oh nvm we're not
#general
ornate spindle
I'm talking about a bug which causes fps ms spikes up to I think 1,000+ ms and thousands of lines outputted to your client log files per second, one of our players had 90GB in log files due to us having non vanilla like spawners
left swift
Patching bugs? You mean "breaking vanilla mechanics" 
worn ember
thats why i stay on 1.8 
left swift
We stan an offline 1.8.8 anarchy factions pvp server
magic river
The dupe issue was private
Even after nighter (never heard of this person) made it public and marked it as resolved their security bot marked it private again
Then he seems to have yelled at the bot for undoing his change not knowing it was a bot then deleted that comment?
Oh it was the bot yelling at him
void void
ccould someone remind me what i need to name the .png file
for the server to have a picture in the server browser
from the minecraft cleint
was it server-picture?
quasi valley
server-icon
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@quasi valley uwu
void void
thanks
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void void
@quasi valley soirry for borthering you again
but does the server icon need to be 64x64?
quasi valley
yes
void void
thanks
austere ivy
haven’t seen a .3 release in a while.
minor badge
yes
austere ivy
poi stuff?
sly fog
points of interest, I think
austere ivy
ah, thank you
quasi valley
I don't know
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hec
vernal moth
haven’t seen a .3 release in a while.
@austere ivy 1.14.3 and .4 where a thing ;)
left swift
That was atleast 5 ago
Actually u believe it's been over a year since 1.14 released
Crazy
brave lichen
Papermc 1.16.3 when?
cunning raft
1.16.3 isn't released
spigot 1.16.3 isn't released
when both of those release
paper can start updating
brave lichen
But a lot of people will ask
left swift
Dont be one of them
brave lichen
Im the first one to ask then XD
vernal moth
So you are the worst of them all
brave lichen
Hey chew 1.16.3 when?
Nah just searched someone asked August 18
vernal moth
That's not even the first
topaz mortar
Hopefully it isn't to early. 3-4 weeks with more Bugfixes would be cool.
lean kiln
1.16.4 when
brave lichen
1.17 when?
quasi valley
don't think there's gonna be a .4
quasi valley
they already have a bunch of fixes in 1.17, so someone was probably like "hey gois, don't you think we should fix dat dupe now?"
left swift
What is 1.17 bringing
warm anchor
Will that combat test ever make it to live? 
that’s a separate project right?
vernal moth
Yes
quasi valley
hopefully in 1.17 fingers crossed :(
vernal moth
Maybe we get to hear about plans for that at minecon
warm anchor
Will they increase server tick to 60 /s
cunning raft
oh when is that, this weekend or next?
waxen panther
Eternity in chat 
warm anchor
Hi 🥦
quasi valley
in a month
waxen panther
cunning raft
o i thought it was september
quasi valley
october 3rd
quasi valley
or well "Minecraft Live"
topaz mortar
What is your question?
quasi valley
was that a broken question or a broken statement
viral hornet
@twin lagoon 🥺
twin lagoon
🥺
worn ember
Kaaskop
jade leaf
anyone who plays rust?
mighty storm
Wait what there's a 1.16.3?
quasi valley
RC1
mighty storm
Still
vernal moth
does somebody know how lunar client handles auth for their chat?
mighty storm
Does it just fix piglin thing?
vernal moth
since you dont need to login
magic ice
Yeah it fixes the piglin dupe and some pathfinding bugs
limber knotBOT
@magic ice [Auto] The duplication bug with baby Piglins that is currently doing its rounds on YouTube does not, and never has, worked on Paper.
mighty storm
thanks KORE OH BEE
I guess they never published it
I didn't get a message in the following channels
magic ice
Sometimes it takes time to publish to all servers following it
mighty storm
Did they send it? I'm not on the MC server
Way too large
https://twitter.com/spigotdrama/status/1303000072594927618?s=21 kneny what the heck 😡
Twitter
zealous wedge
just follow the fabric announcements channel
mighty storm
But fabric ..
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but fabric! :D
quasi valley
zealous wedge
@minor badge @mighty storm uwu
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🥺🥺
zealous wedge
kneny I'm gonna keep on uwu-ing until u hunt me down and kill me in my sleep
quasi valley
oh you bet I will
zealous wedge
good
quasi valley
some day you will expect it the least
zealous wedge
please
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hot
quasi valley
in like 50 years, the last thing you hear is someone screaming "uwu"
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so very hot, knenychan~
vestal jasper
90 minutes of sleep I feel like passing out uwu
mighty storm
Sorry I was busy doing trans screeches at this dumb form that asks for sex and not gender
vestal jasper
Sex? Yes.
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i had to fill banking forms today and the euphoria of having your chosen name on paper is 😳
quasi valley
say "no thanks I don't want to have sex with you" to the form
mighty storm
Sex? I wish
mfw can't change name because process is too fuckin much
And that felony back in '93 ain't helping either (this is a joke i was not alive in '93)
minor badge
it took me 3 months of mailing the same form back and forth here lol
mighty storm
I mean all I have to do is get DMV approved fingerprints, then I gotta fill out a form, notarize it, go to courthouse, schedule a hearing, appear at the hearing, get approved, get a judge form saying name Is fixed, go everywhere telling everyone hey fix my name dipshit (maybe not that rude but you get the gist) problem is I have to tell my parents too and guys lemme just say genuinely fuck having parents I'd rather live on my own by myself no toxicity I really don't like my family lemme just tell y'all it's a very bad household no one respects my name or pronouns which is why hopefully when I change it either by force or by "I'm fucking sick of this" they'll finally start realizing otherwise I might have to just oh oops I'm rambling
limber knotBOT
thank god I have a gender neutral name
waxen panther
yes i agree phoenix is pretty ambiguous
limber knotBOT
;)
technically my username is female if you want to make the marvel connection I guess
vestal jasper
Someone's playing vacuum sounds on their phone in the break room
cunning raft
legal names are stupid, give everyone an id number!!!!111!
waxen panther
finally someone speaking some sense
limber knotBOT
sweats in German
cunning raft
i pick 1 because its my idea
waxen panther
i want zero
sly fog
I'll go with 717452158131503134
cunning raft
no
cedar spade
hi a6f2c3ac-1bf6-476e-afb0-edd6415e3a4a
waxen panther
angry
vestal jasper
I want the string "null"
cunning raft
ids are bigints!@green copper@
sly fog
rip
cunning raft
fuck i pinged someone'
quasi valley
I want null
vestal jasper
I claim Integer.MAX_INT - 1
wide chasm
I want -1
waxen panther
🤨
quasi valley
I also want -1, hopefully keys are accidentally left not unique
cunning raft
2^31 − 1 could work
sly fog
Or you could go with 194473148161327104
mighty storm
lmao
@quasi valley does saying "trans rights uwu" count as an uwu infraction it's kinda part of the phrase
quasi valley
sadly yes, it does
mighty storm
darn
I'll put it in a spoiler so as to not disturb
Anyway I'm stuck in a part on odyssey how tf do I do it
quasi valley
shouldn't there be some platforms after a while you jump then, then jump ontop of that?
mighty storm
Oh I needed to block the hole
rotund cargo
Jump into it lol
waxen panther
speed run strats plz
viral hornet
Sex? Yes.
@vestal jasper 🥺
wide chasm
Pretty sure the speedrun doesn't do this fight
rotund cargo
With my ex it was nice :c
wide chasm
At least any%
viral hornet
@quasi valley HI KENNY
quasi valley
@viral hornet OMG HELLO COUMM
viral hornet
rotund cargo
Mmmhhhh
mighty storm
I did it he is defeated
waxen panther
gamer in the chat
mighty storm
Are multi moons like grand stars
fierce finch
gamer
worn ember
Wow Kneny so smart
worn ember
Can I watch you?
quasi valley
it's a private network
vestal jasper
@viral hornet do my shift for me. You get my pay for today for all I care.
sly fog
Smart TVs aren't watched, they do the watching
worn ember
$adge
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duke knenwald of têlevísion
cedar spade
maybe idk
I need to sit down and work on EssX again at some point
I tend to end up working on it in bursts
random vault
btw how do you build a server-computer dedicated to hosting minecraft
limber knotBOT
same as you would build a normal PC, just without a beefy video card
olive marlin
Get a decent CPU with high single-core IPC focus, but also good to have at least 4 cores.
And fast NVME SSD.
random vault
hmm would you run windows on it? Or is there a way to just straight up only be the server that you can leave on for months
peak dirge
as a general policy you don't run insecure bloated OSes
so install a server-oriented Linux distro
random vault
hmm any specific recommendation for Linux?
peak dirge
Debian or Ubuntu Server LTS are good choices
random vault
ah thanks, imma go watch 30 youtube vids on how linux works now
brazen tide
Is there any Beer plugins in Minecraft? Just to drink one potion and get some effects from it. It will be addition to our survival bar type of thing.
random vault
You could always make your own with mythic mobs xD
peak dirge
limber knotBOT
Lefu: check out Brewery, might be more than you want but it's pretty cool
mighty storm
Good ol nemract whiskey
green turret
Survival bar type of thing. Is this like a role playing server that takes place exclusively in a bar?
I played WoW on an RP server once. It was amazing. There was a guild that occupied this empty bar in Stormwind and they would sell drinks and they had bouncers and stuff.
Much more friendly community than the PvP servers anyway.
limber knotBOT
on my server we just use potions with the nausa effect for beer xD
random vault
that is what i was thinking
though my solution to anything these days is to just use mythic mobs
mighty storm
Wow! RP!
Rp stands for risky practices
Sorry Bucko!! If your plugin isn't open source then (I Apologize) I ain't using your plugin!
I'm not like "pro open source" or whatever I just don't like being illegally given plugins smh
green turret
Yes you are shut up
zealous wedge
fuck proprietary software
mighty storm
But Memerator isn't open source 😭
mighty storm
wdym
mighty storm
I'd spend a considerable amount of time resetting password
I usually just toss it in the file instead of the encrypted credentials file
Like a big brain of course
Technically Brian contributed too
So it's me and him who'd make that decision
Mod panel and API too
Everything else is already open source
mighty storm
Y'all are getting paid???
green turret
I pay myself every time I write a line of code. I'm very well paid.
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pay yourself with what though?
green turret
I really hate "code" as a verb.
I pay myself in self high fives, that one coin I have on my desk, cheerful log statements, etc.
mighty storm
the only thing that motivates me is my brain telling me it's not good enough
green turret
I also sometimes punish myself by throwing condescending exceptions.
"This wasn't supposed to happen, but you failed, didn't you? You failed and now we're here, at the worst place in the code where everything comes to a grinding halt of disappointment. You suck." stuff like that
tired heath
People are weird
wide chasm
In my uni assignment I had to make a fake system to detect speeding cars based on the readings of two sets of cameras. As an additional check I added an error if the car passed the second camera, but not the first telling them to buy better cameras.
green turret
Sometimes
wide chasm
Also Scala is weird
green turret
Hahahah
mighty storm
Anyone know Perl?
quasi valley
scala isn't weird, scala is scary
wide chasm
Scala is like Python, they both don't have a ++ operator.
tired heath
I know perl but last usage 20 years ago in about
green turret
Scala is awesome. You can tell how many people worked on a code base by taking the number of different code styles and subtracting 1.
limber knotBOT
some of my server setup runs in perl xD
mighty storm
I need to convert a perl irc bot to java (discord bot)
mighty storm
Then just fix all the IDE errors
Brilliant
I do that with Ruby to java and it works very well
wide chasm
Hit Alt+Enter continuously in your IDE
green turret
And then you just fix all errors. Yes.
mighty storm
Thing is I know Ruby and java but I don't know Perl so idk how to change
wide chasm
For my job doing C# I write Java and then apply auto-fixes, works great.
mighty storm
C# and Java are almost identical
Only difference is C# as CURLY BOIS ON THEIR OWN LINE
WHY
they don't deserve their own line
green turret
According to Kevlin Henney it's actually objectively better for readability :O
golden gust
Because they follow the same general styling rules as done in C
which is just totally bastardized and fuck me I want my vspace back
quasi valley
objectively 
green turret
Or glanceability I guess
Sure, it creates a much more consistent grouping of the various blocks of code and parts of a class, method, etc.
I mean, don't tell me you think "else if" branches or "catch" clauses are pretty in K&R.
wide chasm
I think they're pretty
green turret
It's lumpy
wide chasm
The advantage is that I can see more actual code on my screen at once, whereas with Allman a lot of lines are wasted on { and }.
But Allman has other advantages.
green turret
Don't get me wrong, I don't particularly like Allman, but the whitespace does provide some neat structure. I still think it's way too wasteful, space wise.
green turret
It's not :(
golden gust
That's my entire thing, the extra readability it's supposed to offer at least for me is totally negated by all the extra space it uses on the screen
mighty storm
oh scroll down to the info command, it's much worse
golden gust
Not to mention, this isn't the 80s
mighty storm
lovely
golden gust
our screens are no longer so small that we have to agree on stuff like 80 col limits because "that's as big as my screen allows?!"
As well as IDEs being able to easily hint at stuff like that
rainbow brackets are fucking awesome
cedar spade
end
wide chasm
The structure is nice, because you can do Allman + tabs to get something like this:
public void someMethod(int arg1, int arg2, /*many more args*/
int argN)
{
//the actual code
vs.
public void someMethod(int arg1, int arg2, /*many more args*/
int argN) {
//the actual code
Which reads as if the code starts on the line with the extra arguments
golden gust
I try to keep to around 80 where viable, but, not gonna start transforming stuff into block ladders to avoid it
wide chasm
You can do spaces to align your arguments, but tabs are nice because everyone can set their own indentation locally.
golden gust
That's part of the issue, however
green turret
I don't mix vertical and horizontal lists
golden gust
using tabs to align stuff can cause issues in some places
wide chasm
Only align with the spaces tabs give you, never try to align at some arbitrary point on a line.
(Aligning parameters by spaces is super annoying anyway cause the moment you change the method declaration, you can start smashin that spacebar again.)
green turret
public void method(
int arg1,
int arg2,
...
int argN
) {
// go go
}
Everyone hates it, then they get used to it and realize how much better it is.
golden gust
I mean, it's totally fucking ass to have methods like that
But, somehow it just happens to be unavoidable
wide chasm
For methods with a lot of arguments, sure, for shorter ones, please redirect me to the bathroom.
zealous wedge
oh hey it's kotlin style
mighty storm
kotlin :puke:
green turret
Yep, but it goes for any list. If you split your lists both vertically and horizontally you have a total mess that no one likes.
Same with method arguments.
wide chasm
That's where you pray that you never have so many arguments, or you create a completely useless pojo to keep multiple arguments in the same spot.
green turret
Like, I have a fair amount of code at work that takes two timestamps, a time zone, a resolution, and a data parameter. It's never pretty, but vertical list makes it readable.
Also if you have stuff like Jersey annotations on parameters, it's just so much easier to read if you prop them up above instead of having these fat lines of a thousand characters.
Vertical lists, try them! They'll change your life!
wide chasm
I mean, it doesn't look bad, but you waste a lot of vertical space on just a method signature.
Which for some methods might be better than just the horizontal ones, but seeing how 99% of your methods normally wouldn't need to wrap around, ehh
waxen panther
https://github.com/Chewbotcca/Discord-Legacy/blob/70a52ad21561dd0403e7520ac68499424ef4827c/chewbot.rb#L74-L132
@mighty storm
chew please
eradicate this repo from the internet
waxen panther
i am not sure achieving is enough
waxen panther
cAT
i will fight you
i had it spelt right and discord complained so i changed it
golden gust
discords spell check is more ass than proxi
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we should force chew to learn java and start fixing the issues
wide chasm
Java is really easy, I personally used this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAlSjtxy5ak
rose lion
Missing the Indian accent
mighty storm
I know java, I don't know paper
id have to spend a reasonable amount of timing knowing what's what and how everything connects before i can even think about making changes :p
minor badge
nor do i, but that aint stopping me 😳
mighty storm
smh
yeah no i have no clue what im doing lol
plus everything is obfuscated, once demon has his thing to fix that itll be much easier (i think thats what hes doing right?)
minor badge
obfuscation really aint that bad
mighty storm
how tf am i gonna know what this.f does
quasi valley
that's the biggest lie I've heard today
golden gust
Read the code, compare mappings, etc, etc
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spigot builddata + mojang mappings file
golden gust
obfuscation slows you down but it's not 100% impossible
quasi valley
what the hell is that kinda scrub approach
golden gust
It can be a total ass to work with at times, but 🤷♂️
quasi valley
at least properly build moj mapped sources 
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i should really consider trying to make an ij plugin to show it inline
mighty storm
yes pls lol
golden gust
I actually kept debating on looking into that
mighty storm
like how rubymine handles i18n
golden gust
what's rubymine?
mighty storm
intellij for ruby
golden gust
What's a ruby?
mighty storm
some red gem idk
vestal jasper
@minor badge owo
mighty storm
omg why does everyone keep uwuing
quasi valley
YEAH RIGHT?
golden gust
Paper 2.0
mighty storm
what is paper two point oh
mighty storm
not as bad but
zealous wedge
:3 uwu
mighty storm
i would never uwu, im a changed girl
vestal jasper
@mighty storm uwu
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im pensive because my uwu friend left that life behind...
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Ungültiger Textkanal
mighty storm
btw this is what I mean
top is how it's displayed, bottom is how it's actually written in the code
minor badge
id like more of a git toolbox blame kinda thing
golden gust
Issue there is all the mental context switching you'd need to, as well as presenting it in a readable manner
It's not much use if you make editing the actual obfuscated code total ass
minor badge
yeah thats why id like a simple little piece of text after it like gittoolbox does with its blame
zealous wedge
dropbox
waxen panther
uwu
zealous wedge
uwu
void void
mighty storm
if you had a thing like
public class Bruh {
static final String nice;
}```
is nice private or publicwasn't package the default one or something? i forget
It's locked to prevent trolls from being trolls
quasi valley
you're annoying though
golden gust
We don't need to hear you speak
People can see your chat on the discord in general
When you act annoying in chat, people have very little interest pulling you over into the voice channel
We don't care
heady spear
I think we should give him a chance
mighty storm
heady spear
i love u proxi
ur so hot
fartstopp
igloooordning
those are Swedish words, learn them
wide chasm
City, why does your language put four o's in a row?
unkempt drift
yeah, must not be a "real" language
zealous wedge
words r sexy tho
lean kiln
it is a saying but i thought guns were illegal there xD
heady spear
I make fun of americans all the time because they're all truck fuckers
heady spear
ur feelings aren't important robo
unique shell
limber knotBOT
like
heady spear
I know why I hate you
robo actually loves me
I don't have feelings so they can't possibly be hurt
limber knotBOT
omg harassment
golden gust
wat is even
limber knotBOT
omg a cat
heady spear
Anyway another Swedish word that's important to learn is försvinn
also "lämna"
o and "du är extremt jobbig =))"
green turret
Didn't you get banned yesterday?
heady spear
don't promote magma's garbage here
quasi valley
kicked only
heady spear
not allowed
green turret
Ahh shame
mighty storm
geez
green turret
Oh hey there's a voice party
mighty storm
join us mule!
green turret
Omw
heady spear
are you reading your own messages
mighty storm
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ill join vc in a bit, needa do dishes and stuff
limber knotBOT
wow real life stuff
mighty storm
adulting, yuck
worn ember
we dont do that here
limber knotBOT
adulting, u mean u were spoiled child who had no chores?
limber knotBOT
tho tbh I've been to some friend's houses in college and his roommates rarely did chores lol
like as if they had no idea how to do basic stuff.
worn ember
no
mighty storm
none of us are in the same country
worn ember
i'd lose my shit if i had to live with my college mates lmao, they'd literally not clean anything until theres no clean plates left, and even then they'd probably rather eat on the table
limber knotBOT
chew is that real
mighty storm
yall dumb, just put sir anne wrap over the plate, then just throw it away when you're done. plate stays clean!
worn ember
its the same at home tbh, no one wants to clean up, and then eventually someone has to and its like half an hour work what could take 2 minutes if everyone cleaned up their own shit
wide chasm
I know some people who used to buy stacks of those plastic plates and used those all the time and threw them away after they used them.
Never had to do the dishes.
mighty storm
i forgot how to spell it
limber knotBOT
I've considered that once
mighty storm
just pronounce it irl
limber knotBOT
I haven't done a cost analysis tho
mighty storm
and youll know
unkempt drift
r/boneappletea
mighty storm
ew reddit
limber knotBOT
but with dishwashers being terrible year after year it prolly is more sanitary
unkempt drift
saran wrap
mighty storm
yeah that
wide chasm
Alright, not a fan of Reddit, but that would be perfect for that sub, lol
worn ember
stef prefers tumblr
mighty storm
smh only social media I use is irc
wide chasm
Yuck tumblr
humble falcon
i use https more smh my head
worn ember
http doesnt exist for my domain
mighty storm
f
worn ember
if you use http it'll 404, probably fucked up the nginx config at some point
https works fine tho
¯_(ツ)_/¯
humble falcon
just claim it's a security feature lol
limber knotBOT
just block port 80, feel more secure
worn ember
limber knotBOT
no
drowsy urchin
If they’re going to release 1.16.3 to fix 2 issues and not the other serious issues I’m going to be disappointed.
humble falcon
how are you guys doing bots that are somehow not in the discord
humble falcon
lol
humble falcon
can you just channel IRC to discord like that
humble falcon
it says bot on your name i meant the bot forwarding the messages from discord to irc obviously lol
f
quasi valley
they 404'd when driving to your house
drowsy urchin
They attempted 😂
potent fossil
fallen oracle
Okay but Peach Nectarine ain't too bad.
olive marlin
WTF? So my computer froze - could log in, but the screen wasnt changing, was fucked up lockscreen.
So I reloaded DE from TTY, and it did nothing. Wanted to restart lightdm, but it decided it won't accept my password and locked me out. And then it decided to complelety accept keystrokes, even ignored SysRq REISUB...
worn ember
well at least they're sure you're home at 2:16am
humble falcon
Me: Wants to download like 100 MB
My internet:
Like it took me a few seconds to send that, which would be fine if the image wasn't just 20 KB
That's why i'm not speaking in vc cuz i can't with 180 BYTES per second
worn ember
sucks to suck i suppose
humble falcon
yes :p
golden gust
you did enable magic sysrq rite? practically every distro I've seen disables that by default which is bleh
vestal jasper
Tbf one of them is a dupe fix
Makes sense to be a priority and enough to bump patch number
golden gust
I mean, yea, but, also, woulda been nice if they fixed something like the world upgrades causing data loss...
limber knotBOT
or, you know, not put the exact dupe description in the fix
hazy veldt
limber knotBOT
that's still not how you handle security issues though
dapper spindle
hey guys a technical question here is there a difference if i buy a g-sync compatible monitor or a g sync monitor
limber knotBOT
not really
dapper spindle
not really or not?
limber knotBOT
well they are different things
dapper spindle
How come
limber knotBOT
one has free-sync with verified g-sync compatibility, the other one has g-sync
both work
limber knotBOT
lol no
limber knotBOT
g-sync is mostly a waste of money ¯_(ツ)_/¯ iirc. you only see benefits from it at very high refresh rates
dapper spindle
im getting tired of screen tearing on lower fps on a free sync monitor
limber knotBOT
and tbh. so is official g-sync compatibility
there are cheaper free-sync monitors which are not officially deemed compatible by nvidia which still work without issues
(reddit probably has a list of that somewhere)
dapper spindle
i mean my friend has a g sync monitor and when i compared to mine it was a big difference
limber knotBOT
I mean, are you using free-sync with a compatible video card?
limber knotBOT
also why would you play on lower fps to begin with? anything below 120fps is unplayable anyways
runs
dapper spindle
yy
limber knotBOT
"just try it" is easy to say for a non f2p title xD
dapper spindle
yes,but still
dapper spindle
i have been playing sea of thieves since the release
limber knotBOT
Porkovski: please use the appropriate help channels if you need help, not the social/offtopic ones
hallow swallow
ok but do you know
dapper spindle
LMAO
limber knotBOT
I have no idea what you are talking about
worn ember
I don't even notice the difference with 60 and 144
limber knotBOT
yeah, I can easily notice the difference betwen 60 and 120 fps
60 to 75 is difficult though lol
I still don't know which frequency some of my monitors are running on. the tools claim different stuff xD
queen moat
jovial dew
Spreading the good news! https://youtu.be/ea6py9q46QU
limber knotBOT
wow
golden gust
That's what I thought the first time I saw that, like... months ago...
limber knotBOT
that video is from today, cat
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cat's had the inside scoop for a long time...
golden gust
or, wait, was it the other one that was found
limber knotBOT
they found the original background image
(main menu panorama)
(phoenix616) BIG NEWS! We have found the SEED of Minecraft's title-screen... : Minecraft - 1,287 comments, 56,125 points - Tomlacko, 1mo ago
and people complain about bitcoin wasting energy when they use boinc for finding a minecraft seed instead of aliens or medicaments xD
limber knotBOT
yes, that's the youtube link which was posted
worn ember
@golden gust lmao big brain, they found it like yesterday or something
golden gust
Yea, it was the other one they they found, I forgot
limber knotBOT
I love how SponsorBlock skips the server host sponder in that video 😆
new server icon: https://is.papr.best/fVRQqPBm.png xD
worn ember
EKSDEEEE
potent fossil
fucking kidding me rn, cloudflare's auth not working and then they hit me with a 429
???? can anyone log into fucking CF?
holy fuck
zenith ruin
well
potent fossil
?
zenith ruin
server hard to run
potent fossil
ok, that doesn't give you a permission slip to spam
zenith ruin
i realize that
potent fossil
ok
worn ember
CF is working fine for me simp
potent warren
@worn ember no u
potent warren
lmao big brain, they found it like yesterday or something
they found it at least two days ago
worn ember
okay
potent warren
¯_(ツ)_/¯
void void
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
still olive
dense kindle
yay
ancient bolt
lol we keep hitting and then losing level 2
mighty storm
boosting actually helps us discord haters
finally able to upload a reasonable amount
dense kindle
level 2 requires too many boosts that's why
ancient bolt
We will hard-break off from spigot once we reach level 3
worn ember
👀
mossy vessel
Just buy them boosts to speed it up
mighty storm
is that canon demon
zealous wedge
no, that's fanfic demon
mighty storm
wha
ancient bolt
we have to know we have the community's support for a move like that
what better way of knowing than through discord boosts
zealous wedge
why would you boost paper discord when you could just donate directly to devs lol
mighty storm
implying people would actually spend their money on something where they get nothing in return
lean kiln
spigot has more because you have to boost to get outside server emoji
zealous wedge
they also get nothing in return for boosting :p
unkempt drift
that EPIC nitro role 😆
zealous wedge
mighty storm
but if u realllly want to waste your money on this platform
boost us (or me idc) <3
zealous wedge
hm reminds me
ugh i updated my gradle checkout and now it's 7 minutes into reimporting into intellij
mighty storm
oops
ancient bolt
I personally don't like the idea of GH sponsors or w/e because that leaves out so many of paper's contributors
you can donate directly to people if you wish
mighty storm
In the .github FUNDING.yml you can specify multiple people to sponsor given they're signed up
ancient bolt
I don't like the idea of a discord role (or anything really) for donations because then it becomes a purchase
zealous wedge
yeah, but at least it goes to somebody, unlike nitro
mighty storm
correct and selling roles is against tos
zealous wedge
and a role that does the same sort of thing as nitro booster isn't something that'd be any worse
unkempt drift
wdym selling roles? people def have roles for different levels of funding
ancient bolt
we'd have to come up with specific requirements to determine exactly who gets to be on those funding lists
mighty storm
well, you can't sell discord's core features to people
but it's a grey area since patreon has it and whatnot
ancient bolt
we don't give any special benefits to discord boosters
unkempt drift
oh, ok well I mean if its just a colored name...
mighty storm
speaking of which can Nitro Booster be renamed to Server Booster? Byd efault it's called that now
zealous wedge
yeah, it'd be tricky, but imo it'd help the project have longer-term financial stability
mighty storm
only benefit server boosters get is able to join typing-sounds
ancient bolt
we can rename the role to whatever we like
zealous wedge
even if it just went into a pot for things like server costs/whatever
unkempt drift
ugh... should unlock that channel
ancient bolt
the project doesn't have a financial issue right now...really just server costs which aren't that much
golden gust
There is no real reason to unlock it
zealous wedge
maybe assign bug bounties? i dunno
golden gust
I keep saying that the waiting room should be kept as basically general bar when you gotta escape because trolls, etc
mighty storm
well now that's us paying them
unkempt drift
should turn off voice activiation... then no more typing sounds 😆
mighty storm
really it's just proxi
golden gust
Issue with getting into dealing with cash is that it changes the dynamic of the project
zealous wedge
yeah :/
unkempt drift
pretty sure I heard some of yours in there chew
hallow swallow
Anyone knows how to disable join messages from particular server joining?
unkempt drift
make paper pay to win. different levels of sponsorship unlock better performant servers
golden gust
what you're asking is
- in the wrong channel
- Kinda makes no sense
zealous wedge
eww
hallow swallow
why not
ancient bolt
look at spigot
golden gust
if youre using a proxy, use aproxy plugin for join messages
lament patio
unlock better performant servers
I've seen that somewhere ...
ancient bolt
md gets thousands of $$ in donations and it's pretty much a project entirely defined by donations at this point
mighty storm
👀
ancient bolt
it's fucking absurd
zealous wedge
ah yes "donations"
ancient bolt
we don't want to become that, or even appear to look like that
potent warren
We will hard-break off from spigot
just wondering, how is this gonna be able to be pulled off? 🤔
unkempt drift
I had to do it tho.. it bothered me so much that my name was x1machine_maker1x... not even sure why it was that to begin with
zealous wedge
it's pretty easy to do technically
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does spigot get money like that really?
zealous wedge
just stop updating from upstream
mighty storm
md simps
potent warren
But Paper is built on top of Spigot, which is built on top of CraftBukkit 🤔
You're still technically depending on Spigot, right?
unkempt drift
for the time being
ancient bolt
if you look at spigot forums and just look at everyone who has roles for donations $500+
golden gust
you can literally rip out the API and rewrite the impl entirely from scratch
unkempt drift
👀 Mini
ancient bolt
so many people donate so much money to spigot, it's absurd
golden gust
Go take a look at stuff like glowstone, they forked our API
potent warren
you can literally rip out the API and rewrite the impl entirely from scratch
wouldn't that take more time? lmao
potent fossil
has a role for $100+
potent warren
Glowstone is stuck on an older version
ancient bolt
we've discussed at length how we could break off from spigot
golden gust
Yes, but they're still using the API
potent warren
we've discussed at length how we could break off from spigot
was this in a public chat? sounds like an interesting read
ancient bolt
most of it
zealous wedge
it's been discussed in here a bunch
golden gust
Yes, NMS plugins won't work, BUT, it's doable; and we could even do stuff to keep those plugins running
ancient bolt
but as @zealous wedge stated the technical aspect of it is by far the easiest
the political part of the whole thing is the difficult part
potent warren
Yes, NMS plugins won't work, BUT, it's doable; and we could even do stuff to keep those plugins running
oh, so you're talking about reimplementing the entire server software?!
zealous wedge
paper would just compile to mojmap
potent warren
oh
potent fossil
The Paper Revolution...run! The Spigots are coming...
/s
zealous wedge
at the very least, develop in mojmap
mighty storm
ttf is this
unkempt drift
ugh, I get those all the time from discord
I try to always click dont show it again...
potent warren
Are mojang names even doable or is that still in a gray legal area?
unkempt drift
but it seems to show it again
mighty storm
imean mappings have two sides
unkempt drift
I think they are looking into changing the license on the mappings
mighty storm
they did
unkempt drift
they did, or they did talk about it
potent warren
The only downside is there's no parameter information
mighty storm
did
zealous wedge
meh params are not super necessary
wide chasm
They changed it, but it's still a bit bleh imo
mighty storm
yeah it was a few weeks ago
ancient bolt
as previously stated we can easily use param names from mcp and yarn
zealous wedge
and literally anything is a huge improvement over what spigot currently does
mighty storm
before mappings were "read only if u use these u will be nuked" now it's "You can use it to develop but if u release them ull get nuked"
ancient bolt
and spigot has 0 param names so that really is a meaningless downside for us
potent warren
Wouldn't it be easier to just make something that remaps Spigot names back to Mojang names?
zealous wedge
that exists
potent warren
owo
zealous wedge
it's a thing demon has
potent warren
:o
ancient bolt
that's what we're building yes
and "easier" is a funny word
it's a ridiculously complex project lmao
zealous wedge
ok it seems like the thing that takes the longest to build in gradle is the userguide?
potent warren
This might be a stupid guess, but is the tool in question https://github.com/DemonWav/paperweight ?
potent warren
If you don't mind me asking, why's there stuff about MCP?
mighty storm
ancient bolt
why wouldn't there be
zealous wedge
demon, in gradle itself -- the docs subproject
golden gust
We don't have a way to default permissions for different worlds sanely
Not perms, configs
bleh
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mighty storm
gonna use aikar's flags for intellij
potent warren
lmao
ancient bolt
lmao @zealous wedge I missed this message https://discordapp.com/channels/507304429255393322/608088354042544139/752675334750470176
I was trying to be nice, but it was getting annoying that he was responding so matter-of-factly to me as if I didn't know what I was talking about
zealous wedge
oh don't worry about being nice, just shut things down if people are getting annoying
you'll never get anywhere otherwise
ancient bolt
but I like being nice 😦
zealous wedge
like 80% of my block list is annoying people in fabric discord
if you want to get actual things done, modmuss and player are both in europe, modmuss is more active in the tooling, and is around mostly outside of uk business hours
ancient bolt
I find the fabric discord way too confusing. No role colors makes the chat way too homogeneous and hard to read and there's way too many channels that it overwhelms me lol
warm anchor
Lol
worn pasture
mood
ashen nacelle
...
ancient bolt
90% of the reason we have so many roles in this server is to make the chat easier to read, it's tru
zealous wedge
you aren't a white name :p
waxen panther
flashbang 
zealous wedge
in the fabric offshoot that i actually spend time in everyone has name colours lol
roles are MC dye colours
(and pronouns, but pronoun roles don't have colour)
worn pasture
maybe i'll get nitro again just to boost this server so i can get a colour again
ancient bolt
I think for now I'll look into creating a yarn-patches repo, maybe personally at first then possibly transfer it to paper
ashen nacelle
whitename on my end
worn pasture
i think that's the joke
zealous wedge
the other thing is there are several different decompilers in use -- fabricflower as main, cfr is supported experimentally in loom, plus there's https://github.com/natanfudge/forgedflower
ancient bolt
there's a lot of patches you need to get mc compiling but also they are basically all just missing generic casts and you can fix the whole codebase in just a couple of hours
waxen panther
the boost colour in this server has been actively made ugly
this is the only server that i'd rather have white than the boost role colour
ancient bolt
I hope fabric flower is like
decent
the patches would only target one decompiler probably
zealous wedge
it's ok, a bit quirky in places
ancient bolt
how does it compare to forgeflower?
zealous wedge
uh it's not as good -- forgedflower is a fork of forgeflower that has the necessary patches to work in loom
https://github.com/natanfudge/forgedflowerloom is the gradle plugin part
worn ember
whatcha up to demon 👀
zealous wedge
should be relatively simple to try all three decompilers with loom 0.5, use the same setup to decompile + recompile MC src
compare the # of compile errors
ancient bolt
hmm
I mean - I'm a big fan of using forgedflower, forgeflower definitely has proven results
zealous wedge
yeah, i've been playing with forgedflower, not personally had any issues with it, but then haven't spent time comparing any of them
would be interesting to do
void void
are ring0 cheats detected by VAC?
worn ember
potent warren
uhhh, that's a weird question lmao
worn ember
oddly specific
potent warren
Ring 0 is the kernel level
magic river
afaik VAC doesn't do a ton of modification checks, it's more heuristics
Not that it has no modification checks, those are simple ways to 100% verify cheating
So even if it can't detect it directly if you're playing at a superhuman level odds are it'll catch you eventually and programming a bot to play like a pro human without using superhuman shortcuts is... hard
spiral zinc
magic river
userspace
still cape
anyone else here use wordpress
my confirmation email is not arriving (to a gsuite email account)
worn ember
check spam i suppose
still cape
not in spam... that took a while to figure out either since spam folder wasn't showing up (even under "more") so i learned in:spam search brings up spam emails, but nothing, it's a brand new account so it's not like i'm missing it
still cape
there is also the "all mail" button to click on, total of four 😦 i posted for help in wordpress and google communities, no help yet, hopefully someone will respond with a solution... i tried a few other troubleshooting recommendations i found in my research but nothing's worked
you know what i think that happened to me too once i had to make a new account
and jimmyjohns lol
(sandwich place that delivers)
spiral sparrow
@mighty storm can i come in
mighty storm
hm?
mighty storm
we're both here already
still cape
where y'all going
spiral sparrow
im in the waiting room @mighty storm
can i come into the other one
with kashike
worn ember
oh boi
covert hinge
Link paper 1.16?
spiral sparrow
please? :/
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://papermc.io/ -- PaperMC – The High Performance Fork: "Turn your server up to 11. Paper is the next generation of Minecraft server, compatible with Spigot plugins and offering uncompromising performance."
mighty storm
.download
limber knotBOT
covert hinge
Thanks
worn ember
thats not very paper 2.0 to leave the guy hanging smh
spiral sparrow
ok i guess not
potent fossil
kashike, what was his last message?
novel horizon
Does anyone have a tip for a nice, light plugin for some chat managements like anti-swear/antispam? 🤔 Is ChatManager good when configured properly? I've seen it, but it has so much things in it, but other plugins look like.. meh
hollow plaza
I mean there's ChatControl but apparently it's bad
potent fossil
ChatControl itself is probably fine but the creator is less than reputable.
When (if) you buy it, you will start receiving emails you can't unsubscribe from advertising his products.
So, don't recommend. 0/10
potent fossil
And illegal
potent fossil
dont know
hollow plaza
The free version seemed to work fine
Eventually I realized EssentialsX chat is all I needed though so I switched to it
potent fossil
Yeah, honestly, the common path is that you look far and wide for automated moderation solutions and then finally reach the conclusion that real human moderators are the ultimate solution...
So, whether you want to take my advice that is the conclusion you will eventually reach and stop now or follow the path and realize it yourself...the answer will be the same :)
There will always be someone to bypass your filters
warm anchor
yup yup
warm anchor
its kinda like those full blown anti cheat
golden gust
scunthorpe problem, unless you need the strictness of it and hate yourself enough to play cat and mouse...
warm anchor
that try their best to stop all cheats
potent fossil
scunthorpe problem, unless you need the strictness of it and hate yourself enough to play cat and mouse...
also known as The Clbuttic Mistake
warm anchor
but the best way is just let them do it coz it will be easily spotted in a sense 
golden gust
ur a clbuttic mistake
potent fossil
I agree
man this IBP section is really not chilling out
immediately combining u sub with ibp
third problem is double ibp
lmao
https://owo.whats-th.is/78taT6x.png
https://owo.whats-th.is/7Wz5iAV.png
does this make anyone uncomfortable uwu @mighty storm @zealous wedge
zealous wedge
it makes me happy :3
potent fossil
uwu :3
zealous wedge
uwu
zealous wedge
smh simple sharing secrets
cosmic raft
uwu
zealous wedge
kashike :3
cosmic raft
hi
zealous wedge
why, in 2020, are people still making java libraries with split package issues
novel horizon
Well, of course people are.. well, most of the time, better, but you can't have all the time people on server to mute/kick/ban people, so a small thing like that is nice
cosmic raft
@zealous wedge what now
cosmic raft
lol
novel horizon
Hmm, I'd like to show people the time remaining on VIP, some command and it would send a msg with placeholder time remaining, but.. The best solution seems like a make small plugin to do that 🤔 Don't wanna whole plugin for some command.. I wish commands.yml could be more complex 😄
potent fossil
commands.yml is only an aliasing system, nothing more; making it more complex would be cancer.
novel horizon
Yeah, kinda
potent fossil
Just get plugin that lets you make commands, like MyCommand, and pray it has PlaceholderAPI support
novel horizon
lol, pray, not sure, I'll probably need to download something though :/
novel horizon
Yeah, I see, ty, I'll just probably use that
It even says it can properly register command, so I hope it will work fine. I like the thing that chat can help you with commands ^^
Hmm, it can't.. Or the default ones aren't - well, I'll use both alias and then MyCmd
yeah exactly
we were talking about papis ❤️
sly fog
They even had a easter egg command called "/daddy"
potent fossil
I think they added that back
But on that offchance that was a real question:
Papa -> Dad
Papi -> Daddy
That's the exclusive use of that
There is another way to make it not sexual lol
Papi => sexual daddy
Papacito => daddy, like...how a child might refer to their dad
¯_(ツ)_/¯
potent fossil
meh
sly fog
That word reminds me of despacito 😅
novel horizon
You gotta listen to it now
potent fossil
do yall even know what despacito means
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@potent fossil hey xxx
potent fossil
hey bbgirl
sly fog
Please just enlighten us anyway
potent fossil
its what he said
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😳