OpenZFS 3.0 will hopefully see official macOS support.
#general
void void
twin lagoon
there's also one for windows
void void
this works good enough already that i could install mojave on it natively
twin lagoon
can you change ZFS compression with ease?
twin lagoon
warm anchor
olive marlin
So much just to get uwu translator: https://gitlab.com/nitsuga5124/robo-arc/-/blob/master/src/commands/fun.rs#L617
olive marlin
Yeah. Looking at it makes my brain melt.
potent fossil
twin lagoon
never had any issues with gimp or glimpse
void void
removed white background from my pepe pfp moments ago
one click with fuzzy select
delete
and that was it
ashen cliff
twin lagoon
but why
vestal jasper
I'm now convinced discord intentionally bricks mobile when it's out of date
cosmic raft
compile libc using that prof
vestal jasper
the app will work perfectly fine until there's an update, and then suddenly things stop working
one day I can send images through the app perfectly fine, the next day it won't even try. I update the app? I can send images perfectly fine
void void
compiling musl libc using one liner
ez
git clone git://git.musl-libc.org/musl && cd musl && ./configure && make -j16
ashen cliff
Sad. No C compiler.
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://proot-me.github.io/ -- PRoot โ chroot, mount --bind, and binfmt_misc without...: "PRoot is a user-space implementation of chroot, mount --bind, and binfmt_misc. This means that users don't need any privileges or setup to do things..."
twin lagoon
https://owo.whats-th.is/6Xp3x6x.png i don't understand how people praise new york times for quality articles
can you just not block viewing
cosmic raft
lol
golden gust
there is an extention for that
vernal moth
Well, nothing stops you from documenting it ;)
ashen cliff
SS13 packets 
worn ember
should a config handler just return the strings from the config? Or is returning components ok to do?
or should that be done somewhere else
vernal moth
I would argue type checking and conversion is the job of the config handler
worn ember
Alright thanks
worn ember
honestly give 0 shits lol
glad narwhal
um... meaning?
worn ember
meaning i dont care
glad narwhal
ok
worn ember
its for bedrock anyway
void void
glad narwhal
but what about their renderdragon?
glad narwhal
it's like ender dragon which rendering their bedrock thing but renderdragon
ashen cliff
Dammit. Jay, 1 minute early: https://posili.me/i/2020-09-16_14-59-34.png
twin lagoon
ashen cliff
The one I needed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTeXh9x0sUc
ashen cliff
glad narwhal
i just found out that, as i understood, aetherengine is library which can distribute loading across cpu
worn ember
so how much is that card?
ashen cliff
Too much.
ashen cliff
I'll buy it for 100โฌ. Just have to wait 2 years or for them to start breaking quickly.
Thank you 2080 Ti.
twin lagoon
@worn ember 700 eur
worn ember
yeah nope
peak dirge
Well, NVIDIA's still not getting my money.
twin lagoon
they're getting mine for the first time ever
ashen cliff
ARM.
minor badge
hot
worn ember
i'll see what AMD releases
minor badge
michale ๐ฅบ๐ฅบ
twin lagoon
๐ฅบ
vernal moth
are ppl really surprised that the 2x faster than 2080 was just about RTX?
twin lagoon
performance is still nuts
vernal moth
exactly
worn ember
yeah and so is power draw lmao
vernal moth
who cares about power?
twin lagoon
meh
peak dirge
Yeah, and RTX is still pretty much a tech demo. Yeah, Minecraft RTX looks pretty but I don't really care about that when Java Edition will probably never see it?
twin lagoon
power draw isn't too bad
vernal moth
isnt minecraft RTX fully path traced?
vernal moth
vs just light and shadows in other games
cosmic raft
who wants to run me over with their car? <.<
peak dirge
There is nothing in Ampere for Linux users unless you really care about CUDA.
worn ember
i dont want kash blood on my car
ashen cliff
IF this was AyyMD, they would be getting nuked for that power draw.
vernal moth
if you fly over here ill happily volunteer kashike ๐
cosmic raft
my back hurts so much
peak dirge
If you want the fancy RTX shit, you'll need to use the insanely insecure OS produced by Redmond.
limber knotBOT
he's talking about Windows 10 ;)
vernal moth
yes, still is not factual at all
limber knotBOT
at least we have https://ameliorated.info/ now
peak dirge
With forced ads, phone homes, and other problems people have to work around with tools. I prefer to not have to run a debloat tool at all.
limber knotBOT
well calling a system with an inbuilt backdoor "insecure" isn't really non-factual
peak dirge
Even then, it's still a mess.
limber knotBOT
Microsoft can (un)install any kind of software that they want at any time through the updater
twin lagoon
there are ads on pro
cosmic raft
where?
twin lagoon
start menu
cosmic raft
I have not seen ads
limber knotBOT
(and yes, with projects like Ameliorated you can disable that shit)
vernal moth
I dont have ads in my start menu, lol
peak dirge
Also, Windows file system is dog slow for basic development tasks
cosmic raft
me either
peak dirge
WSL2 is a workaround, not a fix.
worn ember
me neither
wide chasm
Pretty sure I removed all that stuff from the start menu
limber knotBOT
any of you guys have the basic home edition? because that would surprise me lmao
wide chasm
It's way too bulky by default anyway
peak dirge
You pretty much say "I give up, NTFS is pepega"
worn ember
where my ads at?
peak dirge
Might as well run Linux
ashen cliff
limber knotBOT
Micorosft Store ๐
void void
skype comes back with every major windows update
vernal moth
new edge is really cool
cosmic raft
I mean
void void
and sets up to start on boot
limber knotBOT
new edge is just chromium
cosmic raft
I use skype
wide chasm
If they could stop pushing it down my throat perhaps
worn ember
it doesnt lol
cosmic raft
so I don't care if it "comes back"
void void
well yes, lucky you
worn ember
it never starts on boot if you disabled it once
vernal moth
Replying to https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/755778403059237037
also cant confirm, lol
cosmic raft
have not seen it re-appear on other machines though
limber knotBOT
I'm pretty sure no Windows 10 behaves the same as another one, they are probably testing shit all the time lmao
twin lagoon
can't confirm wat mikros said either but i disable telemetry so it probably won't show up
there's definitely ads in your default windows 10 install
but you can uninstall most from your start menu
worn ember
ya'll just talking out your ass to bitch about windows lol, sure its not the best but you also try really hard to make it the worst smh
limber knotBOT
I ripped out lots of shit too
void void
i've had this skype shit 9 times on 3 different machines
vernal moth
maybe I disabled the ads in the install menu?
void void
and candy crush etc. coming back
limber knotBOT
thank god I have group policies in pro although they tend to ignore them xD
vernal moth
yeah no candy crush either
worn ember
i did run a debloat script at some point
vernal moth
do you have an OEM install of windows?
worn ember
but after that its all good
twin lagoon
no you can't disable ads in the install menu
void void
no
twin lagoon
the only thing i'd think of germany's laws
there's 100% ads in the windows 10 pro install
you can literally download the iso, install it in a vm
they're there
worn ember
????
void void
i nuke OEM installations
worn ember
wat
vernal moth
this install is from december last year and I didnt run any debloat or stuff
void void
because they're overly bloated
cosmic raft
so, anyone want to show what ads you are talking about
twin lagoon
OEM installations i'd nuke too
cosmic raft
still have not seen a picture
worn ember
yes plz show ads
twin lagoon
candy crush
wide chasm
Pretty sure there were panels in the start menu with some apps on there that I hadn't installed, but I removed all those panels from the start menu
void void
candy crush comes with stock install already
peak dirge
Also, remember to update and get your data nuked!
worn ember
damn i play a lot of ads
void void
and comes back with every update >_>
limber knotBOT
how do you download the iso? lol
twin lagoon
limber knotBOT
their website is only offering me an exe
twin lagoon
.g microsoft windows 10 iso
limber knotBOT
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twin lagoon
on windows it defaults to an installer
with a linux useragent you get the direct download
cosmic raft
never seen that "suggested" thing appear before michael
void void
how do you download the iso? lol
just download it from MS site?
limber knotBOT
yeah, that's where the exe is from Micheal
twin lagoon
yes
limber knotBOT
wtf, lol
warm anchor
Wow Michael getting free Microsoft games
ashen cliff
You need Windows, to get Windows.
worn ember
i mean, its just a matter of running a debloat tool, not like you dont need to run 50 scripts on linux to get it remotely working
vernal moth
I would guess its auto disabled or I disabled it in setup
twin lagoon
you shouldn't have to run a debloat tool
nor do you run 50 scripts on linux
nor can you disable it in setup
limber knotBOT
running linux without any extra programs
twin lagoon
ubuntu is aids though
cosmic raft
don't see people complaining about them
twin lagoon
twin lagoon
ubuntu spinoffs are fine
worn ember
yall just hypocrite at this point
twin lagoon
ubuntu itself is dumb
warm anchor
Lol
cosmic raft
it literally does
* Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com
* Management: https://landscape.canonical.com
* Support: https://ubuntu.com/advantage
* Kubernetes 1.19 is out! Get it in one command with:
sudo snap install microk8s --channel=1.19 --classic
https://microk8s.io/ has docs and details.
* Canonical Livepatch is available for installation.
- Reduce system reboots and improve kernel security. Activate at:
https://ubuntu.com/livepatch
Replying to https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/755779544589271173
its not really a surprise, this is how it always ends
twin lagoon
that's literally the reason i shit on ubuntu
vernal moth
snap ๐
warm anchor
Wait they do that on man page? Or
twin lagoon
ubuntu's ads & bloatware are disgusting
vernal moth
go tell me that snap isnt equally dum than the windows store
twin lagoon
no that's just on shell
cosmic raft
yea I have no idea what snap is
twin lagoon
snap is worse than windows store
cosmic raft
guess they got rid of apt or something
twin lagoon
partially
worn ember
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
vernal moth
they wish they could
twin lagoon
certain things install on snap through apt
limber knotBOT
isn't snap just self-contained executables?
vernal moth
kinda
vernal moth
its a special format, with isolation or smth
ashen cliff
Did they add old version cleanup to snap yet?
twin lagoon
and because it's a canonical thing they push it on everything
certain apps on their desktop version install as snap
limber knotBOT
imagine programs being properly isolated by default, smh
worn ember
first mistake lul
cosmic raft
on the "Your projects" overview
I have access to a repo I am apparently not even a member of
and the repo is private
limber knotBOT
if you don't build your own system from the kernel up then don't even talk to me
runs
cosmic raft
https://gitlab.com/redacted/redacted/-/project_members shows one person, the owner
not me
wide chasm
Knowing you phoenix I wouldn't be surprised.
twin lagoon
accurate
limber knotBOT
check it out while it's still hot ;D
worn ember
who wants to talk to you anyway ๐
cosmic raft
anyone else here have a gitlab account?
worn ember
i do
twin lagoon
i do aswell
worn ember
but i dont have anything like that
limber knotBOT
who doesn't?
wide chasm
I don't, never used GitLab
twin lagoon
gitlab is great
limber knotBOT
it's pretty cool if you don't expect the same interface as github lol
worn ember
meh i prefer github over gitlab tbh
limber knotBOT
feature-wise it's what github is trying to copy right now, lol
vernal moth
I wouldnt be surprised if drop table hosting screws up stuff
I have a gitlab account too and would volunteer testing stuff ๐
vernal moth
gitlab the software is great, gitlab.com the site is meh
nope
wait, lemme check if am logged in
ye I am
worn ember
404
worn ember
maybe they invited you?
cosmic raft
nope
minor badge
kash is actually a GL admin
cosmic raft
I would be listed on that page
worn ember
vernal moth
email gitlab, maybe you get smth ๐
cosmic raft
something here is really screwed
worn ember
potential security issue 
limber knotBOT
good old mkstubs
worn ember
exploit it and sell it for millions to hAxxoRs
worn ember
try deleting the repo
warm anchor
Lmao
nocturne agate
.try
limber knotBOT
nocturne agate
yoink
vernal moth
I tried pushing to the repo, doesnt work ๐
vernal moth
limber knotBOT
vernal moth
that email goes to their zendesk
limber knotBOT
seems like a standard template
twin lagoon
leave it out
limber knotBOT
just state that then ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
ashen cliff
Went to the toilet.
Refreshed the page.
Had access.
cosmic raft
what even would this be?
Information Disclosure?
seems so
heh
just remembered my other security report here
turned out to be a real bug :D
raw trout
wait how do I delete my oracle account?
finite wave
Like that
fallen oracle
Login via Cali (if in the US) and you should be able to request it deleted.
limber knotBOT
or claim you are a EU citizen
worn ember
haha
fallen oracle
Pretty sure the law is only in Cali.
worn ember
imagine not having GDPR
cosmic raft
I mean the nice thing is
because of GDPR, lots of sites just enabled data downloading and account deleting for everyone
not checking IPs/etc
worn ember
then there's oracle
limber knotBOT
lots of sites also just block EU IPs lmao
worn ember
i havent had any site block me
vernal moth
yeah, I would expect everyone to just give everyone that right, lol
limber knotBOT
(mostly only click bait sites so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ)
vernal moth
and I havent been blocked before either
cosmic raft
I know one person who was, but it was temporary until they got proper things setup
which, is the right thing to do really
it sucks, but
worn ember
i suppose
limber knotBOT
the most annoying pages are the ones that redirect you to google when you reject their tracking -.-
worn ember
but they had plenty of time beforehand to implement it
limber knotBOT
(which is a GDPR violation in itself xD)
fallen oracle
I don't think I've ever seen that.
limber knotBOT
well I don't see it on desktop either (due to uBo blocking all of these notices) but on mobile I always make it a point to try to reject everything
fallen oracle
Yeah I run pihole+ UBO
limber knotBOT
I have a pretty long list of sites that violate the gdpr with improper rejections (or at least used to violate it I guess)
one of them apparently was amd.com ๐
worn ember
๐
peak dirge
NVIDIA's Arm deal is already beginning to go south https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/15/cambridge-staff-fobbed-off-at-meeting-over-softbank-arm-sale-to-nvidia-union
And we haven't seen what China will do
I find it very likely China will intervene. Arm is a big player in the Chinese market too, and given current US-China tension, I'm pretty sure the sale would get blocked by Chinese regulators.
In the end, perhaps the best option for SoftBank if that happens is to do an IPO for Arm, perhaps selling stakes to the UK government.
cosmic raft
lol nvidia is trying to buy arm?
peak dirge
yes
there is a reason, of course
SoftBank has had some pretty big investment duds (WeWork for instance) and Arm is their crown jewel. Selling it to NVIDIA will inject SoftBank with lots of money at a time where they need it.
spiral sparrow
twin lagoon
same
quasi valley
same
upper flicker
I'm buying the r๐ฎx cards
spiral sparrow
z750 you use macos right
upper flicker
I use everything
quasi valley
no he used tacOS
latent valve
spiral sparrow
what do you use the most
upper flicker
depends on the project I'm working on. It used to be arch linux, anymore it's pretty much windows, every now and again I'll go primarily macOS
vestal jasper
@spiral sparrow install gentoo
spiral sparrow
oh wow
so do you think umm
you use windows for daily driver
and arch for dev
or is it reverse
upper flicker
whatever I use for dev is my daily
twin lagoon
huck jesus christ use whatever the fuck you want to use
stop asking everyone for their OS
upper flicker
pretty much just gnome yeah
the tiling stuff is fun but I never got settled in one
just needed to get stuff done so boring old gnome it is
solus's DE is pretty nice though too, little rough around the edges
definitely more of a "working" DE rather than a fun one but that's what I need anyway
hey Michael, what OS do you use?
upper flicker
ubuntu lost me when they went full into snap hell
twin lagoon
i use gentoo
upper flicker
guess Im a debian person now
twin lagoon
what os do you guys use @everyone
quasi valley
hey michale, don't steal huck's job
spiral sparrow
z750 how much storage do you have for windows and hhow much for arch
void void
gentoo is ok
twin lagoon
with a tiling wm maybe
void void
michael you nutsack
twin lagoon
building any DE from scratch 
upper flicker
it's like you're asking me a bunch of stuff so you can profile my system and find me
spiral sparrow
oh
upper flicker
1tb for windows, 500G for linux, spinning rust for anything huge
latent valve
Z where u from imma bring u some burito
spiral sparrow
what is spinning rust
peak dirge
Hard drive
next wind
a hard drive lol
spiral sparrow
oh
i was trying to plug drives into my pc for more storeage but i could not find the sata cables to plug in
peak dirge
I'm on my laptop! 250GB for Ubuntu 20.04, a bit less than that for Windoze (I want to wipe this), and spinning rust for "OS random choice of the day" - currently OpenBSD
upper flicker
โค๏ธ openbsd
spiral sparrow
i have two 250gb ssds i wanted to plug into my pc-_-
i need extra sata
or idk what the cable is called
upper flicker
probably sata if youre talking about cables
upper flicker
grats, good time to check your backups
void void
hehe
twin lagoon
z750 what is your social security number
spiral sparrow
z750 what are the specs of your primary pc
twin lagoon
z750 where do you live
peak dirge
I'll probably wipe and replace my current OSes with Fedora or Arch. I've taken a liking to Fedora, but would be just fine using Arch.
upper flicker
peak dirge
besides I heard that if you want to enter the tiling WM master race you need to use Arch 
chrome quest
Z750. Whatโs your Facebook email and password?
void void
z750 what's your dad's second maid's name
quasi valley
facebook 
twin lagoon
z750 what is your email
upper flicker
ryzen 4000, or 5000, or whatever will be rebuild time
4 cores just isn't cutting it, OC'd or no
twin lagoon
eh
upper flicker
It's probably 5-6 years old at this point
twin lagoon
it's pretty old
upper flicker
still does games pretty well with the OC
next wind
its old, but its still not bad
upper flicker
but it really falls down at productivity
peak dirge
went to 3900X, I probably won't have to upgrade for 6-7 years if I play my cards right
spiral sparrow
do you play a lot of games?
upper flicker
not anymore ๐
don't have the time
every now and again though Ill play for a bit
spiral sparrow
college?
upper flicker
just really busy with work
3900x or 3950x equivalent is where I'm aiming
big angry chip that I won't have to upgrade for years
@twin lagoon what was your first pet's name?
peak dirge
Ryzen 3000 is not the best overclocker but it works and has more than enough performance
cosmic raft
uwu Z
twin lagoon
@upper flicker in what hospital were you born
vestal jasper
z750 what's your mother's maiden name?
upper flicker
hmm that would've been a better question for vic I guess
what is that cat's name vic
vestal jasper
this isn't my first cat
ashen cliff
Z can you forward the SMS you just received from Discord?
vestal jasper
I had another cat when I was 7
upper flicker
just tell me his name ๐
vestal jasper
HER name
upper flicker
need to put a name to that adorable face
spiral sparrow
do you use arch for wsl
ashen cliff
Cat (5) (4) (2).jpg
vestal jasper
I'm pretty sure the only service I've used which I selected that question is skype, so enjoy my answer:
My first cat's name was Molly. 
upper flicker
I tried it back on the insider builds of windows but I havent redone it, still just on ubuntu whatever in wsl
next wind
furry? 
upper flicker
for what I do in wsl it doesnt really matter. If I need arch I can just reboot into arch
vestal jasper
nah @static badge is the real furry here
purr just gives me access to #adorable-pets
twin lagoon
twin lagoon
.g windows 10 screenshot
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-screenshot-on-windows -- How to take a screenshot on Windows 10 computers: a guide...: "May 18, 2020 ... Windows 10 provides several ways to take screenshots of your entire computer screen, or just select parts of it. ยท The fastest way..."
vestal jasper
it's fucking windows 10 literally every single win10 install looks the same
twin lagoon
spiral sparrow
everyone is different
vestal jasper
wow that variance! slightly different backgrounds :D
spiral sparrow
yeah but theres moire than that
vestal jasper
ok what is this "more"
spiral sparrow
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.rainmeter.net/ -- Rainmeter, desktop customization tool: "Rainmeter allows you to display customizable skins on your desktop, from hardware usage meters to fully functional audio visualizers. You are only..."
spiral sparrow
twin lagoon
that's not even windows
spiral sparrow
oh
spiral sparrow
ok you may have a point
vestal jasper
pls
spiral sparrow
i just wanted to see z750s though
twin lagoon
@vestal jasper do you mind if i see a screenshot of how your windows 10 looks
vestal jasper
sure
twin lagoon
@quasi valley do you mind if i see a screenshot of how your windows 10 looks
next wind
woah thats so cool
quasi valley
here's even more, but just today! https://i.imgur.com/u2ct0pL.png
next wind
now send a picture of the cpu before you put it in the socket
next wind
yellow
spiral sparrow
do you use w10 or linux now vicarious
vestal jasper
twin lagoon
red makes your code go faster right???
spiral sparrow
oh
quasi valley
oh
vestal jasper
you like my desktop? xoxo
vestal jasper
set to autohide like it fucking should
quasi valley
it's so hot, it has evaporated
next wind
upper flicker
I feel like mine is just not that interesting
quasi valley
I have it on auto-hide on my laptop, but it'd probably be too annoying on my pc
twin lagoon
z750 omg you code so goood
vestal jasper
weeb
twin lagoon
so beautiful
upper flicker
dark
cosmic raft
wheee
next wind
and do you use .net console apps or windows forms?
cosmic raft
have some more aliases I use
next wind
and do you use community or paid version
upper flicker
lol
next wind
whys your firefox blue though
vestal jasper
z750 what's your favourite colour
peak dirge
Developer Edition
quasi valley
I really need a new background
twin lagoon
quasi valley
I have had some 720p one for 5 years now
vestal jasper
quite happy with my background so I think ima keep it for now
twin lagoon
skype is the main communications platform for the paper team
next wind
work?
upper flicker
work still uses Skype for Business
they have teams but havent flipped the switch for calls
spiral sparrow
@twin lagoon do you know if i should do a cloud download or local reinstall to factory reset windows
twin lagoon
do both
spiral sparrow
i can only select 1
twin lagoon
if you do it twice the efficiency of your computer increases
mighty storm
slept for 10 hours and im still tired
tall steppe
downloads from https://papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.16.3/latest/download are super slow for me right now
spiral sparrow
whats the best oe
next wind
or press alt f4 to enable dev mode
spiral sparrow
i wonder how expirenced you need to be to work for linus tech tips
next wind
i wonder how expirenced you need to be to work for linus tech tips
@spiral sparrow you know they hire more than tech people
theyre huge now, its just like any other company
spiral sparrow
who is jake
twin lagoon
jake is the CEO of linus tech tips
spiral sparrow
the jake in this server?
twin lagoon
yes
spiral sparrow
i dont see jake
cosmic raft
clean your eyes and try again
spiral sparrow
oh hes not the ceo
next wind
spiral sparrow
hes a writer lol
cosmic raft
lean kiln
mighty storm
who
vestal jasper
Your request has been successfully submitted. Thank you!
@mighty storm and now I wait
mighty storm
wait for what
vestal jasper
jetbrains open source license 
mighty storm
oh epic
vestal jasper
literally just linked to my jenkins as the project website
mighty storm
what kinda college do you go to that gives you free jetbrains
minor badge
@cosmic raft ๐ฅบ
cosmic raft
what proxi?
olive marlin
I think Jetbrains directly does that.
quasi valley
proxi's just weebing
twilit frigate
hey i have this aspire e5 laptop and i want to host a server on it, what distro should i use?
mighty storm
@minor badge
mighty storm
uh oh
twilit frigate
like ubuntu or just debian
olive marlin
Debian.
twilit frigate
debian server?
twin lagoon
debian server
twilit frigate
does it have the apt install shit
twilit frigate
aight i better start burning the iso onto my drive then
olive marlin
Don't need Ubuntu crap on top of it for servers 99% of the time.
twilit frigate
anyone got a link
twin lagoon
.g debian
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twin lagoon
there you go
twilit frigate
thank
where's the server download tho i went to getting debian and it doesn't seem to be there
twilit frigate
oof ok
twilit frigate
holy shit its fucking tiny
twin lagoon
it's the net installer
twilit frigate
oh ok
next wind
didnt nordvpn leak customer info?
twilit frigate
i was like what the fuck
twin lagoon
no
cunning raft
mine did to
mighty storm
so that didnt work
mighty storm
galaxy brain lol
cunning raft
they can't block ssl 
twilit frigate
so is there any specific settings i need for debian or nah
when i burn it onto the drive
ok
spiral sparrow
this video is good s o far @twin lagoon
quasi valley
@twin lagoon very good video
spiral sparrow
the ltt minecraft video you told me to look up
is there a way to get spotify cheap like the discord nitro deal for xbox
LEGAL
upper flicker
nocturne falcon
spiral sparrow
this is only for college people ๐ฆ
next wind
thats how most student plans work
upper flicker
its not just an edu
it's verified through a service
jetbrains stuff is just an edu though
for those looking for IDE fun times
next wind
Donโt you just need an edu
@void void how are you supposed to get a .edu email?
spiral sparrow
@twin lagoon do you think pi-hole will block spotify ads ?
next wind
im pretty sure colleges are the only places that give those out
wait let me check my school email
yeah i have a .org
spiral zinc
how are you supposed to get a .edu email?
@next wind they are also sold so people can take advantage of school promos
do you think pi-hole will block spotify ads ?
@spiral sparrow IIRC pi-hole does block spotify ads with some minor tweaks
spiral sparrow
ty
spiral zinc
NVIDIA's Arm deal is already beginning to go south
@peak dirge there is nothing in this article suggesting that the deal is going south
peak dirge
Oh, sure, but I assure you it will go south for one reason: China
spiral zinc
the co-founder or whatever he may be has been reiterating his point how this buyout is bad for arm and how nvidia will destroy arm for over half a year now
the whole article is just:
On Tuesday, Unite said members who worked for Arm at its Cambridge headquarters had been kept in the dark and fobbed off in an internal meeting, with senior figures telling them any transaction was at least 18 months away.
which doesn't sound too unfair as the whole deal was just announced as a matter of days ago
worn ember
@twin lagoon VERY GOOD VIDEO
peak dirge
As you are well aware, China and the US are on pretty bad terms. Arm is a major player in China, with Arm-based smartphones commonplace and the government interested in avoiding US-made technology in government operations.
twin lagoon
que?
worn ember
oui
twin lagoon
oh it is
peak dirge
cough smartphones cough
worn ember
baguette
peak dirge
Arm makes a lot of money licensing their cores to Chinese SoC vendors.
spiral zinc
They can hold onto those licenses as they please and build upon them
Oh sure yeah
And Arm will continue to do that
peak dirge
NVIDIA seems to not be so interested in continuing the licensing program for long.
They're only saying that to make approval more likely.
spiral zinc
If it really comes down to it, the US will win out and Arm cores will just not go to China and they'll not make as much money
NVIDIA seems to not be so interested in continuing the licensing program for long.
and where did you get this from?
peak dirge
That's a loss for the US and Arm and a win for RISC-V and the domestic Chinese semiconductor industry.
spiral zinc
I'm an AMD shill and I wouldn't necessarily agree with that take
peak dirge
There are many reasons why NVIDIA buying Arm will kill it.
spiral zinc
list some
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jetbrains stuff is just an edu though
not true; they use a repo with domains linked to schools and other educational institutes. e.g. elev.rogfk.no is on this list and automatically accepted
peak dirge
NVIDIA has engaged in patent trolling behavior against Samsung and Qualcomm, who license ARM core.
spiral zinc
NVIDIA will continue Armโs open-licensing model and customer neutrality and expand Armโs IP licensing portfolio with NVIDIA technology
It's like, literally on the bullet point list
peak dirge
expand Armโs IP licensing portfolio with NVIDIA technology
This is code for "we're going to use Arm to do more patent trolling"
spiral zinc
NVIDIA has engaged in patent trolling behavior against Samsung and Qualcomm, who license ARM core.
@peak dirge they settled and shared patents
This is code for "we're going to use Arm to do more patent trolling"
no, this means that Arm can do more GPU shit
mighty storm
why tf are they acquiring arms, pretty much every person already has 2 smh
peak dirge
Nope, the patents NVIDIA sued about were invalid or Samsung/Qualcomm never infringed
ashen cliff
Remove the knock off AyyMD GPU and replace it with NoVideo GPUs?
peak dirge
NVIDIA setlled because the alternative was worse for them.
peak dirge
And this doesn't even help the US's pointless IP war against China.
China will just switch to RISC-V.
spiral zinc
did you even bother to read the nvidia press release
peak dirge
I have.
spiral zinc
it's not pointless, and they (china) won't for a long time
mighty storm
IP as in intellecual property?
spiral zinc
RISC-V is not close to ready for anything interesting
ashen cliff
Maybe not for you, but someone working in networking, very interesting.
peak dirge
With billions from the Chinese government, I'm sure that problem will be overcome quite quickly.
spiral zinc
Hard doubt
Just look at how far they've come on their current homegrown initiatives
(not very far)
But even so
Good for them?
ashen cliff
They do have first gen Zen with some RAND() changes.
spiral zinc
I still don't understand how China is going to make the ARM acquisition an issue for Nvidia
peak dirge
RISC-V will continue to make inroads in the market.
peak dirge
@spiral zinc It is quite obvious to me, I fail to see why it's not an issue for you. Chinese anti-trust regulators seem likely to have to sign off on the merger, and China has political reasons to not hand Arm over to an American company.
spiral zinc
China doesn't own Arm?
peak dirge
What did I say about smartphones and the desire for domestic processors?
spiral zinc
They don't own Arm
sly ruin
The K210 (RISC-V) has seen pretty wide adoption in the microcontroller world.
spiral zinc
It doesn't matter how much they want it
peak dirge
That doesn't matter, Arm cores are widely used in China.
spiral zinc
So what
peak dirge
They can spin some sort of national security excuse out of that.
peak dirge
Do not underestimate China.
spiral zinc
They'll make their own, so what
mighty storm
cracks knucles how do i spell knuckles
spiral zinc
Sounds like you're just chatting bigoted nonsense from an anti-chinese standpoint man
peak dirge
Nope, not even close.
spiral zinc
There's good reasons to fear IP theft but this is so far off base
China steals IP all the time but what's that got to do with the sale of Arm
golden gust
it's not IP theft if your country doesn't care about IP
mighty storm
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@quasi valley uwu
warm anchor
spiral zinc
And of possibly restricting licensing to not allow Chinese licensing
mighty storm
@minor badge you pinged him as soon as he said brb lol
twilit frigate
can someone help me setup this mc server i got the debian server installed
warm anchor
.g how to set up Minecraft server
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warm anchor
^ @twilit frigate
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@mighty storm +1 day
twilit frigate
its on debian server tho
mighty storm
indeed ๐
twin lagoon
install java ske3lly
peak dirge
My arguments are based on my understanding of the deal and the geopolitical tension between the US and China.
golden gust
You literally throw the jar in a folder and run it with java
peak dirge
And also past behavior from NVIDIA.
golden gust
There is a level of hope that you're able to use debian here, if not, I'd start with that
spiral zinc
i mean my apt install is saying i'm not root
@twilit frigate Run the command with sudo
The US might cut them off so what
Arm is owned by the US and the UK, allies in trade
twilit frigate
it says sudo not found
ashen cliff
No sudo on Debian by default.
peak dirge
You fail to get my point and probably never will. Iโm going to stop taking for now
golden gust
login as root or something
spiral zinc
You fail to get my point and probably never will. Iโm going to stop taking for now
Is there anyone else here that's getting your point?
void void
i get his point
spiral zinc
do explain then
i guess i'm just not seeing the words between the lines in the press release
warm anchor
he already explained lol
void void
why don't you just re-read?
warm anchor
smh my head
void void
shaking my smh indeed
quasi valley
shaking my rip
humble falcon
rip in peace
mighty storm
rest in rip ๐
spiral zinc
Press release =/= actual intention.
@ashen cliff The SEC would eat them if they lied on that
ashen cliff
Don't see that happening. They always lie and get away with it.
spiral zinc
โ
ashen cliff
Read the rest of their press stuff, then look at what they actually did/delivered.
Double speak or every cherry picked stuff is the key.
spiral zinc
How about you read it for me and maybe ping me with some particular block quotes?
I got other shit to be doing
ashen cliff
Yet, you are here.
warm anchor
spiral zinc
Holding a conversation
ashen cliff
While having other stuff to do.
spiral zinc
Not reading looking for lies in their press releases
ashen cliff
I can provide a bedtime story for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L3OTZ13Os
Don't even have to read it.
vernal moth
@vernal moth https://youtu.be/-FUQ6ZxTkM8 lmao germans really are a different breed
@worn ember why does everyone watch the lock picking lawyer now?
twin lagoon
upper flicker
youtube recommendation algo decided they should be famous
warm anchor
I saw that video title I already knew he's gonna poke fun of German engineering
ashen cliff
Simple. Due to Todd: https://posili.me/i/2020-09-16_18-26-59.png
golden gust
Yea, algo was 10/10 and LPL is just cool
cosmic raft
harry!
quasi valley
are we back to 2012 EPIC intros
quasi valley
ask chew
quasi valley
๐
spiral sparrow
@mighty storm can i be moved
golden gust
Use the correct channel...
You'll get noticed much sooner if you ask in the channel which people are actuallypaying attention to
dapper nacelle
which one? #the-silents
golden gust
yes
dapper nacelle
misleading name
golden gust
it's literally in a channel called "voice chat"
worn ember
@vernal moth ive watched him for a long time lol
cedar spade
.wa 4.87/1.4e178
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candid spindle
hey
any1 who is well versed in Paper Development wanna give any statement
I sent the wrong link xD, its got the same front image lol
mossy vessel
@heady spear uwu?? how dawe you
candid spindle
noo
true canyon
Surely bedrock or the writer wrote some weird stuff
candid spindle
golden gust
I mean
candid spindle
this is the thing they are gonna use in minecraft, is it not written in java or something, I got no idea lol
twin lagoon
it's literally sharding
golden gust
it's literally irrelevant to 99% of servers
twin lagoon
nothing too special
heady spear
@mossy vessel hi babe
ashen cliff
Minecraft experience but also to facilitate new game modes with far larger player counts.
new
mossy vessel
cute cute
golden gust
I can't see it being something that happens publically bar mojang maybe making it easier to actually thread stuff, but, that's nothing to do with that tool as much as the large changes in general needed for that, tooling just makes it easier
ashen cliff
You could fit 200 players on a single server... making them play parkour.
candid spindle
so, not relevant in anyway and we will stay sad
twin lagoon
even if it releases for java
it won't apply to 99%
it's all just going to be some marketing stunt for some random server
candid spindle
apparently its for rhealms
twin lagoon
probably
ashen cliff
Even if we used it for lobbies, we run into client side issues.
candid spindle
it looked interesting, was kinda looking for 2000 player uhc's
that would be fun
twin lagoon
that would be horrible
worn ember
gl finding 2k players
candid spindle
so, whats the dream change minecraft could possibly make to make the game run faster?
ashen cliff
Join the 100 player Hypixel skypvp (or what ever they call it) game, watch the FPS tank.
candid spindle
for paper*
golden gust
I mean, there is a limit to CPUs, best you could do is rewrite the game and make more stuff work in parallel
ashen cliff
1.8.10 when?
golden gust
There was something in the potential future pipeline for essentially something akin to that
candid spindle
and could Minecraft do that? And will it end up as bad as PurPur?
golden gust
the regional ticking
I mean
Could and will are two entirely different ballgames
mojang and concurrency is hell anyways
candid spindle
ahh ok
golden gust
what that engine does is really nothing revolutionary, maybe a different way to shard it more transparently? But, that's really all it is
worn ember
minecraft java is pretty much dead at this point sadly
golden gust
as soon as you get a few dozen players in one area, it will likely just stall out like it would anyways, because you have to be able to safely interact with other stuff in the area, and that often involves complex work to ensure that interop is safe across "shards", and the entire process of communicating across threads being slower in general due to how memory works
worn ember
if anything is getting revolutionary changes it'll be bedrock
candid spindle
so is there no point in developing for Mc Java?
golden gust
mc java is not dead, but, these large tech things generally lean more towards bedrock given the nature of it being microsofts toy essentially
candid spindle
other than Iron Bugs, there is no way in which any one of you geniuses could improve the game?
golden gust
I mean, yes
That's literally what we do here
The issue is the viable scope in keeping stuff maintainable
candid spindle
oh yea
golden gust
It's not worth us getting the regional ticking stuff into 1.16 and making it all safe and fast if it's going to be kill in 1.17 for a hefty period of time due to some changes, etc, etc
candid spindle
true
hollow plaza
Hard fork from Spigot Minecraft when lol
golden gust
not even remotely viable
ashen cliff
Not yet.
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@mighty storm :0
golden gust
take a look at literally every project which tries to reimplement vanila
golden gust
Find one which is even remotely close to being fully implemented with stuff in vanilla
void void
Hey, I would like to know if this class has been optimized enough, it is used to periodically update the values โโof callbacks in a HashMap so that they can be fetched just in time afterwards
sly ruin
Can anyone help real quick? I need to know how to add a file to a Chrooted environment. Google seems to think I want to do the opposite.
mighty storm
@minor badge hmm?
twin lagoon
copy the file into the chroot dir
minor badge
@mighty storm uwu!!
minor badge
@twin lagoon change my root papa~
twin lagoon
void void
360matt, #paper-dev
@twin lagoon It's no a paper related class
twilit frigate
yo how do i get the wget and sudo commands on linux debian server
mighty storm
install them
twilit frigate
h o w tho
golden gust
using apt
twilit frigate
ok
twin lagoon
you better have set a root password in the installer
twilit frigate
i did
twilit frigate
ok so i got the sudo but it says wget isnt available but is referred to by another package
golden gust
apt update
twilit frigate
package wget has no installation candidate
twin lagoon
apt update
mighty storm
apt update
twilit frigate
also how do i even get wifi on my server o.o
mighty storm
ethonet
twin lagoon
plug your ethernet cable in
twilit frigate
o just ethernet?
mighty storm
ethernet?
twilit frigate
ok
warm anchor
But Michael my isp told me I got unlimited WiFi
twilit frigate
i thought i needed to set it up in the console o.o
twin lagoon
no