though they mainly favor that bedrock stuff π
#general
slim nymph
lavish nova
ERM
cosmic raft
I thought it was ccgn
mighty storm
only time i boot up /play mc is testing bugs for paper lmao
slim nymph
lol
lavish nova
and have done java exclusive updates recently
wide chasm
Think I have mine set to play.cubecraftgames.net or so
lavish nova
ooh you old school stef
wide chasm
Yes
slim nymph
i didnt mean it as in your bias, imeant you have mostly bedrock players
mighty storm
does cubecraft run paper
wide chasm
I've been playing for 6 or 7 years
cosmic raft
D:
lavish nova
Our marketing apprentice sent this through this morning
worn ember
i honestly never heard of cubecraft up until now, no offense
worn ember
Europe
wide chasm
The wrong part of the world, Belgium
lavish nova
which website
slim nymph
too much white
cosmic raft
kek
wide chasm
lol
mighty storm
wait does cubecraft have pvp
lavish nova
yes
wide chasm
Yes
lavish nova
and other games
worn ember
so if i join i'll get a free donator rank right? Right?
cosmic raft
ccgn only has eggwars
lavish nova
@slim nymph dark mode exists :))))
mighty storm
ki dont get anywhere near pvp even with a 50 ft stick
wide chasm
Play Arcade
lavish nova
wide chasm
That's quite fun
slim nymph
weird dark reader only half hit the site, i had to toggle it off and on
mighty storm
has someone made fall guys in minecraft yet
slim nymph
ok thats better, make it default
lavish nova
We have a ticket in to have it based off OS settings
worn ember
do you make enough to live from it? or do you have a job too?
lavish nova
CubeCraft is my full time job
mighty storm
worn ember
thats cool
wide chasm
I'd hope so
slim nymph
yeah dark reader is hurting on your site lol
mighty storm
might wanna add it to their blacklist
lavish nova
We have about 15ish full time staff I think
slim nymph
mighty storm
i dont like dark reader, it hurts more than helps tbh
worn ember
wow
slim nymph
wheres your online player counts zed?
lavish nova
it broke
potent fossil
has anyone experienced this? dont know if browser issue, font issue etc? but this is in vivaldi on arch when typing into the pipeline field in jenkins. Some other apps do this, but not many. Not all vivaldi textboxes do it.
https://i.imgur.com/flJM1dk.mp4
Cursor seems to be many characters ahead of where the typing actually occurs and it's infuriating
lavish nova
worn ember
inb4 integer overflow
mighty storm
i have that issue on discord
slim nymph
i thought yall were doing like 100k online
lavish nova
no
slim nymph
yeah bedrock is huge
next wind
and cubecraft is one of the only decent servers for bedrock
lavish nova
bedrock is really hard
wide chasm
I only recently learned that Cubecraft merged Bedrock and Java because someone couldn't place towers correctly in Tower Defense on Xbox
slim nymph
i remember seeing yall at like i think 2013 or 2016 minecraft and wondering wtf you were, thought it was some mod pack lol
minecon
lavish nova
ah yeah, we used to peak at 30k on Java back in the day
we've been growing recently again on Java which is cool
worn ember
times have changed
slim nymph
until you update to latest and everyone quits due to lag
lavish nova
Most of our player base is latest
slim nymph
yeah but your server isnt getting the cons of latest π
lavish nova
Ah yes the secret is to remove code
slim nymph
have fun removing everything
wide chasm
Proud contributor of 1.16.3 Java counts ;)
slim nymph
and reverting back to old mc logic
lavish nova
sigh
potent fossil
smfh, forcing the field to use a monospace font helped as apparently it doesn't by default? amazing
slim nymph
my fix to hoppers was to revert it back to 1.12
wide chasm
Just throw more ram at it /s
lavish nova
that's our usual approach
slim nymph
seriously its pretty bad
wide chasm
wow sniped
slim nymph
you gotta scale horizontally more
you know i wonder if we can reduce number of cache chunks loaded for already genrated chunks
mini games using pregenned world can get some benefit there
lavish nova
We would definitely redo chunk management
worn ember
plz just rewrite minecraft for them, mojang is struggling
wide chasm
I mean, welcome to paper
slim nymph
see "redo" is the scary part, if your gonna jump to latest, you really need to try to take our approach and see how can we design this to maintain it easy over updates π
worn ember
thats only server tho, client could use some love too
slim nymph
redoing is a high risk thing
worn ember
paper client wen
wide chasm
Only play on servers so the client doesn't have to do as much. Works for me at least.
worn ember
true
magic river
Apple claims the A14 running at 5W in the iPad Air is faster at single core and multicore than a 9900k and 3900X
serene bolt
sodium and phosphor has got a lot of the client covered performance wise
magic river
To be fair on geekbench the A13 already beat the 3900X at single core
magic river
It's Apple Silicon v14
cunning raft
tbf they design their own processer probably just to make those geekbench numbers
"faster" is very broad and from their marketing department
peak dirge
A14 is at best a mild bump over A13, not worth running out and buying.
worn ember
its good marketing
mighty storm
are discussions finally here yet
worn pasture
u wot
magic river
On pretty much any other benchmark you can run on an iPhone or iPad they're by far faster than every other phone/tablet and in the same area as Intel laptops and desktops
worn ember
what they really need to focus on is thermals
peak dirge
even if you take Apple's numbers at face value, the CPU performance got a 16% bump, which is inline with the IPC bumps of AMD's Zen generations (Zen -> Zen 2 -> Zen 3)
magic river
Anandtech thinks the meager 8-9% GPU perf bump from the A13 is a sign that they've focused on thermals
worn ember
cpu's be burning holes in your mobo if you dont cool it with liquid ice
magic river
Their GPU was a power hog when running full tilt and ended up throttling
peak dirge
I got that 16% number from Anandtech too
I will not deny Apple's chips are very good, they are the kings of mobile SoCs and it will be very interesting to see their first Mac SoCs.
magic river
I'm guessing their MBP with the A14X is going to run at 15W and the CPU perf is going to blow Intel and AMD away, especially in that power envelope but possibly even on the high end
worn ember
cant go wrong with some good competition
magic river
15W in a 13" laptop is still possible to passively cool too, I think
So they can have no fan, all day battery life, and desktop perf
peak dirge
I think the first Mac SoC will immediately destroy the Intel chips currently in MacBooks
Probably by a large margin too.
The x86 decoder tax probably plays a major role here
magic river
With a fan it'll probably run full turbo forever, without it'll probably throttle
x86 decoder isn't much of a problem although the x86 memory model is less efficient
peak dirge
wouldn't be surprised if Apple was intentionally sandbagging Intel Mac performance in preparation, so that Apple SIlicon will look better than x86
magic river
It's also less likely to let you shoot yourself in the foot
Apple MBPs benchmark in the same range as any other high end ultrabook
So no, they aren't doing that
peak dirge
fair enough
though I've mostly checked out of the Apple ecosystem sans the iPhone, and I'm keeping that until I buy a new one years down the road
*new phone
magic river
I left macOS almost entirely because of the price gouging they do for 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD
I bought an XPS for less than half the price and slapped an Intel 660p in there
peak dirge
I eventually wound up going to a 3900X with 32GB RAM and 2x1TB SSDs
magic river
32GB RAM and 1TB SSD is my laptop π
Although my current desktop only has 32GB right now too
peak dirge
having 12 cores has been pretty helpful for me
magic river
My laptop is also always running at least one VM though and I build the desktop to have something that could play modded Skyrim so it's not going to waste on either one
peak dirge
though I will keep an eye out on the first Apple Silicon Macs
magic river
If they offer 32GB RAM versions and aren't stupid expensive I might get one, although I'll probably wait for the second version
Get more out of my XPS purchase and wait for them to work out the kinks, used to be a rule that you never buy v1 of Apple hardware
peak dirge
my bet is that they'll probably introduce it on a lower-end product first
magic river
v1 is for early adopters and suckers, there is always something that goes wrong with it
peak dirge
I do want to cast doubt on how Apple says that Intel Macs will continue to be supported "for years to come" - Mac OS X 10.5 was only supported for about 4 years and it was the last version of macOS with PowerPC support.
Well, excluding that one Snow Leopard beta.
mighty storm
nani
void void
How am I supposed to send a 30GB video from my phone to my pc
mighty storm
how did you do you mean
void void
And why tf does it weights that much
magic river
4 years is a long time
mighty storm
is it 4k60fps
magic river
And that wasn't the only PPC release after they started shipping Intel Macs
mighty storm
Hm?
void void
is it 4k60fps
@mighty storm no
mighty storm
ah
mighty storm
1GB/min nice
peak dirge
I know when they started shipping Intel Macs. The first ones, if I remember correctly, came with Tiger.
magic river
Yeah, I guess they did only do one more release for PPC after Intel Macs then, thought it was two
peak dirge
It depends on how long Apple wants to support x86 macOS. The really high-end products (the iMac Pros, the Mac Pros) will in all likelihood be the last to switch to Apple Silicon
magic river
Still, Intel Macs started early 2006 and they kept PPC updates until 2009
So 3.5 years from them, longer for apps
Apple these days only supports an OS release for 18-24 months
peak dirge
And depending on the timeframe, I'm sure there will be enthusiasts who will forward-port support for Intel Macs and Hackintoshes to newer macOS versions as Apple drops older x86 hardware
void void
Which tool should I use to deform an image
mighty storm
Im on mojave I think
cunning raft
not come here
potent fossil
thanks for spamming about airdrop
void void
You're welcome
cunning raft
yeah chivitos, bad news. I'm sorry to say but I just did thorough search of this channel and cannot find a single person that asked
mighty storm
I set my render distance to max, and I still couldn't find who tf asked
I'm jokin btw lol π π l ol
potent fossil
π π π π lol
cunning raft
π 
potent fossil
uwu
cunning raft
this is a kekw moment!111! π
mighty storm
void void
mighty storm
potent fossil
mighty storm
pulsar wigeon
i was 5 years cancer free until i tabbed into this channel. :(
potent fossil
hi wiz
mighty storm
wiz what happened
cosmic raft
mighty storm
eight
mighty storm
"leaf is dumb"
cosmic raft
mighty storm
My Minecraft playlist has 7400 followers for whatever reason
Spotify reset the name 4 times and then suppressed it
I guess because it has Minecraft in the title?
It had 8000 a few weeks ago
worn ember
didnt you know Mine refers to slaves smh
pure mica
How do I gain access to the "adorable-kitties" text channel? I have some pictures I wanna send in that channel.
next wind
be a mod
jolly crown
become purr
mighty storm
post cat images so kashike can deem your worthiness
cosmic raft
^
mighty storm
okay, fr , essay time
potent fossil
do it chew
kash make me mod so i can ban chew if she doesn't do some essay writing
dim shadow
what is essay about?
mighty storm
rate my essay so far
dim shadow
thats not a essay
mighty storm
wtf
dim shadow
i can help u write it i know englisch
mighty storm
sorry, it has to be in English
dim shadow
yes i speak it
mighty storm
here
mighty storm
dim shadow
ok cats
u got point #1 down
yeah bruh sorry thats like level 99 english
im like level 5 overall
jaunty kite
dim shadow
what grade u in? university?
wait ethos pathos logos... u said english not greek
or latin or w/e that is
imma go with greek tho cuz of the th's
mighty storm
im in 13th grade
potent fossil
that confused me for a moment
dim shadow
bruh i did up to 11th and it wasnt half that complicated
guess 12th musta been hardcore
mighty storm
i havent written an essay in like 2 years
mighty storm
ye
potent fossil
basically senior english round 2
peak dirge
I wrote a 7-page essay for a history exam, got a 97.
heady spear
simple u must be a juvian planet because ur gassy and way too far away from me D:
dim shadow
did i go to dumb school or something
heady spear
We wrote a shit tonne of essays and they all had to be in English which was hella annoying .-.
had to write these dumb papers for chem in English too n that was sucky
dim shadow
do u live in a non english country?
mighty storm
heady spear
Yes. Sweden. Enrolled in a dumb English based high school programme though
dim shadow
ohhhh nice sverige notch's homeland
mighty storm
ew
heady spear
my chemistry internal assement was about geometrical modelling of alcohol models, their rotation and steric hindrance
sharp sentinel
using notchβs homeland as a positive
heady spear
still have nightmares about that shit
dim shadow
my chemistry internal assement was about geometrical modelling of alcohol models, their rotation and steric hindrance
@heady spear dafuq
i woulda just showed up drunk to that class
like "heres ur modeling teacher
heady spear
Well it was fun but my teacher was way too nice when he graded our shit and 80% was graded externally so that kinda sucked
because he never told me what to improve so my final essay sucked >:((
mighty storm
dim shadow
is discourse the same thing as discord
mighty storm
ddg! !define discord
coarse hornetBOT
coarse hornetBOT
dim shadow
so one is arguing and the other is talking normally
why is discord called discord? i always have pleasant conversations here
mighty storm
where tf do you hang out then
heady spear
simple u ignored
simple u must be a juvian planet because ur gassy and way too far away from me D:
smh
mighty storm
how tf do you have pleasant conversations on spigot
upper stump
why is discord called discord? i always have pleasant conversations here
Funnily enough, the original purpose of discord was for a community of people who often do not have "pleasant" conversations
heady spear
I called you a gassy planet n u didn't respond I am officially done with u
potent fossil
this is entirely a guess but id assume that discord the app is called as such because prior to discord everyone was using skype or teamspeak or mumble or whatever (teamspeak <3 i miss u) and there was discord with choosing what to use, so discord the app fixes the discord 
maybe
upper stump
I remember reading somewhere that they named it "discord" because they liked the word
potent fossil
city you have to ping me otherwise me not see
dim shadow
everyone used to be on skype then i go to jail and when i come out everyone moved on to discord
dim shadow
i totally missed that transition
potent fossil
:c
heady spear
basically Xena--
mighty storm
am i supposed to do 1 paragraph per page or some shit
heady spear
I've done the reading for my astrophysics course π
turns out I actually like comparative planetology. I thought it'd suck
The prof is amazing which is kinda rare here because all professors at my university seem to hate teaching
dim shadow
do u know how planets rotate n stuff?
mighty storm
i always rate my professors on 2 scales: their ability to teach and how good of a person they are
Rarely do they score high on both
heady spear
I mean we did that in high school physics so like yes? π
mighty storm
but sometimes, very rarely, they do
dim shadow
i tried to simulate rotations once but shit kept crashing and flying off at max speed
i wish i knew the exact formulas
mighty storm
@potent fossil ur good at english right, if I do it can you read over it and yell at how bad it is kthx
i will provide 3 rory pictures as return
dim shadow
is rory a cat
mighty storm
i sure hope so, she sure acts like one
dim shadow
oh nice i love cats
i dont have any tho i had a couple but they died... now i take care of neighborhood public cats
dim shadow
yea ;-; one got cancer, the other ran away with another cat but statistically speaking hes either dead or somehow surpassed the life expectancy of cats
imma go with dead tho
so yes rip vince & tony
they was good catsd
mighty storm
im sure they were lovely
potent fossil
do what now
mighty storm
when i write my essay can u like go over it
potent fossil
peer review?
mighty storm
jsut be liek "yep, this is shit alright"
well, not necessarily that, just make sure it actually meets the requirements lol
we're doing peer reviews tmrw
mighty storm
π‘
potent fossil
if am awake then sure
mighty storm
?warn @dim shadow https://papermc.io/community-guidelines (ableist speech)
leaden oxideBOT
The Leocabotiveβ’#1938 has been warned. || https://papermc.io/community-guidelines (ableist speech)
dim shadow
wat
mighty storm
dim shadow
wat is abelist speech
mighty storm
potent fossil
ableism is words or actions that are meant to demean someone who has a disability
r*** is such a word
mighty storm
i mean i warned you
potent fossil
ur not in trouble, you got a warning
dim shadow
didnt mean it like that
mighty storm
of course not, thats why were trying to phase out the word
void void
Howdy all
dim shadow
aw snap im so sorry yall
potent fossil
i used to say it a lot, but we're trying not to
void void
Is this a good place to ask questions about bukkit/spigot development
potent fossil
ur good, it's just a warn
dim shadow
@void void i mean pretty much
dim shadow
probs #paper-dev better tho
mighty storm
for spigot?
void void
Ya
mighty storm
this is paper!!
mighty storm
now if this is for a paper plugin we got u
void void
this was the first thing i found so i joined lol
ok well screw it lets develop for paper then lmao
mighty storm
hell yeah
dim shadow
bruh theres a gui api...? lol i couldve saved so much time
mighty storm
there's a ton
void void
lmao
mighty storm
I use stef's
void void
ive been familiar with spigot development for several years now but i kinda stopped doing it a while back
but today im like
why not make a plugin
im tired of make node applications
xD
dim shadow
guis r fun to work with tbh
void void
veri tru
dim shadow
its like who needs commands
void void
one of my favorite things to do is connect different platforms together and make useful utilities
mighty storm
can confirm
void void
like making bots that sync data with websites
mighty storm
whats the command to view disk usage? df -h?
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/rbd5 198G 53G 137G 28% /```oop
void void
In linux?
dim shadow
i mean it sucks when the inventory event throws an exception and players get free items out of gui icons LOL
void void
haha thats always fun
dim shadow
i try so hard to avoid that i hope it doesnt happen
void void
yeye
void void
that always works
dim shadow
yeah i do too, hopin it works
void void
i always end up trying to fix problems like those with solutions that i realize later are a lot simpler than they would have to be
and then stuf breaks
π
dim shadow
coding=fun =DDDD
mighty storm
just shows more stuff
void void
the more the better
void void
what does the s flag do
raw trout
so do we just get our jdks from adopt nowadays?
dim shadow
idk lol i just googled how to view filesizes :I
void void
oracle is being dumb
mighty storm
ugh, im so lost with this essay
mighty storm
i just use adoptopenjdk
dim shadow
lol theres a way to get oracle stuff without signing in... took me a few tries tho
raw trout
wait can I delete my oracle account?
dim shadow
if u already got what u needed then sure why not
mighty storm
i dont think adoptopenjdk 15 is out yet tho :(
raw trout
hmm I just wanted to know why some people use adopt over oracle? isn't oracle the official jdk thing
void void
starts super secret oracle jdk archive
dim shadow
oracle just be doing too much imo
void void
yea
dim shadow
makes it so hard to get stuff
raw trout
yeh that's true
so adoptopenjdk is a good secure source for jdk?
are they the same thing oracle and adopt?
dim shadow
damn ibm still around? LOL
dim shadow
i stopped hearing about them when they stopped making computers :I
next wind
they still manage alot of servers
dim shadow
their homepage looks like a tech news site
potent fossil
ibm didn't 'stop making computers'
ibm is one of the world's leading manufacturers of mainframes, and enterprise is very much so a huge customer
they just don't do 'consumer' computers
dim shadow
i wonder if that thing can run paper
potent fossil
the north american operations of the bank i worked at ran on 2 of those
1 was backup and not used most of the year
:)
im talking the bank core, all accounts and balances and transactions day-to-day ran thru one of those
so ye, big boy pcs
dim shadow
dam son a whole bank in 1 pc?
void void
i want one of those to play minecraft on
dim shadow
they must like never crash
potent fossil
yes with instant failover to the other side of the US
dim shadow
:I
potent fossil
we didn't failover except when practicing, however disclaimer, i didnt work on that machine. there's a whole team dedicated to its maintenance
dim shadow
java: whats a terabyte
potent fossil
i just had an app i was in charge of running on it
void void
java: whats a terabyte
@dim shadow https://huynt.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/hs_err.jpg
potent fossil
managing that itself is a whole other league
dim shadow
LOL
void void
π
dim shadow
do they run x86 or some sort of cpu from space
dim shadow
:I
peak dirge
It's CP/M, but that's nitpicking.
dim shadow
yeah that one LOL
peak dirge
And yes, you can in fact launch a Minecraft server on IBM z. Not that you'd want to.
mighty storm
let's go
potent fossil
anyway yeah, cool stuff. but back to watching my show
just had to interject, ibm is very much ancient but very much not dead
dim shadow
And yes, you can in fact launch a Minecraft server on IBM z. Not that you'd want to.
@peak dirge damn why not? lemme guess too many cores not enough mhz
peak dirge
that's not the case
The most recent chips run at 5+GHz and have 12 cores, which is actually better than Intel/AMD x86 offerings, the problem is that these systems are very, very expensive
dim shadow
bruh 5ghz 12 core...? for a fridge sized pc i'd imagine more like 10ghz 1 gigacores
peak dirge
Edit for IRC peeps: I mean better than consumer/low-end server x86 offerings
dim shadow
i imagine the rest is a literal fridge just for cooling?
oh nvm 16 exabytes ram
damn son
mighty storm
https://twitter.com/spigotdrama/status/1306050170702888960?s=21 oh no! not community feedback!
Twitter
peak dirge
But for most people, existing x86 solutions provide more than enough performance.
static badge
not using x86
dim shadow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1YGE7m33iQ this lady has a few
mighty storm
x86 is 32-bit right
dim shadow
nah they updated it to 64 but now they call it x86-64
they didnt rename it x86-32 when they moved up from 16 bit
true canyon
@mighty storm if you're looking at downloads x86 may be talking about 32 bit stuff
mighty storm
bad news
dim shadow
what u updatin?
true canyon
Unless you're playing with macos and everything's on fire?
mighty storm
i refuse to name what i wil update while mbax is in the current presence
ayy are you brewing coffe in a teapot? call me 418 because i refuse
dim shadow
is it ur linux?
speaking of update... why is this pubg update 12gb
i just wanna play man
mighty storm
lo
dim shadow
like what whyyyy
worn ember
Yes
dim shadow
if its not a new map im gonna be mad
worn ember
what game
dim shadow
pubg
dim shadow
dayum
the way its looking like rn imma say about half a hour or so
i truly do hate it when this happens on my xbox... i have 0 bytes left on my hard drive
so i gotta delete games to update other games
and then its like bruh what tf did they update
0 new features
but the game is now bigger
worn ember
lol
finite wave
Go to bed @worn ember
finite wave
Iβve been half asleep for a long time now
Imm just gonna pop a ton of cafff tomorrow, or Well today and hope iβll survive
dim shadow
caffein > sleep
finite wave
I can get more done if i donβt sleep tho
worn ember
ok boomer
dim shadow
I can get more done if i donβt sleep tho
@finite wave man if i sleep the recommended amount of time i just feel lazy af the next day
sleep is overrated af
void void
Ugh whenever I add a jar library in IDEA i get this error when i do maven package
Error:(3,32) java: package de.lystx.bettergui.utils does not exist
worn ember
did you add the repo too?
dim shadow
lol i hate maven... i just work with local jars
worn ember
void void
thats what i did
worn ember
show your pom
void void
ok
worn ember
also move to #paper-dev
dim shadow
me editing other peoples plugins:
- 10% coding my edits
- 90% working around maven/git
void void
limpid comet
i love my new network setup
I have a java app which initializes docker containers as servers and also provides a REST API to query, create, and destroy servers
and my discord bot/velocity proxy can use that API to manage servers
plush heart
ptero 1.0 gold master soon? π
potent fossil
plush heart
Can't wait for the inevitable flood of new errors with the next release. So many people that think Discord is a good place to report bugs.
spiral zinc
@potent fossil after a good long rest, I had to think about what I said actually and did some research on the matter
what youβre doing sounds a lot like https://matrix.org/blog/2019/04/11/security-incident/ https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/issues/371 actually
lean kiln
any chance of java 11 being made default for mc in 1.0?
spiral zinc
write access to your codebase is access to jenkins. access to jenkins is access to the server. access to the server is access to docker. access to docker lets you run privileged containers, which gets you read access to the whole system
a vulnerability being exploited at any point leads to a collapse in security
potent fossil
well
pretend you never heard about it because im not changing it now lmao, and im not setting up anything like k8s simply dont have the time but thanks
minor badge
uwu
mighty storm
hello proxi :3
minor badge
@potent fossil uwu
minor badge
dont downgrade
sullen iron
Didn't. Just updated to the latest paper build
minor badge
the error disagrees
sullen iron
Yeah, well, it can disagree all it wants. I did the update 5 minutes ago
minor badge
how exactly did you get the jar?
sullen iron
cd /home/minecraft/spigot
rm paperclip._jar
mv paperclip.jar paperclip._jar
wget https://papermc.io/ci/job/Paper-1.16/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/paperclip.jar
then the caching to oblivion on the CI fucked you lol
use the API, look at #announcements pins
spiral zinc
that was me
minor badge
tbh
spiral zinc
I was asking if you were running jenkins as a deploy server
potent fossil
i mean kind of yea
it gets push notif, then ssh in and rebuilds the image, then restarts the container with compose
i dont know another way and i dont want to set up a full orchestration system
ssh is via key only and the key is stored on the server, so i mean yea. but they have to get into my jenkins which ? i mean, im sure that's not impossible buuut
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
worn pasture
what's the each key
minor badge
chew pls
sullen iron
aight. I look at pinned message in announcement. Has links to 1.13 stuff
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yeah, adapt it to 1.16.3, cat
spiral zinc
ssh is via key only and the key is stored on the server, so i mean yea. but they have to get into my jenkins which ? i mean, im sure that's not impossible buuut
@potent fossil you could use github actions as a deploy system
it's pretty uncommon to just use jenkins for one
also, I could just commit some code for jenkins to pull and run on your server
mighty storm
@sullen iron replace
wget https://papermc.io/ci/job/Paper-1.16/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/paperclip.jar
with
curl -JLO https://papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.16.3/latest/download
99% of the time the jenkins link wont be the latest jar
potent fossil
i mean jenkins will also do other stuff later, its just i bothered to set up a few things on it today
however gh actions would also need to ssh in anyway
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chew π₯Ί
mighty storm
proxi 
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potent fossil
proxi π₯Ί
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i want to get outta bed
waxen panther
@minor badge GM
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good morning stinky
waxen panther
π
mental meadow
Good morning
tranquil solstice
π
void void
noob question but, i'm trying to install server-side forge mods.....i've looked at guides and they all seem to say to put the .jar files in to mods directory, and i did but they still don't seem to load.. what am i doing wrong
potent fossil
This is paper support
Sponge is what you're looking for, probably. Or some ungodly other software
void void
okay do you know of a good minecraft server where i can ask there?..
paper here is the only minecraft server i have on my list
void void
i used forge 1.12.2 installer, and it made a minecraft_server.1.12.2.jar file
vestal jasper
then the forge discord :D
void void
then i have mods directory, but it doesn't seem to load any thing in there
oh okay, i'll look for the forge server.. thanks
wow they won't even help me on that server.. they said they will only help with 1.15 and 1.16....βοΌΏβ
potent fossil
well yea, but also you're likely not running just forge.
we also only support 1.15 and 1.16. that's why you need to go to the support of whatever software you're running, which is probably Sponge?
or, if it's something else...then idk. Can try to help you find the discord, but that's it.
void void
i ran forge installer and it downloaded minecraft_server.1.12.2.jar automatically
so i'm guessing it is just vanilla? but patched with forge
potent fossil
where did you get that installer from
void void
void void
yeah my stupid friends want to use a lot of mods that are only for 1.12.2
potent fossil
and the discord server for sponge can be found in #community-guilds
they can support you, but we can't
void void
oh okay cool thanks
rose echo
potent fossil
sigh.
mighty storm
I posted that somewhere a few months ago
July 6th nice
Also... #memes
Rate my invite page
Also gg discord for not removing status bar
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rory
mighty storm
Rory
next wind
Rory?
potent fossil
Rory
mighty storm
Rory
zealous wedge
Rory!
humble falcon
Rory?!
rose echo
Rory?
green turret
Rory
potent fossil
fossil isle
quasi valley
amazing
cosmic raft
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gamer mode fucked it π
next wind
Bad spacing on mobile too
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looks ominous in black mode tho
green turret
That is a cute dog though
potent fossil
narsehole when @green turret
fucking opencage changed their published v1 and broke my app
fallen oracle
potent fossil
hauntingly relevant
@fallen oracle https://github.com/simpleauthority/pundasyon/commit/10cecaf8f5ad3f3b1ef5d98cd2ca010ae15f136d
why would they even.
just. why.
that one change broke the entire reverse resolver
cosmic raft
@potent fossil what is that
potent fossil
just a small api for random stuff
has weather, geocoding (forward and reverse), and wikipedia image search
and ghost support but im removing that bc not using ghost
void void
I took
It took*
About 4 hours to send the fucking videos from my phone to my computer
but no one fucking asked so goodbye
potent fossil
have you heard of editing your message and typing coherently
void void
No I didnt hear
potent fossil
i didn't ask if you will, i ask if you have heard of it
void void
No I didnt hear
potent fossil
olive marlin
Anyone knows where one can get a budget storage VPS? Aiming at around 500-750 GB one.
The reason why VPS and not S3/GCS is that they charge a lot for outgoing traffic - and I have quite a bit when I delete old incremental backups.
Currently on some German provider, which uses 3 different company names in emails xD
twin lagoon
uh
green turret
narsehole when @green turret
@potent fossil not entirely sure, but according to the guy all products got shipped last week. So however long it'll take from, I guess Hong Kong, to Denmark! :P
twin lagoon
@olive marlin ngl
just go for a hetzner machine
20 - 25 eur/mo
https://backupsy.com/ i've used these in the past aswell
olive marlin
Well, now I'm at 50E / year for 750 xD
green turret
Yesterday I looked at an apartment that had a toilet that I'm pretty sure I can't install the Narsehole on. So that's a big minus!
twin lagoon
olive marlin
Just got invoice for another year, and wanted to see if I can find something to switch to.
potent fossil
@potent fossil not entirely sure, but according to the guy all products got shipped last week. So however long it'll take from, I guess Hong Kong, to Denmark! :P
@green turretclean butt shiny butt dry butt poop-free butt!
also oof D:
void void
seeing you guys alway recommend extravm for shared hosting, does extravm allow changing of jvm flags?
vernal bone
Hello
void void
neat thanks
green turret
@green turret :pepepoggershypers: clean butt shiny butt dry butt poop-free butt!
Aww I don't have that one
But YES, SOON
twin lagoon
gcloud 
fucking expensive download fees though
600GB egress traffic cost me like $80
:^)
twin lagoon
ashen cliff
gibibyte
twin lagoon
@viral hornet π₯Ί
potent fossil
TIL Yiddish is a Germanic language
olive marlin
Yeah @ashen cliff . I'd use GDrive but AFAIR it's no longer usable when it comes to big storage. And I can either get 200 GB or 2TB, which is not ideal lol
potent fossil
thought it was middle east related
olive marlin
Unfortunately restic requires ton of egress to delete old incremental backups.
olive marlin
I'll be switching sometime soon, so it might make it better. But still.
Yeah, planning on switching my shit to kopia.
twin lagoon
still works fine for me
i found out a way to quickly restore an mc server backup
aslong as you have existing mc server files on that server, just --overwrite-files --overwrite-directories the restore cmd
ashen cliff
TFW you have 100TB of backups.
Maybe is was off by a little: https://posili.me/i/2020-09-16_10-11-56.png
potent fossil
@twin lagoon what's the equivalent of a host bind (for volumes, i might be calling it the wrong thing) in k8s
potent fossil
like where you just set a folder and dont use the volume system
potent fossil
thanks daddy
green turret
You guys like Kubernetes?
potent fossil
im trying to learn it but just dont have time, i need to fool with it at some point
twin lagoon
accurate
potent fossil
i just got everything set up nicely with docker compose, but k8s is "the one true way" so i feel inadequate :'(
void void
usually can be solved with rebooting the machine apparently
potent fossil
but i will never go back to manually configuring servers lmao
olive marlin
I monthly move about 1TB of data each way, so not way I can use buckets or anything.
golden gust
k3s was literally crashing a machine out somehow with upgrades
K8s looks interesting, but, getting an environment where you can actually play with it looks like total ass
void void
getting bare k8s up and running is veeery painful
twin lagoon
k3s is easy as fuck actually
olive marlin
You either pay for Google k8s, or struggle getting all your shit setup. Especially LB and stuff.
void void
zfs-localpv, metallb, nginx-ingress
that's my shit rn
work but π©
it's so annoying to set up
golden gust
I had k3s running
void void
yesterday started getting 50% packet loss again - half of the connections timed out suddenly
golden gust
But, it kept getting stuck with upgrades and literally would just randomly take the machine down
I also had it attached to some rancher instance my mate runs
green turret
At work we host our stuff on AWS, but we don't really have to scale out so much. The few things we have that need to scale out need to scale out wildly and then scale back in (it's just parallel batch jobs). So our current setup is just launch templates with one EC2 instance per service. Some of our stuff is super lightweight and other stuff is lightweight but just a tad too heavy for a 0.5 GB nano instance (JVM stuff). I thought about digging into Kubernetes, but I honestly don't want to pay Amazon for their control plane - it's probably more than what we pay for the instances themselves currently π
So I wonder if it's even worth it to dig into for our use cases.
void void
i just wanted nice rollout deploy 
green turret
Yeah that's my big thing as well.
void void
now i just abuse k8s with concourse ci
twin lagoon
@void void check out argocd
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(DiscordBot) https://argoproj.github.io/argo-cd/ -- Argo CD - Declarative GitOps CD for Kubernetes: "Argo CD is implemented as a kubernetes controller which continuously monitors running applications and compares the current, live state against the..."
green turret
So currently I'm scheduled to spend two weeks on this internal deployment system that I have a proof of concept for written in 80 lines of bash.
potent fossil
wait tf, so if you run a proper k8s cluster (i.e. not how k3s is by default, single node) then how do you keep storage persistent? unless i just didnt read far enough, but it said volumes are poofed when pod goes poof
potent fossil
and obviously not a good idea then to use hostPath because there are multiple servers if host goes then the storage is fucked
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/openebs/zfs-localpv -- openebs/zfs-localpv: CSI Driver for dynamic provisioning of...: "CSI Driver for dynamic provisioning of Persistent Local Volumes for Kubernetes using ZFS. - openebs/zfs-localpv."
twin lagoon
ceph 
void void
setting up CEPH is no fun however
twin lagoon
@potent fossil
longhorn is a nice alternative to CEPH
works quite nicely apparently
developed by rancher too
.g longhorn rancher github
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(DiscordBot) https://github.com/longhorn/longhorn -- longhorn/longhorn: Cloud-Native distributed block storage...: "Longhorn can be installed on a Kubernetes cluster in several ways: kubectl Β· Helm Β· Rancher catalog app. Documentation. The official Longhorn..."
void void
personally i think zfs-localpv is the best solution rn - you'll get the best i/o speed
unlike via uhhh
green turret
We just use Bitbucket Pipelines for our CI/CD needs. We're a tiny team and it does what it needs to, although it can be a bit slow. Not sure if I would gain much from Concourse, but I did look at it once. I love the little graphs. Probably not worth reworking all of our pipelines for though π
void void
nfs?
twin lagoon
nfs 
void void
and other shits where you'll have userspace layer
void void
i need my I/O
potent fossil
respective node
so say i run an app on my single node cluster, it makes a pvc using hostPath like that page says. then, say i add a server to the cluster later down the line and the pod gets put on that one. suddenly that pod doesnt have the files. so storage sync issue? not a great idea to use hostpath?
twin lagoon
eh, it's hostpath backed but it doesn';t seem to be hostpath for you in the end
volumes:
- name: test-volume
hostPath:directory location on host
path: /datathis field is optional
type: Directory
hostpath looks like this
green turret
But do you need two nodes to share the same volume? Isn't that a whole different set of issues?
twin lagoon
yeah i think they just mean that k3s handles local storage with hostpath backed
hence the pvc
green turret
Ahhh
potent fossil
i mean unless im fundamentally misunderstanding, the pod can get reassigned to any of the nodes unless it's pinned to one. so if it happens to be assigned to the one w/o the storage wut do
twin lagoon
and yeah two nodes sharing the same volume can be catastrophic depending on what you want to do
but it should be fine for sharing the same static files for example with Longhorn
or CEPH or whatever
void void
also flexing my zfs setup again - i can either use ZFS directly, or make it use whatever filesystem i want
zvols act like block devices, can format them to ext4, xfs, btrfs etc.
ashen cliff
FAT32.
void void
yes
twin lagoon
i still need to look into ZFS
void void
btrfs with zstd compression for concourse workers 
twin lagoon
was supposed to setup a backup server this week but looks like that's not happening
void void
since concourse workers don't do zfs natively, and they perform best on btrfs
ashen cliff
I personally use ZFS for my photo/camera storage, since you know, compression. 
void void
did you see that zstd PR getting merged?
void void
for zfs
ashen cliff
It better.
twin lagoon
gonna use it
twin lagoon
transparent compression is fucking nuts for MC
void void
it is
void void
also snapshots my dude
twin lagoon
i mean
do i need snapshots lol
i'm planning to use rsnapshot
but if there's a better way to do remote backups
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/jimsalterjrs/sanoid -- jimsalterjrs/sanoid: Policy-driven snapshot management ......: "Sanoid is a policy-driven snapshot management tool for ZFS filesystems. When combined with the Linux KVM hypervisor, you can use it to make your..."
twin lagoon
oh i've heard of that yeah
ashen cliff
So, who is going to test ZFS with ZSTD compression for MC?
void void
me when nixos zfs gets zstd
ashen cliff
True.
twin lagoon
accurate
although do i really need sanoid for remote backups
seems more like something you'd use on the local machines themselves
void void
sanoid has this tool named syncoid
twin lagoon
o
void void
there we go
i was putting my snapshots into borg
and syncing into diff replica box
but idk have to make shit more sexy
potent fossil
u guys are way above my head
void void
why do you think i have this pfp
ashen cliff
You hit 50 years of virginity to promote to Wizard?
ashen cliff
Good old 4 chan.
void void
ashen cliff
Oh no. Cursed ideas float my mind again.
void void
such as?
ashen cliff
Each region files as it's own "micro"server.
ashen cliff
Epsilon GC on the 6TB machine.
void void
those are memes my dude
i threw that preload into production
until it suddenly stopped working and crashed jvm violently
lol
ashen cliff
Standard.
twin lagoon
send it over
ashen cliff
Better be made by a real Ε iptar.
twin lagoon
potent fossil
looked like chipotle for a moment
ashen cliff
Not enough meat to be classified under Ε iptarβ’οΈ Quality.
void void
i ate all the meat
almost
fuck i'm gonna take day off from the school if i'm not feeling less full in 1h lmao
twin lagoon
where the fuck do you add ssh keys on the ovh panel
sharp sentinel
This flag has seen better days π
void void
I want forge version of paper ;/
twin lagoon
and i don't
ashen cliff
Go to github, enter: Paper Forge <version>
Have fun.
ashen cliff
Cursed images:
https://posili.me/i/2020-09-16_10-54-37.png
twin lagoon
i don't understand why the chinese want forge + paper so badly
lmao
or multi-threaded paper
void void
@ashen cliff thx, found it
ashen cliff
China.
twin lagoon
void void
because they are not able to understand the issues of mixing forge with some other non-moddable platform
ashen cliff
I understand why they want multi-threaded stuff, but Forge... no.
void void
well theoretically you can pull off better multi-threading
but it needs a lot of work
and ur cucked when update appears
ashen cliff
They have time, a lot of people with the same goal.
It's just a monkey typewrite problem at this point.
quasi valley
going through the comments of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srZdDAJbHfc is just too wholesome
void void
not using it, don't have enough hardware for it
but i've heard good
i just have 2x samsung nvmes
doing RAID1
ah btw if you happen to reconfigure your pool often, then ZFS ain't flexible for that
you can't detach disk from raid0 for example
twin lagoon
i don't think i'll ever need to reconfigure my pool
void void
you can only replace it
and if you really really need to detach it, you need to destroy the pool
thank god that sanoid exists though
potent fossil
void void
.g openzfs linux
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