twin lagoon
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ok rsnapshot it is

void void
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noob

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zfs-ize everything

twin lagoon
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i'm not going to reinstall 15 debian machines by hand

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through ovh's garbage ipmi

void void
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wtf

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why do you reinstall through the ipmi

twin lagoon
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they don't offer ZFS in their images

void void
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just configure yourself a preseed config

twin lagoon
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lmao

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i don't think you can do that with ovh

void void
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lemme see how that shitfest worked again

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.g debian preseed

limber knotBOT
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olive garden
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How's Shenandoah for MC?

twin lagoon
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oh right like that

void void
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Type "auto url=http://webserver/path/preseed.cfg", replacing the URL with the address to your preseed configuration file

wide chasm
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Don't think anyone has really tried shenandoah

twin lagoon
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i'd still have to use ipmi

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lmao

void void
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yes

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but then you'll have to do less manual stuff

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wow holy shit

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nsfw clearly

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this ran in our tv channel

mighty storm
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👀

void void
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after some shows

mighty storm
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||spoilers||

void void
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9 years ago

mighty storm
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dang actually kinda slaps

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whats on his back

void void
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  1. only estonians 2) how the fuck could those people keep straight faces
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sponsors

olive garden
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are Estonians a fictional race from central New Zealand?

golden gust
spiral sparrow
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hey

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This confuses me

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So

mighty storm
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wtf this is just kattis

spiral sparrow
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if 3 + 4 is greater than 5, it returns YES?

mighty storm
#

i leanred that stuff in geometry

#

i even wrote a program for it on my calc

spiral sparrow
#

im just like a little confused on what it means

wide chasm
#

You simply have to do the checks given to you.

spiral sparrow
#

what are those

mighty storm
#
0→D
Disp "ENTER POINTS
Input A
Input B
Input C
If A+B>C
D+1→D
If B+C>A
D+1→D
If A+C>B
D+1→D
If D=3
Then
Disp "IT'S A TRIANGLE
Else
Disp "NOT A TRIANGLE```
#

have fun

wide chasm
#

Look at the lines it gives you: A + B > C; A + C > B; B + C > A

mighty storm
#

(Basically, they all need to be true)

wide chasm
#

Oh TI-Basic.

#

Another calculator programmer 🙂

spiral sparrow
#

like this

#
  public static void main(String[] args) {
        Scanner scanner = new Scanner(System.in);

        boolean check = false;

        int a = scanner.nextInt();
        int b = scanner.nextInt();
        int c = scanner.nextInt();

        if (a + b > c) check = true;
        if (a + c > b) check = true;
        if (b + c > a) check = true;

        if (check) {
            System.out.println("YES");
        } else {
            System.out.println("NO");
        }
    }
wide chasm
#

Yeah, I think that should work

spiral sparrow
#

Failed test #6 of 12. Wrong answer

olive garden
#

he is doing anyMatch instead of allMatch

spiral sparrow
#

who

wide chasm
#

You

spice finch
#

yeah that'll just check if any of these is true

spiral sparrow
#

all of them need to be?

spice finch
#

yes

wide chasm
#

Yes

mighty storm
#

wait, no, that wont work

#

needs to all be true yes

#

see what I did

wide chasm
#

You can simply combine the statements into one with &&.

spiral sparrow
#

yup

wide chasm
#

Then you also avoid auxiliary variables

olive garden
#

the task you posted literally said that all three need to be true...

spiral sparrow
#

i did that i'm compiling it

mighty storm
#

if (a+b>c&&a+c>b&&b+c>a)

waxen panther
#

Bruh

wide chasm
#

(Not that those are necessarily bad)

spiral sparrow
#

well i was confused by what the task meant

#

ok i got it correct

#

yay

#

Wow! This problem is kind of tricky. If you're ready to put your thinking cap on, brace yourself and good luck! Otherwise, you can skip it for now and return any time later

#

oh no

mighty storm
wide chasm
#

Well, good luck

spiral sparrow
mighty storm
#

yeah this is legit just kattis

#

wtf

spiral sparrow
#

There is special place in hell for the person who worded this assignment

wide chasm
#

The wording is usually questionable, although it's not as bad as I've seen

spiral sparrow
#

idk ill skip this one for now

wide chasm
#

I don't think it is that difficult, though

#

Given an NxM bar, you'll always break it into a number of pieces that is divisible by either N or M and which doesn't exceed N * M.

mighty storm
#

no it's jetbraind acadmey

wide chasm
#

They have CS related subjects though

mighty storm
#

it's basically a cs class taught by jb

grand pewter
#

you guys are doing kattis problems?

wide chasm
#

Reasonably far

#

It doesn't cover everything a normal CS course would give though

grand pewter
#

well i mean why would jetbrains academy be anything else than a cs kinda thing

#

learning programming languages doesn't get you that far if you don't know how to think about algorithms

wide chasm
#

It teaches algorithms though 🙂

grand pewter
#

yeah thats good though

wide chasm
#

Along with way too much math

grand pewter
#

x=x+1

olive garden
#

hwo can you say that stef?

vernal moth
#

My sister started to link me insta programming memes

olive garden
#

you disappoint me

vernal moth
#

Ufff

mighty storm
spiral sparrow
#

man im not that good with math

#

maybe programming isnt for me if i cant think of math like that

vernal moth
#

Don't need math for programming

wide chasm
#

I mean, I didn't necessarily dislike the math, but some questions I really didn't feel like doing

vernal moth
#

Unless you wanna do game dev

spiral sparrow
#

just software engineering

#

i want to work for mineplex 😄

grand pewter
#

the math you using in programming usually isnt too complicated

vernal moth
#

Uni will require math tho

grand pewter
#

depends on the application

wide chasm
#

Boolean algebra and set theory is easy though

spiral sparrow
#

arent you in high school right now zbk

#

stef im ok with the booleans and stuff

vernal moth
#

I failed linear algebra 1 and 2 😂

wide chasm
#

Don't need dumb numbers for boolean algebra 🙂

vernal moth
#

In fact, I failed every math exam at uni 😂 😂

#

Multiple times even

spiral sparrow
#

like this

#
  if (n % 4 == 0 && n % 100 != 0 || n % 400 == 0) {
            System.out.println("Leap");
        } else {
            System.out.println("Regular");
        }
    }
vernal moth
#

I still got my bachelor so get fucked

spiral sparrow
#

i found the answer in the comments of the course

#

otherwise i would have had no idea how to do this

olive garden
#

Don't need math for programming

In fact, I failed every math exam at uni 😂 😂

wide chasm
#

I have applied a karnaugh map to my code once and then realised that my code is then way too complex.

olive garden
#

coincidence?

vernal moth
#

Hey, I passed eventually

olive garden
#

good job

#

if I fail anything, it's probably gonna be math too

spiral sparrow
#

what time is it est?

wide chasm
#

I almost failed History of Science lol

mighty storm
vernal moth
#

History of science sounds like something unnessasary

grand pewter
#

lol

spiral sparrow
#
result = condition ? trueCase : elseCase;
wide chasm
#

I get why they teach it, it's just not anything you're really gonna use afterward.

spiral sparrow
#

for ternary operator

#

so this means

#

the condition is like

olive garden
#

possible boolean values: "true", "else"

spiral sparrow
#

ill write an example i guess

wide chasm
#

The book for History of Science is the one I got furthest in though

#

Yes

spiral sparrow
#

ah ok

#

i get it

grand pewter
#
result = condition ? 1 : 2```
=
```java
if (condition) {
    result = 1;
} else {
    result = 2;
}```
#

if that helps huck 😛

spiral sparrow
#

pop how did you learn java

#

and yes that does

quasi valley
#

pop doesn't know java

grand pewter
#

nope

#

i just guess and it compiles

#

😂

mighty storm
#

ius that not how youre supposed to do it?

wide chasm
#

Pray the bugs away

spiral sparrow
#
    public static void main(String[] args) {
        // result = condition ? trueCase : elseCase;

        Scanner scanner = new Scanner(System.in);
        int n = scanner.nextInt();

        System.out.println(n % 2 == 0 ? "even" : "odd");
    }
mighty storm
#

I just surround my entire code with try catch ignored

#

exceptions are gone 🦀

spiral sparrow
#

returns whether the given number is even if true

wide chasm
#

Yup

#

Depends on the languages, but for the vast majority, yes

spiral sparrow
#

alright i'll practice it

#

so is that what this is teaching me

#

the fundamentals of programming

wide chasm
#

Yes, learning Java will also get you the fundamentals of programming in general.

#

The stuff you'll learn - working with numbers, strings, conditionals, looping structures, etc. - are present in most languages.

mighty storm
#

oh god remember when twitter pfps were square

spiral sparrow
#

im learning

#

i used to read these things in code on github all the time not knowing what was going on

wide chasm
#

Well, then now you know

mighty storm
olive garden
#

stepping though other peoples projects and trying to get a sense of what's going on is also a good way to pick up some new concepts
and it's a good way to get headaches if you get paid for it

wide chasm
#

I step through code all the time, yet sadly most of the time it's my code.

olive marlin
#

If you know basics - looking through other's code (especially "popular" one), will teach you a lot.

golden gust
#

as I said, most of it's down to experience and learning how to look stuff up

#

The concepts of OOP, etc, are pretty trivial, for example

#

Learning the design patters is where the hell is

wide chasm
#

Theoretical computer science is easier than practical software engineering 😉

#

Which is why I prefer complaining about other people's bad code than writing good code myself

golden gust
#

explains a lot

wide chasm
#

I mean, computer science without software engineering is eh maybe not really useful, but who cares

left swift
#

Computers are fake news

golden gust
#

it really depends on what you wanna learn

#

majority of devs really don't care what happens in the tools they use

#

e.g. you don't see me running over nettys code unless I'm tryna look at something

#

most devs don't know or care how a hashmap works beyond maybe understanding the concept of buckets

#

as well as being able to recite meaningless O notation in some cases

wide chasm
#

I'm very good at reciting O notation

golden gust
#

fuq ur O notation

wide chasm
#

Fine, I'll use big theta then, more useful anyway

golden gust
#

MaPs aRe O(1)

stiff yarrow
#

Learning the design patters is where the hell is
@golden gust honestly I think learning design patterns isn't the hell, it takes a long time for your brain to get used to thinking like a programmer when you are new to it, learning design patterns is much less work

wide chasm
#

Applying them correctly, though

#

My god

stiff yarrow
#

most devs don't know or care how a hashmap works beyond maybe understanding the concept of buckets
@golden gust oh god I hope not

golden gust
#

it's more the design patterns and how they work around other code

wide chasm
#

I can guarantee you that 99% of devs in here don't apply PECS properly

golden gust
#

The thing is that it's heavily all down to experience

stiff yarrow
#

.g PECS

limber knotBOT
wide chasm
#

Producer extends; consumer super

#

Related to the specification of generics on methods

golden gust
#

what's generics?

wide chasm
#

I.e., when do I use <?>, when <? extends something>, <? super something> and <something>.

#

Generics are nice, it just takes a lot of effort to make it work nicely

stiff yarrow
#

in the case of Java I'd recommend Effective Java for anyone who wants to learn some good best practices for the language

spiral sparrow
#

would it be bad to also start the pythohn jetbrains course and do both of them?

wide chasm
#

Don't see why not

spiral sparrow
#

should i focus on getting java out of the way

#

cause i notice python would take like less than half of the time

next wind
#

Do what you think would be more fun

wide chasm
#

Pretty sure Python course is also shorter though

golden gust
#

python ain't really an OOP language iirc

wide chasm
#

As in, contents, not how much there is to learn

stiff yarrow
#

when I tried to learn Python before I knew Java (or programming for that matter) I routinely got bored

#

Java I found much less boring to learn

golden gust
#

python is just overly pedantic and most of it's remembering oddball ways of how to express stuff

stiff yarrow
#

Generics are useful when you are creating systems/frameworks

golden gust
#

Like, maybe if you're using python often it's okay, but, yaml based programming, bleh

#

runs

wide chasm
#

I use generics from time to time, just have to notice a spot they can fit in nicely.

stiff yarrow
#

Generics are basically essential when doing abstraction

spiral zinc
#

Nossr

wide chasm
#

As in, my own custom generics; as for generics on pre-exisiting methods and classes, all the time

spiral zinc
#

Ps5 event starting in 10 minutes btw

#

Are you watching it as it's being streamed or later

stiff yarrow
#

idk press events are always kind of boring

#

even if I want the thing they go on too long

#

and are paced too slowly

spiral zinc
#

the last showcase they had was the first time I've ever watched one of these things live, it was meh

stiff yarrow
#

I am worried I'll miss the ps5 pre order window

spiral zinc
#

maybe

#

pre orders will definitely go quick

stiff yarrow
#

imagine missing the pre order window

#

you wouldn't have a ps5 for like a year

#

thanks covid19

spiral zinc
#

I remember the 2TB pro sold out literally instantly

#

there were only like 50k units tho

stiff yarrow
#

every single time I go to target for the last 4 months, every console is sold out, at first it was just switch due to animal crossing, but now its all of them

spiral zinc
#

idek if i'm going to pre-order honestly, i was thinking about waiting a week or so after release

void void
astral cipher
#

Would there be any point in applying for Discord server verification for the official discord server of ur minecraft server?

spiral zinc
#

I'm just hoping sony gives us a little look at the interface

stiff yarrow
#

idc about the interface

spiral zinc
#

apparently its supposed to be a complete overhaul of ps4 ui

stiff yarrow
#

all I care about is that its the next playstation and all I do is play console games after work lately

astral cipher
#

u guys talking about PlayStation? The live event about to start in 6 mins

spiral zinc
#

11:30am - While there have been concerns that PS5 stock could be limited at launch, Sony has shot down rumors of possible console shortages.

void void
#

pc only only noobs pay to play online

stiff yarrow
#

thats out of context

spiral zinc
#

i'm generally pc master race but

#

i do buy consoles for exclusives

stiff yarrow
#

they shot down rumors of production having issues

#

not console shortages

#

there will be console shortages since everyone is gonna buy that shit

spiral zinc
#

I improperly quoted that

limber knotBOT
#

PS5 is the only thing worth buying seeing as there wont be any xbox exclusives anymore xD

spiral zinc
#

same site says right below:

#

However, Sony has explicitly denied the report, telling GamesIndustry.biz that "We have not changed the production number for PlayStation 5 since the start of mass production."

#

yeah I purchased the XB1 for basically nothing

#

I don't know one game I've played on it honestly, I've been using it for kodi lol

stiff yarrow
#

my opinion on xbox:

xbox current gen: don't care about it, it has nothing I want exclusive game wise
xbox series x: haven't seen a reason to get one yet, that could change but right now ps5 has my hype

spiral zinc
#

yep

limber knotBOT
#

all xbox titles will be on PC anyways so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

stiff yarrow
#

ps4: tons of great exclusives

#

switch: tons of great exclusives

spiral zinc
#

I wonder if we'll see gow this showcase...

#

here's to hoping

void void
#

no halo 6 for xbox

#

at launch

stiff yarrow
#

the only thing had

#

derp

#

the only bad thing I can say about ps4 is dual shock 3 was better due to battery life LUL

#

DS4 battery life is so weak comparitively

astral cipher
#

agreed

stiff yarrow
#

I use a DS3 for my PC controller, DS4 battery ain't worth it

golden gust
#

My flatmates PS4 controllers died daily, which, erm...

limber knotBOT
#

DS4 feels better than DS3 imo ¯_(ツ)_/¯

stiff yarrow
#

getting used to typing on this slate known as the macbook pro kb is tough

#

@golden gust after gaming for a few hours from full battery the thing is practically dead, I hate it

golden gust
#

I've never been a console person, and it generally lasts long enough for the day that you can shove it on charge when you go to bed, if you forget, it'll list a little bit longer but generally will need to be plugged in before lunch

stiff yarrow
#

DS3 battery life was like 20 hours at least (my biased memory of it)

limber knotBOT
#

but I'm still annoyed that all the controllers are so small xD my old Saitek P2600 felt a lot better

stiff yarrow
#

you know phoenix thats something no one talks about

#

they make one controller size

#

original xbox had a big contorller and later a smaller one

#

that was nice to have the choice

#

in ps1/2/3/4 its one size fits all except it doesn't

golden gust
#

Gotta save on plastic

#

sony doing their part for global warming

limber knotBOT
#

that's like the only good thing about the Steam Controller: it's size and how it lies in the hand. all the rest is okay or just meh unfortunately

stiff yarrow
#

tbh I didn't like the steam controller outside of Visual Novels

#

I don't even know why I liked it for visual novels anymore it was so long ago

limber knotBOT
#

I play adventure games with it xD

#

used to play Rocket League and all the rest too before I got the DS4 to get a proper d-pad + triggers

stiff yarrow
#

wheres the sony press conference happening

spiral zinc
#

its starting now on twitch

limber knotBOT
#

still miss the back pads of the steam controller though :S

stiff yarrow
#

tbh the xbox 360 had a great analog stick setup

golden gust
#

See, my first machine with dual sticks was a PS1, and pretty sure that it was only a later controller that actually got them?

#

So, many games at that point wouldn't work with the left thumbpad for some stuff, so, the xbox setup looked really dumb to me

stiff yarrow
#

I love that I can watch all this stuff on my tv

#

modern TVs are great

golden gust
#

But, then I noticed how every game picked it up at some point, so, i can see how their setup would be nicer

stiff yarrow
#

@golden gust yeah original ps1 controllers didn't have them

spiral zinc
#

wait

#

is this ffxvi

limber knotBOT
#

I mean, I watched this kind of stuff on my 15 year old trinitron xD

#

just takes a couple of converters to get from HDMI to Scart 👀

stiff yarrow
#

lol the chat is on by default on the twitch app

limber knotBOT
#

so is there a "PS5 Digital" price yet or are they going to say it here?

spiral zinc
#

they may

#

they may not

stiff yarrow
#

the life boys

spiral zinc
#

i'm leaning towards they'll probably announce it at the end

#

yeah this is some sort of final fantasy

#

it looks ok

stiff yarrow
#

FF15 was okay

spiral zinc
#

i was never big on final fantasy but yeah i did play xv

#

i enjoyed it

stiff yarrow
#

FF15 had the same problem MGSV had

spiral zinc
#

oooh XVI

#

I knew it

stiff yarrow
#

yeah that trailer was kind of a tease

#

no substance

limber knotBOT
#

that looks like a very weird version of Mixer

spiral zinc
#

nah that was a lot of substance for FF I think

limber knotBOT
spiral zinc
#

i hope we see some cgi trailers for gow

#

oh shit

#

spiderman

stiff yarrow
#

was spiderman on ps4 good haven't gotten to it yet

spiral zinc
#

was great

#

one of the best spiderman stories ever imo

#

I hope rockstar announces something cool this event

stiff yarrow
#

my fav spiderman game (keep in mind haven't played the ps4 one yet) was spiderman 2 on ps2 (the one where you could play green goblin after beating it or w/e )

spiral zinc
#

oh yeah i remember that one

#

i think my favorite after the ps4 game is web of shadows

stiff yarrow
#

is this the kid from that 3d spider man movie

fallen oracle
#

This new Spiderman game looks really nice.

spiral zinc
#

into the spider verse yeah

stiff yarrow
#

that movie was great

spiral zinc
#

I didn't really watch it up until this game was teased

#

just to get caught up on the story of miles

stiff yarrow
#

is this the same universe? do we get anime spider girl and noir spider dude?

spiral zinc
#

no

#

it's in the same universe as spiderman ps4

stiff yarrow
#

I'm assuming miles has his own comics

spiral zinc
#

small ass font "also available on pc"

#

for the ffxvi trailer

limber knotBOT
#

I mean it says "console exclusive" not "exclusive" 👀

stiff yarrow
#

is this stream 5.1

spiral zinc
#

can we please just skip the spider man game play

stiff yarrow
#

I like the lack of dudes talking so far and just showing game stuff

spiral zinc
#

i mean i'm excited and all but it literally looks like ps4 with some extra mechanics that we can always be introduced to later

#

combat looks exactly alike the og game just with miles moves

limber knotBOT
#

lmao

#

why si that so high quality

spiral zinc
#

harry potter game

#

oh yeah this is the RPG that was leaked years ago lmao

limber knotBOT
#

wasnt there supposed to be some pokemon go style harry potter thing

stiff yarrow
#

what studio is making this

spiral zinc
#

i don't know but this is not this

#

uhh

#

warner bros

limber knotBOT
#

as long as jk is nowhere near that game we goo

stiff yarrow
#

lets not open that bag of worms LUL

limber knotBOT
#

I mean she gets money from it so...

spiral zinc
#

this is like wizard101 but with rtx

limber knotBOT
#

LMAO

fallen oracle
#

LOL

stiff yarrow
#

so is this harry potter dark souls Kappa

#

they better be like "you can pre order now" at some point

#

so I can delete 500+ USD from my bank account

limber knotBOT
#

my bank account is glad that I don't do any console stuff, lmao

spiral zinc
#

there are rumors that the digital edition may be like...$300s range

#

i truly doubt that though

stiff yarrow
#

eh its cheaper than building a PC

mighty storm
#

almost done :3

limber knotBOT
#

if they make it 299 too then they win

spiral zinc
#

less opportunistic than building a PC too

#

what is this? black ops cold war?

limber knotBOT
#

I never built a new PC, I only ever upgraded ;)

spiral zinc
#

i timed out for like 3 seconds

stiff yarrow
#

with that said I'm about to build a PC for my living room so I can replay Underrail

#

the one thing I literally don't care about on consoles

#

shootan games

limber knotBOT
#

imagine playing a shooter with autoaim smh

stiff yarrow
#

imagine stabbing a guy in the neck and not being sure if he was dead so you headshot him

#

waste of ammo

#

is this call of booty

spiral zinc
#

yeah this is the new cod

stiff yarrow
#

watch none of these games look this good at launch

limber knotBOT
#

I mean, even this trailler doesn't look "good" imo

spiral zinc
#

this is new gen

#

it better look good

slim nymph
#

@spiral zinc no way it can be lol

stiff yarrow
#

I can't remember the last time I saw a game trailer at a press conference reflect graphics at launch

slim nymph
#

the drive is like 40$, so for PS to even sell at 400$ is a loss

spiral zinc
#

that was actual gameplay footage

stiff yarrow
#

what drive

spiral zinc
#

the ssd

slim nymph
#

the blueray in consoles

fallen oracle
stiff yarrow
#

"actual gameplay running n high end PCs" is usually what they mean by that

spiral zinc
#

sometimes game trailers isnt actually gameplay footage but thats usually clarified

stiff yarrow
#

with that said the COD trailer didn't look that visually impressive so its likely to look like that at launch

spiral zinc
#

@spiral zinc no way it can be lol
@slim nymph yeah I didn't really think so, it was just a quickly spreading rumor

potent fossil
#

wizard 101 was hands down THE jam to play when i was younger

spiral zinc
#

there was some leaked MP player of this CoD going around

stiff yarrow
#

do we know if kojima is making anything atm

spiral zinc
#

it looked absolutely terrible

#

but that was alpha footage soo

#

oh shit, capcom

slim nymph
#

ps can potentially gamble the loss of money on a 400 price tag in how itll make up for it in store sales

spiral zinc
#

is this resident evil or silent hill

slim nymph
#

but PS doesnt have the same winner MS does, game pass

stiff yarrow
#

resident wiccans

slim nymph
#

MS gets gamepass + online play + store sales on Series S

fallen oracle
#

Watch this just be a huge lead-up to a new Bejeweled.

stiff yarrow
#

what is game pass

slim nymph
#

netflix on crack for games

#

how do you not know about this

spiral zinc
#

coraline 2021

slim nymph
#

its even on PC too for 10/mo

stiff yarrow
#

can't even tell what kind of game this is

spiral zinc
#

new RE

slim nymph
#

what yall watching

spiral zinc
#

playstation showcase!

limber knotBOT
#

I mean new RE isn't new lol

stiff yarrow
#

I haven't been following MS stuff, I am waiting for a good reason to

twin lagoon
#

playstation zzzzzzzzzz

stiff yarrow
#

another shooter 💤

twin lagoon
#

fucking ugly space station looking ass console

stiff yarrow
#

timedongers 4?

limber knotBOT
#

this game might actually be good depending on the gameplay quality, lol

spiral zinc
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i'm just here to see whether or not rockstar releases anything or somethihng gow related gets teased

limber knotBOT
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concept is interesting at least

stiff yarrow
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is this timesplitters or wut

slim nymph
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these graphics look like current gen lol

fallen oracle
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GTA 6 when

spiral zinc
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is this fucking team fortress

stiff yarrow
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this is giving me time splitter vibes

spiral zinc
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scout from tf2

stiff yarrow
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shooters in a press conference

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yawn

potent fossil
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tf are yall talking about

spiral zinc
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Ps5 showcase

stiff yarrow
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sony conference

potent fossil
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o

stiff yarrow
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idk this game looks 6/10 to me

slim nymph
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graphics looked current gen

potent fossil
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371k viewers

spiral zinc
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tbf i wasn't really paying attention

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it looked very unappealing

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yep and that's just on twitch

limber knotBOT
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caring about graphics on a console... thonk

slim nymph
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console does pretty damn good graphics

spiral zinc
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There's like 300k watching on IGN's mirror stream of it, and like

stiff yarrow
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DMC?

spiral zinc
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1M people watching the sony stream on YT

stiff yarrow
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ah yiss

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finally a good game

spiral zinc
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and there's like, probably more watching from the sony site

limber knotBOT
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compared to a couple grand gaming PC consoles can't do shit 👀

spiral zinc
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oh, devil may cry

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cool

stiff yarrow
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vergil confirmed

spiral zinc
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the new batman game looks meh

slim nymph
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yes, and you can spend 3k on minor upgrades all you want

stiff yarrow
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remember the awkward fake coop in dmc5 I member

spiral zinc
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idrc if they show any more of it here

slim nymph
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ill spend 500 and get really damn good smooth gameplay and be totally happy

stiff yarrow
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^ same

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I'm most hyped about better frame rates this gen

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than graphics

slim nymph
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and xbox's specs are amazing too

spiral zinc
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Isn't ps5 supposed to be able to do 4k120 or something

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Yep, 8k60, 4k120

stiff yarrow
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I'd take fps above 60 over 4k gameplay tbh

slim nymph
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well so far Resident Evil is strugling onPS5

potent fossil
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are they just showing games or is there anything else on this stream

spiral zinc
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we don't know yet

limber knotBOT
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4k 120 fps doesn't matter much if the games don't utilize it

spiral zinc
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it's just some games right now

stiff yarrow
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so far its a game trailer montage

spiral zinc
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i hope later down in the showcase they at least show the UI or something

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right but games have had the devkit and the plans for this console for a long time, if they can optimize it to run 4k120 they would

ashen cliff
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I don't see why they couldn't upgrade the output on the PS5 with a firmware update.

stiff yarrow
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why does the UI matter so much to ye

ashen cliff
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The PS4 has a internal DisplayPort to HDMI converter, despite having a native DP.

spiral zinc
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i dunno

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i'm just excited to see what they have in store for this gen

stiff yarrow
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the only reason I'm watching this conference is to hear them talk about pre orders

ashen cliff
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I'm super excited for the PS5 running Linux... That would actually be epic.

spiral zinc
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xsx ui looks the same as the old one, it's just more flat

slim nymph
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im a fan of MS's consumer friendly focus.

stiff yarrow
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ps3 used to be able to run linux until sony patched it out

slim nymph
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wel xbox is trying to strengthen unity of the ecosystem

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they just basically delivered the next gen opts to Xbox one too

ashen cliff
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PS4 can do it with a Jailbreak. I assume PS5 will have the same issue after some time.

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I'm legit thinking about buying it day 0 and not updating it.

spiral zinc
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five nights at freddys

stiff yarrow
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has there ever been a conference that wasn't boring

fallen oracle
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Is it?

spiral zinc
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lmao

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I was joking about that...

stiff yarrow
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FNAF rpg was dope if you guys haven't played it

spiral zinc
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it actually was fnaf lmao

fallen oracle
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Oh dear lord

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It is

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Now you can crap yourself in 8K!